Why is it that "civic nationalist" has become an insult

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>>133026059
>he's so new he hasn't seen people calling each other commie beta retards, commie degenerates, commie faggots and so many more

>>133026059

At least true unapologetic communist are principled in their beliefs and conform to an actual ideological dogma. Civic-Nationalism is just a meme perpetuated by edgy cowards and exploitative financial profiteers who want to set themselves apart from mainstream right wing politics. They are simply cuckservatives masquerading as nationalist and thus refuse to acknowledge that the fundamental basis of Identity is race, thus I have no respect for them.

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>>133027487
>implying come larpers aren't retarded high school kiddies that wanna be a part of the pwowetawiot!
all of them haven't even read the commie manifesto
plus they ignore any sort of fact even if it's beating them over the head
like pic related said

>>133027487
>At least true unapologetic communist are principled in their beliefs and conform to an actual ideological dogma.
You think that radical communists have ANY interest in setting up syndicates where the workers own the means of production and the community takes care of all the needs of the people? Then why is it that whenever antifa/black bloc/radical communists go to an area, all they leave in their wake is broken noses, broken glass, torched cars, and general destruction and depravity?

>Civic-Nationalism is just a meme perpetuated by edgy cowards and exploitative financial profiteers who want to set themselves apart from mainstream right wing politics. They are simply cuckservatives masquerading as nationalist and thus refuse to acknowledge that the fundamental basis of Identity is race, thus I have no respect for them.
The sentiment you expressed is a D&C tactic that's not even close to the truth. Trump is a civic nationalist. We need people like this or else we will never get a wall, limitations on immigration or Muslim bans. How is limiting immigration the same as cuckservativism? It's not. All you're proving to me is that you either don't understand what cuckservatism is, or you are trying to deceive people by lying about the differences.

they're both insults, and rightfully so

>>133028178
>You fucking Trump supporter!!!
Yeah, no. This should not be an insult on /pol/.

>They're both insults
Then why don't you use Communist more on /pol/? Because you're a dumb, brainwashed fuck is why.

civnats are fallout progressive dumbasses who still believe in homosexuality and diversity etc. joining a new movement they believe is dominant to stay on top in social infighting. dragging down everything with their indoctrinated ideas they can't critically think about
it's a lot like when liberals move out of cities they can no longer afford to live in, only to push the policies in the new area that forced them away in the place

>>133028503
You're either retarded or a liberal plant trying to divide and conquer. There would be no New Right without civic nationalists like Trump. You can't have these "photoshop Richard Spencer to make his head look like a penis" threads while simultaneously demeaning civic nationalists every fucking chance you get too. Having it both ways means you're just anti-right.

>>133026518
I just don't see it.

>>133028849
>>>/reddit/
there is no dividing when it's already divided
on one side you have white ethnostatists that want to stay a majority in their own country
on the other side you have prodiversity prohomosexuality pro moderate islam jackasses that praised trump attacking Syria and think as long as everyone has their lily white mental state of nationalism the world they live in would revert to the 50s
these aren't the same group of people even though one files themselves under the same name

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>>133030837
>there is no dividing going on what are you talking about goy
I wonder who could be behind this post?

>>133027487
I can work with a civic nationalist.

Realistically, what else can America do? CNATs will argue for the same societal rules, but they'll call them American values instead of white values. Who gives a shit? I don't care what you believe. Societal building blocks, that yes are rooted in main stream "white" history, are what is being flushed down the toilet. Some whites are idiots and faggots too- see left wing America.
Its all about perpective larper.

>>133026059
>"communist" is still just a descriptor for an ideology?
it's not
it's the equivalent of calling someone a delusional ideologue hellbent on destroying european culture

>larpers larping the larpeding

Who ever said civic nationalist was an insult? Sheesh any intelligent stormfag wouldnt even target a civic nationalist. Every assult or attack on the idea of civic nationalism has been a shill/bait or an American Antifa. For instance this is a civic nationalist with really low self esteem, or its a commie trying to normalize communism.

>>133031007
>arguments: zero
good job cryptokike

civic nationalist is used to describe the alt lite, and other cuckservatives, that won't mention race/ethnicity/religion yet are still glorified e celeb faggots

all it means is they aren't /pol/, they aren't alt right, it's the diet coke to the real coke, communists are much worse but civic nationalists are useless because race determines all, and you will get repeating patterns without an ethnostate

>>133031312
Then why don't people on /pol/ use it that way?

>>133031840
Fuck off. No one used "civic nationalist" as an insult here prior to about 2-3 weeks ago. /pol/ isn't divided. You and your kind are trying to divide us artificially. There is nothing inherent to civic nationalism that says you can't want racial demographics to stay the same. It's what people widely believed prior to the 1970s. There's also nothing inherent to civic nationalism that takes a stance on homosexuality, diversity or foreign intervention. You are falsely conflating civic nationalism with cuckservatism and modern stances of the Republican Party. You're being incredibly dishonest, and don't deserve a reply, but I'll give you a (You) just because you apparently don't know what sage does (which would be expected of an invader anyway).

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>>133026059
because people use the term "commie" for that

also it should be noted that civic nationalism is a lefty ideology, like communism, but communism actually has some nationalistic tendencies in its track record whereas civ nats are multiculturalists, but multiculturalism is just as much a failure as communism is

>>133031063
>implying you can have white values and white society without white people

>>133032358
>civnat isn't cuckservatism
it might as well be
look at the people they follow and the company they keep to understand what I mean
publicly it's majorly people that are aligned with typical indoctrination spew like gay marriage and diversity
fallout democrats and newly minted voting block of youth that go along with the popular political movement of their time
once again the risen movement to go against the system was taken over from the inside by people that want to play politics with the same old toys of gay marriage and diversity

>>133034214
>it might as well be
No. You can't say that when I can list dozens of fundamental differences as to why it is'nt. Also, what the fuck is with the formatting of your posts? I'm seeing it all over the board. It's like you want to redditspace, but you're too self-conscious to leave a space in between each lines. Fuck off from /pol/ forever, invader.

>>133034507
I want the list faget

>>133035052
You've already proved yourself to be incapable of reason. Why waste any time on a person like you.

why do civic nationalist like sucking nigger dick so much?

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>>133026059
Because civic nationalism is direct insult to nationalism itself.
It's cuckoldry on higher levels.

>>133036239
upboated

:)

im a civi nationalist heres a pic of my wife getting fucked by a nigger with a maga hat

Under Communism nations still remain ethnicly the same

Under Civic Nationalism its just hollow and the host nation gets replaced.

Civic nationalism is for the goodest of goys.

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>>133026059
>Why is it that "civic nationalist"
Is nothing but a wedge phrase that you nigger shills use to try to divide and conquer and sow dissension with your retarded shareblue scripts. Die in a fire.

>>133036385
woah what a based black guy

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>>133036385
PRAISE KEK, fellow pede. :)
My Le Based black man is also wearing MAGA hat.
Can't wait when i will prepare him for my based wife.

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>>133027487
>edgy cowards and exploitative financial profiteers

Character assassination is when you try to make a person irrelevant because you destroyed the perception of their personality. You try to make it so nobody likes them anymore, so nobody listens to them anymore. You do it when you see that person as a threat.

You can spot it when there's clear spam about a certain person, and asking who benefits from that spam. e.g. /pol/ doesn't benefit from abandoning Lauren Southern. She is starting thousands of normies down the redpill path.

Shareblue/antifa does benefit. This is a shareblue character assassination attempt, using stuff they think will get /pol/ to hate her. Lying about her being jewish is one way. Calling her a slut/racemixer is another. Calling her a coward or weakling is another. etc. etc.

It's to shareblue's benefit if every alt-light and alt-right personality gets entirely discredited so /pol/ no longer has any big voices on their side, and normies stop getting redpilled, which is why they do it.

Die in a fire.

>>133036666
>>133037059
FUCKING SHILL, GET OUT.

>>133035959
>youre incapable of reason
means a lot coming from a civnat

>>133026059
Because it's a deadend ideology. Ethnicity and race matters alot, because each come with their own set of beliefs and values. Even Whites from different ethnicities believe in different things and can't always live alongside each other peacefully.

>>133035959

Lmao no list then

>>133028503
This right here.
>>133028849
>posts images of pewdiepie and expects to be taken seriously

>>133037974
Jeb Bush is a cuckservative. Cuckservatives want open border immigration from the third world, more globalist trade agreements, more Muslim immigrants, more foreign interventionism, more activistist supreme court justices, he's against policies that favor native born Americans in the workplace, against the wall, doesn't care about the second amendment enough to defend against attacks by liberals in the legislature and courts and he doesn't attack leftists in the media. None of these align with civic nationalism, as defined by Trump.

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>>133026059
Itt. Some faggot tries to tell me what words to use. Eat a dragon dildo you COMMUNIST JEW FAG NIGGER.

>>133039365
I'm not trying to police your language. I'm trying to get you to see what is happening on /pol/.

>>133026059
That is because average /pol/ak still consider a civ nat a person, but we know that a commie is no better than a kike or a roach

How do you guys feel about a son of legal immigrants that fully embraces the American way of life and rejcts spic culture?

>>133026059
One thing is tolerate other races,
but pretending you are color blind and believing all the multiculti diversity is our strengh propaganda just make you an idiot

>>133040111
>rejcts
Great, if you can learn to speak English fluently and keep your numbers below about 3% of the national population.

>>133040166
You are conflating civic nationalism with cuckservatism.

>>133040331
I think it is you who have no clue what you are talking about
>>Civic nationalism, also known as progressive nationalism, is a kind of nationalism and identified by political philosophers who believe in a non-xenophobic form of nationalism compatible with progressive values of freedom, tolerance, equality and individual rights

>>133040331
Civic nationalism has the notion that if you replace all the white people of the US by niggers or merxicans or a combination of both, it will be the same US

Civic nationalism = SJW/leftist + nationalism (murica is great!)

>>133040603
>using Google's SJW dictionary
According to them, we're all fascists. Trump is the archetypal civic nationalist of our time.

>>133040978
>Civic nationalism has the notion that if you replace all the white people of the US by niggers or merxicans or a combination of both, it will be the same US
That's cultural Marxism, so now you're being even more disingenuous than before.

>Civic nationalism = SJW/leftist + nationalism (murica is great!)
This is retarded. No Democrat wants to build a wall.

Put your flag back on, Leaf.

>>133026059
civ nat = multiculti

>>133041681
Wrong.

>>133040982
>>133041536
Just so stupid teens understand
Civic = follow and tollerate civic customs, be a good goy, like anon says >>133041681
Nationalism = America first

By saying you are wrong boohoo and adding no content, no proof no argument... what are you 14y/o?
This is an adult board

>>133026059

civic nationalist, national socialist, communist, globalist, and neocons are all faggots.

>>133042276
>Civic = follow and tollerate civic customs, be a good goy, like anon says >>133041681


civic
[siv-ik]

Examples
Word Origin

See more synonyms on Thesaurus.com
adjective
1.
of or relating to a city; municipal:
civic problems.
2.
of or relating to citizenship; civil:
civic duties.
3.
of citizens:
civic pride.

>>133028077
He's said he totally wants economic migrants. Which is the real problem.

>>133042566
Citation needed.

>>133032358
CIVIC NATIONALISM IS ANTI-RACE. THERE IS NO ALLIANCE TO BE MADE WITH RACE TRAITORS.

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>>133026059
because of paid shills trying to divide and conquer.

>>133042708
Put your flag back on, Leaf.

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>>133041934
It literally is.
It's being "nation"alistic towards a multi racial state.
In a civic society you can't call nigger a afro-american but only american, same with white, asian and semites etc.

If your sister (((decided))) to marry and fuck with a black guy, it's not race-mixing, because she is mixing with an american same as her.
There is no race idea in civic nationalism, just "muh culture and values"

You are literally propagating wide national cuckoldry on a massive scale.

@133042813
Why do all of the shills hide their country flags?

>>133026059
>what is insider/outsider group dynamics.

Why do libs hate traditional republicans but love muslims? You always hate the closer enemy more than the alien.

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>>133042904
God, you newfaggots ruined entire meaning of "Shill", just like "JIDF" became irrelevant in the past.
Why is it so important to you to see my flag? Is it because you can't use "ebin a fucking leaf" maymay or "kekeke not irrelevant" maymay.

You don't adress my point or argument, but care more about "ebin maymay" and when you have nothing to say you resort to naming everyfag "SHILL" or "SHAREBLUE"
It's unironically not an argument.

It's either dumb burger education or just intense newfaggotry. Im not even gonna try to debate with (you) anymore. Enjoy your (you)

Civic nationalists like to see non-White's pretending to be Americans.

Cuckservative's believe that stabbing themselves in the back is a good way of defending their interests.

>>133042813
>No race idea in civic nationalism, just "muh culture and values".
Mate, that's cultural nationalism. That's where I stand, but even that is taboo in the modern day.

Civic nationalism is a meme because it doesn't even believe in CULTURE as a source of national cohesion. Multi-culturalism is a common concept in civic nationalist circles.

The sole bond for all of society, for all its disparate and opposing groups, in a civic nationalist society?

Citizenship.

Arbitrarily assigned, ludicrously shallow citizenship that has no basis in anything further than what is assigned to it by the government.

That's what makes civic nationalism a meme.

>>133045040
>Civic nationalism is a meme because it doesn't even believe in CULTURE as a source of national cohesion. Multi-culturalism is a common concept in civic nationalist circles.
No, the difference is that civic nationalism doesn't take a stance on culture or race, and instead leaves those up to the people to decide on. Governments don't need to be involved with policing culture.