Does God have free will? If no, then what sense does it make

>>133753954
What if your entire argument boils down to the arbitrary use of the word "just"?

>>133754796
By "just a force of nature" I mean a mechanistic entity (as opposed to one that chooses).

God is constant and changing, like a whirlpool is made of ever-changing constituent elements but structurally remains constant over time.

>>133755171
It's a false dichotomy. That the "laws" of nature are mechanistic laws is a metaphor and not a truth. All we really know is that things happen. It is the vanity of physical materialism that thinks that we finally solved all the mystery that has always existed in the world for more than 100 000 years.

>>133753954

Christ had free will, and used his life (and death) to show us how to use our free will.

Sorry that's too hard to understand atheicuck. Actions have consequences.

>>133753954
Post the Epicurean paradox next

>>133753954
>God has free will
>His actions are contingent
>Meaning, not necessary
>Yes, creation is an act of Divine Will
>Creation occurred freely
>Creation is an act of unconditional love by the Father
But
>How does that imply that God changes?
Consider Thomas:
>We observe that all things that move in this world have their motion imparted by some other object
>We can trace motion back by moving from effect (motion) to the cause (mover)
>We cannot go back infinitely, there must be some First Cause of motion
>This cause, by nature, DOES NOT MOVE NOR CHANGE, but remains unmoved
>This Unmoved Mover is Him Whom we call God

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>>133755983
You don't have to think our laws are the right laws to think that there are right, true laws of the universe.

The body of actual laws that governs the universe, grouped together and referred to as a distinct entity for linguistic ease, is God.

God isn't a man in the sky. He's not a person. He doesn't think. He is the unconscious laws that govern our universe. He isn't something that is contingent on other things, he is the contingencies themselves.

>>133761684
Well you know, maybe.

>>133753954
Free will is one of the most first and most important distortions of the creator, as it experiences the illusion of separation to experience itself. If all is one, and we are all individualized portions of the creator, free will is paramount.
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