So my language teacher said that the Amarican nuked japan just

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>>133832364
Miho-chan is cute, but there are cuter girls in GuP.

>you will never be a glorious Japanese pilot shooting at the Jews in Pearl Harbor

why continue?

>>133832460
Wow you have shit taste

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>>133832460

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>>133832460
Mika best girl

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>>133832364
I studied in an America in Ohio.

My history teacher told me that if they the didn't drop the bomb on Japan, Americans would be speaking Japanese by now

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>>133832364
>British nuked Japan
If only. The Britbong supremacy would be complete

>>133832364
>witty response

>>133832364
America just dropped the bomb to send a message to Russia, the war was already won.

>>133832736
*I studied in America, Ohio.

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>>133832736
oh, they're doing more than speaking japanese, onii chan

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>>133832364
>The worst part is that she thinks that the british who nuke japan

>America drops nukes on Japan
>Japan becomes a cultural force influencing the entire planet
Does radioactivity affect your creativity?

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>>133832884
I wanna be a qt trap desu

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>>133832786
Hey brits are awesome.

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>>133832675
>>133832684
>>133832723
The objectively best girl overall is Anzu-chan.

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>>133833008
Yep

>>133832364
My God, where do you study? Terengganu?

>>133832364
Im just going to tell you. In eastern europe it has never taught us that is was mistake. Here everyone knows it was on purpose to nuke 2 major cities to pring the japanese to their knees and force them to surrender

>>133832364
Wait your language teacher?
Tell her to fuck off and actually study History/ become a History teacher before she starts lying about History.

Also nice flag Malaysia

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>>133833008
>Does radioactivity affect your creativity?
Japan's always been doing stuff like animu, it's just that in the 50s-60s when Americans introduced Japan to comics and Western cartoons the Japanese applied their creativity to western styles

Pic related

>>133832836
The war was not over. It was hopeless for japan but the could have put up a strong fight when being invaded

Still japan was looking for negotiations to surrender in 45 but the usa would not accept anything but unconditional surrender

>>133833038

This nigga is ready to get stoned!

We nuked cities to send a message. They were both important cities for war, and our nukes saved many lives versus the alternative of a land invasion. Worse still, Russia was set to invade Japan from the North, so the only chance of saving Japan from Communism was an early surrender. We saved them from becoming the Poland of the East.

>>133833151
Eh? Even in America its been basic knowledge that nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki were deliberate military operations to force Imperial Japan to cede all war efforts.

>>133833226
Maaan Japan is awesome.

Someone is trying to steal our credit for nuking Japan? We are the only country to use them in war and your teacher tries to credit the brits? Bastard.

It was too end the war by the way. No one would want to invade Japan with ground forces.

>>133833236
>japan was looking for negotiations to surrender in 45
lol there were literally plots to assassinate the emperor because he wanted to surrender

>>133833307
>nuke 2 major cities to pring the japanese to their knees and force them to surrender
>deliberate military operations to force Imperial Japan to cede all war efforts.
That's exactly what he said

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>>133833366
>be russian
>get NIPPED

>>133833407
It was also to test their power on a city to show Russia what we were capable of and keep them off our asses. Had we not nuked Japan, we would have had no objective proof of the devastation a nuclear bast could cause on an inhabited city, and likely would have sated that curiosity with a nuclear World War III. It was a demonstration that created relative peace between the great powers and has maintained it for over 70 years.

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>>133833433
>REEEEEE

>>133833433
N... No homo, Comrade...

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>>133832364
The real truth is the supreme commander is a time travailing otaku and wanted to keep anime safe from the commies.

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>>133833038
wow thats pretty gay desu

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During WW2 the Japanese used to personify their battleships with cute girls to sell merchandise and make people happy with the military desu

>>133833515
>created relative peace
You considered nuking us during Korean war though. Good thing we got our own A-bombs by then.

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>>133833151
>>133833307
>Implying Japan would have surrendered because of a few big booms and not because Russia had mobilised after the Germans were beat.

Talk shit all you want, if the Japs had the Axis behind them they would have fought until the end. Losing wars isn't historically their forté.

Also thread theme. They just don't make them like they used to:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ0emX5RgZQ

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>>133832736
>Second bomb had to be armed before take-off because of it's design.
>Originally meant for Kokura (now Kitakyushu).
>Get to Kokura all clouded over, can't see a thing.
>Wait around for an hour to see if clouds break.
>See Zero fighters climbing up.
>Fuck this, go on to secondary target, someplace called Nagasaki.
>Barely enough fuel to make it to Okinawa.
>Get to Nagasaki, also lots of clouds.
>See some building through clouds.
>Fuck it, bombs away.
>Later find out missed target (Mitsubishi shipyards) by 3 miles and barely touched.
>Who cares, we won.

>>133833113

All are nice, but Erwin best girl.

>>133832364
Regardless of your whole question, I'm guessing both you and your teacher suffer radiation sickness

>>133833144
Selangor my friendo

>>133833193
Malaysia stronk my friend

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>>133833280
>>133833655
i'm at the twink stage

also, you two are related?

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>>133832364
Daily reminder that, at the time of it's bombing, Hiroshima was the Japanese city with the largest population of Christians.

:^)

>>133832364
Japan were a bunch of assholes and needed to get an ass beating so bad that they never stepped out of line again.

>>133833918
g
a
y

>>133833918

Leafs of a shit feather.

Do you like big hairy Abdi ramming your ass?

>>133833819
> missed target (Mitsubishi shipyards) by 3 miles and barely touched.
American bomb weak!

>>133833414
Sure not everyone was agreeing to surrender at that time.

Doesnt change the fact that japan was looking for negotiations via russia.

>>133834136

Amerika had first bomb!
Fuck you!
USSR make bomb out of sheep skin and carpets!
Russia fuck you!

>>133832364
>about you history question
No, America didn't drop the bombs just for fun. It was a message to Russia not to start shit, it also depleted Japanese morale to the point of complete surrender. If you read up on events before he atomic bombs, the japs were fighting tooth and nail to keep the gaijin out, if the war kept going or if a half assed surrender were to happen, the jap citizenry would fight to the death or kill themselves before the raving gaijin arrive.

>as for your teacher having incorrect and shit-tier opinions
You either ignore them or point them out, even people in authority make mistakes and teachers like that are pretty common.

>as per your shit taste in anime
Grow up.

>>133833236
There would never had been an invasion. Japan is a fucking island. It might have went on for another year, but they would have surrendered. The bomb was unnecessary and only used to scare the russians.

>>133833282
>>133833236

In February 1945, MacArthur sent a telegram to Roosevelt saying Japan offered to surrender if they could keep the Emperor.

In July 1945, Japan made the same offer through the Soviet Union (which was neutral with Japan).

Soviets break neutrality treaty on August 8th, invade China next day. Second atomic bomb dropped same day. Japanese surrender August 12th. MacArthur say they can keep Emperor.

>>133833781
Should have done it anyway. It would have been so worth it.

>>133833887
Didn't we own you lads at some point? It'd make sense why you as strong as you are today.

>>133833928
(((PURE COINCIDENCE)))

>>133832364
There's not a pair of nukes in military history that has saved as many lives as those two did. The Germans would've fared better with the Japan treatment. Russkies were onto Manchuria and the US would've invaded through Kyushu. Also, Dresden, Montecasino and most decent-sized battles were far more devastating.

Your teacher is an illiterate.

>>133833429
Japan just thought they were invincible and built their military shit where civilians lived.

>>133834348
There were plans for an invasion by water... the plans never went far because of nukes but it would be the next option

>>133834535
No need for making excuses really, you mercilessly bombed german cities as well.

>>133834136

The atomic bombs used on Japan had a blast radius of one and a half kilometers. Which is one and a half kilometers more than what the commie Russians had.

All those Jew spies you had in our A-bomb program should have given you better info.

>>133834352

When america saw that the japanese emperor was keeping the japs in line and not riot they decided to keep him anyway

>>133834650
>it isnt americas/bongs fault that germans build their houses right were the germans tend to live
Its called de-housing

>>133834258
>It was a message to Russia not to start shit
I read somewhere that during peace conference in Germany Truman spoke to Stalin about new big bomb to get more in negotiations but did not explain it through because of secrecy so Stalin pretended that he did not understand.

>>133834258
>Philippines

>>133834680
>>133834521
Ready, you ignorant fools?

"The atomic bomb had nothing to do with the end of the war. The war would have been over in two weeks without the Russians coming in and without the atomic bomb." - Major General Curtis LeMay, Commander US Army Air Corps for the bombing campaign on Japan.

"The atomic bomb did not win the war against Japan. The Japanese had, in fact, already sued for peace before the atomic age was announced to the world with the destruction of Hiroshima and before the Russian entry into the war." - Admiral Chester Nimitz, Commander US Naval Forces Pacific.

>>133832364
Nukes are a hoax. Tell her that. He's dumb for believing in the nuclear weapon meme.

>>133834677
Our spies told us you had like 2 of them in 1945. Too often Americans believe they could actually wage nuclear war in middle 40s.

>>133832364
your language teacher is a faggot and the japs deserved far more than 2 nukes

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Koume!

>>133835022
Sounds accurate.

I remember hearing something like after the bomb was dropped that Truman tried bragging about it to Stalin who replied with amazement to how they got the sprinkles to stay on the pastry he had.

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>>133832364
American here.
Can confirm it was for fun.
Did you see that fuggin explosion?
Oh bby a double!

>>133835241
Not unconditionally though, no way

>>133832736
That's ridiculous. America had been steadily pushing Japan back in their own home turf for the duration of the Pacific War. The nukes were only used to save the lives of the estimated 100,000 American soldiers who would have otherwise died in the invasion of Japan.

>>133835241
I wathced that one old jew on youtube, former Israel intelligence guy. He's pretty cynical down to earth guy and often correct. He says that they had to nuke Japan to explain money wasted on Manhattan project. Could not just say all those millions were spent in such a hurry unnecessary because ww2 is over.

>>133835273

We actually had three, with a fourth ready to go a few weeks later. The first one was tested in New Mexico. Should have dropped the fourth on Moscow.

>>133835293
Our B-52's dropped their bombs on the wrong country.
>Take off from U-Tapau, drop bombs, land five minutes later.

>>133832364
Your language teacher is ignorant of the facts.
The bottom line is this. Japan's military government was unwilling to surrender, and it had effectively propagandized its fighting men to never surrender. So there were two alternatives from President Harry Truman's standpoint - use the bombs or invade Kyushu, then Honshu.
The war was ended by the Showa emperor, who mentioned the atomic weapons in his acceptance of the Potsdam declaration. As others have stated, the bomb was one of two reasons for the surrender, the other being the entry of the Soviets into the war.

>>133835589
The popular attitude in the US is that the bombs removed any attitude that the Japanese could resist defeat.

The war could have been continued as we kept on fire bombing buildings, but it would have drawn out the war far longer and possibly led to more deaths (so goes the theory).

>>133835672
Give it up. The cat's apparently out of the bag and we don't have to make up facts any more. Truman did it because it was "fucking sweet", in his words to the American public.

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>>133834104
Never done that but will it feels good?

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>>133835241
"The war was totally over, Japan just wanted to keep the Emperor's political power and status as a living god, all their possessions gained in WW2, and their military." - Some military faggot

Nigga have you even looked at the conditions of some of the early japanese peace attempts?

>>133832364
Shut up Mike

>>133835893
can you actually kill mike or at least report him to the police? dont you guys have blasphemy laws or something of the sort

We did it because we'd been jerking off with the Manhattan Project and needed something to bust on.

>>133835672
This. It was either the bombs or an overall bloodbath via invasion. The Japanese were willing to fight to the last man if it was a land invasion.

>>133835787
Here people mostly think that japs surrendered to you because alternative would be their country split like Germany/Korea after USSR joined the fun. Japanese ww2 topic is not very popular here though, it is an insignificant episode in our history after all. Though our ((liberals)) blame Stalin for attacking japs because it was aggressive evil move.

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>>133835881

No Faggot!
It does not feel good!
Trust me bud.

Also anime is for faggots.
Stop posting it!

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America-kun!

Stop bring race issue on Japanese vidya!

>>133835456

The only condition the Japanese had was to retain the Emperor. This was the same offer made in February and July 1945.

>Allies: Potsdam Declaration demands surrender of Japan.
>Japan: Potsdam Declaration doesn't mention getting rid of Emperor. Can we keep him?
>Truman: That is up to the Supreme Commander Douglas MacArthur.
>MacArthur: (Let's get this over with before fucking Stalin and the Russians claim more territory for doing jack-shit.) The Japanese can keep the Emperor.

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>>133836169
>It does not feel good!
>Trust me bud.

leaf confirmed as faggot

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>>133835497
Ikr?

there is no way Japan could win

If anything, the dropping of the bombs ensured that the Cold War would be bloodless. If the United States never showed their bombs, and the USSR never pushed hard to build them, the Cold War could have easily become a very long continuation of WW2.

>>133836214
>only one condition
As i said NOT unconditional
Are you an idiot?

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>>133836371
...because everyone had a katana and katanas can cut through tanks.

>>133836530
>what are nuclear tests

>>133832364
the japanese still held a vast territory with resources that would allow them to fight for many years. they were not going to surrender, that is not the japanese way. the americans had two choices: an amphibious invasion(operation downfall) of the main land that, according to estimates, would cause the death of about 5 million(more than 50% civilian) people or use the atomic bomb. they chose the later, the death can only be measured by estimates, but it didn't go past 150k. do the math. still, the military command of Japan would not surrender, even after the second bomb. Finally the emperor himself came to his senses and made tbe final decision on his own.

>>133835456
>muh unconditional surrender
was a hideously kikeish move in both theaters sacrificing the lives of millions out of nothing, but hatred and revenge

>>133832364
US did the best it can do to prevent more death, and ended the war earlier.

>>133836348

Those words mean nothing.
Nothing at all treefag.
Why don't you mind your own business.
I was talking to the Faggot!

>>133836530
>Cold War would be bloodless

>Korean war
>Vietnam war

>Proxy wars all around the freaking glob

>>133836593
>Who is not understanding here?

The surrender was technically "unconditional" (because Roosevelt made that stupid pledge at the Casablanca Conference), but the condition was already agreed to by the US and Japan beforehand. So it was an unconditional surrender with a wink-wink.

>>133836869
>leaf

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The japs were already for surrendering but not in the terms that the americans wanted, with the wording being "unconditional surrender"

The soviets were already advancing on the japs and they were surrendering on that front too because they didn't have enough ammunitions or rations

The americans had spent millions and built a fucking huge complex that hundreds of thousands of people were involved with. They didn't want to end the war without using their new toy. Germans were already out of the list of possible candidates, soviets were also not a viable option.

So they went for the last country which they knew they could bomb and just say "Oh we did it because of the war, to save our troops"

The atomic bombs were absolutely unnecessary. Hundreds of thousands of CIVILIANS were killed just for fun

>>133836772
I think they idea behind it was re-education

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>>133836169
N-no

>>133834967
this post would be funnier in german

>>133832364
Don't
Nobody likes a busybody who argues with the teacher, you'll just look like a nerd

Every time remember doing the same, I start cringing

>>133836889
>technically
There is the key word, it was no unconditional no matter the gymnastics you are making

The americans decided to keep the emperor later on their own terms. Take from that what you want

>>133836690
Imagine you have to bully another person, and you have two options: (1) you send them a video of yourself in your garage hitting a punching bag some jabs, some hooks, some footwork - then you look at the camera and say: "This could happen to you" , or (2) you go outside, film yourself beating the shit out of some dude, stand next to the bloody mess and look at the camera and say "you're next"

Now which of the videos will you send?

>>133837284
>ent-hausung
Happy?

>>133837104
>tree

>>133837174
Yes!

>>133836720

Nonsense. The Japanese Navy had been almost totally destroyed. The US Navy had an effective blockade on Japan. The Japanese had already offered peace twice. It wasn't the atomic bombs that convinced the Japanese, but the Soviet Union entering the war on the same day the second atomic bomb got dropped.

"Another item on which I ventured to advise President Truman involved the Soviets’ intention to enter the Japanese war. I told him that since reports indicated the imminence of Japan’s collapse I deprecated the Red Army’s engaging in that war. I foresaw certain difficulties arising out of such participation and suggested that, at the very least, we ought not to put ourselves in the position of requesting or begging for Soviet aid. It was my personal opinion that no power on earth could keep the Red Army out of that war unless victory came before they could get in." - General Dwight D. Eisenhower

>>133832364
If America didn't nuke the Japs, Operation Downfall would happen. Basically a land invasion of the Japanese mainland. Americans thought that it would be a waste of resources, so they dropped the atom.

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>>133836201
それはユダヤ人です。

Official story: We didn't want to waste thousands of American lives invading Japan

Real story: We didn't want Russia taking Japan, spreading even more Communist influence.

>>133833819
Such blatant disregard for civilian targets is grounds for war crimes, bud.

>>133833226
Hahaha that internal shot cracked me up.

>>133837796
Not if you WIN the war

>>133837675
And both are valid answers
3M US troops dying would suck
North (commie) Japan vs South Japan would suck

>>133837796
Who's going to enforce it?

>>133837796
Millions of Germans were unnecessarily killed and a lot of Jewish "thinkers" were calling for the wholesale sterilization and genocide of all Germans as far back as 1940. War crimes don't apply when you're the winner.

>>133837796

Didn't say it wasn't. But, let's face it, aren't war crimes just for losers?

>>133837523
so not only did the americans saved the japanese from a long and brutal conventional warfare, but also com a communist invasion, god only knows how many deaths that would cause. one thing is for sure, the present day extremely developed Japan we know would not exist.

>>133832364
Was your teacher American?

>>133833810
I can not do this, since KGB follows me

>>133838390
>schindlers list in the USA
>muh japanese holocaust
I can see the plot already

>>133838390
Conscience, higher ethics and scruples are all beta cuck concepts too, amirite.

>>133838630
Fun fact: We actually had death camps in the southwestern USA full of nips. But we won, and muh Nanking, so no one cared.
>Eisenhower's Death Camps
>AIYA! IT WAS ANOTHER SUSHICAUST!

>>133832364

Teachers tend to be lefties.Media people too, journalists etc.

Lefties tend to be retarded. Teachers are retarded unless -maybe- they're good in their specific subject(s).

>>133838434

"Early in February, 1945, Mr. Roosevelt received a long dispatch from General MacArthur, outlining terms of peace that could be made with Japan. These terms amounted to unconditional surrender, except for maintaining the position of the Emperor and strongly urging that no concessions be made to Russia.

In March, 1945, a month after Yalta, the Swedish Minister to Japan was requested by Japanese Foreign Minister Shigemitsu to enlist his government to mediate peace for Japan. Nothing came from it and its only importance was the indication of Japan’s determination to make peace.

In July, 1945, again in the hope for peace, the Japanese ministry proposed to send Prince Konoye to Moscow. Japan naturally needed a neutral nation as intermediary and felt that ostensibly she still enjoyed neutral relations with the Soviet Union. On July 13th the Russians were notified of the Konoye mission. Moscow replied on July 18, refusing his mission" - Herbert Hoover, Freedom Betrayed

Had the US accepted Japan's offers before the Soviet Union got involved, there would have been no North Korea and possibly no Communist China, although that could have gone either way.

>>133832364
Consider it a life lesson. Teachers and all authority figures, are just as capable of being complete Fuck wits, as anyone else.

>>133832364
WW2 bombardments were used to destroy the civilian population and break their courage.
Targeting military is pointless when every single civilian is a future soldier.

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>>133832460
>not Riko