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If the latest election has taught us anything, it's that America is fed up with its "do-nothing" congress that's filled with incessant lobbyists and political horse-trading. Candidates like Bernie / Trump promised more radical change and had fires lit underneath their campaign as a result of that anger. So, maybe we need a new political movement that focuses heavily on the benefit of the people.

America will never accept Nazi ideologies of course, but perhaps we could adopt several elements from National Socialist rhetoric that are so appealing: Your nation's people are the most important resource, making it easy to be apart of something bigger than yourself, sharp political uniforms, and pushing an idealized version of the "New American" that wants to put a strangehold on the rampant Capitalistic corruption at the top. Congress should be pushing around companies in the interest of our country's people and have the authority to do so, not the other way around. Opponents would still call us Nazis, but in response we could point out that we hate Nazis just as much as a liberal would, specifically their focus on racial hierarchy that would never work here in America. Racial problems are a huge problem here in America as well, but America has and will always be strong because of its heavy immigration. This doesn't mean we should just let anyone who wants to come here do so, however.

Importantly, we should encouraged immigrants and native citizens alike to adopt the persona of the "New American".

> English should be made the official language of the "New American", who prioritizes American values over their ethnic roots (but still respects that past).

> The "New American" doesn't see other races as inferior, rather it sees the "Old American" as inferior/outdated. This would help mend racial discrimination by creating political discrimination in its place -- an acceptable form of discrimination even Liberals seem to employ willingly.

cont.
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>Your nation's people are the most important resource

That's stupid, everyone knows people who are in the same place too long start to find ways to stand up for themself. Best to keep the herds on the move.
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>>133219795
>strong because of its heavy immigration
Americucks everyone
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> The "New American" sees physical fitness as a necessary part of life. Physical education wouldn't be just kids hitting a tennis ball back and forth in highschool -- it'd be the sort of education that turns boys into men, girls into stronger women. Obesity is a huge problem in America, and I'm sure there'd be very few opposed to a more rigorous education that isn't sponsored by Coca-Cola.

> The "New American" adopts a very "us or them" mentality. He/she sees the traditional two-party system as fundamentally corrupt, and makes enemies of both democrats and republicans alike. This has to be a movement that dominates public opinion and does not give into the demands of the GOP or DNC like Trump/Bernie were beholden to.

> The "New American" deeply venerates the history of the United States, but understands that a new chapter is being opened. Flags such as the Confederate Battle Flag would be encouraged to be retired to museums. Perhaps a new flag better resembling a more unified national-socialist movement would be necessary.

> The "New American" sees voting not as a privilege one is born with, but is earned. We live in a day and age now where a direct democracy is capable through the advent of the internet. Representative democracy is a straight line to corruption through affiliates. Churchill wasn't wrong about Democracy being disavowed "after 5 minutes with the average voter", so perhaps a test of intelligence is needed to secure the right to make an impact on political decisions. This would be the goal of the "New American", who despises those who are apathetic to being involved in a political system. Those who don't care shouldn't even have the right to vote.

I could go on, but wanted to see /pol/'s opinion. Nazism/Swastikas/etc. just aren't ever going to make a difference in this country.
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>>133220060

Heavy immigration is the reason we've been so successful in such a short amount of time. Considering in the late 1700's we had barely a million or so pops, by the 1900's we increased to over a hundred million. That explosive population growth is in due part to massive immigration waves, and had they'd never occurred we'd never have the economy we do today.

What's important is that immigration policies reflect our desire for new American citizens, not people who are here just to send their money back home. Those are parasites. Money earned here should be spent here.
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Just call it Kekistan.
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>>133221016

Disgusting, no. The threads on /pol/ of your average "kekistani" are a great example as to why. We need to make a new movement less about what a bunch of white Nazi-LARPers think is funny, but rather a movement that encompasses a unified America during a time of so much divisiveness.

How many times have you run across someone that says they don't give a shit about American politics because they feel like their vote doesn't matter? They aren't wrong. It doesn't, most of the time. America has some of the lowest voter turnouts in the western world, and that disenfranchisement is a serious problem.

Even the average "kekistani" mocks the political process by creating some fake nation with Nazi-symbolism to trick Normies. This, in of itself, is a form of feeling disenfranchised. These memers have actually put THAT much time, effort, and dedication into a fake political movement than a real one.

Shouldn't that energy be best spent on things that matter?
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>>133221508
Kek, fine, only joking. Monitoring thread but your ideas are shit.

>Let's cuck on the southern flag for no good reason!

We do need more things to bridge the divide between ethnic and civic identity, though.
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>>133221508
>Shouldn't that energy be best spent on things that matter?

pottery
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>>133221644

That's my point in posting this thread though. I'm interested in what you'd think.

The Confederate Flag is just one of those tumultuous issues that I see where a symbol is propped up as "southern pride", when it's undeniably seated in a history of racism. Southern pride is certainly a good thing, as Southern culture is a distinct subset in American culture. Shouldn't that sense of "Southern pride" be more inclusive though? As someone who frequently visits New Orleans, a cosmopolitan city within the heart of the south, you realize pretty quickly that there are many who enjoy Southern living -- regardless of their race.

I've argued before that Southern pride should adopt a new symbol, which if they wanted could be reminiscent of the Confederacy, but distinctly anti-slavery. It's odd to me that Southern pride advocates of today say they don't see it as a racist symbol, but then fly a flag that was literally fought in the name of keeping slavery.

Outside of that, you have those who see the battle flag in a sense of "tradition", but I think people are just afraid to move on. People would rather create a divided community for the sake of a flag, and any person who holds true Southern pride wouldn't be so stuck on that fact.

The truth is that America, regardless of where you are, is never going to be a "white master race" country. You'd have to remove over a hundred million people, and several generations of history in America that propagated the idea of America being the land where one can "pursue happiness". Symbols that try to push white nationality will never fly in America as we know it today, the country that trumped Nazi Germany. It's like trying to form a Commie party, that would never fly either.

Repackage National Socialism in a family-friendly package though? Maybe we have something to work with here.
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>>133222536
Back to rebbit kiddo
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>>133219795
>America has and will always be strong because of its heavy immigration
Never go full civic nationalist
We're strong due to a massive natural resource base and that we have no competitors or rivals on our continent
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>>133222669

>/pol/ thread encouraging discussion on creating a new political ideology that could achieve many of the things people on this board fantasize about with their adulation for Hitler.

>"back to rebbit, kiddo"

Disappointing you'd waste time with a response like that than something that's more constructive (even if it's to rip me apart). It's clear you cared enough to post in the thread.

What you think matters to me, friend.


>>133222901

You aren't wrong about our natural resource base, but what's the point if we become lazy and fat disappointments? It's like we're the Roman Empire in its decline, where we're more interested in the next product in a line of smartphones than we are with the destruction of western values across our nation. Safe spaces, the complete lack of physical education, the encouragement of "healthy at every size", and the basic restrictions of free speech while disenfranchising people who really DO need help --- these are all self-destructive social policies.

Let me ask you this as well. How many people on here, including yourself, genuinely feel like you have no purpose in life other than your own selfish desires? Sure, you might make a company some money or entertain your circle of friends, but what sort of impact do you ACTUALLY make on this world before you expire?

Maybe you're a very small group of people where you might actually be remembered, but the average person in America only cares about making money to survive, then to live comfortably, then to live lavishly.

It's disgusting and needs to change.
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>>133223530
Your anti conf. flag cliches sounded like shilling.
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>>133219795
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>>133223672

If you can't understand the fundamental problems with using a flag of the confederacy to represent modern southern pride that notably has no slavery present, then I'm not going to waste anymore time on explaining myself.

Southern pride is a good thing, it just has a really poor argument behind the whole "it's not racist!" thing. If you believe in whites ruling blacks and want to be your own separate country to do that, then by all means fly a confederate flag everywhere in your private space.
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>>133224472
Obvious troll stop baiting me to reply
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>>133224701

A differing opinion isn't bait.

I don't mind though, I don't want this thread to be sidetracked by a relatively pointless Confederate flag debate.

I only brought it up to illustrate that it is one of the many things that divide our country racially. A new movement needs to base its divides on political differences, not racial ones.
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