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So /pol/, are aliens real? I really don't know what

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So /pol/, are aliens real? I really don't know what to believe on this one.
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>>133265453
the reptilians have a base in antarctica. we will have warp drive in ten years so we'll be able to find their planet. justin trudeau will lead the space campaigns when the time comes.
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>>133265793
So that's his end game?
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Self-bump. Anyone got any real info or anything on this?
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>>133265453
maybe, maybe not
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>>133267848
Where does this info come from? Just speculation or what?
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>>133268004
The dreams of an autist after ingesting too much amphetamine
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>>133268004
this whole topic is speculation, theres strange shit all over the place if you begin to look but it might aswell be disinfo
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4073706/Are-aliens-hidden-ancient-religious-artwork-Bizarre-theory-claims-signs-early-visits-ET-old-paintings.html
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>>133268540
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>>133265453
2 and 4 are just muslim women
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>>133265453
>>133265453


real. this is the actual photo posted and removed last year. save it quick.
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>>133265453
Of course they're real. They're real and they need to go the fuck back. We need to build a wall out of the asteroid belt.
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Aliens probably do exist, but it's unlikely they'd be as advanced or intelligent as humans, or any other animal on Earth. Hell, they might not even be animals, plants or fungi as we find them on Earth, but something completey different.
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>>133269554
Proof this is a real ayy lmao?
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I find this topic totally fascinating so any info would be really appreciated. Asking on /pol/ instead of /x/ because it's literally just people posting stupid pictures and talking about trying to manifest their waifus and slenderman into reality by meditation. Honestly the most retarded board, Christ.
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>>133265453
I've seen 2 ufos before. I know they are real. That being said I've never seen any aliens.
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>>133265453
>inb4 aliens are demons/fallen angels
But seriously, OP pic creeps me out. Met second & fourth from left at sleep paralysis experiences.
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>>133269554
Nice try tbqhf
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>>133265453

Yes, OP. Aliens do exist.
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>>133270377
Nobody knows almost anything for certain. It's all speculation, from the silliest conspiratards to the smartest scientists. You won't find any truth from here or anywhere else. You could make some calculations about how likely it is that there is life outside of earth, but even those would be just pure speculation, since we have no idea how likely it is that life can form in the first place. The only thing we know for certain is that the possibility must be non-zero.
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>>133270513
It's how I got seriously interested in this. Seen something totally unbelievable that definitely WAS NOT an aircraft or anything near Machrihanish in Scotland. I know there's an RAF airfield there (not sure if still in use) but pretty sure we are not building anything like that. 2 mins and I'll Google Paint even though you'll never believe it.
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>>133265793
>we will have warp drive in ten years
>source: my ass
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>>133270640
>.
i dont get it what does this prove or disprove
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>>133265453
People are so fucking uncreative when drawing aliens is legit pisses me off. Look at fucking mass effect, all the "aliens" are just human bodies with different wacky alien heads. Oh, and some of them have different hands or feet or something.
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>>133265453
yeah, but they are astral parasites, also known as deamons. they can shapeshift.
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>>133271162
That's not at all implausible. Evolution has come up with eyes, for instance, many times. Maybe a humanoid shaped object is the logical conclusion of evolution. Maybe bilateral symmetry, bipedalism, opposable thumbs etc. are optimal solutions. Maybe aliens would look just like we do.
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>>133271162
Bipedal humanoids are the ultimate form
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>>133270796
I cannot draw on paint to save myself, but this thing was like so big it's hard to explain. Say the drawing is like the front windscreen and that's the road in front of us and that's a couple of buildings to the right. It was totally black and fucking like paper thin, like a fucking Dorito or something, could only even make it out because of the super bright light on the corner and the moonlight a bit. Like I have no idea about sizes but it took up like half the sky in front of us. Totally unbelievable I know, but I swear to God me and my dad seen this while driving from Campbeltown to Glasgow at like 2 in the morning. Impossibly big.
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>>133270632
>>133271319
>also known as deamons
called it
Don't entirely disagree though.
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ayyys are demonic entities and fallen angels that survived the flood
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Anyone have that story with pixel art drawings?
It's about some kind of humane prisoners in alien planet with huge wolves at night
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>>133271162
Both land animals and fish reached a very similar way to move - muscles. Same analogy can be seen in other parts of a human body. If different evolutionary roads lead to the same result, then obviously its the most efficient way.
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>>133272106
>nonphysical entities
>survived the flood
pick one
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>>133265453
Their called foreigners
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>>133265453
guys?
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Real alien photo posted to X last year
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>>133272518
if the flood couldn't kill them then why did God weaponize it
checkmate atheists
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>>133269554
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>>133271676
Also not sure if evident from the drawing but it wasn't like a perfect triangle, it was like puffed out, like a sail from a ship or something?
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>>133265453

>so /pol/

kys
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>>133269554
no, this is it
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>>133271162
Mass effect was an homage to space shows in the 90s. Even then they had some less humanoid aliens like the hanar
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>>133270632

They are demons dumb ass lmfao. Why do you have to be such a fedora-tipper about everything, acknowledging the truth of God's creation but denying the Creator

There is a spiritual realm that you cannot see but which exists in parallel with the visible world. The two realms are intertwined. According to Genesis, God created man. Some of God's angels rebelled against him/ The demons were cast out of heaven and fell to earth. Its recorded in Genesis that they raped human women and spawned all manner of abominations which were eventually wiped from the face of the earth; or maybe, the nephilim still exist out there in hiding.

God created man; Satan perverted God's creation and uses the nephilim as more physically grounded agents on earth
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>>133273955
>There is a spiritual realm that you cannot see but which exists in parallel with the visible world.
Which is exactly what I think about the phenomenon. 'Aliens' are always there, but beyond our range of perception. In rare instances that range gets extended. That 'they's demons' meme is funny because it's oversimplified.
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>>133265453
What happened to that fucking alien they found in Peru last month?
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>>133273955
>>133274627
Isn't is possible all the scripture and shit, what they say about demons and spirits and whatever is just them trying to understand something they couldn't in the terms they understood?
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>>133274908
What alien? I haven't heard of this yet.
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>>133265453
Aliens are completely real. There are clear species despite all varied differences in sightings.
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>>133275039

Here you go, Hermann.

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2017/06/23/hoax-or-not-3-fingered-humanoid-mummy-reportedly-found-in-peru-sparks-skepticism.html
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>>133275139
Mothman is no alien!
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>>133275675
I didn't make the drawing.
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>>133274994
In a sense. I had direct experiences & I don't know what the fuck is going on. So does nobody else that had experiences. Those people that are sure of their theories, just have a low bar for truth, is all.
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>>133265453
It's all bullshit. All the black project tech we have was made by humans with a contract. Aliens for sure are out there. Are they visiting? Nope, it's just advanced tech that has no use for the consumer market, like jetpacks.
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>>133274994
Or maybe Demons are just posing as Aliens as a PR stunt.

It clearly has helped.

Idiots like you eat it up because "muh more intellectual explanation", makes you feel all smart and superior to your predecessors.
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To validate the pic of OP. Literally hundreds of the same reports made by people experiencing sleep paralysis.
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And these guys.
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>>133265453
OP give this a read. Supposedly a codex on the Soviet/Ruskie version of Blue Book. Either it is accurate, or the best sci fi I have read since Dune.

https://www.docdroid.net/9wcc/alien-race-book-arb.pdf#page=161
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>>133277749
Cheers man, I appreciate it. Is it verified or bullshit or what?
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>>133277123
>people experience seeing a generic humanoid shape in their dreams

Oh, it's almost as if people are predisposed to recognizing some features, such as how you can see faces in nature where there are none, such as on tree trunks.

t: a person who has seen several grudge esque apparitions during sleep paralysis
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>>133271676

Probably a rigid Airship, with a profile suitable for supersonic speed. Such a craft would be very fast, and have insane endurance compared to a plane.
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>>133277828
I wish I remembered my exact pathway to it. Something like...

>Summerfag posts some David Wilcock bullshit
>Oldfag links to interesting, obscure UFO board with very convincing LARPers talking about the "hidden cosmic war" and the imminent return of humanity's allies, "The Council of Five [races]"
>One poster on that blog asks thread OP: "what was that crazy Russian codex you posted a week back? Link?"
>Start reading. Might be total bullshit but I'll never look at the moon the same way again
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>>133278443
my mistake. try now

https://www.docdroid.net/9wcc/alien-race-book-arb.pdf#page=160
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>>133278443
fucked up the last digit of the link. "160," not "161"
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>>133278738
Thanks.
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>>133278620
Still won't work...
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>>133277210
Mine looked more like this. A kind of white rotting flesh, dark eyes, and it was screaming at me over my bed.
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>>133278513
you are probably talking about the Lyran Wars, a cosmic tale going back hundreds of thousands of years
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>>133265453
depends, if your question is "does life exists elsewhere in the universe?" yes. in fact it'd be strange if it didn't. if you mean little grey men contacting earth in secret then no. the odds of us finding intelligent life are so small that it'd be a miracle if it happened. the universe is just too huge.
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>>133278945
Last try...

https://www.docdroid.net/9wcc/alien-race-book-arb.pdf
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>>133278972
I once had a little girl with a long black messy hair in a white dress walk through the sofa I was sleeping on with jerking steps, and another time I had a woman with a long black messy hair in a white dress levitate at the end of my bed, shaking violently.
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>>133267848
This is true


t. knower

you virgins wouldnt believe even if trump revelaed this
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>>133268540
I'm speculating that that skull's front half is from an actual specimen, while someone attached the bigger half to the back of it, just saying. The peices don't even have the same shape, regardless of the crack.
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>>133279175
Yes, this term came up a lot, and was painted as a conflict going back some 15,000 years (Terrestrial). Apparently, we were created by the Anunaki, who were driven off, and co-opted by the Draco/Reptilians and their Maitre Race allies around the time of Babylon? Shit talking about David Wilcock aside, he had an interesting speaker [Corey Goode], also a high-quality LARPer, that has an interesting (((YT))) lecture on these fuckin planet-sized orbs that appeared 12/2012 to blockade the reptillians and their allies, and shit is hitting the fan now? Same thing?
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Google Lloyd Pye "everything you know is wrong"
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>>133278118
Point taken. There's a whole cluster of these shadow entities though, not all that generic.
>generic 100% human shadow people, classic
>little robed monks
>Giant shadow man, literally larger than a man
>Hatman
>Old Hag
>Mothman (imho because experienced)
I've seen the giant dude several times completely sober at night, fully awake at my worst. Why do all of them have red trailing eyes and a smokey shape? And cmon man, if you experienced it don't you agree there's a certain something in the air? That intense feeling of dread. As I said I don't know wtf is going on, but imho pareidolia is just a poor attempt at explaining the phenomenon away.
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>>133265453
let's hope not. it's bad enough that life exists here.
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>>133265453
aliens are real and so is jesus

i've several aliens working on my strawberry plantation, and at least of them is named jesus
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>>133278513
What was the forum??
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>>133277749
>>133277828
>>133278443
>>133278513
>>133278620
>>133278738
>>133278847
>>133278945
>>133279390
I think this was the blog where I originally found the .pdf. last link work? Project Avalon looks like a bunch of weird fucks.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?76244-Russian-Secret-Alien-Races-Book
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>>133280126
I think it was a project avalon thread, but can't be certain.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?76244-Russian-Secret-Alien-Races-Book
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>>133279743
Pose of the creature suggests its gay also.
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>>133271116
ayy lmao is from a separate image and was shooped in
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>>133278118
Kayako a cute
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>>133279812
the war I heard of dealt with the original species from which humanity is an offshoot of, Lyrans who were tall and large but peaceful and the Vegans who were darker skinned but relatively peaceful as well, the Draco's arrived on Lyran planets and demanded to have those planets and a war broke out
Lyrans were pretty much wiped out since they were bad at war and fled to become the Pleiadians and a bunch of other sub human species, some even joined the Dracos empire as colony worlds
So the Dracos came to Earth, mixed up Vegan/Lyran dna with the local apes and humans were the product, and now there's a galactic war to 'free' humanity from the grasp of the lizard people
I read it pretty much at this site: http://www.exopaedia.org/Humanoid+galactic+history
its comprehensive stuff, a true saga that would make an interesting film quadrilogy or tv series
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>>133278972
Was that female looking? In that case similar to the Old Hag people report. Read about similar ghoulish stuff like your experienced though. Always been shadow beings for me only.
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The biggest conjecture I could give is that ETs are real and have encountered earth. Are they communicating with us? No, probably not. Sparing a few mishaps over the span of time life has been on earth, a handful of times at most.

I think the US government knows they are there, possibly observing us, but we have no significant intentional or ongoing contact.
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>>133279889
>That intense feeling of dread.
It's just a part of the sleep paralysis experience. It's your brain playing tricks on you, and if you are absolutely sure you were wide awake when you have seen the other stuff, you should go see a doctor.

I've gotten so used to the sleep paralysis stuff that the last time I had it, I pretty much tried to go back to sleep right after waking up, despite the lingering feel of dread. There is nothing super natural about sleep paralysis.

As for people seeing the same sorts of characters, I am pretty sure it's because of human mind trying to create something they can imagine based on what they have heard before, or that the mind later interprets what it saw as one of the things you describe.
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>>133280698
>Aliens
>Vegans
I fucking knew it.
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>>133280698
Then who was Jesus?
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>>133280698
OK so there are some key intersections between your version and what I have read in the last two weeks. All the same players, but where they diverge: Wilcock and that half-wit Corey Goode say that the reptillians are like the Khazars of space and were driven out almost completely, save for our solar system. However, the draco/reptiles came, as you say, after the Lyrans/Pleyadians--though they insist we were created by the earlier progenitors, the Anunaki, but that Pleyadians are our cosmic cousins, along with another humanoid race and maybe the martians. Also interesting fact: apparently, along the "linear" progression of those stars that came at the beginning of the big bang--at the furthest stretch of the universe--and the youngest, our solar system is in the "geographic" middle of that "line". according to that Ruskie codex, "Earth has only 1% of what any alien race wants/needs," but it is basically the perfect truck stop location.
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>>133265453
Alien Gonzalez was a Russian plant sent to kill Hillary's campaign.
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>>133281265
A forth density wander (alien forgetting his pasf to help people in third density -us)
>lawofone.info
All is one.
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>>133265453
Yes
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>>133281639
>lawofone.info
Where does this site get the info from or is it just a wiki made by some looney?
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>>133281150
I would absolutely agree if it would only happen asleep. But as I said I had multiple experiences with the large shadow man when awake & under hypnagogia. You can even tell before it's going to happen. The atmosphere of the room changes. Most of the people hear about the whole shadow people thing after their own experiences. Yeah now it's a fad with movies and whatnot, but before that people still reported similar odd details without having any connection to it.
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>>133280698
>>133281485
Correction, the Reptilians were PRECEDED by the Khazar space-jews. Sorry, I get this shit web tangled up
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>>133281730
wtf?
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>>133281739
'channeling'
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>>133281739
This is pure falsehood, the fucking guy that helped to create this cult even says that he does not validate the claims, the other guy commited suicide and the woman claims she talks with an alian named Ra. When you go to a kik group and everyone is saying the law of one, for the power of ra, etc, you know it's some grade F role play. Look it up and have a hilarious read.
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>>133281730
http://gizmodo.com/coronal-cavities-are-not-alien-spaceships-refeuling-1562241677
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>>133281730
>>133281937
>Wat is plasma physics
>Wat is fluid dynamics

Magnetic field lines have curves like that.. retards.
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Mathmatically/statistically - they have to be. In fact I hear they watch you from your windows when you sleep. Don't catch them watching you tho they get mad.
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>>133282126

https://archive.is/FWqpA
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>>133265453

Why does it matter?
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>>133282067
Thought so. Were it legit you'd think it was picked up by more people.
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>>133281265
>Then who was Jesus?

A myth. http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/

Typical christfag. Bringing up Jesus in a subject totally unrelated.
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>>133273041
spoopy
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>>133265453
Absolutely. Universe is so large you could find almost anything from there. The problem is that its too far away from us.
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>>133281265
Based Pleyadian? All of this lore covers angels/demons/Lucifer/paganism.
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>>133265453
They live in the Mariana Trench.
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>>133282137
good goy
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"The Controllers" by Martin Cannon is probably where you should start. He later distanced himself from the subject but never ever retracted the information in "The Controllers".
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>>133265453
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>>133267848
i do enjoy this comfy ayyy lore. it's bullshit, but i believe it. also
>tfw no qt martian gf
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>>133265453
Look up Jacques Vallée.

His is the only satisfying conclusion reached so far: essentially, he conducted a LOT of research into figuring out who, how, why where and when, and everything in between about UFO reportings and other "encounters". His conclusion was that throughout history there are certain common elements that suggest that at least some of it is not made up and that, given what we know about the nature of gravity, the costliness of space travel and quantum mechanics that it is practically impossible for aliens to be flying here in little ships to abduct people - that doesn't mean the sightings are wrong, though - he suggests that one of two things is happening:

Either the phenomenon is manipulated and deliberately tuned to be interpreted that way, or it is the equivalent to higher dimensional beings brushing against our range of sensory range.

tl;dr there is substantial evidence for truth in supernatural and/or extraterrestrial phenomena, but we are not at the point where we can access the information required to come to a conclusion about it.
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>>133269658
build a dyson sphere and make the ayys pay for it
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>>133281859
>You can even tell before it's going to happen.
Well shit, no wonder you see things since you think it's going going to happen and your dreaming self creates that illusion. Every time I see nightmares, I always think something bad is going to happen right before it's going to happen. It's not about precognition, it's about your paranoid subconciousness creating the thing you fear for you.

You are not seeing aliens or ghosts or elves, you are just seeing nightmares.

Your mind is a freaky thing that can cause all sorts of illusions and I can say this not only as a person who has had exstensive experience with nightmares, but also as a person who has tried some psychedelics. Your mind can interpret things in a way that can fool your conscious self by making nonsense seem so real.
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>>133282137
lol cant believe you fall for shit like that.
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>>133281739
It's a relistening of the session from the law of One/Ra material series. The authors' website with free pdfs is this
>llresearch.org
It's kind of a crazy series but different compared to other new age stuff in my opinion. It's from the 80s and the tone seems more scientific than a lot of other stuff, also there is no fear mongering and doom and gloom. They generally do not make predictions since they say only probabilities can be known (also respecting free will etc, which is super important according to them). They did "predict" a couple of things, like that the earth axis would move 20 degrees east to align with new energies (this seems to be happening but is attributed to melting ice if you google this). Also the idea that different logos (galaxies) have different Natural laws... there is a scientific hypothesis saying the same thing (different laws of physics)
>https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/09/100909004112.htm
The main message however is that all is one, and we are all individualized portions of the creator experiencing itself through our free will. And also experiencing "manyness" and thus the illusion of separation. We forgot this because supposedly this makes our evolution faster, in this "density" or dimension or choice (service to others or self, one being a path of lies, but both being valid since the self also contains all). The "veil" will be lifted once we graduate into 4th density of universal love. The densities mirror the chakras and the ultimate goal is reuinification with infinity and ones... then a new density in another octave starts. It's a looong crazy series, but absolutely fascinating imho.
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>>133280700
Naw, no hair. Felt like a masculine presence.. angry aggressive etc.
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>>133265453
Of course Aliens are NOT real you stupid human
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>>133283519
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>>133282970
No, I mean im minding my business doing what I do, and suddenly it happens. I begin thinking it's going to happen after it already begun. Reactionary.
Well what psychedelics? If you did Ayahuasca & DMT a dozen times, maybe you wouldn't be sure anymore.
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>>133283295
Main message not untrue. Comes with baggage though.
>>133283367
Hopefully not more of that for us.
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>>133284586
>Main message not untrue. Comes with baggage though
Well put. They do say themselves a lot of the things are "transitory" and seem to prefer to talk about the creator and unity, actually.
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>>133284928
Got the same core as gnosticism,hermeticism, animism/shamanism etc. Good to investigate, but always best not to join any clubs.
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>>133280698
someone had to take time out of their day to draw this. think about that. really ponder it.
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>>133284216
Acid. It really can flip the way you see things, such as for me it turned a cramped living room into a large white hall, and for a moment it seemed boundless. I knew all the time it wasn't real, but I think it could have seemed real if I didn't have my wits about me.

DMT probably does effect your mind in the way that it actually makes you believe in what you see. Just because you believe in something being real doesn't make it real.
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>>133279390
>>133278847
Here's an interesting figure presented in the ARB:

>"Our agents estimate that near 65% of all alien and UFO related websites on the internet (worldwide) are government (or government-linked) owned and ran.
>"In the case of the USA-only websites that number jumps to 83% and in Europe to 70%.
>"In the USA 35% of those websites are ran by the NSA, 30% by the CIA, 15% by the military [likely AF], 10% by APIS-USA [Alien Presence Intell. Services], 5% ran by the FBI and the rest by [OGAs].

>"In Russia that number is around 33%.
>"In China that number is around 95%.
>"In Japan that number is around 70%.
>"In Australia that number is around 25%.
>"In India that number is around 55%.
>"In Brazil that number is around 80%."

p. 112
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>>133285568
Really activates your almonds
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>>133277210
Shadow people they come from another dimension.
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>>133285634
Well, DMT is produced in the Pineal gland. I don't know much about acid, but I can certainly say that DMT is likely a gateway into the realm of ETIs. 4th and 5th dimensional entities are invisible to us without it.
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>>133285700
Particularly interesting that Japan, India and Brazil have such high percentages compared to state capacity, esp. given the number of sightings in those countries enumerated in this book. Russia and Aus. govs on the other hand are some of the biggest proponents for disclosure.
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>>133285859
That's just your mind playing tricks on you, mate. Did you do DMT before or after you started believing in all this stuff and did you see this stuff before? DMT is a hell of a drug, you probably should have started with acid or something.
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>>133278972
>>133279417
>>133277210

Jesus..I am happy this doesnt happen to me, You know its paralysis right? or what do you think it is?
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>>133285634
>>133285634
>DMT probably does effect your mind in the way that it actually makes you believe in what you see.
It doesn't. In fact your mind is much clearer than on acid, except that you slip into ego death really easily. What happens is, what you encounter if you go deep enough is so impressive that it's hard to take your stance anymore. I'll be honest mate, try it if you dare. Then let's talk. You seem to have very limited experience.
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>>133272868
wtf
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what do you want to know I am the only person here that has had a close encounter of the 3rd kind ama .
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>>133287128
Happy for you too, it's no fun. But maybe it does happen to you, you just don't notice. That's my view pretty much. That everything, aliens and other entities are a thing constantly, but we can't perceive it.
>>133285859
What this anon said. Clear link between endogenous DMT & these 'paranormal' experiences.
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>>133269554
saved
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>>133287128
It's your mind being in sleep mode and awake at the same time. Your body is paralysed during sleeping to prevent you from causing harm to yourself while dreaming and that function stays turned on when you enter sleep paralysis mode.

>>133287278
I haven't done DMT myself, but I have heard some stuff. I have a friend who has done it but it wasn't as intense for him as you describe.

I do appreciate the therapeutical function of drugs such as acid, even as a tool to learn more about yourself and about how to percieve the world around you, but I don't think there is anything super natural about any of this.

Even you only have very subjective experience about what you have seen (in other words, no one has been there with you to confirm what you see around you when you see the things you see, so it's more likely that it's purely in your head) and I think it's more likely that DMT is the sort of a drug that causes you to believe in things, instead of giving you some sort of knowledge that is coming from outside your own body.

If you can't confirm what you experience in any other way than how you remember them without being able to record them, it is most likely that it's in your head and that's not necessarily a bad thing if it makes you better able to function as a human being. But believing blindly in it might cause you problems, not being able to tell apart reality from hallucinations isn't beneficial.
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>>133283154
Do you have a degree in feminist dance therapy? Because mine is in particle physics.

As technology advances, it becomes miniaturized. A power source that needs to draw directly from a fucking star is not miniaturized. ZPE or fusion is the logical step.
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>>133281155
They are Vegans, we are Solarians. Named after the mother star.


>Our solar system is moving in Vega’s direction, at a speed of 12 miles per second, and Vega will become the brightest star in the sky in about 210,000 years, and its apparent magnitude will reach a peak at -0.81 in roughly 290,000 years. Once it reaches that point, it will be the brightest star seen from Earth for approximately 270,000 years.

>Vega has a circumstellar disk of dust in its orbit, and irregularities observed in the disk indicate that there is at least one planet orbiting the star, with a size comparable to that of Jupiter.

>Vega was the nearest star to the North Celestial Pole around 12,000 BCE and will take over as the northern pole star again around the year 13,727.
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>>133288883
It's just the nature of the beast, no point talking about it if you didn't experience it. Even in a group of people that have experience, talking about it is challenging...to say the least. Feel free to believe what you do.
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>>133286791
I was curious about ETI's before I tried DMT, which was what originally lead me to the drug in the first place. You may be right about that. I probably just confirmed my bias for wanting to communicate with higher beings.
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>>133265453
based on the size of the universe, its almost statistically impossible there isn't other intelligent life.
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>>133282415
>Based Pleyadian

Pleiadeans a cute. CUTE!
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disclosure when?
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>>133289730
>I probably just confirmed my bias
That's what I think too, but I don't think the experience is without it's uses. You might be able to reflect on your experience and maybe learn something about yourself, how you think or how you view the world.

From my experience with acid I learned to appreciate the beauty of nature more, I learned more about the power of touch and I realized how differently people may view other people or objects, paying different sort of attention to detail.

>>133289640
In all my experience I have never seen any shred of evidence of anything supernatural happening, it being more likely about just how my brain and it's chemistry is playing tricks on me. That's why I don't believe your experience being anything more that that. But just as I said to the other fellow, it is not a fool's errand to try to learn about these sorts of experiences, they may be very enlightening.
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>>133265453
Aliens are very real and very illusive. They prefer us completely subdued when they communicate with us, and can purposefully stimulate fear responses (either for purely offensive purposes or for a higher purpose, basically removing the sense of fear through overload). Hence the shadows, night terrors, etc. etc. If you think politics are complicated exopolitics are totally off the wall.
So basically, if you dont want to see them they probably dont want to see you either.
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Reminder: aliens are interdimensional beings (can travel among dimensions) also known in ancient times as fallen angels and demons.

The Omega Conspiracy Dr. I D E Thomas
http://www.scribd.com/doc/112899052/The-Omega-Conspiracy-Dr-I-D-E-Thomas

The Alien Agenda and the NWO
http://youtu.be/X2ZvE40HilE

I.D.E. Thomas: The First To Expose The "Alien" Strong Delusion
http://youtu.be/H1_BmEJ39DM

Jacques Vallee - Messengers of Deception
http://www.scribd.com/doc/33478326/Jacques-Vallee-Messengers-of-Deception

David Jacobs - The Threat
http://cdn.preterhuman.net/texts/alien.ufo/Jacobs,%20David%20-%20The%20Threat.pdf

Fallen Angels, Yoga & Hinduism, New Age, New World Satanic Order
http://youtu.be/K97yB1-4Ers

Jacques Vallee - Passport to Magonia
https://www.scribd.com/doc/96346027/Jacques-Vallee-Passport-to-Magonia

ShapeShifting UFOs & Flying Humanoids Are EVERYWHERE! (2017)
https://youtu.be/mFwwWjEbG9o
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>>133290748
The thing is, you take a stance on it based on nothing, I have tangible experiences and refuse to take a stance other than I don't know. Healthy scepticism is good, but once you pick a team about something you don't know about, you need some healthy agnosticism with that.
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>>133271676
Interesting thanks for sharing. I've seen one UFO before was a very typical saucerish shape. I'm 30 and hardly ever get afraid of Shit but for some reason those Grey's freak me out and its not always all the time either. I've had some weird ass dreams about aliums too. I'll wake up fearing foe my life and it happens very rarely. Ive never ever had sleep paralysis
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>>133265453
possibly
theres nothing substantial yet
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>>133265453
Finally a thread where I can post pic related.
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>>133265453
OP moon landing fake. Alien belief is faith based. You don't know anyone who has seen one. Is a movement with its own set of propaganda that is laying seige to established history and science.
It corroborates to closely to scientology and is playing into the hand of Catholicism. It's demonic.

The idea of aliens only interacting with the powerful and hiding themselves , one or the other should scare people shitless if they are real.

Belief in something unseen is called faith without science. This is a religous movement
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>>133265453
yeah but the look like pic related instead of:

>muh 10th dimensional time lords from the AYY LMAO dimension xD and ufos
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>>133292132
>You don't know anyone who has seen one.
I've seen UFOs. So have a few people I know irl. Now UFO =/= alien it just means what it says, flying objects we (the average people) can't identify, unlike any known flying objects made by men. If you look into UFOs only there's tons of evidence and tons of effort by the government to discredit and cover that topic up. In such a case there's nothing religious or faith-relying about it.
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>>133265453
The universe is far too big and time is far too long for intelligent beings capable of intergalactic travel to ever contact each other.
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>>133290479
never

t. dr. steven greed
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>>133292602
I think the reasoning you used to reach your conclusion proves the opposite. There can't not be aliums.
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>>133292536
Not ufos. A alien
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>>133293045
You're right but they would be so far away in distance (thousands or millions of light years) and/or time (thousands or millions of years in the future or past) they might as well not exist at all
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>>133282777
I'd give my left nut for a martian gf
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>>133265453
I don't know, but flying saucers are
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>>133265453
>Billions upon billions of planets in the universe
>Universe has been around for 13.7 billion years
>Millions of UFO sightings, many by credible professionals, many involving multiple eyewitnesses, and some leaving physical evidence
>Fermi paradox says we should be visited by extraterrestrial civilizations

You'd have to be an idiot to not believe in aliens
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>>133292536
Small black disks? That's what I saw
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>>133293338
Materialism is one hell of a drug.
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>>133291761
I just think that it's more likely that it's just an effect of DMT to cause that sort of feelings, instead of it actually being some mystic portal throught which you can telepathically communicate with extra dimensional beings.

Since I have not had any confirmed supernatural experience, this seems like that most likely scenario, it is not based on just nothing.
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>>133293338
oh shit sorry my man i read your post wrong
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>>133293846
No you're good I don't think I made much of a point in the first one
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>>133293816
Yes it's based on nothing, you don't know what it's like at all.
>DMT to cause that sort of feelings
If that were inherently true, there wouldn't be people with your attitude that actually did DMT, but there are. Although they tend to get fewer and fewer as they get more experienced. Otherwise some intense mental gymnastics required to keep that game up. The ultimate Wisdom of DMT is that nobody knows shit about anything.
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>>133293684
nope, 3 silver ones in a triangle formation. flew straight up into the sky one after the other after hovering for a while. during the daytime
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>>133294723
I saw two black disks. They hovered about twenty minutes, moved very slowly, and then hauled ass. No sound. Daytime.
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>>133283749
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>>133265453
Yes, there base is inside the moon and they use radio waves to supress us
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Good thread
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>>133282749

This is from shuumatsu, I only know because I used extreme google-fu to find it. But you didn't link a download, or tell me why the game/novel/whatever is good. So I suppose we won't connect on that.

Good quote though.
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>>133265453
Given the sheer scale of the observable universe its arrogant to assume we are the only space rock blessed with life. Ayylmaos exist certainly but would we ever have the chance to encounter them, given how mind bogglingly vast space is? Idk
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>>133291243
so you're saying we wuz aliens and shiet?
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>>133265453
Ayy I dunno
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Fire cuin
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>>133296738
It's got an interesting take on the alien thing.
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>>133296921
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>>133297002
>shiet

I'm afraid you have it backwards.

First, take the word "shit".

Separate it into the two sounds that make up the word: "sh" and "it".

Then, add a long "e" in the middle: "eee".

Now, put it all together: "sh" + "eee" + "it" = sheeeit

It's not hard.
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>>133267848
That's all fine and dandy, but a global flood couldn't have sunk atlantis because a global flood never happened.
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>>133297870
Geologists disagree.
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>>133298070
Literally the opposite. There's not any evidence for a global flood.
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>>133297167

Well, what is it? You've been posting this quote all the time apparently, I'm interested in how to download the movie/game/book/whatever.
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They know where we are. Intelligent life has only existed in the universe for a few hundred million years before us though.

You can actually travel in space as far as you want.
The closer you get to the speed of light, the more time slows down for you relative to the outside world, but when you arrive at your destination, x amount of years per light year travelled will have gone by.

You can cross the galaxy in like 30 years to you, but 100,000 years will have gone past in the outside world.

Aliens live in harmony with their space ships. Its like a super smart phone that can doctor them and turn into any shape they desire.

It is also a super computer integrated into their minds, which allows them to tell where in the galaxy planet y will be x years and do the science they need to know where to go next.

A single alien could of visited the entirety of human civilization while doing other things, but they are always moving towards the future.

They see the potential in us, but we are chimps to them, they've been living in a post-technological singularity world for thousands of years now.

Source: Am alien
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>>133265453
Can't be, because the earth is a flat endless plane. Unless there are other "worlds" of sorts past the endless "wall" of ice and they found a way to travel to and from these other places.
Something like pic related but obviously a bit different and further away.
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>>133298342
post feet
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>>133298423
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>>133298342
>could of visited
Entire post discarded.
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>>133265453
Members of a breakaway civilization ("heaven") crash landed on Earth ("hell") and decided they wanted to make this their home. They mixed with humans they left behind and here we are.
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>>133281730
>what are plasma physics
>what is a magnetic field
>what are fluid dynamics

Jesus Christ. I hate this portion of /pol/
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>>133298542
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>>133265453
Not sure but probably not. Certain elites have toyed around with the idea of faking an alien invasion to unite humanity under a world government.

Fact: There are people with higher levels of technology than what the public is aware of.

What sort of technology? could be stuff that is actually not all that interesting. Could just be standard government technology made for war, super efficient energy production which is kept supressed so as to not upset the world economy. or could be anything from immortality to flying saucers.

I have read books on the occult, hidden technologies etc and i have been convinced that there was a near global society on earth thousands of years before christ who all followed a sort of pagan religion where the priests had secret technologies etc that they kept out of the hands of "the profane" in order to better subjugate them.
What im not so sure of but suspect is that there is a gap similar to that to this day, with people at the top who view humanity the same way the priests of old who influenced people with their superior and even crazier is that there are things that point to the possibility that atlantis was in antarctica and not only that but that there might be a base/city up there with ridiculously futuristic technology today.
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>>133299061
Space wine makes me mess up my ofs and haves
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Yup.

https://youtu.be/5muY64Oyp10
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>>133299181
do spikes erupt from your heels or something? that's kinda cool desu
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>>133299591
just ordinary space herpes
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THERE ARE ALIENS, BUT THEY HAVENT VISITED EARTH! Why would they have to hide or pretend some shit?? If aliens ever will visit us and they will be smarter than us they will enslave us or do even worse. FUCKING WAKE UP, TARDS and read some read some real science.
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>>133280462
no its real
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>>133265793
Totally, dude.
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>>133298342
>t. doesn't understand warp bubbles
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>>133265453
>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXt6yqfxqEU
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>>133298342
The biggest nonsense shit I've ever heard.
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>>133300704
Station.
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>>133282126
just as much as likely as a refueling ship or something even weirder and unknown. Science is a meme
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>>133265453

Sleep paralysis and baby memories are all alien abuctions are
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>>133265453
Of course.
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>>133300965
It's a real alien you fucking idiot.
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>>133265793
Umm if we uhhh let the umm aliens fuck our wives then uhhhm we win
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>>133289730
Really made think that comment because here there was some UFO cult called Alpha and Omega, that mixed Jesus with some scrolls drawn by some Chilean with telepathic capabilities.
Most of them are Vegan (In the earthly sense)
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Can't speak for aliens, but I certainly have looked up at the sky and seen things I cannot explain. One time while camping in Algonquin (Canada) my uncle's and I watched these 4 green lights off in the distance for some time. They were not aircraft, no aircraft could move and change direction like these things did. Each one of them moved in sync with the other. I remember tracing their pattern with my finger and essentially making a figure 8. The only plausible explanation we could come up with was military testing from the base that was somewhat nearby.

Creeped us the fuck out, but we stayed up late into the night watching these lights and they were still there when we went to bed.
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>>133265453
1.Jebs wife
2.Terrorist
3.space jew
4.short terrorist
5.hobo
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>>133265453
It's literally statistically impossible for aliens not to exist.

>Whether they would be alive when we found them is another story.
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>>133291761
True, but I think you need more proof than your word to rule in ET. The sleep paralysis theory is pretty sound from my point of view.
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There are certainly aliens out there, but I doubt any are more advanced than we are and I doubt very many within our galaxy have any form of intelligence. As for other galaxies, I have no idea.
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>>133277749
you are being tricked in a grand fashion. all of these things are happening. It is like a game but for us it is real. we are not gods, we have to play by their rules.

protip: choosing good will allow you to become immortal not on this earth in your body. choosing evil will probably eventually end in everlasting life through science. They already have told you how they plan to do it too. by upvoting your mind to a computer and censoring all your non pc thoughts from existence.
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>>133309246
You mean ET in the sense of from other planets? Yes I'm not convinced at all. I'm leaning more to the view that it's not just all sleep paralysis, more like that the same phenomenon is behind sleep paralysis and alien abduction stuff. And more, I think that's what the old european fairy abduction stories are about too. Just different cultural context.
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>>133265453

Aliens like to Watch. Humans are fascinating & somewhat entertaining in the "Drunk friend passed out on the couch" sortof way.

(Did threads relating to them: http://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/subject/knowledge%20bomb/username/anonymous5/tripcode/%21%219O2tecpDHQ6/)

Most "UFO's" are BBP's(Black Budget Projects) using Reverse Engineered Aircraft. The ones that aren't are Alien Drones & older model Craft/Ships that are allowed to be shot down or purposely crashed. No real Aliens are ever inside of them.
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>>133309374
highly arrogant of you. I think this stems from people just not being able to grasp in their minds the vastness of even our own galaxy.
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>>133265453

Nope. Infinite universe and we're the only fuckers in it.
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>>133294389
btw, I know that drugs can affect your emotions. I took fluoxetine on prescription. Also when on different emotions different ways of thinking and different memories.

Look at my flag and you'll know that Ayahuasca or San Pedro are legit ways of reaching those happiness, disgust, surprise or interest states that normally you don't reach and get ideas you usually don't get. But you have to be careful about that and do it with someone who knows.
Iquitos for Ayahuasca and Chiclayo for San Pedro OK.
Cusco, not legit and pretty dangerous.

>>133310116
>You mean ET in the sense of from other planets?
Yes, it was the thread's topic. And it's most likely the same phenomenon as sleep paralysis imo.
But different stories for different cultural contexts.
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>>133311802
Oh sorry mate, didn't look closely enough and thought you were Austrian. I've got experience with both, less with Pedro/Huachuma. Yeah but Iquitos these days isn't that great either because of the money the tourism brought. Plenty of fake curanderos ripping people off or abusing people.
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>>133298342
>theory of jewlativery
nice try shlomo
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>>133265453

Yes tom Delonge is working with John Podesta a Lockheed Skunkworks executive VP, and 2 USAF generals about UFOs... it actually has more to do w the occult than physical aliens as we think of them. It's more "spiritual" or interdimensional.

This is in Wikileaks, dead fucking serious, look it up people, please.

Research Richard Dolan, he gives a great historical background of the UFO phenomenon.

There are many examples of UFOs fucking with Nuclear weapons installations across the world. See rendlesham forest for a start.
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>>133271319

Demon comes from the Greek work Daemon.

OP check out the work of John Mack of Harvard university medical school he was a psychiatry professor who studied the Abduction phenomenon and concluded it was real, and that it had to do with shamanism and that our fundamental materialistic understanding of reality doesn't make sense.

Passport to the Cosmos is a good book
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Hard to say.

The universe is incomprehensibly-vast and I wouldn't say there is or isn't life out there.

Just to put things into perspective:

The Milky Way Galaxy has an estimated 100 billion stars; do you know how long it would take for you to count to 1 billion at a rate of one number per second? Over 30 years.

And there are millions of other galaxies containing billions more stars and they're billions of miles away.

It literally cannot be comprehended how vast the universe is.
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http://universaltruth.github.io

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kxPx-BVN4yc

There is a tremendous amount of government involvement. There is a tremendous amount of media manipulation to ridicule this phenomenon in the eyes of the public.

Main stream media is fake news
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>>133300250


Because they are the engineers of the secrecy for a reason... the question is why, not to deny that the phenomenon is real you dumb fuck, Neil degrades Tyson and Shermer should kill themselves because they don't know what they're talking about when it comes to this issue
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>>133271676
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TR-3_Black_Manta

i saw one of these in bristol
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>>133270632
Aliens are not demons, demons were aliens. This topic just tends to attract dumbass christfags who will never accept that we're not special in this universe because of their ego.
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>>133315744
a man that cant figure out how to wear a baseball cap knows all.
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>>133317596
so youre saying people used to believe aliens were demons. then what was god? what was jesus?
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>>133318109
Alium
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>>133318273
a clearly superior one.
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>>133270632
>sleep paralysis
When I was trying to lucid dream I accidentally Induced this shit instead. Never slept on my back since.
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>>133318564
pfff let me know when you start to be a character in someone elses dreams. Thinking the whole time fuck this is my job as a dreamer now? to be one of the extras I used to have in my dreams?
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>>133272868
yooooo is tht real?
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>>133291079
I meant elusive. oops, typo. but both really.
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>>133318886
sometimes.
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>>133269554
This is why I don't believe aliens exist, the alien in that picture looks exactly like a human but just mutated and deformed. There's even people who suffered from radiation and look exactly like this. If aliens were real they look like something completely unknown in our minds.
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>>133314225
I'm under the impression that we've threatened them with the annihilation of our world and the desolation of theirs. Their "good intentions" are just play-acting.
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>>133265453
YEs mby

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70E9KA48Sic
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>>133265793
Trudeau gives space aliens 10 gorillian loonies
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>>133272868
Dude what the fuck is that
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>>133287507
>>133318885
>>133322347

you know you can actually delete photos on your own post right?
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>>133265453
Eisenhower negotiated with the aliens, there will be no official public disclosure by any governments.
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>>133275139
Hmm those describes by alleged abductees look the same.
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The greys are wearing skin suits. That's not their real form.
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>>133275139
Reminder that LSD became widely available around 1947
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>>133318564
Actively think
"I need to vibrate higher"
Whenever you have sleep paralysis.
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>>133318564
Yeah that's common, and actually a good sign that what you do works. It's even worse when trying astral projection. Heard some creepy stories from people having to race back to their body, and feeling like they'd be fucked if they don't make it. Supposedly the body is vulnerable somehow when you're out venturing.
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>>133265453
They're real. The universe teams with life. The real question is whether or not extraterrestrials are benevolent or malevolent towards humanity.

t. some idiot weakling solari.
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>>133282668
100% agree.
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/pol/, here is what I know about UFOs


>they move incredibly fast but make no sonic boom because they bend the fabric of space time behind their crafts (moving the universe itself AROUND their craft) rather than using propulsion
>some accounts have them bigger on the inside than the outside of the craft
>multiple accounts describe the ships as a mix of organic material and machine

You have more options with biology in terms of technology than you do with metal machinery because our bodies work on a microscopic atomic scale.

>some accounts of the Grays recovered described their biology as minimailst, one man essentially saying the grays we know are merely just clones and on par with the probes we send to Mars but biological rather than machines.

Imagine you can program someone's psychology and instinct. It makes more sense to create a sub-race of workers whose instincts are to serve and do research.

>The US government is not in contact with them and is more afraid of them than anything else

The reason this is is due to the fact that there are still regular reports of UFOs doing shows of force by messing with and turning off nuclear weapons with light weapons. The US government's own documents (which are leaked but acclaimed fake by them) often talk about how they are afraid or don't know who or what they are.

They keep it all wrapped up because interjecting aliens into global politics would have disastrous results. Even if I were in their position, I'd still keep it secret.

People will worship the aliens, try to contact them, and there would be widespread chaos and panic over the doubt that the governments of the world can safeguard their people. It's better to have them believe they are the monopoly of force, not aliens.

>UFO activity radically picked up in the 1940s. As in really really picked up.

Will add in one post about what I think is the terrible truth of the universe.
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>>133265453
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>>133329143
The terrible possible redpill of the universe

>Take human tribalism and now apply it to spacefaring civilizations
>it is entirely possible that one race of aliens won and simply killed all other civilizations in a massive cull
>they create life because they see it as only life, not as unique just because it rose up on its own
>this means they won't just let new races of aliens form or evolve as it is just life but life that they didn't create.

>Humans do psychology experiments on the small scale like the college prison experiment
>aliens could have possibly just created or formed life on Earth to inject different psychological behaviors and instincts into the evolutionary process to do a planet-wide psychology experiment on civilization and its development with these traits they readily pick and choose

>they don't care about letting humans "ascend" as we are just a very large petri dish to them, just as any other planet that they didn't create is.
>in other words, ask yourself why ANYONE would want a new race of life rising up to possibly challenge their power monopoly in the universe
>why would they want humans to be a new power player?
>IN OTHER WORDS, the human race has a set time limit to where the experiment ends and they just blast us with a light and we all vaporize because again, life is just life to them and they can create it if they want to and its a net benefit if new species or organisms are instead created by their wise hands than growing in the wild (like random mold)

Very spooky
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Could ancient ayy lmaos be giants? I remember watching some Indian YouTuber who did videos on temples and mounds, would talk about how primitive humans couldn't build such things even if you assume they labored 24/7. He'd reference old newspaper articles on unearthed giant skeletons. Showed some kind of giant footprint outside one Indian temple (it was just a single footprint so probably BS, but it did look barefoot).
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>>133265453
Yes, i am 100% true they exist. And im sure there are LOTS of other civilizations. The universe is simply too fucking huge for life to happen only once. Have they made contact with us? Sadly i think no.. cus muh Fermi paradox. But who knows. Maybe they have and we dont even know it :0
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Also ignore all the reptilian. Aleids blabla whatver creepypasta faggots. Its all 100% fake trolls
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>>133265453
Anime is a plot by ayylmaos to condition humans to accept creatures with giant eyes and no noses.
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>>133313724
Are you swedes all this retarded?
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>>133329143
>often talk about how they are afraid or don't know who or what they are.
favorite quotes?
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>>133272868
File deleted anyone got a copy or can describe the picture? ????
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>>133329608
Prometheus in a nutshell. If you havent watched it go ahead
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>>133273697
U wot m8? Its this one
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The phenomenon exists. But we can't even begin to understand the details of it. And we probably won't be able to, until THEY show us how. So, even if Scientism, and the sciencefag Bishops thereof, were to stop dismissing it (great science there, faggots), they would not get anywhere. Lol, they can't even begin to understand how little they know about the Universe.
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>>133287855
Disclosure when? Is the goverment lying about life on Mars or the moon? What kind of technology did you see? Are we ready? Can you greentext your experience?
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>>133300250
what if they're making benevolent visits for science/observation similarly to how humans visit the wild and observe the animal's habits and occasionally 'abduct' one to check the health of and tag?
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It's statistically impossible that they don't exist, but I don't believe that they have visited us. We're not nearly that interesting.
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>>133271676
I saw two of these (one up close) near Seattle, WA.
Good luck kiddo, I still don't know if ET is real, and I've seen way more shit than triangles...
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>>133333223
There's also the high probability that they don't even have the necessary technology to visit us. People always like to portray aliens as super-advanced beings that can easily go to other planets, but I think that aliens would be around our level of advancement.
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>>133268004
Well the reptilian conspiracy has been around for along time, but david icke used it to sell his books to gullible retards and his schizophrenic followers.
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>>133267848

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLR_a1MAy9I

reminer that tall white skinned martians is scientifically plausible


https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00788R001900760001-9.pdf

also note this supposed remote viewing session from 1986 where the subject describes tall beings living on mars about a million years ago
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1561_celestial_phenomenon_over_Nuremberg

There was a large ufo battle over 16th century Nuremberg. Discs and cigar shapes were present, the most common type of ufo sightings.
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>>133335617
The rod & cigar shapes really seem to have gone out of fashion.
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>>133314554
you could say it's infinite
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>>133269554
thanks ive been looking for this
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>>133298342
>Relativity

Wow such insider knowledge anon, good job faggot
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tkf9nhT9lbc
please explain this
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>>133280698
>there's a galactic war to 'free' humanity
Implying humanity is worth an intergalactic war.
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>>133265453
Do aliens support National Socialism?
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>>133270632
Those "entities" are referred to as "the guardian at the threshold" in esoteric literature. The "astral" is a mind space and these manifestations represent deep fear psychology that must be overcome. I have met all sorts of creepy shit during my oobe´s, but the experience shifts once you push through the fear.

There are many archetypes that manifest from the subconsious, like snarling dogs and that sort of thing. Succubi sitting on you, unseen entities tugging at you and so on. I believe that all abductions including paralysis are related to sleep paralysis which is a spring board to oobe´s and astral experiences.
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>>133265453
I have seen craft twice. Don't know if they where Aliens but I would be surprised if humans could invite what I say with current technology.
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>>133265453
>So /pol/, are aliens real?
yes....they infest sanctuary cities
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>no one posted the Big Enchilada
You fucking retards, hear the Water-filter Salesman's take on it: https://youtu.be/_NVsyMalJXo
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