Question for Idenitarians: Do you believe in in racial superiority

>>133287100
White nations for white people.

>>133287100

They are as reactionary as any other movement that proclaims itself to be about "identity".

It is understandable, but a critical person will ask himself why these movements exclusively focus on what they consider to be problems.

In effect it is just subversion to soften the image of fascism. Martin Sellner used to be a hardcore neo-nazi, in one of the videos with Lauren Southern he even proclaims "we are not even nationalists". Of course, people like Lauren Southern buy it because they are desperate to create the narrative of identitarian movements as being separate from fascist movements of the past.

As someone who is not on your side, you would be silly to dismiss these movements as simply anti-immigration.

>>133287100
>>133287100
You re retard of unimaginable proportions.
Identitarians believe in identity aka european idenity and appose immigration most of which in gonna be african not islamic in the comming years and if you thought cologne was bad then oh boy wait for what our friends down south have to say.

>>133288195

Man your a beta cuck whi cares how immigration is stopped as long as it is

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>>133287100
Against non-European immigration outside of Northwest and Baltics no matter how good or bad. DNA based citizenship NOW!
>superiority question
Non-issue

>>133287100

Separation of races. I don't see a reason to rank the races in a hierarchy necessary. IQ differences are obvious but there are other differences too.

>>133288195

>exclusively focus on what they consider to be problems.

What "problem"?

>>133287100
I dont believe in racial superiority. I do believe in the inferiority of islam as an ideology and that blacks are poison for a society.
The multicult eventually leads to civil war.

Its short termism at its worst.

>>133287100
>racial superiority and the separation of races,
You can believe in one of those and not the other.

>>133287100
Multiple raves in a country are fine, so long as they adhere to the same FOUNDATIONAL culture values. If there is no shared base, the society is fractured and conflict arises.

>>133288731

Immigration etc

Like I said, it's understandable, but the image Martin Sellner wants to convey is simply propaganda. Everyone in Identity Evropa is a (white) nationalist, yet he goes on video with Lauren Southern and proclaims "we are not even nationalist".

>>133288861

I agree in some sense, but it depends on how you view it. Racial superiority of Europeans is undeniable, but I don't believe in complete separation of races. Though I've yet to find an argument for the separation of races that does not hinge on the idea of racial superiority. In essence, it would impossible to construct white nationalism if Europeans were not successful.

>>133287100

Europe for Europeans.

>>133287100
Not superiority, but separation.
Remember that we have three levels of identity: local, national, of civilization.
So a guy born in Genoa is a Ligurian, an Italian and an European. If he's from Barcellona he's a Catalan, a Spaniard/Hiberic and an European.
The local identity is the less important, nation much more, civilization fundamental.

>>133287100
I believe every nation should have the people of their nation. the rest can get da fuq out

>>133287100
Their is racial superiority, that's an unspoken fact of life.

Mainly western culture won't survive without white people, so to keep western civilization pure and true, white people must live on.

I'm no white nationalist, more of a realist in the sense that western civilization is on the brink of collapse because of how far we've let people go.

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>>133289900
>>133289910
pretty much this

>>133289561

>"we are not even nationalist"

What do you think he means by that? And can you remember what video that was?

>>133287100
I believe that Africa should be for Africans.
Asia should be for Asians.
And Europe should be for Europeans.

I'm italian, and we are facing this migrant crisis the most, even if we had no terror attacks.

Yes, i believe in separation of races. Racial superiority exist, but it's not written in nature: it should be achieved via scientific, cultural or violent methods. And i think any race organized enough with a good cultural background can achieve.

I'm all for "White nation for white people" and i am working actively in my community to destroy that "white guilt" we have because we don't want to get raped.

>>133287100
All non-Irish need to GTFO

>>133290754
You're one of the few country's that hasn't been hit that hard in Europe.

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>>133290229
Well, we can consider ourselves civilizationist.
We need to work together as europeans, like /pol/ has flag from every white nation.
Now local identities are disappearing, nations are under siege, and our civilization is posing the seed of self-destruction. We declared war to the force destroying us, not between ourselves.

>>133291154
Fuck that. Nativism and only nativism.

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>>133290996
They have been hit hard for centuries.

>>133289900
Initially GI was all about NWEs. Sucks some cucked out. I don't want any Non-Germanics in Germany under any sauce. It's the same dissolution of the German blood and nation like any other

>>133291154
Chaos is that you?

>>133291455
With just a few more Muslims we might be able to eradicate them.

>>133291712
I don't like italian identitarians.
Faggots

>>133287100
I kind of identify with identitarian stuff. I'm not so much for racial /superiority/ as i am for racial /separation/.

I think everyone would be better off if we all kept to our own ethnic/cultural backgrounds, but shared/traded ideas/inventions/technology/etc. I believe every race has their own pros and cons that they bring to the table but physically we should be separated

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>>133291698
I didn't say that Italians are entitled to substitute native Germans, only that we need to form a common movement and work together against the globalists.

>>133291923
Why?

>>133292164
You have the AFD (alliance for peace and freedom) for this.
Identitarianism doesn't have an ideology thus is incomplete.

>>133292164
Honestly won't work as long as we tolerate non-Germanics in our lands. There is a wog issue in Australia, Germany and even Nordic nations. How can we work together, if our goal is to deport your diasporas?

>>133292324
We are not a party. We influence parties from the outside.

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>>133291455
Their language has been hit over time by the advancement of civilization. Blame the British for colonizing them, not non-European migrants.

>>133292384
our goal is to retake them

>>133292270
(I'm italian)
Because we have both CasaPound (if you're a soft pussy)
And Forza Nuova (if you're a tough guy)
Identitarian Generation will only divide further the nationalist scene.
Also identitarians do not adress the JQ and , here in france work with the JDL (jewish defense league)

>>133290229

I think it has a dual message. I think it would be close to what this person is describing
>>133291154

but it also sends a message that they are simply against the current wave of illegal immigration into Europe, and that their focus is simply one of civil duty.

It is brilliant, Martin Sneller is a very intelligent man I must admit. I'm just surprised by the stupidity of the left. They could have linked Lauren Southern to neo-Nazism due to Martin Sellner's past, but they simply are unaware of the connection that are easy to find.

And I'm not using neo-Nazi as an exaggeration here, it blows my mind how the left haven't used this to nail Lauren Southern as a white nationalist apologist.

>>133292469
That's the problem

>>133292521
Look at what's happening, Boldrini and Faino going full antifa , does GI made a statement ?
Damn even Salvini (which is too soft imo) said that those laws are anticonstitutional

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I believe I have a right to be proud of my people,their background, and rich history. The European people are so unique and interesting in the history of mankind and the world. We have literally changed the destiny of mankind. What we have accomplished in the past 500 years brought humanity from the iron age to space faring. We would literally be considered gods if we went back in time 200 years. I'd like to be able to acknowledge this without being accused of racism. In fact fuck them that word no longer means anything. #proudtobewhite

>>133292588
Forzanuova is shit and casapound has the wrong methods, if anything GI will get more people to become conservatives and nationalists.

>>133287100
Europe for Europeans.
Islam a shit.
Everyone else needs to gtfo of Europe.
Other than that I don't care.

>>133292615

The left has been calling her "alt-right" even before she started hanging out with GI. So I don't know what else they could throw at her that would have any effect.

I notice that someone has scrubbed Sellner's neo-Nazi past from his Wikipedia page. It used to be there.

>>133292991
Lol no they'll jus call you nazis

>>133292991
>ForzaNuova is shit
Spotted the Antifa

>>133287100
Superiority isn't an issue.
The problem is that black people and muslims, who don't share a culture or even history with white people, think they can run our show. That they can decide what's best for us. What's good for us, and what's bad.
They believe they have been wronged by white people, but they won't go to black or islamic countries.
They sincerely believe that they can have all the glory and all the progress of white people without the actual white people having a say in it.

Now exchange black and muslim for Jewish, and it stops being Identitarian. Or at least, that's what they'll have you believe.
Funny, isn't it. That Jews have a homeland that's as wealthy and as technologically advanced as Western nations, but they refuse to go there.

Maybe they understand.
Jews were never the chosen people.
They abandoned that when they left the Garden of Eden and bit another one of the devil's apples.

>>133293364
Ma dai porcodio sono dei 50enni che fanno il saluto romano, ma dove vuoi andare con quella gente?

>>133287400
this basically

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>>133293008
European ethnic states for pureblooded natives*

Pan-Europeansm is THE SUBVERSION. That's how USA went from 80% Anglo to 5%

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>>133287100
I belive in european racial superiority
And yes, seperation of races, niggers, asians, indians, arabs, aborginials (these i call neanderthals, because they are clearly some sub neanderthal type or some shit that hasnt evolved since cavemen) are all different races
Bird have alot of species right? They are not "all equal", in phsyical features, behaviour, so does in humans.

>>133293030

You are right, but I think the term "alt-right" still has some mysticism around it for the people who write in leftist media, they are not entirely sure who to pin the term on. They have slowly realized that the alt-right is a euphemism for white nationalism, but they still use it in a broader sense, e.g describing "Kekistan" as an alt-right movement.

Are you the Finnish guy who "defends" Lauren Southern etc?

>>133293008
Heh.

Germany for Germans.
France for the French.
Spain for the Spanish.
Italy for the Italians.
Poland for the Polish.
The Netherlands for the Dutch.
None of them for the (((Europeans))).

Brexit had a reason, Anglo. Try not to forget it.

>>133293456
Almeno capiscono cio che sta succedendo all'Italia.
La forma sarà pure sbagliata ma l'idea c'è.
E poi ci sono anche giovani nella sezione Lotta studentesca

>>133293769
We left to keep the shitskins everyone was letting in, why should we care about whites moving between white nations?

>>133293954
*keep the shitskins everyone was letting in out

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>>133287400
fpbp
Some believe in racial superiority, some don't but still want the races separated for a myriad of reasons.
Me personally, I believe in white superiority in terms of just the civilizations they build are superior in every measure.
The only other group that's even close are East Asians and they basically copycatted everything that whites have made.
Socially they're still pretty fucked though. I have two friends living in Japan and they make it sound like an insect colony beehive society where everyone is depressed.

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>>133293756
Yes. But on topic, are you suggesting Sellner is going for some kind of pan-Europeanism? To me it seems like he is happily working with other Europeans now out of necessity to combat the outside hordes, but if that problem was solved he would go back to nationalism.

>>133293941
ma lo so e non lo metto in dubbio, son convinto che abbiano buone intenzioni ma il modo non è vincente, fare poiltica è come vendere un prodotto e forza nuova fa schifo nel marketing.

>>133287100
When I say nigger, OP, I mean all non-whites because at the end of the day they're all animals compared to white people.

>>133294127
Questo te lo concedo.
All'Italiano media fa pure paura.
Tanto, essendo apertamente fascisti non si va piu da nessuna parte.
La Meloni a quanto sta ?

>>133292588
>>133292631
So we both divide the nationalist scene and are a problem not being a party, it has sense.
We are against the use of old fascist symbols because the only thing they do is to scare people and lock ourselves in old disputes about Mussolini and if the train were in time, or about Holocaust in the case of Germany. We don't give a fuck about Holocaust, Danzig or building an Italian Empire, we are in 2017 and the problems are globalization, immigration and the destruction of our communities. Let's build a new right from scratch instead of raping the corpse of Mussolini
>>133294398
5% Meloni, 15% Salvini... we need to destroy 5cucks

>>133294398
sta a briciole. Dio ma ti rendi conto che salvini è quello piu di destra?
che disastro

>>133287100
I acknowledge race IQ differences and that we should stop accepting other races. But that's more based on them having lower productivity, higher crime rates and relying on welfare.

>>133294098
Why would we want a pan European anything? We saw how the European Union failed at it.

>>133293769
Exactly. Nativism and only nativism.

>>133294509
Salvini+Meloni fanno il 20% e stiamo iniziando a governare città ultracomuniste come GENOVA (se non ne capite la portata non siete italiani).
Comunque più risultati della maggior parte dei nostri vicini... forse l'Austria ci batterà in senso positivo con le politiche

>>133294735
We are fiercely against the EU.

>>133287100
literally I just see anything from the quran as an idea i want less of in my life. They could all drop the muhammed dick-sucking and come and I would be totally fine with that. Black brown or yellow you can be made into a productive member of society same as me.

>>133288195
>focuses only on problems
I think that's bullshit, and an engineered perception by leftists.

>>133288195
IE is a pan-European movement. They support an EU type structure. Nationalism is dead in Europe unless you're talking about the UK or Europe A Nation (which is very popular among youth)

Le Pen protectionism doesn't work. Europe a Nation is the solution, and the EU is the best way to create a National Socialist Europe.

>>133294922
It just seems some people in the Alt-Right want some Pan-European or Pan-Germanic Union.

>>133294811
certo che ne capisco l'importanza ma non mi fido della destra italiana, noi di GI proveremo a fare la differenza. Te lo prometto.

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>>133294502
You divide the nationalist scene in Italy because you don't propose a complete alternative.
You speak about the great replacement but do not name who is behind

You fail to understand that what is happening was predicted by both Hitler and Mussolini
And that we are fighting the same ennemies as before.

Also GI has ties to jewish groups (LDJ/JDL)

>>133295227
lel ne faccio parte anche io, sezione veneta

>>133295354
Io lombardia, 4chan è un'ottima piattaforma per spargere il nostro messaggio

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>>133295114
Most people do. Richard Spencer, Identity Europa, Identitarian. etc. all want a united ethnic European Empire similar to what Hitler was talking about post-1940.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukwA--tIokg
Hitler Teaching What Is Europe

Americans don't understand that post Napoleonic nationalism has beaten the shit out of Europeans and hasn't served them whatsoever. Europe A Nation is the solution, and the EU needs a major ass reconstruction. Introducing racial laws and ditching fiat currency for starters. There also must be migration caps between the regions, at least for a generation or two.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-AjVAuqGms
Europe A Nation

>>133295289

How are they supposed to start ranting about Jews in countries with stringent hate speech laws, genius?

>>133295289
But why divide? You can be GI and vote Forza Nuova without problems. We do activism, and for activism you need a clean face.
>>133295525
Sbaglio o la sezione veneta è un po' in pausa? Non abbiamo fatto nulla ultimamente... ok che siamo tutti concentrati su Defend Europe but still

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>>133295588
Not being a shabbo goy is a start

>>133295763
Io non conosco nessuno al di fuori della Lombardia, sicuramente dopo l'estate faremo qualcosa anche assieme essendo abbastanza vicini, specialmente per ius soli e porcate varie.

>>133295763
In France GI will tell you to fuck off if you have ties with the "bad" goys

>>133287100
I believe East-Asians and whites are equal, and in some areas East-Asians are even better than whites.
But I think that black people and arabs are inferior to the rest of the world. Just look at their countries.

>>133296049
jesus why wont u get it, we dont have anything against these so called bad goys but the moment you take those people in you give weapons to the media to attack us.. its a stategic decision. You have to be smart or you are gonna get fucked and becoe irrelevant like FN

>>133294735
Sod off anglo scum

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>>133296049
I don't blame them for carefully crafting their message.

The NSDAP didn't start national campaigns of antisemitism until 1930. They took the first actions against the kikes (N laws) 18 months after coming to power. I would argue one of the greatest successes of the NSDAP was that they drew out attacks from the kikes and then counterattacked 100 times harder. Everything could then be justified even in the eyes of cowards or shabbos.

Attack a kike and the inbreds swarm you. Counter a kike and they got bogged down by squabbling with each other.

>>133287100
I think every race believes in the superiority of their race, and some of these things are quantifiable.

ie. Asians having higher IQ or lower crime rates than whites. Blacks having more exceptional athletic talent (is this true?) yet less intelligence.

I think it can be separated out, and any healthy nationalist or identitarian understands they just want the best for their people. If a member of another race wants the best for their people, that's respectable and fine. They promote races living unequal but in harmony vs equal and in chaos/mixing.

>>133288195
What is so wrong about Fascism? Most identitarian's and white nationalists are also fascists, it goes hand in hand. I really don't think they are trying to "hide" it...maybe in Europe, but here in the US its hand in hand.

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>>133296049
France has the Bloc and an infinite list of different kind of rights, it's a bit different probably... still you can't be a GI activist and dress as an SS
The Turin section is 1488 but well hidden
>>133296171
Yes, but japanese stays in Japan and we stay in Europe
I tolerate chinese because they are far better than muslims, but fuck them too, they have a totally different work ethic and I don't want their mafia

>>133288829
Are you part of an Identitarian group, or are you just giving your personal opinion? I'm just asking, because I have some other questions for Identitarians.

What's the identitarians' opinions over the problems of white people outisde Europe (which are very similar)?

>>133294098

Well I think it would be fair to say that most people who are into racialist organizations like Identity Evropa are for a sort of pan-European identity in an international perspective but also nationalist in the standard definition of the word. I'm not sure if these two "identities" can survive in a long-term, but this relates more to my own theory on how multiple identities tends to gravitate one way or the other.

Americans like Richard Spencer suffer from this. During his speech at Richmond for example he proclaimed how "you" (as in the white people of America) are the descents of the Roman Empire. Some Italian who believes the Roman culture is part of his national identity probably would have a problem with someone of Anglo-Saxon ancestry proclaiming that everyone who is white are the descendants of Roman rulers. And rightly so as it destroys the concept of national identity.
This is an American thing however.

For Europeans I suspect the pan-European idea will be more accepted in countries that have an interest to elevate their own status as part of a "greater" story, while nations with strong national identities not based on reactionary movements will gravitate towards nationalism proper.

>>133296392
I see what you mean.
No retarded skinheads and
Look sharp so it isn't another NordFront tier fail.

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>>133296819
>still you can't be a GI activist and dress as an SS.
To be fair they probably don't allow anyone to RP as a Napoleonite either.

I understand why people that have just discovered the JQ want that to be the only topic, because it's really the only topic that matters, but just because you see your enemy on the hill doesn't mean you death charge him. You force a few off the sides and wear them down, once the rout is guaranteed you do what Europeans do best.

>>133295081
I agree, I think there's three ways of creating a NS nation in Europe actually:
1- Use the EU, might be quite hard to do unless some genius rises up and pulls some political tricks.
2- Start low by declaring a tiny indenpendant state somewhere, and gaining territories diplomatically (by using independentists groups) or by force.
3- Start low by creating Europe-wide groups that eventually become de-facto nations. I believe that this is what GI is trying to do.

>>133297197
The funny thing is that skinhead now are antifas, our local antifa violent cell is full of bald guys that dress black
>>133297238
We attack Soros but he's mainstream, even jews hate him
He really looks like a villain from a Bond movie

>>133297505
3: Visengrad, Alpe-Adria, Intermarium.
Old right wing parties are already building based smaller EUs.

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>>133297505
I still believe Mosley was right. That there will be a mass awakening of European identity and it will 'come in a great wave' .. I believe GI is working hard for this mass awakening of identity and that's why I support them. I'll shill this old speech one more time so other people watch it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-AjVAuqGms

>>133297701
What is your stance on homosexuality ?

>>133287100
>Do you believe in in racial superiority and the separation of races
just doing whats necessary to make sure the democraphics dont change or barely is enough no need to do extreme segregation

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>>133297970
Dunno, but we have an anti-feminist women group that centers about making children so it probably isn't very accepted

>>133297950
He never meant free movement and destruction of the ethnic states. Heck, there are fucking disaporas ITT LARPing as nationalists. Besides, many memelords would call him MUH D&C (see >>133293501) on what European is.

>>133297950
Mosley convinced me into joining this movement

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>>133298177
Yes, the girls in our movement are the sweetest and smartest chicks ive ever met. I wish we could clone them.

>>133298177
I just checked your fb, how comes that you have half the likes of FN ?
Are you bigger than CasaPound ? Just to get an idea.

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>>133287100
i don't believe we are intrinsically superior i just want Europeans to be the dominant majority in our own homelands. i have no qualms with limited migration but i feel like the levels we are having at the moment are just too much. it is getting to the point where it is having a negative affect on the fabric of European nations and disrupting our social cohesion.

i will say this however, for the last 600 years or so Europeans have shown to be the most successful peoples across the globe. almost everything that is vital to modern life was either invented or improved upon immensely by us. modern medicine, modern travel, computers, space travel, fine arts, industry, music, fashion, cinema, video games, the internet...i could go on. everything the world uses nowadays is in large part down to our accomplishments yet we face nothing but contempt and condemnation for acts that each and every race and ethnic group has committed throughout history.

in this regard i hold us to be superior; because of what we have achieved, not because of the colour of our skin

>>133287100

I believe in a multicultural world, instead of a multicultural nation. That's about all.

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>>133298429
After WWII Mosley said there should be migration caps between regions for a few generations but the ultimate outcome should eventually be a European master race, similar to what happened in America before 1965. This speech was before commercial air travel don't forget.

There were plenty of Europeans that wanted Russians to be part of this nation. Leon Degrelle, a Belgian, asserted at every opportunity that Eastern Europe must be a vital component of the National Socialist European Empire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nKEKhgGsAI
Leon Degrelle - The Epic Story of the Waffen SS

(one of the bravest and most selfless men of the 20th century)

>>133287100
>or is it just anti-Islamic immigration?
for me its the fact that every single country on the planet hates muslims. I mean you really don't need to have it spelled out any clearer than that do you? christians hate them, buddhists hate them, atheists hate them. Sit back and ask yourself this question, what THE FUCK would I have to do to get a fucking BUDDHIST to hate me? it would have to be pretty fucking bad right?

>>133299066
He talks about the slavs and a united Europe lots in this video.

>>133289561
>but I don't believe in complete separation of races
Why the fuck not?

>>133298429
"Russian" in Russian doesn't even mean ethnicity like it does in English. Ethnic Russian nationalism doesn't even exist.

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>>133299066
Genocidal idiocy.
>late Mosley
>intellectually relevant

Let's be real, there's no uprgrade from pure Celtic-Germanic
>American master race

>>133299332
Ethnic Russia nationalism does exist and you go to prison for it.

>>133298177
Hey that's a Nice (the city) flag up there! GI are heavily implanted there, if I recall correctly?

>>133298704
I dunno about the Italian branch but yeah GI has a BIG presence on social networks, which makes me think that their size is way underestimated by a lot of people. Brings me hope, really.

>>133299332
There are two different word For ethnic Russian and Russian citizen
Something like Russkie-Rossijia, don't remember the words

>>133299520
I said pre-1965 and you know it. We'll deal with the Jewish question and racial laws MUST be enacted into the core constitution of Europe. This is a given.

Address this >>133299332

>>133299624
Ethnic Russian = Rus, Rusic, Russky(Russkie plural)
(((Russian national))) - (ethnic Russians are racist and use it as a slur) - Rossiyanin, Rossiyanecz

>>133299605
I was talking about Forza Nuova not Front national lol

>>133298704
Still small bit we grow

>>133299624
So how many militants do you have in Italy ?

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>>133287100
Don't Genocide us pls
t. Idenitarians

>>133299838
>>133299903
Ok are you in the south too ?

>>133299903
Dunno, no more than 500 for sure

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>>133299701
Fuck "Europe". Let me be frank, there is a heavy centuries anti-Southern bias in Northwestern, Northeastern and Central Slavic Europe that won't go away. And quite frankly shouldn't for the sake of preservation

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>>133299753
>>133299582
I don't blame Russians for not wanting to give up any power to the EU. You just watched the American puppet EU install Jew President Valtzman and Jew Prime Minister Groysman.

We're talking about something entirely different than the EU. Europe A Nation. Hitler came to appreciate the slavs as the war dragged on, and you've all more than proven yourselves since WWII. I'll think this one more time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukwA--tIokg

>>133298837
this 100 times. I will copy this for future use

>>133300055
>I'll think

>>133300052
A mild eugenics program can solve this.

>>133300021
The southern section has seceeded in an autistic neopagan movement, Azione Identitaria, but they are quattro gatti

>>133300055
Hitler accepted part Jews in. Fuck Hitler. Alfred One Drop Rule Full Purity Rosenberg is our guy. As far as the modern Russian "state" goes it's that very interesting case when EU, USA, Ukrainian government and Russian government all are the enemy of the ethnic Russians. (((Russian government))) interests are not the interests of the ethnic Russians.

Very much alike to the Soviet Union, Russian Federation does not represent the interest of the ethnic Russians. Nor the said Federation is run by them.

"At the first free and honest elections they'll vote for the nationalists and hang us all" - Armenian Jew Margarita Simonyan, RT director

The Russian Federation is a legal state successor of the USSR and thusly illegitimate. Unless Russian Federation renounces every legal connection and historical connection to the USSR it's pretty much a non-country.

Putin is a president of untermenschen.

The Russian Federarion is like welfare state taken to ethnic collectivist level - taxes from ethnic Russian areas go to feed gook and mudslime republics.

Dropping them off and developing slowly is the only way. Russia has no man power or financial resources for imperial ambition(nor a public desire for it for that matter). Russians want to live in peaceful homogenous country, where they are not afraid for tomorrow fiscal stability and their kids safety. There is no money for quality healthcare, yet public expensive shows like Olympics and FIFA are thrown.

There are only two ways - peaceful ethnic balkanisation on model of Czechoslovakia and steady growth like in Poland and Czech Republic, or another financially atrocious clusterfuck of break away like happened with the USSR.

>>133292866
>the iron age ended 500 years ago
literal nigger, please kill yourself

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>>133300184
They just shouldn't be allowed to settle in Slavic, Baltic and Germanic Europe. Anti-Med/Balkan bias is common in aforementioned countries and their nationalist groups, and that doesn't really matter. Ethnic states for everyone. For starters we deport all non-Europeans including gypsies and jews. Then we deport all non-Germanics from Germanics lands. Then Meds, if they like, start denegrofication eugenics programs to prevent people with Sub-Saharan and North African admixture from breeding. Then Balkanites, Ukrainians and Romanians, if they like start eugenics programs to eliminate people with cigan and west Asian admixtures. If done, Europe is pure

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>>133300052
>>133300184
I thought this was the moor/nigger map my bad. I don't care about blue eyes and blonde hair although they should be protected. Perhaps we should set bottom limits and do whatever it takes to keep a certain percentage of the population red/blonde/blue/green etc. A diversity program everyone could get behind.

>>133287100
Unironic Nat Soc here, not alt right.

Racial superiority is a qualitative assessment, but it's not necessarily arbitrary.

Whites are superior of course, by all acceptable connotations of the word, but technically you can't really say this in a fully objective way. I can't speak for the alt right, but personally I think every race should have their own ideal to strive towards. Ours was Aryans, they may have others.


The people who are only anti muslim immigration are the "alt lite". They are the typical jewish funded "based Israel" types.

>>133287100
White Power

>>133295081
ah ha ha ha
kill yourself you fucking ant

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>>133300429
Okay, so Europe A Nation but instead of my mild caps on migration you would have very low caps on migration between regions?

I'd vote for you. In 5,000 years i'll get my European master race.

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>>133287400
>white nations for white people
>american

>>133300798
>implying another nation is a mongrelized "free-for-all"
>brazilian

>>133300798
>right of conquest is honorable and right when white people do it
>right of conquest is shitty and destructive when brown people do it
fucking steppeniggers, man. no sense of self-awareness whatsoever. they're like goddam automatons, there's no critical thought. they just parrot whatever self-aggrandizing tribal nonsense appeals to them and think they're being somehow objective or scientific.

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>>133300689
>>133300429
But yeah as for blue eyes and blonde hair this guy is just as European as any of the aryans in my family. I understand why someone wouldn't want it to be bred out though of course.

I just believe that western values are the pinnacle of thought, be it due to other cultures not having enough time to develop or not. No other (probably) place has created a society so strongly based on free thought. And so strong standards on immigration and assimilation should be promoted by any self respecting nation, if not these values will be subverted by other more barbaric ones.

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>>133301207
>>133300429
Any of these types need to be removed of course. Obviously not European.

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>>133301368
Perhaps we can turn Israel into a multicult homeland for these European half breeds, and everyone will be better off.

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>>133301158
>>133301162
>not realizing that the history of the entire american continent is not of the white nation because since the colonization there where ppl from all backgrounds

>>133299189

It elevates race to a position I don't think it has unless you evoke mysticism and esotericism as part of your ideology.

There are sound arguments to be made on race as it relates to culture and civilization, but on an individual level these things are harder to judge.

From a pragmatic standpoint, an absolute purist position on this question just becomes comical. The idea that you are going to tell the Chinese in Canada they can't live their because of their race for example without some kind of reaction from China or extermination is just an example of questions that people who take these stances rarely have an answer to.

>>133300689
Instead of immigration, we must bury the concept altogether. DNA based citizenship within the subracial group only. A multiracial society is just some bizarre perversion dreamt up in the minds of marxists with sad childhoods and literal rootless jews (not even a conspiracy, look up the ethnicities), biological organism following their biological perogative when inserted into it is not strange or surprising. You guys act like Brazil, USA, Russian Federation and South Africa don't exist. Population groups compete for resources; bringing a bunch of different subspecies of primate into one administrative region and saying "okay, you're a country now" doesn't change that.

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>>133301207
You sure?

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>>133287100
Identitarians -> Nationalists -> Supremacists

Literally nothing wrong with the first two, at all.

>>133301749
>America is over 90% white from inception until post 1965, when the gates were opened for non-Europeans to be introduced

>Brazilians larping as historians without running his own bullshit through a search engine first

>believing (((Emma Lazarus's))) "New Colossus" poem

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>>133301874
I don't have a problem with this. I'm fine with 98% European if the 2% purity spiral causes more damage than good. Sure we should take steps to lower this percentage over time, and of course remove all the half breeds/niggers/kikes immediately.

Superiority doesn't have much to do with it although that is an easy case to make, survival more like it. We're quickly losing options day by day.

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>>133295531

National Socialism only works on a national level. Were Nationalists, youre anti-nationalist. Youre a communist subvert, or a useful idiot. What you describe is being pushed by communists, and jews, as a means of breaking our momentum. They want us to fight about "communism in one country" or "global communism". Your ideology is pushed by Dugin, who hates whites, and says they will lose. It also includes parts of Asia, india, etc.

Eventually, we will treat you as the traitors you are. Put on your nazbol flag, lefty/pol/. This is how I know youre a shill, and not just an idiot. Youre using the Nationalist flag, when you hate nationalism, you hate individual cultures, you hate the idea of Germans controlling Germany, and Norwegians controlling France. Youre arguing for communism, your ideology also bans private property. You are a jew, white or actual.

>>133302042
I mean I agree, feels pretty bold to say so when you're on pol/.

>>133287400
56% doesnt count famalam

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>>133302246
>America is over 90% white from inception until post 1965
>America was 100% native american until 1512
>chinaman settled in US since the very beggining.

>>133301829
That's means we can expel all the Russians (basically criminals and parasites living on welfare) from med countries?

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>>133302332
Europe A Nation. I'm literally quoting the man who created National Socialism, and the most prominent Anglo Fascist who considered Fascism and National Socialism to be the same thing. You're dead wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukwA--tIokg
Hitler Teaching What Is Europe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-AjVAuqGms
Europe A Nation

People forget that Hitler considered Germany to be 99.5% German. Of course there plenty of families mixed with slavs/magyar/etc. and this didn't bother him one bit. If Hitler was alive today I am 100% positive he would say Europe A Nation, from the Rockies to the Urals, but deport every last mud/chink/ kike first.

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>>133302332
>your ideology also bans private property
You're a pseudo-intellectual. Dugin has zero influence outside of Russia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Program#The_25-point_Program_of_the_NSDAP

>>133302331
Survival is not having any admixture
>purity spiral
There is only impurity spiral. Besides, nativism and ETHNOnationalism are the only way to halt foreign influence at bay. Quarter Jew, 1/16 Persian, 1/64 Sioux, 1/512 negro; doesn't matter. Bloodline of ancestors is corrupted and genetic pollution is done. Moreover, they will forever carry the genetic memory of high racial treason. You are not ENTITLED to my lands, if your lineage is not like my mine

>>133302690
>Native Americans would be 0% if it were just about anyone else who landed on those shores
>Portuguese didn't have the balls either

>The infamous Chinaman in Cali meme begins with them working on railroads, they represented a fraction of 1% during that period

Huh, I guess we were 80% at the beginning, then peaked up to 90%. Then the flood gates opened

Check out those asians senpai

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_racial_and_ethnic_demographics_of_the_United_States

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>>133300798
There are still a few of us that are Hwyte. Unlike Brazil.

>>133303119
>>133303195
I wonder how many of you ppl would pass the 1 drop rule if a DNA test was mandatory to everybody.

If Southern didnt pass, something tells me most ppl woundt either.

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>>133302967
Russians are the most mongrel race in Europe, this doesn't bother me and it shouldn't bother you. You're just as European as the rest of us and have more than proved your intellectual capabilities, especially in the 1960-80's.

Ethnic Russian nationalism doesn't even exist in Russia. Europe A Nation. We'll put caps on migration between the regions. Deal?

>>133303329
>1 drop rule

That's what demographics are based on. These take into account that if a person is mixed with anything, they do not count as white, and count as the other. If mixed beyond recognition, then the latest demographics have a dedicated section called "mixed". So what is white is accounted for. I find it hard to believe Brazil does things too differently.

I don't know what you mean by southern. Dixie?

>>133303586
Lauren Southern...

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>>133303586
White is a Jewish term invented in America in the 1960's. European is the proper term.

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>>133303333
>Russians are the most mongrel race in Europe
That would be Greeks. gypsy, negroid, australoid, turkic and caucasus admixtures

Russians seldom have some Finnic to them just like Nords
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002929707000250

The American Journal of Human Genetics (Volume 82, Issue 1, 10 January 2008, p. 236-250)
>Ethnic Russian nationalism doesn't even exist in Russia
It does moron and Putin is afraid of it the most
>We'll put caps on migration between the regions.
We don't have migration, LARPer

>>133303329
There is European and not European. People like Johny Deep or Lauren are not White. Once a traitor to race - traitor forever

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>>133303745
I'm absolutely certain that the US demographics counts her as 'white'.


>>133303844
this

>>133304003
That is precisely the point.

She didnt past the DNA testand still, got counted as white.

Its more about your phenotipical traits than anything t.b.h.

>>133303851
Yeah you're not wrong but i'm not going to let a few million halfbreeds stop the other 98% of us from presenting an outward face to the world.

Also if we're honest Russia doesn't have migration for obvious reasons. You have a GDP lower than Canada, but you will be a first world nation within the next few decades.

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>>133303844

>White is a Jewish term invented in America in the 1960's.

Hurrrrr durrrr

>>133304426
I'll find the word used per year graph give me a minute.

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>>133304426
>>133304528
It's almost identical to this one.

>>133304317
Russia has 500k Western European residents (me included), 5 million subhuman chink illegals and 20 million central asian migrants. Even local Med trouble makers (nationalist don't like) known as Pontic Greeks

What I'm saying that only 100% genetic Northwestern Europeans should be able to hold citinzeship in Germanic Europe. It's our ancestral lands

>>133304686
>Med trouble makers

Says the Russian.

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>>133304686
>What I'm saying that only 100% genetic Northwestern Europeans should be able to hold citinzeship in Germanic Europe. It's our ancestral lands
Do you believe this is achievable? Or is your argument that it's impossible? Honestly Russia is so large and has so many people that an ethnic nationalist Russia working in partnership with Europe (the nation) would be just as fine in my books.

>>133304576
>>133304426
I can't find it. I'm 99% sure I have a meme for this though so i'll keep looking.

>>133305017
>Do you believe this is achievable
Yes, because that's what the average Germanic from mainlan is - 100% NWE. Basically it's just repatriating the immigrants and few Jew-admixed abominations that passed Nuremberg Laws and didn't die in WWII. German politicians actually tried to get it done in the 1980s to bar PIGS from the EU

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And they don't stop comin'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWR8VLHRtEk

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>>133305291
So a third reich tier state? With irredentism and all the rest? I believe this is 100% off the table for obvious reasons, pic related hasn't changed, Europe A Nation can still be done if we act fast.

>>133287100
I don't believe in racial superiority but I do believe in racial differences and that we must protect our own kind just as you would put your family first without necessarily believing they were better than another family.
Although with that said I do believe that whites are objectively better than some other peoples such as native americans, africans and middle easterners.
The reason I don't believe fully in racial supremacy is that as far as I'm concerned Indians and Asians aren't our lessers.

That doesn't mean I want them here.

>>133304176
Could you post this DNA test in question? I knew somebody that scored 1% Jewish, and there was no trace of it going back 6 generations. It's loaded it didn't say "Semitic" or anything like that either, the one that was taken.

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>>133289900
>The local identity is the less important, nation much more, civilization fundamental.

>>133305556
>off the table
That's literally what Batls and Germanics fight for. For a good time. It being off the table implies that we need immigration. We don't

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>>133304176
It's about bloodlines and bloodlines alone. Pic related - mulatto filth

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I'm an American Supremacist. Set high standards of achievement and personal honor and the non-white problem will sort itself out because you need a license to breed and give your child a social security/ citizen number. Military service is required to enter politics.
America has also proven themselves to be superior to all Europeans as we have destroyed every European power we have encountered militarily or economically from Germany, to Britain, to the Russians.
America already could conquer the world if we played our cards correctly. We get the EU to fight Russia or China and then we mop up the survivors and take our rightful place as the lords of the Earth. The American people are stronger than anyone on Earth. If you deny this you are lying.

>>133306319
She scored jewish and spanish too. Also south italian.

Genetic is nothing more than a gamble where you didnt roll the dice.

>>133288195
I can live with fascism if it means stopping islamization.

>>133308146
>if it means stopping islamization.
Islamization of Europe is a good thing since it weakens them. Islamization of America is bad because that actively hurts us.

>>133308805
We need Europe, though.

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>>133308805
>Islamization of Europe is a good thing

>>133309437
Why? We would be stronger if we controlled their territory. Why not weaken them by diluting their strength with the 3rd world trash they love so much?

>>133310174
We already controlled their territory. Anyway, we don't really want them. They're too communist.

We just need their women for future breeding stock.

>>133310077
Post your flag. If it is America you are a traitor for going against national interests.
If it's European, then I don't care.

>>133310476
How did Rockefeller become wealthy?
He cut out the Middle-Man. Instead of using the rail road he built his own pipe line and owned every operation of his business.
The same is with us and our control of Europe. If we directly control Europe it will be more prosperous for us than if they rule themselves. Muslims and non-Jewish Arabs for the most part make poor leaders and are easily manipulated. Having Europe manned by them only helps us since we shifted the world competition into our favor.

>>133287100
Not racial superiority really. We all like to think our race is best but really we all know we are all different and we embrace our differences and are on a mission to preserve all our races and cultures (ours takes priority ofc).

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>>133311280
that's real retarded, sir