NASA open to moon-base after announcing they can't afford

>>133598470
the moon base has literally only 2 things over a mars base

1) on the side we see from earth given how the moon rotates as it orbits its shielded from debris if you build the base on that side. craters we see were formed long ago and the moon when it was closer as it moved farther out had probably turned a bit more

2) its closer and there is no point in a given year where it would be harder to reach

that said its still a waste of resources at the current time if they dont have a working model on earth. it would still be more than a month for anything to be sent to the moon from earth so they need a proof of theory thats works. none of the bio domes work

and extended time on the moon would weaken your heart. no return to earth after a point and no doctors on the moon

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But we already have one, or had one, rather.

https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/P790005-1028_e.html

See Metadata or pic related.

>>133598470
pretty sure we already have a moonbase faggot

>>133598470
What exactly would we do on the moon? At least Mars has a chance of being terraformed.

I want to take a Japanese porn actress up there to giver her moonpies.

>>133598841
Here we go.

>>133598470
>desolate piece of shit planet with nothing cool on it

That's the Moon. And we've explored the Moon with Apollo, so we know the Moon has less surprises for us than Mars could have.

>>133598470

Loads of energy and materials up there to built large structures with low G forces. Maybe they could start to manufacture a spherical ring up there?

>>133598887
Helium 3 extraction and low gravity engineering.

>>133598470
space doesn't exist

get it right

>>133598470
>moon-base is WAY more bad ass than walking around on a desolate piece of shit planet with nothing cool on it.
>the moon isn't a desolate piece of shit with nothing cool on it.

>>133598470
Trump is putting pressure on NASA to GET SHIT DONE. Lots to make up for after the Obama years.
Mars is just a shit test. Getting space industry started is the goal.

That aside I fully expect (((them))) to try to keep us on earth so we can be guilted to care for by "muh climate" and "muh niggers"

>>133598470
the money we spent in iraq for one week would have funded nasa for 20 years

>>133599402
>the moon isn't a desolate piece of shit with nothing cool on it.

Did you confuse Mars for the Moon?

need to get our priorities in order and go for it
long enough have our eyes been on the ground

According to Buzz Aldrin there are already structurea on the moon

>>133598470
The US already had a base on Mars but it was destroyed by UR, whoever the hell that is.

>>133599402
Listen faggot, think of the moon as a checkpoint, we don't even know if our current structures would last in space, why not start on the moon then go to Mars?

>>133598931
Which one?

>>133598716
It's not a contest between a base on Mars and one on the moon, a base on Mars isn't even the question right now, just going there is. Moon-base is realistic.

>>133599464
Literally this. Who gives a flying fuck about the climate supposedly changing in the next 100 years if we have the technology to leave and go to better planets by then?

>>133599546
>>133599570
Fuck the moon.
Fuck NASA
Let's use the money on more important shit.

>>133599012
there's absolutely nothing on either of those balls of rocks. When it'll be cheaper send up a bunch of automated miners to get shit, but there's absolutely no reason to spend trillions on a bunch of clowns doing jack shit there.

>>133599728
>t. Tyniqua and her eight children

>>133598470
Mars has resources which in turn needs democracy.

yeah mars loooks shit anyway, moon is the only place humans could easily migrate too. Trump needs to put more money into nasa.

>>133599870
What resources? They aren't even sure if there's water on Mars. Nasa should sell real estate on Mars/Moon to fund going there. I'd be cheap Earth-side property in a heart beat.

>>133599967
>be
Buy

>>133599570
>why not start on the moon then go to Mars?

Mars is a much better place to start. It has an atmosphere, albeit an incredibly thin one, but it has one. This is a lot better than nothing. It's lower gravity is still much greater than that of the Moon's and you can actually live on there/pro-create long term because of this. With the Moon you'd have to constantly come down to Earth if you wanted to pro-create/get more people. This isn't really solvable. Further, Mars's day cycle is much closer to Earth's than the Moon's. And to conclude, there is a lot more there in the way of resources that can be used to build a long-term habitat. Mars is actually easier once you get there, it's just further away.

Using the example of earlier settlers and pioneers in America, it is akin to wanting to choose Arizona over California. You pick California despite how much further away it is.

>>133599916
its not so much the destination and what it has to offer thats important.
its about being able to go and the technology required to do it that is.

>Your body destroys itself in space
>Can't even reach anything besides the moon
>Moon is covered in super dust that givers you cancer and eats through shit
>Madrive amount of shit circling around earth that will tear apart anything big
Space travel is future meme shit. We can't even survive and artificlw gravity is fairy tale shit.

a moon base is way harder and more expensive than a mars base

t. zubrin, the man who has come up with the only credible planet colonisation mission

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>>133599967
>They aren't even sure if there's water on Mars.

Jesus Christ, Australia.

>>133600042
We still need to transport things to Mars (food, water, terraforming equipment eventually maybe) it's much much cheaper to send this stuff to the moon, ferrying humans between earth and moon multiple times a year is cheaper than sending 1 manned mission to Mars.

>>133600074
>artificial gravity is fairy tale shit

t. no higher education

>>133598716
3) Destroys Flat Earth moronic theories

>>133600150
Okay, tell me what you plan to melt polar fucking ice caps in far subzero temperatures with, because let me tell you buddy a portable camping stove isn't going to cut it.

>>133599728
Like feeding more niggers?

Fuck you, I dont want my taxes going to space niggers
Fuck you
Your space basketball
Your anal probes
And you again

>>133600314

Nukes or Asteroids.

>>133598470
fuck off midf

>>133600390
If there were niggers living on the moon the U.S would have already found a way to send them lots of free money and other shit.

Fuck this planet.

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we already have a mars base

>>133600475
is...is that Moon internet defense force?

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>>133600479

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sure they are

I hope that Chinks make it first.
It would be a pretty big blow on West's ego and If US is the first, you can bet your ass that it's going to be some diverse bullshit group that they send up there.
>First transgender black woman on the Moon.
>Nasa celebrates the diversity of the team.
Fuck that.

>>133600523

i can use photoshop to

>>133600193

You have to do that to the Moon as well, except that the Moon has no real long term expansion. Mars does because the people there can literally make their own fucking kids, and don't need to either go back to Earth or have someone sent there. This is key to any sort of colonialism. You need people in the colony. You can either make, or send people. Ideally you can do both. Mars can do both, the Moon can only do one. And you can only stay on the Moon for a short period of time (relative to your life-span) before you have to go back to the Earth. Also, in theory, you can grow things on Mars. You will never be able to do that on the Moon without avoiding soil altogether and importing everything. The Moon is just a giant thresher that destroys everything. I can't even imagine trying to build anything there without the dust just destroying everything. It fucking can eat through Kevlar like it doesn't even exist. Any mechanical components that move and are exposed to this, would just be destroyed. The rover and the suits they used for the landings were fucking annihilated because of the dust.

>>133600723
>everything we know has been forever tainted until it is either fixed or it all comes collapsing down
Sheeit

>>133600803
Jelly baby

Dude there is serious doubt a baby can.be carried.full term with the lower gravity. If you don't know this it means you are talking out of your ass STOP

>>133598470
Lunar dust makes it impossible to settle a base on the moon.

https://phys.org/news/2008-09-nasa-dirty-secret-moon.html

>>133600652
I wonder about this. If we every found a sufficiently advanced alien civilization, and established friendly contact, how would we integrate our economies? The currency, specifically. Would it have to start off as pure exchange of goods?

>>133601273
ever found***

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>>133598470
they cant even go to the moon cuz earth is flat

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>>133598470
Why though? What's up there?

>>133599557
Source me skippy

We claimed the moon already.

>>133600692
They needed to make fake films for propaganda because they didn't have the technology to film on the moon. That doesn't mean they never went on the moon.

>>133601479

Sorry it was on Phobos not The Moon

https://youtu.be/bDIXvpjnRws

>>133600314
It's not as if you need to melt the whole fucking thing.

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>>133600723

Eh, no.

Depending on the mission the people who go there could either be astronauts, or private individuals. Zubrin and Musk have mentioned that the FH could get people to Mars, just to go there though. Essentially like the Moon missions. To stay there for longer, you need a lot more rockets, and a lot more powerful rockets. Something like the final proposed block of SLS, or the ITS. Anything else won't do. Zubrin's long-term plan is built around an SLS-type rocket. Musk on the other hand wants something much larger via the ITS.

I have a feeling though that Musk's ego won't let him give NASA the first shot at Mars because he needs to put that feather in his cap for the ITS. This is the whole reason why he's doing the Grey Dragon mission. To break down the notion with politicians that anything beyond LEO is strictly NASA, and NASA alone in capability. NASA believes this as well and is trying to maintain a sort of monopoly because they want the gibs from the government to go to them and no one else.

I am attaching a picture of the 2017 Astronaut candidates. Yes, there is a number of women, and even a black woman but I looked over their credentials and pretty much all of them except one of the blondes has been around NASA/Spaceflight for a considerable amount of time. The black chick even did two internships (one for JPL and another for NASA), and also helped do research for Curiosity. So it isn't like she's not qualified.

Either way, with a NASA mission they'll send whoever is the most qualified for the mission. Specifically because they don't want to risk anything bad happening. Musk on the other hand will send whoever happens to pay him, within reason. He knows exactly how bad an accident would be for his company.

>moon
>real
whats next? a round globe?
lmao normies

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>>133600299
> Moronic theories
Pic related

>>133601650
Thanks mate.

>go to the moon 50 years ago
>don't bring back any cheese

NASA sucks.

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You can't build on the moon because it's not yours to go.

>>133598470
aeiou

>>133600074
Regolith can be glassed with a huge-ass nuke and the base buildt in the crater (or under it
Also regolith can be fused and used as contruction material in thick 3d printed layers granting nearly unlimited growth to the expansion of the base

>>133601547
then where is the proof?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJNhXCezSfs

>>133598887
you could literally terraform the moon easier.

it's perfectly capable of holding an atmosphere for several generations

regardless, you're jumping 500 years in the future for no reason. how about we learn how to make our own fuel first...

>>133599012
""""we""""

>>133598470
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>>133601415
Helium-3.

>>133598470
If I wanted to walk around a desolate rock-strewn wasteland, I'd visit your country.

>>133598470
Moon bases are sooooo 1970's

>>133603471
Which we don't have the tech to use, right now.
Low-grav construction and engineering though, would grant us a solid spearhead for missions farther away. Possibly asteroid mining with huge ships made in lunar orbit. Also mass drivers.

>>133603667
Yes anon, Australia is a desolate wasteland with nothing of value whatsoever, you're completely right, so never come here, ever. Trust me on this one, it sucks and you'd be wasting your time. Just leave us here to suffer on this rock with no natural resources/attractions. Go on without us.

>>133598887
>Mars has a chance of being terraformed
When will this meme come to an end ?

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>>133600299
>destroys holocaust is a hoax moronic theories

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>>133601828
"b-b-b-b-but muh pictures from space!"

they've had a kike on the space station, he went up there to reconfigure the fucking cameras and windows to give the earth a curve.

it's like the bent mirrors at the carnival.

It's a well known fact that NASA hired Stanley Kubrick to direct the moon landings. Unfortunately he is such a perfectionist he insisted they film on location.

Its not possible to go to the moon, the Aliens don't allow visitors there.

Why do you think most of the moon landing pictures were faked/photoshopped?

To hide the Alien Structures on the Moon.

Also our moon is pretty much the only of its kind which makes it very strange, some say the moon is a hollow alien base.

>>133601273
> pure exchange of goods
Yes. If they find something valuable we'll give it to them and in return they don't kill us all.
#pay2live

>>133598470
>piece of shit planet with nothing cool on it
>largest volcano in the solar system
>nothing cool on it

Mars could also have a shit-ton of resources, including oil and water, which would both be crucial to any colony.

>>133598470
Mars has water and an atmosphere. The moon does not.