>What other civilisation invented soring scyscrapers? >What

Well said, canadian rape baby.

we have grinded and fought for our legacy and now a bunch of dumb liberals are going to end us and enslave us, fucking jews.

>>133492383
>/pol/ these days

>>133492383
But thanks for the liberation ;^)

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>>133492517
I still cant understand how the west has decided to just give up and die despite mastering all that life has thrown at us. 10 years ago everyone was excited that we were planning to conquer Mars and now there are cities with occupied territory with in the borders and they will never call it war.

What the hell happened?
I want my future back.

>>133492383
Hey don't shit on our nord bros, theyre a bit arrogant but good buddies none the less.

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>>133492284
>YFW poo in the loo beat us to it

:''o

>>133493045
We met our own nature: Wealth made us decadent, succes made us indifferent, post-christianity made us universalists

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>>133493257
>a box of natural figures
compare to this

>>133493339
I agree, but I think we lost ourselves in ourselves.
Empathy served us well for the last 10,000 years as we domesticated animals and worked the land but now with nothing to fight the urge to nurture and understand has replaced the urge to explore and conquer nature. We somehow deiced that fixing humanity can be found here on earth instead of our destiny of spreading to the stars. Now we daily risk destroying ourselves due to that what which let us conquer nature.

>>133493841
>Built between 1000 - 700 years later

But yeah nice building though and man thats big!

Skyscrapers, rocket ships, mountain climbing are all accomplished through socialist funds and ideals. If you don't care for and help your neighbors, you will need to protect yourselves from them. Give poor people food so they don't overturn the government. Give homeless homes so they don't steal things from yours. Love all colors and creeds so they don't disrupt your city in protest. Good luck building a skyscraper if you have riots.

>>133494098
It's indeed like the left wants to reinvent all humans as something they are not: Equal, altruistic, ambition-less, non tribal etc.
But that in itself is tipically western. No mass immigration into Japan, China, Israel, saudi arabia or any other succesful non/semi western country

>>133495091
>what is law and order
>what is equality before the law
>what is voluntary association
>what is a free market where everyone can earn their bread.

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>>133495201
I wouldn't even say its the left. Its authority and those who believe that authority has a reason to be authority.
There seems to be a stronger divide between those who want to be accepted and thus want to be accepted by everyone and those who dont care either way.
Somewhat of a forced social evolution maybe? But this view is of a very few and there are many many people.
I can extrapolate a lot of thing out to the logical end but what EU and US left is doing, short of trying to implement communism is beyond me.
It would be cheap shot to chock it all up to jewish influence and subversion but so far that is my only rational. I just cant fathom where the left thinks this would end in anything but extinction

I didn't really appreciate the culture I was born into until I visited the MET in NYC. I was in awe the entire time I was there. The sculptures, the paintings, the armor, the busts, gates, statues.

I think it's dead though. I think we need to work on bringing it back before we work on protecting it. Modern is codeword for soulless. Look at modern architecture and compare it to buildings from any time period, look at modern art and compare it to art from only 80 years ago.

The higher you climb the harder you fall, it's just that we have the opportunity to start climbing again. The boomers-millennials took the fall.

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>>133493045
>>133493339
Masculine altruism was replaced by Pathological altruism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL6w4Emwyi4

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>>133496388
Look up Leon Krier. Traditionalist architecture is already returning in the Netherlands and England.

When I read oswald spengler I started really understanding what really animates western culture

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>>133492284
>WHITES ARE MASTER RACE REEEEE
>GAS THE KIKES, THEY ARE JUST BETTER

>>133495933
I always think about if things would have turned out much different if there were no jews.
Communism/leftism in a broad sense is probably one of the strangest phenomena in history because it goes anaginst nature in sucha radical way.

>>133497150
Pls go back

>>133493257
Indians were aryan my dude they were basically ancient white people.

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>>133497402
>SAFE SPACE!!!! SAFE SPACE!!!!!!!

>>133497150
This is a thesis you retard. Not arguing for or against

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>>133497694
>so buthurt he made 2 responses
know your place,goy

>>133497642
>posts an american
That is how I imagine you desu. Americans have truly ruined this place.
Before people like you came you could have a good Oswald Spengler thread. Now 90% of people on /pol/ never touched a book.
>inb4 who is Spengler

>>133493230
This

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>>133497359
It does and it doesn't, communism and socialism are an ideal society but the implementation of this is absurd in and of it self and while I do agree that it violates a lot of basic human instincts and at scale would be impossible. I try to learn about both extremes of politics and come to a conclusion of what can be done to mediate the divide to form my political opinion.
Again, while I understand the reasoning for it, what the left is proposing is stagnation and appeasement. The rights authoritarian model can become just as corrupt and relies on a leader that can with stand power not corrupting so it is in a sense just as absurd, but the advantage here is that one decent leaders rule would outweigh a century of stagnation.

Honestly libertarian would be a great model but would only work with a high trust and motivated society that are willingly working together, and with no central figure that isnt possible.

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>>133498046
who is Spengler

>>133492284

Skyscrapers are the product of diseased minds. They are somewhere between occult phallic objects and tombstones.

>>133497829

>>133498260
>The rights authoritarian model can become just as corrupt
>Flag
;^)
There has always been a big wall between conservatism and the authoritarian right. Not so much between the hard left and soft left. their ideas kind of morph. Many of the idea's the soft left has come from people like Gramsci, Horkheimer and Kinsey.
Find me a conservative who bases himself on mein kampf.
I think we need something new in terms of a system but I don't know what...

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>>133492284
>What other civilisation conquered the earth's gravitational pull
>What other civilisation mapped the skies?

non-Western (Russia)

and Soyuz is the only relevant and trusted space cab.

>>133499214
>Russia
>Non-western
Let's see, Christian, white, indo-european language, kings of old were named after Ceasar.

They seem pretty western to me.

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>>133492284
>How have you or any one on this site contributed to *any* of that

>>133498418
>occult phallic objects
that's another way of looking at it:^)
But western culture has always been sort of satanic: We rebel against gods laws to create our own world.
Note that skyscrapers from early 1900 were quite beautiful

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>>133492284

Humanity(not just Whites) was able to do all of that before they came to Earth(which was a Joint Colonization).

[Did a thread on it: http://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/subject/knowledge%20bomb/username/anonymous5/tripcode/%21%219O2tecpDHQ6/]

Feminism is a bioweapon("Femin" Virus) designed to destroy the Family & Society.

>>133499345
Now you tell them that they are/were westerner.

>>133499214
>non-Western (Russia)
>Communism
>Christianity
>Ceasarism
disregarded

>>133493841
Hey you don't get to post that!

>>133499357
If it comes to a civil war we can.
Also I once climbed a mountain. Onley there are so few here;^)

>>133499537
Whether or not they agree, they are as western as a German.

>>133499747
I do. It's our clay. It's even a Dutch name: Handwerpen

>>133492284
I'll take the bait.

>What other civilisation invented soring scyscrapers?
Egypt was building things far larger when the europeans barely built huts.

>gothic temples advancing into the sky

Chinese and japanese temples were far more viable and served their purpose. European cathedrals are just wasteful and required tons of effort to be built.

If the chinese wanted to waste so many resources, they'd just built an entire city instead. Which they did.

>Earth's gravitational pull

It has never been proven, much less "conquered."

>Mapped the skies

How the fuck do you map the skies? You mean weather control? That's as old as agriculture.

>Mountain climbing for sport

What other civilization has watching their women getting fucked by africans as a fetish?

Western culture has nothing special. In fact, Japan achieved more in less time and without half the bullshit that Europe needed to become civilized (don't forget the million men slaughtered for your religion of peace).

t. japanese immigrant

>>133499357
>Misuse of greentext
>It's a shill

I'll bite anyway. You're thinking of the wrong kind of pride. I use this analogy all the time because you leftists seem to not know there is more than one type of pride.

We are not taking credit for the accomplishments of our ancestors any more than a kid is taking credit of his dads accomplishments on career day. The kid is proud of his dad, he looks up to his dad, he wants to some day make his dad proud of him.

That's the sort of pride we have. We look up to our ancestors, we want to live up to them, we want to make them proud of us.

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>>133499004
>I think we need something new in terms of a system but I don't know what...
I agree. But the only new systems being talked of are the 5th political theory (modern tribalism) and technocracy.
Neither of which really solve the core issues of the other systems.

>>133498418
>>133499444
I would say you are both right.

>>133496912
>When I read oswald spengler I started really understanding what really animates western culture

Can you recommend any text in particular?

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>>133499816
>Autistic screeching ensues
Fuck it let's get drunk

>>133492591
At least call it (((liberation))).

>>133499848
>i'll take the bait
>proceeds to bait

meta bait

>>133497999
Is this a real picture or just a quality shoop???

>>133499848
>Egypt was building things far larger when the europeans barely built huts.
Note that these were homes for the dead and they were square type structures not going upwards.
>Chinese and japanese
I was arguing about the the pathos behind our civilisation not whether it is better or not.
>It has never been proven
Aeroplanes, rockets and myths like Icarus
>How the fuck do you map the skies
The cult of stars and ofcourse later the study of the galaxy is most prominent in the west
>What other civilization has watching their women getting fucked by africans as a fetish
Again I am not arguing for or against.

>>133500401
Isreal granpa

>>133492284
>What other civilisation
it's spelled "civilization".
dumbass.

also...
all of them pre-rome.

>>133493257
Indians were based, but to each culture it's own.

>>133500437
Dont take the bait, man....

>>133493841
>draped in the color of prison yard lamps
terrible.

>>133500066
My point is, if you're on this site you are likely a failure who will never reach those heights.

Unless everyone here is joking about being suicidally depressed at how pathetic they are. Most probably wouldn't even care if liking European culture was mainstream.

>>133492284
>What other civilisation mapped the skies?
Islam actually. They discovered Algebra, too.
>WHAT OTHER CIVILISATION CLIMBS MOUNTAINS FOR SPORT!?
One's near mountains I'd suppose.
By the way, China invented paper, printing, compasses, gunpowder, and the gun.
The West is impressive, don't get me wrong, but it's only that way because of the industrial revolution, which only really started in Europe because of coal being there.

>>133499848
The mass immigration you are refering to is the result of the universalist western ethic, trying to reinvent humanity in a non-tribal image. It's the dark side of our culture: Striving for new ideals that deny our own existance

>>133500066
Nice explanation m8. I'll remember this next time I hear that bullshit argument.

>>133500140
Ik was in Antwerpen laatst. Mooie stad hoor, jammer van al die moderne architectuur.

>>133500905
You can only claim that's bullshit if you are actually living up to your own beliefs.

Are you?

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>>133500757
>Islam actually. They discovered Algebra, too.
former Greek Slaves living in North Africa.
They built pretty much everything any Arab claims to be theirs.

>China

was that before or after the Manchu retards invaded and killed anyone with half a brain or a smidge of individualism?

>>133500742
The 4chan userbase is above average IQ, and we're certainly overrepresented in terms of >130IQ people who will actually accomplish something one day. We're suicidally depressed because we're the vanguard of a cultural movement that hasn't reached the surface yet.

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>>133500965
>Meest multiculturele stad vant land
Gelukkig is de rand nog steeds kanker rechts gelijk de meeste van ons voorlopig..

>>133501023
every day man.

>>133500066
This, good ameripost

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>>133499214

Russia is traditionally Western, Al-Baghdadi.
Their finerst poets, composers, mathematicians and scientists - they rank high on the all time scale.

I know it's hard to grasp numbers past 72, but you should be able to pick up on this

>>133501146
VLAAMS BLOK, EIGEN VOLK EERST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZA0ELgJzSuI

>>133501118
>former Greek Slaves living in North Africa.
So you're saying Muhammad ibn Musa al-Khwarizmi is greek?
>was that before or after the Manchu retards invaded and killed anyone with half a brain or a smidge of individualism?
What does that have to do with anything?

>>133501023
Yeah actually. I'm doing the best I can for myself. I work out, I have a house with some roommates, a car, I have a job that lets me fly and travel the world (so much for travel destroys racists meme), I'm doing alright, and I've only just started I'm only 20 years old.

My beliefs all involve self-improvement, and a love for freedom. I don't know if my ancestors are proud of me, but I've got time to make sure they are.

>>133500728
>a golden glow
>prison yard lamps

that's how I know you're not white

>>133501612
>persian mathematician
Persians had a large greek admixture from Alexander, especially in their elite circles I'd imagine

>>133500742
Everyone is a pathetic loser in something. You just see people admitting it here because of the anonymity. Unless you are at r9k ofcourse.

Anyway I am in university which puts me in the top 17% of people my age. So the odds are good.

>>133501118
>former Greek Slaves living in North Africa.

What the fuck im reading. No meant to rude.

>>133501899
>Anyway I am in university which puts me in the top 17% of people my age. So the odds are good.

Don't be so quick to think you will escape. There is always more down and you have so far to fall. University means nothing in the grand scheme of things. The best advise I can give is to forget about making it in the "real world." Its all an illusion.

>>133501895
Proof? Also, how does that change al-Khwarizmi is not a Westerner?

>>133492284
>What other civilisation invented soring scyscrapers?
The Pyramids were there thousands of years ago.

>What other civilisation build gothic temples reaching into the sky?
Gothic temples didn't reach into the sky. They were actually rather bland in comparison to Roman and Greek architecture.

>What other civilisation conquered the earth's gravitational pull
Slavs?

>What other civilisation mapped the skies?
Arabs? Half the stars are based on arab names.

>WHAT OTHER CIVILISATION CLIMBS MOUNTAINS FOR SPORT!?
Indians/Nepalese.

>>133500757
>Islam actually. They discovered Algebra, too
>Skies
what?
Also that's about the only scientific breakthrough.
>One's near mountains I'd suppose.
actually no. Only westerners do this
>By the way, China invented paper, printing, compasses, gunpowder, and the gun.
I am not arguing about how impressive it is I am arguing about the pathos behind the civilisation. Also it were westerners who used these inventions to create new tools and apply them to life.
Your materialist view of history doesn't hold: Chinese had the ships to map the earth yet they just didn't. They had the stability and resources to develop a market system but didn't. Westerners constantly revolutionized their systems. And constantly explored new methods. Individual achievement became important in the west too. This all formed during the fall of the roman empire when europe was a melee of fighting tribes.

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>>133501355
>Russia is traditionally Western
whatever autist, try shout those sentence in public

ideology/building style/historically/etc

>>133502646
>They were actually rather bland in comparison to Roman and Greek
this

>>133502856
>what?

Dumb nigger is so uneducated that he doesn't know that most of the stars are named after arabs - including words like zenith and nadir.

Fucking Ursa Major is a translation of Arabic word for bear.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_Ursae_Majoris
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldebaran

full list
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Arabic_star_names

>>133502646
Pls read earlier posts of me I don't want to keep repeating things.
I am not arguing superiority here I am arguing the specific pathos of our civilisation:Distance, discovery, will to overcome, defeating yourself and your enemies and finally constant renewel. As opposed to eastern civs: continuity, cycles of life, finding ones proper place, submission etc. which can be great values.
also slavs are westerners.

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J E W S

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>>133503397

>>133503221
This is indeed true. And I don't say there will be exceptions. But the vast majority of stars don't have arabic names.
But interrsting point.
I thought you was just blandly trowing in algebra

>>133503397
>>133503635
Are jews westerners or easterners?
Or are they just jews?

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>>133502646
>rather bland
>not reaching into the sky
>american
checks out

>>133502646
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountaineering