How do you explain this /pol/? Britain is no different from

>>133148715

Britain spread civilization

Islam seeks to tear it apart.

>>133148715
Anglo conquest is bad, as well as Turkish, but why do i have a feeling i have to choose one of them? I prefer neither.

>>133148938
Couldn't have said it better myself. Thanks fag.

>>133148938
>>133149036
Except medicine, mathematics, philosophy, chemistry, physics, economics, biology, astronomy, architecture, and coffee. And algebra (sorry)

and lemons.

>>133148715
Tommy is an autistic manlet. Non-muslims commit more crimes than Muslims yet he always targets Muslims and what they do wrong

>>133149138
>what is per capita

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>>133149138
>muslims dindu nuffin

Kill yourself achmed

>>133148715
Boo hoo we came and gave people civilization, medicine, civil rights and stopped people from acting like monkeys at least for a while.

>>133149138
Tommy is controlled opposition

>>133149109
Ancient Greeks, Mesopotamians and Ancient Egyptians all invented those.

>>133148715
>past actions make current actions ok

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>>133149109
This comes up pretty often to put Islam in a better light, but it's bullshit. The great Arab inventions in all fields all came before Islam had been codexified by various warlords and abused to suit their needs.
The forms of Islam that exist today are no older than 800 years, and 800 years ago an Arab made his last invention. Coincidence?

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>>133148715
>et tu quoque fallacy

>>133148715
The British Empire was built via trade. Looting hurts trade.
The British Empire was built via traditional values encouraged by monarchy.
Rape hurts traditional values.
All these points apply to one time in history: the 1910-20s, when the empire was at its strongest but the monarchy was depowered by Parliament.
If this fuck thinks non-monarchal Britain is real Britain, he's dumber than I thought.

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>>133149109
The only thing you brits spread is lyme and syphilis.

>>133148715
We don't worship Cecil Rhodes as the one true prophet.

Also
>Rape
no
>Genocide
nah not really we aren't Germans
>Looting
maybe a bit

yeh.... all those terrorising railways, technology and industry that we gave to vast numbers of tribes people with only the ability to pray to statues and eat their own shit.

what a terrorising experience

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>>133150183
It's more of a false equivalence. A few decades of setting up trade posts overseas does not equal over a millennium of constant wars of conquest.

>>133148715

>Genocide, Rape Looting
>Africa still has a fuck ton of resources
>Former Colonies are minority white

Yeah, sure. I wish.

>>133148715
One is religion, the other is an empire.

This comparison doesn't make Islam look better, it makes it look worse. It reveals that this religion has always been, essentially, a political project, and that it is impossible to separate it from politics.

It's yet another reason why Islam is incompatible with Western civilization.

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>>133148715

What did colonialism ever do for us?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc7HmhrgTuQ&t=1s

>>133148715
let me tell you why you deserve to die based on the history class i was too cool to pay attention to

>>133150403
>>Genocide
>nah not really we aren't Germans
Tell that to India, and the native americans

>>133148715
>How do you explain this /pol/? Britain is no different from Islamic terrorism.
Britain retreated from its colonies. Time for Islam to reciprocate.

>>133148715

I'm going to rape your mother, because you raped my mother. I'm going to kill your father, because you killed mine.

I'm sorry, but does that make rape and murder fine?

The British Empire is dead. It has deteriorated under the current monarch, and from what I can tell this deterioration has been welcomed from within the empire and outside of it.

Expansionist Islam, on the other hand, HAS NOT been welcomed by the world, but by it's adherents. We have seen the damage of expansionist religion before with Christianity, SO WHY REPEAT that error?

On the other hand, look at Egypt. Anyone can look at that shithole, and DIRECTLY trace when it became a shithole to when the monarch started go lose control of it to militant Islam.

Britain is not robbing, raping, terrorizing or looting other nations. Followers of Islam ARE.

British education doesn't cover the terrible crimes committed by the British empire, hmm I wonder why.

Its like the old white men in government don't want children growing up realising what old white men did to people of colour in the form of genocide, theft, colonialism, racism, imperialism, oppression and slavery

>>133148715

"Islam was spread by the sword!"
>"Yeah but what about colonialism"?
"Aren't you AGAINST colonialism?"
>...
>...
>"Racist"
"Islam isn't a race".
>"Misogynist."

>Hurr durr one wrong makes another one justified
>comparing a country's conquests to a religious cult's conquest
>British empire gave birth to successful countries while the pedo cult gave birth to third world shitholes and war torn hell fires.

>>133150151
>The forms of Islam that exist today are no older than 800 years, and 800 years ago an Arab made his last invention.

How so? Islam has stayed the same since inception.

>>133148715
Islam
>is
British empire
>was

>>133148715
What the British empire was spreading was a step up.

This CJ guy sounds legit. I want to be genocided, raped, and looted now

>>133153082
Okay then , goat fucker, leave Britain. Oh what's that? You can't? Because you lived in a terrorist state? Fucking disgusting welfare leech

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>>133150141
2/10, made me respond. I mean hate them all you want, but at least make the attempt to be taken seriously.

>>133153384
>>133153177
these.
>>133148715
Also more relativism doesn't do anything for an argument.

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>>133148715
>The British Empire was bad therefore Islam cannot be criticised.
He speaks from pure logic, can't deny it.
And what is up with twitter giving all these fucking whos checkmarks? 90% of the people I see screencapped with them nowadays don't even have a stub wiki article.

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>>133148715
>>133148938

>>133153532
>133153532

I'm here from 2 generations ago, cow worshipper

take that dot off your forehead you bhindu subhuman

>>133148715
Touché

>>133149109
Arabic culture != Islamic culture

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>>slide thread to cover up Seth rich news

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/07/bombshell-new-report-shows-guccifer-2-0-dnc-files-copied-locally-not-hacked/

>>133148715
It's true though. In fact, brits have done infinitely worse things than any Islamic terrorist organization.
Not in defense of Islam, simple fact.

>>133153754
that's not the argument.
>>133154165
same thing

>>133154196
>implying anyone would care about muh Seth rich even if it was first in catalog

>>133148715
And yet the government now prevents us from fighting back. We could do the reconquista 1000x over if our governments weren't so cucked.

>>133154409
No you wouldn't lol. Majority of people would stop you, whether it is right or wrong the fact is most people would not support it.
Also what the fuck is an American doing talking about "reconquista"?
You don't have rightful clay to begin with

>>133149109

Lol, all of those are pre-islam inventions.

Stop telling porkie-pies paki.

>>133148715
> brown savages with unwashed cunts throwing themselves at white men is rape

>>133148715
Thats a load of bollocks and you know it. We did it with Maxim Guns instead.

>>133154585
>shinny beads

>>133148715
>FEEL GUILTY, NOW DO WHAT I WANT! >REEEEEEE

Fuck off with your guilt trips. Subhumans will always be subhumans. At least Brits tried to civilize them. Arabs only bring everyone around them down.

>>133154722
>gibberish
Nice argume- oh, wait......

>>133153306
this.
and even if it hadn't, the "same since the begining" is the same line every fucking religion uses.

>>133154680
Hahahaha this is probably true..

>>133154090
>Subhuman goat fucker spits in the very dish he is offered the meal in.
Didn't expect any better of you dumb sand Nigger, inshahalballa, or whatever the fuck you goat fucking niggers say.

>>133154791
But even ignoring guilt, which I feel none of because I'm not a fucking disgusting Brit, it is empirical fact that Britain has commited more atrocities than islam

>>133149109

The only one you got half-way right was the Algebra. And even that wasn't all due to the Arabs during the so-called "Golden Age of Islam".

With regards to OP, all empires have done all of the things you find wrong with islam..

They just probably used different terms to describe them.

And different rhetoric to justify them.

...there is political islam..

It being a part of islam as a whole, although..

In trying to implement it a lot of lessons are to be learned about how the world really works.

..and god.


Probably.

>>133154090
You know only married female so wear the dot right?

>>133148715
>How do you explain this /pol/? Britain is no different from Islamic terrorism.
So? You think the people getting invaded by britain sat there and took it up the ass? Do you think they SHOULD have?

>>133149109
It's the same argument as "Columbus didn't discover America! It was the based Vikings!". You see, the thing is, it's not enough to discover/invent something, if you don't do anything with it and just let it sit there than its the same if you didn't do anything at all.

>>133149109
Ignoring the fact that it's mostly bullshit, what the fuck have they contributed in the last few centuries?

>>133155162

..you think the isralites built the pyramids?

>>133154664
Learn history.

Nobody has even refuted the argument. Typical kuffars...

>>133150151
also...the fact that you had the choice to convert or die and then they said everything they contributed is because of islam but that would be like as if we say werner von brauns inventions are christian inventions and so on but we give the credit to the individual instead of his religion.
if we would compete every "christian" invention with islam in the way they do they would look even worse..
And also what you said is true

>>133148715
The British Empire didn't say "we're gonna invade as far as we can and slaughter anyone who stands in our path!", same can't be said about Islam.

>>133148715
The British never genocided anyone
They just fucked whites over and have brown people technology

>>133154994
>empirical fact
>offers no empirical fact

Wow, thanks Icy Peru.

>>133148715
British Empire is not a religion

>>133149109
Innovation =/= Invention. You can come up with all these great things but if you do nothing with them, you get btfo. The British brought railroads, steam power, modern medicine, etc. Arabs, niggers, and indians can "invent" whatever they want, it was the west that innovated with them

>>133148715
So two wrongs make a right, got it. By that logic you're saying that Britain should continue their previous behaviour and kill Muslims in the U.K. Indiscriminately. Makes sense now.

>>133155581

They can't, because they know it's true and deep down they're proud of the violence the British and other colonizing white empires carried out. Proof of that can be found in any one of the threads on this board. It's just that now that their empires are weak and being torn apart from within they want to make anime eyes and whine "YOU'RE SO MEEEEEEAN TO WHITE PEOPLE! DON'T WE DESERVE TO EXIST TOOOOOOOO?", meanwhile they snicker online about genociding nonwhites and other minority groups.

Cowards always act like this when the tables are turned.

>>133148715
so that makes it ok for islam, right? Brits should feel guilty- but muslims should not

>>133155889
So?

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>>133148715
Black and White are both colors, don't make them the same. Go LARP somewhere else.

>>133149109
Have a go at this MOSLEM Britbong HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA kys

>>133156100
>your flag
>your post

The fuck?

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>>133154862
Your argument is shit. The Native Americans conquered other tribes all the time. America built a civilization, indians built jack shit. We claimed this continent for white man and you half breed mestizo mystery meat mutants will never tell us otherwise

>>133149109
>Except medicine, mathematics, philosophy, chemistry, physics, economics, biology, astronomy, architecture, and coffee. And algebra (sorry)
Eh? All of which were indeed spread by Britain (primarily) as well as the other European powers. All of which were primarily developed in early stages by European peoples.

Islam created nothing - it conquered already advanced peoples and then either stagnated those regions (before turning them to shit) or immediately turned them to shit.

Islam is responsible for the Dark Age due to it's conquest of the most advanced regions of Christendom.

>>133149109
t. Zainab al-Tariq

>>133148938
FPBP

>>133152616
AS IF THE DUTCH CAN TALK!
>What is the Congo rubber trade
when it came to native americans Britain had strict rules on living and tolerating them, and made sure white colonisers didn't expand from New England, (one of the reasons for the american revolution was to expand before the French did.)

>>133156836
owned

>>133157185
if you're going to say something back it up.

>>133157595
Just like the Empire owned your previous country, Abdul.

>>133148715
>British Empire of Peace
Fucking bigots.

>>133150403
>no genocide
Motherfucker have you heard of turkey

>>133157797
i'm british and that's not an argument

>>133149109
get the fuck out my country Sadiq

>>133158419
>muslim apologist
>im british

'no'

>>133158419
"British" yet you wont stand for the countries common values.

>>133158685
not an argument, unseasoned chicken
>>133158835
no such thing as british values

>>133148938
The whole world should be thankful to Britain for spreading civilization. I guess CJ Werleman is against civilization.

>>133154165
>reddit

>>133148715
>islam
>spread by sword and genocide and rape

whoever believes this is a retard having mental health issues, you cannot have cognitive dissonance and be mentally sane

>>133148715
>your ancestors did bad things.
>so bad things should happen to you.

>>133159100
>british
>civilization

oh yeah, we can see how it turned out in the middle east and india where people get killed for using toilets

all the brits did is open the gates of the third world to shitskin

>>133158944
Google "Western Civilisation"

>>133159319
>>133159100
open the gates of the west to the horst of third world shitskin*

>>133149109

https://wikiislam.net/wiki/How_Islamic_Inventors_Did_Not_Change_The_World

>>133148715
Haha - who in their right mind thinks this is an argument. he's trying to defend islam...by acknowleding that it's violent?

>>133148715
>have you not heard of the British Empire

But you hate the British Empire for the exact same reasons you are now spinning apologetics on behalf of Muslims for. So are you saying raping, murdering and pillaging is an innate human trait so no harm, no foul it's a natural human trait that should be legalized? Or are you saying Britain deserves to be raped and plundered by foreigners as atonement for the past?

Cuz I'm pretty sure normies would have your head on a pike for espousing either of these retarded positions

>>133148715
Yeah but they aren't STILL doing it

>>133148715
>MUH PAST ATROCITIES
Stick with the times, asshole. Britain changed and cleaned their act. The mudshits never did.
As cucks like these virtue signal this shit, thousands of innocents are being butchered in the name of Islam.

But of course, you don't give a shit for those, do you?

>>133158944
>not an argument, unseasoned chicken

not an argument, curry stench

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>>133148715
>11 posts by this ID

>>133159905
>But of course, you don't give a shit for those, do you?

No I'm more concerned my evil neighbors would expel migrants if they found out about this

>two wrongs make a right

>>133160284
and they make it so right you should feel sorry for the non-changed criminal

>>133159319
It's not Britain's fault that they insist on being neanderthals

>>133152919
>under the current monarch
Speaking of Elizabeth, when is that bitch going to die? Is she a fucking lich, destined to rule over Britain until the end of time?

>>133160412
its britains fault for even making contact with them giving them the chance to be shipped over

>>133153306
>Islam has stayed the same since inception.

LOL

>>133160577
yeah, pretty much, but it's also weak if you go hunting and then let animals follow you back to your home

>>133148715
>The British Empire lasted thousands of years and slayed literally anyone that didn't immediately submit
Uh??
>>133148938
>When a literal fag has more sense than a bong
fpbp honestly I've always trusted gay people more than Muslims. Not with my kids but I'd trust you with a gun before a sand nigger.

>>133157649
Shut the fuck up you drooling spastic

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>>133149109
As if being the first to do make progress in these fields is the only thing that matters.

>>133148715
That thing that put an end to slavery wherever it controlled even going as far as sending troops in to stop the Africans enslaving each other?

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>they still don't realize race is the issue, not islam
wake up

The British Empire wasnt a religion. How many suicide bombings or mass stabbings have been carried out by Imperial extremists?

Nobody calls Britain a "religion of peace," and no one is currently raping women, taking slaves, murdering "infidels" and so forth because of it.

>>133161050

Also this. Even when Arabs were pagan and then Christian before Muhammad they would start shit.

>>133148715
I interpreted this as islam was spread by the british empire. the fact that it's actually fucking true today is so sad

>>133149109
Mate you are thick as fuck.

>>133148715
is this an admission that islam is bad?

Except that I am British, not Muslim, so I want our side to win? This isn't exactly rocket surgery is it?

>>133156100
weak bait

>>133161886
Im not sure that you are British. Traitors will hang first.

>>133159216
IT kind of was actually. Islams history full of it.

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>>133149109
they invented none of these, they approiated some from the Greeks and the zoroastrian Persians. The golden age of science in Islam is a myth, as it is the fruits of the cultures in counquered. Islam ended scientific thought in the middle-east

Phsyics by the way did not become a field until the 19th century.

>>133149138
you should expect the total number to be less given that they are a minority, but it's not true for all types of crime

>>133156836
> mass murder
> slaves
> Not part and parcel

>>133162180
I am British. Point I'm making is, if the left says, "w-well white nationalists are bad too!" I will still side with them because they don't want to cut my head off.

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>>133148715
I wish the awful, evil and tyrannosaurus British empire would have invaded my country, I'm sure it'd be way better than it is today.

Oh well, at least we're not as bad as French colonies.

>>133160859

Not like they'd shoot the gun.
They're more likely to suck it off, or stick it up their bums.

British empire was an empire of peace we should use this against the idiots who say islam is a religion of peace.

>>133157523
>What is the Congo rubber trade

>employ niggers to enforce rubber tree farming to finance development of the Congos
>they do it nigger style
>you have now genocided more niggers than have ever lived in the Congos

>>133148938
>Britain spread civilization
Stop hiding your flag you toothless inbred.

>>133148715
he is comparing something from the present to something from the past that he considers evil, as if he has a great point.. seems like a lose lose point he made, other than he got to sip tea and feel smarmy for a few moments

>>133148715
refugees go to British
refugees flee the Islamic

>>133154994
>Ignoring your own history
wewlad
>Please let me wallow in my own shit for all eternity
So be it """"noble"""" savage

>>133162467
Why is it fair every non-white country gets to preserve their culture but we cant? Its a dishonor to ournancestors who fpught to preserve it. Its our moral responsibility yet we keep breeding retards like you who want to let people take it away from us.

>>133148715
So you're comparing this religion to a military empire. Somewhat accurate, but Islam killed all the non-believers, Britain made them colonies.

He's been trained since he was a baby to defend shitskins and attack white people. Every character in every story points to it. Every lesson in school.

>>133148715
the UK lead the global effort to end slavery and left every nation it conquered better than when it was found.

>>133148715
the jewish bankers forced british empire to spread. Muslims do it on their own

>>133149109
"Islamic" Golden age's advancement were really stolen from the Persians.

Muslims haven't done any good to the world, they have just slaughtered everyone who dared to cross paths with them, be it Indians, Persians, Crusaders, Egyptians, Turks and Berbers.

Lemons are delicious though.

>>133148938
the faggot is right for once

>>133148715

So one advanced the entire world and the other seeks to destroy anyone who wont fall to their knees and praise a child molester.

Not a hard concept to understand.

>>133162932
What the fuck are you talking about I'm on your side you fucking idiot

>>133148715
Would you rather live in Arabia or England. Seriously anyone who shits on the west and supports retarded ideologies like Islam or communism ask them if they would rather live in Saudi Arabia, a country which outlawed slavery in 1962, or if they are a commie if they'd prefer to live in North Korea a place where if you say one thing bad about the Kim's you and your kids and their kids are put into a gulag.

>>133148715
If anyone knows history they would know that the British "Empire" started out as a series of businesses, company charters, etc. It wasn't really until the late 18th and 19th centuries that its holdings began to become consolidated under the Grand British Empire, which ultimately is what insured its downfall