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>uk is no guns can we address this myth? it's easier

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>uk is no guns

can we address this myth?
it's easier to get a rifle or a shotgun here than it is in most US states.
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Probably legal like in Australia.

You are allowed to own an RPG if you please, but you must go through all the checks and don't quote me but one of them means joining r he army in some way.

But clearly UK doesn't like guns you can hide.
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>>133611088
easier than most US states? we can buy shotguns at Walmart for $149 on our 18th birthday
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>>133611088
>it's easier to get a rifle or a shotgun here than it is in most US states.

In most US states you can simply walk into Wal-Mart and buy a shotgun or rifle right then. You have to fill out a form and wait five minutes but unless you're a felon or nutcase you're in and out in 20 minutes or less. Even pistols are available right away at gun shops.
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It's easy to own guns in the UK, the big difference is that "self defense" isn't a legally accepted reason for owning one.

If you have a reason (you're a farmer, target shooter etc.) then it's fine, you just need to justify why you need one.
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>>133611088
>manual in 223

Bud I can buy ARs at Walmart

You might be better off than some of the other Eurovision states, but to to say it's easier than most us states is laughable
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>>133611088

>semi auto in .22
>[Laughs in freedom]
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>>133611088
>.22
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>>133611088
>it's easier to get a rifle or a shotgun here than it is in most US states.
2/10 made me rage just a little bit
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>>133611088

>.22 cal
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>>133611088
I dont buy it, but if its true, what can you do with the gun?

In most parts of America I can purchase a firearm for personal defense and use it for that purpose. There arent stupid limitations on action, caliber, or magazine capacity either in many states. I can actually pick out a functional handgun for myself, my mother, my father, and if someone tries to "culturally enrich us" we can pull out the handgun and shoot them.

In Britain what can you do? You need a license to get butter knives.
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>>133611088
It can take up to 9 months in some counties just to get rifle license for a lever action. You're wrong OP.
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>>133611088
>AR platform manual action

d-does that exist?
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>>133611522
No?
Pistols take a check that is longer than asking if you vote Democrat or Repub.
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>.22
>.223
kek good luck against Mohammads illegal 5.56 and 7.62 full auto, they just want to bring you the religion of peace tho so no worries bud
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>>133612253
It does over here unfortunately.
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>>133612295
what state do you live in? my checks have never been over 30 min.
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>>133612253
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_DaCOsP7QM

poor bongs
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>>133612295
Depends on what state. In CO I was able to buy and pistol in about 45 minutes. Albeit right after sandy hook it took 3 days for the same check because of how many people bought ARs expecting them to be banned.
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>>133612149
Why does it have Easter Island horns?
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>>133612456
KEK
at least I own a semi auto mini 14
actually two
and a lot of 30rds
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>>133612456
Damn. That's pretty shitty.
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Our gun laws are fucking pathetic, and an insult to your forefathers.

In Scotland you need a licence for an air gun.
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>>133611088
except normal people will never be able to obtain a permit.
It is the ultimate nanny state tactics
>"look guys we are not nanny state, it is prefectly legal, you just need this *permit"
>*unobtainable
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>>133612621
Bin that air rifle
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>>133611088
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>>133612717
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>>133612621
>In Scotland you need a licence for an air gun
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>>133612456
>>133612355

I think I just died a little inside
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>>133612456
I love how his face is showing the barely hidden shame of a cuck.

>>133612622
It's also worth noting that under law you don't own a gun, and the state can take it away at any time, and doesn't even have to give a reason.
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>>133612524
Smaller mouths to laugh at the caliber-lets
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>>133611088
Why would someone want a "manual action" AR? Why can't you have a semi-auto handgun? Why would you want to buy a full sized rifle chambered in .22?

Also, it isn't as easy. In the U.S. you don't need a reason for owning a gun, it is a right.
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>>133612208
All jurisdictions in US have castle doctrine?
All jurisdictions in US have 'stand your ground' laws?
All jurisdictions in US are without 'duty to retreat' laws?
All jurisdictions in US are without any limitations on types of firearms and/or silly additional restrictions on their operation?
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>>133612785
This my American cousin, is what happens when the public become brainwashed socialist cucks. Don't let it happen to your country. We can be sent to prison for just defending ourselves.
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>>133612524
>He doesn't know those "statues" are just the remains of giant buried goats poking out of the ground
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>>133612456
Yuck.
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>>133612779
>>133612717
>>133612621

don't you need a license for paintball guns in Australia?
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>22 cal
Are you trying to get your target to laughing themselves to death?
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>>133612762
>Britbongs actually willingly surrender their weapons
What a bunch of faggots over on that island.
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>>133612986
Airsoft is illegal in Australia
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>>133612893
In English law it used to go further than a right, and actually be a lawful duty to be armed, to the extent where not having the weaponry that your stature is meant to have would get you into trouble.
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>>133612001
>>133612046
>forgets that any UK citizen could buy a .22 AK/AR, lop off the barrel and attached a home-made silencer before he started on a muslim killing spree of justice
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>>133612717
>got an air weapon?
>or
>license it surrender it
are governments retarded? Just put the or in same line as license/surrender
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>>133612295
Here in VA I can buy any pistol I want from a gun show and don't even have to worry about background checks..
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>>133612456
dat freedom
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>>133613071
>these are the guys calling us Amerifats, Ameridumbs, >53%..etc

wew fuckin' lad
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Post your guns britbong.
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>>133613071
The police can "surrender" weapons on your behalf, so it's likely that people applied for the licence didn't get it granted for (((some reason))) and had it surrendered for them.
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>>133613223
I don't have any, officer.
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>>133611088
>it's easier to get a rifle or a shotgun here than it is in most US states.

>Live in ultra liberal state
>Go to gun store
>Pick out a gun
>Show ID
>15 minute background
>Swipe card
>Walk out the store with gun

I hardly doubt it's that easy.
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>>133611088
>it's easier to get a rifle or a shotgun here than it is in most US states.

what? I bought an AR-15 in a walmart parking lot from some guy on armslist, cash for gun it can't be simpler.
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>>133612986
Airsoft is illegal. Paintball is a prohibited weapon. Handguns are legal. Go figure.
t. Former OZ IPSC national team member.
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He fought for FREEDOM

>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/11576963/WW2-veteran-89-stashed-arsenal-of-weapons.html
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>>133612295
The last time I bought a pistol I was in and out in an hour and that was mostly because the guy was trying to teach some dumb woman how the background check works.
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>>133612340
Yeah, how will a .223 ever defeat a 5.56? It's just not possible.
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>>133613591
>Airsoft is illegal. Paintball is a prohibited weapon
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>>133613601
This is exactly what he fought for, he just didn't know it.
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>there are Americans ITT that buy their firearms from FFLs
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>>133611088
>all callibers

...
20mm?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ft2j6J4NcY
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>>133613127
IIRC that was the Assize of Arms of 1181.

On the other hand, if you hoarded weapons, the King would "Avenge himself on your body".

/pol/ would love this bit:
Item, no Jew shall keep in his possession a shirt of mail or a hauberk, but he shall sell it or give it away or alienate it in some other way, so that it shall remain in the king's service.
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>you will probably see the repeal of the second amendment in your lifetime
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>>133613139
>using a 22 in hopes of killing people
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>>133612046
>>133612149
.22lr is what Cho Seung Hui used to kill his victims at VTech. 32 kills.
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>>133613810
>.22 won't kill people meme
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>>133613777
It will get nullified, but its never going to be outright repealed.
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>>133612295
Not sure where you are, but I've never waited more than 15-20 minutes total to buy a pistol (from a licensed dealer I mean).
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>>133613777
feels sad man
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>>133613777
Not happening. I've been following firearms law and trends since 1987.
Gun ownership is more entrenched as an accepted right than at any time in the last century.
Any attempt to 'round them up' will end in civil war. Red Team Planner anon admitted as much.
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>>133613139
>buy a .22 AK/AR, lop off the barrel and attached a home-made silencer before he started on a muslim killing spree of justice

You planning to make them laugh themselves to death with a .22?
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>>133613886
.22 is a toy caliber
Even 9mm is harmless
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>>133613777
bullshit. commie fags will get wasted before that ever happens.
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>>133613777
>in your lifetime

t. fag who wouldn't die defending his rights.
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>>133613882
Also a Glock 19 in 9mm para.

>>133613920
Depends on Trumps SCOTUS picks. At the moment the court is refusing to accept cases on the 2nd, leaving decisions in various circuit courts at odds. At some point they will have to take the issue up. If Trump stacks the deck well then it will be hardcore entrenched and much wailing and gnashing of the teeth will be heard in liberal states. Time will tell.
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>>133611088
That picture is bullshit. To get a rifle you have to be a member of a gun club AND have a meeting with the police AND justify why you need that particular calibre AND prove you have a secure cabinet that no one else has access to and then you have to pay and wait for the license to arrive which can take months.

Shotguns are slightly easier to get hold of but I don't know much about them.
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>>133611088
>.22
BAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!!
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>>133614191
>.22 is a toy caliber
>Even 9mm is harmless

This guy is right.

You've gotta shoot yourself with the little rounds to build up your immunity first though.
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>>133614191
Leaf, that was so lame I'm not even getting out my blower.
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>>133614221
>>133614066
Things can change quickly. We went from making America look like gun grabbers, to ... Well, what we are now, in less than a century.
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>>133613777
(((they))) will keep chipping away at it, and the cuckservatives will allow it.
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>>133614296
Goddamn imagine being this cucked. How the fuck did you bongs let it get so bad?
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>>133614191
>Even 9mm is harmless
pretty much
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>>133614410
Oh, you'll find out. Little bit by little bit that will be considered normal by new generations, changes in wording of law...
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>>133614410
Mass liberal brainwashing over a course of 50 years. It didn't help that some nutter shot a school either. Although I believe it was a false flag to let the government take the guns away.
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>>133614410
OZ is like that too, although not as bad. Still, roughly one in six able bodied men has a firearms license.
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>>133614410
We had some of the loosest gun laws in the world up until the 50s or something. Then after a few high profile massacres we acted in an hysterical way and the laws got gradually more and more restrictive until we reached the point where we are now.
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>semi auto 22
>manual action 223

O I am laffing
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>>133612295
Buying a pistol is no different than a rifle and most states allow privates sales, so you can meet someone in a parking lot and exchange cash for the gun and walk away.
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>>133614535
Is this image a joke?
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>>133614535
New York used FMJ because it was 'more humane'.
Best 9mm hollow points are in the 85% one stop shot zone. FMJ 53%, after that you keep shooting till they bleed out.

My guess is they wanted niggers shot to death rather than recovering to sue.
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>>133614410
letting women and the irish to vote
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>>133611721
They also don't accept target shooting as a reason unless you're already part of a club.
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>>133611088
>.22 caliber
>manual .223
>bolt action everything else
Wow
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>>133611088
>it's easier to get a rifle or a shotgun here than it is in most US states.

Lol no, fuck off.
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>>133614535
Probably 2-3 cops unloading into the guy. A cops definition of "incapacitated" is on the ground and not moving whatsoever.
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>>133614692
>we acted

Are you sure a very tiny group didn't act in such a manner, which the government treated as a nationwide outcry because it was convenient?
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>>133614864
We can also get lever action cowboy guns like Marlin's.
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>>133614642
He was a known pedo, protected by the local chief of police. Twice the local plod had tried to take his guns because he was unstable, twice over ruled.
Case data sealed for 50 years as if it was an official secret.
False flag, or upper class pedos protecting other upper class pedos - see Westminster Pedophile Dossier.
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>>133611088
This is without a doubt the best post I've seen all day. Now, where can we buy guns, and what are the requirements to get them?
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>>133614744
>no mini 14
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>.22
May as well be illegal.
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>>133614995
Wouldn't surprise me at all if all that were true bud.
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>>133615119
What stuns me always is that people gave them up.

Just hide them in the loft until it all blows over then bring them down again.
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>>133614805
No.
Handguns with round nose ammo are not very good stoppers.
There was, IIRC, a case of a guy on PCP & Heroin in New Jersey who took seven rounds of 9mm, two 12 gauge slugs. One round had cut both optic nerves. Blind, he was still reloading to shoot it out when a cop ran up behind him and crushed his head in with an overarm swing of a shotgun.
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>>133612208
It's the basic right to self defense that matters most.

Guns democratize this so a woman can defend herself from the largest men and even deter large groups ( nobody wants to risk getting shot )

- Castle doctrine is fine
- Stand your ground is fine, but only a nice to have, not essential
- Duty to retreat is everywhere I believe. Personally I think Dueling should be legal, but this is just not that important.
- Silly restrictions suck. We put up with them to defuse pressure and allow cities to get along with the rural areas, but the cities then complain that people can just buy the gun in the hinterlands and bring them in.

Better to restructure life around the ubiquity of Guns. That means letting more people carry, so there is always a good guy in the crowd with a gun.
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>>133613777
As much of a meme as it is, there genuinely is too many guns in civilian hands for this to ever actually happen.
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>>133615187
Yeah it baffles me too. People truly are cucks in this country.
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>>133614864
This
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>>133614535

That guy just took his daily .22 to the head and built up immunity.

Try it!
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It's pretty easy to own a rifle here, you just need a hunting license.
However, it's really expensive since you have to pay for:
>obligatory hunting course/training
>license itself
>yearly renewal fee
>a safety locker for your rifles (required by law or you can't own weapons)
>rifle + ammunition
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>>133614846
But Ireland has looser gun laws than England.
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>(((inflation)))
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>>133611088
can you imagine the bedwetting terror the UK would be plunged into should a trained capable marksman with a .50 rifle started killing random muzzies
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>>133611088
No it isn't
Stop spreading misinformation government shill
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>>133614827
Yeah, that's a benefit of hollow points, but you don't want the bullet going through the target, through the drywall and killing someone in the next room/apartment. That's why hollow points are best self defense rounds.
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Your picture is irrelevant because it's self defense what is illegal. You can't just go and buy a gun for self defense and almost always using one for such purpose will land you in a court and possibly jail sentence.

Not saying my country is any better, in fact we got some of the worse gun legislations in the world. Happened many times that people that uses a gun to defend himself from home invaders, even armed ones, end up with a +5 year sentence.

It sucks, I think it's legacy from Franco's regime, but socialists that got in government a few years later made it even worse (Felipe Gonzalez, 13 years).
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>>133615391
Aka standard costs of owning a firearm, and a lot of that is one time purchase
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>>133614964
This.
History of shotguns going on license: In the sixties handguns and rifles required registration, shotties didn't.
Two cops were shot in a robbery with a Browning Hi Power (pistol).
Head coppers then start a campaign that their cops are dead because sawed off shotguns are the chosen weapon of the criminal class. Cops got their way.
Never a recorded case of a sawed off shottie used in a crime prior to that, from that year on they were the weapon of choice of the criminal class, after all, they had the official stamp of approval.
The Hi Power almost certainly came from govt. stores.
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>>133614964
>Are you sure a very tiny group didn't act in such a manner, which the government treated as a nationwide outcry because it was convenient?

I have no idea, I wasn't born when Hungerford happened and I was one year old when Dunblane happened. I do know that there was public pressure on the government both times but I don't know who in particular was responsible.
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>>133611088
nice digits, but
>semi auto in 22 cal
>manual action in .223 and up.

what kind of shit is that? may as well call it noguns.

and that ridiculous cartoon villain revolver.

uk 100% cucked.
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It would be nice to have FREEEDOM to get one of those space age Glocks.
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>>133611088
>Easier
No, anon. The only part that I had to go through an FFL on my AR10 was the stripped lower, and that took 10 minutes once I was in the store. Everything else, I ordered and had shipped to my doorstep. And it's in something a wee bit bigger than .223 and it's semi-auto, not "manual" action.
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>>133615578
>Never a recorded case of a sawed off shottie used in a crime prior

Sort of like Commiefornia banning .50 BMG despite one never being used in a crime.
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>>133614862
So... just join a club?

Can you use it for self defense? That's the real question. I know that one guy went to jail for killing home invaders
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>>133615187
They were all registered.
Registration equals confiscation.
Martin Bryant used an AR15 at Port Arthur that had been seized from its legal owner by the Victorian Police, it was never explained how it came to be in his hands.
Queensland, a more redneck state, didn't have registration at the time. Based on import data they estimated compliance with the confiscation was less than 30% in that state. Which is why Milsurp M1 Carbine and AK food can no longer be imported.
I had to surrender a bunch of handguns when they came for those, but spent my compensation money on new ones that complied with the new laws. Kept my Glock, I had the first legal length barrel into the country.
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>>133611088
>Walk into Walmart
>Point at Mossberg 500
>Pull out credit card and driver's license
>Fill out one form
>Associate puts rifle in trunk of my car and hands me a plastic bag with the ammo
Wow

>Walk into fun store
>Declare that I want the fuddy five hand cannon
>Pull out cards
>Fill 2 forms
>Come back 3 days later and take my fuddy five.
UK sucks
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Anyone that wants to buy an unregistered firearm thats completely off your government's database grid


All you have to do is take a trip to a country like Afghanistan and ask around, and you can bring back a nice assault rifle and plenty of ammunition to spare.

hurry up, business is booming so come get yours

btw not a weapons merchant here. :^)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRte65F_KRk&ytbChannel=Raja%20Vicky
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>>133612295

Nope. I live in Texas and have my CHL.

They don't even do a background check on me anymore.
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>>133614692
>letting a few dead kids dictate gun laws
We have a school shooting every week and we still have guns. You bongs will never understand freedom
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>>133611258

You are retarded.

In no place in Australia can you own an RPG. Service in the ADF has nothing to do with civiliam firearm ownership at all either.
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>>133611088
haha .22
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>>133615940
>Come back 3 days

Do you have a concealed carry permit? Normally you can get around pistol wait times with one.
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why do you goys want to be able to defend yourselves?
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>>133611088
Cool. Muhamad can easy get a gun and kill you. What a liberal country
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>>133615440
Only at the BBC and the Mayor of London's office.
The rest of the country would be quietly grinning and saying "Part & parcel".
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>>133613886
>.22 will kill more than one person meme
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>>133615465
I know. I have a couple of hundred rounds of Silver Tips stashed. FMJ for range use.
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You need to teach kebabs how get it because acid and trucks is not effective
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>>133616076
omg these kikes have to go. hitler was right.
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>>133616020
Well you can own some heavy military stuff with some very vaguely defined upper levels. The point is it's not like Australia doesn't have gun laws, it's more like they're meritocratic.

Who gives a fuck about gun laws?
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>>133615950
What machine tools/skills to make a real gun from scratch?

Saw a mini lathe at harbor freight tools for under 600 bucks...
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>>133615958
No registration either. I think open carry was just passed also
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>>133611496
Must be a new englander or west coast.
>>
While it might be fun for Americans to laugh at other country's gun restrictions, and it might makes others feel better that they're not as bad on one particular aspect as another country, this is not very helpful.

We really need an infographic that has a three tier list of what you can get and what it should be for "I want something, anything at all, NOW", "I have time and money to spare, but would rather not wait too long" and "I'm in no hurry at all."

All this will be ignored though because this isn't as funny as going "lol cuck'd"
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>>133615508
Interesting thing here is that self defense is no longer a legal reason to own a firearm (used to be), but in twenty years only one person who shot an intruder has been convicted. He admitted to smoking twenty cones and waiting for the burglar to come back, then shooting him from cover without warning.
I think if he hadn't been doped up he would have been cleared as well.
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>>133615920
>Can you use it for self defense?

It's a bit of a grey area from what I understand but I think the burden would be on you to prove that your adversary had the intent to kill and you had no other option to stop them.
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>>133616369
It isn't America's responsibility to support our firearm laws. It's us that have to make the change not them. It's all up to us.
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>>133615857
I own left, used to own right until minimum barrel length laws came in.
You can, but you have to comply with 'target shooting'.
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>>133615893
Noice. I played with one of the original Dutch AR10s back in the day.
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>>133616526
>It isn't America's responsibility to support our firearm laws.
Not at all what I was saying. Try reading it again.

Even offering recommendations for certain models within the laws is more helpful than shitposting.

This is one of the few things that we rarely talk about on this board that is really serious.
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>>133613777
>Lifetime
My death would be related
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>>133616003
Blah blah blah. Niggers and retards are the problem. Give them anything and they fuck up the societies they're imbedded in.
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>>133611088
California, Illinois, New York, Connecticut, New Jersey are fairly restrictive. The rest of the U.S. just requires a background check done through the National Instant Check System (NICS)at the point of sale for long arms.
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>>133613777
Changing the Constitution requires new amendments to be ratified by three-fourths of the States (38 of 50 States). Current trends are making guns more available and able to be carried in public more often. While some might try to take your guns, nobody is going to be successful.
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>>133611088
>it's easier to get a rifle or a shotgun here than it is in most US states.
lamo no, I walked into a sporting good store yesterday, presented my ID and walked out with a semi-out 9mm carbine.
You wibbly-wobbles-banger-shoots need a license.
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>>133616324
People who read history.
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>>133611088
>.22
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>>133611496
But you've got Muslims now who can do the same.
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>>133616352
Nigger do you have a problem with New England
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>>133616369
That's a good idea but I don't know enough about English gun laws to make one. lol cuck'd
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>>133611088
>.22
>straight pulls
>bolt actions

It's a joke m8
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>>133612295
Alabama here. State issued CCW permit means I don't even have to do the background check. Took about ten minutes to buy my last handgun.
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We literally give guns away with car promos and shit
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>>133616331
There are several sites dedicated to home builds. Try cncguns.com as a starting point
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>>133615274
The danger with dueling is one or more parties might be compelled to participate.
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what's with all these rambos here dissing .22?

it'll still send you to the hospital for a nice surgery or two.

and can kill you as well.
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>>133611088
>.22 or manual ak-47
>fudd guns

Guys we can have guns too! :^)
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>>133616350

Yep.

Can open carry all guns, but still requires a CHL to carry a pistol.
Can have a gun in your car with zero license needed.
Can open carry long knives
Can carry a gun on college campus (though private colleges have the right to prohibit it)
Also the strongest Castle Doctrine in the nation.

Texas is one step away (Constitutional Carry) to being among the GOAT regarding gun laws.
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>>133615274
>Duty to retreat is everywhere I believe

No it isn't, most states don't have duty to retreat.
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>>133616734
--->/k/. They may even have an infographic.
The very first /k/ "How to buy a gun in Australia" infographic was actually a copypasta of one of my posts back in 2008. There have been several much better ones since then.
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>>133616955
>muzzies decide to muzz out and shoot at people who will shoot back
>somehow hurting the argument for gun ownership while helping the argument for muslims
Nowhere but California, banger-nigger.
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>>133616956
Yes, namely that it's the most liberal part of the country, particular southern New England. Which is especially pathetic given that it's 90% white, all of the other blue states except maybe Minnesota can blame them voting blue on their minorities but you guys' whites are genuinely that cucked
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>>133616828
This gif makes me come.
There really is hope for the future.
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>>133612456
This is a little better.

https://youtu.be/X9fhEmufgbw
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>>133613702
The people itt don't know shit about firearms.
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>>133612132
>made me rage
triggered back to your safe space?
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>>133611496
My dad did that on his 16th birthday here in 1990. They changed the law so shotguns had to be registered in 1994 I believe
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>>133617854
No I'm still here :^)
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>we can have guns too guys
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POM=PRISONER OF MOTHERLAND= prisoners are not allowed guns

you cheeky little m8
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>>133611088
>uk is no guns
>can we address this myth?
>it's easier to draw a rifle or a shotgun on paper here than it is in most US states.
I'm sure you can draw your guns very well, bong-anon, but can you reach the end of the queue?
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>>133617704
This will give you some hope too

>Hillary cant barely get 45% in fucking CALIFORNIA
>Trump gets 69% in Alabama
>subtract Hillary niggers
>white high schoolers in bama are almost 90% for Trump likely then
>thats 1488-tier
>tfw
wew
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>>133612253
Coming to a NY law near you
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>>133611088
There was a guy from the U.S. that moved to the U.K. and he had tons on guns and was a member of a local gun club in some area of the U.K. killed his english wife and they found all his guns. he killed a few people in the U.S. but I don't remember his name.
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>>133612377
I've had a day delay before due to volume of calls to the system, didn't really bug me.(it was a day because it was about an hour before they closed, they called me after hours to tell me I was good to pick it up.)
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>>133612456
this is why brits are more thinner than yanks

they get a lot of workout.
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>>133618818
I member that. He was actually a firearms dealer in the UK too iirc.
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>>133613162
Anon, if its from an FFL, beyond a private sale, that's V@ level bad, especially if you knowingly did so.
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>rifle
firearms licenses are a fucking ballache brah
you need a very good reason to have one and need to disclose what firearms you buy and also how much of each calibre you will have at any one time

shotgun licenses on the other hand are a piece of piss but the downside is that you're limited to a max capacity of 3
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>only have a .177 air rifle
>everyone acts like I'm going to stage an insurgency or killing spree at any moment
>next door neighbour tried to get me to stop shooting in my back garden because she didn't want her sons seeing me from their bedroom
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>>133611088
>>>>>Easier than most states
>Walk into my lgs wanting to window shop
>They have a Chiappa Rhino in a display case
>How much is the Rhino?
>1.2K
>Fuck it, why not?
>Finishes paperwork in a couple minutes
>Makes pleasant conversation while the background check runs
>Walk out 20 minutes after I went in with my new fun
I don't have a CCW, I'm not a cop, and I don't even have any training. My sole qualification is a clean criminal record. How is that not easy?
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>>133612456
That's not even a real caliber.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WiLqPB4lU0
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>>133619238
wtf I hope you're just meming
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>>133619148
didnt they make airgun license too over there?


so now you need a license if you want to airsoft?
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>>133613882
The 22 wasn't likely the killer in his case, maybe wounded or slowed down the rabbits but the 9mm did the dirty work.
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>>133615438
Damn you could get one of each for less than 500$. Today you get one.
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>>133611088
If you can't own pistols are proper semitauto-rifles you're as good as not owning anything. You can have "guns" but can't have guns, deal with it
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>>133611088
>.22
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>>133612295
NC laws blow. You need a pistol permit from your counties sheriffs office. I lived in Wake and it took me about 3 weeks to get one permit. When I lived in Franklin which is a little moved removed from the city it took me a single full day. You need one permit per handgun and can purchase 5 at a time.
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>>133611088
>Easier than in most states

I can go on Armslist and have an anonymous cash transaction with no background check. Literally could not be easier
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>>133614577
U.S. progressives have a habit of getting buck fever and moving too quickly. They took their shot in 1994 with the Clinton Assault Weapons Ban. The problem for them was they didn't wait (or orchestrate) some sort of tragedy like Dunblaine or Port Aurther. Instead they proposed it out of the blue without a public outcry backing it and had to make concessions to get it passed. The first was defining an "assault weapon" as having more than two of the following features. A detachable magazine, a folding or collapsing stock, a pistol grip, a flash hider or a bayonet lug. Most manufacturers simply made the rifles with fixed stocks and no bayonet lug or flash hinder and kept right on building them. Attempts to amend the law were thwarted by the Republican takeover of the legislature that year. The second concession was a grandfather provision. There would be no buy backs. Existing rifles would be exempt. And finally the authors of the bill had to agree to a ten year sunset provision. The Republicans held the legislature for the next ten years, the AR15 went from being an expensive range toy to being the most popular rifle in America and the AWB died with a whimper in 2004 when it sunsetted. The main thing the law did was spur people to take up firearms and had the opposite effect of what was intended by the authors. Instead of curtailing gun ownership, it actually encouraged a whole new generation to embrace firearms. By the time Sandy Hook happened gun culture had become too entrenched to be done away with easily.
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>>133619361
That was just Scotland, but England will do it too soon I bet.

>>133619355
Not at all; it's disgusting. Apparently I'm a bad influence on them, and I should be ashamed of myself.
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>>133619361
not afaik
I've got a .22 air rifle and air pistol and no license
my shotgun license has also expired but they don't check up lol
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>>133611721
>Justifying yourself to the crown

So glad we left when we got the chance
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>>133614369
you also had a centralized core government, and for all the bureaucracy there each state is a minicountry with plenty of weapons to go around and alot of internalized rage currently pointed at the average politician. Currently few of them want to light that fuse(as even with the military involved, not accounting desertion, and total police maybe an effective force of 4m ... to try and supress(without causing an uproar) 325m of which a generous proportion are former military.
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>>133614642
Dunblaine was a twofer. It served to push through U.K. gun bans and took out victims of a pedophile ring who were inconvenient to the local government.
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>>133611088
>Easier than most US states

I can walk down a Chicago ally and find crates of AK-47s.
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>>133612456
that was the silliest thing i have watched all day. sounds like my bb gun
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>>133619783
It is a shockingly convenient attack, isn't it?
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>>133612921
A few states are cucked but even in those states you can shoot a home invader. If they don't have an explicit law they'll have case law that amounts to castle doctrine
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>>133614744
nice! I'm an AK-47/R700
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>>133618468
Prisoner of her Majesty = Brit.
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>>133612717
>won't even break the skin at 20ft
'weapon'
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>>133611088
>get a rifle or a shotgun here than it is in most US states.
so they give them away when you reroof your house or open a new bank account? because here they're literally given to people for arbitrary reasons.
pic related
>http://www.al.com/business/index.ssf/2017/07/alabama_roofing_company_giving.html
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>>133614964
>macadam shield shovel
>couldn't even stop small caliber bullets
>was also a shitty, heavy, backbreaking shovel
lolcanadians
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>not having the greatest battle implement ever devised delivered right to your front door
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>>133619148
>you need a very good reason to have one
Tell them you want to go on a jihad
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>>133620295
and if they say no I can go to the papers calling them racist bigots for not letting me express my faith
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the only reason i would get a firearm would be an air rifle so i could shoot grey squirrels with, but i'm pretty sure you either need a permit for those or you're not allowed to buy them online and have to do it in person
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>>133620295
One /k/ommando put Remove Kebab as his reason for purchasing a short barreled rifle. It was denied by another /k/ommando in the ATF because the signature was wrong, not because Remove Kebab was unacceptable.
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>>133619332
Damn
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>>133619361
thats the scots. We went mental over airsoft guns being reclassified recently, so much so that the lord that proposed it backed down.

air guns are over 18s only in england.
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>>133620018
this was fun, and in california (known for some of the most restricted gun rights in the union) http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-guns-san-bernardino-johnny-tacherra-palin-20151204-story.html
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>>133611088
>bolt action rifle
Awesome stuff. You can hunt stuff!
>semi auto shotgun
I dunno m8 that magazine tube looks a little long. Would it be okay to out a pistol grip on there? Wait, this is just another hunting thing isn't it?
>centerfire semi auto rife
>manual action
lol
>.50 BMG
rich landowner toy with almost no practiicality
>revolver
I dunno m8, do you have a good reason to own that?
>easier to get a rifle or shotgun here than most states
News to me. So you're saying that you don't have to go through a lengthy approval process for your local police, including personal interviews and licenses good for only a single firearm? Because even in the most liberal states you just show go to any store, pick a gun, show your ID, and wait 10 days. The local sheriff doesn't decide if you're justified in owning it.

Education defeats propaganda.
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>>133620554
A dealer/collector in Australia put in seventy permits to acquire to move guns from stock to his private collection.
He put "Collection" as his reason on 69 and "VENGENCE!" on one.
The 69 were approved and Vengeance was disapproved.
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>>133615940
>Come back 3 days later
Kek you live in a cuck state
Where I live you get them the same day from the dealer, or just use a private seller and you get it with no background check or paperwork
I pass a background check but it's still nice to know I have that freedom should I choose to use it
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>>133616514
>Not hurting yourself with a knife and then blaming the corpse.

Stay cucked, bong
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>>133619741

You justify yourself to the goverment, just like you have.

Fucking mongoloid
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>>133612340
>.223
>Mohammad's illegal .556
Are you actually retarded?
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>>133620801
>You justify yourself to the goverment, just like you have.
>just like you

Since fucking when?
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>>133612208
>You need a license to get butter knives.
that's just a meme
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I feel bad for the rest of the europe. Nordics are alright. But the only free countries in Europe are Finland, Switzerland and Serbia.
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>>133616779
>The rest of the U.S. just requires a background check done through the National Instant Check System (NICS)at the point of sale for long arms.
Only if your cuck state has banned private sales
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>>133620884
5.56, not .556, though I wouldn't be surprised to see pic related on the streets of Londonistan in the coming years.
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>>133620754
A dealer I know bought 1500 pistols from one of the banks when their business license was cancelled.
At the time data entry was manual, he would hand write 30 guns to a page, the Firearms Registry would have to type up 30 separate registration forms on a type writer.
He received the forms, then transferred all the guns to the dealer next door. Registry typed up 1500 new forms and sent them. Dealer next door transferred them back to my mate. Registry typed up 1500 new forms, then did a snap audit of my mates books - they didn't like being harassed. Mate was a Czech. Fucking with bureaucrats over guns seems to be in their blood.
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>>133616352
>West coast
>Bad gun laws
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>>133621053
Czechs are pushing through their own 2nd Amendment in defiance of the EU.
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>>133617214
Funny how that works. At the moment it appears that one of the states with the hardest ccw permits (Michigan) also allows me to carry in the most states. Hopefully constitutional becomes a thing for you.
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>>133621053
Fuck off, shill. That's a semi-auto POS
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>>133621220

Forgot about the Czechs, they bros tho.

But thats about it.
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>>133611088
The gas system is negated so that you have to manually chamber every round with the bolt handle. Nice try schlomo
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>>133611088
>manual action over .22
I'm sorry dad. Also, despite living in a state that requires an additional permit to purchase handguns, ARs, and pistol grip/semi auto shotguns, I can walk in, answer 10 simple questions truthfully, show id, and leave with any damn gun I want. You can get "hunting" rifles and pump shotguns without that permit too.
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>>133617895
>underage b&

MODS
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>>133614369
believe me, those "Come and take it" flags are not just for show. Millions of people would die to defend their guns.
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>>133611088
>.223 AK
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>>133621053
>all those nord countries
Remove Switzerland from that list though
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>>133621252

Semi-auto somehow less dangerous than full auto? Fuck off kike, i can see you from a mile away.
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>>133621297
>>133621220
Slovenia has good gun laws too. Either them or Slovakia whichever one Polenar Tactical is from.
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>>133621403
>what is the AK101
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>>133621428
>Semi-auto somehow less dangerous than full auto?
You just answered yourself. Or do you finngolians have some special 'logic'.
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>>133621428
Range is a factor. They're both deadly for sure.
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>implying anything in the UK is easier to obtain than the USA when it comes to guns & ammo

5/10 I raged because I imagined a pompous nigger loving leftist UKuck saying those words.
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>>133616369
Just from what I know a shotgun licence is easiest to get.
>>
the OP is bollocks btw. Getting a membership in a rifle club is next to impossible anyway but let me explain the process

>look up gun clubs in the area. choice is smallbore or "fullbore" so basically .22 or "proper" calibres
>smallbore clubs are all full and have waiting lists but fuck that you want muh ay arr fifteen
>apply to your local club and go through the process of "proving" you arent a nutcase or whatever
>once they deem you "acceptable" by whatever arbitatry rules (bear in mind you havent fired a gun yet) you might be lucky enough to rent one of their .22s for a bit on a specified day of the week
>lets say the planets align and you're accepted as a full member
>apply to the police for a gun licence telling them what gun you want, why, where you will be shooting it, where you will be storing it and agreeing to let them come inspect your locker whenever they feel like it
>suffer through this cuckoldry, sell your car and buy a UK legal .223 AR15. This has to be built from scratch because conversions are banned.
>congratulations, you now own an AR15
>keep it in a locker out of site that only you have access to - not even the wife is allowed to know where the key is - seperate from it's ammunition, which is also locked up
>the freemasons in charge of the club decree it is time to shoot their lee enfields so you sign up for a day at Bisley, one of the only places in the UK you are allowed to shoot full bore rifles
>get about 2 hours worth of shooting in at most, from a prone position only in accordance to club rules
>drive all the way back home, lock your gun away for another 8 months
>start to realise why airsoft is so popular

clay pidgeon is eaiser to get into however

>apply for shotgun licence
>install cabinet and spread ass for roman fucking shits/police firearms team
>go to a shoot every other sunday and blow up some clay discs with your under and over
>laugh as ageing freemason paedophiles look down on you for not owning a holland and holland
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>>133621671

I consider full auto less deadly than semi-automatics.

>>133621655

You called it a piece of shit. By your logic its somehow less than full-auto. And that is how i know you are a kike who believes good ol leftist propagand how automatic guns are more dangerous.
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>>133621860
try using a semi-auto or pump shotgun at a prestigious clay ground
the amount of hate is hilarious
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>>133621066
Sorry, was speaking of FFL sales. Add Colorado and Washington state to the list. They technically require all transfers to have a background check. Most Colorado law enforcement ignores it because it's a badly written law made by people with no actual experience with firearms.
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>>133618256
>americucks
>having guns

Nah, they got them all stolen by obongo and niggers
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>>133622063

Love the angry looks i get when i beat niggas who use over under shotguns trying to shoot trap and skeet. I roll in with my Benelli Raffaello, they be mad i aint a cuck who uses shit oldschool weapons.
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>>133622063
>BLOODY ESSEX DRAINPIPE THIS PLACE HAS REALLY GONE TO THE DOGS SINCE THEY CLOSED THE WORK HOUSES
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>>133612893
>Why would you want to buy a full sized rifle chambered in .22?
That's even popular here in the states. It's for fun. Shooting .22lr can be as cheap as 5 cents a round, while .556 is at least 30 cents.
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>>133612001
>americucks
>freedom

TO GET THEIR CAPITAL REKT LMAO
>>
C (U.K) K
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>>133622202
the best is when you have a firearms license so you can buy a benelli M2 with a 9 shot tube
butthurt under/over fags get so pissed
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>>133620801
Lol look at this poor buttwrecked subject of the Queen
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>>133622261
>be British navy
>"best in the world"
>get absolutely and utterly annihilated by some part-time hobbyist American sailors
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>>133616955
Like all mass shooters, they pick targets where guns are legally prohibited. Texas decided to have a "Draw Mohammed" contest. Two aspiring Jihadis showed up and were promptly shot by the security guard with a .45 caliber Glock. This was considered bad form as hunting over a baited field is frowned upon by true sportsmen.
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>>133622032
>By your logic its somehow less than full-auto
It is less than full auto you autistic finngolian retard. AKs are 'salt rifles originally. Semi-auto rifles are not 'salt rifles. How difficult is that to understand? FFS I spent a better part of a year dragging around a proper AK.
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>>133622186
Bongo single-handedly sold like twenty five million guns if you put together every time he flapped his lips about gun control and everyone went out to buy a new piece
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>>133611088
BIN
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>>133611088
You need a permit? That is some cucked up shit my dude. Even in anti gun New Jersey anyone who inherits a gun dosen't need a permit. We have plenty of "assault weapons" legal too like the fixed mag SKS and many others. If you can't have a semi automatic rifle in a real caliber you're pretty cucked. Don't act like you have guns when you're noguns.
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>>133622186

Reminder: White Americans are some of the most genetically pure whites thanks to the one drop rule

That is all
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>>133611088
>the standard for self-defense and combat still illegal
>manual action lulz
Can you carry a gun on you? If not your gun laws are still idiotic. The idea of being armed, is to be armed.
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>>133612377
Sometimes is can take longer, like if you choose not to include your SSN or if there are big gun shows going on, or for some other unknown reason. If you're chatting with a shop employee I'm sure they'll have some anecdotes.
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>>133611874
i bought an Colt M4 from Wamart last year . the whole transaction took 10 minutes
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>>133622549

Holy fuck you are retarded? Do you understand shot placement?

And good for you for serving your shit poor country. I still happen to work for the military and own a couple of AK's, and my work rifle is Full-auto, tho i have almost never used it fullgiggle. Because its useless.
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>>133622261


Yes you moved a small force in the middle of night in the middle of nowhere to burn a building down. Then You ran like hell.

Ooohhh that will teach those bloody Americans.
Ohh nigel,, crap what it that
I do beleeb its a farmer with a blow
Runaway!!!! BACK TO THE BOATS BACK TO THE BPOATTSSSSSS
Sonny..don't every forget this. But We Americans. We hate you Brits.
I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire mother fucker.
Enjoy being taken over by muslims.
Poccieboi
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>>133612340
>he does not know that 5.56 is just a very fast .22
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>>133622877

Imagine how stupid people browse this shit board.
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>>133622606
Americans are more well armed now than before Obama took office

The carbine market fucking exploded after he got in
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>>133613139
thread the barrell buy an adapter and get a box of oil filters
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>>133622220
Haha i love english culture
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>>133613139
ironically, silencers are not only legal they are also encouraged in the uk.
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>>133622788
>almost never used it fullgiggle. Because its useless
A short 2-3 round burst is useless? Nobody (intelligent) is expecting you to go spray and pray hollywood autismo.
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>>133619894
Indeed. Almost as if it were planned.
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>>133623159

Then tell me why no competitor in the world uses full-auto guns? Do you even fucking compete or own guns or are you just fucking shitposting kid?
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>firearm license
>it's easier to get a [.22 cailbre] rifle or shotgun [in most gauges] [in U.K.] than it is in most U.S. states.

Which laws are you looking at Anon? Because they are not U.S. laws... its cool that you'all can get guns in the U.K. but the amount of hoops and the restrictions in the U.K. vastly exceed even the worst U.S. restrictions. A "manually-operated" .223 AR? A revolver with a 12-inch barrel? cool story britanon.

I hope you'all get your gun rights FULLY restored. Perhaps your new admin may be able to do so, though I wouldn't hold my breath. Trot'n out this worn-out infographic and saying "muh rights, Americucks BTFO" is asinine.
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>>133623136
this.
are murrikans allowed suppressors on their bolt action rifles?
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>>133619290
at least you got the .357 and not the moonclip version. i saw one in a shop wondering why it was so cheap, then found out it shot .40 S&W
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>>133623357
>competitor
Who's talking of competitions you mong? It's a military rifle for military purposes, you know, war and stuff. Who would bring a fucking AK to a competition shooting match?
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I mean I can go and buy a hunting rifle or double barrel shotgun from a trap and tackle right now in Northern Ireland, all they needed was an ID background check. Got a crossbow instead, at least I can fire it without someone thinking the IRA are training across the street.
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>>133617407
>it's the most liberal part of the country
Nigger what? Stop making excuses for California
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>>133622606
>twenty five million guns
It's higher than that, since the number of background checks made during the Obama presidency was 144 million.

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics/reports/nics_firearm_checks_-_month_year.pdf

>These statistics represent the number of firearm background checks initiated through the NICS. They do not represent the number of firearms sold. Based on varying state laws and purchase scenarios, a one-to-one correlation cannot be made between a firearm background check and a firearm sale.
that could be like 144 million to 200 million guns sold during the Obama presidency.
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>>133623600
Competition shooter make me sick, the game drastically changes when your targets can shoot back.
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>>133617122
Per current laws, we have what are known as 80%lower receivers. By law there a certain point at which a lump of metal/plastic becomes a gun, completely disregarding that it's just a fancy shaped bracket. Barrels, magazines, stocks, trigger groups, bolts, tacticool handguards and sights are not regulated in the least. There is no need to make everything from scratch other than as an interesting project.
>>133616331
80% can be finished with a $5 set of files from harbor freight and plenty of elbow grease.
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>>133623600
AK's aren't uncommon in 3 Gun

FALs are where it's at though
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>>133612762
>5,000 air rifles handed in

AHAHAHAA bongs are now even more disarmed than Palestinians!!!

AAAHAHHAAHA
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jewry freemasonry police lawyers clergy craft build jwo for goyim
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>>133623838
>plastic lower
lmao enjoy having your buffer tube break off dumbass.
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>>133623830

I have also done PMC work in South-Africa and Somalia. So tell me about shooting back?

>Training is bad

Holy fuck you people are stupid.
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>>133624180
>I have also done PMC work in South-Africa and Somalia. So tell me about shooting back?
You played medal of duty on x-box and keep digging yourself deeper since I first called you out.
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>>133624358

Yes i work in private security and military? Is that somehow special for you? And you still have no clue what you are talking about.
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>>133612001
>>133612046
>>133612149
>>133612340
>>133613066
>>133613139
>unironically shitting on 22

a suppressed 22 with a decent power optic is a powerful eapon (as long as you're adept in the art of concealment, elevation dialling and being a cheeky little cunt, like the IRA)

The IRA used to snipe bongs from 200-300 meters away using suppressed 22s from well concealed spots and it was so effective as it made virtually no noise (TRY THAT WITH A 308 AND YOU'D GET SURROUNDED BY COPS BEFORE YOU CAN EVEN SAY "SHOULD'VE BROUGHT A 22")

Same thing for IDF kikes, they use scoped and suppressed 10/22s to kill protesters without being seen or heard
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>>133614642
your such a jewdicksucker
so cops must somehow think that school is importatnt cause they think theyre important like the jews like i was going to say they thin anybody gives a shit
>inb4
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>>133623838
>$5 set of files from harbor freight and plenty of elbow grease.
I was under the impression it required a bit more work and tools, e.g. drilling through steel components to enable attachment. Never seriously considered doing it, so I could be wrong, but the fact remains, everything needed to get started is easily available online.
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>>133624642
now this chink knows his 22.s

but seriously what do you expect from nogun COD keyboard warriors?
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>>133615227
if that guy wasnt on drugs then.. um they just fuckign are a bunch of pyschopaths who murdered im

i see No difference, in that, and HAitian Neck tires
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>>133624570
Yeah, sure. You also had green short shorts in rhodesia.
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>>133624180
You should know better than to use competition shooting as a part of your argument especially since you made a good point about shot placement. Nobody cares about what meme shooters do. I respect the fact that you served but come on man, what you said was just dumb.
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>>133624642
>IDF kikes, they use scoped and suppressed 10/22s to kill (((protesters)))

Fuck you stupid godamn kike mother fucker

YOu mean people defending their country, ..OF PALESTINE
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>>133616955
Yeah, but we're not huge pussies that get scared and give away rights.
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>>133625082
Where did i imply that i a support the kikes?
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>>133625287
what you used to refer to any excuse to give the KIKES a reason to defend anything, calling someong or somethig a protester, i guess against hetm

yuou mean the people of palestine, invaded land defending their country?
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>>133624642
>https://youtu.be/DtenI4zMwWM?t=1m55s
suppressed .22lr is the proverbial assassin's favorite in pistols as well.
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>>133625450
>protestor is a bad word
american english, everybody
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>>133611088
its legal if u are a paki
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>>133617704
tfw Vermont
feelsgoodman.jpg
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>>133625569
jew shill
guess what kike, i dont give a fuck. you are talking about them killing, them wht you refer to me and tried to use against me.

HOW STUPID ARE YOU
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If you can own any firearm, go through the loops for buying one. A side-by-side shotgun is nowhere near an AR15 in terms of efficiency, but it's better than your fists and better than a knife at defending yourself and your family.

Stop whining and get a legal gun right now.
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/pol/ is truly the best place to discuss guns
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>>133625787
t. underage
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>>133612779
This was the case that prompted the law change.
Dude would sit at his window shooting kids with an airgun, shot a two year old in the head and killed him.
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>>133625795
Interesting

>2000 rounds per gun per year
wtf
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>>133625287
Only on /pol/ would someone have to defend himself against accusations of supporting Israel.
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>>133612253
Remove gas tube and flip low pro gas block upside down. Congrats bolt action ar.
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>>133625861
Silenced GP100. Only sold to three letter agencies.
There is no justice.
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>>133626398
Pretty shitty yes, but only with restricted calibers. That's why most people go for .22 guns in my experience: no limit of storage or purchase.

I'm taking a pragmatic approach on this, since I'm not a millionnaire and can't afford 12 9mm guns, I just have one that I shoot once in a while. The rest of the ammo stays at home "just in case".
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