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If we really went to the moon over 50 years ago, why haven't

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If we really went to the moon over 50 years ago, why haven't we been back? The technology should've advanced so rapidly that going to the moon would be trivial. Look at the first cars and how quickly they became mainstream for reference. It doesn't add up.
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We mostly went to the moon as a big fuck you to the communists. Haven't gone back because there's no economically viable reason to. It's gonna be a little while before space mining becomes more profitable than just picking shit off the ground.
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>>133600819
aliens banned us from the server
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>>133600819

It would always be much easier to fake a moon landing these days too. So why haven't they done that?
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>>133600819
Because whats the point? Its a big money hole and you get nothing substantial in return. Cars became popular because they made transport faster and easier. Travelling across the atlantic was worth it because of all the land and resources in the americas. Whats on the moon that has real value in order to make all that investment worthwhile?
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>>133600819
Because it's a big fucking rock with no air, water, or food.
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>>133600819
>why haven't we been back?
Because we have too many niggers to feed.
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>>133601134
there would be even more ways to scrutinize anything they faked, and would create a new wave of people who say the moon landing was fake.

>>133601036
>not realizing russia and the US are in it together.
>not realizing russia and the US were allies in ww2
>not realizing general Patton was killed off for wanting to invade russia
>not realizing the cold war was a big fat phony
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>>133600819
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>>133601036
>We went to the moon

No you didn't. Use logic. The sun spews out quadrillions of charged particles. If it weren't for our atmosphere and magnetic field, we'd not be alive. When you leave this safe haven you'll get irradiated by the Sun's particle winds.
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>>133600819
probably because we found stuff
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>>133602133
I can never fucking tell when people are baiting or when they're somehow serious on this fucking board. How do you explain high-orbit space stations?

>>133600819
There's no actual reason to, especially with America's space program gutted as it is right now. It'd cost too much for no profit at all.
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>>133602133
Says you, Poland can't into space that also makes it clear why you can't into space since you don't know what shielding is dumb Poland.
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>>133600819
>not fully grasping the deadly and extremely hostile hard vacuum of space that is 99.9999 percent of everything up there
>not understanding why idiots in congress don't want to spend money on anything outside of the southern states

out the airlock you go
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>>133602378
>There's no actual reason to, especially with America's space program gutted as it is right now.
Pretty much this. Probes can go to the moon for a fraction of the cost. Why send a person up there if not for a specific purpose? Almost all space research can be done on earth or the ISS.
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>>133602133
>he doesn't know the sun is only 32 miles in diameter and 3000 miles in the air

>>133602378
>I can never fucking tell when people are baiting or when they're somehow serious on this fucking board. How do you explain high-orbit space stations?

>I can never fucking tell when people are biating, or when they're somehow serious on this fucking board when talking about the holocaust being a hoax
>how do you explain all gas chambers and ovens in the death camps
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>> why haven't we been back?

We have gone to the moon 9 times you fucking idiot. We literally HAVE gone back

NINE FUCKING TIMES we've gone there
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>>133600819
>why haven't we been back?

they told us not to come back
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>>133602133
>Use logic


OK genius, then how did they alter the laws of physics to make their """""fake""""" footage??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDp1tiUsZw8
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Watch Neil Armstrong's body language in Apollo 11 press conference if you still believe we've been anywhere near the moon.
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>>133600819
The moon belongs to us, Earth boy
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>>133601117
/thread
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>>133600819
>If realy reach North Pole with dogs in early 20th century, why we don't do the same thing again
>Check mate, "northpolists"
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>>133603072
stupid ass bitch, impressive
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>>133603265

No answer. Just what I thought you idiots would have to say
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>>133600819
Keep penetrating each other's asses,fagits
Soon we'll be the first to colonize the moon.and there'll be no toilets.
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>>133603690
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>>133600819
infaltion, and the technology we use now far surpasses what we had before and that only INCREASES THE COST, the cost of space flight hasn't gone down. its incredibly stupid to go to the moon we have little reason to go back.
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>>133603438
http://wikitravel.org/en/North_Pole
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>>133603800
Gonna have nightmares about a poo covered moon now.
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>>133603800
poo's with no loo's in space. great not only do you shit in the street you are going to be shitting in zero gravity crapping up the vacuum of space.
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>>133603821
hey, dont be sad and in denial , you are stupid

you think the sun is 32 miles
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Expanding brain meme

Kikes keep us from going back to the moon

Kikes faked the moon landing

we did go back but the kikes covered it up

Nazis and kikes are fighting a 40+ year war to rule the moon which is hollow and filled with gorgeous women dinosaurs and telepathic technology.
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>>133600819
>If we really went to the moon over 50 years ago, why haven't we been back?

Because it became apparent by the 2nd or 3rd trip that there was no reason to spend a ton of money to keep humans alive on the moon.

We'll make the same mistake with Mars, which is even worse in terms of the amount of time it takes to get there.

The whole Mars colonization idea is a pile of shit. It would be far easier and actually make more sense to colonize the Marianas Trench but that would not appeal to the Trekkies who want to live on Mars with their tricorders.
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>>133602133
that's what the space suits are for
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>>133604280
>hey, dont be sad and in denial , you are stupid

>you think the sun is 32 miles

>>he doesn't know the sun is only 32 miles in diameter and 3000 miles in the air
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>>133601653
PATTON GOT HIT BY A DRUNK DRIVING GRUNT YOU STUPID FUCKING FAGGOT. HE DIED IN THE FUCKING HOSPITAL
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>>133604492

... far easier?

... make more sense?

Are you fucking retarded?
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>>133600819
you know if you don't believe we went to the moon you can get a telescope and see the flag
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>>133604061
Gonna fill up the craters with poo
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>>133604785

>3000 miles in the air

and god put it up there, right?
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>>133603273
There was a time when the consensus here was that it's all fake, which it is. It's a very touchy subject for the elite and the shills here because if they are publicly caught out on such a huge lie, then the normies won't trust them anymore in regards to anything.

I can see how people were fooled when they were watching it on miniature black an white low red boxes, but there's really no excuse for that kind of ignorance in this modern world. Anyone who gets past the 'that's crazy' stage and actually looks into it will always realise it's actually laughably and obviously fake.
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>>133604165
I feel so proud already
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>>133604888
"Yes, the flag is still on the moon, but you can't see it using a telescope. ... The largest optical wavelength telescope that we have now is the Keck Telescope in Hawaii which is 10 meters in diameter. The Hubble Space Telescope is only 2.4 meters in diameter - much too small!Jun 25, 2015"

>It's there goy...you just can't see it! Never mind that we can see most of the known fucking universe with the hubble which is 1/5th of the size of earths telescopes, you can't see the flag because reasons.
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Stanley Kubrick. Thats all im saying, bitch.
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>>133604956
POO
IN
MOON
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>>133604797
yeahs ure goyim, and the gas chambers, ovens, and death camps are real, right?

>>133604978
there are only 2 real views you can have of the world. either things were designed by an intelligent creator, or the world was created by random chance.


>and god put it up there, right?
and the sun just by randomness appeared and created 9 planets from debris, right?
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>>133605118
1. He alread mentioned him in the very OP. Learn to fucking read.
2. Kubrick is shit director.
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>>133600819
Because the cold war ended and robots got got good enough to make human exploration cost-ineffective.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9WpR6YvkOo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiLh6sEAySU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuvk0b9F6Ns
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>>133604978
oh wait

>6 GORILLIAN JEWS DIED
and the germans put them in gas chambers and ovens, right?
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>>133605301
>2. Kubrick is shit director.
You mean: "I don't like/understand his style".
Which is fine. Kubrick is something else.
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>>133600819
no, we went to be moon, because flat earth
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>>133601134
Hollywood does it several times a year, and it looks better every time.
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>>133605204
yes it did, it's something called gravity, you stupid moron, christian sheep
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>>133604865
>... far easier?
>... make more sense?
>Are you fucking retarded?

yes, yes, and no.

Colonizing mars would cost billions if not trillions simply to get the food there. Sending food to the bottom of the ocean would be trivial in comparison.

We can learn things at the bottom of the ocean about our planet. Having people on mars will not learn anything that a rover can learn.

Both are impractical. One is doable, the other is not.
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>>133600819
Lack of public interest after several moon landings killed the program.
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There is literally no reason to go to the moon, or Mars. When the USA did it, it was bravado to upstage the USSR.

Any thought of going to the moon, Mars etc. is just a waste of tax dollars and natural resources.
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>>133605385
we're talking about the moon or about jews?
you stupid bitch

you see, you are just a collective of non sense, non sense that makes you feel confy
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I've always found it interesting how moon landing deniers will go on about "seeing for yourself" and looking at the evidence when you can quite literally set up a telescope in your back yard and look at the ISS. Having a permanent human population LIVING IN ORBIT is so much more fantastic than putting humans on the moon.
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>>133605705
>set up a telescope in your back yard and look at the ISS
this is the funniest lie ever. maybe you mean you can set up a telescope and see ISIS? actually you can probably do that just looking out the window.
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>people dont realize that with 60s technology faking the moon landing would actually be more difficult than actually going to the moon
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>>133605487
That. And the fact there wasn't even much public interest for the first one until it was launched.
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>>133600819
Just
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>>133605519
Feeding millions of useless niggers and medicaid for 500 pound lardasses is also a waste of tax dollars. It's just that this way we have even less to show for it.
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>>133601597
Ha
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>>133600819
NASA has been told in no uncertain terms not to return to the Moon. There are service-to-self ET's that have taken up residence on the dark side of the Moon.

"Service-to-self" means negative, dark or evil.

"Service-to-other" means good, helpful and well intentioned.
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>>133605789
Nice meme dude, but in all seriousness looking at the ISS is a pretty feel good moment. There are services that track it's orbital position so you can find out when it will next be visible from wherever you are.
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>>133600819
There's nothing useful on the moon. Doing it for lulz is a waste of money and robots surpass meat tourists for actual exploration.
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Because it was expensive and after multiple landings and accidents people lost interest.
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What kind of things are there to do there?
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>>133605868
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The moon Nazis will launch a kinetic bombardment if we go back.
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>>133600819
We haven't gone back because it is not economically viable to do so. Its not complicated. And we know the landings happened because we still communicate with the LRRR array that was left by Apollo 15. Lasers are fired at the moon and reflected back in lunar laser ranging experiments all over the world on a weekly basis. Its retarded to suggest we didn't land on the moon when there is irrefutable proof that we did.
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>>133605458
>he doesn't realize that gravity is a huge hoax
HAHAHAHAHA

>>133605643
was relating it to the integrity of information.

the moonlanding is holocaust tier propaganda

>stupid bitch
sure is summer in here. please fuck off back to /r/atheism
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>>133606070
you could put there telescopes, to avoid the atmosphere.

you could put there satelites, or militar bases. think about droping misils from the moon.
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>>133605974
rural and suburban retard
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>>133606227
>you could put there telescopes, to avoid the atmosphere.

Or we could put them in orbit, where half of their field of view isn't blocked by the fucking moon you retard

>u could put there satelites, or militar bases. think about droping misils from the moon.

Honestly I'm amazed that you didn't choke on your tongue whilst writing that
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>>133604797
A FUCKING LEAF
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>>133605705
>Having a permanent human population LIVING IN ORBIT is so much more fantastic than putting humans on the moon.
lmao no
launching a sealed container that can maintain a stable orbit around earth is what a highschool kid could do, given the resources. at least for the past 20-30 years.
landing on moon without breaking anything & Relaunching the capsule back to earth is something else altogether
why do you think they haven't made reusable rockets and shit before spaceX?
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>>133601423
The moon is made of cheese friend
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>>133606070
staging based for exploring solar system. testing equipment for mars colonization.

If we are ever going to send humans into the solar system a permanent moon base is the logical first step.

If we can't achieve a moon base then mars is a pipe dream.
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>>133606536
>why do you think they haven't made reusable rockets and shit before spaceX?
What about the space shuttle, huh
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>>133605868
What exactly is wrong with this?
>hurr durr it doesn't look like the starship Enterprise!
So what? NASA went for function over aesthetics. Parts of the lander needed to be replaced at any time during construction and testing, so molded plastic or thick sheet metal would have been a bad choice for the outer hull. And there is no atmospheric drag in space to require something that durable anyway.
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>>133606603

https://www.siliconrepublic.com/innovation/nasa-mars-mission-problem

Mars is a pipe dream
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>>133606200
>And we know the landings happened because we still communicate with the LRRR array that was left by Apollo 15.
yes it's not like they could've sent unmanned things there which is the case with mars and literally every single other spacecraft we've sent outside earth orbit.
>Its retarded to suggest we didn't land on the moon when there is irrefutable proof that we did.
landing on the moon isn't denied by anyone.
Man landing on moon & coming back alive is.
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>>133606636
yeah, space x is bullshit scam. they aren't doing anything new. just cutting costs by using other people's tech without having the overhead of the big mil contractors which are corrupt as fuck.
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>>133600819
Not alot to do up there since they aliens wont let inside untill we get our shit together
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>>133606690
>Mars is a pipe dream
right, but NASA switched from moon exploration to mars exploration because mars was new so they would have a justification for failing. they cant go to the moon either.
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>>133606687
are you drank?
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>>133606687
Doesn't look like a landing site to me. No trace of displacement of any kind whatsoever.
What it looks like: It was placed there.
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>>133606636
>What about the space shuttle, huh

>months long preparation for the next mission after landing,
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>>133606727
If unmanned probes made in the 60s could survive the conditions of deep space and land safely on the Moon, why would it have been impossible to do the same with live humans?
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>>133606727
>landing on the moon isn't denied by anyone.

Yeah, it is?

there are people who outright deny that NASA even exists and claim that the whole thing is a fabricated story to cover expenses being used for other things
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>>133607052
do you even read the posts?
it isn't the landing that is questioned
it's the re-launching that is questioned
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>>133601134
This is funny because back in 1969 they didnt have the tech to fake it
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>>133600819
Space is highly classified. This is not communicated to the media. Only a small portion of information gathered is shared with the public. ET's and evidence of their existence is highly classified. That is why segments of actual Moon footage has been reconstructed in-theater to replace any footage which may show evidence of ET's to the public.

The two most gaurded secrets are as follows:
1. The ongoing presence of aliens (ET's)
2. The exsitance and return of Planet X aka Nibiru.
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>>133606727
>Man landing on moon & coming back alive is.

Only by retarded underachievers who, rather than actually do something productive with their lives, instead entertain discredited conspiracy theories so they can pretend to themselves that they are smarter than the "sheeple"

If you have the entirety of human knowledge at your fingertips, and somehow you STILL think the moon landings are fake, you are a special kind of stupid.
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>>133607139
So they successfully landed on the moon, but thought "that wasn't impressive enough, lets fake re-launching"?

What added gain was there for faking that extra part?
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>>133607167
NASA/HOLLYWOOD
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>>133606394
City people
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>>133600819
>/pol/ not taking pride in the only time America did anything demonstrably better than the commies
>/pol/ shit talking the only truly great thing this country has done since writing the 2A
>/pol/ basically shilling for commies
What is this timeline?
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>>133600819
To be honest:
nothing to really fucking do on the moon

Imagine what we would get from a new mission to the moon:
>woo rocks we already collected
>spent a ton of money getting people to the moon when we could have sent a probe like china
>footage of astronauts doing silly things that mouthbreathers will rip apart for their pet conspiracy theories

Yup, totally worth it.
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>>133600819
We both know why, anon. We can't let the populace know that they survive.

SIEG
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>>133600819
>why haven't we been back?
Went last tuesday.
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>>133600819
If the US is capable of faking the moon landing then it's possible that they are responsible for 9/11. That's a scary thought.
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>>133607622
Look at this new footage
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>>133607501
The thing is it's not even like the Russians claimed that it was fake. Both countries spent billions on the space race and were directly competing so you would have thought that if the evidence was so "obviously fake" then there would be some literal rocket scientists in Russia who would have picked up on it and pointed it out at the time.
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>>133607034
I'm not saying it was any good, just saying spaceX aren't the first ones to build a reusable rocket
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>>133600819
>If we really went to the moon over 50 years ago, why haven't we been back?

because liberals cucks wouldnt shut up about bullshit like

>LOL YOU CAN PUT A WHITE MAN ON THE MOON BUT YOU CANT PAY MONEY FO DEM PROGRAMS FO MUH KIDS!?
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>>133607514
>what are helium-3 mining operations
>what is a possible solar system gas station
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>>133607692
9/11 was clearly an inside job wtc 7 was a controlled demolition.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv7BImVvEyk
http://www.wtc7evaluation.org/
We landed on the moon.
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>>133600819
>Why are scud missiles still expensive?
Because of muh market muh mass production.
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>>133607802
Like I said, nothing to do on the moon.
Until we can cooperate and make awesome capital ships as a species, that is.
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>>133607919
>Capital Ships
I miss Steve the Titan...
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>>133607775
>just saying spaceX aren't the first ones to build a reusable rocket

The space shuttle isn't a reusable rocket? It's a reusable shuttle, that sits on top of the very expensive, very much non-reusable rocket.

Space x are the first to build a reusable rocket.
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>>133607354
what's more plausible

we had the technology back in -69 that allowed men to land on moon & come back alive:
1. perfect launch, where nothing goes wrong & nothing breaks (life support systems, communications, fuel tanks, anything on the re-launch pad, landing gear, etc)
2. perfect journey, where no spacejunk in orbit of either earth or moon even scratches the shuttle, because even miniscule particles cause major damage in space.
3) perfect landing where nothing breaks
4) near perfect re-launch, on moon (where no rockets have ever been launched yet) where no major systems break
5) perfect journey back
6) not burning up in atmosphere & managing to land in the sea

or

moon landing was faked
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>>133600819
they placed mirrors on the moon, you can shine a high powered laser at them.

if not usa explain how the mirrors got there.

>>133605072
dipshit, don't need the Hubble telescope to see a spaceship hurdling towards the moon, many amateurs were able to watch and confirm

even shit tier countries like brazil confirmed>>133600819
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>>133608342
You understand that it was a gradual process? All of that stuff didn't "just happen", it was the result of years of testing and failure? Like 6 people died on various tests that failed before Apollo 11 happened.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Apollo_missions
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>>133608342
I can't help but feel
>moon landing was faked
is a little more complicated that just that blurb compared to the list of 6 things that could easily be solved by understanding physics and math.
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>>133608342
what's more plausible

we had the technology back in -03 (or sooner if that floats your boat) that allowed men to fly in the sky & come back alive:
1. perfect launch, where nothing goes wrong & nothing breaks (frame, wings, fuel tanks, landing gear, etc)
2. perfect journey, where no stray birds or other obstacles even scratch the propeller
3. perfect landing where nothing breaks

Things like this are a product of research and lots of trial and error. The space program encountered numerous, numerous failures before they got a winner.
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>>133608211
They may have not made the first reusable rocket but they did make the first rocket to fly itself into orbit then fly back down and land itself.
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>>133608342
All of that stuff is infinitely more plausible than the idea that a government could manage a global conspiracy involving millions of people and keep it completely secret for half a century.

You sound like the anti vaxxers who go on about "injecting MERCURY and VIRUSES into your children!1!1!1", just because you don't understand something doesn't mean that talking about it in a retarded over simplified way will make you seem right.
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>>133608827
>the idea that a government could manage a global conspiracy involving millions of people and keep it completely secret for half a century.
oh, like 6 gorillion?
or another of the million things a propaganda machine of the time was capable or producing?
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>>133607792
Liberals take the high road : )

Conservatives take the low road : (
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>>133608342
what's more plausible

1. I go to bed and get roughly 7 hours of sleep
2. All the THOUSANDS of electonic connections in my phone work and my alarm goes off.
3. The plumbing works perfectly and I take a shower
4. Shampoo is perfect and not full of acid that causes my hair to rot away.
5. Perfect synchronization in the gears of my watch to tell me it's time to go to work
6. Not dying in a fiery car crash on my way there

or

i stay on 4chan all night
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>>133607514
America never went to the moon, stop larping with patrotic zeal clouding your fat face. you are the mouth breather. the evidence is there that a 5 year could see, yet you faggots who cant change their mind about a thing because that's literally the only thing you can be proud of your nation for cant be taken away without you getting unhinged from reality. grow up stupid nigger
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>>133606554
Believing the media
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>>133608342
>Landing gear
Where do you see landing gear on a Saturn V, tardling?
>No spacejunk in the 60s
Yeah
>Shuttle
You know they make documentaries, right? Watch one, and tell me where you see a shuttle?
>Perfect landing where nothing breaks
You mean like the first landing where the flight computer overloaded, started heading for a boulder field, and Armstrong had to land manually?
>Perfect journey back
Orbital mechanics isn't that hard
>Not burning up in the atmosphere and landing in the sea
Ablative heat shields, and the earth is 70% water. Kinda easy to land on something that's 3/4ths of the fucking planet.
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>>133608342
So much shit actually went catastrophically wrong on the way to the moon my dude, they had to literally macgyver it on their trip there
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>>133608904
Humor me

So the american propaganda machine fabricated it all, yet the Russian propaganda machine felt no need to point out all of the obvious inaccuracies with their story and evidence?

The two most powerful countries in the world were directly competing for that achievement as a huge governmental matter of national pride, funneling billions of dollars into it, then america fakes it and russia does nothing?

If the footage of the landing is so "obviously fake" then do you not think one or two of the l i t e r a l rocket scientists working for the USSR might have picked up on it and said something?
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>>133600819
Because NASA is full of retards that can barely pick their own noses. It's why they contract everything out these days to SpaceX and the Russians.
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>>133608904
why didn't the soviets or anyone with an amateur telescope say that they didn't see any space ship on their way to the moon?

anyone on earth at the time with an amateur telescope could see a fucking ship going to the moon

point two, muh mirrors on the moon how did they get there
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>>133608904
Dumb conspiracy poster. Like I said before, I can't tell if people like you are just baiting or if you can actually be this dumb. I'm pretty sure you're going to reply to this and not the brit, too.
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>>133608617
This... Jesus Christ, not too long ago i think Chinese satellite flew near moon and did pictures of landing sites.
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>>133608990
>implying that I give a fuck that we landed on the moon
Here's the problem with that:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_retroreflectors_on_the_Moon
Go find an observatory to ping one for you.
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>>133608342
None of the Apollo space missions were perfect. They had constant problems. Some that resulted in the deaths of astronauts. That's not even including all the issues with the shuttles. The concept you have of any of it going perfectly is laughable and goes to show just how uneducated you are in the subject.
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>>133609300
Hell, you could also grab a good enough telescope yourself and find the shadows of the landers on the moon yourself.
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>>133600819
I bet you also think the space station isn't there, even though it would require nations all over the world lying about it for years, involving untold numbers of people.

It's fucking ridiculous, they went to the moon.
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>muh mirrors
yes they had to be manually installed there by humans
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This is kinda depressing actually, greatest achievement of mankind is treated like that, i dont understand this or flat earthstars i mean seriously... there are people that genuinely believe that the planet they live on is flat, what the actual fuck? Is everyone trolling? Are their minds incapable to visualize this concept? I dont get it.
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I'm so sorry you all had to see this.
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>>133609706
Wait wait, hang on. I'm out of the conspiracy loop, so forgive me if I'm misunderstanding.

So we can put stuff on the moon,
but we can't put stuff that is people on the moon ?
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>>133600819
Black caucus wanted more money for the programs.

Please learn physics to understand what kind of rocket is required to get to the moon.
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>>133609837
>humanities greatest achievement

wrong
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>>133609924
>So we can put stuff on the moon,
>but we can't put stuff that is people on the moon?
we can put stuff on literally anywhere, the problem lies in getting said stuff or parts of said stuff back to earth in 1 piece, be it alive or dead.
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>>133600819
>why haven't we been back
Because gibs
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>>133609424
>None of the Apollo space missions were perfect.

Everybody knows about Apollo 13 and that was an awesome recovery, but my favorite episode is SCE to AUX:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWQIryll8y8

That guy laughing hysterically at the end had to be thinking, "instead of a dangerous abort, we're still going to the fucking moon!".
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>>133602378
I always assume they are that stupid.

There are so many good conspiracy theories and they choose the ones disproved by the most basic science. 1mm of aluminum foil will block the majority of both solar and Van Allen belt radiation
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>>133603827
And yet we are sending hundreds of robots to mars and plan on colonizing it at some point when it's just as much a lifeless husk as luna. It really fires up the neurons when we don't use the moon as a test bed for this technology rather than a celestial body that's exponentially farther away.
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>>133605072
You don't understand how telescopes work.
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>>133600819
buy a telescope and see by yourself faggot
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>>133601036

/thread

Why are people still posting in here?
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>>133606200
the laser reflector activity is amazing. especially since earth people were doing it for 5 years before the reflectors were even up there.
plus they're the only lasers in the universe that don't diffuse during reflection through an atmosphere. impressive stuff all round.
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>>133610485
We're gonna colonize Mars once Earth looks just as dead as Mars. Makes sense.
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>>133601036
there's no economic reason to go to Antarctica either, due to no exploitation treaties, but there are bases there. like OP said, every advance in technology has been pursued to its fullest, except the moon meme. the only time in history that we supposedly accomplished a great fete then called it a day. highly suspect.
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>>133611222
All of the bass there are there for science, not just because

We already have permanent human habitation in space, there's very little scientific value that we could get out of a moon base that we don't already have with the ISS
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>>133603265
>OK genius, then how did they alter the laws of physics to make their """""fake""""" footage??

the feather had lead in the quill you moron. Every soviet schoolchild was taught this.
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>>133600819
Behold the great unlearning!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yoQgAQOALc
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>>133603148
See it's proof that it's all fake cuz they shoulda went 10 times, says me
>retard op logic
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>>133611222
There is a vast difference between the moon, 200k+ miles away from the Earth in the middle of an uninhabitable void, and frigid Antarctica. Constructing bases in the latter is considerably easier and cheaper, and we know less about Antarctica than the Moon, hilariously enough.

I wouldn't be surprised if the treaties were bypassed regardless, but that's not my forte.
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>>133600819
We spend all that money on diversity now we spend almost as much on diversity as we do on the military every year.
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All I'll say before I take my leave is that I wish the crew of Apollo took the time to stomp out a giant "FUCK YOU" in the lunar soil before they left, one that could be seen by telescope. I know Buzz probably wish they did. But then unmanned rockets would be the cause of that one, huh guiz?
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>>133611222
>but there are bases there.

comparing a really cold place to the moon is like saying "I put my hand in warm water all the time, why is it stupid to put my hand in boiling water?".

What about all the bases on mount everest? Oh yeah, it's colonized all right, by about 100 dead bodies that have not been retrieved because it's so fucking impossible to survive there at all.

Colonizing the moon or mars is idiotic, and the Trekkie nerds probably won't figure that out until enough people die living their dream.
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I say we move Mars and Venus into the habitable Goldilocks Zone so we have 3 livable planets total. One should always remain as a backup planet where we only have unicorns and bunnies on it.
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>>133607367
>Jews in space
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>>133600819
>astronaut's shadow cast in a different direction than the crew's shadow
So are you trying to tell us that the "fake moon landing" meme is, itself, a hoax?
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>>133600819
If it was so obviously fake the Soviets would've known and would've continued trying to get their own guy on the moon. The fact that they gave up is proof enough the moon landing was real.
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>>133611790
>If it was so obviously fake the Soviets would've known

It was in every school textook.
>>133611395

The mission was not tracked going to the moon, that was just a transceiver. The only images of the landing stages on the moon come from nasa. Only amercan space probes can see them. amazing
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>>133612011
So they wrote about it being fake in their textbooks yet never attempted to call out america on the obvious fake on the world stage?
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>>133612333

It's sorta like how they all believed our supermarkets were props created to fool visitors, because that's what their fully stocked stores were. You can't blame soviets from that era for being duped, being as how the press was controlled by the state. Doesn't Pravda mean "truth"? LOL.
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>>133611395
>the feather had lead in the quill you moron

If they weighted the feather from the quill it wouldn't have fallen sideways like it did.
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>>133612333
>So

Rewrite your post.

The soviets couldn't photograph the 'landing sites' to prove they were empty. Am,ericans need photos to belive things. We literally lacked the technology to call BS. Best we could do was have a man waving a chart on local news in austin texas in 1970 before being deported. My uncle Vladislov did this and also wrote letter to the editor.
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>>133612011

Are you really brainwashed or a clever troll playing the part of a commie stooge? Either way, you're good at it.
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>>133608342
Its more plausible we had the technology in 69 to land on the moon. Because thats what happened you retard. I get it may be hard for someone like you to accept this, but when people practice and work at things, they learn from failures and eventually execute plans like visiting the moon.
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>>133612678
So not a single person in Russia had access to the recordings that were broadcast on american television? The same recordings that conspiracy theorists love to post screen grabs from "disproving" them?
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>>133612803
moon landing beliefs are an anglosphere delusion. Most of the world knows the truth. The only photos of the act comes from the accused, only american probes can see the landing stages. amazing
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>>133600819
Because Aliens live on the moon which you can see from the released Apollo moon orbital pictures.

In fact, there is a lot of evidence for two things if you look back to the history of US space command

A.) The United State has maintained a secret militarized space program for at least 30 years

B.) NASA is a front which doesn't seem to have any ambition to go back to the moon (why is this?)

C.) CIA documents show that Roswell craft and creatures were recovered, evidence by Von Braun seem to point to the fact that the US has light-speed capabilities and has already settled on Mars/other planets but hasn't gone to the moon because (aliens? Presumably)
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>>133613081
john lear plez go.
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Is it possible to believe in moon landing if you're flat earth truther
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>>133612794
Not only do we have tech to land on the moon, we have reverse-engineered alien spaceships

>>what is the Skinwalker ranch
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>>133613012
Did you expect the US to share all their information with the enemy? You realize the primary reason the US and USSR were trying to put men on the moon was for propaganda purposes.
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>>133613190

You do realize that the US military put a space station (similar to ISS) in outer space right?

You do know that Ronald Reagan did a speech where he said that our launch capabilities could put 300 men in space? But in the 80's, the US only had 4 NASA rockets and each rocket can only carry a crew of 10 people.

You do know that the US had a secret-not so secret- space program under the name: US Naval Space Command?
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>>133608342

What's more possible?

1. A super genius finnish man has uncracked a decades long government conspiracy.
2.Your keen analytical skills are no match for thousands of intelligence operatives.
3. Everyone else in the world is a sheep while you have awakened to the truth of reality thanks to your keen intellect.

or

Your mother drank alcohol while she was pregnant with you.
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>>133602133

*YAWNNNN*

Errm. So sleepy.
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>>133613227
>we have reverse-engineered alien spaceships

more likely you contract the a company who does. Everything in yankeeland is concealed by 'SAP' and 'proprietary',

Skinwalker ranch is spooky. I would like to see a timelapse of it through a capable satellite. Mucho anomalous

>>133613433

I am well awared of clandestine US space forces and platforms. We still have a Buran or two in secret joint contingnecy program...
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>>133600819
because even back then, people realized, there's nothing to get from the moon, except useless rocks
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>>133600819

How about you read a fucking book you gigantic faggot? We have the same thread every goddamn day. Just lurk and read the next time conspiracy theorists get BTFO again.

I'm not even gonna read this thread because I'm sure it's full of the same fucking retarded autists (I'm looking at you French faggot that posts the same pics).
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>>133604956
Only the designated craters please!
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nothing there.
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>>133613012

except the indian space program independently confirmed apollo landing site.
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>>133614696
post the indian photos wherein the landers are clearly visible. do it by uploading them here to /pol. (protip: you can't)

I'll wait.
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>>133614696

So did JAXA.

Shit anyone in '69 with a radio and knew trigonometry could have raised the alarm.

>pic related. JAXA's LRO 3D imaging of Apollo 15 site alongside an actual photo taken by the crew
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>>133614914

I'll post the LRO ones. It's the only telescope capable of resolving the sites. Not even Hubble can see them.
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>>133614914
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>>133614982
>I'll post the LRO ones

I didn't ask you to post those. You said that the indians had photos. post those (you can't)

>the indian space program independently confirmed apollo landing site.

upload 'em. (you can't)
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>>133615110

>can't into IDs

That wasn't me. Go back to whatever plebbit conspiracy board you came from.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_evidence_for_Apollo_Moon_landings
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>>133601662
And that budget is now being used to shove (((diversity))) down our throat
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>>133615178
The images you posted are from American space probes.

Let's see the ones from another country of the apollo landers (protip: they don't exist).
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>>133605301
>2. Kubrick is shit director.
Ok this is just dumb.
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>>133615260

Actually those images are from a Japanese probe.

>one second on google

>http://gizmodo.com/5352410/indian-probe-takes-clear-photo-of-apollo-15-hopefully-smashing-conspiracy-theories-forever

Kys
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>>133603800
Well they have space diapers for a reason, Pajeet
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>>133615260

>https://phys.org/news/2009-09-indian-satellite-moon-scientist.html

>http://www.ndtv.com/photos/news/indias-moon-mission-465#photo-4211
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>>133615514
I predicted you could not post images of the apollo landers that were taken by another country. Anyone who clics on your images can see this: there are no landers in any images taken by probes that aren't american.

It looks like I was right. You cannot do this. Only american probes can see the apollo landers. Really makes you think.
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>>133600819
We confirmed there was no oil on the Moon.
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>>133600819
It's hella expensive.

We could build a bridge across the Atlantic. The technology is there, its far more advanced and improved since ancient bridge building, but its monetarily prohibitive.

There a difference between something being possible and something being practical.
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>>133615717
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>>133600819
>why haven't we been back?

There's nothing there.

It's perfectly possible for us to dive to the bottom of the ocean, too. Why haven't we set up a metro station there?
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>>133600819
The only reason to do it was to measure dick size with the USSR. When drones can perform all scientific testing and research, spending on training astronauts, payload allocations for human cargo, and all the human error it can contribute, it makes no sense.
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>>133615811
please post an image of the apollo landers that isn't american in origin. Only your probes can see these landers. Amazing that you doubt this depite having only american images of the landers. Really cognizes your dissonance.
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Because the Democratic party raged against our going there in the first place, bemoaning that we were going to the moon while we still had poor minorities in our own country.

As far as the left is concerned, no more space travel until we cure world hunger and end muh patriarchy.
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People on this board believe that a 6 gorillion coverup is possible but can't entertain the notion that the moon landing was fake.

Seeing spaceships blow up in modern times vs the little rinky dink plastic box with aluminum foil on it landing successfully and returning is laughable
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>>133600819
>went to moon
>but we didnt feel like taking pictures of earth
>or possibly pictures of the stars even though they would be much clearer due to the lack of atmosphere
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>>133615924

>post pics taken by JAXA's LRO/SELENE, a Japanese probe
>POST ONE NOT TAKEN BY AN AMERICAN PROBE REEEE

How are you able to breath being this retarded?
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>>133600819
The real question is we went from the horse and buggy to the moon in roughly 60 years, after that there has been nearly no new advancement in other forms of travel technology. Sure refinements and slight improvements have been made but no new grand world changing technology as far as transportation or engines is concerned. That is more highly suspect than if we went to the moon or not.
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>>133616026

>rinky dink aluminum box

Apollo conspiracy theorists are truly the most uninformed retards on the planet. Literal mountains of evidence at your fingertips but you all REEE and cry foul like schizophrenics with superiority complexes.
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>>133616126
>post pics taken by JAXA's LRO/SELENE, a Japanese probe

I believe that you are lying here.

You failed to post an image wherein the lander were visible. perhap you could circle it in mspaint and upload so we can see what part of the image you believe contains the landers(protip you can't, the resolution is too low and you are too dumb for mspaint)
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>>133600819
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>>133616073
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/photo/2017/04/portraits-of-the-earth-moon-system/m21_as11-44-6551/main_900.jpg?1493054046

Lolwut?

>>133600819
>If we really went to the moon over 50 years ago, why haven't we been back?
We went there to scare the russians and show off we could get a rocket there. Then we massively cut NASA's percentage of the budget.

>The technology should've advanced so rapidly that going to the moon would be trivial.

Rockets are expensive, and so is rocket fuel. There's a reason SpaceX having a re-usable rocket is so fucking important.

Also notice how after that we had a fuck ton of shuttle launches? It became easier to get to space after that.

>Look at the first cars and how quickly they became mainstream for reference
Cars are economical for the masses. Moon-trips are enormously expensive and long, even accounting for modern technology.
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>>133616456
>no stars
ok
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>>133606687
The main issue I've heard with it is there is no dust on the feet that should have blown up when landing. It looks almost too perfect is usually the argument
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>>133616388

I know you're trolling but here. It's the best resolution that's been achieved so far. LEM descent stage that's still sitting on the moon.

>inb4 hurr i was only pretending!

Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
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>>133600819
>why haven't we been back?
Why bother?
As far as science goes, we can do 0-gravity experiments in the ISS and moonrock experiments with the leftover samples from the first trip there.
As for economics, the cost of going to the moon currently far outweighs any possible profit.

The reason we went there in the first place was for the patriotism/morale boost to citizens due to being the first country to land on the moon. But now that we've been there already, that bonus is gone. The cost can no longer be justified.
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>>133616705
That's an american image moron.
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>>133607116
I deny the Earth is round, 1v1 me bro and get rekt
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>>133616545

>I don't know how cameras work: the post

Get off your ass and pay your dents yuronigger.

>>133616653

That's because we grew up on Earth. Everything about the pictures looks foreign to us, because it's a foreign environment (a vacuum) where particles perform differently. The engine exhaust hit the dust, sending it in parabolic trajectories away from the lander itself. They didn't hit air resistance (like Earth) and float about aimlessly landing everywhere.
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1) We should be practicing space colonization on the moon. Which is roughly 250,000 miles away from the Earth. While is Mars at it's closest is 34796786 miles away from the Earth.
2) Less fuel for thrust is required on the moon. Making launches easier.

3)We could be mining Asteroids, refining on the Moon, and then float it back to Earth.

4) Aluminum Glass is strongest when made with less gravity. This right here is worth billions upon billions.

5) Having people adapt to living in lower gravity, having children, will they change? It would be fascinating to log any markers in evolution.

6)Because if I'm another country that goes into Space and America went on the Moon then I want to go on the fucking moon too!

I am sure there are more reasons to "GO BACK" to the moon.
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>>133616880
weak bait
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>>133616785

>a literal idiot posts with the communist flag

Color me surprised. Pic related. It's your ride.
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>>133616950

Not an argument.
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>>133616545
They're too dim to be seen vs. the sun hitting the moon and earth you sperg. It's hard to see the stars in a bright-lit parking lot at night right? Now imagine you're taking a picture on the moon with little/no atmosphere and a huge bright fucking thing filling the aperture.


This shit happens on rockets and shuttles too


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c6/Moonmir_sts91_big.jpg/957px-Moonmir_sts91_big.jpg
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>>133600819
>haven't been back
Back as in what? After the Apollo 11 moon landing on 16th July 1969 other astronauts went back and walked the moon again during the Apollo 12 mission in 14th November 1969. Then again on 31st January 1971 during the Apollo 14 mission, this time bringing us the first colour images. Then on 26 July 1971 three astronauts spent 3 days on the moon researching geology in the Apollo 15 mission. Then again 16 April 1972 with the Apollo 16. And then once more with Apollo 17 mission on 7 December 1972.
After that budget cuts, end of the cold war, and more interest in the Skylab orbiting station lead to the ultimate end of manned lunar missions.
The only reason anyone is considering going back is to found an actual semi-permanent lunar base there, as most other things have already been done and are thus not necessary. But the technology isn't quite there yet.
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>>133602378
>Van alan belt
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so we have estalished that only american probes can see the apollo landers. Really makes you think.

>the best moonhoax believers can do is post 3d models and lie about the provenence of the images they post.
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>>133600819
Simply put, we have very little reason to and those tax dollars are being spent elsewhere.
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>>133617001
>Get off your ass and pay your dents yuronigger.
argument

>>133617040
>can see stars from earth just fine
>but are ''too thin'' to be seen from space
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>>133600819
i guess you haven't watched, "apollo 18". all the answers are in that documentary.
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>>133610675
Because nearly half of /pol/ is retarded and nearly half is larping as retarded to bait. You and fpbp are the 1 percenters in these 229 posts.
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>>133616929
>We could be mining Asteroids

This is actually happening sometime in the next few years. They're launching grabber drones alongside NASA probes to go grab near-earth objects, then pull them into a controlled fall into the ocean.

The reason we don't colonize the moon is simple- there's still a fuck ton of land on earth to develop for far cheaper.
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Whose base is on Phobos?
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>>133617142

The point is that you don't know how cameras work.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGXTF6bs1IU
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>>133617222
>They're launching grabber drones alongside NASA probes to go grab near-earth objects, then pull them into a controlled fall into the ocean.

tfw Greenpeace parks their boat in the drop zone to save the sea life.
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>>133600819
>X happened once, therefore, X never happened.
Brilliant logic.
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>>133617278
That's really a car wash
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>>133616360
Wow that picture really made me believe in the moon landing. I can't believe I've been so misguided this time
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>>133617076
>Back as in what?

To a scientific, international colony, why do we have the ISS instead of a ground base on the moon?
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>>133617286
I'll take schoolyard insults to shitty youtube videos any day.
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>>133616929
>We could be mining Asteroids, refining on the Moon, and then float it back to Earth.
That's not how orbit works. We couldn't just "float" the stuff back to Earth. We'd have to accelerate it in the direction opposite to the direction in which it is orbiting in order to slow it down enough for it to fall back to Earth. That'd take fuel, which we'd have to ship to the moon, which would take more fuel.

>4) Aluminum Glass is strongest when made with less gravity. This right here is worth billions upon billions.
This isn't an argument for going back to the moon specifically. If the government wanted to make low-gravity aluminum glass, they could do it in orbit for far cheaper than they could on the moon, at an even lower gravity.

>5) Having people adapt to living in lower gravity, having children, will they change? It would be fascinating to log any markers in evolution.
"It would be cool to see what happens if we do X" does not justify such massive expenditure, especially to a government.
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>>133610395
Then how is it a hurdle that NASA are still working on for their "trip to Mars"
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>>133611520
How do you know that we know less about Antarctica than the moon? What metric is there to measure?
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>>133600819
turns out the moon isn't made of cheese after all, it's just a rock.
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>>133617278

phobos like the mars moon?

that could just be a big thing of ice or maybe a crashed satellite or drone

theres not much on phobos, the monolith is really the only "structure"
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>>133617474
As I said, the technology is not there. Ferrying all the raw resources and building material to make an actual base and keep it safe and working would cost the US so much that even nogs would come out of their ratholes to protest why they ain't getting moar gibs.
There have been solutions proposed such as 3D printing of building materials from the moon rock itself, but it's all still in the making.
2nd problem is the sustainability. Even the ISS needs resupply runs on a regular basis, not to mention the astronauts need breaks too. Delivering shit all the way to the moon is much more difficult, risky, costly, slower, and more complex, and thus the ISS is considered a better solution.

Also, keep in mind that the US did not build the ISS, the Russians started that project.
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>>133617796
Why haven't we sent a drone to inspect that thing yet? Or just aimed a deepspace telescope at it
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Still waiting on you Collosal Faggots to post images of the apollo landers that were taken by another country. Circle them in mspaint. Let us see clearly what you think is the landing stage in those non-american images

(protip: you can't)
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>>133618036
Deep space telescopes don't exactly provide a clear surface picture like regular telescopes do.
Most of the surface images that we have of other planets are either illustrations based on collected data, or pictures taken by passing probes.
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>>133601423
There is enough helium-3 on the moon to use as clean energy that our energy problems are fixed.
I am not sure if it was fake or not. I go back and forth. My reasons for suspcting it is faked are different than most.
1) Van allen radiation belt. They likely would have been fired.
2) The thickness of the lunar lander shell; it was reportedly the thickness of a pop can.
You do not need much in space or on the moon to protect you, as there is not even an atmosphere to push against.
However, the moon DOES have gravity. And the g-forces of blasting off of the moon, would likely have squashed this pop can vessel like a...well like a pop can.
I dunno though.
>>133617474
There are more experiments you can do in space, I know that much.
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>>133618036

maybe theyre scared of it

or maybe it's a ancient extraterrestial bomb
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>>133618146
>this picture of a navy seal youtuber will surely aid my post in some manner
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>>133618367

fite me zorba
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>>133618250
>There is enough helium-3 on the moon to use as clean energy that our energy problems are fixed.
The government, who runs the space program, is more concerned with cheap energy than clean energy.
After factoring in the fuel and construction costs to get mining equipment to the moon, to mine the helium, then to get it back to Earth, would it be more economically viable than simply putting an equivalent amount of money into processing some Earth-based fuel like oil or coal?
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Send all the Abos to space IMO
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>>133618775
>send abos to space
>come back a thousand years later to see how they've advanced
>all they've invented was a rock and some finger paintings
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>>133618568
For now for sure. But we both know if there is money to be made, people will figure out a way. This is a large part of the reason for increased interest in space, the moon/mars.
China wants it. The future will probably be space wars; if we survive long enough.
Also I am not so sure...anymore I wonder whether we really have ANY clue about wht tech the elite really has.
I don't believe there are human colonies on the dark side of moon, like some claim...but I would not be surprised in the least either. That most of the space program is for public consumption, but we don't know wtf is going on.
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>>133601653

this video don't prove nothin'

> no stars visible in space (unless it's dark...just like on Earth, ya only can see stars if it's dark out)
> tv executive flips out about muh stars
> video editor mixes in some stars, and does it badly because fuck that executive
> retards on the internet assume it's proof of flat earth conspiracy
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>>133600819
>why haven't we been back?
Because it's expensive as shit and the moon is just a big rock with nothing of actual interest in it?
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>>133600819
To get to the moon you have to pass the Van Allen Belts. They are ionizing radiation. I have no clue how they got past those with obtaining cancer.
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>>133605064
hmmmmmmmmm
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>>133600819
Non-reusable rockets, big enough to go to the moon, are too expensive to risk building and launching at a complete financial loss outside of cold-war-level tensions. It is for this precise reason that makes what spacex is doing so revolutionary and makes science trips to the moon so useless.
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>>133600819
Did NASA ever take one of their shuttles for spin around the moon? I know they were not designed for that purpose but if a tincan can be piloted to the moon and back surely a flyby in the shuttle would have been easily achievable?
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>>133619199
The reason most pics and vids of Earth don't have stars is because of exposure, just like when you aim a camera to a window from within a building.
If you make it focus on the outside, the inside will get so dark it will be pitch black, and the same applies on space, since all planets reflect a fuckload of light, so they have to choose between showing the Earth, or showing the stars.

What happened in that webm I think is that two streams mixed together and "fused".
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>>133605064
It's laughably real.
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>>133605064
Explain the gif
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>>133600819
>pic
kek
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>>133600819
They built pyramids in X000s BC. Nothing that tall built again for thousands of years.

It's because they did a huge thing with shitty technology not up to the task, but they did it anyway hang the cost.

We've got to invent the bulldozer and crane before we can build skyscrapers all over the place. Can't be done with slaves and donkeypower.
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>>133602133
That's why they sent two missions at the same time. One to see if it was viable at all, another with the actual astronauts who'd follow suit.
As it turned out the radiation was significant enough to warrant a lifetime supply of rad blockers, but not enough to kill them.
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>>133605064
who stayed back on the moon to record this?
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>>133606536
>why do you think they haven't made reusable rockets and shit before spaceX?
Because NASA has been on suicide watch since the two space shuttles exploded.
Plus, the Cold War ended, so NASA's budget has been getting lower and lower due to no competition.

>>133619618
Moon lander launches astronauts back to Earth.
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>>133619665
I did.
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>>133619665
No one, that camera, and the launching pad of the moon lander, are still on the moon.
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>>133619302
I guess people die every time they get a chest x-ray, don't they?
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>>133605534
you should read "the tyranny of images" by Baudrillard: the pictures on the screen have never been real. This does not prove or disprove anything. The D-Day landing footage was shot on a california beach during a training exercise. Sometimes it's just not economical to record shit for fags like you to watch, should have studied harder and been an astronaut.
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>>133619764
that's an american pic you homo

>>133618146
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>>133605790
err. I don't see how you could possibly be right there. Seems easy enough to me.

>not saying we didn't land on the moon, I don't really care either way to be honest.

but I would have to assume its easy to fake a Moon landing than to actually go there in a complicated technical space rocket through space... MUST be easier to fake, surely?
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>>133619823
Probably not, but 1969 technology probably would.
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>>133619302
The biggest problem with those is ensuring they don't damage electronics, shielding humans is fairly easy, unless we are talking about interestellar medium.
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>>133619618
Yeah, looks real to me.
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>>133602133
Why do you think the Soyuz looks covered in an aluminium condom?
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>>133619943
That's why they still use ye olde ancient chips in today's ships. They're too big for the interference to make a difference.
Consequence is that your pocket calculator from the 80s actually was more powerful than the hardware in the space missions.
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>>133619865
Why would other countries have their own video of an American space mission?
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>>133603827
So why not use the technology from 1969 if it so much cheaper?
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>>133605064
Explain the fact that any amateur astronomer can see the shit on the moon.
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>>133603273
The press conference was chilling, first time I watched it. I could only get through the first 10 minutes or so. It is excruciating to watch. All three are so uncomfortable, almost as if they've been told their families will die gruesome and painful deaths if they (the astronauts) do not cooperate.

Almost as if.
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>>133620197
You admit that only american probes can see the apollo landers. Only American probess can see the alleged american mission's landers...Really cognizes the cognition.
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>>133602381
He is just baiting please don't pay attention to this faggot.
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>>133600819
Can't fake it
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>>133604492
There is a reason to go back to the moon. Look up helium-3
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>>133620140
No they don't. Your understanding of technology sound like Battlestar Galactica.
You don't really think that all the stuff we send into space still uses old tech do you?
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>>133611393
Exactly, it's like they think the moon doesn't get beat by meteors like Wesley Snipes beating Halle Berry
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>>133601036
>we went to the moon to say fuck you to communists
>now there isnt a good reason to go , unless we need to say fuck you to communists which is a good reason
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>>133600819
It was discovered that the dark side of the moon has a big dick on it so we decided to quit while we were ahead.
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>>133620478
There is a reason to mine it, not to send people back.
You don't need people to mine the moon.
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>>133600819
the lizard men already are working 24/7 at the moon for superweapon and dont want anyone to come there

it would be extremely important to send rockets to inspect the whole area
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There's no internet on the moon, so there's no reason to go there.
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>>133620547
>What is the space race?
Nationalistic pride and a show of technological superiority, back when the general global population as a whole wasn't a bunch of pansy cucks
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>>133600819
>If we really went to the moon over 50 years ago, why haven't we been back?
NASA constituted a little over 5% of the entire federal budget at the height of the Apollo Program. Today it's a little under 0.5%.

If you gave NASA ten times the funding and a political mandate to go to Mars in ten years, we'd be on Mars in ten years... but that's not going to happen. People don't rally around big flagship programs and public works projects the way they did 50, 75, 100 years ago, the funding and the political will just aren't there.
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>>133619692
That's fake as shit. You get around 30 seconds of free fall when skydiving from 10000 feet to 5500 feet when the parachute opens. That whole webm is only 30 seconds from when the rocket is still gaining altitude and only takes about 15 seconds from when it descends from something probably around 100,000 feet all the way back down to Earth.
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>>133606015
Helium-3
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>>133607514
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>>133620562
Wouldn't mining it cause a reduction in mass, fucking up its orbit and having it either potentially crash into earth and/or fuck with the ocean? Sounds bad senpai
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>>133605992
You are feeding the low quality trolls.

Stop it.
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>>133601117
unfortunately, actually, seriously, this.
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>>133620816
No, in fact, making it lose a big amount of mass would make it stray further from Earth even more.
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>>133620770
Until we can actually work out the engineering kinks in fusion, there's no point in harvesting potential fuel for more advanced fusion devices.

It'd be like medieval europeans building a deep sea oil drilling platform before having the technology to refine or utilize gasoline.
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>>133620918
So less crashing and more ocean fucking
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>>133620738
It looks like a chunk may have been taken out of the middle of the video. The landing pad pops into view awfully fast.
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>>133620562
It would be pretty hard to mine the moon with NO human labor whatsoever...maybe someday we could achieve fully autonomic recovery of helieum-3...but you would likely need people to start it.
In addition, when you reach the point you are sending huge ass mining equipment to the moon, sending people will no longer be a trick.
Interestingly enough, there was a movie made about this.
Called Moon...came out in 2009. Fiction...but is an awesome movie though. Don't wanna spoil the story, but everyone should watch it. It is actually a really good not well known movie, but it also gives you an idea of how they might solve the human problem.
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>>133620816
Not to any significant degree.
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>>133603148

/thread
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>>133621065
When you send people into space, you also need to send oxygen, food, water, et cetera, everything needed to keep a human alive. Then you have to either bring them back when they run out or send resupply ships.

When you send machines into space, you literally just send the machine and it keeps working practically forever on solar power.
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In fact the easiest way of accomplishing mining the moon, would be to not send the helieum-3 back to earth, but process and utilize on the moon, and send the energy alone back to earth. Tesla style.
But that would involve power companies being unable to control or charge people for power. They will fight this to the death.
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>>133619199
>being this intellectually dishonest about what was shown
>ignores the fact the earth earth is clearly missing, while there is an overlay of city lights and weather effects still playing
>ignores the fact the same pitch blackness of stars and space is overlapped onto where the earth is

that video is just like the "proof" that the holocaust happened.

excuse me, the UN would like a word with you

> since all planets reflect a fuckload of light, so they have to choose between showing the Earth, or showing the stars.

except the webmd in question is suppose to be night when the planet is in night, and literally facing away from the sun

but those mental gymnastics are cute
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>>133621722
was for >>133619456
as well
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>>133621722
>22
>>133621777
>777

Astounding my good man. Congratulations.
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>>133621667
There is also a whole assload of water discovered on the moon. When you have water, you can create your own oxygen and whatever else you need.
Everything humans need to survive on the moon, is already there, with our technology that can extract the gases/solids/liquids you need.
Just like the mars mission plans. Live off the land, just like pioneers.
In fact if you are not talking about the moon, once you get past Mars, out towards Jupiter, there is infinitely more water in space, than here on earth. That is where it all came from.
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>>133620336
Yeah something is up, if you watch the pre launch press conference they act a lot more normal.
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>>133621980
you could even use Beam transmission to power things on the moon to get the ball rolling.
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>>133620816
Removing helium would actually make it gain mass, since helium is lighter than air.
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>>133622268
Yup. It is even possible they already are. If no one has tools that tap into this kind of beamed energy, then they could be using this kind of energy right now, and we would never know it.
We might be the only idiots still using power lines and paying for power. Probably not...but it could be the case.
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>>133622503
Thinks space is made of air....
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>>133621680
Sending the power to Earth would be incredibly inefficient if you were to do it via radiation, given how many directions the Earth is not in, much of the waves would be scattered to space.
Transmission via laser isn't feasible because the moon's orbit isn't geosynchronous, making it incredibly difficult to keep a laser from the moon constantly pointing to a receiver on Earth, not to mention the scattering effects the atmosphere would have on it.
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>>133600819
We'll go to mars before the moon... I'm calling it
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>>133622586
Even if someone spotted one on the moon the sheer audacity of it's existence would hide it. The astronomer would likely not report it.

At best he would see a hot spot on the lunar surface.

>>133622808
shhhh. adults are talking.
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>>133622966
*astronomer/observer
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>>133622503
The heleium-3 is just a tiny layer on the surface of the moon, it is not like traditional mining of the variety most would think of. It is right on the surface, as the sunlight on the surface for millions of years is what creates helieum-3.
Mining it wwould not make a big dent in mass.
>>133622808
Yeah, I am not an expert on Tesla Beam tech...I know what I am about with some stuff, but that is too much for me. You are likely right though, we would need to improve technology.
But again..that is just the technology that we know about.
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