Anytime I meet a girl who "likes history" she's

>>133618958
That's being retarded, not being an history fan.

>>133618958
>Jesus never existed

why do atheists always make this claim? You can not believe in the divinity of Christ while understanding that Jesus was an actual historical figure, whether or not everything that happened in the Gospels were true. There is plenty of evidence to support him being an actual person

Also don't take what women say seriously, it took me a while to appreciate that. Words and concepts only exist in a social context, abstractions and truth don't exist. I'm making a broad generalization but it's more true for women than it is for men

>>133619299
>an 'istory fan

I imagine you saying that in a French accent

>>133618958
Sounds like somebody read buzzfeed history articles.

Also, Hitler was the bad guy, get over it.

That's why you should teach your women about history yourself.

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>>133618958
Hey, serious question, how did the buffalo population actually disappear then?

>>133618958
Sounds like you've learned one of the fundamentals of women:
Anything they claim to "like" only appeals to them because people give them attention for liking said thing

Other examples include: video games, sports, music, comics, computers, politics

The only things women can appreciate as much as men if not more are animals because it utilizes their maternal instincts

>>133620114

Whites gave the Indians guns and the Indians chimped out.

>>133618958
>Prohibition "didn't work"
are you saying it did?

>>133619651
No, you indoctrinate jew cuck, We are brudervolk, get over it.

>>133618958
>Blacks invented peanut butter, gas mask, traffic light, and blood plasma
this is truth, moron.

>>133618958
Gonna call BS. All most all history majors or lovers are usually red pill as fuck.

>>133620325
Are you fucking retarded? The Indians only killed what they needed, they practically worshipped the buffalo.

>>133618958
>>133619299
>>133619316
>Jesus existed

Because its said in your book? Holy shit you cucks are dumb

>>133618958
>>White settlers destroyed the buffalo
>>Prohibition "didn't work"
>>Richard Nixon expanded the Vietnam War
these 3 are very obviously true just with more nuance

>>133620766
>The Indians only killed what they needed,
they needed all the leather and feather art, ornaments, and headdresses?

>>133620766
Did a woman tell you that?

>>133618958
A few that stick out and have some redpill potential.

>race was invented in the 1800s
Race is way older than that, AFAIK one of the earliest racial denominations was between ancient Greeks and 'barbaroi'.
Racism itself is a term coined by Trotsky in the 1920s, for very political purposes ofc.

>Prohibition didn't work
True, it shifted the trade in alcoholic beverages from a legal, taxable venue to the black market which saw the rising dominance of mobsters like Al Capone.
Betcha she'd be saying this too if the entire idea was designed by, presented by, voted for and implemented by women.

>income tax is necessary to have a functioning society
Rome was most functional when it had only one tax which they only applied in wartime. The rate was about 0,1%-0,2% depending on the time and the scale of the war.
America was also at its best before income taxes were implemented with the 16th Amendment in 1913, and as the gouvernment and national debt grew after the invocation of women's suffrage, so too did income taxes which in effect slowed down the economy and by extension, hurt society.

Just some thoughts, maybe they're worth a penny.

>>133619316
Where's the evidence. Asking seriously

>>133618958
they dont actually like history they like the fake stories kikes in common core schooling taught them

>>133618958
Literally everything on that list is true. She's redpilled.

>>133621276
>Where's the evidence.
the romans have record of him as well as the jews. A fake man wouldnt be the focus of an empire.

>>133619316
Most likely the figure of Christ is the embodiment of many Jewish figures at the time, the Jews and romans were locked in bloody wars for decades and the Jesus figure is almost like a Gandhi

Anyway there probably wasn't a "Jesus Christ" asasingle man but the agglomerated or ideal of many men

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>>133618958
>The Rosenbergs were innocent

tell her that McCarthy was right and to look into the Venona papers. Women can't into history. Their emotions govern they way they write and interpret things. I'm reading a Churchill biography authored by a woman and you can almost feel the estrogen as you read it.

>>133620325
What were the buffalo trains, then?

>>133621546
Lol butthurt goat fucker

>>133621659
Or he was just a nutter who believed he was the son of god

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>>133621740
yeah, we killed the buffalo, no denying that. But we are bringing them back with conservation. Teddy Roosevelt did more for the environment than any vegan whole foods shopping faggot did and he hunted for game all over the world

>>133620906
>>133621276
Josephus' Antiquities of the Jews, and Tacitus' Annals both make specific reference to Christ. Only scholars with an axe to grind try and say these are later fabrications; they're widely believed to be authentic. The multiple traditions that existed quite early after the supposed period of the death of Jesus, ending up being written in the form of the various Gospels, including the Gnostic books (Thomas in particular), that while harboring different theological influence point to a commonality of statements or quotes by the figure of Jesus.

There isn't any reason to doubt the historicity of Jesus, whether or not he's the Messiah is another thing entirely; I don't know why that's so difficult to understand

>>133621590
What roman records specifically?

>>133621738
After you've finished, read the Churchill biographies by David Irving.

>>133621853
he most likely did exist although they might want you to be believe otherwise because the only person they hate as much as Christ is some Austrian painter and we all know how he is portrayed in history

>>133620766
soße?

>>133622053
I read Churchill's War vol I. I have vol II and will begin it sometime soon. I hope he finishes vol III sometime soon

>>133621853
Or not, he is most likely the indelicate representation of peaceful resistance and religious fundunentalism introduced to Jewish society at a time of great struggle against the romans

Because that is historicaly what it was

>>133621954
>Tacitus wrote 116 years after the birth of Christ
>Josephus wrote 93 years after birth of christ

You dont expect history changed inbetween Christs supposed death and these guys writing about him?

>>133621276
Josephus and Tacitus

How will the world know you if you existed once every person you know dies?

>>133618958
>Believing that Prohibition worked
I was with you until you said that. Its funny how so many "red pilled" posters on here just repeat old feminist talking points and arguments. They are male feminists without even realizing it. Do more research.

>>133622184
Did you like vol I? I have yet to read them, havent had the time, but I am anxious to find out what Irving's detailed historical interpretation of Churchill's life is

>>133618958
To be fair she's right about Muslims hating the West because it supports Israel

>>133622306

ok, keep us posted cunt

>>133622385
his presentation of Churchill is very eye opening. It is refreshing since every other Churchill biography is all about licking his boots whereas this one is more critical of him. Irving may have his biases but he backs them all up with decades of interviews and archival research

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>>133621659

>>133619472
Did you like it?

Sack up and stick the red pill up their pussies. Men are more prone to critical thought by nature, and most women will accept a lot of your opinions when they see you've put thought into it. Politics and deep intellectual shit aside, if they see that you have common sense and wisdom about life, and you live it and prosper, they'll listen to you.

>>133622234
The gospels are all believed to date from the first century AD. As are now the Didache, and the Letters, mostly written by people who claimed to have been Apostles to or acquainted with people (Paul) who were Apostles of Jesus. That's quite a bit of attestation, more than we have for quite a few historical figures.

There is plenty of events that we know happened or people that we know to have existed with less historical attestation; or the reverse. The idea that Jesus is a completely fictitious character or even a conglomeration of figures from the time has no historical background and is purely ideological in nature

>>133622627
>Islam hates the west because it supports Israel

Then why do they hate Hindus? And Budists? And Africans? Why did they invade Spain? Sack Rome? Siege Constantinople a dozen times? Raid the Mediterranean coast of europe for slaves? Take over Sicily and krete? Slaughter the Jews of median? Invade the Balkans? Siege Vienna? Attack the Crimea? Tear down and replace Christian churches?

You are a retard if you think Islam is mad about Israel

>>133621222
>>133621255
>>133621255
No a drunk fat Irishman who teaches GCSE did actually.
The Indians had uses for everything on the buffalo, which included things to make headdresses out of you fucking spaz. A buffalo is a big animal.
>Tongue=Hairbrush
>Ribs=sleds for winter
>skin=tepees
>>133622071
GCSE

>>133622926
Nigga I can't read that on a phone!

>>133623027
>Men are more prone to critical thought

they can't think critically. Emotions override everything with them. Hillary Clinton lost the election and refused to address her supporters because she was too busy crying uncontrollably. They put her on all of these lists as one of the most powerful, fearsome females in the world and she can't even lose an election gracefully.

>>133622822
I'll be sure to read it. Thanks for the info

>>133621659
But Gandhi was a real person you fucking clown
>>133620906
Romans had records of him autismo

>>133623359
Well, not all women were like that. Ann Coulter for one, was one of Trump's earliest supporters, and is extremely logical.

>>133623368
no problem. You should read his others if you haven't already

>>133623115
Indians hunted the bison to near extinction and they were actually closer to savages than dindu nuffin friendly earth spirits

>>133623465
she's different. She never married because she would be a horrible wife. She lacks feminine qualities that a proper wife should possess. Having read 5 of her books, she's one of the only female authors I respect

>>133622306

prohibition did work though you defeatist cuck

>>133618958
>Nixon expanded the Vietnam War

How much more cucked can you be? Tricky dicky dindu nuffin he ended the war and opened relations with China, all while suffering from extreme autism, but just cause his presidency ended in disgrace he's treated as literally Hitler.

Meanwhile JFK escalated the war but is seen as an iconic pres because he was telegenic, was assassinated, and didn't bathe the world in nuclear fire.

>>133623646
this is an area of American history that I haven't given much thought to. I know there was a lot of bootlegging, i.e. Joe Kennedy. But we did end up amending the constitution because of prohibition, and I seriously doubt that will ever happen with dude weed lmao

Most girls who "likes history" usually only knows about slavery in America and historic "injustices" against the bbc.

>>133623115
Tongue is for eatin' you slack jawed faggot. Brushes are made from bone.

>>133623704
I can't be the only one who thinks that Kennedy being a Catholic and getting assassinated wasn't a coincidence

>>133623875
Girls.don't like anything in the same way men do. They are only capable of liking Chad's attention and approval. Everything else is for this purpose

>>133623646
>t. male feminist

>>133618958
It's about Hitler isn't it?

>>133623875
>slavery in America and historic "injustices" against the bbc.

that's all you ever learn in public school here. They might as well rename it white guilt studies. What does Norwegian history teach about Vidkun Quisling?

>>133623439
Even if Jesus didn't exist how is he not "real" in an objective sense?

>>133621258
>racial denominations was between ancient Greeks and 'barbaroi'.
Can you give me some academic proof, that the Greek distinction between Greeks as barbarians was derived from a hereditary notion of race or a cultural inferiority, which isn't necessary linked to "race"?

>>133623117
Science historian proves the shroud was legit and the markings of blood around the crown (the crown of thorns) was only performed on Jesus. Other crucifixions didn't have that. Theres a lot more than that, AB- blood type on the shroud, chemicals in the blood released during trauma (which a forger in that era wouldn't know about), pollen and material samples date the piece to around 30AD Jerusalem.

>>133624412
*between Greeks and Barbarians

>>133623626
Fair point. She's like a white male with tits and a vag. Even her voice sounds manly, more manly than 99% of her neocon opponents like Max Boot, who has a HORRIBLE voice

https://youtu.be/rpJZh92hsaY?t=8m48s

>>133624412
Not the same guy, but if I recall the distinction was tied largely to language (origins of term barbarian is that Greeks believed all foreign languages simply sounded like "barbarbarbar")

>>133623115
>GCSE
lmao

>>133618958
You fat oaf.
>'likes history'

I too enjoy stories, written many years after particular events actually happened.
Do you watch CNN too? Its clear you believe anything written in a book and or told to you. Faggot.

>>133622306
thanks for the noproofs brainlet

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People almost always stick to history that reinforces their existing beliefs about the world. Shit only changes incrementally around the outside, where cognitive dissonance builds up around shit you used to believe.

Don't act like 90% of you guys are any different.

>>133623117
Open the image in new tab

>>133623115
That's just standard practice. Every group used as many parts of an animal as possible. Europeans used to use basically 99% of every animal. We still do to some extent but we throw away a lot of the final product these days anyway.

>>133620766
Some tribes in the West would drive entire herds of buffalo off of cliffs. Yeah fuck those savages

>>133620906
Because Tacitus said he was real, and he was a pagan.

>>133618958
Happens with me too.

>>133624465
Hahahahhahaha
Hahahaha
This site is Always good for a laugh

>>133625244
You mean the guy who lived long after Jesus died. Mmmmmmmk

>>133625244

Tacitus said his followers were real. Not necessarily Jesus himself.

>>133625587
>>133625244
Accepting the existence of truth doesn't necessarily coinside with accepting his holy abilities. Even if he existed, he still simply could have been a very succesful cult leader, as there have been quite a few in history

>>133624975
give us an example

>>133625851
He's literally in four different religions, and all four hate each other. He was definitely a real dude, and the fact that jews hate him, and want you to hate him, is all the reason I need to believe he's teaching the right stuff.

>>133624412
One way the Greeks distinguished themselves from Barbarians was how they drunk wine. Wine was a very big part of the Greek culture. They believed that they drunk it professionally while the barbarians only drunk wine to get drunk.

>>133618958

My sister has a degree in history. Literally only knows bluepills

>>133618958
>Blacks invented peanut butter
>peanut butter
How is that even an invention? It's like a fucking one-step process; grind peanuts. But then again, to niggers that's probably some fucking high-tech shit.

>physical traits we notice and categorize as racial only exist because spaniards 500 years ago said they did
>what the cultmarx actually believes

>>133626686
there are so many fucking white male inventors that we can't possibly name them all. But George Washington Carver is recognized for inventing peanut butter and because if he was black. If a white man invented peanut butter no one would remember his name and no one would care

>>133619316
this idea that jesus never existed is a very new concept. Its only in our modern fucked up age and after decades of social and intellectual programing (deprogramming?) that literally anyone would take such a claim seriously for even a moment.

Yes folks, jesus existed. I'm sorry you're so cucked.

>>133627065
imagine if they started memeing that Muhammad didn't exist

>>133618958
OP did you learn history from speculation on the internet and Rush Limbaughs historical fan fiction literature?

>>133626905
>if we gave everyone violins they would all write sympathies

only a Marxist could be as naive to believe this

>>133627276
would you rather schoolchildren read Rush Revere or indigenous genderqueer feminist postcolonial studies?

>>133627276
t. Roastie getting her doctorate in queer African American literature

>>133618958
>Race was invented in the 1800s

This one is not entirely wrong. The concept of race has of course always existed. But the SCIENTIFIC concept of race was developed by anthropologists in the 19th century and later expanded by genetic research.

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>>133620270

Good call.

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>>133618958

>The 1950s were dull and boring

I hate this. Probably a philistine, social media addict and attention whore. The entire concept of boredom is bullshit. Intelligent people should never be bored. There is always something incredible to learn, to try or to feel.

>>133627421
Since the second one doesn't actually exist your post really doesn't make any sense

>>133627688
>But the SCIENTIFIC concept of race

only a Nazi would say such a thing. The same Nazis that found a correlation between smoking and lung cancer, which we all know is just debunked pseudoscience

>>133620707
>All most all history majors or lovers are usually red pill


Hmmmm. I disagree. Yes: history lovers tend to be red-pilled, but history majors tend to go into history because it's a low-energy major. They bring their low-energy, or pre-existing biases, into the major and invent history - or rather misplace focus.

>>133618958
>innocent Muslims

>>133627421
But propagating blind patriotism and embelishment is not really history. Because that just leads to retards who don't understand how today's landscape relates to the past.

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>>133627899
yeah but this exists and is the author is taught in many schools

>>133618958
>Invented blood plasma
Ok, this woman whoever it is, is a damned retard. Plasma always existed in the blood, it is a component.

Seriously that blind claim makes my blood fucking boil.

>>133628023
it's preferable to teaching children at a young age that they should be ashamed of their nation and its history

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>>133621116

Richard Nixon didn't expand the war, he changed the emphasis. Operation Linebacker, baby!.

Also, you've assumed away OP's concern. It's the extra nuances that no one bothers to learn.

>>133619892
>teach
>women
>absolutely haram

>>133621590
oh please, the romans claim a lot of weird shit happened during those times

>>133618958
Yea, or they just made up some bullshit, and when you tell her she's wrong and you can prove it they get mad and cuntish.

>>133621258

Thanks for the Rome knowledge. I'm a history savant, and I didn't even know that. I recall reading Caesar's commentaries that the wars were often financed by the generals themselves. Crassus in Parthia, Caesar in Gaul (less so), etc.

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Sometimes when I am alone at night I contemplate, who are truly the shills of bait threads? The poster or the replies?

>>133618958
prohibition didnt work.....

Never take a woman's word seriously. They are not even humans.

>>133621276

There's more historical evidence for Jesus than Alexander the Great.

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Be honest. How many girls have met that actually profess to 'like history'?

>>133618958

implying women will be smart. women are like little cute dogs ; treat them that way. have intellectual conversations with men.

>>133621738

There's your problem. Only read Churchill's writings about Churchill. Where's her fucking nobel prize?

>>133628176
If you consider it teaching shame then you re going about it the wrong way. No nation is perfect why create a fantastical belief that they live in a country with a perfect history I mean unless you re just trying to raise a future yes man ?

>>133627781
it's impossible for smart people to get bored

>>133628592
obviously things like slavery and the civil war should be taught but it shouldn't be 80 percent of the content you discuss in k-12 history. That was my experience

>>133628176
Also we should probably stop watering down child hood education as it is, we have been giving kids a farcical foundation for understanding the world around them for too long

>>133628405
The truth is we became the Jew long ago. More than real kikes I'm afraid.

>>133618958
>Hitler was the bad guy during World War II
True and not true.
>The Crusades was Christians slaughtering innocent Muslims
A lack of knowledge of the events 200 years prior
>Race was invented in the 1800s
Race as a separate species isn't real, but race in the sense of dog breeds is real.
>Saddam Hussein did 9/11
WUT
>FDR "saved" the economy
WUT
>Blacks invented peanut butter, gas mask, traffic light, and blood plasma
WUT
>Jesus never existed
Unknown.
>Einstein invented the atomic bomb
WUT
>Columbus was responsible for killing millions of Native Americans
Small Pox was responsible.
>Native Americans were great environmentalists
WUT
>White settlers destroyed the buffalo
True
>Prohibition "didn't work"
True
>Richard Nixon expanded the Vietnam War
Objectively False
>The Founding Fathers believed in "separation of church and state"
"I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church & State." ~T. Jefferson
>The Rosenbergs were innocent
(((Who?)))
>The 1950s were dull and boring
WUT?
>Muslim terrorists are poor and uneducated and hate us because we support Israel
If you make allies, you'll make enemies. If we allied with Muslims, Israel would hate us as well as others. Pick your poison. We could choose to support neither.
>Income tax is necessary to have a functioning society
Some tax is necessary. Some government spending is. Peace through strength. Much is wasted.

>>133628747
don't wait for me to write a new curriculum. Public education is fucked irreparably

>>133628713
Unfortunately true but a lot of social political movements in us history can be traced back to those as igniting periods of time for racial tensions

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>>133618958
>Hitler was the bad guy during World War II
>Prohibition "didn't work"
>The Founding Fathers believed in "separation of church and state"
These ones are true.

>>133628997
Agreed

>>133618958
It's funny how much liberals hate nixon because of MUH watergate and not realizing he was pretty progressive

>>133625472
>doesn't have a refutation
>scared of the implications
>nervously laughs at the shroud
Enjoy Hell, anon.

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>>133618958
>>133629303
>White settlers destroyed the buffalo
Oh and this one

>>133621853
Even if that's true it's actually irrelevant.

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>>133629303
>Current year
>Thinks Hitler did something wrong

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>>133628072
I've never seen that book and it doesn't seem to exist, but "A people's History of the United States" really is a good book that shows how a lot of people have really been fucked over in our country, and honestly generally points the finger at whites as the bad people in history because they have been in control for almost the entire history of the United States.

>>133630252
That's pretty honorary, actually