Gentleman, it's time we expunge the notion that Christianity

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>>133191558

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>>133191558
Why do you hate Jesus Christ so much?

He's the best ethics philosopher of all time.

>>133191558

Jesus Lived

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>>133191558
Fuck off fag

>>133191781
this

>Gadsen flag (snake and the kike 666 on it)
>Made by freemasonic kike lovers
>Lolbergtarian OP doesn't understand the concept of folk is heavily tied to religion that was seen in NatSoc Germany and Franquista Spain (both were nationalistic and Christian).

Lolbergtarians are scum.

>>133191938
lives*

>>133191558
Burn in hellfire heathen.

>>133191921

Because he was a liar, if he even existed at all.

History is full of men who lied for fame and notoriety.

Once again: you cannot support nationalism and heritage and be a Christian. The two things are ideologically opposed to each other.

You have to choose one or the other. Every Christian on here would choose black Christians over white atheists, and thus must be shunned.

>>133191558
do not need to believe in God to be Christian (Christ follower), most do. practice is philosophy. theology is a science.

my plan, try to down play Evangelist, praise Orthodox. will stall christian spam.

>best christian

also:

>much protect freedoms.exe

>>133192479
>God lying
>choosing what /poltards say over what Gid says

>>133191558
>gadsden flag
>advocating protest against simple christians he chooses to engage with
well, OP? explain yourself.

>>133192815
God*

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>>133192479
Excuse me sir but you seem to be breaking the NAP but shunning people.

And yes, I would pick ten black Christians over one white atheist.

Fedora tippers are just awful.

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>>133191558
>>133192821

>>133192861

What's to explain?

I hate all religions. None of them are true.

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>>133192983
Thank you for destroying the west

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>>133191558
There is literally no reason to waste time attacking Christians, this is either foolish or D&C.

A message to White Christians:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnrT7yZEV-g

Is it Pagan?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_LHwKxcOIM

>>133192970

>And yes, I would pick ten black Christians over one white atheist.

See? We got a Christ-stain in this topic who even admits it.

He cares more about his stupid old UNTRUE stories than things like nationalism and heritage.

>>133192479
>turning countless middle-eastern niggers into decent men and woman
>not an absolute blessing and miracle for humanity
go tread on yourself fag

>>133191558
Nice try losers! Christianity will explode again once Pence mandates indoctrination in public schools.

MAGA
A
G
A

>>133192983
libertarians aren't subversive. mind your own business faggot

>>133192970
>praise the son.exe

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>>133193095
A righteous man can come from any nation God has declared.

There is no God, shouts the fool.

>>133191558
Wrong. It'd be the white atheists because we are called to unite the world under one church.

I would also say, that to not fight or struggle during having fucking nails driven through your bones and nerve bundles is pretty opposite of weak...

>god can't exist because Christians might act differently in a hypothetical scenario that will never become reality
This is not logic.

>>133193095
I'd rather have 10 black Christians also

>>133193198

Religions shape the laws of a country.

Look at the Middle East and their bullshit laws related to Islam.

A lot of our laws in America stem from religion. These things affect me.

>>133193279

There is no God. You have absolutely proof for the existence of any deity.

NatChris

>>133192479
Learn the teachings, neckbeard.

>>133193703

Christ-insanity isn't true and you know it.

>>133191993
>nationalistic christians
LOL what a nonsensical title. Christians are so fucking beyond stupid. Hence their incomprehensible beliefs (trinity doctrine)

>>133192479
>if he existed at all
>Calling Jesus a liar
Hello Schlomo

Extra-biblical sources

- Tacitus
- Josephus
-Mara Bar Serapion
- Pliny the Younger
- Suetonius

Later Extra-biblical source

- Talmud
- Toledoth Jesu
- Lucian


Additionally, scholars of all worldviews have soundly concluded that Jesus is a historical figure and that the Gospel narratives are in fact written in Greco-Roman method of history. Its rare today to see anyone deny this viewpoint. Jesus' family is mentioned by Paul in his letters to several churches, having also met with Jesus' disciples.

Jesus' death by crucifixion is considered as undeniable history. Crucifixion was considered to be so horrific at the time that the Greek never mentioned it, Jesus' Crucifixion is so embarrassing and horrible that it passes what is called the criteria of embarrassment.

Jesus' resurrection is also considered an early piece of historical evidence, since Paul mentions an early hymn in 1 Corth. 15, which has been hypothesized to have been said in local Christian churches in the first 5-10 years. Bart Ehrman has considered the resurrection narrative to being talked about 6 months to a year of Jesus' death, this leads to the conclusion of Jesus' existence and has lead to the possibility of Jesus resurrection being true even by the agnostics who don't believe in God.

Jesus' life is also considered as quite accurate. Maurice Casey, an agnostic/atheist has concluded that the gospel of Mark was written around 40 AD, 10 years after Jesus was killed. He was able to see Aramaic grammatical sentences, cultural ways of life in the gospel of Mark and how it accurate parallels the life of normal people around that time.

>>133193947
Yes, we are as opposed to kike loving amerikikes.

>>133191558
Ok rubio

>>133193892
Quite the opposite. You speaking to a person raised in the church. Then left the church and wandered between faiths and philosophies for 26 years. It was only through me actually trying to prove it a lie, that I found the truth. It's there if you want to find it

>>133191558
Well now we have an interesting trolley question. Would you kill 1 white atheist tied to a trolley rail in front of a switch, or would you redirect it towards 10 black Christians tied down on a second rail. Remember that pressing the button would violate the NAP as you would have ended their lives willingly, while the atheist's death would not. I personally think a man who doesn't hold up to his morals even with people who disagree with him is worthless in a free society.

I'm an atheist. Sage.

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>>133193998
>Talmud
Disgusting

Anyone agree with me in this topic?

Who let these religious fuckin' faggots on 4chan anyway? Isn't it a "sin" to post here hahaha.

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>>133191558
Jokes on you, I'm Japanese

https://youtu.be/NMLB7OcH-0Y

>>133195192
You appear to have put yourself into a corner. Don't smack a bee hive if you don't want to get stung.

>>133191558
Jesus blessed you with rationality to question his existence in him so only faith could lead you. Faith is for the rational, may you find peace in your faith, and nothing else. That's what God intended.

>>133195268

Uhh... some Japanese people are Christian.

Don't see how the jokes on me.

I know the native religion in Japan is Shinto. Do you believe in that shit?

All religions are false. All we can trust in is science, because at its most basic level science is nothing more than an agreed upon interpretation of the universe.

I say something is 20 feet, you say something is 20 feet, and eventually EVERYONE says something is 20 feet.

That's shit you can believe in. Not ancient old stories from the Middle East that aren't fucking true at all.

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>>133192479

> muh strawman

both are literally just as bad

you're nigger-tier, anon

>>133194809
I despise the Talmud, but even the kikes who hate Christ, mention him in it (to mock him).

>>133194330
>...
The niggers are only worth saving if they're practicing Christians. Non-practicing Christians might as well be athiests.

>>133191558
t. newfag

>>133195552
This is the same argument muslims use to argue islam is a religion of peace. You can cherry-pick and project just about whatever you want onto the religion, including nationalism and wrath. That doesn't change the fact that it's the source of "refugees welcome" tier cuckery.

>inb4 it's the foundation of western civilization
please tell me about how ancient Greece was christian. Even neoclassically, modern western civilization came to fruition and overtook the rest of the world with enlightenment philosophy, which is perennialism dressed up in christian culture, starting with Newton.

>the founding fathers were christian
Wrong.

>>133195825
Now you're just adding depth to the trolley question that shouldn't really be there...

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>>133191558
>Allow me to explain: Let's say there is a white evangelical Christian and he has to make a choice - he has to choose between living in a world populated solely by black Christians OR a world populated by white atheists. Which do you think he would choose?
>He would choose the black Christians,
>STRAWMAN
>STRAWMAN
>STRAWMAN
>STRAWMAN
>STRAWMAN
>STRAWMAN
>STRAWMAN
Atheism in a nutshell.
Kill yourself.

>>133191558
Christ wasn't too weak to defend himself from puny humans. He chose to not kill them all at Gethsemane.

>>133196020
>>133196020

You know it's true.

Christians care more about other Christians than someone of a similar skin color or whatever.

It's part of their cult... err... I mean religion.

How is it not embarrassing to believe in religion in 2017? No religion is true. It's fucking obvious.

>>133196176

A "God" who can get killed by puny humans is not a God worth worshiping.

>>133196248
God wasn't killed though was He.

>>133191558
Chr*stianity is also a poison because it made people so blind for racial differences whites might lose all their territories and go extinct because of it.

>>133191558
*tips autism*

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>>133195541

It's impossible to scientifically determine what exists outside of the universe, because it can't be observed directly by us. As such, signs sent from outside the universe are the only standard we can use to determine if there is anything out there at all. Which means that it's up to God's discretion to inform us about his existence, and given that free will exists, that interference must be minimal, because God throwing actual miracles all over the place would impinge on free will and mean that human moral choices would be less reflective of internal character.

Also, go back to smeggit with that formatting you faggot

>>133195920

Christianity is full of Greek philosophy you mong, because aside from Epicureanism none of it makes claims that are exclusively incompatible with Christianity. Furthermore, all of that old philosophy and theology was preserved and developed by Byzantium, a fundamentally Christian civilization and the continuation of the might of Rome - the more pagan Western Roman Empire was literally a poor shithole compared to the East, by the way. Then Protestants decided to misinterpret all of it and ruin everything.

The source of "refugees welcome" tier cuckery is Protestantism-spawned twice-heretical humanism, and your atheism is another product of that as well.

>>133196248

> unprincipled violence indicates strength
> ooga booga

>>133192613
Yes, to be a Christian you need to follow the teachings of Christ, which is inclusive of believing in God. If you want to be an autistic European who doesn't comprehend religion, move there.

Not believing in God doesn't make you Christian.

>>133196464
http://faithandheritage.com/2011/01/a-biblical-defense-of-ethno-nationalism/

>>133191558
I choose white atheists because I get to enjoy a standard of living that niggers cannot achieve and then get Heaven too whilst you fags rot in Hell.
It's a win-win but carry on spouting whatever bullshit you need to moslem scum.

>>133196248
>How is it not embarrassing to believe in religion in 2017? No religion is true. It's fucking obvious.

How in the fuck do you even believe this. Are you mad at your parents for making you get up early on Sunday or what. You're some sort of newage turbo cuck.

we haven't even mapped the oceans, but trust me when I say...

At least hide it, say I don't know. For fucks sake

The problem with christianity is that people get hung up on earth being 6,000 years old. At the same time, whether we like to admit it or not, almost all study of physics and aerospace are continued attempts to find god. Ultimately, the virtues extolled by white christians at least are objectively the best by which to live, regardless of how religious or not you are.

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>>133191558
Fuck off schlomo!

Atheists don't understand.
Science proves atheists can't understand because the part of their brain that deals with logic and problem solving doesn't work properly like it does in spiritually awakened people.
Poor dumb fuckers. We always knew this though. They are blind people insisting to fully sighted people that colours don't exist.
https://americanvision.org/12630/atheists-embarrassed-study-proves-atheism-uses-less-brain-function/

>>133196639
Mom: "Sweetie go to church :3"
OP: STOP FORCING YOUR FUCKING RELIGIOUS BS ON ME UNLIKE U I'M ACTUALLY REAL SMART AND KNOW THAT'S BS, UR RELIGION IF FUCKING ANNOYING GO KYS LADY YOU FUCKING IDIOT BITCH

>>133196692
A significant portion of Christians do not believe this
>The problem with christianity is that people get hung up on earth being 6,000 years old.

>>133191558
Why obsess about the dying races of the past
when instead you can help create the race of the future?

/pol/ is itself in complete disagreement to everything /pol/ says.
You're right about one thing, though:
Christians are very much the minority on /pol/

>>133196903
I grew up catholic, so I know way too many who do believe it.

God is real.

>We humans don't have will, our choices are decided by our genes and environment of which we didn't choose either.
>The planets didn't choose to exist, nor did the forces of motion
>The only thing that has will is the will itself, nothing created the will because the will is existence.
>The will is god

>>133191558
I am Christian and I would choose to live with the atheists depending on their approach on law and morality. All the black Christians i heard about are either criminals or sinners, they don't have faith, they only believe in God (I think) just for their own interests of being forgiven for their sins and malices.

>>133191558

Stop forcing your religious beliefs on people.

>>133196832
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxmYw4MmC9U

>>133197203
I'll do what I bloody well like

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>>133196578
>Christianity is full of Greek philosophy you mong
the same way Persia was full of Persian philosophy during the Golden Age of Islam, you mong. The point is the value comes from outside of Christian/Muslim doctrine, and when those are exclusively and purely followed, shit hits the fan

>your atheism
>implying

>>133197259

Was I talking to you?

>>133197343
Now you are

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>>133197343
Go to church and stop having extra marital sex or you're a shit cunt.

>>133197203
Stop forcing you non-religious beliefs on people. How bout dah ?

>>133197427

Aww. Bless your soul. I volunteered to help people like you once.

>>133196832

When I was a little kid I'd spaz and refuse to go to church because I wanted to play video games some more and hated waking up on time. A bratty lack of discipline and maturity certainly contributes to the rise of modern atheism - they say "oh but it's logically obvious xDDD", but they're just rationally justifying more primitive feelings of dislike.

Proof: logical arguments and evidence are only used as tools to win debates, not convince others
http://archive.is/QMBdG

>>133197092

What country are you in? That's not a Catholic position, it's mostly US Evangelicals.

>>133197273

Only Protestants exclusively follow Christian doctrine, and it's not even the original indigenous Christian teachings but rather modern attempts to decipher that from the Bible (even including the part that is literally just the Torah). I hesitate to use the term because muh scotsman, but real Christians and theologians don't leave out those parts or their value. And as I've said, they're not incompatible with Christian belief.

>implying

what are you my man

>>133197259
exactly and you'll account for it. When you do, will you have any criticism of the choices you've made?

>>133197516
>What country are you in?
USA. Minnesota to be exact.

>>133197448

As I'm christian, it would be difficult to force my non-religious beliefs on people.

Unless by my non-religious beliefs, you are just referring to my scientific, mathmatical etc beliefs. In which case, I reserve the right to impose calculus on anybody I want at any time.

It's called Mathsplaining. And yeah, I'm privileged.

>>133196248
>Christians care more about other Christians than someone of a similar skin color
We don't retard moron, stop forcing your autistic views on real people.

>>133197203
Stop forcing vibrators up your ravaged bum hole.

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>>133193592
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/125637346/#125637346

>>133197514
What does that even mean? Stupid gays (like you) contribute nothing to civilisation, they just take, take, take and destroy. Enjoy never having kids with the one you love as punishment. You parasite.

>>133197658

Never used one. Thanks.

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>>133197634
Shut up
Go away

>>133197743

Gays can be celibate, like the Mormons do. Thereby removing the whole problem.

>>133197743

That's rediculous. GAy people evolved to help clan units raise larger numbers of children. We have excellent brains for adoption of orphans and extra children.

>>133197784
If the shroud is authentic how does it prove he rose from the dead? I have faith he did, but I don't think this is proof.

>>133197799

Get behind me Satan.

>>133197760
Why are you fag on /pol/? we would literally lynch you if we could.

>>133195192
>sin to post here
I don't think 4chan was arounf when the Bible was written

>>133197931

You could try. I'm armed. :)

Either way, not all gays are Bolsheviks/Antifa

I voted Trump.

>>133197901
Seeing that you made the effort and took the energy to select that flag, tell us what traumatic incident made you gay.

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>>133197840
>excellent brains for adopting children

>>133197840
1) You are not needed anymore. Outdated software, causing the entire computer to lag.
2) Yes gays have contributed (Oscar Wilde, Alan Turing etc) but they are the exception, most are stupid useless gays like you.
3) Join a church and live your life as a lie and you can still contribute and maybe even be happy.

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>>133191558
>thinks the issue is about race not because atheists are terrible people
I would take christians over atheists any day. Atheists are literally whiny faggots.

>>133196248
>hasn't read the book of Revelation

>>133196331
He did die but came back alive

>>133197840
No sane person would trust a known fag around kids. That's why they all become priests so they're above suspicion and then molest altar boys.

>>133198081

Never molested.

>>133198208
Dad wasn't around, parents divorced at a young age, sexually assaulted by the neighborhood bully... what?

>>133191984

Wow look mommy that man is made of straw!

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>>133197516
Fair enough. It's to Christian Europe's credit that they held on to those aspects and allowed the Enlightenment to evolve in its fold. But the founding fathers were deeply distrustful of organized Christianity and were mostly Deist. Perhaps their failure to incarnate their ideology (which eventually became American Transcendentalism) in an institutional form has led to the degeneration of the west

>what are you my man
I tend to agree with Schrodinger, Wigner, von Neumann, etc., who believed in basically a scientifically modern form of Vedanta, which is isomorphic to Perennial philosophy, if you want a more explicitly western interpretation of it. Emerson brought it into a distinctly American mindset, if you're into that.

>>133198101

Everybody needs to go to Church. Going to Church is what ultimately makes people contribute more to society.

Many gays left the Church.

Many are coming back.

There are a lot like myself that want to be monogamous, raise families and live conservative lives. I personally believe gay people were created with a number of traits to make them better adopters. Bolsheviks and Cultural marxists have destroyed this purpose and wrecked gay people in the process. There is not gay community. Its like mass psychosis substituted for culture. It's changing though.

>>133197634
Your homosexuality is a non-religious belief.

>>133196903
because they're heretics

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please go back to 8ch already

>>133191558
Shill thread detected

Kill yourself leftypol

>>133198310

WONDERFUL parents. Honestly I hit the jack pot. They love me way more than I deserve. I was raised in the Church, with a great Church family, and I lived a pretty sheltered suburban existence.

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>>133192815

(((God)))

>>133198450

Haha. Jokes on you. It's impossible to define religion.

>>133198208
How can you be 'gay' if you've never been molested or molested anyone else. It's literally what defines - gay.
You should just stop it. It's wrong.
Go away until you are a better person.

>>133198434
Gay people are not better _______. They are people who have been traumatized and are trying to rationalize the event through self sacrifice, or are smothered by vanity or both.

>>133198541
You were adopted and abused in the orphanage? Right? Have you blocked that out of your memory?

>>133198585
>I believe that I am today acting according the purposes of the Almighty Creator. In resisting the Jew, I am fighting the Lord's battle.
Larp somewhere else.

>>133197896
Then where's the body

>>133198434
Look into the studies done into same sex marriage adoption. Even if you and your partner turn out to be fantastic parents, if you adopt a child with another man you are tacitly agreeing with and promoting the suffering of so many children.

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>>133198502

Don't strain yourself with those mental gymnastics.

>>133198770
>christianity
>meek and flabby
All you can do is take quotes out of context while willfully ignoring the history of an entire continent. It's sad that you've been reduced to larping here.

>>133198635

Yeah... that's retarded. There's a region of your brain that controls the body ratios you are attracted to. INAH-3 in humans. It develops one way or another.

This is what's funny, many conservative christians and super liberals have the same fear of neurology.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xp0xfd_brainwashing-in-norway-part-3-gay-straight_news

Neither liberal social scientists nor conservative Christians want to recognize this.

>>133198748
I have faith he did rise from the dead. The missing body is one example of evidence, but my point was I don't think the shrouds authenticity is proof, though I do want to visit it now.

>>133191558

Let's he fucking clear here faggot - Christianity was intended to persuade the goyim to 1. Worship the canaanite god adonnai as the one true god 2. Have them worship a jew as the son of god.

It destroyed the white peoples' link to their creator, which is likely Azazel or Amalek. In fact, jews believe all whites are descended from the original aryans, the sons of amalek.

But it backfired. Whites formed a new sense of nationality and common heritage based on christianity. Its origibal subversive intent was lost. Christianity has its uses in that it gives whites s common identity. That is the end of its utility. It is not the truth - it is a lie based on the smallest quantum of truth.

Nephilim. Watchers. Amalek. Adonnai. Enki. Enlil. The truth is out there goyim. This is a fight for the future dominion of the world and you are fighting it against those who seek to destroy you.

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I plead with my fellow pious Muslim brothers to please view these Blac Chyna nudes with extreme caution, for once you do you will no doubt never be the same as the horrific images will haunt your dreams for the rest of your days. Of course if you are an infidel you will no doubt be quite pleased by the sight of this bloated ass baboon of a woman, and her nasty banged out cock box.

Atheists, do yourself a favor tonight.
Accept that while the existence of God seems unlikely and highly specious, there's no way to definitively "prove" he doesn't exist. We can scientifically argue that since his existence cannot be proven, he must therefore not exist until such time that scientific evidence for his existence presents itself.
But do yourself one favor: Lie in bed, close your eyes, and before you drift off to sleep, introduce yourself to "God", tell him your name, tell him briefly about your life thus far. Tell him you don't believe in him and ask him if he's real to present yourself to him. Ask him to make his presence known. Not physically, but his "presence." Give "God" a week and thoroughly keep an open mind. You can't truly be an atheist until you wholeheartedly call on God with the purest of intentions and still find nothing there.
Be honest and post back here in a week.

>>133198770
Cos he was fucking genius. Never lost a battle. All his men respected his decisions, and the results of his actions vindicated his perception.
Failed dictators are always the ones you should follow uncritically.

>>133198740

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Nazi_Germany

>Nazis
>Christian

Yes goyim, and the catholic church and all Christians everywhere are responsible and must also pay reparations for being responsible for the 6 gorillion

>>133191558

Sorry OP can't do that... I love other Christians...Just so much. I'm going to work with tens of thousands of Christian churches across ALL denominations and make sure that every savage black and brown person on the planet is brought into white countries and given benefits so they can breed eight children.

I'm ALWAYS going to turn the other cheek...I'm not going to lift weights or learn martial arts...If someone wants to beat my ass I'll be totally unprepared and just let it happen. My wife and daughters? I don't mind if they rut with huge black bucks, because at the end of the day I know Jesus loves me. And me and Jesus will love the litter of mulatto children whelped from the loins of my wife and daughters.

Also, I love Jews. Jews and Israel are just so fucking good. I will ignore the mountain of evidence to the contrary. Fuck you OP.

FUCK. YOU. OP.

>>133198902
You're literally trying to justify neurological conditions that manifest as gay, just like the trans community tries to justify their condition with Klinefelter's syndrome.

>>133199007

Marduk.

I used to think Christianity was absurd.

About a year ago, I was called to Christ. I finally understand what it means to "have the eyes to see." All the stuff I once thought was trite and ridiculous now ensconces an awe-inspiring amount of meaning and mystery. Christ's teachings literally came alive for me. It's like a two-dimensional word lifted itself off the page and transformed into a luminous, moving, three-dimensional object.

God can change your heart. When it happens to you, you know it's real.

>>133198751

This is the problem with people like you. You only read memes and have a topical understanding of science. The meme that went around a week ago saying that gay parents had children with higher rates of depression and abuse was intentionally misquoted. It specifically states the gay people were adopting children that had been abused and the findings were correlated with that.

There are TONS of studies on gay men (maybe not lesbians, but who the fuck cares about them anyway), being excellent fathers. There are tons of neurological adaptations they have that make them more empathetic to infants and children. There are studies from many different fields that show this.

When women are pregnant they release pheromones that make certain regions of the brain in other estrous women more active at the sound of an infant crying. Straight men don't react to these pheromones, and this region of their brain doesn't light up. IT does with gay men, just like straight women, after they are exposed to the pheromones. There are tons of neurological differences that have been found in gay men. Its funny pol loves showing studies on the differences between men and women but never on gay people and straight people. When they do, they intentionally misquote it and relay in memes that get a lot of attention, but are ostensibly false.

Why is that?

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>>133198386

I agree with Perennialism's fundamental tenet, but also think that the purest expression of divine truth is Orthodox Christianity (pretty predictable given my previous posts, I suppose.) As I've previously stated, metaphysical truths cannot be divined as easily as physical truths, so it is understandable that there is so much variation in spirituality - but the direct word of the Universe Creator is superior to all other attempts to pierce the veil, in my view.

Indeed, Brahmanic thought gets a lot right and many of their moral conclusions are sound, but the biggest problem with the Eastern religions is that they tend to focus on materialism and tuning oneself to bodily sensations to experience divinity, which is completely converse to Christian thought. The cosmology shares certain similarities as well. I find it interesting that the philosophies and religions promoting one central divinity (whether it is exclusionary to other divine/demonic entities, or encompasses them) are much more successful than those that do not.

>Current year
>Still arguing the existence of some middle eastern prophet and his relevance to European whites

>>133199154
that's a weird strawman to erect I wasn't even calling the entirety of them christians what the hell

>>133199183

Not even remotely close comparison.

These were studies all targeted at gay men. You are woefully ignorant. Just embrace the stereotype.

Hey which gene is it that makes you male BTW, do you even know?

>>133198843

>>133198843

I'm not taking anything out of context. I've researched the topic of religion in nazi germany extensively. More than will fit in a post on /pol/.

To put it in very simplistic terms. The nazi regime was no friend to christianity. Long term it sought to establish a civic religion which would encorporate the traditional frame of Christian values with Nordic and germanic paganistic nationalistic influences.

And yes. Hitler was right. Christianity is meek and flabby.

Atheists don't understand.
They cant understand because the part of their brains that deal with logic and problem solving don't work properly like they do in the spiritually aware.
Poor dumb fuckers. They are blind people insisting colours don't exist to the fully sighted.
https://americanvision.org/12630/atheists-embarrassed-study-proves-atheism-uses-less-brain-function/

>>133191558
>divide and conquer

Fuck off.

>>133199312
Show me one piece of evidence from these TONS of studies about gay men being excellent fathers.

Also

>When women are pregnant they release pheromones that make certain regions of the brain in other estrous women more active at the sound of an infant crying. Straight men don't react to these pheromones, and this region of their brain doesn't light up. IT does with gay men, just like straight women, after they are exposed to the pheromones. There are tons of neurological differences that have been found in gay men.

So fucking what?

>>133199476

> Christianity is meek and flabby.

Hmm, where'd the pagans go?

>>133199348
>tfw this is their main threat right now

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>>133198386

REQUIRED READING/LISTENING

THE ANTICHRIST

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThFvNiuvfF8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThFvNiuvfF8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThFvNiuvfF8


>>133193279
>>133196176
>>133197516

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>>133199476
>I know all this stuff therefore your argument is invalid I just cant post it or prove it or anything
stop

>>133199435
Sad when you are so ashamed of yourself you refuse to take responsibility for your own actions and grasp at straws to shirk responsibility.
Like so many others you could easily recover from your illness if you were a better person.
You can go away now. Don't feel you need reply, it'll only be more crap and we've heard it all before.

>>133199403

It's been made the public perception today that the nazis were acting by the bible.

When an isis attack happens or someone criticises modern islam the very next thing stupid bland people will say is "but what about the nazis?" It annoys me. But probably not for the same reasons it would annoy the majority of people.

It's not that I don't like the christianity being erroneously associated with Nazism. It's the opposite. I don't like Nazism being erroneously associated with christianity.

>>133199651

I thought their main threat was cultural marxism?

>>133199312
Its funny you reference such studies when their is monolithic proof (through the study of IQ development factors) that the synapsis and cognitive function of the brain develop and cement during certain specific times of an individuals life. Most evident between the ages of before 5 and around the ages of 19-22 for males. So what happened anon, tell us about the event that caused the distortion.

>>133199602
Logic and consistency aren't required when clutching at straws to maintain denial.
In the next breath they complain that Christianity caused all the bloodshed ever.
Silly little niggers.

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>>133199813
Nazism fucking failed and who do you blame it on?
Look faggot, the most you can do is tell us what we already know. The decline of Christianity in the West has led to a rise of degeneracy. You only want to disingenuously frame it as being Christendom's fault and not those degenerates that turned away from it. Stop killing God you worthless prole.

>>133199869
haven't you heard about muslims in europe

>>133199572

Here's one.

You only asked for one, and I'm trying to find the others. Give me a few minutes.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/the-neuroscience-of-my-gay-dadmom-brain

If you pick the Christian black world, the blacks, if they remain christian. would in some time involve into white people, and if the white people they involve into maintain their religion the whole world will be a better place.

>>133200044
Checked. You forgot to archive that
https://archive.is/xyV5C

>>133199718

It's very well documented. There was even am institute created to "re-imagine christianity" that produced edited bibles.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Grundmann

>>133199756

I asked for pity? I'm actually pretty proud of myself and where I've come in life.

You sound pretty perky. Too much late night coffee?

>>133200045

True to an extent: if you look at the Middle East and Eastern Africa, Christian cultures like the Copts and the Ethiopians are more developed and less barbaric than the Islamic ones

But West / Central / South Africans can't be tamed

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>>133191558
I accept no such thing.

>>133200044
>Isreali researchers
>'Though he cautions against drawing too many conclusions from this particular study'
>No data cited at all, just markmans opinion on the data

Why would you send me this one?

>>133191558
>pic related

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>>133199305

I know that feel bro

>>133199718

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_for_the_Study_and_Elimination_of_Jewish_Influence_on_German_Church_Life

Does this not jive with your world view of a "Christian nation?"

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2002/01/13/weekinreview/word-for-word-case-against-nazis-hitler-s-forces-planned-destroy-german.html?referer=

>>133191558
"people" like you are why fedoras will also be gassed

"No man takes my life, I choose to freely give it"- Christ

I'm a white evangelical Christian. I'd choose the world with atheists. Even a one eyed man is a leader among the blind.

>>133199990

Yes, I have. And it's globalists and marxists behind the NGOs and campaigns that bring them in.

Muslim immigrants are just the symptom. The disease is globalism and marxism.

>>133200459
and they are all jews, do you think that's a coincidence too?

>>133200376
Cheers anon. God bless.

nice one,but sorry i mean stupid one, non sense

>>133199983

The decline of Christianity has nothing to do with the "rise of degeneracy."

Christianity is a baby religion in world terms. Great civilisations existed and fell before it came to fruition.

There are many reasons for the decline in values we see now. The retreat of one particular religion among hundreds is not one of them. It's laughable to suggest it is.

>>133200577
inb4 "oy vey, yes pure coincidence"

>>133191558
XD

>>133200577

Not every marxist or globalist is a kike. They have their useful idiots too. Cali and NY is full of them.

Wheres that gay dude finding me articles about how gay adoption is 'excellent'? I'm still waiting bro

>>133200732
>the decline of a system of morality has nothing to do with an increase in degeneracy
Are you always this disingenuous?

>>133200356

sorry, didn't realize you were autistic.

>>133191921
>He's the best ethics philosopher of all time.
He really isn't. His philosophy isn't particularly special or innovative.

>>133200867

http://www.nbcnews.com/health/kids-health/children-same-sex-parents-are-healthier-study-n149901

>>133200922
>not being bullshitted is autistic, fuck off

>libertardians

>>133200139

Jesus died for our sins, including homosexuality, but you still have to be repentant about it. As a disorder that essentially prevents out-of-the-closet gays from bearing children, gay sex can only serve as an indulging of lustful urges, without any higher impulse driving it. Which is about as unChristian as you can get.

Furthermore gays promote the spread of further degeneracies like transsexuality and pedophilia by their very existence, since they necessarily break down cultural roles to insert their identities, so nowadays you have people saying things like "children are sexual beings", which wouldn't have been possible without the widespread success of the LGBTQ movement and its accompanying loosening of public morals.

If you are closeted, celibate, or repentant, or even just a closeted total degenerate, I am fine with you. In the former situation, society knows this stuff is bad and your spiritual health is retained. In the latter, you will pay for your actions, but nobody else has to be affected except your similarly-tainted partner.

>>133200732

> Christianity is a baby religion in world terms. Great civilisations existed and fell before it came to fruition.

2000 years old is like a third of the whole time large-scale civilization has existed, it's not exactly shabby.

> There are many reasons for the decline in values we see now. The retreat of one particular religion among hundreds is not one of them. It's laughable to suggest it is.

> the almost-totality religion in the area where the degeneracy is rising is on the decline, and so is morality
> a coincidence

wew

>>133200444

If I had to pick, agreed, but honestly I'd rather have a planet devoid of mankind than choose either option

>>133200981
Of course the kike news network is pushing homo degeneracy, do you actually believe mainstream news has any credibility for anyone on /pol/.
They forgot to mention the part where the kids aren't healthy in the head.

>>133191921
>best ethics

Not the best, just the most fairytailish.
We all strive to help one another, human beings have evolved such, and at one point at a time we are not deaf to someone else's suffering.

But to try and save everyone is naive, it is just a fairytail for kids.
What we must do is establish a world where man is judged by what he does and who he is.

Group judgement is the most archaic idiotism of them all. It might have applied in ancient times, but humans have evolved so far socially that it is not applicable, maybe in parts of Africa but otherwise no.

The line of thought that everyone can and must be saved is one of both religion and communism, both wrong at the same time.
Salvation, yet again, is earned by deeds.

We have to realise that we do not need the lower workforce anymore. We don't have the money to spare. We can't kill them either, but rather sterilise over time.

Utopia is not a place where everyone is well off, but where everyone is judged solely by their deeds and merits.

>>133200867

http://www.psychologicalscience.org/media/releases/2010/vasey.cfm

>>133201285
BRING IN MORE MUSLIMS!

Ironic flag is ironic.

>>133201285

> Utopia is not a place where everyone is well off, but where everyone is judged solely by their deeds and merits.

So Christianity, then?

>>133201136

I hear a bunch of egotistical ranting filled with some poorly thought out theology.

I don't really listen to false prophets. Have a nice day.

>>133200981
>healtheir
Holy shit you actually think it's better for a kid to have 2 gay larents than 2 normal parents. Not kust the same but better.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>133201285
Wait, you think Christianity judges people for the sins of someone else or do you have a poor understanding of original sin?

>>133201136
No
read Romans 1:21-32
fags can't be saved

>>133201230
If you can't find the study from the article, then you are a product of the public education system.

Go tell the NEA. I don't care.

>>133191558
sage

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>God is real
>Jesus was real
>Jesus was enlightened
>The bible is (((propaganda)))
>You don't need to worship Jesus as an idol or personal saviour
>You just gotta commune directly with God like Jesus did (Christ-consciousness)

>>133201585

It's evolution, and It's part of God's plan. There are always going to be orphans. God has a built in adoption system for them. Are you this dense? I guess that's how God made you :)

>>133201561
Seems like you only listen to what you want to and don't consider anything that may possibly be against your narrative....

>>133201538
>Christianity
>meritocratic and realistic

Being promised some false ethereal plane for being a servant to others is not meritocracy.

Christianity shamed core human virtues like pride into being sinful for one. In Christ all men who accept him are equal, which is silly.

>>133201752

No thanks Mahayana.

Assuming these would be genuine, God-fearing, and respectful Christians, of course I'd pick the black Christians. Most of their issues would be wiped out immediately and traded for a sense of Christian brotherhood

>>133191558
Jesus is Lord
And while I sympathize with my fellow whites, If I have to make a choice I will choose my God every time. Why fear a man who can kill my body and not the god that can kill my soul?

>>133201852
>Most of their issues would be wiped out immediately
That's where you're wrong. They reproduce too quickly for that.

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>>133201643
The study is also bullshit, all fucking lies
>If you can't find the sources from this article you are a product of the public educational system
Shut your aids infest mouth you queer, I think you've spouted enough shit for today.

>>133201808

Not every word is from God. A simpleton does not give advice to a scholar.

>>133201974

You sound like antifa now. Good job.

>>133201776
Yes and you not spreading you're genetics and blood to the next generation is also part of God's plan you dead end prick.
I rather be dead on the street then have fag parents.

>>133201776
>God wants gays to adopt
Kinda dobt it when he doesn't want them to live

>>133201462
The difference between a gay uncle looking after his nieces and nephews IN A TRIBAL SETTING and two gay men adopting a random child (IN THE MODERN WORLD) are incredible.

>Do these findings have any meaning outside of Samoa? Yes and no. Samoan culture is very different from most Western cultures. Samoan culture is very localized, and centered on tight-knit extended families, whereas Western societies tend to be highly individualistic and homophobic.

>>133201852

Another Christ-stain admits it.

A Christ-stain would rather be around black Christians than white atheists.

That's why you can't support nationalism and heritage and then turn around and support Christ-insanity, gentlemen.

You must oppose these superstitious fools on here whenever they appear. They should fuck off back to the Middle East where their ancient old UNTRUE stories allegedly took place if they care so much about them.

>>133201847
WHY THE FUCK NOT CUNT???

>>133202115

I have other gay family members. They adopted two children that weer abandoned basically by their families. They have a very inspiring story. Unless of course you're Satan, and hate gay people.

>>133191558
we will round you up with the mudslims in the future

>>133202051
Except I don't our governments to be destroyed and gays to have rights?
Last time I saw Antifa is the oppodite of me.
And Antifa is also what, like half homosexual?
Just stop writing shit really, is it your goal to come here daily and be insulted untill you can't breath? Typical faggot.

>>133201847

Buddhism promotes a shallow copy of human existence as perfection. Sangha lifestyle is retarded, and it misses some of the greatest gifts God gave to his creation. Namely, family.

>>133202267
You will be saved from the day of the rake

>>133202224
>Unless of course you're Satan, and hate gay people.
Did you mean God?
Romans 1
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

>>133202217
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>>133202351

Temple prostitution does not equal gay people.

>>133202197
White atheists will die with no babies to be replaced by blacks so whats the point of beeing around them and carrying the mental trauma of watching such a thing slowly ensue, might as well dive straight into the blacks.

>>133202332
Been reading up on some Zen Buddhism recently, haven't seen anything about not starting a family yet.

And I'm pretty sure lots of Buddhists have kids.

>>133201838
"in Christ" being the operative phrase
You seem like a gullible person who's projecting. If your literal malarkey were true then western civilization would have ceased all advancement because it would have suffered ego death at the time of adopting Christianity.

>>133201561

> typical gay response

Well, pearls before swine and whatnot

>>133201838

A man who fully accepts Christ is the pinnacle of morality. Indeed, if you can actually do it, you will reach the highest highs of Heaven, and because virtue is the only thing that matters after death, you will be equal to all others who have done it. But only literal saints can do that, and there aren't many of those.

Pride slows all inclination towards self-growth. Rampant self-doubt is not a strength either, but quiet humility is not a bad thing.

>>133202448
>says men who lust after men
>not gay people
not suprised the fag can't read

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>>133199706
>REQUIRED READING/LISTENING
Required Reading: The Bible

>>133202520
This time can we gas the gays, for real?
It clearly was a mistake letting them live.

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>>133202562
Only KJV though

>>133202471

In Buddhism family is only another attachment to be shed in search of Nirvana. If you already have a family, then you're stuck. If you don't have one, it is discouraged, and the monastic lifestyle is always promoted as the ideal. When you were talking about Jesus being enlightenment I specifically thought you were from a Mahayana tradition because of their syncretic tendencies.

>>133200981
parental gender may play a role in child health and wellbeing, highlighting research that scores both lesbian and heterosexual mothers better in measures of effective parenting than heterosexual fathers [12]. They argue that mothers are more emotionally invested in raising children than fathers are in general, which has been supported by other authors [41, 42, 43] and includes research by Gatrell (2005, 2010) and Golombok (2010) [40, 44, 45]. The research conducted by Golombok et al. in 1997 suggests that absent fathers may be detrimental to self-rated cognitive and physical competence [46]. One area that many authors are in agreement on however is that there is a lack of research looking at male same-sex parented families [47]. While it cannot be assumed that the findings described by Stacey and Biblarz suggest children with gay male parents would perform poorly in their health and wellbeing outcomes, Cameron (2009) argues that all too often authors erroneously extrapolate results from research on lesbian parenting to the whole range of same-sex families [48] and as such outcomes from lesbian headed families should not be directly applied to gay male families. Only seven studies have considered gay fathers. One of these studies, conducted in 2010 in the Netherlands, compared children with gay biological fathers to children with heterosexual, married, biological fathers and found that overall there was no difference in child wellbeing. When the gay fathers perceived stigma however their children did show poorer psychological outcomes [49]. It should be noted that this research looked at families where gay men donated sperm as part of a kinship arrangement and the children were not being raised in mother absent families. To date there is no substantial research looking at the health and wellbeing of children residing from birth with gay male parents and conclusions cannot therefore be drawn about their health and wellbeing in this setting.

>>133201984
>Not every word is from God.
You're right, because you've been enticed to continue being gay.

>A simpleton does not give advice to a scholar.
So play either part and convince me why you're the complete ambiguity of Christianity and evolution with a meaning.

>>133202640
Literally from the study your article cited you stupid fuck

>>133202224
Anecdotal "evidence" is not evidence.

>>133202351
>Romans 1

Copypasta ROFL

21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.

24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

Its literally about temple prostitution.

>>133202613
>When you were talking about Jesus being enlightenment I specifically thought you were from a Mahayana tradition because of their syncretic tendencies.

I'm not really from any specific tradition but I enjoy calling myself a Zen Kekist, hence the golden frog.

>>133191558
I'd actually pick the white atheists, but nice guess anyway

Reminder that both jews and christians learn to lie with the same source, their sacred texts:
Ever remember seeing a christian blatantly lying by reinterpreting scripture and taking things out of context with their bibles and changing meanings? Jews do it all the time.

>>133202723
Where soes it say "temple prostitution"
it literally says men lusting after men

>>133202640
Top kek, so there is actualy truth in the study, the fags are just twisting the words up to make up bullshit.
I didn't even want to click on the Jewish bullshit article to start with.

>>133202788
shut the fuck up

>>133202640

It literally says says lesbians are better than straight men... did you notice that.

also, studies doen on gay men were done more recently.. it was the earlier one I linked to . derp.

>>133202817
See
>>133202788

>>133202877
We're talking about faggot dads you twisty cunt.

What fucking study?

>>133193196
Is that not unconstitutional?

>>133202788
Christianity is descended from Judaism
Does this mean both are equally bad?
White People are descended from niggers.
Does this mean both are equally bad?

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>>133202788
>Ever remember seeing a christian blatantly lying by reinterpreting scripture and taking things out of context with their bibles and changing meanings? Jews do it all the time.
And nonbelievers do the same thing? What is Truth?

>>133202817

do you understand what an idol is? Do you understand what city he was writing to ?

It's always the low IQ christians that come on to these sites looking for validation for the least amount of biblical scholarship.

I'm done for tonight kids. Worse than arguing with BLM.

>>133191558
Nice Try Rabbi

>>133199342
>the direct word of the Universe Creator is superior to all other attempts to pierce the veil
what do you consider to be the direct word of the Creator, and why?

>they tend to focus on materialism and tuning oneself to bodily sensations to experience divinity
This is an aberration in the same way that pure protestantism is. You should check out the writings of Adi Shankara if you're curious, especially his commentary on the Upanishads and Vivekachudamani

>>133202986
No, we do not haste to reinterpret reality with a magic book taking things out of context.

>>133202895
We are not twisting anything up, we are stating that Gay people are retarded sinners and should die, while this faggot is posing as Christian and twisting it up to make us believe we are wrong.
The faggot is actually the Jew.

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>>133202992

>>133202992
you're gay.

May you find PEACE BE WITH YOU.

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>>133203075
Why aren't you keeping the law? Says here it doesn't go away till heaven and earth pass away.

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>>133203052
So just because we interpret things "slowly" means we're doing it right?

Again, what is Truth?

>>133203052
If you are so smart, what is reality then?

>>133203157
Truth is what is correct.
>>133203163
Realith is all there is in spite of your perception.

>>133203151
We are keeping it, why shouldn't we?
Also please remove the cross from your flair.

>>133203075
I hate it so fucking much. I know for a fact this person would beat me in a debate in person because he lies so much and I would have to take his word for it. Thats the beauty of pol you can fact check this bullshit.

>>133203151
all was fulfilled when he died

and you do realize Jesus changed OT laws right. Oh wait you probably haven't actually read it

>>133203228
I asked what it is, not wether it's there or not.

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>>133203151
Who do you think Jesus was referring that specifically to? And what do you think His dying on the Cross symbolized and accomplished?

>>133203260
Fullfilling means you have to fullfill it too.

>>133202992
look into the etiology of homosexuality, very very very rarely does it occur.

The biggest problem with Christianity is that it teaches people to sacrifice themselves for others without consideration of whether or not the other person is worth saving. Turn the other cheek, be a good samaritan, etc. Every single person is assumed to be worth saving. Christianity was probably one of the largest contributors to this aspect of our culture, which has resulted in the shit we're all tired of seeing today. Bend over backwards to help the needy (even when the needy are shitskins from the worst parts of the world who want nothing more than to rape our women as they tear apart everything our ancestors built.

That said, modern Christianity is at least partially resisting leftist crap. There's really no reason to abandon it at this point, we need to be returning to our roots and try to become more similar to the society that made America great in the first place. Also, keep in mind that most of the younger women who don't try to suck every dick that enters a 5 foot radius are only well-behaved because they were raised as Christians. Christianity really is one of the last institutions that is supportive of traditional values and it needs support, even if you don't believe. I'm saying this as an atheist.

>>133203293
And I already answered, it is a simple yet deep answer, covers both needs.

>>133203296
You're expected to follow his footsteps, not ignore them.

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>>133202943
Burn the Constitution

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>>133203228
>Truth is what is correct.
A tautology isn't a definition. Who is correct when interpreting the Bible. What makes me more correct than your interpretation? What is Truth?

>>133203387
The bible isn't truthful

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>>133203377
>You're expected to follow his footsteps, not ignore them.
God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth. (John 4:24)

>>133203304
which he did

>>133203324
>The biggest problem with Christianity is that it teaches people to sacrifice themselves for others without consideration of whether or not the other person is worth saving. Turn the other cheek, be a good samaritan, etc. Every single person is assumed to be worth saving. Christianity was probably one of the largest contributors to this aspect of our culture, which has resulted in the shit we're all tired of seeing today. Bend over backwards to help the needy (even when the needy are shitskins from the worst parts of the world who want nothing more than to rape our women as they tear apart everything our ancestors built.

Do you really think Christianity would have gotten this far if that was all true? Read the bible, I think you've been lied to.

>>133203421
Why are you more truthfull and wiser then the bible?
So far you've only demonstrated rage and zero logic, and have not been capable to explain what reality is, while claiming you believe in it.

>>133202457
>Am atheist
>Have fiance
>Plan for children
>Read comment
Welp, I guess I'm gonna have to cancel my plans because the internet can't be wrong.

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>>133203421
That's what the Holy Spirit tells me.

Also if you've ever taken the time to read the Bible, you'd realize this fact is self-evident.

>>133203449
And you're not worshipping in truth because you don't follow in his footsteps.
>>133203481
If reading the bible you learn how to practice christianity, then none of you are practicing it correctly.

>>133203151
>hey idiots this random verse might tangentially contradict you in a way that I won't explain
>>133203421
>lol the bible is stupid

Like pottery. He brings a single passage against us, then calls for the whole book to be thrown away.

>>133203547
>>133203563
The bible isn't truthful, its contents don't correspond with reality, you follow the teaching to the letter and the miracle doesn't happen, it does not correlate with truth even slightly.

God exists, surely, but it isn't the one in your book.

>>133203387
'that which is true or in accordance with fact or reality.'

What do you think truth is?

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>>133203565
>And you're not worshipping in truth because you don't follow in his footsteps.
No, let's try again.

My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. (John 10:27-28)

Why don't you take some time to actually listen to what Jesus said? Read or listen to the Bible starting from the New Testament.

>>133203151
>>133203304

The New Testament is just that - it is a Testament of the new Covenant between God and his followers on the meaning of righteousness and a holy life. The New Covenant also states that all must accept Jesus, barring Jews outright unless they sincerely convert.

Besides, Church tradition and teachings are indistinguishable from the Bible, unless you're talking to cancerous biblical literalists. The complete Bible is a reflection of the Early Church, and not meant as a strict code of law like the Torah / Old Testament was - the manner in which the Church interprets the Bible is the valid one, not whatever some random layman with no knowledge of theology may intuit from the text, and the Orthodox interpretation of the Bible has never contradicted itself. Regardless, you would get a better picture of Christianity speaking to an abbot in a monastery.

>>133203380
You can burn with it.

>>133203565
>a gaytheist is telling me I'm not a true Christian
HAHAHAHAHA

>>133203669
Thomas Jefferson thought the same as you and yet he was a Christian. Jefferson recognised the extreme value in the teachings of Christ.

>>133191558
Nope.

>>133203711
I've read the bible more thoroughly than you, as I intended to serve god and give my life to him, ultimately the bible yielded falsehood.

>>133203714
I understand you perfectly, you like it easy.

>>133203766
Where did I say I was atheist?

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>>133203705
>'that which is true or in accordance with fact or reality.'
But what exactly is 'reality'. Scientists and philosophers are saying we live in a multi-dimensional multi-verse reality. That our entire 'reality' may in fact be a simulation.

>What do you think truth is?
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. (John 14:6)

>>133203560
What the fuck? You found a moral atheist female? Such a thing is impossible and if you aren't lying (doubt it for you are atheist and nothing is stopping you from lying on the internet), God is furthermore proven real, because that has never ocurred before on this planet.

>>133203669
>God is real but of course not the God of the Bible
Hahahahaha

>>133202601
I as a leaf agree. Fags need to burn in the eternal oven as quickly as possible, along with the Jews, atheists and muslims

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>>133203788
>I've read the bible more thoroughly than you, as I intended to serve god and give my life to him, ultimately the bible yielded falsehood.
So did Satan, in fact he's the best Bible scholar in this fallen world. This is why you need to read the Bible in the Spirit, and not in the flesh with the devil by your side. Try again.

>>133203825
okay a non-Christian is saying it

>>133203832
Reality is what we can observe through the senses.

I believe in Christ and the resurrection literally.

>>133203839
And we can test it so with the bible.

>>133203001

> what do you consider to be the direct word of the Creator, and why?

The creed as laid down by Jesus the Son of God and his Apostles, and transferred down with elaboration and modification by divinely-guided bishops of the Orthodox churches. I am convinced by the philosophy of the Church Fathers and their descendants. Furthermore, I experience a feeling of divinity with Orthodoxy that is distinct from and superior to any other feelings of wonder I have felt in other contexts.

> You should check out the writings of Adi Shankara if you're curious, especially his commentary on the Upanishads and Vivekachudamani

I only have a passing familiarity with these texts, I'll look into it.

Btw, true to my words, the hyenas want to discuss the bible to reinterpret it at their leisure, that's how a kike lies.

>>133191558
This is dumb. Christianity should be rejected because it's childish wish-thinking that is demonstrably false. Not because of some irrelevant argument based on race. You are also implying that a black person can't also be red-pilled. This is of course regressive identity politics logic.

>>133203835
>A moral atheist female.
Not that hard to find, just depends on your preference and whether or not they are interested in long term relationships
>Some I find illogical happens, therefore God is real.
Isn't that just magical thinking?

>>133203825
What are you then an aboriginal pagan monkey?
You do know titan isn't holding up the earth right, we would've found him when we circumnavigated it, and what makes you're Gods more valid.
You believe in Zeus, Thor, Odin fuck them, fuck any god you believe in because he isn't the true God, and nothing shall happen to me for insulting you're Gods of lies.

>>133203991
>Those bastards want to use all of the pages, not just one. They're trying to use the whole Bible to trick you, so don't believe them. Tricking people is the only reason to use the whole Bible.
You really are a caricature at this point.

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>>133192479
>Because he was a liar, if he even existed at all.
And yet, almost every Christian was willing to die for their Lord.
>History is full of men who lied for fame and notoriety.
The norm doesn't prove the exception.
>The two things are ideologically opposed to each other
No they aren't. What's your proof/argument?
>Every Christian on here would choose black Christians over white atheists, and thus must be shunned.
WTF are you even talking about?

>>133204027
99% Of people remain childish either way.

>>133204088
I'm an ex-christian whith currently no religious afiliation but a belief in God without religion after a quest trying to match religions with my religious experiences.

>>133204088
They're not gods. They're mythology. They were never meant to be real in the same way Christ was meant to be real.

>>133204136
You're supposed to be loving me and turning the other cheek. Not making shit up on the spot to defame me.

>>133204027
>wish-thinking
In the world there will be trouble
>But fear not, I have conquered the world.
Where is the wishful thinking? There's harsh fucking reality, and then there's the deeper reality that we experience every day, but that cucks like you won't acknowledge

>>133204228
>You're supposed to be loving me and turning the other cheek.
Justice first, then mercy.

>>133204027

Sorry to tell you, but most committed atheists are plebbit-tier manbabies, anon.

>>133204262
You're not doing any justice by putting words in my mouth I did not say.

>>133204183
You believe in a God which gives no instructions, messages or teachings and has no wishes for the people he created.
You are equal to atheists, i'd like to see what a decentralised barbaric mess you're religion would make if many people believed in it.

>>133204170
This is irrelevant. To believe in true things, and to disbelieve false things leads to greater good. To believe false things and to disbelieve true things leads to greater evil.

>>133204262
I think mercy first then justice. Like how jesus stopped that woman being stoned but then BTFO'd her.

>>133204331
I believe in a God that corresponds most to the notion of God I have thanks to my spiritual experiences when I was called by God, if God hasn't revealed himself to mankind, it is natural to expect so.

>>133204214
Why were they worshipped as such then, with many statues in their honor and daily gifts of gold?

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>>133204228
Psalm 139
20 For they speak against thee wickedly, and thine enemies take thy name in vain.

21 Do not I hate them, O Lord, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?

22 I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.

>>133204405
He has through the bible, and you wouldn't be aware of his presence if it wasn't for the bible.

>>133204088
>and nothing shall happen to me for insulting you're Gods of lies
Nothing happens to me when I shit on YHVH.

>>133204504
The bible is a bunch of falsehoods.