>inherit 10,000,000 >trust fund yields conservative 5%

Life isn't fair, deal with it

>>133566525
We can make it more fair

>>133566484
Of course it's fair. Inheritance is a perfectly legitimate form of acquiring wealth.

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>>133566583
Communism always leads to mass graves. Is that "fair"?

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>>133566583
And the Commisars decide what is fair, correct? You might not like it when someone decides to treat you "fair".

>>133566484
That inheritance didn't fall from the sky, your father or grandfather worked his ass of for it.

If they chose not to spend that money on themselves, but to instead allow you to inherit it then the state has no right to say otherwise

>>133566484
Your parents worked hard to give you that money.

>>133566525
t. Chad Chadson

>>133569523
>worked hard
>>133567117
>worked his ass off
Not really. They got lucky in the stock market.

>>133566766
>>133566903
>muh communism

>>133566583
Define fair

>>133570151
By that logic every success is simply luck

>>133566484
Bank doesnt need anything anymore, in order to create electronic credits for you. Everybody pays the interest on every piece of shit going

>>133570247
"gibs me dat"

>>133566583
who gets to choose what's fair?

>>133566484

>families should not be allowed to provide for their children

I am so glad europe is being washed away in a brown tide. You deserve it.

>>133570151
Stock market always goes up, it's not like the casino.

>>133566583

Sounds good. You get the shitty worker's apartment and rusty bike, I get the swanky dacha and personal car. Work hard at Factory 473 and someday you may be in charge of quotas. If you work badly, you will be shot for incompetence. If you work too well, you will be shot for being a threat. The trick is to be just the right kind of mediocre, never stand out, and never complain about the drab hell of your bleak existence. You will never have a dacha, but you will have your fair and equal share of misery.

>>133570604
Yeah because robots scan twatter and put orders before your ass can spergly mash the mouse

poorfags detected

>>133566484
A fair system would not let people acquire so much wealth to begin with, it's no surprise that most of the extremely lucrative industries are completely inaccessible to startups due to the excessive amounts of regulations and lobbying in government to make sure there's no competition

add to that the influx of cheap labor from third world countries which drives wages down and cost of living up

and of course (((bankers)))

All reasons why people are poor and unable to not be poor

>>133570765
It's funny. Business men are pretty much lemonade stand owners playing simulation games. Whats it like to sit on your ass?

>>133566484
Someone worked hard for that money. It's their legacy. It's something for them to leave their family when they are gone.

>>133566583
You will be one of the people whose circumstances will be made more fair, I suppose?

>>133566484
because your dad, or his dad, worked hard to secure a future for his children

>>133566484
It is not fair, life is not fair. On the other hand you live in the west in one of the most material wealthy countries on the planet and you enjoy a stranded of living that kings of the past would be jealous of.

Why do you care some person is more fortunate? Focus on your own life.

>>133566484
>work your whole life to make your children's lives better
>some descendant of lazy ass parents starts whining about how good your kids have it
>they want to take everything I made for my kids away from my kids
how is this fair?

>>133566484
Poverty mindset, the OP

>>133566484
>make 10,000,000 through decades of hard work and sound investing
>have a son
>die
>government takes all my money and leaves my son destitute
How is this fair?

>>133566484
>fair?
Its a pointless question because life isnt fair. Its a concept every child in every generation before the boomers understood at a young age. Nobody gives a shit about you. Deal with it.

>>133572340
Inheritance is nepotism

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cuz the dad earend the money by producing cool shit

now ou get to work and study nigger

>>133572516

Not an argument. What's wrong with nepotism?

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>>133566484
>How is this fair?

kill yourself. fairness is no value to decide anything upon. you have no right to that money what so ever anyway. just because your parents are good for nothing losers doesn't mean everyone has to suffer. KILL ALL POOR PEOPLE! FUCKERS ARE HOLDING US BACK!! EVOLUTION NOW!

>>133572516
Very insightful.

>>133566484
It's only losers who cry about being "fair".

>>133570733
because on the stock market you can only day trade. duuurrrrrrr

>>133566484
>How is this fair?
What the fuck is fair? Grow up you fucking child, fair doesn't exist. Didn't get born into a rich family? Tough shit, take what you can or you won't have it. The world owes you nothing.

>>133566484
It's not fair, but fuck you for trying to steal it.

>>133573368
worst of all: it is being fair. fairness is to get the fruit of your labour and be able to decide on them at your will. It is not entitlement to other peoples achievement without having to overcome the same obstacles. people who cry about fairness are greedy entitled fucks and deserve to be shot. there's nothing good that can come out of such talk.

>>133570733
what are u even trying to say i dont understand

>>133566583
can we though? this is like medieval doctors who tried to cure disease by doing dumb shit like bloodletting.

you can try to fix a problem but you also could just make shit 1000x worse.

>>133573541
Then its hard to expect one owes anything to the world if that's the case. Please.

>>133566484
Your parents bought you a computer during school and I'm a dirt farmer, how is that fair?
Your parents fed you, I'm My parents are African dirt farmers, how is that fair? Give me your computer and food to make it fair

>>133566484
Studies have shown that intelligence is linked more directly to later life wealth than inherited wealth is. Are you saying to punish those who are intelligent enough to make money, that always works well, look at North Korea if you want a modern example.

>>133566484
Life isn't fair, mind your own business and just get on with your own shit. It's only money, as long as you have enough to feed, house and clothe yourself with the occasional luxury then what's to worry about?

/pol/ will unironically defend this because they're manifestations of the last stage of capitalism cuckery

>>133574520
One does owe nothing to the world, its only through direct human interaction can you owe anything, but even then, if you really wanted to, you could take your life or kill those to whom you owe.

>>133566484
Because someone, somewhere down the line worked his ass off so his children, and his children's children wouldn't have to work as hard. Now it's their children's children's children's turn to not have to work at all, because of their inheritance. That's fair.
Don't like it? Maybe your ancestors should have worked harder.

With the amount of time people spend trying to figure out how to make other people pay for their shit, they could research and practice stock trading, and then they wouldn't have to fucking bitch about it.

>>133566484
Ok lefty...
Wealth will be distributed over time. Presumably the person will have children and the money will be doled out among his kids. Kids will have kids etc.. within a few generations the money will be gone if they don't work. So the question is not whether or not the money will go back into the system. It is how many generations before it does. Think of rich people as the nation's bank account and by keeping the wealth on private hands we prevent the poor (who be definition do make good decisions with money) from blowing it all in a single generation and bankrupting the nation. The accumulator of wealth serves a good purpose as a defense against the mob with regards to spending all their money in one day. You just don't want to wait for the money because you want it now. Since your are incapable of becoming wealthy think of this way, that rich guy is making sure your grandchild will have a tax base so they don't starve.

Holy shit this thread is undeniable proof of the irredeemable faggotry and autism that /pol/ is composed of.

>>133566484
>Rich people ought to be force to give me their money because I'm a worthless faggot.
Kill yourself.>>133574858
>/pol/ will unironically defend this because they're manifestations of the last stage of capitalism cuckery

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>>133566484
>All these cuckitalists defending capitalists

Really made me think

>>133566484
>ownership is theft
Get a load of this kid

>>133574858
>>133574858
>/pol/ will unironically defend this because they're manifestations of the last stage of capitalism cuckery
A simpler explanation, you shit-eating faggot, is that we work hard for our wealth and don't want it redistributed to retarded parasites like you. Not having a job, you wouldn't understand this.

It's completely fair. And If the fed wasn't creating inflation, their 10 mil locked away would actually cause a deflation affect (slightly) and your holdings would be worth more. Ofc, prices would go down as well and wages with it and you'd be right where you started.
It's their money and someone worked for it.

>>133574904
You do realize every child born in America gets about 50k in agitate debt, right?

I seriously recommend you start screaming this piddle at the next newborn you see. little shit better get their act together.

>>133575409
kek, thanks for proving my point cuck

2 women give birth. One has a normal kid, leaves hospital after 2 days. Other kid is born with bad genes, defective heart, brain damage... How is this fair?? Faggot OP thinks hospital should injure healthy baby to even the score.

>>133566484
>Make lots of monies.
>Die knowing your family is taken care of.

Seems fair to me that one is able to allocate what happens to their money after their death.

>>133570733
no, because the very presence of the stock market implies there is economic activity: people are doing things, and it grows in complexity and size every day

>>133566484
By having limits on the power of money.

>>133566484
>you shouldn't be allowed to make more than what I consider you to deserve
Are you really, sincerely, wondering why people aren't jumping at this idea?
It's horrendous. That's why.

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>>133566484
>>inherit 10,000,000
>>trust fund yields conservative 5% ROI p.a.
>>never have to work a single day
>How is this fair?

Millions of white people were NOT born as dumb niggers in Africa with AIDS/Ebola

How is this fair?

Life isn't fair.

>Neck yourself faggot

>>133566484
I work my ass off (like my father and grandfather before him) to make sure my kids want for nothing. Some commie fuck who's dad wasn't around shows up, screaming about inequality. How is it fair for my work to go to him?

>>133566484
>Work hard to get 10,000,000 to leave your son
>All taken by commie because it isn't 'fair'

slide thread anyway, big happening over at
>133530332

>>133575563
I mean hey, I was born the son of a farmer, and fucking studied my ass off starting in early elementary, I'm a systems engineer now. The only unfair thing in life is that most people don't realize that life is a ratrace until its too late. Ultimately life is a zero sum game, and the best you can hope for is what you can provide for yourself.

>>133566484
>born looking like Giselle
>born looking like Venus Williams

Life is not fair. Work with what you got, faggot.

>>133530332

>>133570151
Prove it

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>>133566583
nah fuck you, deal with it, it's natural selection bolshewik

>>133575833
You don't have a fucking clue what communism is buddy

>>133575836
>People can legitimately get 10 mil for working
Ayy lmao

>>133575522
I literally just got off work where I was in the sun for 8 hours you presumptuous faggot.

>>133575870
Hey, as long as you get off on the misery of others. who cares?
You're a winner because you beat people who were less ratty than you. Nice job.

>>133566484
life isnt fair hans

>>133566583
So much for diversity

unregulated capitalism would be totally fair

and everyoien 100000x richer

>>133576129
I give to charity, and try my best to help individuals and contribute to my community, its just idiotic for me to be told that, hey, you decided to sacrifice a lot of your childhood studying, but those fucks who bullied you? Yeah, they deserve some of your success. Neato.

>>133566484
>>>133566583
>Communism always leads to mass graves. Is that "fair"?


only in death can a pawn be equal to a king

>>133576272
Literal autism

>>133576340
You have internally equated yourself to a rat, good luck with yourself.

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>>133575969
Nazis losing to communists is natural selection

>>133576522
>Implying we all don't suffer from basic animal desires.
This is the only reason why I support capitalism. If we all didn't have basic mammalian desires, communism could work.

>>133576200
>Serfs living under Feudalism
>Hey fellow serfs maybe this isn't the best system
>Isn't in unfair that the nobles have everything
>Too bad this is the best system we have life isn't fair

>>133576467
no you are just stupid

youtube yaron brook

socialism is why USA not 1000s of times richer

some econmoists estimate if we kept gdp 1% total gov spending liek 1800s
we have total GDP 150T by now with gov spending 1T

I love the /pol/ threads where their autism and complete lack of understanding of economics is exposed.

>>133576742
>>And of all the choices out there, this fur fag chose to identify as a historic carrier of pestilence.

>>133576985
Yeah, you should see what the average person's understanding of economics is, let alone their potential to understand it, man its a fucking mystery why socialism fails every time.

>>133566766
Sure, everyone is equally dead.

>>133577112
>people think our money is backed by tha gold that isn't in Fort Knox

>>133577108
Implying that the western image of the rat is the only one. Not like the rat is a symbol of luck in china...

The only argument these capcucks have is that "gommunism gills people" while completely ignoring all the genocide and death that happens under capitalism. Brainwashed by fictional books like the gulag archipelago or something

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>>133577112
>socialism fails every time
You need to leave /pol/ and save yourself, son

>>133566484
Because someone earned that money and decided to give it to you.

That money is invested in the economy, allowing businesses to expand, providing more opportunities for everyone else.

>>133570151
Then they took a risk. The person who received that money needed it to expand their business. Because your parents took on that risk, there's now presumably a thriving business that employs people.

>>133577275
>while completely ignoring all the genocide and death that happens under capitalism.
I'm sorry, faggot. Could you please point me to the 120 million innocent citizens killed by their own government that happened in NON-Communist nations in the twentieth century?

Didn't think so.

>>133566484

The alternative is even less fair.
>Work hard
>Provide a good or service that is so valued by consumers they are collectively willing by their own volition to pay their hard earned to have access to.
>Earn a 100,000,000
>Wish to pass on hard earned wealth to your beloved children and grandchildren.
>Instead state confiscates it and distributes it to a bunch of fuckwits who achieved nothing in life but sat around on 4chan masturbating to futa while collecting autismbucks undermining the incentives to produce wealth in the first place
>All in the name of "fairness"

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>>133566583
Fuck you.

>>133576086
>for our wealth

Just because you work doesn't mean you are worth that much. You're out in the sun. If you aren't a super skilled laborer you're replaceable as fuck and pretty much worthless as labor. Get fucked and sort yourself out.

>>133566648

Reminder that 1/2 of American politicians are in favor of cutting all taxes on inheritance which amount to a about a 20 billion dollar a year tax cut for the children of the uber rich.
Reminder that under current tax law all inheritance up to 5.5 million is already completely untaxed.
I just don't get how people can defend this?
Why do people try to give handouts to people who were literally handed everything?
If your living parents give you a gift it starts being taxed at $28,000.

>>133566484
Because their ancestors made the right moves. Whatever money I make I eventually want to go to my children. Part of the reason I work so hard is for them. It is pure thievery to take away someone's inheretance

>>133570895
Everyone is able to achieve wealth in Anglosphere nations.

While some markets are less accessible than others, you can always buy shares, or start your own business.

I agree with your point on third world immigration.

There is always opportunity. Do what I do. Work a wage, spend and save responsibly. Save enough to open a small business and expand from there.

>>133577656
this
/thread

>>133566484

>fair

>>133577561
28k too little. Going out to dinner with my extended family can cost that. I agree with taxing inheritance, it should start of 25-30 million.

>>133577544
What in the fuck are you talking about you autist? Did you even read what I was replying to?

>>133577561
It would be double taxed then... Once when they inherit it, and any time they take it out of the markets as capital gains. Its like if you had to pay taxes when you took money out of the bank.

>>133566648
Exactly. Funny how the commie simpleton OP doesn't want to explain why parents shouldn't have the right to leave their own children money when they die.

>>133577777
W A S T E D

>>133577656
This. Father worked. Paid taxes already. If he lived forever guv doesn't touch his money.

>>133566583
>We can make it more fair

By stealing money which isn't yours.

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>>133566484

YEAH GERMANY WHY IS THIS BECAUSE LIFE IS SO FAIR IN ALL REGARDS SINCE WE'RE ALL BORN WITH FOOT LONG DICKS AND MODEL-LIKE BEAUTY, RIGHT?!?!?

>>133577351
You need to stop posting niggers, nigger.

>>133577544
And I don't even have to work. My family is very wealthy. I'm only working for a friend this summer out of boredrom.

>>133566484
anon gibs me 100 dollars

>>133566484
So they didn't "earn" it, that means you should be allowed to steal it? Go fuck yourself kike

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>>133577216
DON'T YOU DARE SINGLE ME OUT AS RAT KIN. IT IS PERFECTLY DIGNIFIED.
I WILL HAVE YOU KNOW, ANCIENT CHINESE TRADITION HOLD THE RAT IN HIGHEST HONOR...
Except when they... you know.. eat them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ksr0AqieEw


I will take back everything i said if you promise me the next time you make sweet love to your waifu. right as you climax you let out a big EEEEEEEEEEEKKKKKKKK. and then make tiny little rat nibbles on her neck. in honor of your people.

>>133570151

Every poor person thinks wealth is merely a product of luck, like playing the lottery. Because that's all poor people do.

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>>133578017
kek alright sorry man I'll stop right now since some edgy autist on /pol/ with a nazi flag told me too :^)

>>133570900
>It's funny. Business men are pretty much lemonade stand owners playing simulation games. Whats it like to sit on your ass?

Poor AND stupid. You'll never know what it's like. If you did you wouldn't believe all the ignorant shit you just said.

>>133577561
Oh no, how horrid, you won't be able to tax the same income thrice! And people would have more reason to leave something behind for their children. How jealous that would make you, and the rest of your fatherless leeches. We must put an end to this! Inheritance! Working and saving to provide your children and grandchildren with a better future! It makes me sick.

>>133566484
It's fair because the rightful owner of that money willed for it to be passed down. The money isn't yours, you didn't work for it, therefore you have no business deciding what happens with the money.

>>133576723
Communists losing to corruption, the free market and their own inability to compete or foster any form of creativity or inspiration.

>>133578125
I'm sorry that you're so focused on this. Was there no real counter argument here?

>>133566484
Someone earned that money. Why cant I work so my kids wont have to?

>>133566484
The funny thing is that today the poor people are the fat ones and the rich people are skinny.

Now they have to remake all the propaganda posters, and a table full of skinny people must be held up by a group of fatsos.

>>133578560
None that you could see anymore, you have already given up inside. dumb fuck.

>>133576723
it's really more like r/K theory, with the dumb rodents just barely managing to overwhelm the more intelligent animals. And then most of the rodents die off afterwards anyways.

>>133566583
>Germany
THAT'S A GOOD BOY. WHO'S A GOOD BOY?! YOU THAT'S WHO.
SIT
ROLL OVER
STAY
GOOOOOOD BOY.

>>133578800
Only two things would make me give up inside, my girlfriend dying, or finding out I'm infertile.

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>>133576723
>be commie
>visit basic free market enterprise
>burst into treats

>>133578591
>"earned"
You've been so cucked by capitalist ideologies you've become something less than a human

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>>133577481
>What is the holocaust, what is the US dropped two nukes on Japan, what is nanking, what is the british in india
Those weren't real capitalism

>>133578540
Corrupt were sent to the gulags. I guess the USSR putting a man in space required 0 creativity. Dam really made me think

>>133578976
I remember hearing that story. He visited some store in Houston right ?

>>133578591
>Someone earned that money.
How do you prove it wasn't obtained through fraud or theft ?

>>133578540
Also in capitalism, artists and movie makers make art for product. They have to make capeshit and explosion movies. Artists not under the threat of wage slavery and profit driven art are free to produce aesthetic pieces of art.

>>133579060
>Implying capitalism wasn't responsible for inventing the technology to help those people to begin with. It takes large amounts of sitting wealth to fund the research necessary to solve large problems. The USSR wouldn't have fucked with space if they weren't trying not to be outpaced by the USA, but they ran out of money and collapsed, all WHILE people starved to death. Capitalism may be the indirect cause of people who are poor suffering, but at least it's never executed the Ukrainian farmers who fed its country.

>>133566583
>Germany

Go cuck yourself. No one cares about your opinion, you fucking sand nigger cocksucker.

>>133579293
While communists just had to ban any movies with cars in them.

>>133579293
HAVE to make. No, they just WANT to make them, because they are greedy, just like everyone else. Fuck, Tommy Wiseau made a shit movie that can be described as nothing BUT a work of art, and he did fine. They don't HAVE to do anything.

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>>133579466
wew you /pol/ autists get triggered easily don't you?

>>133579293

You're free to make whatever art you want now. Except no one may be willing to trade you that art for other goods and services. So you might have to serve other people as they serve you (capitalism). Isn't that what you want? People all working for eachother?

Under communism you're free to make whatever art the state either allows or compels, and you're free to trade that with other people the state allows or compels, at a price the state allows or compels.

You stupid hipster neo-communists should actually read some history. Or just stop being selfish losers who want the government to steal for you.

Fucking losers.

>>133566525
fpbp

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>>133580397
This nigga talking about communism like he even understands even the most basic theory behind it

>>133580655
Its got nothing to do with the theory, but the practice. In theory, its fantastic, unfortunately, us dumb humans who want more than we can have in life fuck it up every time. He wasn't disagreeing on theory, moron.

>>133580655

I'll stick to history, you commie faggots can stick to theory.

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>>133577561

>tfw going to inherit approximately $5 million
>tfw it will be untaxed
>tfw it will trigger the fuck out of liberal scum
>tfw never have to wagecuck again after I get my $5 million

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>>133566583
God damnit Germany how are you so smart that you engineer good machines and cars and shit but then say such bumblefucking stupid shit like this

>>133577561
>Why do people try to give handouts to people who were literally handed everything?
A tax cut is not a handout. It's just people keeping more of their own money. The fact that you think a tax cut is a handout proves that you think the government owns all money in the first place. You are wrong. Money belongs to those who receive it with consent, not those who take it by force. Tax is theft.

>>133579425
Capitalism is an economic theory. Scientists in capitalist countries are mostly funded by the government. The scientists ask for grants from the government and the government gives them out assuming it's worthy. Population growth in the USSR was positive. By simple mathematics, it would mean there was food to feed people. A nation is a certain industrial capacity. The USSR decided to devote most of it's industry to create even more industry. Stalin could have decided in the agrarian country that they could have slowly industrialized while focusing on consumer goods but that didn't happen. The rapid industrialization from socialism allowed the USSR to industrialize quickly.

>>133579500
Communism is an economic theory, not a "ban movies with car" theory

>>133581006
History says the USSR industrialized rapidly allowing themselves to fend off the nazis. History says capitalism collapses every 10 years without government intervention and war. Yes, I'll stick to theory.

>>133582148
>History says capitalism collapses every 10 years without government intervention and war.
Where does it say this?

>>133582303
Great depression in the 30s. People unable to find work. People unable to fed themselves. People jumping from skyscrapers. Nothing could fix the slump except WW2. After that a recession hits about every 10 years or so. The government has to intervene. In 2008 Obama tried to pass the stimulus bill to try to get out of the recession. The US is so in debt from trying to keep the system afloat it's not going to last.

>>133582303
It says it in the Bait encyclopedia. Written by (you)

>>133582148
>Scientists in capitalist countries are mostly funded by the government.
I'm sorry what? They might be given incentives, but not funded. I believe the majority of research work is privately funded. At least, the majority that matters. The upteenth study on what squirrels do are government funded.

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>>133581006
Yeah and capitalism has worked out beautifully so far, right?

>>133582580
Recession != collapse you dumb commie cuck.

>>133582793
I mean the hearts of capitalism rule the world right?

>>133582929
Without government involvement it would collapse. Capitalism is not built to last.

>>133566648
Inheritance is legitimate. Usury is not, because it requires rent serfs to artificially keep alive the meme of infinite growth. This German anon >>133566583 is right--we need to ban usury.

>>133582981
1. Takes a lot less drastic measures to stop a capitalist collapse than a communist one.
2. I'll take strife with freedom over sustenance and slavery any day.

>>133582580
How can you possibly compare the great depression to all the famines caused by commies? So few people died from starvation during the great depression it is impossible to determine how many people died as a result of it. Meanwhile in commie shitholes, people die by the millions.

>>133582981
>Without government involvement it would collapse.

Without a government, the entire society would collapse. So i guess I don't doubt you there.

We just have to make sure we have a government around to keep society stable.

>>133577561
trusts aren't taxed. if you want to gift people large money you set up a trust and give them an annuity of like 100k a year.
they have to pay taxes on it though.

>>133582966
Yeah for the last century or so. That doesn't mean this whole shit show isn't gonna collapse as quickly as it started. I don't understand the point your trying to make.

>>133583493
I'm as open to alternatives as anyone else, but pointing to socialism/communism/fascism, which all have lost out to capitalism is not the way to go. I'm very open, but pointing to any of those and saying "Its better that way" is just dumb.

humans aren't evolved enough to manifest communism, it's too idealistic.

humans are greedy savages that's why every civilization turns to capitalism eventually.

anyone that claims communism/socialism will solve this, is either a massive retard or just another greedy savage

>>133583752
But there's plenty of examples of "socialist" countries who have relatively very healthy and functional societies who get on with their collective lives fine and don't destroy and exploit the entire planet in the name of muh bottom line profit business memes.

>>133566484
Can you explain how it's unjust? That particular example just means someone got millions of dollars and uses it to not work. That's their life. Does it affect me when a random individual puts money in an account and does nothing else with their life?

>>133566484
Because their white.

>>133566484
If you work hard, your children could have the same fate?
My own parents were dirt poor, now they're upper middle class. No political clout, but otherwise living the dream.

>>133584271
Any modern socialist society that is successful can only exist that way because of the US playing big brother to the world. I'm excited to see trump pull us out of protecting Europe. When they pay for their own protection we'll see how much they want to allow people to be lazy. Capitalism isn't preferable, its necessary. If you aren't a capitalist country, or protected by one, then prepare to be overrun by one in 20 years.

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>>133584426
Thank god we got that golden opinion of the autistic nazi flag shitposter to close out thread. I was so lost without it

>>133579060
considering that there are a few more billion people on the planet I think those numbers are a little miss leading.

I get your point however

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>>133584577
Exactly because capitalists CAN'T stand people who don't play by their rules. It's either wage slavery or we destroy you. Cuba had to deal with FIFTY YEARS of sanctions.

>>133570151
Wealth isn't a zero sum game Muhammad, but then again you're a shitskin on German gibs so I'm not surprised

more people ought to die from starvation/no water

like why the fuck are you still in a place with no farming and no water
fucking retards

>>133584976
Just go to a communist country and jack off there! Oh wait...

Fair is allowing you to live and labor for money.
You want the work camps? You can have the work camps.

>>133580283
>implying some 13 yo nobody is a wanted member of pol
>also implying you're even wanted

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>>133584994
>Looks like no one bought our product er I mean food better throw it away in the trash lol

>>133584577
>>133584577
Bruh you can't actually believe this is true. Plenty of European countries have been successful independent of any "big brother" help from the US.

>>133584976
Again, to my point, humans have greedy base desires, and capitalism utilizes this for everyone's benefit. In communist countries, they devolve to either a dictatorship or oligarchy. Cuba is a great example. Unless the "ruler" lives the same way as his subjects, its not socialism, is just a monarchy under the guise of helping the working class.

>>133584976
>Exactly because capitalists CAN'T stand people who don't play by their rules.

Success defeats failure every time.

>>133585192
You really wanna eat those hot dog buns, huh?
Well why are you standing there taking pictures!? Dig in!

>>133584018

actually it can work, there are tribes in Africa that were true communists with no leader and shared everything. it just can't work beyond the tribal scale.

>>133585280
You have a very juvenile world view. Read a book.

>>133585253
Then why is Russia such a big scare?

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>>133566484
> work your ass off to give your child the 10,000,000
> your neighbor is an alcoholic with no job, his wife is a street hooker
> your children will be equally poor by the time they're 18
Commies need to be gassed.

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>>133585338
>Digging thrrough garbage for food is illegal proles hehehe you have to buy it instead hehehe

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>>133585375
yeah maybe.
i think a lot of our problems are inherent of just having bigass societies.
globalism is just the catalyst, and capitalism is another tool

>>133574858
Stop being a nigger and get off gibs faggot, then maybe you'll realize why people are so interested in keeping the money they earned

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>>133585658
:^)

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>>133585486
Are you serious? The entire Cold War has just been an economy stimulus plan agreed upon by both sides. l thought /pol/ was aware of this bullshit.

>>133585455
I would actually describe my world view as fundamental. Closer to the works of Adam Smith, believing in the very fundamental nature of humans.

Capitalism without inheritance might be an amusing compromise between "muh equal opportunity" that both commies and capitalists desire.

Unless the wealthy father dies while he has children under the age of 18, who's children would be cared for by an escro made up of leftover funds or liquidated estates until they come of age.

In reality, I'm sure this is all still retarded.

>>133572516
Genes are nepotism.

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>>133572891
Lol those are $1s

>>133585862
Seems like half our country and most of Europe seems to care. Doesn't matter if we do, politics of scale my friend.

>>133566583
fuck you stinky commie

Why does it matter if you get your inheritance or not?
As you always say, anyone can become a millionaire with hard work alone.

>>133585862

Yet yurofags shit themselves when Trump threatened to cut NATO funding if yuros don't contribute what they are supposed to and their first call is to Daddy America when Russia starts eyeing its old puppet states in Eastern Europe

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>>133577777
FUCKING

WASTED

REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>133585879
There's nothing "fundamental" about human nature. Human nature is indicative of its environment. Hundreds of years of philosophy and psychological study has proven this.

>>133566484
stop stealing carlsberg beer like you did in hamburg. It's fucking cheap.

>>133586000
The point of amassing wealth and estate is to pass it on to your children.
Thats why white men bother doing it.
The attack on inheritance isn't an attack for "equality" its just another attack on white men and their family unit.

Ultimately commies just want the Gubment to have full power over everyone's lives. And traditional family units make that tough, since many will prefer family over government if given the option. Especially bad if those families are wealthy and can influence society.
However if your only choice is government, then the communist system can be installed.

Don't fall for their pseudo-ideological bullshit. The motives are much more devious than the lies they tell to you.
Build your estate and give it to your sons, thats what a white man should do.

>>133566484
Because someone worked hard to get it in the first place. If you're born into poverty then blame your parents for having you in a world where you'll not be financially secure.

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>>133585804
The floor is communism

>>133586078
Yeah they "seem to care" if you base your reality on Fox News and CNN.

>>133586296
Someone's been drinking the Marxist koolaid.

>>133586475
Or literally everyone in the states bordering the Ukraine.

>>133585804
nice

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>>133585682
>10 million dollars can be achieved from legitimate work
What did he mean by this?

>>133572891
Now that's what I call edgy

>>133566484
Life isn't fair dickface.

>>133586659
Not sure what you mean by this.
>>133586571
And no I haven't even gone to uni, that just supports my own experience with humans

>>133586713
It's "just" ten million, why not?
A more or less successful legal business can give you that much. Bill Gates had made much more, before Windows became spyware.

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>>133586713
>Anybody who owns a house is rich.
>Anybody trying to sell their house, is considered rich.
Must be nice living in California and seeing mansion after mansion for sale and thinking to yourself everybody owns a mansion.

You want that homeless bum who snorted away his home and life to have a new home? That abandoned home, the one for sale to help a family of 3 who bought a cheaper home or in a better area?

Buy the fucker and give it to him or shut up.

>In the town where Micheal Brown was shot.
>Zillow.
>Find a home there for sale for $500
Wasnt even a joke, we had a thread on here about it.
>Same area, home for sale.
>$1000
And
>Another
>$5000
Some of these cocksuckers make that in a DAY!

>>133586992
> it doesn't matter than you came first to the finish line first, I was ahead of you most of the time, remember?

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>>133575785
Wow, pressure wash, the great unwashed, right off the concrete.

>>133586926
>Not sure what you mean by this.
Russia made that nice move a few years ago to seize the land in the Ukraine for food production so their people wouldn't starve, and people in that part of the world are worried.
>Own experience
I'll assume you've traveled much of the world then. Its remarkable how many gestures are shared among different cultures that can be dated to pre-interaction with other cultures across oceans. People aren't blank slates, they have genetic programming, go figure.

>>133586992
Stop hiding behind that flag faggot

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>>133586784
We can make it more fair with a few simply tricks

>>133586978
No one from the working class can achieve 10 million without capitalist exploitation unless you win the lottery or inherit it from a rich distance uncle which is still indirect

>>133587099
>We decide where the finish line is > : (

>>133566484

>Work really hard and create value
>Consume less than I create, so I save up 10 million dollars.
>All I want to do with that money is bequeath it to my son.
>He decides to invest it, giving resources to those who need it in order to build factories and shit, and employ workers, and develop new markets, and manufacture new products
>He gets paid the market rate for that investment
>He decides to consume more than he produces, and declines to work since he has plenty of resources.

>Some kraut cunt on the internet thinks there's something unfair about any of this.

>>133566484
Nature gave my parents a chance and they failed. It is fair. And if you don't work at it, you can lose 10,000,000 in a single day.

>>133566583
Theft is not more fair.

>>133587237
I'm not disagreeing with you in that humans are inherently violent animals but surrending to cut throat economics because of that spooky belief seems counter evolutionary.

>>133586713
I'm triggered by this picture.
You should have the right to have an empty house if you can afford it.
Also I used to be homeless, most of them are homeless by choice or because they're crazy. Giving them a house will do nothing to fix either problem.

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>>133587424
>Capitalists creating wealth
>Not extracting profit from the workers who create that wealth

>>133566484
birthright

>>133579067
yep, nigga was being taken to a store where they prepared it so it didn't have as much options but he saw that store first and wanted to see it if the burgers were playing fair game and didn't have anything arranged. but much to his surprise that store was 50 times more filled and diverse than a regular commie one

>>133587721
I think you used poor wording, counter evolutionary. Its actually purely evolutionary, because capitalism utilizes that nature to its fullest, the very definition of evolutionary. In order to move away from capitalism, humanity would have to transcend their bodies.

>>133566484
>have to work 35 hours a week in shifts to earn 1300€ a month after taxes (2600 before)
>litterally get half of my pay stolen by the state every month
>have to deal with a 20% VAT on every manufactured product
>everything is expensive as fuck, housing cost is through the roof, even in the shittiest places, inflation keeps getting worse every year
>a baguette of bread used to cost 1 franc or less back before we switched to the euro, now it's 1€ or more (1€ = 6,5 francs)
>politicians and the media keep repeating inflation is a myth, that the euro actually protects us from inflation, that products aren't more expensive that they were decades ago
>my family has been French for dozens of generations, possibly more

Meanwhile :

>any shitskin can come to France and claim citizenship instantly if they are Algerian, from any former French colony, any country that is part of the Francosphere or went to a French speaking school
>they can immediately vote and get free shit from the state
>a shitskin and his whore popping out a few kids can earn more than 3000€ a month, no taxes, just by sitting on their asses and waiting for that sweet money to rain from the sky
>they get free education, free healthcare, free everything, without needing to have worked a single day in their lives
>even illegals can come here and get access to all of that shit
>they'll get legalized really fast anyway


HOW IS THIS FAIR?

>>133566484
What does fair have to do with anything in real life?

>>133587724
I'd be inclined to disagree with both. True capitalists extract from the workers, multiply its value with technological advancement through investment, and give back some of the value to the worker, so that the worker's future and children can live an even nicer life. Capitalism is about leveraging labor to its fullest, and compensating accordingly.

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>>133587724
>complaining about capitalists stealing "your" wealth
>have the right and opportunity to make a worker-owned company yet don't
People like you frequently complain about how capitalists steal wealth, but if their jobs are so simple and undeserving of their wealthy, why not create a worker-owned company with like-minded socialists/communists?

Is it because you're actually fearful and stupid? Is it because you know it'd be less efficient and profitable? Is it because you're content to, as you say, live in wage slavery while someone "steals" your wealth rather than better your station and that of your compatriots?

All those people who lived through communism and warn of it's horrors are just paid off by the man. As an 18 year old from a rich country who has never been anywhere near communism, I know better than people who have nightmares about living under it.

>>133578044
Hey nigger, it seems that every "socialist" on /pol/ claims to be from a wealthy family. Indeed, irl experience also proves that many self proclaimed socialists are from more well-off families. There is a bizarre sort of arrogance to their style of posting and speaking that can oftentimes be off-putting, making it seem as though only the comfort and boredom of wealth could facilitate such an ideology. I believe it was /pol/'s favorite socialist Adolf Hitler who said that the first principle of civilization is self sacrifice. Well, that self sacrifice can only exist in an environment where everybody feels connected to one another, through race, religion, nation, ideals, etc. etc. To effectively inspire a desire to sacrifice for one's neighbor, whether rich or poor, there must be a very high level of social cohesion. In America, there is absolutely fuck all for social cohesion, it's fucking mouse utopia in here. Every man for himself. "Life isn't fair, deal with it" is the motto of the day. America is a giant MK-ULTRA testing chamber full of all manner of human scum. Socialism can't work here. The only thing that could happen is that the welfare state will expand until everyone is either super rich or a half lobotomized ward of the state. The only thing we can do right now is look out for our own interests, and the interests of the people who care about us.

>>133566484
it's not like you can expand it and be charitable yourself...

>>133586713
Actually, real estate investors are scared to death of squatters. And under communism, the even bums wouldn't even be free roam.

>>133588376
What are you, the leftist Alex Jones?

>>133566484
Are you a child or a commie? Whoever told you that life was fair did you a terrible disservice.

>>133587724
>Believing that both labor and investment capital are not freely traded resources, each entered into voluntarily and each with market-defined remuneration.

If the capitalists are all so elite go buy a fucking share or two. You can do it with literally pocket change. Or go build a factory. Except you'll need resources, and you'll need someone to give you those resources, and you'll need to give them some kind of reason to give you those resources and not some other proposal... Fuck. It's almost like capitalism is the natural state of human financial interactions or something.

>>133566484
>inherit 10,000,000
That's where you're wrong. Inheritance tax is a thing now.

>>133588544
You capitalist scum want a fight!? You better believe you got one! You may have the police and the military as well as the NRA but we have college students, college dropouts, black people, and camel jockeys.
The right is so fallen, so evil....they think just because communism has never worked that it can't work. Now we're state-controlled so there's no need to buy a water filter, have one for free comrade.

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>>133588376
>All those people who lived through communism and warn of it's horrors are just paid off by the man
Literal bullshit here folks.

>>133588255
Workers would be better off without a rich parasite skimming the profits off their labor. Read Marxist theory for a better understanding. As wealth inequality increases, the working class has less purchasing power because wealth is concentrated in the hands of the few.

>>133588320
You need capital to start a business. Most capitalists were born into wealth. Rags to riches is a bullshit fantasy just as ridiculous as the american dream. It's rare and for that reason almost as ridiculous as winning the lottery.

>Small loan of on million dollars

And yes as capitalism ages, monopolies form and it becomes harder and harder to start a business to compete with these established industries of scale and experience. Small businesses made by fools thinking they had a chance are being run out of town by Walmart and McDonalds.

>>133588376
Most people who lived under the former USSR want it back.

>>133588721
>one man personally murdered millions of people
muh millions! It's physically impossible for one man to kill millions of people retard. Even if he killed one every 10 seconds every day for a year that's only 3 million people!

>>133588059
You should apply for welfare.

>>133566484
Someone worked hard to get you that money. They fought the good fight to take care of their family. It's fair, but makes soft men.

>>133566484
>How is this fair?
somebody already worked hard for that 10mil
It's their money and if they want to use it so their bloodline doesn't have to lift a single finger ever again so be it

>implying if you worked and acquired a vast amount of wealth your opinion wouldn't be the same

>>133577501
Exactly! They fancy them selves as intellects. They go to college, to finish high school. Then spend the rest of their lives trying to figure out how to put their debt on everyone else.

Its like they are baby Jews. Jews training henchmen = Oliver Twist = infested colleges = Communism = Thieves guild.

>>133579060
Your picture says "In the capitalist world 8 million die from lack of clean water." However, that statistic is not of the capitalist world. The CDC says that world wide 8 million die from lack of clean water. Most of these deaths are from non industrialized countries, not capitalist. In response to the Holocaust, the nazi party was socialist (it is in the full name). As for the atom bombs, that was war. It was the only way to make Japan surrender without having d-day 2 electric Boogaloo.

>>133588841
Yes, the rich stupid laborers would be better off for about 20 years. Too bad the intelligent folks have no incentive to actually do the hard work to make life better. You yourself quoted cuba as an example of socialism. Its amazing how healthy and NOT starved their people are, Marxism sure is great. Marxist theory makes false assumptions about human nature, and fails as a result. Marx himself said that human nature was the biggest obstacle to Marxism's application.

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>>133566484

In France with the monstrous gibs you can easily live and never have to work a single day

Millions do that here, an millions are coming

On the other side thoses who works are taxed like slaves.

No thanks mom and dad you instill work values in my mind and now I'm fucked.

>>133590006

My geographic

>>133590090

Work is rewarding in itself

>>133566484
>get born with brain cancer
>live 2 weeks
>die
How is this fair?

>>133590565

>gf gets raped by a pack of Mexicans

Since life isn't fair shouldn't they get off scot free?

That is a lot of money here

I could feeding my family and my friends family too

>>133590898
Hi Kim, love your hair.

>>133579060
How is the US dropping a nuclear bomb, a military action during war, indicative of capitalism? Forced collectivization is a domestic policy during peacetime imposed on your own citizens. Is there a greater false equivalence than that example?

>>133582148
>Capitalism is an economic theory
So how can "dropping bombs during WW2" be a result of economic theory? Any nation, even the USSR, could have used nukes. Doesn't mean it speaks to their Marxist policies

>>133579060
People are free to boil water, grow food, and clean them selves up.

No, gulags were filled by quotas, for slave labor. The laws were so implicit, anyone could be arrested for anything. "Anti-Soviet Agitation" You piss me off go to prison! "social dangerous element" You stopped clapping, go to prison. and "suspicion of having counter-revolutionary activity." I had a dream that you had magic powers, and someone tricked you into helping the last guy I threw in prison get a trial, go to prison!

The German scientists they captured put a man in space. And the German scientists USA captured built our rockets too.

>>133566484
this bs argument again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=km9OCw3f5w4
/thread

>>133566484
Still objectively more moral than any form of Socialism, since by no philosophically legitimate measurement of the word does it require any sort of theft.

>>133582793
>Yeah and capitalism has worked out beautifully so far, right?

Capitalism produced the food you ate tonight, the clothes you're wearing and the computer you're shitposting on. Every modern form of consumption runs on capitalism. You would have to be an imbecile not to realize it.

>>133584271

Most of these socialist countries import just as much shit from the 3rd world as the US does. They just have much smaller populations. Many of our 50 states could dwarf your european countries.

If you're gonna compare the US and Europe, compare the entire EU and US. Don't cherry pick tiny, homogenous, nordic clay.

>>133566583
But of course, some animals are more equal than others

>>133584976
>Cuba had to deal with FIFTY YEARS of sanctions.

So what? Are you really going to bitch that the evil capitalist pig left you poor because you couldn't trade with them? Is your worker's paradise not self sufficient?

>WE WUZ KANGS economics on display

>>133570151
t. retarded manual laboring shitskin

>be born female
>10/10 stunning beauty
>never have to hold a job or be responsible for a ton of shit
>can leave her man and take half of what's his
>can grind and ditch at least 10 other men before he beauty starts fading

w-why is this allowed!!

>>133591688
witholding the means of production from the public via state violence is theft

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>>133578976

Never understood why having 50 brands of yoghurt is such a big deal. Sure it must feels amazing seeing so many products for the first time, but on the second day you just take random stuff because it's all the same shit.

Also here in Czech Republic, the general product quality has gone drastically down after revolution. Back during socialist era when you were following the commie five-year plan you didn't give a fuck about profits, all you cared about was quantity and quality for inspection. Nobody gave a fuck if you figured a way to save on production by blending rats into sausages because you were given fixed profits anyway.

When capitalism arrived and the factories were privatized, people were suddenly forced to figure ways how to maximize the profits so suddenly you realize, why waste the bones from the cow when it doesn't change the taste of the ham ((that much)) and you make 20% extra product with same cost?

One of the supermarket chains here recently started selling 'retro' ham as the highest quality stuff, obviously triggers were ensured.

People often say that communism always failed, but the truth is that here in Czech Republic, many people were much happier during communist era than they're now during capitalism. Sure we didn't have 100 brands of chocolate but nobody had to worry about their homes, jobs etc. People valued their things more, they learned to fix their stuff instead of buying a new ones. btw. all electronics lasted longer back then for reasons mentioned above - planned obsolence wasn't an issue. And it wasn't just because the stuff was less complex - even simple things as a mixer often outlived multiple generations of the new ((technologically advanced)) capitalist mixers.

>>133586053
if those who are successful have superior genes then why are they afraid of letting their children start on equal footing? the cream would rise, no?

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>>133586713
Fuck this makes me sad

I'm aware that some bums are homeless by choice and are good for nothing alcoholic leeches, but there are some that are genuinely unable to work and have nobody in the world to support them or show them affection/love them

>>133578976
mmm can't wait to pick from 50 different brands of Food Product TM that was probably made by underpaid mexicans somewhere hundreds of miles from where i live and stuffed with preservatives so it can make it here

>>133591865

>Implying food and clothes aren't produced in socialist regimes

People saying "you wouldn't have computorz if it wasn't for capitalism" is like saying we wouldn't have lightbulbs in 2017 if it wasn't for Thomas Edison (he didn't invent it btw., there were like 20 people before him working on it already, he just finished it up for mass production) or that our cars would run on squares if that one guy didn't come up with wheel 5k years ago.

Obviously the computers wouldn't be as advanced as they're now, but it's not like we would avoid it by having socialism instead.

>>133566484
>How is this fair?

Because his ancestors put the work into it.

>>133585192
They spent the money to make that food. If no one bought it they have every right to toss it into the trash. I personally think it's a waste of food but who am I to tell someone else what to do with their property? If I wanted some I could have purchased.

>>133566484
usury is of the devil

>>133566484
Inheritance is fair because:
- The money was generated through hard work initially, and the one who earned it should be able to give it to whom he wants
- If he couldn't he would be disincentivised from creating wealth

The 5% ROI is fair because:
- He is taking a risk
- It either provides direct financing for the real economy or helps allocate resources through the price discovery mechanism which reduces inefficiencies and helps firms get more financing (since less uncertainty)

>>133566484
>pay income tax when you earn the money you work for
>pay equity tax when you decide not to spend your money on frivolous bullshit
>have your money taxed a third fucking time when you die
How is this fair? Part of the reason I work is because I want to provide for my children.

>>133566484
It's not fair, but who on earth told you anything was meant to be?

>>133584976
Isn't communism supposed to be an autarky?

Do you want Cuba communists to support Capitalism by trading with Capitalist economies?

You want Cuban workers to support the exploitation and surplus theft of other workers?

Because those sanctions you use as excuse are simple refusal to trade with people who stole American resources in Cuba and didn't compensate, and it's only one country that is blockading Cuba, the rest of the world doesn't.

am i able to received any of this money for rice for my family

>>133566484
>Tfw spent 7 months saving £1000 in my minimum wage part time job
>want to move out but can't because that isn't even 2 months rent after the deposit
>Trying to get a better job but not getting a nibble

>>133570895
When has there been a fair system besides capitalism?

Monarchy? King has more than the rest of the peasants.
Communism? Ruler has more than the rest of the peasants. If I get too much, someone will kill me.
Socialism? Everyone works for each other. The ruler has more than the rest of the peasants.
Capitalism? If I have a good idea, service or producy, I can make money off of it. The government protects my right to do so.

Think before you open your stupid mouth.

>>133566484
>be a nice person all my life
>work hard as a nurse. Much loved by patients and coworkers
>ruin my back with one bad lift because the patient was about to fall

boo hoo, how is this fair?
It's almost as if the universe is just random events and you're not entitled to shit.

>>133566484
>Parents, or grandparent or whatever builds a successful business
>They decide what to do with their money that they earned
>give to son
>"not fair"
>Give to random bunch of strangers they never met, who never studied anything or took any big risks
>"totally fair"

Also
>>133570151
>Studying economics for years (really boring shit) and taking huge risks by investing in unstable business
>profit
Yeah just luck I guess

Equality of outcome is horseshit, it gurantees nobody gets what they deserve
>People who work hard get less then what they deserve
>people who work less get more than what they deserve
Atleast everyone is poor now, eh?

>>133586061


But dat ass a ten

>>133581338
When everyone has their money taxed and lost, then a tax cut is a hand out. Every money not spent is money earned.
If all of us pay bills and one person doesnt, he might as well be given hand outs.

>>133566484
1. Life is not fair for no one. The soner you will get this the sooner you can jump to point 2. (If you ever spend more than 2 weeks in a hospital you gonna recognize this.

2. Use every single one of the perks given to you and do not hold back because it would be unfair to others because 1.

3. Wanting to instaure more fairness in a ceratin domaine will only result in more unfairness in another domaine, I called it the fairness entropy.

>>133598179
The whole point of a government is that it's supposed to make it fair.

>>133566484
Why should anything be "fair"? Don't hate the playa, hate the game G.

>>133570151
most people dont get rich with there own money in the stock market. they get rich making commission on billion dollar hedge funds full of normal peoples pensions and 401k. so why is that illegitimate. also if you think you can just get lucky in investment especially day trading youve never traded. give it a try http://www.investopedia.com/simulator/portfolio/nogamestotradein.aspx send me a link to your account when you get lucky and make 10,000,000. ill be waiting

>>133588376
> As an 18 year old from a rich country who has never been anywhere near communism
You just shot yourself in the foot. you are just another High School kid who googled "Marxism" and thinks he can save the world.

You can't even fix your broken computer, what the fuck makes you think you have the competence to even consider fixing an infinately more complex structure such as the society?

Keep studying, don't just read Marx and call it a day. Read from the opposing side, understand the opposing side, don't act like you've received divine revelation.

>>133599113
If the government could make everything fair (they cant), they would have to control everything first, particularly everyone's finances. If they controlled everyone's finances they would have the power of life and death over everyone in the society. This is called slavery. Euphemistically it is called communism.

>>133599708
American education at work, huh.

>>133599113
And if you are being serious, you are a complete faggot and should move to Venezuela.

>>133599785
This is common sense, and also proven throughout history, something you obviously have no knowledge of. There was a time in this country where we would take communists like you and beat them within an inch of their lives in the streets. This was a better country then. Thankfully you disgusting creatures are on the run once again. It will only get worse for you.

>>133577852
Triple. The parents had to be taxed as income tax originally. Government fucking people over hard on that one.

>>133599998
Even kek knows what you deserve for your abhorrent post.

>>133576742
The only animalian thing here is your argument.

>>133597328
Fucking study you idiot. If it's too late, then that's your own fault!