What is the point of space exploration when all we get out of

>>133678243
There's also data. But plebs like pictures, so pictures you get.

Why should I give a fuck about what's beyond the horizon? I've got my shit farm right here in Africa

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Exploration leads to Exploitation.
Exploitation leads to Colonization.

Looking for ways to profit. Capitalism makes it all happen.

>>133678243
Trying to find Bogdanoffs' original civilization

>>133678463
You say that like it's a bad thing, pinko

>>133678243
lol looks like your moms butthole

The eventual goal is to colonize and terraform other planets. But that's going to take decades, possibly even centuries. You will probably not be alive when we finally accomplish this. Hell, your grandkids might be in their old age before this is feasible. This is a long term goal. We need to make long term goals if we want a future for humanity. For now, we get pictures. Deal with it.

They didn't even get that close wtf

>>133678676
So why did the USSR explore space?

>>133678243
People forget about all of the discovers, related or indirect because of the Apollo programs. This is a slide thread. Moon landing, flat earth, space is a waste is all CIA SOCIAL ENGINEERING.

S A G E
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>>133678708
I literally didn't. You're obviously not a native English speaker. What commie language were born into?

>>133678243
Of course they want to find the Jewish aliens and take over the multiversity!

>>133678243
I'm sorry but there is no way that picture is real.

>>133678243
>wtf i hate space now

>>133679000
I am of sorry
You use picture of Yuri, and so I assume

>>133679194
Yuri is based.

Fun Fact: Commies wanted a space launch on some communist anniversary, but the mission wasn't ready. Yuri was supposed to go up but his friend volunteered to take his place, knowing the mission was a death sentence and that Yuri's death would devastate the nation. USSR space command could hear Yuri's friend cursing those who sent him up there as his module tumbled through space and ultimately burnt up.

>>133678243
I like pictures.

I mean it's a Jewish conspiracy to convince people the world is round.

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>>133678243
>focus on Jupiter
>ignore Saturn

I wonder why?

>>133678828
To beat capitalism

>>133678243
>what is the point of anything if it hasn't done what I want yet?


Just go kys

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>>133678243

What if Jupiter/Saturn are actual planets with a solid core or surface, but rather just a ball of gas and they act as portals?

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>>133678243
*yawn*
call me when we want to get serious about the whole space thing

>>133679957

aren't*

>>133678243
>probe full of sensors to read the insides of Jupiter
>camera added to give autists a carrot

REEEEEE WHY DID WE SPEND ALL THIS MONEY JUST FOR SOME PICTURES!!!

>>133679957
Both have solid cores, a mantle of metallic hydrogen and atmospheres of ammonia.

>>133678243
It's all cgi anyway. It's all a big fraud to rake in tax bux.

Did any of you see the new law that Luxembourg passed?
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/07/14/luxembourg_passes_space_mining_law/

>>133678708
didn't sound bad to me.

>>133680006
*rddt

>>133679957
>just a ball of gas
They're just a ball of gas like a person is just a sac of mostly water.

NASA what's to know if jupiters core is solid hydrogen so they can try to replicate it on earth and it could revolutionize the world.

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>>133680306
That's awesome.

>>133678243
Jesus fucking Christ youre not even American are you? Whats the point of Manifest Destiny and the Transcontinental Railroad? All we get is shitty scalp trophy pictures in black and white with fucking injuns, amirite?

>>133679743
>competition
>in a communist country
Hmmmmm....

>>133678699

Finally someone gets it

>>133678243
The secret agenda is that space doesn't exist

>>133679695
/thread

>>133678243
M8, that's a storm bigger than our entire fucking planet. Do you really think it's not worth researching?

>>133680306
>>133680457
Asteroid mining is the only way we're going to get colonizing.
Getting material into orbit from Earth is way too energy intensive.
Mining the raw materials outside of a gravity well would make building huge structures in space much much simpler.

>>133679993
Wouldn't this crash the stock market if you found 5 million pounds of diamonds?

>>133681311
We already have more diamonds than we know what to do with.
They're being held in artificial scarcity.
Presumably the same thing would happen.
Unless someone wanted to build something big
Then I guess Earth-based suppliers would get fucked

>>133678243
Space exploration is the long, slow work that still has to be done. 1000 years from now our descendants will thank us.

>>133681311
It would crash the diamond market.

>>133681311
It would shake things up for sure.
But make no mistake, the worlds first Trillionares will be the men that own asteroid mining companies

The agenda is to fuck with you
Then your mom. She gets sloppy seconds

These pictures are triumphs of western civilization. If you can't see the reason of behind it I can't explain it.

>>133679695
maybe because juno was built to be sent to jupitor

>>133678243

i'm so happy we have this picture instead of using it for welfare

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>>133680557
you must not understand communism very well

>>133681629
They're probably a minority with inferior genetics and no sense of purpose in the universe. They use our language and fail to understand a word of it.

>>133681207
>Do research
>find out its a planet sized storm
What next?

>>133678243
>all we get out of it are these stupid pictures
Dumbest argument ever.
We are still benefiting from the technology behind the Apollo missions, never mind recent discoveries. There are plenty of lists online to educate yourself.
Besides tech spinoffs, the act of learning to live in space is building the groundwork for making humanity a multiplanet species. Having state agencies start that process ensures it will have a level of continuity that until recently private capital has failed to provide.

>>133678243
The purpose is simple, continue to develop data for when humanity gets it's collective head out of it's collective ass and tries to ensure humanity's survival by getting at least a viable number of genetic donors off the single world we currently inhabit.

Until cranium exit's rectum, there is not much else they can do.

why spend taxpayer money on space probes if all scientists do is crash them into other planets?

>>133682281
You know the probe isn't just a fucking camera right? It measures wind speed and chemical composition of the clouds. By knowing how materials act we can better understand the composition of the universe, how planets form etc. This is all vital knowledge if you intend to ever fucking explore other planets with manned missions.

>>133682620
>A couple of Bill to get wind speeds, cloud compositions and some pretty pictures.
>While ground based telescopes and spectroscopy could do the same.

Are you sure something else isn't going on?

>>133682453
i'm serious if we're gonna send probes into space i want them back, not flown into desolate hellholes throughout the whole goddamn solar system

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>>133678243
Earth is flat, space is a shoop, control > money.

>>133682840
Yeah pretty sure. Considering telescopes still aren't better than just going to the fucking object you wish to inspect. For instance they've also discovered that our entire understanding for the composition of Jupiter's layers is wrong. Why didn't your telescopes pick up on that, huh?

>>133678243
In this case it's stupid picture of shit we've already seen many times. So the spot has shrunk a little. They can see that shit from earth who cares. I think they plan to play god and try to ignite Jupiter into a sun

>>133678326
Aren't most of the pictures compounded data as well?

>>133679695
because they are quite similar but Jupiter is almost 2 times closer to Earth, dumbass

>>133683188
Because then no one would get the couple of Bill in tax bux.

Lockheed Martin's hookers and blow aren't free, anon.

Meanwhile we don't go to the moon and set up a cool theme park.

blood for the blood god

>>133678457
Yeah, it's really nigger-tier logic.

White civilization and progress and success has always been about exploration. About knowledge for knowledge's sake. About doing the seemingly impossible. About constantly striving for the next frontier, the next horizon.

>>133683284
>ignite Jupiter into a sun
Burger education every body.
That's not even remotely how it fucking works. You can't just set fire to a gas giant and make a star. Stars are made of plasma because they contain so much matter that the pressure at their core ignites and releases shit tons of energy, kept in check only by its huge gravity. When stars don't have the energy to balance out the radiation they're producing they die. So even if you could fucking ignite Jupiter (which again isn't how it works, you're a moron), it would just burn off a few layers and go cold.

>>133678243
Pictures are as close as we're ever gonna get as a species. Jupiter would've killed you long before you could get that close to it... and that's even if you were to survive the trip there (which you wouldn't).

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>>133678243
no retard, they need to get into those planets to check stuff like the soil and the magnetic field of that planet. you see, earth has this molten core, other plants have it too, some of them does not have it liek mars. Mars used to have water but when the molten core got cold and solid the water was gone. we need to study why this happens to check if indeed the earth magnetic field is one of the factors that makes life on earth possible.

>>133681311
Read this:

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1982/02/have-you-ever-tried-to-sell-a-diamond/304575/

It's old, but it's the best explanation of the diamond trade I've ever seen.

>>133684028
Archived that for you
https://archive.is/IyV7Y

>>133678776
>The eventual goal is to colonize and terraform other planets.
it's not, or we would be talking about terraforming mars already. Most at nasa consider it a crackpot idea

>>133678243
(((They))) are tying to cover up the child sex slave farms on Mars.

>>133678243
yes, what you're looking at is where EARTH came from. NASA is not important as much anymore for me, I want to know which agencies are working with INNERSPACE vs OUTERSPACE

>>133685052
what about a moonbase first?

>>133678243
>What is the point of space exploration

So we can eventually colonize alien space-niggers. I'm being 100% serious too, this should be the white mans next step.

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>>133681598
>But make no mistake, the worlds first Trillionares will be the men that own asteroid mining companies
Asteroid mining is fucking stupid.
Tell me what makes more money:
>1. Mining on the Earth
or
>2. Using rockets to somehow bring relatively trivial amounts of minerals that you can easily find on Earth, somehow tow it back to Earth, somehow bring it to the surface of the Earth without crashing it and causing an apocalypse and somehow not crash the markets with the large amount of minerals you just dumped into the economy.

If I mine fucking anything on Earth, it won't ever have the overhead of the billions and billions you'd need to "mine" in space.

>>133678243
I'm glad retards like will never be in charge of anything ever. If you were we'd still be living in mud huts, sacrificing goats every time there's a thunderstorm.

>>133685052
NASA has no colonization mandate. They have an exploration, R&D and support mandate. Private entities will do the colonization.
>Waiting for corporate cyborg wars above Mars.

More threads like these further convince me that /pol/ is the most uneducated board on this site

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>>133679695
The Cassini probe literally crashed into Saturn's rings and atmosphere as it's last mission in April 2017.

Are you even keeping up?

http://interestingengineering.com/nasa-cassini-spacecraft-end-saturn-mission-grand-finale/

>>133678776
honestly planets are a waste, could get much more living space turning every thing in to large living habitats and making them in to a Dyson swarm and be a type 2 civ. but likely never be type 1 :(

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>>133686509
Yes, that is how basic supply and demand works.
Until it's cheap enough to ship equipment into space and bring minerals back it won't be cheap enough to turn a profit.
But eventually it there will come a day when it will be. The sheer volume of minerals and materials up there makes it a certainty.
Try to think further out than next months pay check tyrone.

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One thing is for sure.

You're a classy American, OP.

Meteorologist here, I find the images fascinating. A planet made almost entirely of gasses still has incredibly complex weather patterns despite the lack of terrain. I wish we could send some GOES-16 satellites over there to get more coverage and start mapping the weather patterns but that probably won't happen in my lifetime.

btw climate change is bunk don't fall for it.

>>133687270
>Until it's cheap enough to ship equipment into space and bring minerals back it won't be cheap enough to turn a profit.
unless you find a way to violate laws of physics or some how use fucking "magic", you aren't going to space for cheap. It will always be cheaper to mine shit on Earth.

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>>133678243
The Jew is scared humanity may escape its grasp to outerspace.

>>133687025
This, my friend, is what happens when pure, unadulterated autism is allowed to run rampant.

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>>133686573
Agreed. Also, there was a thread full of shitty neckbeard faggots taking a dump on Elon Musk yesterday.

These people claim they want to see the white man rise again, yet every thread regarding space is filled with an almost socialist-tier feeling of nihilism and negativity.

Either there are shills trying to keep the white man down, or /pol/ is genuinely against conquering space, an inherently white man thing.

>>133687270
Also, why use the "butter vs. guns" model you economically illiterate faggot?

for the last fucking time space does not exist

>>133687507
Your like a 18th century whaler crying "WE WILL NEVER STOP USING SPERM WHALE OIL STOP TRYING TO FIND ALTERNATIVES"

American mines used to have crews of thousands, they used to go under mountains and dig tunnels for minerals. You know what we do now? We use mining excavators and mining wheel loaders and we blow up the whole fucking mountain and strip mine the whole thing.
Eventually people find a better way and they become the next class of people to move up in the world.

>>133687721
It's a supply demand curve you middle school drop out.
Seriously, guns vs butter? What decade are you from?

>>133681678

>lets use space exploration money for gibs

Yeah no

What does pol think of the Isaac Arthur youtube channel.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZFipeZtQM5CKUjx6grh54g

I think this man should be running nasa

>>133687995
>We use mining excavators and mining wheel loaders and we blow up the whole fucking mountain and strip mine the whole thing.
yeah, and it's only getting cheaper. Space mining will not. It can't get cheaper. Digging in the ground will always be cheaper than capturing an asteroid billions of miles away.

You are childishly underestimating how much things cost and how much energy you need. There absolutely nothing too valuable or scarce that you would need to go into space to get it.

Now mining in space to use in space, you might be onto something. Bringing it back to Earth, you're thinking like a total fucking retard.

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Defiantly an agenda!
David icke

>>133687995
>Seriously, guns vs butter? What decade are you from?
I was making fun of you for your faggot little chart.

>>133678463
>Exploration leads to Colonization.
>Colonization leads to Exploitation
ftfy Bourgeoisie scum!

>>133687696
There are no reverse image search results for this image on google

>>133688575
It's from Tinder. You're not going to get to talk to a girl on 4chan today, taco stuffer.

>>133688351
You think I'm saying this will be in a decade when I'm not.
>billions of miles
Nowhere near that far
>You are childishly underestimating how much things cost and how much energy you need.
I literally work in the heavy equipment industry, I can assure you I ran no fucking numbers but I don't deny technological progress.
There are companies already getting into this.
You think like a idiot, like you can only comprehend 10-20 years out.
I get it though beyond that is beyond your reach, so why think about it?

>>133688435
And instead you came across like you just dropped out of 6th grade.
Take a basic econ class, it would help you loads.

>>133688764
I'm asking for a source, dumb, butthurt merinigger scum.

>>133678326
Date about shit millions of miles away.
intradesting

>>133688986
>There are companies already getting into this.
Yeah, they are called fucking Ponzi schemes.
>"Give me $10,000,000,000 to mine $1,000 worth of iron!"
"NO."

>>133678243
1) to make the uninspired ask banal questions
2) yes

>>133689324
Shut your pie hole you brown mutant you're more nigger than he is

>>133689324
even more sad. Like nightmares where there isn't any tacos.

>>133689555
They aren't even close to that stage. It's more about laying down the groundwork so the technologies required to achieve it will be available in the future.
Things like methane powered rockets and potentially fabrication of thing in space. All of which are things that will help cost come down.

>>133678243
One point of space exploration is to identify objects that could hit the earth then stop that from happening.

>>133690323
Orbital laser when

>>133679993
Asteroid mining is pointless when we don't have a space based economy. It takes far too many resources to transport the materials back and forth. Maybe once we have a interplanetary transport system set up, then asteroid mining would be more realistic.

>>133689324
her name is STPeach you beaner

>>133678243
The more we spread out, the less likely we all die in a single cataclysmic event. How is this difficult to understand? It doesn't need to happen right now. It might take a few thousand years. But it needs to happen.

>>133690028
bringing it back to Earth is the deal breaker. Using minerals in space to build shit that stays in space makes a lot more sense, but it'll never be done in an "economy". There is no profit to be made.

Just start a cult or something if you want to bullshit your way to millions. That or become a Jew and invest in stocks.

>>133690773
I agree. The only thing we will see is the groundwork to make that type of thing possible laid down in our lifetimes.
It's something that's generations out.

>>133690899
If I had money to invest right now I wouldn't be throwing it at these startups quite yet.
It's easier to just dump money into mutual funds atm.

>>133687507
Lots of space mining concepts are more for getting materials and fuel for space craft, and stations, instead of useing lots and lots of rockets, use only several rockets. Also their are concepts for making space much cheaper. Like Launch loops https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J1MAg0UAAHg and orbital rings https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LMbI6sk-62E

We never went to the moon. We have never even gone into space. Everything you see is a faggot Mason sh*tshow. Nobody went to the moon. Nothing landed on Mars. You are giving trillions of dollars to Freemasons for them to produce the most easily debunked videos. But you are too proud (USA! USA!) to read the writing on the wall.

>>133691835
Surely you must have proof for your claims?

>>133691987
do you?

>>133692052
Tell me, what exactly do you want proof about?
I'll try to provide you something

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>>133683354

You're exactly right but would you expect the 14 year olds that populate this board to realize that it isn't a Nikon DSLR taped to a 9-figure spacecraft?

>>133678243
Space doesnt exist. Stop spreading this maymay.

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>>133691835

Get a load of this guy

Pic related; it's you

>>133691835
disinfo shill. We did go to the moon but some of the footage was unusuable for whatever reason so the footage shown to the public was shot in a studio by stanley kubrick. When we got there ETs were waiting and told us to never come back. there's videos about this on youtube with NASA saying it over public channels before switching to a private one

>>133692052
Rocks that can be spectrographically matched to the Moon, materials exposed to solar radiation, a FUCKING SPACE STATION in orbit that's visible to anyone that wants to look.
>Flat-earthers get free rides on the Day of the Helicopter