Would you support a European Federation/Confederation if it was

>>133763394
Not support it, but I'd like to see how it worked.
Also it should really be a federation, so the federal government shouldn't tread on me or I'll launch the nap-nukes

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Pic related is the only acceptable future for Europe.

>>133763394
No. European countries are way too different to be federated, no matter what government.

A European Federation would be against my ideology, so no

>>133763394
Yes

>>133763394
>eastern europe
>mediterranean
>balkans
No

>>133763394
>if it was under a government of your ideology?
"Delete shitskins"
Yes I would

>>133763394
>a European Union of Fascists
count me in

>>133763394
EU under an efficient meritocratic rule that takes away citizenship and welfare rights from recurring criminals? Might be nice.

Bonus points for deporting criminal scum to Syberian labor camps.

>>133763394
No, to much cultural difference and different histories.
The Balkan countries are independent for a reason

>>133766005
Well don't be lazy fuckers and grow the fuck up. Bickering constantly over 'muh culture' is completely and utterly autistic. Make a fucking effort.

>>133764918
>burger
fuck off and stay in your multi-kulti shithole
European is European

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Yes

>>133766105
Shut up globalist cuck
Culture and tradition is the most important things we have

Yes. Under facism with soft borders between northern/western, southern, and Eastern Europe.

>>133766412
Sweden has nothing unique about it's culture in comparison to wider Scandinavia and northern Britain... please travel a bit.

>>133766412
Being in a federation/confederation doesn't mean you lose your culture. You can have both a European and regional identity and history. What I was saying is that Europeans need to grow up and learn how to cooperate.

>>133763394
I'd consider a unified Europe if it was an absolute monarchy under the danish monarch, and danish would be the official and majority language.
If not, then no.

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Yes with russia

>>133766655
Your point?
We still have very different culture from Slavic, mediterrain, balkan countries

>>133763394
No, Europe must be destroyed. Inshallah.

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>>133766982
>living under Danish protection in a Danish kingdom

no thanks, pic related

>>133763394
No, also Southern Europe(This includes France) needs to die.

>>133763394
yes

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It could work as long as there's no attempt to destroy the cultures and there's no money flow to subsidize poorer countries. But then again it wouldn't really be much of a union though.

>>133763394
Yes you fucking idiot, anyone who wouldn't is a moron who wants to see the West fall.

Proof that white nationalism will destroy years of culture and history.

How about France for the French, Poland for the Poles, Russia for the Russians, etc... Fuck off American idiot!

>>133766730
Then how about they made deals with each other?

>>133763394
NO

>>133763394
Stop these autistic euro uniting threads NIGGER

We have bigger threats. The entire WORLD wants whites dead, not a single race would keep us alive if they could kill us.

We need to unite AGAINST shitskins and only then can we worry about keeping separate euro ethnicity alive, breeding nords with nords, meds with meds, etc.

First handle shitskins, then discuss european affairs.

>>133763394
No. If the internet did not exist? Maybe.

The internet is the great decentralizer. There is no reason for a supra-national bureaucracy, and if I'm blunt there is no longer any need for Federal governments of any kind. The Age of Empires has gone as far as it can in the current forms they take, we need a rise of new and independent City States.

>>133767788
Agreed, but why not a unified force to defend our home, noone outside Europe steps foot in Europe, noone inside Europe steps foot outside their state.

>>133764619
Fucking bavarians. You have no where to expand now retard.

>>133767330
The very core identity of Europe is the same though. It is an individualist, Christian, humanist greco-Roman influenced group of people. If you go abroad to non-European regions, you will find that they differ hugely from European ones. You could say, while Europe has all shades of Blue from light blue to midnight-blue, other cultures are red, yellow and green compared to Europe.

Regarding language, you have many nations that already incorporate multiple languages into functioning federations

>>133767788
Are you that polish catholic living in France?

>>133763394
Yes.

>>133763394
Confederacy is the only way

>>133767985
That's a slippery slope for total destruction of thousands of years of history and culture. So NO!

>>133764619
Why are Bavarians river trash hobbits?

>>133768114
I'm an Israeli on a vacation in France

>>133763394
>tfw never ever united states of europe
>tfw never ever common deus vult campaigns in the middle east
>tfw never ever kicking turkroaches out of NATO
>tfw never ever Europe for Europeans

>>133767788
a federated European government to have the people of Europe work together does not mean that the European nations should lose their identity
>>133767985
this anon is right

>>133768189
So you would rather France gets eaten alive by migrants and muslim gangs? Have you seen Paris? The status quo is not working.

>>133768335
>tfw never ever kicking turkroaches out of NATO
They are too important strategically, controlling Bosporus and therefore channeling Russias access to the mediterreanian sea, being the buffer zone between Europe and Arabic nations and a leapstone for Western military power projection into that area.

The only thing I can imagine is Turkey actively trying to build up a sphere of cultural and militaric influence and then leaving the NATO. But for the near future, both parties have too much to gain from Turkey being in the NATO than otherwise

>>133768335
Thank god for that, being with you faggots in the EU is disgusting enough already.

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>>133763394
Yes i would.

>>133768566
Fixing things doesn't require such a destructive entity! It'll be worse than the EU!

Unity is strength.

I support a unified Europe and a real EU federation.

>>133768189
French have no culture.

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>>133763394
Of course not. I'm not a traitor.
The continent has survived very serious external threats, and has recovered. Now all the threats are internal.
A shocking amount of people are willing to throw away their identity and bastardise their culture. Spineless cowards who would seek foreign help like niggers, instead of an effort to improve their self and their people.
I consider every EUroboo the same as liberals and commies.

>>133768780
A Europe united to defend the borders of Europe and to defend the individual countries culture is destructive to Europe, but accepting millions of non-european migrants is not?

Typical French, you deserve everything you get.

>>133768340
The proposition is the EU but with far more power! How aren't you seeing this?! Cooperation doesn't require all European countries to be under one big government!

>>133763394
>European
No

>Scandinavian
Hell yeah I would.

>>133763394
Yes.

>>133768869
I'm not French. I'm an Israeli guy whose on vacation and cares about preservation of all real nations.

>>133767554
>when making fun of your boyfriend's accent when saying ''Rodgrod med flode''

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>>133763394
>Would you support a European Federation/Confederation if it was under a government of your ideology?

Have you ever seen a pet dog declare independence? EU is controlled by outside entities.

>>133763394
of course! although I would keep it smaller

>>133768683
go fuck yourself you fagg.

>>133768932
Not being under a worse EU =/= accepting migrants. I'm an Israeli guy on vacation btw. What you guys should do is take care of the mess you did and make sure you learn from the mistakes you did.

>>133769185
Oh so you're jewing and against a united Europe to defend its border? OF COURSE

>>133763394
Ethno-nationalism, with local sovereignty respected, and European culture celebrated and cherished. We would allow freedom of movement for all white people. Islam, Communism, and all subversive ideologies would be banned. The EU will never be that, because it is run by hate filled, emotional cripples.

>>133769500
Tell me how the EU has worked so far?

>>133769542
>We would allow freedom of movement for all white people
no

Whoever speaks of Europe is wrong: it is a geographical expression

>>133769313
All three, SPÖ, ÖVP and FPÖ support Russia. Only the Greencucks and the pink faggots dont.

Or are you just a Polish toilet cleaner?

>>133763394
Only if Paris is the capital.

>>133769745
You don't like Argentinians?

>>133763394
Nope, fuck the feds.

>>133769945
I dont like poles

>>133769699
The EU in its principle is entirely different than what I'm proposing.
The EU is for open borders within EUROPE, I' am not.
The EU is for open trade between Europe, I'am not

The only suggestion I'm making is a united EUROPE to defend its borders and evict any non-european within EUROPE.

Any non-native is to be evicted, and non allowed back.
This NEEDS unity among Europe because Hungary cannot hold its own if Germany is allowing migrants in by the millions.

This isn't about an internally united Europe, this is about a military force designed to defend the continent.

>>133769699
>Rise in wealth
>Many nations copy models by the EU
>EU seen as important by many nations (e.g. China)
>Still a thing after decades
>Most peaceful time in all of central Europe
>Multiple countries begged to be in the EU
Quite well, I suppose

>>133770036
Didn't they save Europe from the naz- you know what, I can't do this with a straight face

>>133769500
If you want a good solution it's actually easy. You also keep your countries Democratic in the end.
1. Not allow immigration and babies who don't have a parent from your country can not be citizens.
2. Not allow religious symbols in public. It will lower the amount of Muslims.
3. Raise taxes so you must have children to survive (pay a lot for having children). People that do more than 2 children will get fined and not receive money for additional children. This will make the rich reproduce more and the rest reproduce equally. This means minorities (who have lower IQ than the rest of the population) will make less children and after a few hundred years they'll be mixed with the rest of the population and disappear (there'll always be those who choose to mix, use that to your advantage).

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>>133763394

>>133768067
>Christian
You're several centuries behind. Europe is the least religious region on earth, with east Asia as its only competition. Christian influenced, but not Christian. The Greco-Roman influence is primarily political and European government isn't really much different than governments that have recently popped up in former European colonies. Common European identity last existed before the Reformation and those ties weren't very strong anyway. The only "unity" you might find is a product of geography and nothing else.

If we decide to group all Europeans together because they're kind of similar than what's stopping us from grouping all caucasoid people's or even everyone that's part of the amorphous "west"?

>>133770140
Defend from whom and how much will each country spend? Will there be 1 leader or 1 for each country?

>>133770605
>norway part of the jew union
sorry, but no.

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No. Globalism and multiculturalism doesn't fucking work, and you're not going to get people to throw away their history and heritage for 10% more tax revenue the EUSSR can spend feeding third worlders.

>>133770469
>1. Not allow immigration and babies who don't have a parent from your country can not be citizens.

Obvious

>2. Not allow religious symbols in public. It will lower the amount of Muslims.

Not allow non-christian symbols is fine.

>3. Raise taxes so you must have children to survive (pay a lot for having children). People that do more than 2 children will get fined and not receive money for additional children

This Shlomo is you jewing.
People get fined for having more than 2 children? Rich reproducing? Statistically the poor produce the most children, the rich generally choose to have 1-2 children. And thus the decline in native European population.

How about giving tax-incentives for native children, and forcefully removing anyone from Europe who isn't native European?
I don't give a fuck about your political correctness or your democracy.

>>133770696
probably 1 leader per member states

>>133770694
>You're several centuries behind.
Most of European cultural foundation is based on Christian principles.
> The Greco-Roman influence is primarily political
Greek philosophy shaped European philosophy, politics, medicine, the very way our universities are shaped etc.
And saying that Romans didn't have an impact outside of politics while writing with the Latin alphabet, using multiple loanwords from Greek and Latin is ironic.

>>133770696
Defend from non-European DNA
make it legally binding within each country to REMOVE non-Europeans from Europe.

The punishment for being a non-European in Europe should be eviction, the punishment for illegally entering Europe should be death.

>>133770140
>This isn't about an internally united Europe
then there is not point in federalizing
It should be the European tribes coming together to solve the problems the European nations are facing, whether external or internal

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>>133770895
>Globalism and multiculturalism
says 90%+ white country
accept the fair share of refugees you faggots

>>133763394
No

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>>133771274
Erasing my heritage for post-modernism? No thanks. Removing non-europeans from Europe? pic related.

>>133763394
Yes as long as all national borders are abolished

>single currency
>multi-borders

Full retard

>>133763394
No

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>>133770895
This. Fucking closet leftists ITT either favour multiculturalism or support destroying the native cultures.
Makes me sick to the core.

>>133764619
You really are scum

>>133771425
>strict national boarders between European nations
>somehow erasing your heritage for post-modernism

>>133763394
No

>>133766119
the irony of your post and your flag

Natsoc wasn't some bastardized pan-european ideology most alt-lite memers think it is. Hitler had contempt for Poles and Ukrainians

I don't think you should be using that flag

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This is the only European Union I'll ever accept.

>>133770971
With 3 it will lead to overpopulation in a few hundred years but it can be like that if you want. Everyone will be forced to have children so "the poor are the ones who have children" won't matter and they are also overwhelmingly represented by non locals.

Every symbol must be hidden. Not that it matters to Christians that much... What do you have? A necklace with a cross? Just hide it while walking in public.

Discrimination is a big no for everyone and dictatorships are an even bigger no for everyone than that. In the best case scenario, you achieve all your goals and create a dictatorship but after some time the people revolt (no one likes authority it just how things are). They overthrow dictatorship and create democracy. After a while they allow migration for economic reasons and the same things happen again but this time they'll remember the dictatorship's ideas as something to oppose. And then white genocide.

>>133763394
I think that the optimum solution is to have "regions" within the European Union, for example you could have a Scandinavian region with closer co-operation. It already exists in a way. But yes, I am an internationalist.

>>133771932
>Sweden
Never, they've proven themselves to be the worst cucks out there.

>>133771845
I don't think you quite understand anything.

>Hitler had contempt for Poles and Ukrainians

See Stepan Bandera

You modernist have no idea what natsoc is, nor do you have any idea what Hitlers ideology was. You think he was about German domination and that gives you that edgelord feeling. No, Hitler was for nationalism within Europe, he did not view other nations as subservient that is a (((lie))).

>>133771105
It will create a feeling of hatred towards your ideas and create the opposite effect.

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>>133771932
We don't need a fucking big brother EUSSR ruling over us and dictating how to run our own fucking countries.

>>133772108
Woah, i didn't even think about separating certain european people's and their land into autonymous sovereign territories called "states". What a revolutionary new idea, comrade.

>>133763394
>Would you support a European Federation/Confederation if it was under a government of your ideology?
If your current ideology was in favor of greater regional sovereignty, anti-globalist, anti-empire and individualistic then you would not by definition. sage communist slide thread

>>133763394
I would support a Western European Empire where the governments of the states are dedicated to preserving their culture and ethnic integrity while all foreign policy is handled by the Emperor and the military.

>>133772225
>It will create a feeling of hatred towards your ideas and create the opposite effect.

When its time its time. We will see what they hate more, the violence/rape/destruction of Europe, or the thought of being called racist.
All in due time.

>>133772483
What I'm saying is that things can be done smarter. Violence is something no one likes.

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>>133768041
>>133768253
>>133771538

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>>133772342
Closer co-operation, goy. One region at a time into the world government.

>>133772342
Created in struggle by will of the Peoples,
United and Mighty our Sovie... European Land!

>>133772631
I think we are beyond that, the propaganda that followed WW2 cemented in everyones head that Europe must be multi-kulti.
It has to get tough enough for people to open their eyes.
That is the difference between our two people Shlomo, we, don't mind getting our hands dirty.

>>133771932
Only if any and all outside immigration and permanent residency to the union is permanently illegalized under an unalterable clause in its founding constitution.

>>133772185
>a Polish hohol that got sent to a concentration camp
bravo, but Hitler was a German Nationalist above anything else

>>133772926
Of course he was a German nationalist.
He also believed every nation should be nationalist.

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>>133763394
No.

>>133763394
Generally yes, not sure about what to do with the outer regions outside of the Continent (such as the European Carribean territories or Greenland, etc) though. Giving them full independence?

>>133772983
yes, the negroes in africa should be nationalistic and proud of their heritage of spear chucking as much as Europeans are proud of philosophy and art

>>133773253
Absolutely, it is the only way for them to advance, if they are not proud of who they are they will never try to improve them selves.

You're an absolute idiot if you think Hitler propagated German domination of the world.

>>133763394
Kill yourself

>>133763394
European nations are not American states, we have too large and too numerous differeces, plus most of us hate each other.
For this to work there has to be a massive scale genocide until only one culture&language remains.

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>>133773596
>no Great-Finland
Every time

>>133763394

No because it would be the death of European cultures into one blob of a singular culture.

>>133764619
How to insult real german ?
Just call them bavarian, they go apeshit over it.

No one fucking likes you in EU.

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>>133763394
My primary concern would be that a European State should guarantee sovereignty of its member nations. As such any constitution should include an article that explicitly states that all member nations have a right to secede.

Furthermore there should be an article that declares the joint interests of all member nations and peoples as their guiding principle. I don't want to read anything about the "European" nation. No such nation exists just as Jugoslavia existed as a state but never existed as a nation.

I also think that all matters of foreign policy should be delegated to a European Executive. I think it is mostly benificial if we stand together when it comes to outside powers. Otherwise we shall remain to "Divide and Conquer" tactics.

When it comes to matters of defense I think that the nations should be very careful to not delegate to much competence to the supranational level, as this could pose a threath to national sovereignty. I think the European state should be responsible for the naval forces and should get a small Marine Corps-like force with max 100k men for quick deployment abroad. Nations should keep their own ground forces though, which should be under national command in peace times and could be transfered to European command in the event of mayor which threatens security and/or territorial integrity of one, multiple or all of its member nations. Kinda like the Bavarian Army in Empire times. That's why we should establish a European HQ for just such a situation. Also nuclear weapons should remain under French control but European Navy could access them via nuclear sharing.

to be continued...

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>>133773543

There should be German domination of the world, what are Italians known for these days? Shitty food and overpriced cars? What are the Greeks known for these days? being in debt and a muslim ridden shithole, most """Greeks""" have turkish mixture in their blood.

Also
>thinking niggers will ever advance themselves
top fucking kek, every nonwhite shit hole deserves to be a colony and exploited for their resources for the superior races and the weakest of them should be culled to we'd have less weak retards to worry about. The only /pol/lacks that would disagree with this are probably mongrels themselves

>>133774420
Take that flag down then LARPer, you have no idea what it stands for. And are giving it a bad name

>>133774420

t. polish/dravidian plumber

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>>133774710
see
>>133774976

>>133774420
What are Germans known for these days?

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>>133773790
>Pole doesn't like the only remaining catholic part of Germany
Really gets my noggin joggin.

>>133775075

cumming in mum and free tendies
also masters of Europe
try again sweetie

A national socialist federal union. No shitskins or commies allowed. I'd burn my family alive to see that happen

>>133774710
you don't know you revisionist cuck. Adolf Hitler believed in deutschland uber alles, not your NS lite egalitarian trash

>>133775060
Untermensch, you are trash. You think we want to dominate other countries? No, we want what is ours, we want our own home, we don't want shitskins in our home, we don't want you retards who give us a bad name in our home either. We want an ethno-state of only us. A united German people. We dont want to administer over poles/niggers.

You're an absolute fucking 'white-nationalist' retard. Fell for the "Hitler was a racist who wanted to kill everyone" jew-meme and now you think its edgy. You are nothing but untermensch and you deserve nothing short of death.

>>133775384
>we don't want to dominate other countries
pls explain the eastern front of ww2

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>>133775202
>national socialist
>no commies allowed

>>133775384
>Untermensch, you are trash. You think we want to dominate other countries? No, we want what is ours, we want our own home

thats why you cull them and rule you nu-natsoc faggot. I don't get why most fags on here think Hitler was some kind of benevolent christ-like figure when they'd be the NEET neckbeards that would be sent to camps for being degenerate loli loving nerds

>>133775496
What is bloody sunday?
What is Hitler distrusting Stalins NAP?
You need to be shot like a wild dog for spreading Jewish propaganda.

>>133775693
>distrusting
uh...have you even read Mein Kampf?

>>133775161
>Masters

Your puppets true masters of EU is Luxemborg wich is a tiny shit country but had most EU chairman

>>133775688
>NEET neckbeards that would be sent to camps for being degenerate loli loving nerds

>tfw. 6'5" Alpha European
love it.

>>133775845
yeah ok kid. how much you deadlift?

>>133775693

you should be shot for thinking HAPA slavs and muditerraneans should be collectively grouped with Germans

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>>133763394
Speaking as Pole I would personally support it, but that's just plain utopian.
We hate each other too fiercely here in our little shit hole, and this infighting is the core of our problems. Instead for once doing something shoulder-to-shoulder we we prefer to fight like a bunch of inbred niggers.
It's ingrained into our very cultures, and will be, if not already is, our downfall.

>>133774410
Generally speaking all domestic issues that member nations can solve on their own should be left to them. Education, social policy, cultural developement etc. should remain their domain. When it comes to economic policy however nations and the European state should share competence. Since economic strategies are an important factor in shaping a nations interests, it would be impossible to draft a common foreign policy without at least aligning these to some degree.

critcism and suggestions are welcome.

>>133775900
What part of a german ethno-state involves Slavs and Italians?
Holy fuck, that toilet-brain meme is absolutely real with you "white nationalist" folk.

Fucking rapture when?

>>133763394
nej and fuck off Tysker

>>133776037
are you such a fucking retard that you think hitler thought of slavs as equal to germans? please attempt to prove me otherwise Mr. 5'11 standing on his tip toes in boots NS

>>133775799

try again sweetie, Mama Merkel is the aryan grandmother that will lead the EU to prosperity and only nu-pol faggots think drumpf is going to save anyone other than the y*ds in israel

>>133775845

haha ok kid, i bet you get bullied by gangs of 12 year old Moroccan kids on your way to school

>>133768189
what is the roman empire
what is the holy roman empire
what is napoleon
what were the reichs

>>133763394
Yes I would, the independent nation isn't capable enough to make any decisions.

>>133763394
No

>>133764764
Wrong

>>133774420
>We should spend our time memeing countries into poverty instead of helping them help themselves and advancing humanity towards the stars
>t. Jew

Honestly I hate you fucking retards. Do you have no scope whatsoever? I'm not at all saying we should invite niggers into non-nigger countries or anything like that and I'm not saying we should hand them resources or hand them anything of physical value. I'm saying we should help them lift themselves up even if their highest level is still way below what ours is. Think how much (((outcry))) there would be if you started slaughtering niggers in Africa purely for resources. Christ, you can't even punish actual fucking criminals for committing crimes anymore.
I would rather help anyone that needs help and have them as an ally instead of making them into an enemy for absolutely no reason. With the sole exception of the Jew, who has consistently and persistently proven over the past 2000 years, at least, that they simply can't be helped and it's "Shlomo's way or no way". You, the kike, are a bigger fucking menace than the nigger and much more dangerous than any natural disaster, disease or virus. There's literally nothing that you, the kike, has improved upon or even created for the good of mankind. Absolutely nothing. You, the kike, are born nation wreckers and if there's any kind of war that deserves to happen to wipe out any peoples it should be one to wipe out you, the kike. Which do you think would be more difficult, gassing billions of niggers or gassing a few million Jews?

>"Fellow white people, why not start a war against a billion niggers? I'm sure there won't be any white deaths from that!"

You aren't white. You're a fucking genetic mistake.

>>133763394

My immediate reaction was no but then I thought, what about Ultra-Conservative British Imperialism. So yes but only if the rest of Europe is a colony of The United Kingdom.

>>133776175
Slavs in Slavic land,
Germans in German land.

(((You))) need to stop this divisiveness, it is leading to a weakened European people. If you remotely thing Germany will dominate the rest of Europe you are sickly mistaken. We are the worst of them all, allowing niggers and sand-niggers in by the million. You are sub-saharan african tier with your "Muh north congo better than muh south congo"
fucking disgusting.

>>133776037

>all nazis r dum as long as theyre not compliant with my utopian pan-european ideology xD

you're no different than civic nationalist faggots
its not white nationalism, slavs and muds arent white. It's Germanic nationalism, i know youre shaking in your boots you half-turk but when the 4th reich comes i'll be sure to get you the comfiest set of striped pajamas and a window seat in the gas chamber for being the most based black guy I have ever met :^)

>>133767788
Hence why a European confederation with a European army to defend these values is important

;^)

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>>133763394
YES
I hate Russia more than the EU

>>133776557
i'm not promoting anything. Just saying that if you were a genuine National Socialist and not NS lite, you would realize that Adolf Hitler and Alfred Rosenberg thought of Slavs as subhuman. try and read a book ok?

>>133776577
>t. burger

stfu, you revealed your self the second you assumed there is niggers where I'm from.

You are a burger LARPer. Reveal flag, prove me right.

>>133776557

hey buddy, before the EU Europeans were butchering each other as if it were a national past time. Theres no such thing as a collective "European Brotherhood". But of course a little Sicilian like you would love to be grouped in with nordic aryans

>>133776806
>billions of dead Europeans is a good thing.

how fucked is the education in USA?

>>133766119
Clearly stated I wanted no part in an unified Europe, you illiterate nigger.

>>133776744
when did i mention niggers?
i said slavs and muditerraneans arent white
when i said mud i meant mediterranean shitskins like you

>>133776885

>*billions of nongermanics dead
sounds p good desu

pan-slavists, all the shitskins in the balkans, and muds need to go

>>133776885
>billions of europeans
there aren't billions of europeans you retard.

>>133776241
No, the EU will eventually collapse within a couple of years and we will have total chaos. Wich is fine with me because i love chaos

The EC is corrupt as fuck.

A federation would be even more corrupt than the US federal government and that's saying something.

You all would and you know it.

Back when the EU had money and shitskin invasion wasn't happening, the EU at most got laughed at.

>>133776960
>most based black guy

(((Your))) pysop is failing burger,
reveal flag or stfu.

>>133777096
or your argument just sucks, NS lite

>>133763394
Only if it was fascist, nacist. But then given nazi model, regions like balkans, romania, bulgaria should be kept as separate regions, generally slavs, also italy and spain/portugal should be isolated.

>>133763394
The EU it's current form is a anti-White project, read about Kalergi plan.

The EU will be the destruction of the White Race in Europe.

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>>133777297
Mhm, you are preaching for war within Europe, while millions sail across the Mediterranean from Africa/Middle-East. Revel flag or stfu.

>>133777083

Merkel is confirmed /ourgal/
europeans have had it soft and now that shes importing all kinds of shitskins everyone is getting redpilled. Drumpf's tiny hands could barely comprehend the levels of 1488D backalley checkers that are being done here.

>>133777096

you still haven't proven that Hitler loved slavs and muditerraneans as much as you did you revisionist cuck.

>>133777420
i'm not preaching for war. just pointing out that adolf hitler hated slavs your poser

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>>133777498
reveal flag burger, prove me right

>>133777420

we should have a global race war and cull all the shitskins starting with you and the only ones left will be the Aryan Übermensch

>>133777567
pointing out a historical fact has nothing to do with background. if you can't accept history, you are either retarded or insane.

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>>133777607
Blah-blah-blah all bs coming from a (((burger)))

>>133777714
i'm german and baltic and you're a slav my man. Adolf Hitler hated slavs. stay dumb bro

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>>133777898
are you? prove it with your flag

>>133777714

lmao you've obviously run out of arguments and your paranoid burger-phobic dialectic is the only thing you can cling on to

get fucked you mongoloid slav

>>133777697
Please do show your flag. I just wouldnt want to be lectured on history by some brazilshit

>>133777965
>im proud german baltic
>im too ashamed to reveal my flag.
love it

>>133777898
are you not a slav? prove it first. hitler only talked shit about slavs, french, and jews :)

>>133776437
>what is all of history

Of course. The Jews are trying to undermine a monolithic white European nation with the EU. They fear a United Europe.

>>133763394
No.
My ideology is not compatible with European federation/confederation.

>>133778058
why are you NS if Hitler hated slavs and allowed anti-christians (rosenberg, himmler) to operate in his government?

>>133778058
i never said i was german-baltic you retard

>>133776640
Fuck off kraut nigger.

>>133778205
In fact you should reveal your flag too.

>>133778205
>challenged by 3 people to reveal flag
>deflects with subject change

love it

>hitler hated slavs
>allied with Croats

>>133763394
My ideology is self determination, so it would be impossible for a pan European government to be of it.

>>133778353
Hitler also allied with muslims. you like muslims?

>>133778353
See >>133778332
That was adressed to you actually

>>133778016
>>133778058
>>133778332

lmao /pol/ retards cant see the obvious difference in the IDs
>>133778205
>>133778274

were different people you tards, this is why I only go on /pol/ to piss off nupol faggots

>>133778477
>Still won't reveal my flag after claiming to be German-Baltic
>too ashamed
Holy fuck, stfu (((burger)))

>>133778544
so you like muslims?

>>133778646
I'm not answering any questions until you answer mine, you cannot have a debate without answering any questions.

>>133777418
If such a plan exists, I have yet to see any evidence supporting that fact. The only thing that I can verify are statements by Kalergie that can interpreted as suggestions just as much as they can be seen as predictions. If you know of any relevant sources then please enlighten me.

>>133778786
you didn't ask a question.

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>>133763394
Yes

>>133778823
I asked you to reveal your flag several times, you refused. You cannot have an honest debate when you're constantly on the offensive and disregarding anything your opponent says.

>>133763394
Yes.

>>133778786
you're mistaken, (you) cannot debate, period.

>>133778888
that has nothing to do with debate. i'm asserting facts and you are evading them.

>>133778993
You claimed Gemanic-Baltic blood, you refused to prove it. You LARP division amongst Europeans, are you even European?

>>133779094
I'm of german and baltic descent. is that so hard to believe?

>>133764918
>>eastern europe
>>mediterranean
>>balkans

this is the real EU loser, germanic tribes are just an anomaly.

>>133768189
>this would hurt our culture
Because France has done an amazing job of protecting all of its white ethnic minorities.

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>>133777045
There should be.

In a more perfect world.

>>133763394
Still no.
A federation of any sort would totally undermine my ideal of a return to tradition.
There is no continent-wide tradition which is a fundamental part of why the EU is fucking evil to begin with.

>>133779316
i like you

>>133770142
>Most peaceful time in all of Central Europe

That's got nothing to do with your little globalist, nation destroying Marxist experiment and EVERYTHING to do with the advent of Nuclear Weapons and the USA backing NATO

Nothing wrong with military treaties that bring nations together, but the EU is a globalist civil pact not a military one. Although they're trying to combine the two.

>>133779205
What generation? You can claim your superiority and LARP all you want but you don't quite comprehend the situation in Europe anymore. We need to move beyond conquering each other. We drew out our claims, we staked our land, now we need to defend it from the outsiders.
There is no reason for Germany to invade Poland or France, it will only end with further deaths of more whites and create more room for non-Europeans to settle in. Thats what I'm trying to say.

>>133779354
How is a European tradition supposed to develop if we refuse to lay the foundations for it?

>>133779480
dude. i never said i hated slavs or french people. just pointed out that it's silly for slavs and what not to follow NS because Adolf Hitler himself said they were a race of mongoloids

>>133763394
collective governments that try to mash together hugely different cultures and crush them into a homogeneous mass are as immoral as they are fucking useless failures

>>133763394
No.

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>>133763394
>Would you support a European Federation/Confederation
Never.

>if it was under a government of your ideology?
See, this is the problem with the European federalists' mindset. They think that you can just declare something to be "European policy" and expect all of the disparate peoples of Europe to just get onboard with the idea and fall in line. And they think that they're justified in using coercion (and eventually force) if these expectations aren't met.

It doesn't matter if I could just decree that each of the 28 (soon to be 27, thank christ) member nations must now believe what I believe. Even if I picked the "perfect ideology." I doesn't fucking matter.
They are their own fucking people. They are their own cultures, their own countries, they have their own goddamned agency and THEY OUGHT TO.
YOU CAN'T JUST TELL THEM WHAT TO THINK.
Each nation in Europe is different, and must be free to do what is best for them.

The only way forward for Europe is a return to nation-state democracy.
Never mind the part where the (unelected) European Commission and, to a lesser but still significant extent the European Parliament, are actively working against the interest of the European people. Even if they were doing what they said they were doing -- working for the betterment of all Europeans -- this would still be a stupid fucking goal, because it relies both on totalitarian, hegemonic enforcement to make it work, and a continued ignorance of and disregard for the differences between its constituent peoples, to make it work.
It's the fucking USSR all over again.

>>133779480
>>133779606
Two brazilshits roaches detected, reveal your flags now or stay roach forever

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Give the rulership of EU to the Vatican and you would see the True Upcoming of God's Imperium.

>>133779531
There should not be a European tradition, Europe is not a nation and never will be no matter how hard you try Hans.
Don't make us smack you upside the head for the 3rd time in a row in just over a century.

>>133779750
i revealed my flag earlier you worthless sack of shit

>>133779750
Fuck off Achmed. He revealed

>>133779606
But the ideology of natsoc has nothing to do with him considering slavs sub-human or whatever. I fly this flag because I believe every nation within Europe should be nationalist, should be socialist towards their own. I believe in a divided Europe culturally, but united in its defense of Europe.
Like living in the same neighborhood, but not letting your neighbor into your yard.

>>133779689
>YOU CAN'T JUST TELL THEM WHAT TO THINK.
>Each nation in Europe is different, and must be free to do what is best for them.
If we are to do and decide what is best for us, then we are also free to form a state together.
>The only way forward for Europe is a return to nation-state democracy.
Don't tell us what to think man :(

>>133779759
Are you shitting me?
Pope Francis would start importing third-world savages even more quickly than the current EU already is.

>>133779991
i don't disagree with supporting indo-european pride in all areas, but National Socialism is fundamentally a pro-German and anti-Slav movement. Adolf Hitler was pissed that Poland was created from former German territories and made eastern expansion a prime ideal for NS (Lebensraum). As a proponent of the ideology, I do accept these ideas as elements even if i don't really take them to heart outside of calling out blatant revisionism.

>>133779862
>Europe is not a nation and never will be no matter how hard you try Hans.
Have you even read what I posted above?
>>133774410
>>133775976
Also show your true colors!

>>133779759
Oh yes, the wonderful world united under the Catholic chu... oh wait. The current pope isn't even against converting all the non-believers to Catholicism anymore. Nvm.

>>133780247
No, he wouldn't. Trust me. Once in power, he wouldn't have to say those bullshits. He is just trying to get some followers back.

>>133780509
We must have usefull minions. You just don't see the end game

>>133775148
I even would have the Bayrische Staatsbürgerschaft and I still hate Bavaria and it's retarded CSU.

>>133780371
All Poles are Slavs, not all Slavs are Poles
Slavs are very loose.
I disagree with you that eastern expansion was the fuel for him. I think he genuinely wanted to unite German people and leave it at that. Many Germans were living in Poland at the time because of the reason you stated. But that said, I don't think he wanted Poland, I think he wanted Danzig and other German areas which were occupied. He believed in a Germanic state, not a Germanic dominion.

>>133780520
>No, he wouldn't. Trust me. Once in power, he wouldn't have to say those bullshits. He is just trying to get some followers back.
>No, he wouldn't. Trust me.
>Trust me.
...
No.

>>133780371
>>133780900
To add to that, did you watch The Greatest story never told?

>>133763394
I don't like this EU but it doesn't mean that I don't believe that the best thing for us is to be united. I've always thought that a many more people than we think are bothered by the idea that the Europeans are united.

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>>133764619
Der Ewige Bayer

>>133763394
No. It would unironically destroy the diversity of the European peoples, cultures and nations. Europe of the fatherlands is the furthest I would go.

>>133780603
Nah, allowing the ecumenism-movement not only with the other Churches but even with non-Christian religions was a betrayal at the highest degree. Not even religious, but that was really a reason for me to consider leaving the Cucktholic church.

>>133781051
yeah i've seen it

>>133780900
Sorry to break it to you but in his famous magnus opus he explicitly stated that German should annex and colonize all slav territory between Germany and the Urals. He called it "Lebensraum im Osten". The Goal was to aquire the means to feed ever resource hungry german Economy. By aquisition of these territories Germany was to become self-sufficient and free itself from the whims of the world markets which had plagued it during the great depression.

>>133781446
So you know what I mean when I think he genuinely wanted a unified German state? I don't think he wanted to dominate over Slavs, I just think he wanted all Germans under Germany.
Like Serbs did prior to WW1.

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>>133773596
i see a failure, you need the basque country.

>Europe federation

Hell no.

>Scandinavian/Nordic Federation

drakeapproval.jpg

>>133781490
#goals
I never said he was a perfect man. The germans could never beat the slavs in open war anyway, but Im saying his real goal was a united Germany.

>>133780474
Englishman visiting family in the colonies.
By trying to create a "European State" and a European Tradition in the first place you are undermining the cultures of the nations of Europe and thus furthering the aims of globalism.
Just for once can you Krauts please learn to respect the other nations and peoples of Europe.

>>133763394
>government of your ideology
BWAHAAHAAAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAAAAA
my sides have left the building
AHAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAAA

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>>133781880
It certainly was one of his goals but he was a far more ambitious man than you give him credit for.

>>133782632
And thus his downfall.
Should have focused on western cucks instead.

>>133781963
I don't expect you to endorse the idea since it runs against your country's national interests especially know that you decided to take the ball and go home. But at least don't be intellectually dishonest with criticisms of the concept of a European State based national sovereignty by using arguments that only apply to the European Project in its current wretched state. When I talk about European tradition, I'm not saying we should become a nation or abandon our different cultures. I'm just saying that we should try to cultivate a sense of trust between ourselves acting as one when dealing with outside state actor and other foreign threats. We could still keep our petty rivalries by competing on the domestic level :)

>>133763394
Top kek.

European federation, you can't even keep britain from leaving. And for what? Because you didn't have enough tax cattle? 700 million wasn't enough? You had to import more?

face it, your little united states of europe experiment is a failure.

it took a lot more to form the USA than just a bunch of beurocrats getting together. For instance a constitution which limited the power of the government for almost 200 years, EU is already a totalitarian government.

>>133783124
After the Battle of Britain ended in defeat they should have tried to close off the Mediterrainian by conquering Egypt. After that they should have coquered the Middle East to solve Germanies fuel shortage.

>>133779689
>See, this is the problem with the European federalists' mindset. They think that you can just declare something to be "European policy" and expect all of the disparate peoples of Europe to just get onboard with the idea and fall in line. And they think that they're justified in using coercion (and eventually force) if these expectations aren't met.

Cause that's totally not what the US government does. Enjoying those somalis Obama put in Michigan to try and turn the election btw?

oh and also the EU flag is shitty and the hymn too

how can you expect people to feel patriotic about that lol?