>Net Neutrality goes away >internet, 4chan, porn, etc.

>>133448150
Because summerfags/redditfags from t_d said so.

The internet is a jewish invention created in order to keep the goyim sedated. All instant gratification to ruin the goys mind. Also created to see the goys thought process in order to predict the future. You will never see a revolution.

>>133448793
t. Guy who would never hold this opinion without the internet

>>133448901
I'm not your "guy", guy.

>>133448150
Well, when you put it that way....
I remember our power went out for a few hours once.
Everyone was out and enjoying themselves. It almost felt like a community.
Then it came back on and everyone couped back in. I felt like shit to be honest.

>>133448150
you're actually right, it would probably be the best thing to happen to humanity.

it's like when a drug addict is forced to give up their drugs, of course they're going to bitch and moan and act like its the end of the world when reality is that it's the best thing that could ever happen to them.

Isn't it a general rule that opticians name things the opposite of what they are? Net neutrality is no exception from what I understand. I'd like to hear actual pros and cons, tho.

dumb frogposter

All ANCAPs are subhuman cattle fit to pick my cotton and tend to my horses. Anyone who is against net neutrality are seriously retarded fucks who should stick their hand into a meat grinder.

Also fuck the democratic party.

>>133450570
Net Neutrality is what we have currently. Basically forces ISPs to run things at equal speed no matter what service or website you're using their service to access. Without Net Neutrality ISPs can charge you extra in order to access certain websites or services (eg 4chan.org) which if you refuse to pay you'll either be significantly throttled in speed or have your access shut down entirely. It wouldn't even be that big a deal if competition among ISPs was actually a thing, but that's actually pretty rare since monopolies like Comcast are the only option a lot of people have. Considering this, they'd be able to buttfuck you up the ass with charging for services you consistently use.

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>>133448150
Go ask Reddit, they love NN.

>>133448150
>internet, 4chan, porn, etc. all get fucked over or whatever

They won't. Only retards who think internet runs on politics do. Hence every sissy democrat who's never touched an ethernet cable supports the shit.

>>133448150
WTF I unironically support net neutrality now

>>133450570
>>133450900
>Without Net Neutrality ISPs can charge you extra
Which is only a problem because there isn't competition to run to.

And right now there isn't any real market competition because "open internet" laws won't let newcomers allocate their resources (bandwidth) properly in the name of "muh equality"
You think you have it nice but current speeds are shit for this reason.
"Open Internet" is propping up the current oligopoly. It's a massive internet safe space. It's the training wheels on your bike, made to keep you from falling and getting a booboo.

>>133453386
Then get rid of those regulations first before repealing Net Neutrality.

>>133448150

Because I need free internet to keep watching my Korean Theatre shows.

>>133453778
YES! Another flag for my collection!
Also what is a korean theatre show?

>>133453868
I'm talking about anime but those five letters are asking for trouble around these parts. Unless it's during real Straya hours like these.

>>133448150
good
I hope this place fucking burns

>>133454026
You're a funny guy

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>>133450876
Anyone who is against net neutrality are seriously retarded fucks who should stick their hand into a meat grinder

>against net neutrality

What are you so concerned about?

It's only Fascism...!

>>133453694
Net neutrality is comprised of those regulations.
Specifically the "Title II" classification of the internet, which makes it a "public utility".

It's that classification which allows government to get their grubby little hands on the tubes. Then under the pretense of "doing what's best for us" they have every opportunity to manipulate those regulations and encourage the cronyism the civilian-level public fears.

>>133452869
You contrarian retards are literally shilling for (((Time Warner))) which is by extension CNN.

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>>133453778
>Korean Theatre shows

PSY's "Gangnam Style" & "Gentleman" is easily available via YouTube.

>>133450876
>Anyone who is against net neutrality are seriously retarded fucks
You fell for it hook, line, and sinker dude.
"Net Neutrality" is a brand-name they thunk up to get you to swallow the fat cock of regulation.

>MUH EQUALITY
>EVERYONE DESERVE EQUAL CONNECTS HURR DURR

Ever since Net Neutrality was put in place, the Internet has gone into shit quality wise.

>>133454642
((()))'s get their power through government collusion which is facilitated through this kind of stuff.
>Oy vey you shouldn't be using bandwidth like that, goy! That's discrimination!
>If only you had a few shekels to share in reparation for your capitalist ways...then maybe you could do what you want with your ISP.

Things cost money for a reason, dude. Do not fear ISP's for charging what they need to charge to make shit efficient.

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>>133454480
>Then under the pretense of "doing what's best for us" they have every opportunity to manipulate those regulations

As long as that denies the inferior subhuman right-wingers of their right to spew their unjustifiable BS: FORCED Political Correctness, then please tell me - a left-winger who would love to see nothing less than all right-wingers eliminated (the inferior subhuman Shitler in WWII made sure of that) - in great detail how that can possibly be a BAD thing...?!

Go ahead. You have my undivided attention.

>>133455004
Oh you mean since the internet first existed then?

>>133448150
Net neutrality barely exists and didn't at all 2 years ago.

>>133455127
sauce

>>133455102
I don't understand your angle, dude.

Countries with net neutrality laws:
Brazil, Canada, Chile, India, Netherlands, Singapore, Slovenia, South Africa, United States, and United Kingdom

Every time you see someone posting on 4Chan from outside those countries remember the horror stories that net neutrality supporters tell are simply not true.

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>>133448150
>Net Neutrality goes away
>internet, 4chan, porn, etc. all get fucked over or whatever
>people are forced to leave their computers, go outside, talk to people and live life like normal

>Explain to me why this is a bad thing again?

Christ, the shills are really going all out.
I suppose that the forces in favor of ending net neutrality have brought in some better, more convincing apologists for this one. And some retards are actually falling for it.

The internet isn't just a timesink, it's an incredible forum for sharing ideas. Any younger folks might not remember what the world was like before this, but the internet as it currently exists is pretty fucking spectacular. We can exchange, compare, and evolve ideas at a speed and volume that was fucking unfathomable even just in the 1980s. And our constant comparison of ideas is pretty good at revealing the truth of things and forcing others to be honest. And there's still more that we can do in this avenue.

The only ones who win from being able to throttle, restrict, and control -- effectively censor -- information on the internet are fucking corporatists. Modern oligarchs. The people who try to shout down any dissenting opinions as "phobia" of one sort or another, the people who want to replace you with third-worlders who'll work for less and who are easier to control. These are the people who will, without the protection of net neutrality, have the greatest means to push their message and squash dissent MORE SO THAN THEY ALREADY TRY TO FUCKING DO.
You see what they already say and do now, and you want to make it easier for them?

If that's what you want, go ahead. Kill net neutrality and bring about the fucking cyberpunk dystopia. Except all of the cool music and aesthetics have been replaced by slavery and cultural suicide.

>>133455048
Except when service providers are also content creators and have a vested interest in throttling competition or whatever is deemed "necessary". Also what guarantee is there that changing the title 2 distinction will allow for more competition? Especially when the people lobbying for the former oppose the latter

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>>133455647
>your angle

45°

Next question.

>>133455667
>t. Guy paying %1000 inflation

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>>133448793
The shill is strong with this one. Open the gas chambers.

>>133455787
Expect this thread to die now that people are making sense

>>133455857
No seriously, what are you asking me to explain?
Why eliminating right-wingers is a bad thing?

Because as I just told you, the "right" on this issue is aligned with the free market that allows you not to be raped by crony capitalists.

>>133448150
what's so bad with banning porn?

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>>133448150

I would rather kill myself than live without the internet. and the fact that we aren't normal people. And don't want to be.

>>133448150
If anything the internet would be back to 2006 tier. If it requires effort to be around here normies would be gone.

>>133449316
I'm not your guy, friend

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>>133453778
do you mean Mongolian shadow puppet assemblies?

>>133448150
Because the flow of information will disappear and people will go back to thinking everything is "fine" and become progressively more bluepilled while the government and corporations fuck them over.

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>>133456052
>free market that allows you not to be raped by crony capitalists
>crony Capitalists

Oh no more, please Mr. Wilde, I am bereft of ribs!

All I can say is thank you for proving my point. Pic extremely related.

>>133448150
>porn
>fucked
yeah right

internet is better than tv for controlling your mind, they are going to find something to entertain us with

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>>133456052
>crony Capitalists

A reminder: your 'Emprah' IS the Elite: (((Them))).

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>>133456052

...and for a bunch of anti-Semites, your hypocrisy's showing.

>>133448150
>no internet to communicate on
>suddenly the establishment left, that already has control of every other form of media, can literally prevent the right from any widespread communication at all
>world becomes a leftist hellhole
thats why its a bad thing you stupid fucking kike

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>>133456885
>can literally prevent the right from any widespread communication at all

>world becomes leftist

...and speaking as a left-winger, please explain to me how this can possibly be a BAD thing?

>>133448150
>a literal Pajeet (P. Ajit, Ajit Pai) wants to shit on your Internet
>hey, let's welcome him! designate as many shitting websites as you want, Pajit!

>>133455840
>service providers are also content creators
I don't understand. You're implying Facebook has control over Twitter traffic, for example? That's not the case. Facebook doesn't provide internet.

Real ISP's can't throttle competition, because that would be like two gas stations, connected to different pipelines, influencing each other's flow of petrol.
What they "throttle" is their own services. Netflix vs World of Warcraft.
This is called "Traffic" Management, and ideally it's different across various "Freeways", because all traffic isn't equal.

>what guarantee is there that changing the title 2 distinction will allow for more competition
Because it's the basis for government control of Traffic Management. They are not allowing different companies to have control of their own resources.

Bandwidth is like the space on a roadway on which cars (data) can travel. It's limited, and forcing companies to price all levels of bandwidth consumption equally is like forcing all freeways to hold the same amount of cars.
It means that only the biggest companies can afford to play the game, and furthermore, only government officials - which can be bought and sold - have the "keys" to that legislation.

People lobbying for the change of the legislation - dropping so-called "open internet" - do it on the basis of allowing competition. They see "net neutrality" as a farce. Neutral internet means government cronies keep their hands off.

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>>133448150
Have you seen some of These other people?

>>133448150
>net neutrality goes away
>demand for net neutral ISP's skyrockets
>free market saves the day again.jpg

The Obama era net neutrality campaign was to push in federal oversight of the entire Internet with capabilities to restrict websites like 4chan and others such as infowars.

>>133448150
Its not a bad thing at all friendo. The world needs to be freed from the internet jew.

>>133456306
Seriously, what are you on about?
Free Market implies the absence of cronies, who use gov't regulation to control markets.

.>>133456667
What does this have to do with Net Neutrality as I've presented it? Which points specifically have you contradicted by calling Drumpf a Jew?

>>133456861
What are you trying to refute here? Are you still supporting our status quo on Open Internet?

Shit feels like spawning season for Red Herring.

>>133457561
best argument so far

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>>133457908
>restrict websites like 4chan's /pol/ and others such as infowars

And this is a bad thing... how?

>>133457908
If this happens and internet becomes cheap asf I'll be laughing at reddit fags for years to come

>>133454026
>real Straya hours

Wjat he>>133454278 said

It's bad because the weather is absolute SHIT for most of the year intill it becomes winter

>>133448150
Removing Net Neutrality doesn't fuck the internet to the point it goes away, it just means your ISP gets to pick which social network you can use based on which one has political leanings they like.

>>133458281
>legislating morality
>on my turf

Keep Sharia to yourself bingbong.

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>>133458108
>Red Herring

More like 'Red Pilling'. Also, excuses, excuses. Otherwise, you'd admit that Donald Fart is an inferior subhuman who isn't fit to run a lemonade stand, never mind a business: or a country.

But then, that's /pol/: a place full of excuses for human beiings: otherwise you'd admit that being alt-right is inferior. Otherwise, why isn't the world exactly as you would wish it to be...?

>>133458654
Ok go back to art school in the fall, Im done reading this inane trolling

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>>133458468
>Sharia

Oh, the irony.

>>133458451
>it just means your ISP gets to pick which social network you can use based on which one has political leanings they like.

Debatable, but it's only a problem if there's no competition.

In a world where we have the choice to go to another provider, they would go out of business for doing such wacky shit.
We currently have very few such choices, because "Net Neutrality" includes a regulation which stifles competition, by outlawing "traffic management". New companies can't function properly under this law.

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Here is what happens if your ISP bans porn, 4chan and other shit unless you subscribe to a more expensive "adult browsing" extra service: You subscribe to the "adult browsing" extra service and your traffic is from now on monitored more closely.

Anyone against NN is just a total retard not getting what it is about.

You don't have to be for anything reddit is against just because you feel like a rebel by doing so.

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>>133458778
>Ok go back
>Im done reading

...like I say (>>133458654): excuses, excuses.

Also, further proving my point.

>>133458930
monitored by who? the government is out of it without NN

>>133458910
You might THINK the competition would solve this problem but you can be fucking sure all ISPs can agree on one thing: They want to earn more money. And if all of them agree to charge extra for "adult" services, all profit. The competition will only be about HOW MUCH they charge and HOW MUCH porn e.g. you can watch before your paid service runs out.

>>133459064
bullshit, the government is ALWAYS in.
legal requests for data from the ISPs will always work.
all the CIAs and NSAs hacking tools will always work.

>>133458654
>>133458808
The irony of what?
Just who is talking about Donald Trump?

We were debating Net Neutrality and suddenly you got all butthurt about the alt-right because I made a few points you've yet to acknowledge.

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>>133458468

Proved the point of that cartoon >>133458281 , much?

>>133458930
They had the ability to do this stuff before Obama. Why didn't they?

>>133448150
>tumblr, reddit, facebook, twitter, instagram, snapchat, and worst of all youtube, all continue as if nothing happened

That's the issue.

4chan is like going outside already: there's no enforced ideology, no political correctness, no censorship, no registration, no identity check, no phone number verification, no hierarchy of users, no inequality of speech, and no trace left. That's why places like 4chan are important, because they're some of the last places where people can actually talk.

Everything else is just lies, likes, attention whoring, political correctness, "rightthink", data mining, communist-grade equality, and oppression of ideological minorities.

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>>133459364
>points you've yet to acknowledge
>replies with excuses

Oh, the irony II.

>>133459467
because big corps take years to negotiate and because in general the big corps did not get how powerful the web is till the elections.

they cow has been in their backyard for quite some time, but only now they realized they could not only milk, but slaughter it.

>>133459595
Yeah but it's not like you can't just make burner accounts not tied to your real info on other social media. Just open them with a secured browser and they will never know who you are.

>net neutrality goes away
>most of the internet, 4chan, porn sites, etc. get blocked by every American ISP
>all it takes to get around the block is a non-American VPN and DNS
>computer illiterate normalfags are no longer able to access most of the internet
>60% of 4chan users disappear overnight
>90% of phoneposters are gone
>most of the mods/janitors are also gone
>the quality of posts is now better than it has been for over 10 years

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>>133459364
>Donald Fart
>you got all butthurt
>posted pic: the essence of the alt-right & /pol/

Oh, the irony III, and you've struck out.

>>133459908
you forgot something:
>the government bans VPNs
>your traffic is monitored closer than ever

>>133459595
>4chan is like going outside already
Anon, I...

>>133459445
>there is nothing wrong with banning 4chan for degeneracy
That is called "legislating morality".
That is no good.
The banter is that a sizable minority in your country promotes legislation which governs morality under the name of Sharia Law. This is not a problem we have here in America because our Muslim population is relatively docile and reasonable.

But I also provided quite a lengthy post of legit arguments, separate from that banter, which you've yet to address, ironically.
Here, I'll re-summarize them in case the severity of that reality check threw you off:
>competition keeps the internet priced reasonably
>net neutrality stifles competition by outlawing traffic management
>it also facilitates cronyism by giving politicians authority over the internet

How do you feel about the current Net Neutrality laws in America, given those arguments?

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>>133460085
did someone rape you anon, are you larping? they can't be paying you to do this you're really bad at it

>>133460085
>talking about net neutrality
>you red herring'd me by talking about donald trump
>i called you out on it
>you still haven't acknowledged my argument

Who posted a picture about the alt-right? I think you're confused, because all I talked about was net neutrality and you still haven't gotten back to me on that. You just keep posting these irrelevant pictures.

>>133448150
You really want the average basement dweller on the streets?

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>>133460234
>Sharia

I refer you to >>133460085

Study the posted pic very carefully. Understand it's deeper meaning. If you can't ensure - even on Donald Fart shilling threads - that anyone who criticises /pol/'s precious 'Emprah' won't be replied to at least: or preferably, anything derogatory about him will be agreed with. Certainly without threats of violence: or death, then something infinitely worse than so-called 'Sharia' exists here in /pol/: which, by definition, is supposed to be AGAINST.

But then, that's the alt-right for you: Hypocrisy is hardwired into their DNA.

...and 'Bants'? That's the worst excuse of all. But then, 99% of /pol/ are good at those.

So I ask again: why should be anything done to 4chan, especially /pol/, which the likes of you - the alt-right - don't like, and a left-winger like me does, be such a BAD thing: from MY point of view...?

>>133459714
>because big corps take years to negotiate
We'd had the internet for over a decade. Surely these big corporations would have picked up on the idea that they can charge extra for porn access, 90's pedo chatroom access, etc etc.

It wouldn't be a problem if they did anyway, because you would just go to another company.
There would be more companies if newcomers were allowed to price their bandwidth consumption properly: the current regulation dictates that high-bandwidth services have to cost the same as low-bandwidth ones, which is hard on the producer.
This doesn't just mean oligopoly, it means those few companies which can afford to do that HAVE to compensate with high prices.

Alternatively, we could have a company emerge that JUST sells the low-bandwidth stuff, or selectively charges based on what you use during the day, so they can save money.

Are you aware that big corporations like Facebook and Google are vying for NN as well? They're afraid they'll lose traffic, but that fear costing us greatly in terms of internet speed and price.

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>>133449316
Get out, reddit

One word
Sage

NN only benefits kikes. Call FCC and congress if you're against it too.

>>133448793
The internet was invented by WASPs, but all the tech companies were owned by Jews who produced content for it to keep the goyim sedated.

>>133461081
Okay, we don't have to talk about Net Neutrality specifically, right now.
Let me first help you untwist your liberal panties for a second so you might be able to digest some new information later:

Your very first shitpost, which brought us down this rabbit hole, advocated for the restriction of /pol/ content, on the basis that it was mean.
Sometimes, even as a leftist, you like to say mean things. You should be allowed to do so. This is why you do not want to legislate morality.

Is UK the new leaf now with the meme flags?

>>133448150
It's only bad for the poor. I'll be fine and there will be less of you spastic children on. MAGA!

>>133448150
Isps want net neutrality to end so they can charge Google, facebook, and Netflix more. All those companies are pro net neutrality for more kike profits.

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it seems jewy how (((STREAMING SITES))) use up 90% of bandwith but dont want to be slowed down

>>133460206
Closest modern thing I guess. We used to be isolated shut ins, now our eyes are wide open.

>>133459837
Quite a chore just to state your opinion, and watch it disappear.

>>133448150
This will lead to instant civil unrest and war on the American continent.

>>133448150
Why would they censor anything?
The corp that censors the least will get the most traffic while the uber restricted one will look like dicks. I'm not sure what the problem is here.

>>133463735
perfectly stated