>Entire family is 100-105 IQ >I got myself tested, ended

you=outlier

You probably took one of those shitty internet tests where everyone scores 30 points above their real IQ.

>>133836471
this

>>133836352
You're probably a bastard. Go look for your real daddy Bastardo

>>133836471
I did the mensa one while i was abroad a couple of months ago. So i think it's fairly accurate.

I think i "guessed" some answer by pure luck so maybe the score should be a bit lower

>>133836352

IQ is a meaningless and somewhat arbitrary, number peasant. Nothing more

>>133836652
I am an identical copy of my dad. I am sure my parents are my biological ones.

You have hit the genetic lottery in this Trait anon. Is there any others in your family tree with 130+ IQ

>>133836352
> How is that possible /pol/?
> Poltard
> high iq
it's impossible

IQ doesn't mean jack fucking shit if you don't put it to use.

>>133836352
>(((intelligence quotient)))

Fuck off faggot

>>133837211
Not that i know of, maybe some distant relative?

I am the first of my family that even gets a university degree

muh iq points

>>133837952
i love having a british flag

>>133837376
This.

Also you might find that your nonno was intelligent and your dad was the pleb son.

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>>133836352

Let me tell you something about pain:

>family of 5
>am the oldest child, have younger sister & youngest brother
>dad is general practice doc
>mom is expert in antique art
>sister is studying to become engineer. skipped two classes in highschool because she is so talented
>younger brother is going to an expensive private middle school and doing well
>Everyone is between 115 - 129 IQ
>I am 89

[spoiler]I once found the results of a paternity test in my dads study some years back. I am such a disappointment to him that he actually thought my mother cheated on him when she became pregnant with me.

>>133836352
>I DID A TEST ON THE INTERWEBS GUISE AND IT SAID I IS SMARTS

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>>133839670
dayum mang, that's... that's unfortunate as fuck.

>>133836352
Same except none of it matters because I was also diagnosed with ADD, cant afford the medication, and I feel myself get more stupid every day.

>>133836352
Flynn effect
Education
Shit internet test

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>>133836352
sry lad
I shagged ur mum

>>133836471
>serious 3 hours long IQ test
111
>20 min online IQ test
143


You couldn't be more right. Internet IQ tests really are a bad way to measure the IQ

>>133839670

Rape your sister anon, its the only way you can save your shit genes. 80% of genes comes from the mother anyway, also make sure your kids marries to smarter kids.

it means you're a fool for thinking that IQ tests mean anything at all

>>133836471
yeah those filthy verified 3 hour mensa test. get real brainlet.

>>133836352

Your intelligence always comes from one of your mother's parents. You just need a intelligent grandfather or grandmother and it's done.

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>>133840119

low IQ brainlet identified

>>133836352
It's called a normal distribution
Even a couple both having IQ of 150 will have children that revert to the mean (i.e. not much more than 100)
Hereditary traits probably only account for 10 or so IQ points, the rest is random

>>133837389

found another brainlet

>>133840119
IQ tests are of extreme significance
if you look at any successful physicist or mathematician their first page of CV is dedicated solely to the various IQ tests they took
it's a well guarded secret that top universities like Harvard/MIT hire PhD students solely based on IQ

>>133836741

>brainlet

>>133840275
I'm an engineering grad student with various distinctions that put me at the top of my school, so I'm probably not an idiot.

>>133840449
>engineering
idiot confirmed lol

>>133836352
They took real tests while you took the internet test?

>my 4 siblings are all successful, all earning over 30 grand a year
>im neet
How is that possible?

>>133840373

wrong

IQ is mostly genetics and the strongest correlation is with the mother, some genes were found in the X chrom and they were shown to have a meaningful correlation with IQ.

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>>133836352
minus and minus gives plus

>>133840449

ok, I'll belive you then, but:

>people involved in the psychology field agree that IQ is meaningful and that it's inheritable.

the opposite was promoted by literal marxists, in the actual field the meaningfulness of IQ is pretty much accepted. IQ can predict a bunch of things like academic success and future income.

>>133836352
>(((IQ tests)))
take any IQ test and solve it picking random answers as fast as you can. then substract the result from your 135.

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>>133836352
>I got myself tested

>>133839733
>>133840080
>>133840538
>>133839949

As i said, i went abroad, I did the 3 hour long mensa one. I even said it at another post, but hey nevermind reading all the thread right?

>>133840538
quite the contrary, they took the internet one (the test.mensa.no) and they came up with around 110 or less , i did the real one

>>133840589
>>133840423
>>133840373
>>133839949

Finally, thanks for the answers


>>133840070
OW FUCK BILL WHY

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>>133840560
Being successful is earning over 30K a year??? That below poverty level around here. You couldn't even rent a shitty apartment and fees yourself for that much, and I don't even live in an expensive part of the country.

IQ doesn't mean anything

t. 123 iq

>>133840589
wrong
I didn't say IQ is not genetics
I said it's mostly not hereditary, that's an important difference
Of course there's statistically significant correlation but at most about 10 points or so, the rest is random

>>133839670
IQ tests are bullshit indicators of success. In my experience the greatest indicator is "grit". Best way to build grit is thru exposure to hunger and hardship when young coupled with desire for improvement.

>>133840848

why are so much of you guys IQ deniers? Are you guys resentful for being dumb or just fell for the marxist meme? Leftists hate IQ because they hate anything that can be used to rank people(because losers hate to be ranked), also IQ tests destroy their fantasies that they're smarter than anyone else. But why do right wing /pol/tards deny IQ?

>>133840843
There may be some correlation, no doubt, even if not everybody agrees on how meaningful it is. As far as discussion on /pol/ goes, it's not much different from high-schoolers that take Myers-Briggs personality tests too seriously.

>>133841136
What you call "grit" is probably what psychologists measure as conscientiousness (big 5 personality model, and together with intelligence it is the best predictor of success)

>>133840119
>t. never worked with low IQ people
Sub 85 are barely functional, what we consider simple tasks are difficult to teach them to do. Most get weeded out in school and you've probably never had to interact with any

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>>133836352
Let's test it.
Are you for or against open borders and limitless "immigration" to your shores??

>>133841228
not everybody believes you can meaningfully and accurately measure intelligence with a single number, that's all.

>>133841228
The significance of IQ is overrated. In real life it's close to irrelevant as a measure of success. Also only people with low self-esteem care much about their IQ.

>>133841373
this

>>133841414
Everybody has different priorities and measures of success in their life.

>>133836471
> He got below 110

>>133841510
If you are a laborer then your IQ won't have as much bearing on your success as how hard you work. But if you want to move on from that and become a successful owner of, say, a construction company, then you'd better believe IQ is relevant. And if you want to be a successful physicist or mathematician then don't even bother if your IQ is not at least 130.

>>133841886
my iq is 94 and im in uni studying psychology

>>133841486
>>133841510

But why? psychologists agree that it's very meaningful. Also, I'm not claiming that it can describe you with a single number, just that it is a very good indicator of success.

>"The significance of IQ is overrated. In real life it's close to irrelevant as a measure of success"

No it's not irrelevant, that's what stupid marxists claim. If you pick a group of high IQ people(ashkenazi jews) and then compare to group of low IQ people(niggers) do you really think that, even if both have the same socio-economic status, they'll end up having the same success or that the differences won't be meaningful?

Youre a nigger, op https://youtu.be/XqS2g5WlMgM

>>133841456
Open borders is madness, you have to be dumb to see how much this kind of immigration policy could be exploited by migrants and government/corporations. The only way i could see it somehow functioning is removing the welfare state altogether (since is one of the main reason migrants move to other states) but even so it's not guaranteed to work, because you have to assume that every migrant comes with a clean criminal record and does not equate to a potential threat to the country.

I mean the list could go on forever but that's not the point of the thread so let's not derail it

>>133836352
Genes are still a lottery. You might have taken your grand-father genes.

>>133841954
No, psychologists don't agree that it's very meaningful. Non-shit psychologists only believe in empirical results, and are careful to make any blanket statements.

>>133836352
Maybe someone in your family got an inaccurate score, or there are plenty of smart people in your senpai but you simply don't interact with them or know about them.

you were born in an era where information is wild and free, and you have adequate access to such information which helped to develop you.

That, or good old genetic lottery and your family has more 130+ members than you think

This isn't your personal blog Toni. Fuck off. Sage.

>>133841886
No level of IQ prevents you from studying a book or practicing some skills. IMO it's about being in the right environment for it (see: maslow hierarchy), and having enough personal interest to maintain your determination.

>>133837389
t. nigger

>>133836352

You = well fed.

>>133841946
what's your point?
>>133842296
>No level of IQ prevents you from studying a book
If your IQ is less than 70 or 80 then you probably can't read a book above a grade 5 level if you can even read at all. It absolutely can prevent you from doing things

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>your parents didnt feed you fish oil tablets as you were growing up and thus missed out on an extra few IQ
>your parents didnt start physical training from a young age and thus missed out on a decade of lifting

>>133836352
Many reasons, one being probability. If you don't understand that re: standard deviations from the mean under normal distributions, I would take another test. The first was probably a fluke numnuts.

>>133842518
no level of IQ can save you if you don't know how to read. It's not like even high IQ people can read a language they haven't studied.

>>133842821
are you saying a high energy highly motivated average iq person can out preform a low energy low motivated high iq person?

>>133842916
sure why not

>>133843018
Only iq matters.

>>133842115

do you even know what IQ is?

basically a guy noticed that there was a big correlation between intelligence tests(people who have good verbal skills also have good math skills and spatial skills... and so on). He then tried to find a common factor that would explain this success, he isolated this correlated number and called it general intelligence. Thus IQ was born.

it's not a "blanket statement", it's useful. This idea that IQ is meaningless and unscientific was popularised by a literal marxist jew(who isn't even a psychologist) in his popular book "The measmeasure of men" that was debunked time and time again. The problem is: the book sold a lot. People like to buy the idea that they're special snowflakes and that everyone is intelligent in some way, people hate to hear the truth: some people are simply smarter than you, deal with it.

>>133842821
That's the point. You can't read if you have a low IQ and you never will. You also won't be able to understand the same content in spoken form, or any other medium either. That's a pretty big barrier to performing in a lot of fields.

>>133836352

Im 138, although both parents are highly educated.

Anyway, its partially genetic, but genetics only determine "potential" and most people never meet it, so technically the genetic side is... not really relevant.

What really determines is society, stimulus, and education.

Read into Flynn effect.
Read into studies with feral children

And draw your own conclusions.
Feral children for example will never develop cognition beyond of an infant due to this.

>>133836352
I don't believe either of my parents has an IQ over 125-ish, yet my brother scored 147 and I scored 150(+), so shit happens. I might add it wasn't an online test, but rather a battery of tests over the course of a year so we could participate in guv'mint programs for the fifted and whatnot.

I believe it should be in the best interests of a coutry to foster high IQ populations, Singapore-style.

>>133843450

If your mother has either an intelligent mother or father you know where this high IQ came from.

>>133843574
The thing is, they are from rural areas and never studied; post-war Spain wasn't really the place to train one's intelligence. I might never know.

That said, my extended family isn't particularly bright, and there are differences between me and my brother, him being a proper normie.

>>133843143
How did you come to that conclusion?
>>133843146
Anybody can come up with a test with results that correlate with academic knowledge. At the end of the day, the empirical results of the test can only be taken at face value. Anything you extrapolate from them is guesswork.
>>133843175
Assuming you have a normal functioning brain, that shouldn't be a problem.

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>>133836352

>plays a TF2 copy for 40$

Apprently IQ isn't everything

>>133843574
Its not entirely genetic. Read >>133843246

the vast majority is social/cultural/educational.

Put a white kid from super duper smart parents (btw this does not work, statistically smarter parents dont really get smarter kids when adjusting for education/money) in africa, and the child will be as dumb as the black kids around him.

Now, when you have equal access to education, here genetics will make a difference, with the same stimulus, same food, same culture, same education, then genetics will give you some advantage between peers. Otherwise, genetics matter little. Well, assuming kids are healthy and not retarded.

>>133843858
>Assuming you have a normal functioning brain, that shouldn't be a problem
Have you ever met someone with an IQ of 70? Almost by definition they don't have a normal functioning brain.

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>>133836352
Mensa member here (136 IQ), ask me anything. I'm not trolling. I took the Weschlers Adult Intelligence Scale (WAIS-IV) and scored 136, which by some standards is in the genius range.

>>133844093
That's not entirely true; performance may be streamlined in low stimulus environments, but as soon as you push toward excelence, genetics matter a lot. Intelligence is not that different from the other attributes that make a man.

>>133843870
>does not understand that sex sells, so posting a qt 3.14 pic will likely attract people to the thread

>>133840560
>>my 4 siblings are all successful, all earning over 30 grand a year
>>im neet
>How is that possible


The fact that you're brandishing a kekistani flag says a lot about how that is possible.

>>133836352
same here, my family is from 110 to 130, but I ended up 145+

>>133844499
*on an official psychiatric test that is

>>133844499
On what test?

>>133844365
That is what im saying.

And it will only breach the status quo of peers if you are genetic advantange, its the only scenario where it matters.

Before reaching that point, its determined by education

>>133844212
So let me get this straight:

Somebody didn't learn how to read.
Therefore they do poorly on an IQ test in reading comprehension.
Therefore they're too dumb to learn to read.

See the circular argument?

>>133844499
>but I ended up 145+

And yet you fail to use proper sentence structure or punctuation…...

>>133843450
It should be , but politician will never do it for two main reason i think

High IQ people will usually :
1) vote for less government, since they think they can do without the service offered by them or can provide for themselves
2) try to "become the government", for the whole "i am better than thou, so i should lead"

>>133836471

Is there a reputable online IQ test?

>>133842412
>>133842544

Well yeah, my parents fed me fish twice a week and forced me to play sports as a kid, guess that got me some points on the way

>>133844796
Strictly no.

>>133844093

nope, this idea that the smart kid will get dumb if it's created in bad conditions(and the opposite by the way) is the idea of nurture over nature, this idea is certainly the most popular, but still evidence is not on it's side.

IQ is mostly genetics:
https://geneticliteracyproject.org/2015/01/07/iq-is-mostly-inherited-new-research-suggests/

also:
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-intelligence-hereditary/

"This estimate of 50 percent reflects the results of twin, adoption and DNA studies. From them, we know, for example, that later in life, children adopted away from their biological parents at birth are just as similar to their biological parents as are children reared by their biological parents. Similarly, we know that adoptive parents and their adopted children do not typically resemble one another in intelligence."

So even the quite normie-friendly Scientif American agrees that IQ is at least 50% genetics, so your idea that "the vast majority is social/cultural/educational" is simply stupid.

>>133844600
We reach that point by the time we go to elementary school, only it becomes a bigger advantage at uni or work. If the sistem was geared towards fostering intelligence instead of helping those challenged, it would be made evident fast enough.

>>133844604
You are really showing your ignorance.
They use special IQ tests for illiterate subjects.

Haven't done a legit IQ test, but my COGAT score and SAT score both correlate to a 147 IQ.
I plan on doing a real test at some point to see if that's bullshit or not.

>>133841886
Sure you're right. But what I'm saying, having high IQ won't move you from being laborer to a company owner. You're gonna need much much more to do that than high IQ. Including some luck.

>>133844691
I don't think that is always the case, and high IQ isn't always a recipe for success (although there's a very strong correlation). Besides, those in power should often be relatively intelligent themselves.

Democracy is, however, a popularity contest, so there's that.

>>133844604
You test people who have been taught to read, obviously. IQ tests are fairly neutral, and have been adjusted to make males and females score similarly on average--though the spreads are indeed different.

>>133844600

since you doesn't seem like a dumb guy I'll dump more material:

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2012/06/genetic-variants-build-smarter-brain

this one talks about genes that we know to influence intelligence

Also from Wikipedia:

"The general figure for the heritability of IQ, according to an authoritative American Psychological Association report, is 0.45 for children, and rises to around 0.75 for late teens and adults.[5][6] In simpler terms, IQ goes from being weakly correlated with genetics, for children, to being strongly correlated with genetics for late teens and adults. The heritability of IQ increases with age and reaches an asymptote at 18–20 years of age and continues at that level well into adulthood.[7] Recent studies suggest that family and parenting characteristics are not significant contributors to variation in IQ scores;[8] however, poor prenatal environment, malnutrition and disease can have deleterious effects."

this is interesting because we not only know that IQ is important, we also know that it becomes more important later in life.

>>133836352
>entire family has 46 chromosones
>I got myself tested, ended up being 47

How is this possible /pol/?

>>133844976

Incorrect. nurture matters more, genetics simply set limits. If you only analyze a sample size of people inside the same population or similar levels of education, ofc it will appear that genetics matter more.

again, take a child with high IQ, put them in africa, and watch.
Look at wild children. Im not saying genetics dont matter, they matter a lot, but only when a certain level is reached, until then they are just potential

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>>133845290
I can confirm. I recently joined Mensa and went to a couple meetings to see what the people were like. Most were chronic under achievers, overweight, etc. It was depressing.

My point is, high IQ is one component of being successful. I truly believe you need three things. 1. Industriousness (hard work ethic) 2. Morality 3. High IQ

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>>133836352
>sister is 91
>I am 139

in the case of my family intelligence runs in the male lines, on both sides

I don't know why this happens

>>133845290
Also consider:
>being a psychopath
>being a member of a powerful secret society
>being a member of (((the tribe)))
>being ruthless and immoral

>>133845079
More than just elementary school. You need to develop the ability to think in abstract means, and that is highschool level with philosophy, more advanced mathematics, and various other STEM and linguistic education.

University wont develop it further, but it will give you the skills and tools to correctly seek knowledge and make use of it.

>>133844976
Of course it's mostly genetics: genes separate us from each other, but also from a dog or an inanimate object. Genes are to blame for your human condition, which comes with human intelligence.

Ashkenazi Jews have been consistently proven to score very high as a group in most tests, and most sub-saharian populations score quite low even when brought up in a positive environment..

>>133845610
we both got tested by a psychiatrist when I was 12, if anyone's wondering if it's a real number

>>133836352
You have to take the IQ test at least three times for a accurate result

>>133845779
You need to be tested again once you're 25. IQ is heritable at that point.
Make sure, at least, to be tested again before you get married, if you're pairing up before that age.

>>133845472

True what you say, i merely disagree on how important the genetic factor is and under what circumstances. I have done genetic screening and have several markers of "high intelligence" and yet during most of my life i did fuck all with it, intelligence and genetics alone do not really determine end results, it takes more things into the mix. That is the only thing in contesting, perhaps a bit sideline to the main topic.

>>133845847
You are right i should

>>133845432
>Besides, those in power should often be relatively intelligent themselves.

As you said it's a popularity contest, it's not guaranteed that the smartests rule

>>133845580
You fucking dumbass, have you read the studies? Why do you think that you know more than the scientific community? Are you this anti-consensus when it comes to global warming or evolution?

The studies all point to the same direction: IQ is at least 50% genetic and we even know some genes involved. We also know that nurture becomes almost non-relevant when people grow up, but is very important during childhood.

also, a lot of the nurture factors are non-trivial:

"Meta-analyses have found that environmental factors, such as iodine deficiency, can result in large reductions in average IQ; iodine deficiency has been shown to produce a reduction of 12.5 IQ points on average."

so, get your iodine.

another interesting bit from Wikipedia:

"Spatial ability has been shown to be unifactorial (a single score accounts well for all spatial abilities), and is 69% heritable in a sample of 1,367 twins from the ages 19 through 21.[53] Further only 8% of spatial ability can be accounted for by a shared environmental factors like school and family.

69% is a lot, bro. And this number of twins is enough to a good fucking study.

There's more to IQ then genetics plus it's not that uncommon for a little over average parents have very intelligent child.

>>133846101
Likewise for very intelligent parents to have a little over average child.
Still, this stuff is statistically predictable; you'd want brilliant parents if you could choose them.

>>133845865
>You need to be tested again once you're 25.
I'm sure it has probably changed since then, but I can't be bothered to test again, and if anything I've lost a few points, I don't feel like I've become smarter lol

>>133845779

Your IQ isn't stationary throughout your life, if you don't continue to develop (which is entirely possible on 4chan which seems to be full of people who didn't even graduate highschool and just sit in their mums spare bedroom all day) a 139 IQ on a 12 year old is under average intelligence for an adult.

>>133846241
Right. That's precisely why it's important.

>>133845951

"I have done genetic screening and have several markers of "high intelligence" and yet during most of my life i did fuck all with it"

that doesn't mean you're dumb, IQ can't predict if you'll be a loser or not, just that you have a higher chance of not being a loser than a low IQ person.

>>133846323
Stop projecting you absolute nigger.

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>>133846092
Plus you wouldn't want super intelligent people in charge cause they all believe in Globalism and multiculturalism heavily, which I always have wondered that if we ever decided to back away from the United States, who would be our Doctors and Scientists and intellectuals in general? Because all of the people worth having in this new nation would be against it. I don't know food for thought, but I just always wondered that.

>>133846501
That's quite a lot of nonsense.

I'm not reading all this shitstorm of idiots, so i'll answer bluntly;

High IQ as well as genetic disorders/diseases often skip generations. Your grandparents are probably smarter than your parents.

IQ is also only truly a test of memorisation. It doesn't test a lot else, so it's easy to exell at it if you're say, mildly autistic and always paying attention.

>>133846501
I think you're mixing up intelligent people with Jews and good goyim.
There are plenty of brilliant whites who are out of the top tiers of government and business due to (((certain))) factors.

>>133846323
I'm still top of the class in my uni (maths), I'm not concerned about being anywhere near average, it's just that I don't care enough about the specific number to get tested again

>>133846094
No, im not anti consensus towards evolution or climate change, not sure why you do this logic jumps.

You are missing the point, you need education to reach that potential, you will not, ever, without a proper culture, education, and stimulus.

Which means, unless those conditions are met genetics play a lesser role.

Understand, I'm not saying its meaningless, I'm saying that while it has a large importance, its not the end all of it, unless basic conditions are met, there wont be that much of a difference.

Seras incapaz de perceber isso? olha, aprendi esta lingua por mim mesmo em um ano, se quiseres falamos assim, embora aprendi continental, nao do brazil

>>133836352
luck

>>133846348

Ofc, im not saying otherwise. Merely pointing out that again, factors beyond it matter. Also i did get my shit together, self made nowadays, only took 26 years to start giving a shit.

Was a bit of an edgelord until then, saw no point in any of this.

>>133846501
You'd have to assume thought that :

A) All people in charge are smart
B) All smart people believe in globalism

Come to Italy and you can see that A is not the case at all and B you have a lot of very smart people (Jordan Peterson for example who is 150+) who do not believe in globalism

>>133836741
It actually predicts quite accurately how much you will earn during the course of your life

>>133836352
Mutation, Flynn Effect

Just remember the higer the IQ, the more likely you'll experience mental illness.

>>133846617
>>133846668
Not talking about government talking about top notch cancer research doctors, Mathematicians, physicists, biologists, what your going to deny that everybody at the top of there field right now isn't liberal, look at the brain drain in Germany when hitler came to power, they where the top of the intellectual community then at the bottom

>>133846713

hi fellow mathfag, what your interest area?

>>133846852
Yeah but Jorden Peterson won't accept white nationalism he'd rather side with the globalist, he doesn't accept our message look at the video where some SJW student walk up to him and trying to tell him he's a nazi and he res to explain that there are "evil" people in the depths of the internet using this SJW stuff to there advantage

>>133836693
mensa one gives inflated scores. I got 143 on the mensa test and 120 on a test given by a professional psychologist.

>>133846893
Also how long you'll live. Higher IQ correlates to a longer life.

>>133836693
My leaving cert score placed me in a percentile equivalent to an iq of 100-110 and since it's multiple long exams, goal oriented and competitive, I think it's far more relevant than an IQ test.

People think I'm an awkward intellectual, not because of any great intellectual accomplishment but because I'm introvert and interested in nerdy subjects.

I don't know.

>>133846965
I'm digging computational science lately

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>>133846965
>tfw you're much better at math than people around you but are going for engineering so you can bathe in shekels

>>133836352
IQ tests have to be given by a psychologist, and the test has many flaws.

>>133847566
Yeah thats why you need to take it at least three times for a median result

I don't fully understand regression towards the mean and IQ genetic inheritance. Let's say a population with an average IQ of 85 decided to implement a eugenics program where they encourage only couples with an average IQ of 100 or more to propagate, so their overall population reaches that 100 IQ standard. Let's say this happens for two or three generations, will the average IQ of that population actually increase to the level of their parents, or will their children have an IQ around the original population's IQ average due to regression?

>>133837312
>t. russian
:----D

>>133847731
Somewhere in the middle.

>>133846893
yes, a lot of the genes for higher intelligence are benefic when you have just one allele but malefic when you have both alleles. You can learn more about this by looking at the ashkenazi jews: there are a lot of diseases that are very common to this population, but very uncommon for goy. Those diseases became common because the evolutionary pressure for higher intelligence was stronger than the pressure for less mental diseases. This also happened with niggers and sickle cell anemia because of Malaria.

>>133846624
>IQ is also only truly a test of memorisation
You've never taken an IQ test or are dull as fuck to believe that. IQ tests aren't perfect, but they're a decent way to measure one's intelligence.

>>133846947
Blame social and political instability and the threat of war. The USSR saw a similar brain drain over the years.

>>133847731
Genetics are like flipping the dice on average the IQ would raise but you'll never know when you'll get that super intellectual that could change the world

>>133847267

sounds cool, I'm a pure math fag.

>>133847157

>High IQ leads to longer life

Hey it's almost like correlation doesn't equal causation

http://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations

But you're a genius with a high IQ so you already knew that

>>133844796
http://iqtest.dk

>>133847876
Just saying not a lot of folk who are up there don't want to be used to forward something they don't believe in

>>133847954
maths phd here
I think we are probably overrepresented on the site

>>133847267
Where do you work/study?

>>133848001
Fuck did you say to me

>>133846624

You should read the "shitstorm of idiots" and stop saying retarded shit like this.

>>133848001
I literally used the word "correlates."
Not sure what you want from me, buddy.

>>133839670
>>sister is studying to become engineer. skipped two classes in highschool because she is so talented

Is that supposed to mean anything? I literally skipped grades. Tell your sister she's a brainlet like everyone else.

>>133847418

You could also make money from math, but I would only consider math for those who really love it. To do good in math you should really be ready to live math everyday with no regret.

>>133845591
Yep, that's the people that hang around long time in Mensa. Industrious people see that, hang along a little and then leave.

>>133848222
>3 out of 4 american men are overweight
>thinks we'll believe his fat ass has done shit

>>133848086

INTJ are VERY overrepresented on this site. Mathfags probably are INTJ in high numbers.

>>133846323
Shill or just plain stupid?

>>133848309
yeah intj confirmed

>>133848083
Caesar and Napoleon were likely extremely gifted individuals. Genius IQ doesn't mean infallibility, and the way in which someone will aid or hinder a cause to the best of their ability has a lot more to do with where their goals lie. It doesn't take a genius to realize that the current demographic and migratory trends are likely to impact negatively things they love.

>>133848309
intj is just the average normie, hence why its the most represented. its like having a regular blood type no one gives a fuck about. Literally peon suicide tier.

>>133836352
I was smart as a kid, but I've been depressed for years, physically inactive, haven't had the best diet, and have been an underachiever since highschool. Do you think this has affected my IQ? I feel like a retard.

>>133846501
>multiculturalism
Belief in multiculturalism can be easily cured with a few weeks in the hood.

>>133848086

also:

about your memory theory:

"Evidence suggests that the correlation between long-term memory and IQ is one-way in terms of causal relationship: People with high IQs generally tend to have good long-term memory (i.e. they can demonstrate impressive general knowledge and powers of recall), but not all people with good long-term memories have high IQs. A dramatic example of the latter would be autistic savants, some of whom can perform almost superhuman feats of memorization and recall, but who do not score very highly on conventional IQ tests, and many may even have subnormal IQs."

- Quora Psychologist fag

so, autistic people with super-good memory aren't doing that good in IQ tests. But memory indeed is a characteristic of intelligent people.

>>133848490
I have no idea m8, I only know that (to your luck) things you do in childhood affects you more than things done later in life

>>133836352
If you actually had an IQ of 135, you would know the answer to your stupid question.

>>133848456

WRONG

"INTJs form just two percent of the population, and women of this personality type are especially rare, forming just 0.8% of the population – it is often a challenge for them to find like-minded individuals who are able to keep up with their relentless intellectualism and chess-like maneuvering."

2% is the real number, in /pol/ is much higher than this.

>>133848445
Impact what, most top notch dudes don't care, there the ones thinking that whites should have interracial relationships and liberal ideologies. Sorry I just don't see it I don't mean to be black pilled but we would be simply out matched at every turn. Unless Stephan Hawkings crippled ass all of a sudden decides too go full Nazi then id feel better.

>>133848490
Yes, you've become stupider. The good news is you can regain your lost intelligence by working at it. The brain begins pruning back unused pathways during adolescence though so you will never recover 100%.

>>133848762
actually that's untrue, everytime this test is taken everyone is always representing intj. It is the most common. It's literally the easiest most down syndrome result you can get, you actually have to actively avoid it in order to not get it.

>>133848650
Did you mean to reply to me? I don't have a theory about memory. In fact, my memory is substantially impaired which has made my work a lot harder. I use flash cards a lot to try to make up for it.
>>133848762
taking such obvious bait

>>133848921
You know that reading in your head restores certain pathways that have been damaged and keeps a healthy brain, found that out a couple years ago

>>133848298
>10 out of 10 kekistani flag posters are cucks
>thinks his opinion is worth anything

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>>133836352
>fell for the IQ meme

>>133848309
>tfw intp and wish i was intj or entj

Feels bad

>>133848828
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4665198/Bill-Gates-warns-open-door-migration-overwhelm-Europe.html

>>133848762
Most people on this site take a severely dumbed down test which is literally just a personality test akin to the Big 5. It doesn't mean shit. INTJ and all that are based on cognitive functions, THOSE are the actual 2% of the population. Most 4chan users do not have that type, since they take a completely incorrect test.

>>133848976

It's one of the rarest in general population. But if you're on /pol/ or some academic environment you'll find them everywhere. You need to change your view of normies, your "normies" are still not normies for the general population.

>>133849283
Are there even any good tests online?

>>133848921
This is why I hate terrible parents.

>>133849252
Yes I know what he thinks doesn't mean he's going to support a all white nation that excludes others and teaches "propaganda" just means he doesn't agree and probably want to help find a different solution

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>>133847566
>has many flaws
I don't know why people still feel the need to point that out. We can't properly measure ones intelligence, no fucking shit! The moment we understand our brains good enough to do this, is the exact moment we can make perfect human-like AI.

>Terroni daydreaming about being smart
Woah, you can read and write, so what?

>>133849283
I seriously don't know how reliable is the internet test. I think you may be right, but I would be very surprised if the quantity of INTJ in this site wasn't at least 200% that of the general population.

>>133847685
No one has time to spend 9 hours on IQ tests.

>>133849305
I mean that's just blatantly false since the only people who ever bother taking this test are intj

>>133849190

Worse is you faggots think personality tests are legit. Do you losers even realize the results can change day over day?

>>133849407
That's because certain things here are taken to an absurd extreme. Still, one may see the usefulness of concepts like nationality or religion without fully buying into them.

This shit makes /pol/ very hard to subvert by outsiders, but liable to buy into shit like anti-NN rants.

>>133849504
Well thats usually what you have too do to get a accurate result, plus nobodys going to do the tests all in one day come on lad

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>>133849644
>he doesn't take 3 consecutive IQ tests every Saturday

>>133836352
happened to me too but my sister is retarded (not a joke) that's just how genes work it's a dice roll for the most part within a certain spread

>>133849596
True I'm glad you understand I whole heartedly agree with you on that. Its just a shame sometimes because a lot of people trying to make something happen have to appeal to the /pol/ crowd and others that just don't understand.

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>>133849324
I doubt it. Even the ones that supposedly measure MBTI correctly such as
http://www.celebritytypes.com/cognitive-function/test.php
can still possibly be changed according to your mood when you take it.
>>133849494
>I would be very surprised if the quantity of INTJ in this site wasn't at least 200% that of the general population
Yeah, you're right.

>>133849644
>>133849504
I was forced to take a shitton of tests in my youth to be eligible for certain programs, and had a personal psychiatrist visit my school every week up until I was in high school. It was actually rather entertaining and refreshing. Plus, when skipping grades I got to choose which classes I wanted to attend, though I had to cope with some bulling at first.

Recently, I've been thinking I'd love to help gifted children realize their potential; there are many things one can learn by going through all that. If only I had the time.

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>>133849761
>he doesn't self-administer IQ tests constantly, only taking breaks to sleep

>>133849324
>>133850109
Online tests are decent for a first estimate, as long as you don't cheat. Proper tests may cost you money.

>>133839670
hahahahahaha

>>133840373
>revert to the mean
>heritability .75 IQ in adulthood
>large differences in IQ by race
ok
revert to the mean means that over the generations genius genes will be diluted by fucking average people.
If two geniuses fuck they have a great chance at a genius kid and if that kid fucks another genius their kid will likely be a genius as well.

>>133840373
Regression to the mean occurs at ~25% per generation, no?
Certainly not at ~90% like you imply.

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>>133850191
I obviously meant psychiatrist tests; don't pay for an online test. Also, Big 4 companies force you to take an IQ test of sorts when applying for the job.

>>133850248
Sadly, genius IQ women are far, far more rare than men.

>>133836352
>>Entire family is 100-105 IQ
>>I got myself tested, ended up being 135
>How is that possible /pol/?
What are postal workers and milkmen?

>>133848762
INTJ's are socially stunted incels. The only people who give a fuck about those test are INTJ's, INTP's, INFP's, INFJ's and ENFP's. They care because they need to explain why they suck at life and all are depressed/schizoid except ENFP who is tard happy.

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>>133850580

>160 IQ milkman fucked your mom

>>133850580
>135 IQ
>mailmen
more like honey I'm going out with the girls tonight...rides chad's cock in the bathroom.

>>133850248
>>133850399
You realise that the 0.75 heratibility figure is not directly about parents passing on their genes right? Think of it more as an estimate of how much variance could be explained for genetic clones, rather than the percentage of some trait passed on by a mother and father.

>>133836352
IQ decreases over time. Take the test at the age of your parents.

>>133851558
IQ tests are age-adjusted.

>>133850527
Now show the real bell-curves,not the kid propaganda one.

>>133851908
The kid propaganda one serves to illustrate my point; you can do your own research. IQ is a touchy subject and good papers are hard to come by.

>>133850248
>>133850399
Correlation between parent and child is actually only 0.2 or so when the child is not raised in the same household as the parent
In short, 0.75 heritability means the intelligence of your identical twin can be 75% explained by your intelligence. Actual real-world generation to generation correlation can be significantly less.

I think this is how the heritability of IQ works, correct me if I'm wrong:

When two white 130IQ people have a kid, the kid will be on average slightly higher than the average 100IQ white person, say 105. So high IQ people will have a higher chance to spawn another 130IQ kid than the average person, but it's still much more likely that the kid is average.

The same would apply to high IQ black people and the opposite to low IQ people.

>>133852316
that's my understanding too

>>133852316
No, it works exactly like any other quantitative trait.

>>133852934
So you're saying two 130IQ people people's kids will be on average 130IQ? Sort of like height works? I've never seen a proposition like that.

So if we just impose hard eugenics in Africa they'll flourish in two generations?

>>133853491
yes, everyone is sterilized in Africa and whites and insect chinks migrate in.

>>133836693
Recessive traits resurfacing perhaps?
My maternal grandfather has an iq above 150, and lifted his family out of poverty when he got into a school for nobility based on his merit, later becoming a sucessful entrepeneur and engineer.
I was tested while getting treatment for my crippling OCD, and scored a 142.
This of course doesn't mean anything since i am constantly dragged down by my illness, and thus i am a dissapointment to my grandfather.

>>133853785
I was diagnosed with OCD when I was young, but I haven't bothered to correlate my issues with it as I've grown older. How does your OCD affect you, if you don't mind me asking?

>>133853491
Not exactly; take height for example. Kids often turn taller or shorter than their parents. There's a lot of variability and factors that are hard to account for.

>>133836352
actually have similar story
mother is around 120, owns a successful business and raised my brother and I alone and redpilled the fuck out of us on liberalism, communism, women being fucked up and the legal system being against men, and niggers very early in life.

my father is a fuck up. degenerate, probably 90 or less iq, in prison most of his life and my brother and i's life. idk why my mother was with him.

I paid for a mensa IQ test a couple years ago and scored a 139.

my brother takes the mensa test every year or so and he stays in the 143 to 145 range.

This has been bugging me ever since I found out.

>>133854309
everytime you mention your ocd diagnoses you always conveniently forget to mention it was also your diabeetus diagnoses

>>133855453
I don't have the beetus.

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German writer Goethe IQ estimated at 210. They really were master race.

http://archive.is/EQ3zx

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>>133841136
>IQ tests are bullshit indicators of success.

This statement is the direct inverse of reality.

>>133840589
>IQ is mostly genetics and the strongest correlation is with the mother
>with the mother

Shit. My mother, while not an idiot, isn't very bright.

Father was one with brains.

>>133849190
Entj are bitches that provide endless entertainment to chastise. Intp are chill and fun to talk to, intj are as well but they're also probably trying to steal your wallet or figure out where you live

T. Entp

>>133853785
that's the fucking problem, to my knowledge all my relatives were labourers. My maternal grandparents were a construction worker and a tailor. My paternal grandparents are a chief of police and an housewife. My uncles are no better off (high school teachers and programmers).

So where the fuck did i get it if IQ is partially inherited? Did i get like 110 and grew the fuck out it? Is it possible? 20 points seems way too much

>>133856121
turn on geographical flag and say that

>>133836352
>weeb
>135
Hmm....

>>133843246
>Read into studies with feral children

Human brain, without language, is crippled.

Same reason they thought deaf people were mentally retarded for so long.

Genetics is still a factor in intelligence.

>>133836352
If you practice IQ tests you get better scores. Same with if you practice non verbal reasoning in other ways. IQ test is not an accurate measurement of your intelligence.

>>133855796
Except it really isn't.

I've seen idiots make millions and very intelligent people live in squalor.

It's about who you know, not what you know.

hello my autistic friend :^)

>>133844796
No.

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>>133843246
>Flynn effect

This is also a meme.

"Because people are taller today than they were 200 years ago means genetics have no bearing on height."

>>133844690
High iq isnt the same as being autistic

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>>133856436
>I've seen idiots make millions and very intelligent people live in squalor.

Your antecedents are more important than multitudes of studies.

Urine Ideot.

>>133856290
Like this?

>>133844976
I miss pre 2005 Scientific American.

Either I already learned all the interesting ideas in popular science or they severely dumbed down the publication

>>133836352
IQ is not completely genetic. I kind of hate how /pol/ seems to think that, I mean sure if you come from a family of 75 IQ that probably won't change but is is not impossible.

Op, for how long were you breastfed ?

>>133840843
It works like this:

The average white IQ is around 105 or so. Say 2 white parents have a kid and both of their IQs are 130+. The parents are outliers to their group (Caucasian) and this doesn't effect offspring so their kid is much more likely to be an average 105 iq for their race instead of a 130+ iq outlier like them.

>>133836352
WHY DOES OP PIC HAVE FEET LIKE A CHIMPANZEE???

>>133857734
Was meant for

>>133840589

>>133836693
Everyone who isnt half retarded get a 130-150 points on these tests even when you are just quickly guessing stuff

They are giving you retards higher points as an incentive to make these retarded threads and share th-e links so they can collect even more data.

Of course internally they rate you as the retards you are.

>>133836352
It's the same for me. My mom, dad, sisters are dumber than most Americans by miles.

Except me for some reason. I can code, I can solve games withing hours, I am good at starcraft, my job is in IT but I graduated in computer programming.

I was told that I am a high functioning autistic kid who is a shut because he has social anxiety.

>>133856839
Nice hubris but I'd get it checked.

>>133855993
>>133840589
It´s both, if it was only X that would not explain why there are 2 times more IQ130 males and 5 Times More IQ145 than females.

>>133856420
>If you practice IQ tests you get better scores
So much this.

There is a finite pool of IQ test question types and many involve pattern recognition with the answers simply shuffled. Through practice this kind of question becomes a "gimmie" and you can answer them instantly which is important on timed test. With enough practice you will recognize the same common shit and be able to answer before you even need to finish reading the entire question.

The word scrambles are a basic test of vocabulary. Again memorizing the pool that these draw from makes them easy but also practicing word scramble puzzles, crosswords, etc help pump your score.

The math quests are often the least original, almost cliched, as psychologists have the math skills of a grade 8 student at the best of times and are not creative enough come up with original patterns.

>1, 2, 5, 14, 41, 122?
Obviously 365 comes next, and you can tell that because this question has been used for decades. If you can't answer it after the 14 you are wasting time and didn't practice enough for the IQ test.
>multiple by 3 and then subtract 1

Variations of this are multiply by 5 and subtract 2. There is a pool of these patters and with practice yo will recognize them at a glance. Being able to recognize the question type without having to stop and do any mental math is the key to scoring high especially on mensa tests.

With practice if you can eliminate 75% of the questions on an IQ test as a cliched "freebie" then your remaining time can be focused on the handful of questions that may be unfamiliar to you. IQ tests are created by some of the least creative people on the planet so you can practice and prepare for them and boost your score with ease.

tl;dr

IQ tests only measure your ability to do IQ tests.

>>133836352
You're either adopted or your mother was screwing around with genius tier dick.

>>133836352
its because you are depressive and it has a +30 IQ min

>>133850921
INFP here, can confirm.

>>133855748
>Died in 1832
>Had his IQ tested
Yeah...

Germans are the biggest brainlets of the white race. Tell me a German achievement (other than death and destruction) and I'll match you an even greater achievement of the British or the French.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_quotient#Precursors_to_IQ_testing

>>133846384
No, he's right. It depends on what IQ test you did, but some IQ tests are based on experiences, hence why they can improve over age:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluid_and_crystallized_intelligence

I wuz IQ tested in school for GT in the 5th grade, I was around the 135 zone as well. Online IQ tests nowadays give me varying results, usually seated around 145. But the pattern based IQ tests are nothing like the one my school had me take, so I don't know what to make of them.

>>133854309
Certain thoughts force me to do rituals.
Like "reply to this or your mom will die in her sleep" cranked up to 11

>>133856436

>I've seen idiots make millions

No, you haven't seen one. You just think they are idiots

>>133850921
>says it's retarded
>spends time analyzing it to show how it's stupid

If something is so stupid then why did you spend so much time using it? You must be pretty dumb yourself.

>>133863674
>based on experiences
You can literally learn and practice all the skills on IQ tests and improve them

>>133836471
real answer

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>>133864953
>You can literally learn and practice all the skills on IQ tests and improve them
That is especially important on the larger number games they slip in that incorporate rows and columns.

Both of these are basic arithmetic to solve for the "?" but the time it takes to do so is valuable. (note these are two different unrelated questions in this example. The "?" is a different answer for each).

If you can't solve these examples in under 20 seconds then you didn't practice enough and won't score as high as people who practiced.

>>133844849

Interesting how nobody has thought of that

>>133836471
(op pic is anime)
yep, this

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>>133865778
The trick to these is that they almost always apply the math formula to the row and not the column. Also when 4 columns are given they seem to like comparing the first two numbers to the last two numbers.

>Something happens to first two numbers = something that happens to last two numbers

There is no reason for this as that is just how the test creators tend to do things. So in the first one the sum of the first two columns is equal to the product of the later two columns. Answer is therefore 4.

On the three digit one usually the first two numbers have something to do with the third number. To make the three column puzzles harder they introduce ideas like "the sum of the digits".

Kids who had boring enough parents to buy them pic related puzzle books will breeze through a lot of the math based IQ questions. It's all about practice and recognizing familiar problems.

>>133846092
>As you said it's a popularity contest, it's not guaranteed that the smartests rule

Smarter people have an advantage learning how to be popular.
Whatever you want to do in society, if a smarter dude wants the same, odds are he'll get there first, all other factors being equal

>>133836352
Iq is a sample of a normal distribution random variable, just like literally every random thing in life. Judging by your family the mean is between 100 and 105.

If you still don't understand how this can happen then you're actually a brainlet

>>133844796
>>133840080
Take an online IQ test, then subtract 30.

Suck it Mensa.

im fairly smart in my family and my iq is 73 so i wouldnt believe the iq test

Just stfu OP.
For such a good iq you're pretty fucking ignorant.
Pretty sure you understand but you're just looking for a reason to gloat. That's fine, but stop the bullshit.

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>>133839670
That's harsh. Did you tell your dad you saw it?