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Gender is a social construct. If someone wishes to be identified

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Gender is a social construct. If someone wishes to be identified with a specific gender, and has taken steps to biologically conform to that gender's characteristics as closely as possible, what right do you have to say, "no no, you're not part of that, your gender is determined at birth and can never be changed".

However, the same can't be said about race. Only White people can see relative success in being 'transracial' because of many institutions of racism that still plague our societies today (see: 'One-drop rule'). We say that biracial Barack Obama is Black, and he was brought up in a White family.

Anyway, I can change my hair and eye color, or wear heels to make myself taller; why can't I be female if I want to?

Give me one good reason, /pol/, without resorting to
>muh degeneracy
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>>133632837
Well, you can't reproduce. Also, once you change (or genetically affected) biologically you're incompatible with your species, unless nature wills it.
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>>133632837
Gender is a social construct, but "racism" and "police violence" are also social constructs

sage
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>>133633058
Infertility is not exclusive to trans people, and trans people are not exclusively infertile
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>>133632837

Because you can't change objective reality to suit your subjective desires.

Gender is tied to biological sex, and there's no discussion to be had about that. You can REEEEEEE all you want, it makes no difference.
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>>133632837
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>>133632837
say your bullshit to the gopniks outside not online faggot see what happens
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>99% of this board will never experience how amazing estrogen feels
>99% of this board will never know what it's like to wake up with a soft, smooth body, curvy legs and tiny boobs
>99% of this board will never put put on makeup and cute clothes, look in the mirror and can't believe how good they look
>99% of this board will never know what it's like to be treated as a girl by big, manly men

desu I pity you all
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>>133632837

Gender is meaningless. Only sex is real, and that doesn't change.

You cannot become a woman.
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>>133633241
How so? What makes a trans fertile? And I am not talking about traps, I mean the legit ones with the SRS and HRT. It biologically affects them to become infertile.
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>>133633585

> 99% of this board aren't mentally ill tranny subhumans

kys
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>>133632837
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gENdeR iS a SocIal coNsTrUct
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>>133633738
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>>133633323
social construct are largely subjective
your point is?
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>>133633882
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>>133633241
trans people are infertile, because they lost their dick'n'balls or their vagina and ovaries
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>>133633585
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Gender describes how feminine or masculine something is...in many languages even words have gender.

Man, woman, he, she, his, her, etc all refer to a person's sex, not gender.
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>>133633143
biological gender is real, your role in society is a social construct
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>>133634067
no, these are just spectrums
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>>133633585
Tbh this is a feeling I'd like to experience at least for a day but not permanently fuck up my life
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>>133633585
]>99% of this board will never know what it's like to wake up with a soft, smooth body, curvy legs and tiny boobs

you know whats better? fucking a girl with smooth skin and nice legs
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>>133634215
You get to perceive your delusional reality however you please....

But you do not get to tell people how to perceive their own reality...you do not get to tell people how to describe you. They get to describe you however they perceive you.
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>>133632837
Gender is a linguistic construct based on the biological reality of two sexes.

> what right do you have to say, "no no, you're not part of that, your gender is determined at birth and can never be changed".
The right of any person to use the language that best represents the truth as they perceive it.
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>>133634215

You can't be a woman, even if you want to because you're asking other people to negotiate away your biological sex. You are literally just pretending to be a woman, other people have no polite obligation to indulge your imaginary identity.
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>>133632837
My D in your ass is a social construct don't worry it will be finish soon shill
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It's degenerate if you lie about your gender. Especially if your a "girl" and don't tell a guy you have a dick before you go home together. Other than that I think it's fucking weird but I can't tell people what to do with their body, but you are honestly messing up the natural order of things
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>>133634741
that's not weird at all
you're SO insecure it's hilarious
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>>133632837

You can't change gender, you can only mutilate your body to mimic the opposite gender.
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You know I have nothing against traps with feminine penises, but those """"""""vaginas""""""""" that they get post-op are both horrific and just sad. You can still go back to being a man, if you have a dick, you know. Yeah, you'll probably have to rely on testosterone therapy and surgery to remove your boobs, but it's nothing if you can value your dick and balls. Those trannies who had their junk cut off are mostly suffering greatly from losing their genitals. What they have now is non-functional gaping hole that's basically a flesh wound. It's not a vagina. How is that better than being a girl with a dick? You know, in many cases tranny dicks remain functional and their balls too. This is just sad what people do to themselves.
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>>133632837
"Social construct" is a social construct, so I don't give a fuck about made up genders.

>man
>woman
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>>133633585
>You'll never see yourself become a genetic mess that would eventually commit suicide

Feels good man, I love being masculine while the rest of my generation are cucked soy drinking trannyfags
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>>133632837
Calling a delusional man a woman is genetiphobic. Humans don't have a gender, they have a sex.
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>>133633585
>99% of this board won't either end up killing themselves, mutilating their bodies, or being beat to death by the dude who just found your cock.

Comfy desu.
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>>133634924
"mimicking stuff" is what makes society

>>133635006
think what you want
both of them can have vaginas
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Xenoestrogene in water to pussyfied you Twinks is a social construct too major faggot
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>>133632837
You can LARP as whatever you want, we just don't need to entertain you
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>>133634924
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>>133632837

I will not humor a mentally ill person's delusions.

The lunatics cannot run the asylum.
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>>133632837
It is degenerate. I don't need another argument, you do.
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>>133632837

This person has the "pedosmile".
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>>133632837
goddammit this shit issues again?

Adam was created with Eve not Steve nor trannies or SJW FFS
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>>133632837
>Gender is a social construct

No its biology. Male/female = reproduction as seen throughout nature. Your thread is most definitely gay and op is as ever a faggot

egas
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>>133632837
kys cunt
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Gender (like age) is a biological fact.

Sexual preference/identity is a social construct.
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>>133632837
>your gender is determined at birth and can never be changed
>the same can't be said about race
Poorly structured argument too easy to pick apart. Must be bait.
If someone could be "transracial" it would look like pic related. Someone who was born one race and then CLAIMED to be another race, even going as far as changing their appearance. But deep down nothing has changed, you can't alter your DNA to be something you weren't born to be (yet). If you were born white, you will die white. If you were born a man, you will die a man.
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Isn't it funny that humanity had it all wrong for thousands of years and we managed to figure it out in less than a decade?
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A faggot wearing makeup is a woman just as much as a furry in a costume is a wolf. And both belong in a psych ward dayroom.
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>>133635368
if it's an illness where's the cure?

>>133635457
Adam was kinda gay

>>133635577
I know that Nazis can't read, thanks anyway
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>>133634149
biological sex*
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>>133632837
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>>133633585
Why are you americans so gay?
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To hell with you OP!
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>>133633738

Look how the faggot is ignoring it.
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>>133634067
The term 'gender' refers to the grammar used with romance language nouns. It has nothing to do with people. The word has been corrupted by neo-Marxists to normalize insanity and destabilize society.
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>>133635669
>adam is gay
>had sex with eve
>got Cain and Abel
>never read Adam molesting Cain or Abel

pls
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>>133632837
>as closely as possible

There's the kicker. Making yourself resemble something as close as possible =/= being that something.

People can create counterfeit money that is almost identical to real money, but it's still fake money. A sculptor can recreate the statue of David, but it would never be the real thing. A man can make himself resemble a woman "as close as possible", but he's still a man. It's just mimicry, it's not real.
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>>133632837
I come into these threads for new QT traps to add to my folder and they have been severely lacking lately.
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>>133632837

fool, sovereignty is a social construct. we still respect it.
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>>133635789
yeah some gay people are lot worse than orphanage and broken marriages

>>133635827
>CIS people don't have any complications
how stupid are you?

>>133636060
ok
not a "woman" woman (or whatever) but a transwoman
what's so fucking hard?
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>>133632837
you can write "patrick da king" on your ID to "take steps towards conforming to a kings charachteristics
but it doesn't make you a king
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>>133634055
it might not be too late for you anon

hrt can be pretty magical
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>>133635669
The cure for homosexual disorder is androgen medication for males and anti-androgen medication for females, along with anti-psychotic meds for both. The reason why homophilia hasn't been completely eliminated is political, not scientific.
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>>133636347
>not a "woman" woman (or whatever) but a transwoman

Now you're just making things up. A man is a man, regardless of whether he's cut off his cock & ball, gotten breast implants, or crammed his body full of hormones. I can't dig out one of my eyes with a spoon and claim that I'm a cyclops, that's fucking crazy.
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>>133637534
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>>133632837

Because it's just an illusion.

If you dress up like a cat, you are not a cat. No matter how bad you want to be one, you are still a human pretending to be a cat.


Gender is not a social construct. Gender roles may be socially constructed for sure, but if you are XX you will always be female, if you are XY you will always be male. Period.


Why the fuck is this shit even being pushed in the first place? I don't understand the passion about crossdressers.
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>>133637325
it's interesting, I used to think this was a meme but taking estrogen/anti-androgens has legitimately made me gay

I used to strongly prefer women, now I strongly prefer men...5 years ago if someone told me I'd have a boyfriend now I wouldn't have believed them
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>>133632837
Oxygen is a social construct. If someone wishes to be identified with a specific diatomic gas, and has taken steps to biologically conform to that diatomic gas characteristics as closely as possible, what right do you have to say, "no no, you're not part of that, your preference of diatomic gas is determined at birth and can never be changed".

I beg that you try to avoid oxygen altogether.
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>>133637878
Homosexual disease is a hormonal disorder, primarily affecting androgen levels. This has been known to endocrinologists for some time, but it's political inconvenient so there's very little funding for further research.
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>>133637325
No, the cure for homosexuality is death.
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>>133632837
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>>133638629
What funding there is mainly goes into Polycystic ovarian syndrome (PCOS) research. This disorder mainly affects lesbians with high levels of androgen. Interestingly, the hormonal meds prescribed by doctors, especially when taken at a high dosage, has a tendency to turn the lesbians heterosexual.
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body size is a social construct.
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>>133632837
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>>133639388
I told you: you're insecure
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What's dilation?
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>>133637878
If you liked women then why did you take anti-androgen meds?
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>>133639632
>What's dilation?
Shoving a dildo in the putrid open wound where the faggot's dick used to be before he volunteered for a Dr. Frankenstein experiment.
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>>133632837
Please tell me that's not a man. Because I need to face fuck that thing.
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>>133640183
That's a man, which means you're a fag.
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>>133640183
then you should support LGBTQ+ everything
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>>133632837
I've seen that trap on omegle. Whoa


Not bad.
http://kitty-lynn.tumblr.com/
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>>133639970
Are traps that don't get the chop somehow more acceptable to /pol/
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>>133640308
I blame all this on you Ruskies. The KGB was heavily promoting cultural subversion in the West during the Cold War. We're still living with the fallout.
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>>133633241
everything you do to transition is not governed by nature. Thus it is unnatural human creation. You can call yourself a piece of art if you'd like though..
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>>133632837
>Gender is a social construct.
>If someone... has taken steps to biologically conform to that gender's characteristics
Thought it was a social construct?
>what right do you have to say, "no no, you're not part of that, your gender is determined at birth and can never be changed"
Its not a matter of rights to say it, although we do have it, its a matter of duty to speak of objective fact the way it presents itself to us, whether we like what it has to say or not
>Anyway, I can change my hair and eye color, or wear heels to make myself taller; why can't I be female if I want to
You're not changing your hair color, nor your eyes, those are illusions, your hair will grow back its color assigned at birth via dna and your eyes are merely under plastic which refracts a different color and heels don't make you taller just like being on the 2nd floor of a house doesn't make you 20ft tall and you can't become a woman because you're not a woman
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>>133640519
boo fucking hoo
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>>133640308
>LGBTQ+
sound like a diseased bloodgroup
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>>133640573
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3qkf3bajd4
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>>133640248
It means I'm a man, willing to dominate anything I want into submission with forced oral creampies
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>>133632837
Gender is a social construct. If someone wishes to be identified with a specific gender, and has taken steps to biologically conform to that gender's characteristics as closely as possible, what right do you have to say, "no no, you're not part of that, your gender is determined at birth and can never be changed".
>what right do you have to state a fact?
You need special rights to speak the truth? I guess your flag explains it.
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>>133639677
in all honestly its because the idea of being (not fucking) a woman always turned me on..all my first sexual fantasies were about it long before I had watched porn or even masturbate.
I was still attracted women's faces and bodies though, so I would have called myself straight
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>>133640687
And if that thing you want to dominate isn't a female, then you're a faggot. That's how it works.
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>>133640972
So because of a weird sexual fetish you physiologically fucked up your own body? Do you realize how crazy that is?
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>>133640987
I dominate anything I want, so that makes me more of a man than you. Don't make me drop a hot load down your throat.. I'm ready.
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>what right do you have to say

my own thoughts and subsequent speech are not a bilateral agreement, why is this concept so hard to understand? i'm free to say what I wish, and you're free to evaluate it against your own values. yay.
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>>133632837
Via brainscans, it is possible to assign what the persons "pre-programmed" gender is(aswell as "visible gender") and their sexual orientation (even pedophiles).
Except for all the gazillion "other" genders, those ARE socially constructed.

This means it is is no matter of choice. It actually never was or will be, hahaha!
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>>133632837
>steps to biologically conform
No such thing. Gender and sex are the same thing. They're fenotypes expressed by your genotype in the form of pussy and ovaries, or cock and balls.

Your genital mutilation cannot convert your core genetical identity (xx/xy) into another gender, just as much as trowing tar and feathers into some makes them avian.

You're a mentally ill person, and there is all there is to it,
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>>133640573
OP
Who's pic?
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>>133632837
Take a middle school genetics class then fuck off.
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>>133632837
>Give me one good reason, /pol/
Because if you're so fucking obsessed with some kind of mental construct known as gender that you must mutilate your own body then you are obviously mentally fucking ill and need help.

You're a man or you're a woman. Sometimes you're a hermaphrodite, but only 0.0007% of the time. If you are such a fucking psychotic freak that you have to demand people call you by different pronouns and take estrogen when you were born with a dick so you can be more like a girl then you should be confined for your own safety.

Go ahead and try to deny that trannies kill themselves more often. POST-OP trannies kill themselves more often than Pre-op. You need help. Not acceptance, not tolerance, help.
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>>133641088
Do you understand that a faggot is never going to look like a woman, much less be a woman? Pretending to be one is only going to result in you getting AIDS.
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>>133641383
>take my right-wing propaganda class
no thanks
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>>133641219
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>>133633241
Infertility in normal people is the exception, whereas in trans freaks it is the default, in principle.

When trans people are "fertile" it is in regards to the original and only sex they are born with, not in the one they wish to be. Trans women cannot ovulate, and vice versa.
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>>133641366
See
>>133640398
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>>133641088
I know, it definitely is fucked up on some level

having a female body is amazing though. I love it so much. I love how cute I look when I put makeup on, I love my long hair, I love having sex with guys as a girl, I could go on and on...the mental effects are huge too and I really do strongly prefer how I think and feel now to how I used to on testosterone

it feels much deeper than a fetish to me, but maybe that really is all it ever was
either way I'm very glad I started transitioning
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>>133641754
Yeah maybe when you are young. Try acting cute when you are a 40 year old man
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>>133641990

What 40 year old tries acting cute?
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>>133642101
The kind that gets a sex change operation when they're young and then have to cope with not only trying to compete for men that aren't attracted to REAL women in your age group, let alone trannies with masculine bone structure.
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>>133642101
No I telling him to have some foresight. He will be a 40 and his body will be suffering from age
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>>133632837
Acting like you're something you're not is called gender dysphoria. It is a mental illness
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>>133642215

It's hard for anyone that's 40 to compete for anyone. No one wants to fuck a 40 year old unless he's rich and/or has Hugh Jackman genetics, and much less women, since they universally turn to shit after 35.
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>>133641754
how do your parents feel about you being a faggot sissy trap spreading that boipucci
do you have a job other than hooking?
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>>133641990
I mean whatever, aging happens regardless, a good amount of why I like it so much has nothing to do with looks
I'm never going to age into a real man, I have female levels of testosterone, I'm never going to fully masculinize
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>>133642571
I'm still in school
my mom is perfectly fine with it, my dad is not a fan but he never loved me anyway
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>>133641754
You don't have a female body. You are a man who is pretending to be female. The guys having sex with you are fags, just like you.
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>>133641601
Must be terrible getting dominated and throat fucked by a faggot. What are you, a real faggot?
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>>133642946
what are you studying
and if you're in school does that mean that your degenerate behavior is all on someone else's dime?
you've destroyed your body.
how old were you when you were first molested?
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>>133643286
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>>133643136

I don't get what people like you are trying to accomplish. You're just reiterating what's been said in probably a thousand different ways before to the person. Don't you think he's become immune to it?
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>>133643286
it must be terrible wanting to put your benis in a man's throat
sounds like faggotry to me, queer
just keep all those STDs over in faggot population and don't spread them to real people, thanks
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I wouldn't mind being his sugardaddy
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>>133643448
>>133643570
I take no pleasure in forcing myself into the mouth of another man. Only the pleasure of conquering and dividing his asscheeks, metaphorically that is.
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>>133643459
If someone wants to be delusional that's fine, you go right ahead. But I resent when someone tries to force me to accept their delusions, then attacks me when I refuse. That's what the left is doing now on a large scale.
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>>133643459
who cares
hopefully it helps along his sealed fate if he hasn't learned by now
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>>133633585
ikr
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>>133643669
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>>133643859
>>> plebbit.cuk/r/gay

Might be a better fit for you tbph m80
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>>133641383
> not understanding fluidity
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>>133643136
I have boobs, soft skin and a shapely lower body, it's close enough for me
the guys I've had sex with certainly don't identify as gay

>>133643430
chemistry, it's hard m8
my parents have paid for a lot of it

if doing this to my body is wrong I don't want to be right, its probably the best decision I've ever made in my life
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I would pound kitty lynn's boypussy like there was no tomorrow.
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>>133644094
Make sure to get your gender fluid changed every 10,000 miles.
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>>133644291
>the guys I've had sex with certainly don't identify as gay
But they do. Stop fooling yourself.
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>>133644291

Do you ever post on /soc/? I'd like to see you but I know you'd never post pics here.
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>>133644291
chemistry's not hard. i minored in it while i double majored. sounds like it's hard on you, though. sorry about your delusions. hope you never regret the permanent disfigurement of your endocrine system (and the rest of your body). stay away from children, though.
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>>133644021
just came from there, but thanks bby
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>>133632837
>Gender is a social construct
Gender, as you put it, does not exist. It it is completely void in meaning. Sex on the other hand has very definite meaning, the arrangement of chromosomes pairs. Saying "I want to be a girl" does not change your sex.
>Race
Race? Race is actually faaar more applicable to such a thing as "fluid" definitions like "genderfluid" (doesnt exist either). Why? Because race consists of multiple, hoards of genes, and their combinations are not fixed in any one race.
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>>133644291
You're living in this bubble of delusion that you've mentally constructed. The reality is you developed a weird sexual fetish, then acted on it, becoming a homosexual man in the process. Pretending to be something that you're not doesn't magically make you that thing. A man who takes female hormones doesn't become a female, he just becomes a faggot. Chopping off your dick doesn't make you a female either, it makes you a male eunuch.
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>>133632837
Societal norms exist because they work. You can wear hats instead of gloves on your hands but there's no point normalising this. Being trans is repulsive to the well formed human.
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>>133644857
>their combinations are not fixed in any one race
fuck off niggerlover
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>>133644291
>the guys I've had sex with certainly don't identify as gay
Doesn't matter what the fuck they identify as, there gay and your a faggot.
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>>133645013
Cite one (1) journal that states which genes are required to be a nigger.
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If a person identifies himself/herself as an avocado, can you eat the "avocado" then? Or will it be seen as theft?
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>>133641754
>I love how cute I look when I put makeup on,
>I love my long hair
Sure you do anon.
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>>133645252
>Cite one (1) journal that states which genes are required to be a nigger.

Are you fucking kidding me? Cite one journal? How about the entire science of biology for starters.
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>>133645408
>he cant find one
;^)
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>>133632837
At the end of the day XX still isn't XY, anon.
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>>133633585
99% of this board will never have to use a medical dildo to prop open their ruined hairy on the inside cockpussy. If gender were a social construct(it's not) then genitals wouldn't effect it at all and you could be a girl with a dick without being a jew abomination.
Jew's inventerd genital mutilation of many kinds for profit and to spread degeneracy.
Fuck trans people
Fuck genital mutilation of all kinds
Accept that you are your genetics and nothing else
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>>133633585
>thinking real men want to be with a mutilated freak

Yeah no, you'll get the basement dwellers who'll call you trap waifu
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>>133645584
what flag is that? kek
do they really get hair growing inside their fake vaginas? jesus christ
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>>133645501
Happy now?
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>>133645808
>has nothing to do with what I said
nice infographic
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The jig is up... the libs tried to dope everyone with opioids over the last 8 years to slip in all the ghey stuff. You'll have to wait for the next liberal drug fest to finish off the ghey agendas
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>>133644472
I used to when I was feeling insecure, it's been a while though

>>133644712
>sounds like it's hard on you, though.
well aren't you funny
O chem is killing me right now desu

I know this is pointless to say but I'm honestly pretty mentally stable. some day after I get married I'd really like to adopt a baby
I'd be a great mother(father)

>>133644887
>>133645112
being a faggot is a lot of fun honestly, whether or not I'm "truly" female doesn't bother me
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>>133645937
You really should move to Sweden. Shorter waiting time to get thrown off a roof.
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>>133646040
You'll find that denial of reality offends the right, and refusal to deny reality offends the left.
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>>133646127
and you americans should learn to speak english. I literally said show me one journal that states which genes are required to be a nigger. It doesn't exist, because there are too many genetic variances in groups called niggers.

Take your plot for instance, notice the largest difference between to africans? larger than the difference between most of south asia and europe. It still has nothing to do with what I said though.
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>>133645774
Just because you imagine that everything is social construct, does not make it true. It's a fucking reason why people like you fight this bullshit politically instead of scientifically. Because it was proven that YOU were wrong.
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>>133646399
Niggers are not members of the human species. They are more primitive hominid group.
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>>133646415
you replying to the wrong guy there fleskeberg?
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>>133632837
>Gender is a social construct.
Genes, bitch. Unlike for your imaginary "born that way" faggotry, we actually know which genes dictate the TWO AND ONLY TWO HUMAN GENDERS. We have known for over a century now.

Stop denying science.
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>>133646600
Ah, well if niggers are not humans, then they are not a race of humans are they? so how does that help your point amerifat
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>>133632837
>Gender is a social construct
But if I conform the social construct of another gender, I am that gender, proving that gender wasn't a social construct, but rather a characteristic defined by nature. I'm not mentally ill either
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>>133646914
This is also a good argument, since genders existed before it was made into a concept.
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>>133635171
>Male
>Possessing an authentic, genetic vagina, not snipped genitals and an open wound.
False, thanks for playing.
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>>133646807
ur just a anti trump shill
fuck off ctr shareblue jidf kike nigger shitskin race traitor day of the rope will come wish 9/11 really did happen obama did the holocaust free bundy ranch kkk dindu nuffin
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>>133647165
aww poor babbie lost his mind. Maybe if you left your basement and threw out those piss bottles you would learn to have an actual conversation
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>>133647274
lol bet u think gravity causes a ball earth too wake up sheeple oh wait it's too late for you good luck on those space missions there nasa
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>>133632837
>Gender is a social construct. If someone wishes to be identified with a specific gender, and has taken steps to biologically conform to that gender's characteristics as closely as possible, what right do you have to say, "no no, you're not part of that, your gender is determined at birth and can never be changed".


Age is a social construct. If someone wishes to be identified with a specific age, and has taken steps to biologically conform to that age's characteristics as closely as possible, what right do you have to say, "no no, you're not part of that, your age is determined at birth and can never be changed".

Fucking idiot.
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>>133647435
Lol I figured that out first fucking day in college when I did the experiments myself you brainlet
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>>133632837 (OP)
Your DNA says that you can never be female. Sorry to bear bad news. But you can play any role that you want. Gender is biological. It is encoded into your genetic makeup. No hormonal drugs or characteristic changes will be able to rectify that fact.
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>>133647631
yeah and i'm sure you could describe those """experiements""" look theyve all been debunked i could post info if you wanted but I'd wager you would just dismiss it out of hands
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>>133632837
Because putting on a costume and acting like you're something you're not doesn't make you that thing.
My son didn't become batman because he put on a batman costume and acted like batman for halloween. He was still my son.
Similarly, you did not become a woman because you put on a woman costume and act like a woman in day to day life.
You are a man with a severely damaged perception of reality if you believe that, and I sincerely hope you seek professional help in overcoming your delusions, instead of embracing it.
Your inability to distinguish fantasy from reality does not constitute an obligation to humor you on my part. It's sad and strange that people have lost sight of this incredibly obvious fact.
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>>133645584
no reason to go full gender nazi here.
learn the lessons of fluidity
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>>133647946
debunked by the scientific method?
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>>133633585
Have to say that this list makes me pretty curious. Can I just go on a short course of estrogen?
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>>133632837
Hop in psycho
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>>133632837
>gender is a social construct
Stopped reading there
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>>133632837
>If someone wishes to be identified with a specific gender, and has taken steps to biologically conform to that gender's characteristics as closely as possible
But gender isn't expression
gender is what they're inside their heads
The peple on srs were women/men before they got the snippings
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>>133646372
I feel like I've been pretty honest and realistic about everything I've said...I don't believe I was born female, I instead had some kind of weird miswiring in my brain involving sexual targeting (or something like that) that made me want to be a woman for sexual reasons

defitinely when I suck dick I don't feel like I'm doing a heterosexual act
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>>133648103
oh there you go lol didn't take long for you to bring up your Lord Scientism yeah sure your religious books are unfallabile but others are bad oh wait except the koran i bet you love that hah typical eurocuck
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>>133648201
>filename
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>>133648201

You posted a female
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>>133648501
I'm pretty sure that she has a dick.
Isn't it a bit exciting that we can have trouble telling? Would be fun to find out by slipping a hand in her pants.
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>>133646040
>>133648323
>>133640972
>>133641754

>weird miswiring in my brain
>I'm honestly pretty mentally stable

>the idea of being (not fucking) a woman always turned me on
>want to be a woman for sexual reasons
>it feels much deeper than a fetish to me, but maybe that really is all it ever was

>some day after I get married I'd really like to adopt a baby
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>>133648201
not sure I know what you mean by short course but it takes a decent amount of time for things to get good

around 8 months of injecting estrogen/blocking T was when my body shape clearly was changing and I could wear girl clothes, actually look ok and pass for female
also around then is when the skin changes got more obvious and my face clearly looked different which made makeup look 1000x better than pre hormones
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>>133648718

I don't know how it would feel to be with a transexual, or even touch a dick. It really is hard to set aside what most people around you have been beating into your head your entire life, that being gay is shameful, etc...

But I'd like to explore that side of me, if ever given the opportunity. Not gonna deny I've fapped to traps and fantasized before.
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>>133632837
>Gender is a social construct.
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>>133649080
have you fapped to a cartoon? better kill yourself and have your remains pulverized into ink so you can truly be a cartoon
or surgery and hormones, whichever works
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>>133649056
>> and has taken steps to biologically conform to that gender's characteristics as closely as possible, what right do you have to say,

Listen wierdo, your people, the LGBTQUIA1+1=/=2OMFGBBQ freaks say that you don't have to conform to masculine or feminine. If some faggot with hairy legs, a beard, and an apple the size of an exercise ball says he "IDENTIFIES" as a woman, then your freaks say he is.

You have two choices: Commit to being one gender role or the other, or get the fuck off this board.
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>>133632837
your premise is inncorrect. you think gender is a social construct because gender is the social aspect of biological sex. just in that sentence you should see the problem. gender is just a different aspect of biological sex. even beyond whats between you legs the difference between hormones muscle mass ect in men are just different. its call being a sexually dimorphic species.
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>>133649025
thank you for reading all my posts
I don't see how wanting to transition for the reasons I've said would somehow make me unfit to be a parent
like obviously it's weird and I wouldn't talk about it if I couldn't be anonymous but it's not like I'm under any delusions or pretending the situation is different than what it is
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>>133649303
>have you fapped to a cartoon? better kill yourself and have your remains pulverized into ink so you can truly be a cartoon

Well, If I could wake up one day in Shinji's shoes I would:
Personally shoot Gendo in the head.
Have Kaji torture all the details out of Fuyutsuki.
Drown Asuka while she's still on the boat.
Torture and brainwash Misato and Rei into my masochist sex slaves.
Spetsnaz the faggotry out of Touji and Kensuki and turn them into capable pilots.
Teabag every angel (except Kaworu)
Kaworu gets spitroasted by strapon-wearing Misato and Rei, then murdered.

And Seele gets a big surprise when they try to attack.
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>>133641521
Reality is right-wing.
At least you admit to it.
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>>133633585
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>>133651202
> At least you admit to it.

Perhaps that trap faggot can be brainwashed into a redpill depositing machine at all of his gay orgies.
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>>133632837
>Anyway, I can change my hair and eye color, or wear heels to make myself taller; why can't I be female if I want to?
Can you also change your age?
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>>133646040
You feel "ok" about not being a true female beause you're young and time hasn't taken its toll on you. When you get older - with your parents aging/dying, and lonely - you'll feel its time to start a family.

Then you'll see how you're in this terrible position of being neither man nor woman, and when no true man wants to start a future with you for obvious reasons, then it might be too late.

There is a reason transgender folk kill themaselves enmasse aorund 40, and its not external factors or any other political bullshit. Its the realization that you were living a lie.
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>>133633585
>99% of this board will live past 35
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>>133632837
>Gender is a social construct.
>However, the same can't be said about race.

Nice tactic of loading a presumption and then shifting the subject.

No: gender is not a social construct, gender does not even exist. Gender is non-sensical jewspeak. The word "gender" only applies to grammatical concepts; it has simply no applicability elsewhere, specially not in human or even animal societies.

An individual has a sex, not a "gender". Again, jewspeak -- no such concept ever existed before, and if it "gender" were a real thing, and if it were even minutely important, it is quite natural that society would have come up with the concept long before in the past.

An individual has an immutable, birth-defined sex. Whatever else he or she "believes" or "feels" to be is necessarily a disphoria if it opposes what he or she naturally is. And obviously the same applies to race and everything else.
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>>133633585
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ak1-qLbHHCM

Repgen here

i was so mentally ill i was sucked into your degenerate for a while. and your lies almost worked. almost.

but deep within me, my internalised /pol/ knew this was wrong, and after multiple failed attempts to quit.

i finally won, with the help of a professional therapist who aided me in repairing my broken mind. i

i picked up the weights and i willed my body to reactivate the hormones i had so wrongly tried to block. every day, gruelling workouts, designed to cure and power me back up to full strength. Mental illness works both ways.

so i created the perfect male persona, one to cure me and lift me up out of the dirt and retcon my mistakes. in one fell swoop i drove a knife through her heart, what you would call "my female self" she has bled out, and i have taken control of the body and brain. and i will drive it to serve good. not degeneracy.

because i will not surrender my life to the curse of being nothing more than an imitation of a woman, not when i can remain in gender purity and be a real genetic male. and have the power that ftms crave.

i will not throw that away.

I. AM. AWAKE.


pic related
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>>133632837
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyFLm3pzhuk
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>>133652277
>you'll feel its time to start a family.
>Then you'll see how you're in this terrible position of being neither man nor woman, and when no true man wants to start a future with you for obvious reasons, then it might be too late.
yes this is a fear of mine, I do sometimes wonder how hard it'll be to find a partner to marry...and if I do, they probably don't want kids, otherwise they would find someone who's fertile

yes that thought does make me sad, but I still don't want to stop, I love it too much
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>>133633585
>>99% of this board will never experience how amazing estrogen feels
>>99% of this board will never know what it's like to wake up with a soft, smooth body, curvy legs and tiny boobs
>>99% of this board will never put put on makeup and cute clothes, look in the mirror and can't believe how good they look
>>99% of this board will never know what it's like to be treated as a girl by big, manly men


I feel good when I put my cock on a real woman, who is cute, looks wonderful wearing make up and beautiful dresses matched with a nice pair of shoes.

I feel sadness for people with mental illnesses who are convinced by others that by mutilating themselves they will become that woman, because all they will achieve is turning themselves into freak eunuchs.
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Gender and race are biological realities, and transgenders are mentally ill freaks that should be forced into rehabilitative care. I'm not interested in entertaining this mental illness, especially when it's being forced on children - and anyone that tries to force it on children should be tried for child abuse with intent to cause serious harm.
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>>133653278
hi Amy

you'll be back on hrt within a year
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>>133648370
I DIDNT LOSE MY VIRGINITY BECAUSE I NEVER LOSE!! HAHA LOSER
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>>133654350
dont interupt me when im in /pol/mode
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>>133653159
Holy fuck, this
>>
Because no matter what you do. You will never.

-Give birth
-Lactate
-Have sex without a bottle of lube next to you since that armpit of a vagina won't get wet all by itself.
>>
Oh yeah and let's say youre a chick wanting to be a man.

You will never.
-Get a boner
-JIZZ like a man
-get paid anymore than you already do
-lift %30 more wieght

#so sad
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>>133632837
So is race a social contruct? Can become black?

also nice b8
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>>133657151
transgender women do lactate you bigot, often just from the transgender hormones alone and prolactin levels

some take pills to induce lactation because it helps round out the boobs
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>>133633585
And 1% if this board will go to the lake burning with fire and brimstone
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>>133648718
>That republican flag.
>"Would be fun to find out"

Come on son. That isn't even shitposting. It's just a pile of shit.
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>>133632837
I mean be female with a feminine benis all you want just dont do this to yourself

Not because muh degeneracy, but because I actually care about you and think that something like that is only going to make your life worse and its permanent...you can stop HRT, remove implants, get /fit/ and take off your heels if you change your mind (or wanna go back and forth)

But once you do pic related...thats final...not worth it

>t. someone who actually cares about your PHYSICAL wellbeing as well as your mental one
>>
>>133657957
Transgendered women need to dilate their neo-vaginas with stents for the rest of their lives.

Hair can grow inside the neo-vagina since it's just scotal skin.

Absolutely degenerate.
>>
>>133642946
>my dad is not a fan but he never loved me anyway
>not realizing this is why you have gender issues
>>
>>133632837
Chormosomes... Are you a science denier anon?
>>
>>133658925
>Hair can grow inside the neo-vagina since it's just scotal skin.
this is a /pol/ meme that has been very popular lately

>>133659139
probably not the reason tbqh
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>>133660019

If the guys who fuck you identify as straight, what do they do with your penis? Just ignore it?
>>
>>133660207
um honestly no, very often they try to touch it/suck it
really I'm not a fan of it partially because it ruins my immersion a bit and partially because it physically hurts when it gets fully hard now because of the hormones
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>>133661310
>because it physically hurts when it gets fully hard now because of the hormones

What? Why?

Do you just orgasm from taking it in the bum?
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>>133640398
I'm in love. Chest feels like it has 40lbs on it.
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>>133632837
Genes,you fucking moron.
Trans are just mentally ill people with surgery and drugs.
Genes say "this is a girl, this is a boy, and, sometimes, this is a freak "

Fucking retard
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>>133633585
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where is my fellow norway man when we need it. gas the semetic jews for using woman against us since ever
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>>133632837
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>>133632837
You can pretend and go around acting as mentally retarded as you want to, but you will never biologically be a woman.
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>>133633585
>and tiny boobs
stop right there criminal scum
give me tits or give me death
>>
>>133661550
I actually have no idea why it hurts now but it's not uncommon from taking hormones..it like runs down the center of it like there's a painful rod in there or something

I've never orgasmed from anal, it's been like...many months since I have, maybe almost a year
I guess this might seem weird but I don't really think about orgasming anymore
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>>133663249
Yeah, I don't get it.

Whats the point? Is it purely a psychological kick, like how some guys pay dominatrices to put them in chastity dick cages?
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>>133632837
Consumer protection. As long as there exists political differentiation between one or more sexes, than there needs to be strict adherence to the definition.

Nobody wants to pay for a counterfeit
>>
gender refers to the female or male connotations of words you dipshit, sex is created by chromosomes and therefor unchangeable, just cause your brain is so fucked doesn't mean i need to give a shit about your pronouns
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>>133663734
I get a TON of sexual sensation from my nipples, so I guess that's kind of replaced it partially, plus anal does feel really good and satisfying

I wouldn't call it a psychological kick necessarily, but I do like feeling like a girl and touching my penis kinda ruins that
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>>133632837
Gender does not exist, there is only biological sex.
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>>133648059
Liberal identity disorder is so strong people become a liquid and deny every element of their own humanity.
If you are a man and dress up as a girl and fuck men thats one thing.
If you mutilate yourself and have to cough up scrotum pussy hairballs you have been conned and your life is ruined.
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>Consistently, previous studies have shown high rates of childhood sexual, emotional, and physical abuse among transsexuals

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/271274288_Dissociative_symptoms_in_individuals_with_gender_dysphoria_Is_the_elevated_prevalence_real
>"These findings suggest that abuse and neglect during childhood could have a role in dissociative disorders as well as in the development of gender identity. Consistently, previous studies have shown high rates of childhood sexual, emotional, and physical abuse among transsexuals (Pauly, 1974; Lothstein, 1983; Devor, 1994; Kersting et al., 2003; Gehring and Knudson, 2005)
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/258194218_Lost_in_Trans-Lation_Interpreting_Systems_of_Trauma_for_Transgender_Clients
>"Compared to a group of psychiatric inpatients, transgender clients reported a higher prevalence of emotional maltreatment in childhood, which, in adulthood, was associated with higher levels of dissociative systems (Kersting et al., 2003). In addition, more than half of transgender adults reported an unwanted sexual event before the age of 18"
http://journals.lww.com/jonmd/Abstract/2003/03000/DISSOCIATIVE_DISORDERS_AND_TRAUMATIC_CHILDHOOD.7.aspx
>"However, the higher DES score among transsexuals compared with a normal population was found to be due largely to one item. A surprisingly high prevalence of emotional maltreatment was recorded."
https://www.atria.nl/ezines/web/IJT/97-03/numbers/symposion/ijtc0404.htm
>"A case of dissociative identity disorder presenting as gender dysphoria is presented. This individual, who was sexually traumatized as a little girl, had seven surgeries to complete gender reassignment before treating clinicians recognized that there were multiple male and female ego states. Psychological testing and treatment recommendations are suggested so that integration can be achieved or at least consensus of ego states can be reached before GRS surgery is done."
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>>133664992
I was emotionally abused throughout my whole childhood and young adulthood lol
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>>133666018

So becoming another person entirely allows you to shed that abuse entirely, and the furthest distance you can get from your old self (male) is becoming female?
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>>133666406
honestly I have noo idea at all, maybe that's the case but it would be totally subconscious
never once have I thought to myself taking estrogen would help me recover from being abused
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>>133632837
youre sick and make multiple faggy threads. no. literally watch i am jazz. it sickens me. they have a parental advisory in the beginning of some episodes. off yourself.
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>>133632837
In your world you can be anything you want. My view is my view, I'm not going to fake reality so you can feel good, pay me 100$ so I can feel good please? fuck off, make friends that can put up an act, I can't, sorry and goodbye
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