Are there any Protestant churches in America with actual church service and not some shit like pic related? Just curious.
>>133102442
Or crap like this
>>133102442
No, except the liturgical protestant churches.
This is why all protestant churches have become circular in structure, architecture, and design. It is focused around what they call the "altar" which is just a stage. That way it maximizes hearing the man preach.
It is oriented toward man rather than oriented toward God. Interesting how things reversed when their ancestors left the Church.
You're looking for Anglicanism, go to an Episcopal or High Anglican church.
Liturgy and theology is all the best parts of Catholicism without the satanic papacy and kiddy diddling.
>>133102442
All the protestant churches here have gay pride flags and black lives matter banners up year-round
>>133103864
There's more kiddy diddling in Protestantism than in Catholic settings, kiddo.
...and this papacy will pass.
>>133103864
>Since 1957, there have been 13,000 cases of child abuse by a Catholic priest in their church.
>That's 240 cases a year.
>In the Protestant churches since 1957, there is an average of 260 cases.
>That's 14,000 cases of child abuse by Protestant powers that be -- over 1,000 more.
>And that doesn't count every denomination and the fact Protestants weren't forced to turn those numbers over like the Catholics were, the number is no doubt higher.
>From available research we now know that in the last 50 years somewhere between 1.5% and 5% of the Catholic clergy has been involved in sexual abuse cases. The Christian Science Monitor reported on the results of a national survey by Christian Ministry Resources in 2002 and concluded: "Despite headlines focusing on the priest pedophile problem in the Roman Catholic Church, most American churches being hit with child sexual-abuse allegations are Protestant". Sexual abuses within the Jewish communities approximate that found among the Protestant clergy.
>http://archive.is/FitQ
>Billy Graham's grandson confirms a greater problem
>http://archive.is/rY861
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>>133104055
The three major insurance companies that insure for child abuse report that Protestant abuse is just as bad as Catholic, and that secular abuse is 8 times worse than Catholic and Protestant combined.
>Church Mutual Insurance Co., GuideOne Insurance Co. and Brotherhood Mutual Insurance Co
Not only this, only an estimated 25% of Protestant churches have or can afford this insurance. Because of their autonomous, individual nature, there is no reporting apparatus. Also, 65% of the data is unavailable to the public because those insurance claims are considered proprietary to the individual protestant churches. So we have a crisis much larger within Protestant communities for the sheer fact that around 10% of all of them actually report their numbers, and to those that do, is almost identical to abuse in Catholic setting.
>http://archive.is/Ay5U3
>http://stopbaptistpredators.org/article07/abuse_data_in_protestant_churches.html
Because of the nature of Protestantism, there is no hierarchical reporting apparatus like in the Catholic Church, even when some clergy actively covered up abuse.
>http://stopbaptistpredators.org/article07/child_sex_abuse_by_protestant_clergy.html
There is a concerted effort to report as widely as possible abuse that occurs in Catholic settings than in Protestant. ... and people are more than willing to suckle the teet of the narrative rather than do the actual research.
With more abuse occuring in Protestant sects than in Catholic, and secular abuse orders of magnitude worse than Catholic and Protestant combined, isn't it obvious the problem is a social problem of over-sexualization?
>http://www.foxnews.com/story/2007/06/24/sexual-abuse-minors-in-protestant-churches.html
"Protestant" technically only means in the Western Church, but not under the jurisdiction of the Vatican. For example, in England the monarch is coronated in a ritual that mentions "protestant religion." In the United States, because of our English heritage, such things are still possible, and usually such a focus is called High Church, or as the other Anon. said, called Liturgical.
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>>133102442
The first is a megachurch in the south (people do go to them but it is something to pity) and the second is a one off denomination that you find time to time where maybe 2-4 turbo fundie families attend. Every church ive been in has been scripture reading, some hymns and a sermon about not being a dick. Followed by bbq chicken and some backyard football
>>133102442
Yea, megachurces. Whats funny is a lot of them have ATMs and starbucks on site too
>>133103970
It doesn't matter if the pope is Francis or Pius X. The pope is always the anti-christ.
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>>133104088
Gee I really trust those numbers. It's not like the Catholic church spends more time covering up pedophilia than anything else and that the pope has an administration team who spends all day defending child rapists. Great (((data))) you've got there.
>>133104088
>even when some clergy actively covered up abuse.
nothing to see here guys, just a higher rate and literal criminals being harbored and 'transferred' instead of charged and convicted
> isn't it obvious the problem is a social problem of over-sexualization?
the fuck did you mean by this?
>Homosexuality is a sin
>>133104264
>antichrist
>1 John 2:22-23
>rejecting that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God
Popes don't do that, even the heretic Francis admits this much. Sorry. Your criteria doesn't work.
>Insurance reports
The Vatican has its hands in American Insurance companies, too?
>>133104304
Oversexualization of the culture. A general decline in morals across the board. Be it Catholic or Protestant, any human element of the institution is only as virtuous as its people. When the morals of the people are debased, then those entering these institutions will also be debased.
>>133102442
Rarely.