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>what you have between your legs doesn't determine your gender
I want off this ride
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Chromosomes are on a spectrum
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>>133776666
Tell me what gender some malformed intersex person is with their anatomy.
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>>133776666
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>his face when being bald or having hair is influenced by genetics
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>>133776666
nice digits famalam

we should legally be allowed to publicly execute these people
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>>133776666
Jordan Peterson BTFO this bullshit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dbkJv6566c
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>>133776666
The first thing a "geneticist" learns is how little they actually know about the science of genetics, so if somebody tries to make an argument from authority because they're a "geneticist" you can safely ignore them.
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It's funny because she specifically said that they're not genders and this retard is too dumb to fucking read.
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>>133776666
>I want off this ride
divine punishment

we fucked up and this is what we get for it.
sit it out and hope for the best
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>>133776839
Intersex people should honestly be the only humans allowed to adopt a third gender or be trans or whatever, as that is an actual, scientific condition and not pure hearsay. It's a shame they get lumped together with delusional snowflakes.
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>>133776839
A mistake.
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>>133776666
But the hair on top of your head says a lot about your genetics...
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>>133776666
Who is the leftist shitskin being rude to /ourgirl/ what if /pol/ learned all about that guy? Man how the SJW would cry if /pol/ defended Laci.
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>>133776666
>ignores biological sex based off of X and Y chromosomes
>geneticist
I think this guy took Genetics as his one Science course for his History degree, and claims to understand Genetics. I bet DNA replication kicked his ass
>like, Okazaki Fragments sounds like a chiller band name, or something from Dr. Who
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>>133776839
thats called a defect sweetie
>hurrr you cant say humans have 23 chromosomes
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>>133777234
This. God only knows. I'm in the last year of my degree, and I'm taking Biochem currently.
Now that I'm in the senior-level courses the constant phrase that is mentioned is "we don't know exactly how this [BLANK] works, but we believe it to be..."
One thing about the sciences that I have learned is how little we actually know
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>>133778241
Sweetieposting is the meme I love to hate.
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>>133776839
A clear, tangible, physical aberration and deformity, distinct from some guy who is normal save for belief that his soul is an androgynous ent or whatever the fuck. Tell me why I should play pretend with you, dip.
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>>133776666
>as the hair on top of your head
Forensic crime scene detectives BTFO
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Who wants to bet this guy isn't a geneticist.

Same fucking deal with that nurse in favor of circumcision claiming he was a doctor.
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>>133777888

Yeah, researching Zeru now. Seems he's a Crazy Cat Lady Jew with seemingly no science experience or education. He won a $500 scholarship for Jewish studies.
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>>133776839
>Chromosonal abnormalities are genders
I sexually identify as downs syndrome
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>>133776666
Time to start killing these people
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>>133778304
I'm not telling you to play pretend, their feelings don't matter. It's just that there are other things you can look at to determine an answer when you have anomalies like that.
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Why is laci green acting so different?
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>>133776666
he's right. the all have the same XX or XY chromasomes
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>>133778453
>nurse
>he

these people are literal ultra cucks
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>>133776666
>the hair on your head isn't genetic
wait, what?
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>>133778946
Being a non gay male nurse is actually a pretty sweet gig.

4 year degree and an exam for 50-60k starting. The demand is really high, and people want male nurses since they aren't incompetent shitheads who just talk all day INSTEAD OF DRAWING BLOOD SAMPLES

t. pharmacist
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>>133776666
We were supposed to travel stars this century. Instead we are arguing what gender is a human with a penis.

https://youtu.be/4MzQSmwkFNc
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He's right. Even if you have a (((dick))) you're still a woman if you're XX in your cells
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>>133778650
Except the argument is that whatever's between your legs determines your gender, yet there is an entire group of people that doesn't apply to.
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>>133776839
A hermaphrodite is a genetic anomaly with almost all cases being infertile.
Without the ability to pass on genetic traits from sexual interaction with other genders the entire argument becomes pointless.
The biology of gender/sex and its entire existence is for procreation not as a way to identify oneself.
The entire thought of a non-binary culture is counter to the evolution and continuation of mankind if it pairs two biological types together.
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>>133778827
Why, that would make us an asexual species, wouldn't it?
Think, Leaf. We do not have all the SAME XX or XY Chromosomes
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>>133779167
>entire group
>let's pander to a minuscule amount of the population
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>>133779326
This.
The concept of 3 or more different sexes to reproduce is too costly and carries to much risk for a species to produce.
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why is this fucking tranny shit so common now

the vast majority of people have never encountered a tranny in their lives, why do we have this shit forcefed down our fucking throats?

Also I think Laci Green is extremely brave for turning her backs on her feminist cunt friends like this
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>>133779487
*reproduce
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>>133776666
Haha yeah right the difference is the hair on my head grows longer and the thing between my legs does the opposite.
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>>133776666
is that a troll? both gender and hair is determined by genetics
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ITT: idiots who have no understanding about psychology. There is a difference between sex, and gender.

Sex: The biological component you are born with. There are 2 sexes, male and female. Males have penises, and females have vaginas.

Gender: The traits that you display based on your sex. For example a masculine trait would be more aggression and physical awareness, or a female trait would be more tenderness/caring.

What if someone has male body parts (Sex), but predominantly female traits (gender)?
This is when the issue arises.
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>>133779491
the tranny shit is actually what makes me believe in malicious conspiracy theories rather than that the West is being fugged by a series of unfortunate decisions. the shilling is insane
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>>133779931
no, gender was just a euphemism for English puritans who refused to say "sex". no other language has it.
traits are not indicative of gender and never will be. you're not going to be female if you behave like a girl, just a mentally ill male
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Language subversion by Marxist anon. Probably their greatest accomplishment of the modern era. They've created enough confusion between gender and sex , making the lgbt issue way more confusing than it should be.
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>>133779931
>What if someone has male body parts (Sex), but predominantly female traits (gender)?
Then they're a pussy
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>>133779931
Sex: actual science
Gender: made up bullshit that can be artificially altered to suit anyone's purpose

ok
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>>133779491
Unfortunately the answer is kind of simple people are followers "trans-trender" is becoming popular and gets attention.
Being cis-normal is boring in their eyes and is being demonized to get more attention.
The saddest part is many will take hormones and mutilate themselves in this process.
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is this pro or against transgenders
this could just as easily be a "it doesn't matter if you turned your dick inside out, that Y chromosome don't lie and neither do I"
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>>133779931
>What if someone has male body parts (Sex), but predominantly female traits (gender)?

Then they're a male with a dysfunctional brain.
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gender isn't something written in stone you absolute retards. thinking up an idea doesn't make that idea a fact.
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>>133776839
.05% of the populations; nobody cares. They're exactly what you said; intersexual or hermaphodite or if they want transgender, that's fine. Everyone else in the "T" club is mentally ill
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>>133780819
Stalin would have put you in front of a firing squad just for writing this
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>>133779931
>based on your sex
Wew. I think you swung, whiffed, and threw the bat over the fence and out of the park on that one.
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>>133779167
Ridiculously rare exceptions don't make the rule any less valid, retard.
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>>133779931
And in this post some one completely over looks the important link to the two.
Masculine traits and feminine traits lead to attraction between the biological sexes the driving force behind our very existence.
To deny or attempt to alter this is destructive by nature.
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>>133779931
>What if someone has male body parts (Sex), but predominantly female traits (gender)?
That's called (you).
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>>133776839
Male or female. A person with a functioning SRY is male, like a Klinefelter's male.
A person with no SRY is female, like a Turner's Female or an XY female, if the SRY is translated away from a Y.
t. Biologist
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>>133776839

> physical genitals don't determine gender
> point out physical characteristics of intersex genitals
> 'what gender is this?'

So gender is linked to biology.
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>>133776666
So a lot, then?
You can identify a person's gender by analizing their hair
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>>133776666

>1 post by this id

Slide thread. Sage and move on folks.
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>>133779931
That's why the word faggot was invented, faggot. BTW we conquered our own continent while your grand pappy was suckin crown dick, how does that make you feel?
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>>133780489
>>133780548
>>133780756
>>133781036
>>133781058
>>133781067

But gender IS a thing, its crazy how y'all just plainly deny that it's not. No one is 100% male or 100% female. The tweet that OP posted is correct in saying that your private parts have nothing to do with your gender. It is all physiological.
Everyone has some male and female traits. This is why you get soft males or males that aren't really physically, and conversely you get tomboys or females that act very masculine and aggressive. It is a spectrum. We label everyone "Male" or "Female" when they have more masculine or more feminine traits. This is all good up until someone has more masculine traits, but their equipment is female. Or vice versa. What now? do they continue with their life? or do they pretend that they have feminine traits? or do they get a sex change?

/pol make it out to be some simple clear cut issue. Its more complex than that.

Source: am psych student at UCL.
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>>133777322
I caught that too. Literally agreeing with him and he's just looking for someone to be self-righteous to. Same shit happens on /pol/ way too often so you know those faggots are here as well. Or at least people like them.
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>>133779931
Until the 1960's, "gender" was equal in definition to sex and had no formal usage outside of grammar. It wouldn't ever be used by any sane person in the way you're referring until a marxist sexologist by the name of john money published his completely falsified study on the Reiner twins, a tragic and evil experiment which led to the life long suffering and eventual suicide of young David Reiner, a boy who dr money attempted to raise as a girl, in order to orove that gender is different from biological sex and result of societal expectations. His experiment was a complete failure as David never "succeeded" at feeling and acting as a girl does, despite recieving hormone treatment in adolescence without any knowledge of his true sex.

Dr money also coined the term "gender role".

So your entire worldview of sexuality is based on the perversions of a dead, demented pedophile who earned dozens of rewards by mainstream acadamia for ruining a childs life and destroying a family.
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>what you've got between your legs says about as much about your gender or genetics as the hair on the top of your head
So, literally the chromosomes XX and XY found in said hair?
Did this imbecile just proved his own argument wrong?
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>>133776666

1. Appeal to Authority is not an argument.
2. His second post really makes me doubt his self-proclaim credentials of being a geneticist.
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>>133778946
Dumbass.
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>>133781957
Money was also Jewish.
What a (((coincidence))), goyim!
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>>133781925
>No one is 100% male
You've never met Steven Seagall faggot
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>>133778946

Male nurses get a lot of respect and are desired for many reasons. For example, all the jailbait throwing themselves for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE_TiQ1E0UI
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>>133781925
My objection ( >>133781036 ) was based on the fact that the poster claimed that gender traits were based on sex, which is equivalent to your point that private parts have nothing to do with gender.

I think a better clarification of what people mean by "sex" and "gender" would be "organs" (as a manifestation of chromosomes) and "behavior." One is physical, the other psychological: one natural, the other a product of human creation.
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>>133776839

what chromosomes they got?
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>>133779931
that just means theyre a faggot, anon. its not some scientific concept
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>>133779491
Because gays got marriage so they need a new avenue of [that term for showing everyone how progressive you are].
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>>133781925
psychology isnt an actual science. never use source: psychology student again you cunt
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>>133782172
Proofs? Big if true
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>>133781957
Yes, we all know about the Reimers, this is exactly what led to the biological gender movement in psychology. You literally proved my point. He was born a male, however his penis was accidentally damaged when he was a baby. So Money had him undergo surgery and attain an artificial vagina. He was brought up a female. He ended up committing suicide, because his traits were predominantly masculine. In the reports, he says he likes playing sports and he was aggressive to other girls.

Now use this example on someone who was born a male, but has female traits. David Reimer was born male, but made to act as a female, whilst he had male traits. Someone born a male, who has female traits? now thats an issue that we know happens
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>>133782079
He read the wiki so he's basically an expert and you should shut your fucking mouth.
>he said with heavy sarcasm
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He must be one of those "intellectuals".
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>>133781925
Do you even know the definition of physiological you larping med faggot?
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>>133782336
whether you act like a woman or not isnt a real thing because women and men dont all act the same. its stupid and self defeating in its own definitions.
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>>133782841
>Now use this example on someone who was born a male, but has female traits

then he's mentally ill
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>>133781925
I never said that there wasn't a difference.
Counter traits to your sex is detrimental not only for procreation but mentally.
But encouraging those with extreme trait differences to "change" their sex is madness. There is clearly a chemical imbalance but the idea of trying to understand this better is bigoted, but we can mutilate them and give them hormones for the rest of their lives and that's acceptable.
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>>133776666
The world could be fixed overnight if only everyone always did exactly the opposite of what Jews wanted.
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>>133776666

>laci green
>those digits
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>>133776666
He's right, genetics are key to hair colour and gender.

>there are 2 genders male and female, determined solely by genetics.
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>>133782841
>Now use this example on someone who was born a male, but has female traits.
See that's still not how it works though, just because you have the traits of the opposite sex doesn't mean you are the opposite sex

if I grow up with a black family and act exactly the same as all black people that doesn't make me fucking black does it?

your identity isn't something you can change based on feeling
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>>133776666
That person is actually correct OP.
That's why you don't talk about gender.
Talk about biological sex.
Cultural Marxism has successfully hijacked the word "gender"
Strike it from your vocabulary.
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>>133782827
He was at least a crypto.
The nose knows.
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>>133782841
You completely ignored everything i just posted. All your gender studies nonsense is rooted in the work of an academic hack whose ideas, ideas that your worldview is based on, directly led to torment and death. Gender was not seperate from sex until doctor money. It didn't become so until his central argument behind the seperation of the words, the argument that gender is a social construct, was "proven" by his "work" on the reiner twins. All of your disgusting, destructive, parasitic ideas is based on one big, fat, awful, murderous lie.
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>>133783379
fucking idiot, "acting black"? are you stupid, because you're sounding stupid right now. If you're white and grow up in India, you will speak Punjab and act just like the rest of them. Nurture is a thing.
>ur identity isn't something you can change based on feeling
your identity IS the traits that you display to the outside world. If you are black or white, or Asian or Arab, it doesn't matter because race doesn't accommodate any psychological traits, only physiological ones. So, your identity isn't what you look like, or your genetics, its your psychological traits.
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>>133783120
He was born male and had male traits no mental illness.
Born male thinks he's a female mental illness.
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>>133779931
>this is when the issue arises

exactly, the issue of mental health
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>>133783412
gender isn't real
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>>133781169
is it possible to have an XXY where the Y becomes the Barr body in half the cells?
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>>133783833
>fucking idiot, "acting black"? are you stupid, because you're sounding stupid right now. If you're white and grow up in India, you will speak Punjab and act just like the rest of them.

YES that doesn't fucking change your ethnicity into a fucking Indian just because you have all the traits of an Indian person, thanks for proving my point, just like having the traits of a female doesn't turn a male to a female

Identity isn't solely based off of psychological traits so all of the other shit you said is wrong
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>>133776666
>>133776666
Trans are sick people that need to be put into a mental institution. Parents that force children into sex changes should be sterilized & have their kids taken away forever AND institutionalized.

Next they will be telling us that their female cat is really a boy & they are going to pay for a sex change on their pet.
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>>133779125
>4 year degree and an exam for 50-60k starting.
Not here in CA. Buddy of mine got his in 2 years and pulls around $70k a year.
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This is somewhat true. We surgically removed Ottos testicles while he was sedated
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>>133776666
Everyone has their own gender. No two are alike, so there are as many genders as there are people. Each gender should be named after the one person who is that gender. There is more biological support for this theory than the 57 or 63 or whatever number the insane leftists throw out. There are NO genetic markers to identify these 57 different genders. They exist only n the minds of the truly deluded.
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>>133776666
>What you have between your legs doesn't determine your genetics

NIGGA WHAAAT?
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>>133776666
>male-patterned baldness
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>>133776839
A physical and statistical anomaly that makes up less than 1% of people?
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>american geneticists
lmao
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>>133776666
His whole argument is phenotype don't predict genotype which is true but it's a stupid thing to say. Yes I can cut my dick off and my genotype says I should have a dick. still 90% of the time someone has the genotype for a dick they are gonna have a dick. What do you expect from a antifacist communist though. It's the same argument they use for niggers
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>>133784232
yeah honestly the only scientifically tenable positions on gender are basically there is NO gender (not infinity genders, literally no gender), or 2 genders.
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>>133776666
Let us find out where "doublestraps" Got their degree/ where they work "as a geneticist" and shame the fuck out of ALL institutions that hire such people.

> Also that shitty attempt a justification with the hair comment...
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>>133779167
> People with an incredibly rare genetic deformity. Are a group of people that function as a community and all know each-other.....

What the fuck are you talking about?
You can't conflate people with a type of rare disease or abnormality with ehnic groups or homosexuals. It's absurd.

By your logic, people that have cancer or Alzheimer's disease are somehow a functioning community.
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>>133783610

I'm surprised an ethics committee actually approved this experiment.
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>>133784800
Not to mention the abnormality renders them infertile so the abnormality ends in that same generation.
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>>133784888
Don't be. It's the current year, even back then
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>>133785109

It seems pretty fucked up though.

>Whoops! We totally fucked up this kids penis in a completely unnecessary surgical procedure
>Let's raise him as a girl instead!

What kind of sick, twisted people would think this is a good idea? What kind of people would think slicing a baby's dick at birth is a good idea?
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>>133785500
The circumcision actually wasn't at birth, the fucking retarded doctors thought it would be necessary to treat a urinary problem that both the twins were experiencing a few months after birth. Brian, the David's twin brother, never got treatment for his urinary problem after his brothers penis was destroyed (BY BEING BURT OFF WITH FUCKING ELECTRICITY), and his symptoms totally disappeared shortly afterwards.

And people wonder why Americans don't trust their doctors.
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>>133781925
>No one is 100% male or 100% female.
The fug?
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>>133778453
I want to see his degree and where he got it from.
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>>133781925
>psych student
>University College London
>London
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>>133779079
>>133778412
>>133782019
Regardless what that faggot is saying about gender, he meant that hair doesn't have genetic material (or so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt), which is true - the keratin portion of hair, which is most of it, doesn't have any genetic markings. The root of the hair has cells that can be used to identify the person, though.

So if you cut a single strand of someone's hair, it's useless for genetic identification. If you pull it, it can be used.
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>>133776666

Wew lad. Top geneticising.
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>>133786534
Fucking kek
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>>133776666
Transgenerism is a mental disorder
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>>133778301

Chekd for you mate
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>>133785500
And by the way, the whole ordeal with that kid was enough of a tragedy to make circumcision a rarity in CANADA, but the shit kicking retard Americans were to busy being degenerates to take notice of what happens to their own people
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>>133786707
Read this shit everyone.
This is what awaits the trannie on the other side.
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>>133776666
I wonder who this poster is...
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>>133787074
>Judacia

What is that even?
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>>133785929
>>133786864

For some reason American goyim are completely stuck on the idea of circumcision. That's a pretty shitty thing to do though, especially if they knew that the operation didn't need to be done (as the other twin didn't receive it).
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>>133787074
I just thought the same thing. I think I'm going to find out and shit on him.
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>>133787074
it's a fake /pol/ account
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>>133776666 (checked)
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>>133786513
Not true Mitochondrial DNA test can be preformed on just hair without roots it can be used to determine sex race and family lineage.
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>>133787169
They didn't know that it didn't need to be done because Brian didn't heal on his own until after his brother's accident and because the docs were careless incompetent morons
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>>133776666
Women and mens sports teams why?
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>>133776839
The exception that proves the rule
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http://pansta.com/PandaUserMedia/1245923904

HOLY KEK... Look at this guy hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

>cat
>balding
>knitting

wew
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>>133787050
Thats not even a bad one.
Surgeons don't always just create a skin pocket, and create superficial labia around it. Some surgeons will do a sigmoid vaginoplasty. Sigmoid as is sigmoid colon.
They will surgically excise a portion of the colon, close off one end, and implant it into the patient's pelvis to create a faux vaginal cavity.

When things go wrong with this procedure its a complete nightmare. And they smell.
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>>133776666
>Adam's apple

BTFO
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>>133777119
People with digits?
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Gender: Social construct.
Sex: What you have between your legs.

Why is this so hard to understand? Protip: you don't have to acknowledge the concept of this divide to understand what the words mean.
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>>133786707
what in the fuck is dilation
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>>133788044
You don't want to know
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>>133788044
Strap on anon here come the posts about it.
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>>133787946
Gender: Sex
Sex: what you have between your legs

the definition was changed by culturual marxism and english is the only language that separates sex and gender, you're delusional
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This guy is peak kike.
>pic related
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>>133787946
You're still wrong. Sex is in your genes, its literally a genetic expression, and the gentiles follow from that. A XX woman with a medically created faux penis is not a male. She cannot ever become an XY male with a real functioning penis.
The left doesn't adhere to a solid definition of biological sex. These are the same people who believe there is no real difference between male and female brains. The same people who argue that men are only taller and stronger because they play more as children.

People don't go in for gender reassignment. They call the procedure sex reassignment, but you cannot change your sex. Having an operation doesn't change your DNA, nor does it give you functioning reproductive organs of the opposite sex.
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>>133776666
why can't they just be trannies or gays why do they have to change the definitions of words and force them on us
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Gross
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>>133788384
Way to miss the point you dumb fuck.
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>>133788044
You really (REALLY) don't want to fucking know.
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>>133788615
Your point is wrong.
Sex is not what you have between your legs.

Don't give any credibility to mentally ill Critical Theory shills.
Gender itself is derived from sex. The reason why we have man and woman is because the sexes are male and female. These roles are informed by biology, and to say they are entirely social construct is categorically false. It is so outrageous in fact that one could claim its a conspiracy theory.
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>>133788044
well ... imagine having to forcibly inject a "medical dildo" into your "vagina" and that on a daily basis for all the days to come. Otherwise that thing closes, cause its basicaly a big wound.
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>>133776839
>malformed intersex person
you answered your own question
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>>133776666
pic
>unless your hair is blue, then it says a bit about both
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What the fuck happened to Laci Green? She was a total SJW like six months ago
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>>133789922
She is now /ourgirl/
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>>133788044
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>>133788958
>>133790151
kek what a joke having to dildo yourself three times a day on top of chopping your dick off, really makes you think about the type of people that would that to themselves
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>>133779931
someone gets it
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>>133779167
Simple.

The presence of an anomaly doesn't remove the fact of the normal existing.

Intersex Transexual born haemaphrodites or Eunuchs are their own catergory.
They are nothing to with Transgender idiots.
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>>133779931
Imbalanced hormones and neurochemicals or improper rearing, usually will be the latter than the former.
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>>133779326
It's actually the ultimate destination for neo-liberal individualism.

The triumph of the self and ego over logic and reason to be harnessed and packaged by controlled consumerism. A commodity to be acquired.
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>>133780567
It's the race to be
>Different.
and achieve a self-centred version of being a
>minority

It's insane.
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>>133776839
Gender isn't real. Simply put, there are males and females, and genetic fuckups. Your sex (which actually exists) is determined at birth and can't be changed. 'Gender' was a term coined by John (((Money))), a child molester who pretended to do research.
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>>133787309
Ahhh kill it with fire!!!
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>>133778301
Um is the mean ol hatey watey stayin up latey to get iratey
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>>133780137
No, gender was used for language, i.e. grammatical gender. Yes ago government documents asked one's sex and not their gender. Transgenders used to be called transsexuals, which was more accurate since they wanted to cross from one sex to the other by taking hormones and getting reassignment surgery.

The other group is transvestites, who are basically LARPers. Most of today's transtrenders are LARPers and ought to be called transvestites.
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>>133781925
Simple question:

If gender is social, what is it exactly that a male sex who thinks he's a woman, believes a woman to be? He must have a concept of what a womna is for him to feel he is one?
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>>133793749
Where did he get gender from?

I am amazed that a botched and ultimately unsuccesful experiment forms the basis.

Watch the Transgender kids documentray about gender dysphoris; the leafs shut down the one expert.
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The rate of technological innovation has been killing society all over the world. I'm honestly kind of glad that sciences are corrupted by liberal fundamentalism. It will slow things down a lot.
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>>133794456

Gender was used by linguists to discus grammatical gender, such as that in German, French, Spanish.

A psychologist, German I recall, coined the term in the 60s or 70s and it caught on in the 90s. Prior to that they were called transsexuals. Feminists liked 'transgender' because it conformed to their fantastical ideas that sex roles were in no way based on biology but were entirely driven by culture. 'Gender' allowed them to bamboozle the public by replacing 'sex' and thus the association of sex with biology and genetics.
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>>133783950
No, only inactivated X become Barr bodies
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>>133795098
And the irony is that many feminists are apalled by modern Transgender men-female. Witness Germaine Greer say some BASED things for once.

Check this supposed intellectual argument, I would love a based science person to debate this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWDhU-tgxxU

>THE ABSOLUTE STATE of this.
>Olympics cannot determine sex. Legalised gender plus testosterone measurements only.

Horrendous
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>>133793590
Its scary to think isn't it, some how such narcissism can exist.
Only time will see how this thought proses works itself out, the need to exist is strong but is it greater then the need for acceptance.
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>>133796073
The irony is that for all the /pol abuse Muslims and Third World get, they have lived with Intersex people for centuries giving them a certain place without being cucked. Have your place, know your role.

They will be the ones to point out this absurdity; the liberals will eat themselves.
You're seeing it now with old feminists being no-platformed for being transphobic.
Now imagine a refugee woman who's faced gang-rape telling the liberals that no, these transgender LARPERS are mad.
What will the liberals do? Side with the man who thinks he's like this refugee woman?

immigrants from conservative migrant families are appalled at this insanity and will fight it.

I am old left; i know what i know and what i don't know.
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>>133796073
And aye, such narcissism is incredible;
>Trans:
"No I don't have an issue, the world does. And i won't rest until the world not only accepts my narcissist neuroses but I will force them to enjoy it."
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWrQ93x4huE
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every living cell in your body is determined by what gender you are.

you cannot change this. you can have hormone replacement therapy and still be genetically identified as the sex you were born as.

it's all in the head, it's a mental disorder.
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>>133795098
It wasn't a german psychologist but a new zealand sexologist by the name of dr money, highlight my previous posts if you want to know more
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>>133776839

freak
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>>133777107
I was going to say, at the end of the day this is still a true and red pilled statement no?
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>>133796540
And so we have the battle of ego of self VS ego of another.
Regardless of the victor I don't see a very promising future without a good measure of reason being interjected.
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>>133777119
Along with the trannies
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>>133797566
Aye, aye.

Reason will be subsumed into feeling and identity.

>No Logic For Old Men
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>>133797230
Olympics have already fallen to this shit
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>>133776666
TIL from a geneticist that xx and xy don't predict whether or not you have a penis. American education must really be bad, I managed to get an MS and all my biology classes since elementary school said otherwise.
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>>133776666
calm down ultra satan. some times when im driving i got a gas station coffee cup in between my legs and other times i got a beer can. i still got a dick so im a man either way
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>>133776666
How do I turn my 5 year old nephew into a tranny while his dad is in jail?
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My god look at this faggot.

https://www.instagram.com/doublestraps/

https://twitter.com/doublestraps?protected_redirect=true
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>>133780567
>The saddest part is many will take hormones and mutilate themselves in this process

It's only sad if you give a fuck. Let them destroy themselves. Serves them right for being so fucking stupid.
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>>133798350
>If you ignore it, it'll go away
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>>133776666
If they can say shit like this, there's nothing they can't pretend is true (and enforce their delusions on the population under penalty of losing job, imprisonment, even justified violence)
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>>133776815

If these characteristics aren't hard-wired, then we are under absolutely zero obligation to tolerate them.
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>>133797843
I hope that will be the case, if for nothing more then to win the infighting.
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>>133795795

This is because many transexuals believed in the brain-body mismatch, which ran contrary to feminist thinking. Transgender was used to bridge the gap. Trannies would argue gender and no longer brain-body mismatch and feminists would no longer call them "blokes in a dress". Of course you'll always have some who disagree w/ the compromise, such as Greer.
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>>133798350
We all make choices and we must live by or die by them this is true.
But mental illness can revoke someone's ability to make proper choices the fact that we have those who enable them to make bad choices is terrible.
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>>133776839
Gender identity isn't important for animals
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I sent the snowflake kike a direct message and he blocked me. Anyone want to go find him and harass him IRL?
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>>133797308

That may be up to dispute. I was mentioning psychiatrist John F. Oliven, born in Germany, of Columbia University who coined the term transgender in his 1965 reference work Sexual Hygiene and Pathology.

Who did so isn't so important, but why it was changed from transsexual to transgender is. The outcome hoodwinked the public into thinking sex (biology & genetics) has no affect and it's entire culture.

The irony of course is if identity is entirely cultural then all identities such as race and sexual orientation are too. Thus, Pence's sexual counseling of homos is a legitimate course of action because people are malleable, entirely formed by society. Further, claims of transracialism by people like Rachel Dolezal are also legitimate because it conforms w/ the logic of "it's all cultural".
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>>133799693
How to circumvent twitter blocks
http://archive.is/ZfKOR
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>>133799403

Most of the current batch of trannies aren't even people with serious mental illness, they're people following a trend. That's why it was once rare (serious mental illness tends to be relatively rare) and is now common. If they fuck themselves up trying to be cool and hip, I couldn't care less.
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>>133797956
>TIL from a geneticist that xx and xy don't predict whether or not you have a penis

The only way for this outcome to happen is due to a birth defect; something went haywire. Defects are not a sex in and of themselves.
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>>133798422

You apparently missed the point.
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>>133799796
Oh I didn't know that, thanks for all the info, theres tons of good starting points for research in this thread for curious anons to sort through.
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>>133776666
hair can actually tell you alot about someone..... it's literally dna
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>>133776666
first off: sick digits

second off:
>unironically forgetting that hair DNA identifies sexual organ disposition.

fucking progressives...
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>>133778946
>said the mudshit
Are you the kind of retard that thinks nurses are less important than doctors or something?
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>>133776666
He's correct. Men and women have different hair.
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>>133776666

>signed, a geneticist

Argument from authority fallacy. Doesn't address argument made at all. Opinion disgarded.
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>>133798935
Thanks. I think you'll find many feminists agree with Greer but can't admit it.

You know things are mental when right-wing Rod Liddle defends Lesbo feminist Julie Bindel because she's attacked for being Trans-phobic.
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>>133776839
A product of sin
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>>133799909
Trans-trenders rarely get the operation or hormones but the mentally ill ones do.
I'm not saying you wrong to not care about a group of followers but they as a group are hurting people, some of them far to young to be making those kinds of decisions.
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>>133797956
>TIL from a geneticist that xx and xy don't predict whether or not you have a penis.

Following on. He's only correct in one way: Chromosomes do not predict anything. They are not fortune tellers or weather forecasters. They determine; they do not predict. If you have an Y chromosome you are built to have primary male sex characteristics such as testes, a penis, etc. If you were born without it's a defect. Your Y chromosome also determine secondary sex characteristics.
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>>133787688
>>133798302
>>133788368

the pantheon has a new member: Zeru, incel personified and eternal bitch of Kek
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>>133799796
How do these freaks then say:

>Gender is social
>I feel this way I was born like this

Surely contradictory? Or is it their argument that:

>I feel this way, I have since i was born this way, therefore all evident notions of this/that do not apply to the way that I FEEL>
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>>133799995
Indeed, these defects have been accepted for centuries throughout the world.

It didn't lead to gender fluidity or this insane LARPING
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If it doesn't determine your gender then how can feel dysphoria?
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>>133800802
BASED documentARY:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x58s24i

>tfw you are an expert helping children and your therapy works wonders for parents and children and the leafs shut you down.
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>>133800732
>I think you'll find many feminists agree with Greer but can't admit it.

You're absolutely correct. Hold a different opinion and you're treated like a pariah.

Most of the defences of Bindle have been based on speech rights and objections to no platforming. I don't know of any of his defenders on the right who align with her ideologically. That said, strange things happen, such as the alliance of sex-negative feminists and Evangelical Christians over their opposition porn. I suppose some here would also align with the sex-negative feminists.
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>>133786490
lmao this
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>>133778946
Dunno man, I've heard stories that male nurses are literally swimming in pussy because every female coworker doesn't want to lose to someone else so they all end up wanting the d.
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>>133801209
This fucking point!!!!

>Man to woman
i feel like a woman
>But you're a man
No that is a social construct definition
>Then what is a woman?
It's fluid and a construct
>So you're not a man and you want to become a woman. You want to become something that you yourself admit doesn't exist?
No, women exist, you can be a woman even if you were born with male sex chromosomes
>How?
It's complicated; Trust me.
>So wait, you feel that you are a woman? How so?
You are transphobic i am no-platforming you.
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almost as though he's barely a geneticist.
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>>133793948
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>>133801571
Aye, true and they have to, as the old-school feminists are still scared of fighting this fight.

They must; for the sake of mothers and women everywhere. Before they fought some BASED battles many would disagree with, but they have to fight this or else sex will be eliminated and then everyone can universally treat people like shit.

>Mental masturbation for a society with too much freedom, resources and full stomachs
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Ayoo so senpai, i'm a cis fucking white male aight but muh left arm is female kay? All this means is that i can give a man a handjob and its totally not gay but only im my left hand does it.
Oh and if you disrespect this 100% natural and totally not insane gender than you are a bigot and are oppressing me.
ps. please nuke NY
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>>133776666
Well, technically if a guy has his dick surgically removed then he's still a guy, a mentally-ill, mutilated guy.
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>>133801209
>>133801660
That delusion is the only thing standing between a mentally confused eunuch and a noose. He's clinging to it literally for dear life. Hard to speak sense into someone with that state of mind.
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>>133801209

Good observation. Since gender isn't based on biological sex (their ideological foundation) you can be a woman without breasts and a vulva; it's entirely cultural after all. There's no need for the public to finance transition therapies and surgeries because you don't have a medical condition; you have a cultural one, and doctors don't fix that. Just call yourself a woman and eureka you are. If you want to wear dresses and bras that's simply your choice to conform to stereotypes.
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>>133801351
Not only in Canada
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/long-shadow-cast-by-psychiatrist-on-transgender-issues-finally-recedes-at-johns-hopkins/2017/04/05/e851e56e-0d85-11e7-ab07-07d9f521f6b5_story.html?utm_term=.fc0b462ad8f7
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>>133802740
Let's archive it
>https://washingtonpost com/national/health-science/long-shadow-cast-by-psychiatrist-on-transgender-issues-finally-recedes-at-johns-hopkins/2017/04/05/e851e56e-0d85-11e7-ab07-07d9f521f6b5_story.html?utm_term=.fc0b462ad8f7
https://archive.is/oTELq
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>>133802782
Thanks norbot
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>>133799862
Its not even just that he actually protected his tweets so I suspect no one here is going to be viewing his tweets unless they're a follower and confirmed.
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The hair on top of your head has LOTS to do with your genetics moron

>what is male pattern baldness
>what is female pattern baldness
>what is hair growth differences
>what is a receeding hairline
jesus christ I want to DIE
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>>133802622
They all have it; they can't answer it. Everything becomes subjective. Philosophically they don't have any basis to justify their neuroses other than
>Cos i say so; therefore it's MY truth and I will force you to change your view.
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>>133803816
Don't we need you to fight this insanity.

>In b4 they shutdown 4chan by forcing us to reveal who we all are IRL.
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>>133777358
This
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>>133776666
two plus two is four.
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>>133801209
>>133801660
People are actually starting to realise that. Now the current way to get around this is by denying the existence of gender as a whole by saying it's a social construct and construing transition as entirely a "choice", transtrenders if you will. They entirely deny dysphoria as having anything to do with transgenderism, stating it's a choice, giving them the added benefit of removing themselves from the "mentally ill" catagory and exempting themselves from potential treatment discussions. It's a fucking mess because these people are being prescribed hormones and obviously aren't doing well when they barely realise how much effort it takes to pass as the opposite gender (voice/bones if MtF, top surgery if FtM) and obviously aren't going to do well as half-way freaks.

t. MtF who spends way too much time around LGBT groups.
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>>133776666
it doesn't.
if a dude get's a gender reassignment surgery, that doesn't make him a woman.
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>>133804623
>gender reassignment surgery
never understood this fucking meme, it's always been SRS to me (sexual reassignment surgery) but now progressives push it as gender reassignment

if genitals have nothing to do with gender, how the fuck does cutting them off "reassign" your gender then?
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>>133776666
>Casually check his profile
>he's Jewish

Every time
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>>133804780
You don't need consistency when you have (((le current year))) on your side
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>>133781925
>reddit spacing
>"source:" not "t."

>>>/Leddit/
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>>133804477
How long until you an hero because of depression?
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>>133806045
Though I do have a healthy share of mental problems depression is luckily not one, too much on my mind to be depressed atm. Will be alright if I can get a career kicked off here in a bit, prolly once my transition is over. Failing that, gimme bout 5 years.
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>>133795795
>HOW TO THINK
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>>133776839
>Tell me what gender some malformed intersex person is with their anatomy.

Either a defective male or a defective female depending on the exact circumstances.
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>>133776666
Doesn't hair have DNA tho
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>>133795795
>a man with long hair and a faggy voice claiming to be an elite athlete because he won a race against women

I truly cannot wait until the next olympic games when tranny men crush the women's world records in every athletic sport.
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>gender and sex are separate

It's almost as if the stuff between you legs produce hormones that impact your brain and thus your behavior in statistically significant patterns.
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>>133807243

Hormones are just a social construct, man.
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>>133804780

sexual reassignment surgery - exactly this.

And it isn't transgender, it's transexual. If you a woman who wants to be a man, and more than merely LARPing one, then you are crossing from one sex to another.
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>>133776666
>What you've got between your legs says about as much about your gender or genetics as the hair on top of your head
So, a lot?
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>>133776666
does this so called geneticist know that you can read dna (which will tell you xx or xy) from your hair?
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>>133776839
That's like saying human heads are on a spectrum because some people are born with two. It's just a genetic fuck up like your Down syndrome
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>>133805363
You've cracked the case
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>>133778575
has an anarchy and commie hammer in his description, he does realize that communism is the opposite of anarchy right?
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