Do you want to enter websites like 4chan ect... For free or

Fuck yeah I'll pay if it keeps niggers and poorfags out.

Unless ISPs are allowed to throttle, Netflix addicts and heavy p2p users will suck up 95% of the bandwidth and leave nothing for everyone else.

>>133411286
>new fees
Wait isn't net neutrality like 4 years old? Wouldn't that make any fees imposed after it is repealed technically old fees?

>>133411600
False.

https://archive.fo/JU5x2

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>>133411522
4chan might even gonna get blocked and banned
and your favorite websites can get blocked and you would have to pay everyday

Why do we keep having to fight this thing back

What can we do to give it a death blow?

I know theres groups going on about free internet and that it is a basic human right.

Maybe congress needs to put something about maintaining net neutrality in its bill of rights?

Or maybe some smart scriptees will make a program to ensure that the net remains neutral.

break up the cable monopolies first nigger faggots

>>133411286
>Fuck the corporations! They're charging us too much! The government need to intervene in their business to make sure I can afford everything that I want!

You people are acting like niggers.

>save the internet by giving the kiked fed government full control
brilliant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzuvGzK48wg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Gh0NIQ3yd0

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/pol/ has spoken

http://www.strawpoll.me/13420194/

Nothing is free, you shitbag.

>>133413156
You can go back and shove that fucking spacing up your arse!

>>133413795
good goyim just let jewgle and amazon do whatever the fuck they want, surely they have the best interest of all you goys at heart

>>133411286
VOTE NOW
http://www.strawpoll.me/13420739
http://www.strawpoll.me/13420739
http://www.strawpoll.me/13420739
FREE MARKET OR REGULATION?

>>133411286
There actual proof they're gonna do this shit or is this all hyperbole?

>>133414132
Yes! Let them do whatever the fuck they want, and if I don't like it, I won't use their services. Let Jeff Bezos make his billions.

>>133414271
Literally zero proof. This will almost certainly not happen.

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>net neutrality didn't exist until 2015
>net neutrality as proposed still doesn't exist
>companies have yet to block 4chan or price gauge everything
>but surely the government wont do those things

>>133413795

> Ay hol up nigga hol up hol up dat shit be too expensih knawmsayin dem crackas be conchrollin dat shieeet hol up da gubmint need to gibmedat shit fo free knawmsayin hol up for reprashuns knawmsayin shiiiieeeettt

This board has finally become what they hate. Thanks Reddit

>>133411286
>>133411823
Save net neutrality! I fucking hate capitalists.

we wuz internauts

>>133414187
>Enforce a de facto standard through consumer choice in a free market.

You are asking the wrong questions

>>133411823
If they block 4chan then I will support NN
Until then fuck off

>>133411522
Agreed. Tired of shills, larpers and poorfags/liberals

>>133414629
That's literally exactly how it's worked the last 30 years.

>>133413795
Dude isps are the ruthless

The isps were only able to gain a foothold becuase those that set up the infrastructure and laid all that cable went under, and te isps bought it at a premium.

Why do the business want to do this?

Dont they make a shit ton of money already?

If you wanted to privatize the internet then you should have rolled it out like that, but no.
You gave us something and now you want to smash it up and break it up into tiny pieces.
You cant do that, people will be too angry.

The best way to do that would be piece by little piece so its hardly noticable.

>>133411286
blame your local government, faggots. they're the reason for localized monopolies that created this mess. stop trying to solve problems before you get to the root of their cause. you're all acting like leftist retards.

>>133413795
Stop playing identity politics fag, just because you're conservative on most issues doesn't mean you have to dickride everything they try to pass.

>>133414770
Give me one reason why we needed NN in 2015?

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>>133411286
I'm assuming you were the dude that last night made a thread about making a "Gang" to fight for net neutrality.

>>133414706
>Why do the business want to do this?
>Dont they make a shit ton of money already?
Yes, but like every other business, they want to make more money. If you think it's too expensive, then don't pay for it. If enough people stop paying for it, then they'll have to lower the price.

>>133414128
Thats a new fallacy for me now

Argumentum ad formatum

I dont like to strain my eyes.
Dont you know
T h. a. T. Single s p a c e
C
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>>133411286
why are you niggers so scared about this again all of a sudden?

is it just an effective slide technique to get us to stop talking about pic or is there some shit coming down the pipeline that you are worried about?

i think you're sweating balls right now

I don't quite understand, but how does net neutrality save competition?
Comcast would face competition from cheaper ISPs if they ramped up their prices and adapt or lose corporate value, without net neutrality.
With Net Neutrality, they can't do this and can thus keep their costs at a steady price while they can't block any sites which effectively makes them non-controversial outside of price.

>>133415102
Or just find some stupid way to make you have it

Kinda funny how everyone is so attached to their phones these days huh

>>133411286
net neutrality advocates are so fucking dumb it's a miracle they manage to remember to breathe

>DUDE THA COROPORATIOMNZ WANNA TAKE AWAY YOUR FAVORITE WEBSITES N SHIT FOR NO REASON

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>2017
>still doesn't use meshnet
ISHYGDDTS

>>133411733
It's been around since the late 80's.

>>133415331

that is a huge part of the problem. it only just strengthens the monopoly those corporations have via regulatory burden butting out potential competitors.

>>133415605
God damnit, it's the fucking contrarian Norwegian again.

>>133415331
In moste sane countries, the lines are rented out to the ISPs, but they own them in the good ol' US of A. Anyone wishing to enter the market will have to lay down their own lines, if they want to compete with Comcast or Verizon who just so happened to have lobbied the local government into putting regulations in place that make it nearly impossible for even google to lay down their own lines.

So government assisted monopolies would allow them to buttfuck most everyone and you can't even go to the other guy because he doesn't exist.

>>133411733
>>133415749
>net neutrality
The way the internet's been run since the late 80s

>Net Neutrality
Legislation introduced in 2015 by Obama to "protect and preserve" the internet by granting increased regulatory authority to the FCC

>>133411286
I already bought my 4chan pass, what else do you want from me?

Not being able to enter 4chan would be a blessing for 98% of us.

>>133416021
Wouldn't having the government seize the lines so that they could (and would) be hired be a proper solution then?

Although, that might sound a bit too socialist for America.

>>133415859
there's nothing wrong with the internet, the internet has been open and free for 20+ years.

why would anyone be in favor of net neutrality AKA total government control over the internet to regulate as they see fit?

>/pol/ exposes CNN for doing stupid shit again
>jew at CNN pays for his friends to cut off 4chan
>anyone who tries to criticize this suddenly gets their internet crippled
hmm

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>>133411286
So how exactly does net neutrality work? why does anyone want to change the internet now? does it have a misleading name to make net neutrality sound good when it is not? i remember FOPA and SOPA. i thought we killed this shit.

>>133416381
i hope this is bait

>>133411522
good point actually.

>>133411286
check the catalog for net neutrality threads before spamming
reported

>>133416402
Crowder made a pretty good video about it a few years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cLWgTIsMLM

>>133411286
>>133411823
Oh wow someone with a Nazi flag he must definitely be on our side and I should totally listen to whatever he has to say.
Sage

>>133416381
that's not how it works...

>>133416473
I hope this is bait

>>133414294
Yeah, refuse to use their service and then realise there is no other company to switch to.

>>133416402

It's a Trojan horse to get the federal government more control over the internet through the FCC.

>>133416029
That is wrong. The law had been around since the late 80's. The phrase Net nuetrality was coined in 2005. It has nothing to with Obama. Stop this false narrative.

>>133416526
>>133416660
thanks. ive looked this shit up five times and it still hurts my brain

>>133415102
> If you think it's too expensive, then don't pay for it. If enough people stop paying for it, then they'll have to lower the price.

Yeah, until a new bill comes out requiring everyone pay for platinum level internet access from ISPs even if they don't even use email. Just like obamacare and "insurance" requirements. Just don't do anything and it will solve itself by people paying for what they want. Government can't have people making voluntary interactions so we gotta do net "neutrality" even though that is what we have had up until relatively recently.

>>133416660
>Implying the alternative is better.

It's going to be regulated either way. At least this way it's cheap and uncensored.

>>133416602
>your mom won't go lower than 15 quid for a half-b-half
>she's the only ho in town
Got fuck everyone if you fuck someone. Ho-neutrality.

>>133416402

Don't you understand? We'll never kill it, man. Every single time anything is done to stop it, they'll just wait a little while and try to shove it through under a new name.

They're not even relying on being able to smuggle it past any of us. They're relying on issue fatigue. Look at the posts about it all over the fucking internet right now. "Are you guys on about this AGAIN?" That's what they want.

This happens all over politics. If any Irish bros are reading this, please do explain all the times this was done to you guys in the last 15 years or so over dumb shit like bank bailouts, referendums that were posed again and again until you gave the "right" answer or nobody bothered turning up.

We in Britain were really scared that our EU referendum would turn into a "neverendum" too, something that we repeatedly get posed until we answer Remain like good goyim.

It's even worse with laws than it is with issues you can actually vote directly on since repeatedly posing the same fucking thing costs practically nothing compared to repeatedly holding a vote.

Constant vigilance is the only solution for now, and that's only a stop-gap. In the long term, people who actually understand this shit and care (And there are loads on the internet, look at the gigantic community of open source autists who code "free as in freedom" variants of every kike proprierary platform) are going to have to establish some kind of parallel internet or something, some means of having another service or protocol that's out of the reach of legislators.

I barely understand computer technology myself, sadly.

>>133411286
Anyone who says this issue is 'Companies vs. the people' is wrong. It just giant companies vs. other giant companies.

>>133411522
Yeah fuck subhumans. Determinism all the way.

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>>133411286
Oh shit, yea this is a big deal anon

>>133416600
are you 12 years old ? do you know 1 thing about ISPs ? do you know that there are more providers than one. are you aware that these people don't care about you making a pepe meme of CNN that much to run their business into the ground, which they would do if they BLoCkED 4chan because some journalist on CNN was butthurt? hypothetically do you know how fast their competitors would swallow up the demand and get the people in need back on 4chan? is your brains just full of memes, do you live in the real world?

>>133416315
Too "Un-America" and we we actually need to drain the fucking swamp to prevent them from being sold back.

>>133417184
Hiro doesn't understand how this country works. That was probably added by that mod who thinks he's a celebrity.

let it happen - all the cool people will get around it and we can go back to internet 1.0

>>133414330
>>133414271
bullshit. They have actually started doing it, even with net neutrality in effect.

In an ideal world, net neutrality would not be needed, the free market would drive neutrality. In reality, the internet is a monopoly, or if you are lucky, a doupoly.

>>133417320
fuck off you jewy libertarian, I don't wanna pay more for my internet and have it companies control what i see and what i dont see because of "muh freemarket" bullshit.

Fuck you and fuck milton Friedman. Sick and tired of you fucking retarded ass libertarians, Go join your failed ass fuck communist counterparts and die in a pit of shit.

There were no net neutrality rules before 2015. This is not Armageddon for the internet

i gotta hand it to the net neutrality advocates, it's almost impressively deceptive. they're adverstising government regulation of the internet with buzzwords like "net NEUTRALITY" and SAVING the internet, as if something is being taken away by some shadowy force. incredible how effective memes are.

>>133417587
>I don't wanna pay more for my internet
Then don't. No one's making you. If you're really that poor, you don't need to use the internet, but you can go to your local library and use it for free.

>>133416823
>That is wrong. The law had been around since the late 80's
Alright, where is it? Show me exact piece of federal legislation that standardized network neutrality on the web.

>>133417587
let me get this straight, you don't want the ISP companies(which you can switch at ANY time) to see what you're doing on the intenet, but you want the GOVERNMENT to see what you're doing ? LMAO

>>133417600
There was a reason it was created. You are ignoring that reason. I don't want the internet censored and divided into data packets.

>>133417782
Useful idiot of corporations.
>But muh free markets will make things cheaper
>But it will all work out in the end!
>b-b-b-b-b-ut well get more freedom!

>>133418048
But that's how it works. Adding regulations only ever necessitates adding more regulations.

>>133417986
The govt. is supposed to follow the 5th amendment. We already know mega corps. Will sell your data. Do you really want your insurance company to know you enjoy traps?

>>133417782
internet is pretty much a necessity. If there was a free market, you would just choose a provider that didnt jew you. if you live in the big city, you *might* have a choice between two major ISPs. thats it.

>>133417011
Cheap i will agrer with

But uncensored?

You think the governments gonna let you look at the next presidential encumbants leaked emails to wikipedia?
You think they wont put a filter on classified material through targeted word search?

Its gonna be just like the railroads
Either they are gonna be government owned or business owned.

I think the people need to co opt the infrastructure, lay their own fiber optics, launch their own satellites
And create a free net.

>>133417986
Government is still gonna see what your doing no matter what, your delusional as fuck if home land security is just gonna back off because "Muh freemarket"

All thats gonna happen is your gonna get charged up the ass and still have big brotha goberment watching you.

I want net neutrality removed because I believe it's another stepping stone on collapsing the U.S. economy and possibly the nation itself. Ruining the internet for everyone would be hilarious.

>>133418139
Yea the monopoly internet services are just gonna drop the prices now because they are so kind and want your money, Get fucking real dude. Thats like saying gas companies will constantly drop there prices in a race to the bottom. Doesn't work that way.

I just thought of something:

>John Oliver talks about how we need Net Neutrality to protect us from the evil cable companies
>John Oliver's show is on HBO
>HBO is owned by Time Warner
>Time Warner owns Time Warner Cable

What's their endgame?

>>133411522
This will be the actual future tho
>Kek poorfag spic here on government internet welfare
>I don't have to pay to use 4chan like everyone else
>Fuck drumpf fuck white people
>black man here on California internet freedom to take down blocked sites to tell you all fuck drumpf
Can't wait for George soros to give out a million accounts and pay for them to access here..

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>>133417986
>14year olds forcing the switch meme again
Here, have a map of the places with more than one service provider.

>>133418275
.t double digit IQ

gl in your quest to give the government full control of the internet to regulate as they see fit

>>133416402
Content providers (netflix, google, etc.) prefer to consolidate all their servers into a single monolithic data center and have the ISP pay for the infrastructure required to backhaul all that data out of one point to the end user.

The ISPs either want the content providers to decentralize their server infrastructure to be closer, network wise, to the end user, or to pay MUH FAIR SHARE to the ISP for the costs of building a distribution network capable of delivering their content.

This is a disagreement between the content providers and the network providers, and they should work it out among themselves without the government getting involved. The scare tactic of them trying to convince the end user that they are going to have to pay a premium to access their favorite site is complete bullshit designed to get you to side with one mega corporation who doesn't want to pay another mega corporation for the use of their resources.

>>133417991
So was the internet any worse to use before? Not really.

>>133418619
stop being poor move somewhere else

>>133416021

I don't think the ISPs own the lines in my area. Well idk they may own the physical line but they lease the pole space, and actually the local government stepped in a couple of years ago and told them to fuck off and stop accessing the poles, and the biggest isp here sold off most of their bucket truck fleet because they couldn't personally do shit with them any more.

>>133418634
fine don't wanna listen, let it pass then. Well see what happens afterwards. fuck it dude. SS this post. all thats gonna happen is people are gonna get charged up the ass for everything now and shits going to get censored more. w/e fuck it.

>>133418619
right.... i get to choose between at&T, TWC, and comcast. Im sure one of them will not fuck me in the ass.

>>133418619
I'm willing to bet that represents a vast majority of Americans.

>>133411286
I want to pay. Free market is the best

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>>133418619
>bumfuck nowhere ought to have multitudes of ISPs besides satellite

>>133411600
Even if that were true, the ISPs could stop being such jews and improve it. The US pays some of the highest for internet in the world, yet has some of the worst infrastructure.

>>133414187
Corporations, especially Jewish owned ones, don't have to make descisions based on consumer choice fucking idiot.

>>133411286


Here's the leftie gameplan.

Make up some sort of crazy tragedy that is going to occur. The oceans will rise, babies will be deformed and die, the internet will stop working. There is no need for this to actually be happening.

Make people think this future event is real and guaranteed unless you pass X policy.

Sell X policy like crazy, and sneak some bullshit corruption in.

Profit. You can make people do anything with this formula.

>>133418738
>So was the internet any worse to use before? Not really.
This.
Net neutrality was never an issue for the past30 years. If this Evil shit was going to happen why didn't they do it before? Now all of a sudden we;ll get screwed? I'm not buying it. All I need to know about net neutrality is that Obama was for it. Worse comes to worse I'll just cut the cord. I can go two or three years without Internet, it doesn't bother me. I cut cable tv 10 years ago, just recently got another cell phone but haven't had a phone period for 4 years. You plebs need to learn to go out and play once in a while. Instead of sitting in front of your computer getting fat.

>>133419618
You're such a piece of shit. I swear to God /pol/ is fill of fucking capitalist shills.

>>133414535
I want to save it because I love the free market. Weird.

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>>133419618
Yes I am a master to corporations yes i want to pay, Yes master ill give you all my shekels!!! yes master i love you! yes yes please take all my money! Big corporations are the best!!!

>>133414652
>implying it can easily be undone

This revision carries a special clause so the law can't change it back.

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>>133414652
>I will support something after it has been removed and i'm fucked

>>133413795
>Fuck the corporations! They're charging us too much! The government need to intervene in their business to make sure they can't jew us!

Fixed that for ya.

>>133420111
That's gotta be bullshit

>>133414187
>free market

That's the issue. Right now it's not, and can't become, a free market.

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>>133420215

>The government isn't run by jews and corporations

>>133420111
i wont accept them trips until i get a citation my man

I can't believe how fast /pol/ woll shill for Jewish owned coporations because

>MUH FREE MARKET HUUUURRRR
>FREEEEEEDUMB

>>133420111
yeah like obama care, that was so easy to repeal. We have all the sectors of government atm and its still like pulling teeth to get that shit un-fucked.

>if removing net neutrality sucks well just undue it! its so easy man! Just a snap of the fingers!!

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You faggots need to get on the Archive and back up anything useful that you can find, Codefag, Truthbombs, you name it. I have to agree with the voices saying that they will attempt to regulate, either way, which there will be two outcomes:

>Massive widespread retaliation in the form of DDoSing, hacking, boycotting, memeing, and cyber attacks.
>Parralel Internet will come to be in the form of either 'cracked' ISPs or the rise of completely new ISPs to bypass Charter kikespeed internet and the like, corporations are too greedy to completely abide by the Jew if there is money to be made in the aforementioned..

Whatever damage control they try to implement will pale in comparison to the raw fury of a tech-savvy man in his mid 30's forced to pay extra for his lolicon. See to it that you strike back as well.

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>>133411600
Techfag here, this.

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>>133418619
That map is literally "counties with more than one BROADBAND" provider. That's not including DSL, satellite, mobile, etc and yet it STILL covers most of the populated United States
http://www.ibtimes.com/comcast-expands-data-cap-trial-bid-make-more-money-cord-cutters-2173417

>>133414271
There was a list of shit they have already sone, with Comcast (P2P throttling, and monitoring user's activity to know when to throttle and not) , Verizon, and AT&T (throttling competing services) being the biggest offenders.

>>133414497
If they do at least we can vote them out. Can't do shit with a monopoly.

>>133419942
>this Evil shit was going to happen why didn't they do it before?

Why do you think the bill was created in the first place? Why do you think the leftys botch about mergers between AT&T and who ever?

Also we didn't use the internet in the past the same way as do today.

>>133418227
I live in SW Florida. I can choose Comcast for cable internet or fucking no one.

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>>133417092
bro

look up Part 15 Mesh networking. This is the parallel network you speak of.

>>133411286
fuck off zuckerberg. don't you have to get slammed in your ass by that gook wife?

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>>133420666
>>133418619
Pic related is two or more wireless.

The "only X options" argument is bullshit

>>133420952
exactly these libertarian retards dont understand that, They think "muh freemarket is best no matter what".

And if you disagree with them they just block there ears like ding dongs and say "NO NO NO FREE MARKET IS BEST NO MATTER WHAT NO NO NO MILTON FRIEDMAN SAID SO"

>>133411286

FUCK OFF REDDIT

>>133420666
>hat's not including DSL, satellite, mobile, etc
Which aren't comparable in the slightest. Constant lag spikes and shit speeds makes them unusable for many tasks aside basic browsing.

It's like saying you don't need electricity because you own a 9 volt.

>>133420952
>I can choose Comcast for cable internet or fucking no one.
So go with dsl... or satellite... or mobile...

Without net neutrality the internet is no longer free. You may as well be living in a third world shithole where corporations rule which sites they want you to visit and which ones they don't. Websites deemed "Hate Speech" websites will most certainly be blocked. You fucks have to be the dumb of fucking dumb as door knob fucks on the fucking planet. There's no way you want that much poeer to be put into the hands of, non-government, corporations without being some kind of astronomical fucking idiot.

>HUUUR LIBRULS LIKE NET NEUTRALITY SO DAT MEAMS I HATE IT FREEE MARKET(for kikes not you) FREEEEEDUMB GUISE

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THE TRUTH ABOUT NET NEUTRALITY:

Let's regulate the internets! We're gonna need to create a whole new branch of government to enforce it. Once we pay for all of that (and scrub whatever the current administration considers a' threat to society' from the internet), I'm sure we'll find a good use for all that sudden revenue!

>>133411286
Lemme see.... Government creates the internet monopolies then creates NN to regulate said companies so that said monopolies now have to pay the beurocrats of the government that created them so they create regulations that favor said companies. Ummmm no thank you!

>>133418619

And most of those places with a "choice" only have two to choose from, usually one of them will be for high end speeds while the other is shitty and cheaper. I get to choose between Comcast and Frontier. It's literally either a giant douche or turd sandwich.

>>133421287
>implying those are comparable

I don't use the internet to browse Facebook faggot.

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>>133418619
>>133420666
>>133421143
holy shit
I had no idea.
Jesus christ what the fuck are those faggots smoking?

>>133411522
exactly, the population of /pol/ will be wiped out. Stormfags won't be able to afford both websites.

>>133421194
I am a libertarian and I think the free market is usually the best. Monopolies (what the ISPs are) are the exception to that rule.

>>133421287
and those suck...
So right now he can use cable internet with no issues.
Or you remove net neutrality and he gets Charged up the ass because big corporations are so nice and never do that since there is no competition around and hes forced to pay more for no reason or chose a shittier service.

>BUT MUH FREEMARKETS WILL MAKE EVRATHING BETTER

even though right now things are going perfectly fine for him.

>>133420444
No shit they are, but we have more control over them than monopolies.

>>133411522
Fuck off shill.

>>133411823
They are corporate shills. Don't listen to them.

>>133414535
>Save net neutrality! I fucking hate capitalists.
Thats cause you're a lazy pussy.

>>133421257
I'm on a 15 Mb/s DSL line and it's perfect for everything I need - browsing, gaming, streaming, etc.

This is how the free market works - you decide what you want, what you're willing to accept, and how much you're willing to pay.

YOU not being willing to accept anything less than 50 MB/s cable internet does not mean there aren't other options, it only means you aren't willing to accept them.

>>133411286
I'm not American though, but I would love to help.

>>133421341
At least the governmrnt has to answer to the people, corporations don't. The problem isn't gornment it's Jews and other foreignrrs ruler over you. Stupid fuck. Corporations will block hate speech websites for the ADL and SPLC

>>133414497
Net Neutrality has existed since the 1980s shill-boy.

Corporate lackeys like you get boiled in oil on the day of the rope.


>>133414756
>Stop defending an open internet and the freedom of information it allows.

Fuck off shill.

>>133411522
Black guy here. I bought a 4chan pass. Another $20 for entry is nothing. You may now consider 4chan BLACKED now.

>>133414706
>The isps were only able to gain a foothold becuase those that set up the infrastructure and laid all that cable went under, and te isps bought it at a premium.
Why don't you ask your government on why they make it hell to lay new infrastructure. I will give you hint, they have the power and they get bought off... So.... your solution, give the government more power. Get smart!

>>133411286
> oy vey goyim, give the internet to your government so we can buy it

if both faceberg and jewgle and hiroshi- (my data mine is so damn fine) moot are for it, something's amiss

I'd prefer to have to pay. Advertising, and how it forces sited to emphasize only the outrageous, is killing society

>>133420456
Looking, if thread dies EFF had some info in it.

>>133415331
>Corporate cable monopolies

>Negatively effected by not having net neutrality.

They are the ones pushing for i you cock-sucker. Fuck off shill.

Fuck off shill.

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>>133413950
http://www.strawpoll.me/13420194

>>133421817
"Network Neutrality" - the idea that data and traffic should be treated equally, has existed since the 1980s and it's been the de facto standard of the web despite there being virtually no federal regulation enforcing it.

"Net Neutrality" is a bill that was passed by the Obama Administration in 2015 giving the FCC more regulatory powers, most of which haven't come into effect yet.

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>>133411522
>hates the globaist elute
>gives them more money

>>133421948
Not sure if actually retarded.

IF NET NEUTRALITY ENDS

ISP CORPORATIONS WILL BLOCK "HATE SPEECH" WEBSITES

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>>133420456
In my search I found rage.

>>133411286
This net neutrality thing stinks to high heaven... are the bogs involved?

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>>133422129

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>>133419618
This is just a reminder that lolberts get flayed alive and hung by their entrails on the day of the rope.

>>133422336
nice spin

>>133422245
>ISP CORPORATIONS WILL BLOCK "HATE SPEECH" WEBSITES
Dumb statement! Google removes websites from their search engines all the time. This is defacto blocking. You are being emotional and not using logic.

>>133411733
Why do so many people on /pol/ think this? Just because some legislation doesn't mean NN is "new." Internet traffic has always been treated equally, neutrally. This is how little independent sites and apps can compete--because they aren't being squeezed out by big companies who can pay the ISP's to give their customers priority data to use their sites and products. For instance Facebook will have unlimited data and not count against your data usage, so they now have an advantage to branch out and offer other services that keep users on Facebook instead of elsewhere. Can you people not see where this would go? Losing NN is the corporatization of the internet. It's giving power of speech and press back to the old gatekeepers like CNN and publishing houses.

It sucks that people here are so absorbed into Identity politics that they will suppoort something that would fuck up your access sites like 4chan. How the fuck can someone go that far. I'm honestly starting to think that anyone in favor oof ending net neutrality is a paid shill. I can't understand how someone who has been coming here for years wants to end net neutrality.

>>133422357
>ayn rand
>not objectivist
hmmm

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>>133422129
Depressing.

>>133422503
Google isn't an ISP dumb ass.

>>133411286
>>133411286
Its a fear mongering campaign. There is nothing that references 'net neutrality' in the us. The rule they are thinking about overturning, title II, was instated in 2010. Note how we had no throttlimg in 2008, why would it suddenly happen now? No companies have stated they would do such a thing.

>>133422588
Google Fiber is what

>>133422565
It's because we don't blindly accept what Reddit and Google tell us, and we understand what net neutrality actually is, and why it's bad.

>>133411286
>State intervention
No. Gubmint git out.

>>133413795
>>133414535
When you have to pay 50 bucks just to read conservative media qnd use /r/the_donald but its ok because you support da fwhee mawkeet

>>133422681
Literally yes.

>>133421143
Thats just not true though. Yea theres coverage but the price and spped diffrence is significnt. I have no proof and i havnt looked into it at all but i woul bet my car that theres a connection between area providers. They create a "compeditor" to avoid monopoly claims.

Here where i live there are 2 bottom end options
1. the main company 44.99 for 100mbps up 10 down

2. obscure company 29.99 10mbps up 10 down two year contract minimum.

Tell me theres real competition in my market. I tried to go total mobile and only use personal hotspots, blew 5 gigs in 10 days, and i couldnt watch streaming video outside of youtube b/c throttle after the first 3.

tldr - its a fucking scam

>>133422565
Black Nationalism is identity politics, but I otherwise agree with the rest of your points.

>>133422667
Break it down for me then.

>>133422459
You said that the first time - doesn't change the fact that mine actually describes the content of the debate, or that it has more votes in half the time.

I noticed your Jolly Rodger flag. Are you a pirate, bitch? Because you sure seem like a salty dog.

>>133418619
Nice map. Too bad it doesn't reflect what "choices" we really have. Most have only one or two big companies like TWC to choose from. The others are BS dsl like century link or verizon 4g wifi or the odd satellite company that horrendously slow and super expensive. Unless you live in a big metro are you basically fucked. I'm not shilling for ISP or cable companies but it's not cost effective to run cable to ma and pa kettle in wyoming. No people, no service. It's a huge investment to provide service to rural places and small towns. And there is a political side to it also. Cable company rights usually involve a deal with local council to supply free service to gubbmint for a license. It happened here 25 years ago and they still get free service and no other cable providers available to choose from. Big metro areas get around that because of competition. My parents farm is out in the boonies with no cable available. Some company strung fiber optic cable in the 80's and to this day no one is using it.

>>133422565
>It sucks that people here are so absorbed into Identity politics that they will suppoort something that would fuck up your access sites like 4chan
You don't know what you're talking about, and just repeating fear mongering propaganda.

The whole "package" meme is bullshit.
You know why TV stations have to provide packages?
There's limited frequencies you can broadcast. Those frequencies can all be bought up, and the result are channels.

The internet doesn't have limited frequencies. There will be no "channels" or "packages".

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SAY NO TO NET NEUTRALITY IT'S A SCAM TO SECURE GOVERNMENT CONTROL OVER THE INTERNET LONG PAST THE TRUMP ERA
SAY NO TO COMMIES

>>133421805
>At least the governmrnt has to answer to the people, corporations don't. The problem isn't gornment it's Jews and other foreignrrs ruler over you. Stupid fuck. Corporations will block hate speech websites for the ADL and SPLC
Another dumb statement. It is easier to hold corporations accountable. Corporations have to answer to the people more so. Its call the court of law. It is substantially easier to sue a corporation. Good luck holding unelected bureaucrats of the FCC accountable and good luck suing the government.

>>133422681
Show me any empirical evidence this will be the case. You are being over emotional, do actual research

>>133411286
>Nazi wants commie laws and more government control
>Wanting federal control over something as free as the internet
>Not wanting small ISPs to thrive
You do realize Net Neutrality is exactly what creates a "too big to fail" mega corporation backed by the corrupt government, yes?

>>133422503
Google isn't an ISP... You don't have to use Google to get to a website. And just because google does it doesn't make it right.

Fuck right off shillboy.

>>133422581
It's the shills trying to sway discussion. I don't know ANYONE who supports it IRL.

>>133422802
It's been broken down already in the thread. Crowder's a little cringry, but he explains it pretty well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cLWgTIsMLM

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>>133421805
>At least the governmrnt has to answer to the people
topkek

>>133422845
it doesn't though, you are giving people the choice of a free market, it doesn't and never will work like that with ISPs

>>133422681
I know. These free market shills are fucking stupid. It's like they're unintelligent genetic undesirables.

>>133421658
I was on one of those. My max real DL was 3.4 AT BEST, it cut out when it rained often, among other issues. I tried Verizon. Very expensive, just as shitty, and cut out all the time. Even tried T-moblie. Same fucking issues. Even browsing was a pain, let alone gaming, streaming, etc.

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>>133411286
Shut the fuck up shill

>>133422357
>Uses Ad-Homniem argument against supposedly jewish character of a few free market economists
>Does not even bother to look at any of the solid arguments, facts, reasoning, and data that shows why a free market country would usher in a new era of unimaginable prosperity and happiness.

Off yourself, mentally lazy swine.

>>133422965
>Google isn't an ISP... You don't have to use Google to get to a website. And just because google does it doesn't make it right.
Exactly, this is my point. NN has no effect on someone blocking a site!

>>133411286
As a 4chan pass owner, I do pay for them.

>>133420601
>Someone with some experience and common damn sense
Finally.

>>133422878
>Say no to having the government protect the internet from greedy corporations from turning it into a sterilized corporate store where no freedom of speech exists.
You want to protect it FROM the market, not the other way around dumbass.

Corporatism/capitalism = greed and tyranny.

>>133422655
Years away from completion?

>>133417298
>he thinks there's competition in the American ISP market
That's not how it works here, most people have literally no choice in internet service provider save for moving somewhere else. Muh competition only works when you don't have monopolies, which isnt the case here.

>>133422975
It does though.

>>133423096
>>Google isn't an ISP... You don't have to use Google to get to a website. And just because google does it doesn't make it right.
And for most people, google is the only way to get to a site. Its almost like removing a site from the DNS

>>133422927
>small ISPs

They're already too big to fail and crush any potential competition by any means. The corrupt government is trying to help the mega corporations theyre backed by right now repeal NN.

>muh hate speech
If they will circumvent the 1st Amendment with "hate speech isn't free speech", why won't they just say "hate speech" is accepted to censor under NN?

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>>133423242

>>133422751
>Yea theres coverage but the price and spped diffrence is significnt.
You are literally defining capitalism - you, as a consumer, decide what you want, what you're willing to accept, and what you're willing to pay.

How important is neutral treatment of network traffic to you? Important enough that you'd write an angry letter to your provider's corporate office? Important enough that you'd accept a slower or more expensive service provider?

>>133419857
>The current problem is: Big corporations regulated by the government are fucking KIKES
>the what if problem is: Big corporations STILL backed by the government STILL won't stop being KIKES!
And net neutrality stops this how?

>>133422927
You do realize that NN is the only thing even remotely reigning in the power if monopolies, right?

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>he is anti-NN
>he wants media corporations to freely control his internet
>he thinks giving jewish companies more power helps his cause
top cuck

>>133423177
Why would you ever be so stupid?

>>133411286
I'd like it if every had to pay to access any website. Would probably mean a lot more people going outside

>>133423347
How is the government not accountable?

>>133423214
Ancaps would enslave their own families and sell them if it supported free market. They're fucking stupid.

>>133423388
The NN legislature does absolutely fucking nothing to break or even soften the existing monopolies.

Talk to the FTC or local government if you want to see some progress on that front - because the FCC isn't going to do jack shit about it.

>>133411286
I already pay for them, retard.

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>>133423076
I've seen all your "facts". You fuckers are worse than commies.


Corporate brown-nosing lapdogs and sociopaths. We are closer libertarianism now than ever before and it sucks for everyone but the rich.

Go peddle your poison somewhere else, shillboy. You fuckers will get the gas.

>>133411286
Why is this shill campaign happening today?

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They lost control of the narrative on the internet.

In the past the Mass Media was all the news you needed and They controlled TV, newspapers and radio stations.

Freedom and Truth are the Enemy of Mass Media.

>>133423361
Because the government isn't abusing any of it's power, while ISPs have been trying to for years and being blocked by NN.

>>133423319
Fuck off corporate shill.

>>133423314
That is so incredibly false and sounds like you don't know jack shit. San Francisco area is heavily monopolized by Comcast currently but there are solid indie choices that easily out preform Comcast in every way. The only downside is they're lesser known and because they're smaller/less funded, they're not as big. Limiting that small ISP to the same standards as the mega corporation is FULL RETARD.

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>>133418669
>The only voice of reason in this thread.

>>133423434
Purchasing a 4chan pass is not stupid.

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>>133423481
>They're fucking stupid.

No they are fucking evil. Death to all of these crypto-jew scumbags. Kikes love capitalism.

>>133420601
Techfag here, this is false.

>>133423490
>The NN legislature does absolutely fucking nothing to break or even soften the existing monopolies.


No, but it prevents them form abusing their power as monopolies.

If we find a way to bring back the free market when it comes to ISPs, then yeah, kill NN if you want.

>>133413156
Maybe reddit will get shut down and we'll be spared from this spacing.

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>>133421805
>the governmrnt has to answer to the people

And, as always, they will handle the internet with the utmost efficiency and even handedness that the US government has always been known for.

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>>133423551
>Because I trust the government
>The government will never turn on its own people!
Discarded.

>>133411286

i already pay for them and i want to pay a lot more for worse service

god bless the (((free market)))

>>133423388
>You do realize that NN is the only thing even remotely reigning in the power if monopolies, right?
The government created the monopolies... So you want the government to regulate them so that the monopolies then have to pay politicians to make regulations that favor them. This is what crony capitalism is. For the fucking life of me I can never understand why people don't see that the more power you give government the more corrupt they become.

>>133423591
You are unobservant, or hate sarcasm. No clue which.

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>>133423481
this.

>>133423469
>How is the government not accountable?
Do you read any news?????????????????????

>>133417864
>when the fags are this new
it was a principle, reliant on the most powerful nation not electing an asshole nigger.

>>133423239
Are you retarded i live in the middle of nowhere and i have 8 isps to pick from you nigger

>>133411286
acting as a common carrier means that ISPs are not liable for illegal content on their networks.

net neutrality forced them to audit and provide proof that they were ensuring "fair" access to everyone, while at the same time putting the entire sector under a regulatory body that is easily manipulated by shitlibs.

the same people bitching about this are also screaming to ban "hate speech", shut down sites they don't like, and demand "regulation" of talk radio.

>be comcast
>want to offer local alternative to netflix because netflix is sucking fuckloads of traffic while nuking your cable box audience
>oh wait, you are required to ensure netflix gets the same exact bandwidth that your own solution gets
>either cuck your own thing so no one wants it, or invest massively to give netflix free access to your newly upgraded network
>consumers end up paying for everything in the end
>everyone bitches about comcast even more

these companies laid their own lines and built their own networks to get away from government regulation bullshit.

These net neutrality rules were instated during the obama years. The internet pre-obama didnt have 'throttling'. Its bad for business. Even comcast and att support these obama rules. If you liberals are so anti mega corporation, why would you share the same view?

>>133423678
>what is a strawman

The choice of who to trust is
>Monopolies which constantly try to abuse power
>The government where in this one instance hasn't

Gee, which should I pick?

>>133423720
I'm not even bothering with sarcasm at this point. These threads are too full of people replying seriously to tell the difference anymore.

>>133423358
thats not the point, the point is theres not competition.

Theres being able to read text on the internet end theres being able to use the internet.

If the company charged 100$ a month for 100/10 id have to pay it, and they will. month to month no contract isnt for me its for them to raise the price so they can find the point people decide to do without.

Try using 10/10 you cant even order shit from 1800 contacts its a fucking joke. so once again the only options are
100/10
10/10
1000/100
from two diffrent companies. its like saying that a home depot and a wallgreens are competitors. In all reality for anyone with a smart phone and a computer there is ONLY one provider.

>>133423718

They trust corporations less than the government, is what it boils down to.

>>133423793
You're literally making my point for me - there is no legislature, it wasn't needed, we didn't need to fix what wasn't broken.

net neutrality =/= Net Neutrality

>>133423804
>Are you retarded i live in the middle of nowhere and i have 8 isps to pick from you nigger
Prove it! And if so, you have nothing to worry about.

>>133411286
I am president of 4chan Pol and I did not authorize this. Too busy authorizing importand uttack on deh Jeeeews.

>>133423678
I trust the government more than the corporations who try and control the government to push shit like this.

Corporations are the nexus of human evil in western society.

>>133423770
You're confusing responsibility with accountability. The government IS accountable, but it is also very irresponsible. People are too tolerant of this and so they get away with it. They have only themselves to blame but instead they blame the government and pretend to be powerless victims.

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>>133413156
The best solution is to pass a law categorizing Internet infrastructure like broadband cables to be legally considered infrastructure - federal statutes would prevent service providers from squeezing companies doing business through what would then be public infrastructure. My explanation is shit but read this:

http://archive.is/lYpYG

>>133411823
>Destroying the contaiment website

>>133423861
Fair enough. I assume you can see the clover though.

>>133423632
I agree, I also hate the AnCaps' very un-Christian pseudo-philosophical premise that humans are naturally easily corruptible.

>>133423974
>They trust corporations less than the government, is what it boils down to.
Its incredible really, after everything we know that the government does... after witnessing how they are never held accountable.

>>133424071

I wish a nigga would

I want the internet ruined so I will stop using it ;(

>>133422875
It's that why american ISPs complain about the bandwidth websites use and use it as an excuse to limit your internet?

>>133423997
>I trust the government more than the corporations who try and control the government to push shit like this.
>Corporations are the nexus of human evil in western society.
You are either a shill or 16 years old.

>>133423852
>Calling yourself a strawman
>Or calling someone pointing out a major flaw in your argument a strawman

>You have no choice but to side with the monopolies
>Not just giving money to someone-fucking-else
Gee, you're dense.

>>133423834
T-Mobile throttled customers long before 2015 goy. Stop shilling for the kike companies

>>133422336
> free market
> isps are local monopolies
nice meme

>>133424274
>giving money to someone-fucking-else
>Not knowing what a monopoly is

Noice.

>>133418669
Best answer. This seems to just be some mega corporation fucking over another. The ISP's will not get away with censoring or blocking sites. But the government might, which leans me towards being against net neutrality. Either way, this is a pretty big non-issue for the average internet user, but a massive issue for comcast, netflix, twitch, and google.

>>133423997
>I trust the government more than an indie ISP
>Business is evil
Another reason to oppose "Net Neutrality". It's pro-Marxist.

>>133423997

>Corporations are the nexus of human evil in western society

kys redditor

>http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/7835173/

>http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/6589032/?part=1

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update

http://www.strawpoll.me/13420194

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>single seller = monopoly
>legal entry = no competition

I love that all the "Your interbuttz will cost 400$/mo. because greedy porkies" ignore that exploitative corporations would invite competition from asshole capitalists who'd settle for a paltry 350$/mo. and so on. Regulatory capture is a real thing. The government and the big Telcos are in bed together and profiting from the relationship, nothing is going to change this. Relying on the Feds to punish wrongdoing, be it censorship, throttling, price-gouging, etc. is unrealistic. Government officers and their corporate partners don't go to jail and don't get bankrupted for politically correct crimes. Without NN, the internet provision becomes more lucrative to competitors and innovators. Loss of market share is a scary club the people hold over companies to get what they want, because it's much harder to appease the mob as opposed to a handful of "top men" in DC.

>>133411286
I'm for the concept of net neutrality, but the function of the bill doesn't really fit the aforementioned concept.

All it does is place the internet under the jurisdiction of the FCC, a government entity, which is far from ideal.

>>133424267
>>I trust the government
Sure you can trust the government. Just ask any Native American about it.

>>133411286
I'll just stop using the internet... faggots

>>133423880
>thats not the point, the point is theres not competition.
>well, there is competition, but it's not offering the exact thing I want, so it doesn't count
You decided what you're willing what level of service you're willing to accept - that limits your options, but it's your choice.

I'm sitting happily on a cheap 15/5 service because it's all I need. I have other options available, some the same speed, some faster, some more expensive - but because I have different priorities than you, I chose a different option.

>>133418669
best answer, giving you to build your (((you))) stockpile and visibility.

>>133423668
You can try a corrupt government official against a law such as one in the Bill of Rights, you can't do that with a corporate CEO, fucking moron. I'll start voting democrap just to end these fucking cucksetvatives' kike corporate gravy train and to fucking shit up the country more SO IT FINALLY. FUCKING. COLLAPSES. As far as I'm concerned these free market conservatives will just lined up by NatSoc firing squads right fucking next to the leftists. These cuckservatives pro-Donald faggots are getting dangerous now Fucking stupidity is dangerous.

>>133424181

What exactly is wrong with the current system, though?

>>133424368
>Every business is a monopoly
>There can never be more than one monopoly
>Withholding your funds from said monopolies isn't an opinion because you NEEED your pornhub NOW

Kid, I think it's time you stopped posting and went back to your leddit hugbox with your other "revolutionary" comrades.

>>133411286
>Site Blocking

Because before 2015, I had to use a VPN to browse 4chan, Drudge Report or Infowars....

This is such utter bullshit and to top it off, people what the government of all things to control the internet.

>>133424593
Did their government fuck them? I know some tribes made bad calls but I don't recall anything substantial.

>>133424790
>>Every business is a monopoly
When you change an argument to make it easier to attack is LITERALLY the definition of a straw-man, faggot.

>>133424756
>You can try a corrupt government official against a law such as one in the Bill of Rights, you can't do that with a corporate CEO, fucking moron. I'll start voting democrap just to end these fucking cucksetvatives' kike corporate gravy train and to fucking shit up the country more SO IT FINALLY. FUCKING. COLLAPSES. As far as I'm concerned these free market conservatives will just lined up by NatSoc firing squads right fucking next to the leftists. These cuckservatives pro-Donald faggots are getting dangerous now Fucking stupidity is dangerous.
I am now convinced that you are a complete idiot.

>>133424777
its not 100% "freemarket" so libertarians hate it, even if their are no problems with it.

>>133424563
People need to ask themselves why Obama (who obviously hates america) and companies like Google and Facebook support NN. I'm sure the fact that they have billions of dollars and would get priority from their government buddies over small start ups has nothing to do with it. Small sites with less traffic will get throttled while google and facebook will see unlimited speeds. Yea no conflict there right?

>>133424563
If telecoms stand to benefit so much from Net Neutrality then why do they fight against it?

As long as there are state sanctioned duopolies or monopolies, I feel we should have state mandated net neutrality.

However, I'd prefer to just kick the state out of it entirely, so we can get more competition in the ISP market.

>>133425035

The barrier of entry is far too high in that market for there to even be the illusion of free market, though.

Internet is infrastructure that could literally own the planet and hold everyone at ransom if they wanted to, don't put that much power in the hands of corporations. The media is already owned by like 6 main corporations, don't let that happen to the Internet, support NN. That kind of infrastructure should be controlled and regulated by a government

>>133424843
>Did their government fuck them?
The government broke or rewrote about ever treaty ever made. Why do Indians live on reservations? Because the government owns them. Niggers can't even compete with this BS.

>>133425138
>government passes regulations saying that you can't throttle one company in favor of another one
>this will somehow end up in small companies being throttled in favor of bigger ones

It's amazing how backwards your understanding of this issue is. Net Neutrality is what stops that from happening while taking away NN just puts big companies who can pay "fast lane" fees at an advantage over startups.

>>133425309
exactly, they think some tiny internet provider will spring up out of nowhere and conquer all the other providers because of "competition".

>>133420666

"Oh ((Comcast)) owns your part of the county. We only service the other part. But don't worry because your county has more than one provider!!!

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>I want the government to have more power

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>>133424957
I didn't change my argument. You just have a different understanding of what I'm saying because your hard head has this specific MEME definition of what "Net Neutrality" is.

Has government regulation stopped monopolies from existing? NO.
Will government regulation of the internet stop ISP monopolies from existing? NO.
Then what is the point of "Net Neutrality"? To give the government more power over us, via the new frontier, the internet. The government is impeding on our rights. You are not allowed to browse certain sites or see certain things based on your country's laws. This is "Net Neutrality".

I disagree with this. The internet should be totally free of any and all regulations from any governments. No one should lay claim to the internet except for the ISPs that provide the service and the people that purchase said services. YOU should be allowed to become an ISP, if you so desire. YOU should be able to compete with other ISPs. With "Net Neutrality" this would become an impossibility because you were be forced to adhere to the same strict standards as those monopolies that we both hate so much. You would be gimped from square one.

And you might want to learn the definition of "straw man", while you're at it. It's not just a trendy way of dismissing a valid argument in current year.

>>133425448
Well that wasn't really their government.

>>133425309
>The barrier of entry is far too high in that market for there to even be the illusion of free market
What is the difference between a market being saturated and this?

>>133425490
>implying the government does is fair and impartial. Grow up and face reality. NN is a fuck job. No one should give the government control of it. Next is controlling what sites you visit.

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>>133425638
>I want the monopoly corporations to have more power

>>133411286
COMMON CARRIERS

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>>133425587
Counties with at least 2 providers

What really blows my mind about this "Net Neutrality" thing is it's got Liberals who were just claiming our system is corrupt in a mental backflip because they think it will make things easier for them and it sounds good. It's lip service. "Who doesn't want equality? It's a common sense law XD"

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.

>>133425638
COMMON CARRIERS

>>133425035
If we lose net neutrality remember how it was the fwhee mawkeet libertarians who gave power to the Jewish corporations.

>>133425638
The people of this nation ARE the government.

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>>133425587
Counties with at least 3 providers

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>>133425587
Counties with at least 4 providers

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>>133425804

>>133425638
>I want (((ISPs))) to have the power to curate my internet experience

>>133425721
>It wasn't real socialism
A helicopter awaits.

>>133425409
>The media is already owned by like 6 main corporations.

And WHO let these mergers happen?

The Government

I understand the point of NN but it's just like Communism, it's great on paper but in real life, it's gonna be a major headache. Governments have a HISTORY of fucking with the people. I hate the Major ISPs but this whole fee and site blocking site had never happened before 2015 when NN came about. It's just a bunch of fear mongering. Break up the ISPs if you wanna create a better market.

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>>133425587
Counties with at least 5 providers

>>133425638
>>133425804
These are our choices but it's better if the government has the power here.

>>133424354

>isps are local monopolies

No shit, and who do you think grants them those monopolies?

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>>133425985
If you don't like what a private company is doing, you can pay another private company. If no private company exists that satisfies the wishes you and all the people you agree with on the topic, you can all work together to start your own ISP.
>>133426082
>it's better if the government has the power

>>133425964

You're missing the point, retard.

The relevant measurement would be addresses with more than one option for ISP. My county has like 5-6 of them but that's irrelevant because only one services where I live.

>>133425448
>>Did their government fuck them?
Indians are nomadic tribal people. They don't really have what you might call a government aside from tribal leasers and such. The old chiefs signed and agreed to the treaties because not to do so meant death or prison.

>>133426030
Weak arugument coming from you faggot, considering you support free market.

>>133413156
COMMON CARRIERS

(I'm going to keep repeating this until everyone knows why both sides of this hook nosed, handwringing "argument" are a complete state and corporate scam.)

>>133411286
This just pisses me off. The Internet has brought on a new age. An age where everyone are connected. An age where all knowledge, ideas, media etc can be shared world wide. Why would anyone want to limit and censor that? Give me one good reason for it

>>133426161

"Oh I'll get my friends and we'll just come up with the millions of dollars required to lay the infrastructure for an IP now let me get back to eating my paint chips."

>>133426030
This. We just sit there and watch as these huge corporations make merger after fucking merger, as if that isn't a fucking monopoly.

Anyone else asked for internet and been referred to some other company? "We don't really cover that region" is a lie. Why would they have a station there and NOT provide service in that location? They're being bought out or are already owned.

>>133411286
i want to enter the dragon

>>133426297
>I lack ambition and ability and want the nanny state to do things for me
ftfy

Net Neutrality didn't exist before 2015 and none of the dystopian bullshit libtards are scaremonging with ever happened.

Germany has Net Neutrality and they block thousands of conservative websites.

Net Neutrality takes the control of the internet away from multiple competing private companies and gives it to the government.

Confirmed to support net neutrality: Obama, Clinton, Soros, Microsoft, Google, Reddit, Facebook. Really makes you think.

Even Comcast supports net neutrality (because it hurts small competitors), unlike what leftist shills will have you believe.

>>133426288
Support NN Anon.
You can trust the Government, Google and Facebook to play nice.

>>133426288
CUZ FREEEEE MARKET HUUUUUUUUR.

>>133425691
>You are not allowed to browse certain sites or see certain things based on your country's laws. This is "Net Neutrality".
This is complete BS, and is fundamentally incompatible with the idea of Net Neutrality. It's not some government firewall that gets placed over the internet to block certain forms of traffic. It just means that ISPs can't censor or throttle packets arbitrarily based on their source and destination.

You're trying to sell this meme that Net Neutrality allows the government to censor internet traffic, but that is a lie and would require there to be no NN for it to even happen in the first place.