Going to church for the first time

>>132966962
Prepare for the most boring hour-hour and a half of your life

>>132967026
Well that is kind of a bad foresight. If one wishes to enrich himself can he be bored by the enrichment?

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Here is everything you need to know.
https://pastebin.com/GnzP9MHJ

Executive summary:
* The other type of brothel has tits

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Churches don't cure degeneracy you pleb. They push it underground. It's still there and always will be. It is the human condition

>>132966962
Speak with the priest about your intentions, he'll be kind to help you if he's a decent in he's practic. Also going to church won't help that much.
Spirituality will, but that's a process and a long one.
Do not be scared it won't take up your whole lifetime.
It's like training sometimes you got to work on yourself.
Cheers!

>>132966962
Make sure its an old catholic church

Good on you for giving Christianity a shot. I'm not sure that it will directly help you fix the degeneracy of the world. But it will help you wrangle the degeneracy in yourself; which might help out everyone else in a roundabout way.

>>132966962
>"I don't want to think for myself, so I will just take regurgitated fairytales as being factual instead, and become a willing drone."

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>>132967945
Speak with a priest?
Are you fucking retarded? Can't you read?
* Rev. 2 - Priestcraft = Nicolatians = Definitely not christians = explicitly says that "God hates them" = crafties, cucks, whores, and such total ego-centric collared pussies that "the sword of my mouth" can pretty much kill them. In fact, scratch that, you need to be ass-fucked on the alter before God, so yeah, go see a priest - good one!

>>132966962
Why are those soldiers wearing bras over their uniforms???

>>132967026
Don't listen to this guy. A good sermon can be absolutely mesmerizing. And if you've read and studied the bible, you can member and enjoy all the passages and references.

Please do go to church with an open mind. I promise that it will be an enjoyable experience, and you will meet good people.

>>132966962
Just don't go there.

Christkikenity is a jewish nonsence anyway.

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What? Did I commit a hate speech crime or something? Say, who wants a burger? Extra fries with that, fuck yeah?

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>>132969594
kiketholicism is anti-white

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>>132966962
Congrats!
What denomination? If you are into fashy aesthetics I would recommend Catholic Mass.

Also just follow what you see other people do to fit in at first.

Also i wouldn't recommend taking communion (the body and blood of Christ ritual) this time since you probably aren't 100% good with the Lord Right now

>>132966962
confession, communion and prayer. Keep it up and keep your heart open. You'll be surprised how much degeneracy you'll outgrow.

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>>132972434
The Catholic Church is the most European of all the Churches.

>>132972596
Kiketholicism is anti-white.

And tempLARP flag users actually defend non-white christkikes because "fuck racysm all christians are our brothersss!1111!!"
>>132972434

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>>132972674
christkikenity is jewish by definition

also all your elites including pope defend non-white invasion

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>>132972651
He probably should take communion...

>You shouldn’t eat the Lord’s Supper if you are unwilling to renounce sin and humbly hold fast to Jesus

Since it's his first time OP probably should take communion unless OP has an amazing enlightening experience in church

>>132972744
there's a difference between rabbinical judaism (what you're referring to) and levitical judaism.. the faith Jesus was the messiah of.

If you're going to pretend to know it all, at least learn something first

>>132972807
all kiketholics should take circumsission to become fully jewish (because that's what you love the most - middle-eastern culture)
>>132972833
both of those judaisms are middle-eastern and created by israelites, so both are anti-white by definition

also i assume that you would actually love to take low-IQ immigrants from subsaharan africa, so you are also anti-White

>>132972744
What religion do you defend?

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>>132973048
The European ones.

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>>132972596
Yeah, and the other problem with Communion is that it's just bread and wine, yet every church has somehow fucked that one up royally.
* Both have yeast = integrity check
* Protestants went with Ashura, muslim communion, by ditching the alogo
* Catholics magically turned bread into a fucking cracker, because fuck you, I am God.
* Fatima is God trying to get married in His own fucking church, like organising a piss up in a brewery. That's the 3Rd testament dickheads - you know, a covenant = a marriage = same as the other two = like a Trinity = how the fuck did you niggers balls that one up = Priestcraft = God hates Nicolatians => Praying Sodomites of Isiah 1.

*Alcohol

>>132972932
Yeah.. you don't know the difference and you're making blanket statements while pretending to have a high IQ. You don't/didn't know the difference and you're pretending it doesn't matter, even though you don't know anything about it.

The white race's population grew more than it ever has when it embraced the church. They start thinking like you, brainwashed by ((academia)) and the ((entertainment industry)) and now it's plummeting... and you want to blame the best part of your own culture/tradition.

>>132973088
I see. You mean further segregating and dividing your people?

>>132966962
Good job, you fell for /pol/ memes.

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>>132973202
Christkikenity promotes leftist values, like hatred for the rich (Matthew 19:24), anti-nationalism (Galatians 3:28), anti-family values (Matthew 10), and multi-culturalism (Leviticus 19:34).

There is nothing good about it, it's just ano
ther Middle-Eastern anti-White cult.

>>132973276
European religions can actually unite us, because all our gods and values are the same.

The real dividing religion is chirstkikenity - look at all religous conflicts between Protestants, Catholics and the Orthodox.

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It's the mother fucking Grain Offering! You know, from Malachi, where you ripped that bogus tithing bullshit from? As in, the Hidden Manna of Rev 2, when you stop getting conned by a daddy whore, also forbidden in Matt 25. The Malachi tithing verse is found near this one, on communion:
"I am not pleased with you, says the Lord of Hosts, and nor will I accept a sacrifice from you".

Also, the true Ash Wednesday is described in Ez 9v4-6, and most people die, and rightly so too. Wide road mofos!

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>>132973276
At least they're people and not the subhumans you want to sell us as "brothers", jew lover.

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>>132966962
May the Lord shelter you

>>132966962
It can depend on the type of church you visit.
Some churches have terrible choices in music. Most people in the church will be friendly enough.

Don't make the mistake of thinking, as I know one person who did, that going to church means your life is going to be perfect.

Don't worry about making mistakes. You're new there. You can easily just say "What do I do?"

Chat with some people in the church later.

>>132973581
Suppose you never heard of how a lot of christians despise other people rightfully, and even the Bible teaches that not everyone can be saved.
>>132973547
Sure thing, maybe that's why they killed and hunted long before christianity took over?

>>132973705
>a lot of christians despise other people rightfully
Those "other people" being "white", yes. No one's doubting that quality about you lot.
>and even the Bible teaches that not everyone can be saved.
And yet it not only accepts every nigger but outright breeds them for the very purpose of converting them. 4 billion by 2100 thanks to you cucks.

>>132973705
We did, but only for profit. Christkikes were killing and hunting other christians because of their fanatic cult.

You seems to masturbate to crusades - what about the Wendish, Fourth, Baltic and Cathar ones?

NOT THE ONLY ONE ANON

LET'S PAY RESPECT FOR SUPERIOR THE BEIGN

BEGUM ORDHODOX :DDDDDDD

>>132973827
So we can have (((diversity))) behind our borders. No thanks. Convert or get out.

>>132974525
Nope, you convert or get out.

This land is Aryan, not Jewish.

Your "holy" jewish land is somewhere there -------->

>>132972365

Those are some fine tits.

>>132966962
Sorry dear anon.
Unless you have family or a spouse to go along with my advice to you would be don't unless you are genuine about it. It makes for a much smoother transition if you've got someone close to you to initiate you into their realm. Otherwise, it's futile. I recommend further reading and experiencing what real life has to offer.

>>132966962
Are you fucking retarded? Both protestants and catholics side with mass immigration into europe and almost any form of degeneracy.

The churches are happy to "convert" muslim migrants so they can't be deported from europe.
The pope kissed the feet of african migrants ffs. I can gladly present you a ton of articles of other stuff the oh so """based""" churches are up to.

They are almost as cancerous as hippies or SJWs, but idiots on the right still support their shit.

How the hell do you decide which is the right one to go to?

There are so many arguments for each of them that if I were to study them properly it would take half a century unless I went full NEET.

>>132974525
>So we can have (((diversity))) behind our borders. No thanks. Convert or get out.
I unironically agree with this mindset. If you're a white jew worshipper you're a traitor and need to go - either back to the desert where you belong, or into the oven with your beloved chosen people.

>>132975237
this

>>132974613
It doesn't work that way, Varg.

>>132975237
-and secular people are the worst, because they overwhelmingly vote for liberal policies on a global scale, but let's pay attention to a dying demographic in Europe. European social conservatives aren't typically atheists nor agnostics.

>>132975770
It does.

My holy land is Europe, if you are a heathen (christian, muslim, jew), go back to YOUR holy land, which is Israel.

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>>132975581
When you get out

>>132975874
>calling Europeans jews while praising a kike
are christkikes that retarded?

>>132966962
I was raised a catholic, and I don't think I will ever change, but, I can't really recommend it...
Not with the current pope

>>132975874
>if you reject something jewish you're a jew
Based on that retardation and the shitty english you must be the Dominican nigger.

>>132975868
Varg stop eating shrooms

Christain life is a moral life if you do what all the others adults do. Its like 1940s group meetings. Be good, look sharp, be kind.

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>>132975991
WE

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>>132975995
Stop living in our land, jew.

Wow, so based, saviours of european civilization!!! :')

>A growing number of Muslim refugees in Europe are converting toChristianity, according to churches, which have conducted mass baptisms in some places.

>Complex factors behind the trend include (...) an expectation that conversion may aid asylum applications.

>At Trinity church in the Berlin suburb of Steglitz, the congregation has grown from 150 two years ago to almost 700, swollen by Muslim converts, according to Pastor Gottfried Martens. Earlier this year, churches in Berlin andHamburgreportedly held mass conversions for asylum seekers at municipal swimming pools.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/05/european-churches-growing-flock-muslim-refugees-converting-christianity

>>132976154
Always archive those
https://archive.is/cw6Xr

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>>132966962
Consider that most stuff in society is a lie, both in and outside most churches

Read the bible yourself (king james) and consider it yourself

Oh, and read through proverbs

>>132966962
Dutch churches only has old ppl. Dont be supprised if its only ppl with walkers.

>>132975237
What about the Orthodox Church?

>>132966962

Degenerates have overrun many churches as well, so be careful which one you choose.

>>132966962
Don't let our glazed-over wide-eyed smiles scare you away. That's just our way of making you feel welcome, brother.

>>132975838
But you do realize there are diffrent options than "nihilist atheist" and "christkike"?

>>132967945
I have enjoyed the ceremony. On my walk home I bumped into the pastor leading the service. As I was the only young person there, he recognized me and invited me for coffee at his home.

Degeneracy is everywhere I know that. And problems will not go away magically if I go to church I know this. It is however part of my effort in being a better person each day. Understanding where we come from, what has shaped us, will help me. If I want to better the world, what place better then to start with myself?

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>>132966962
stay away from faggoty Jews, red pill everyone you can, hunt all the Jews down, problem solved

>>132966962

I learn Dutch:
ik ben wit

>>132969594
Yes it is the oldest church in the region. The church I visited is over 1000 years old

>>132975838
Please show me the church of atheism, that uses the money of its followers to support muslim immigration, that houses illegal immigrants in its churches to prevent deportations, that is thrilled to baptize all immigrants (who conviniently can't be deported back to their muslim countries), that publicly advocates for even more humanitarian aid towards refugees and food for africa.

Your personal beliefs are one thing, supporting the church is another.

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>>132976333

>>132976231
WUZ
CRIPTOBAGANS
N SHIT

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>>132976561
>choosing jewish christkikenity over european religions because of LE YAHWE VULT :----DDDDDDDDDD memes
you should start watching varg

>>132975991
the last pope was better because he was actually a nazi

>>132976685
>WE WUZ HITLERZ AND SHIEEEET

You can't even trust churches cause if they said what they wanted they would get their tax exempt revoked

>>132966962
Yeah, what the heck happens if you show up to church by yourself? I never recall saw someone standing by themselves in a Church whenever I was a kid.
Where do you sit if you come alone?
I'm moving soon and want to go to church.

>>132969663
This is my intention. Events are like domino's it takes one to fall to set the chain in motion.

>>132972596
I know that I cannot receive the sacrements yet. And yes it is a Catholic church, as this is the same as my father's and family.

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>>132976561
I visit my boyfriend again in the Netherlands soon, recommend us a beautiful church visit?

We already been in the biggest one in Maastricht and it was AMAZING

>>132976333
I don't know much about it Tbh. It's only a thing in eastern europe, the orthodox churches in germany are rather small and isolated because their members are almost exclusively russians or other eastern europeans. There is one in my neighborhood, but they don't even bother to have anything written in german.

Russian migrants hate muslim migrants, but I don't know if there is a connection to their faith or not.

>>132977015
Depends on where you are going. In the Den Bosch or 's-Hertogenbosch has a beautiful church with lots of ornaments. It is very unique, and even has a replica in Madurodam. Otherwise the Dom in Utrecht I would recommend. And of course the Plechhelmus in Oldenzaal where I visited today is a very beautiful sandstone church with different sections from different periods. Where as the oldest sections of the church are over a thousand years old and the newer sections are about 300 years old.

>>132976773
I just Sat down in one of the empty benches and sung with the songs I knew.

I did not think about what others would think about me coming alone, a young man (something unseen these days) everyone is welcome to newcomers in the community.

Be sure to bring some money for donation.

>>132977669
>Be sure to bring some money for donation.
Gotta make sure that the refugees are sheltered and the niggers in Africa well fed, goyim

>>132977729
Better to have the refugees sheltered in Africa then have them here, changing the demographics forever

>>132977564
Thanks :)

>>132977015
The church in Den Bosch i was referring to is the sint. Jan or saint. John basilica.

The Plechhelmus is also a basilica btw.

>>132977788
>Better to have the refugees sheltered in Africa
That's not what's happening though. Churches and church organizations like Caritas are taking care of them right here in Europe.
>changing the demographics forever
If you care about worldly stuff like that, maybe you're in the wrong cult.

>>132977967
You see, as I believe. The Africans are a pure people, they cannot resist on sharing their wealth and that is why they cannot make progress, their culture forces them to give away everything they have. They are like children without reasoning.

If you help them work the land, teach them to fertilize it, then after the crops are harvested and sold you tell them to buy fertilizer for next year. they will do it and will have great profits the following year. If you instruct them again they will do so again. But if you leave them the next year they will blow all the money on gifts for their family, village and elders. They are a people kind of heart, but need the guiding hand to have a more prosperous society.

As you would help the sick and helpless, so must we help our fellow humans who are not bestowed with the foresight that we have.

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>>132977940
Sounds good, we also visited Muiderslot.
It was empty, no visitors and I saw surprising photos of Dutch royalty they all had HUGE Jewy noses haha and were really short, I wonder what they would think about Dutch people sizes now. The castle was nice but I think they made it more suitable for children or a Larp ;)

>>132978288
The real question is, did you become a christian because you're a nigger lover or a nigger lover because you're christian?

>>132966962

Whenever you decide to join a group, you will always forgo a portion of your individual identity.

Don't mistake the trappings and the rituals for the religion. This was done not for the people, but the institution.

Like any institution, the church consists of a hierarchy of people. And where there are big hierarchies, there are leaks, cracks, and holes from the foundation to roof. This is the nature of things, especially human.

Don't be surprised to find that the person with the warmest smile could actually be the snake. The Christian congregation has learned to be kind and to smile, but behind those smiles are high social-iq individuals.

A contemporary sermon may often twist the words of the bible to suit the morals of contemporary people. Don't have high expectations for wisdom from the pastor during his sermon.

>>132966962

Dont pay attention to the "story" about alchemy and resurrection nonsense... it isnt about a sky daddy.

Listen to the moral of the story. Then, when you can do that, and ignore the fallacies in the story, it will all make sense.

>>132966962
>going to Church in the Netherlands
Catholicism has been a dead letter in the Netherlands for more than 100 years

don't expect much but old people and cuckery

I have a question for all you churchfags. I have a friend who's very liberal who joined the catholic church.

When I asked him "Doesn't the church conflict with your liberal values on gay marriage and other shit?" he said that "Only god can judge someone and the church has been in the wrong for judging people."

I'm not very religion, but surely everything jesus said can't be be a good person and tolerate everything everyone does, can it?

>>132978438
What struck me was his words about Trump and Putin shaking hands, and asking if this was done for the eyes of the world, or it was done out of the heart. he questioned during his sermon the same about us, are we doing the things we do for the outside world, or because we feel it in our hearts.

Since I came not because I want to pretend something that I am not. I came because I feel drawn to it, and so his words struck me.

>>132978593
You're right, that's not what Jesus teaches at all

Look up the real meaning of what "turning the other cheek" is

I would find the links and explain myself but I'm currently phoneposting

>>132977015
break up with him and pay me a visit

>>132978567

This i went to multiple churches its all old fags who are afraid to die

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>>132966962
>>132967076
>If one wishes to enrich himself can he be bored by the enrichment?
You mean enriched by Jewish propaganda? All Abrahamic religions are the bane of European people. If you have convinced yourself that worshiping a dead kike is going to help anyone but (((them))) then you best off yourself now.

>>132966962
Go get baptised

>>132976556
Its "blank" actualy

>>132975979
Catholic church is the white man's church.
Roman =white

Jesus is the only truth in the world. See how all the above people think they are redpilled but mock Jesus as a kike? They have neither understanding nor wisdom on the word. Jesus was the toughest on the Jews and he sought the gentiles because of the evilness of the Jews. Do not let bluepilled pol tards discourage you from the truth. Everything in the Bible is true and none of it is contradictory if you read and study you will see this. Idiot like to quote a passage to make it look like they know, but these are just doing the bidding of the serpent and will did not knowing god. Hell is separation from god, heaven is being with god. The only way to God is through Jesus. Try out many different churches until you feel comfortable, but go to the Bible studies not just worship services.

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>>132978593

* God will Judge those outside the church, but you are to judge those inside the church
* Saints will judge the world
* Judging is one of the 6 foundations of the faith, which must all be laid before we even think of maturity
* Judging is the most serious crime in Sodom
* There are not one, but three types of Sodomites - one is a praying sodomite (Isaiah 1), your mate now ticks two boxes, and don't they get along well? Growing money is the third type.
=> Proof the church is full of faggots
=> https://pastebin.com/GnzP9MHJ

>>132966962
Get baptized asap.

>>132967076
Mass is not supposed to be ''fun''. Shut up, pray, do some introspection. If you want fun, go to a club and bang a barslut.

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>>132981046
I can call the pastor tomorrow morning around 8. I talked with another pastor after the service. He was talking about the baptism for adults occurring during Easter, and that the bishop of Utrecht himself would administer it.

>>132981197
Something that is not boring is not automatically fun. Serious matters are not fun neither boring.

Shutting up, praying, and introspecting is exactly what I did.

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>>132981197
It's fun for women - to them it's quite literally a brothel, with like a daddy for hire, and some fake-ass teaching with no exams, plus magic, plus gossip. You sir, have been cucked, much like Nicolas, the first Nicolatian/Priest (everyone is a priest btw), who let his dominant bitch of a christian wife take many husbands, while he hid from that harsh reality, in that church lala land. Am I lying?

Rev 2 - Jezebel (witch) is IN THE CHURCH

And all who are still with me, thank you for the kind words. I pay little heed to the haters, I really feel this is the right thing to do for me.

I am greatful. Thank you

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>>132981611
Uneducated wanker!
=> Hatred of Evil is a requirement of lover
=> You are literally a faggot - it's the bible, but don't read it, because you're a hindu - can simply make shit up

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Haters = True Love if it's evil they hate. After all, God used that word, and added that he likes those who also hate the Priestcraft (Rev 2).
Ps. We're fixing to kill all of you. I know a verse that says, for you cunts, I can
* Cut the water supply
* Poison the Water
* Use germ warfare
Clue: also found in Revelations

=> Catch up soon, homos!

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>>132981783

Very well then, good fortune in your endeavors. May they further the cause of humanity

>>132982182
Welke kerk?

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Yep, were actually better off without you. Turns out that you're not that special, or unique, under that skin - just another defective clone, exactly like all the others, and none of you will be missed.

Remember Mother Theresa?

The priest, and all those daft nuns, hiding from reality, snipping at each other... the stabbed her in the back!

Am I lying?

>>132981197
>bang a barslut.

OPs inability to do this is precisely the reason why he's larping as a christian.

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>>132966962
regular catholic mass is indeed boring.
The old Tridentine Mass (the old rite in latin) was beautiful, but they are rare to find.

Since you're Dutch you're probably a protestant heathen I can't help you much beyond that

>>132982499
who is that women?

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You know those cute dogs that nobody loves? They go to this nice place, much like church, where they get a wee pat on the head, and some food... then all of them die that night. Otherwise they would form a dangerous pack, and attack the people that are loved, by men.

Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

Ask them what the verse means? Get a second opinion - I might be wrong, am only human, not God.

>>132982311
De Sint plechhelmus in Oldenzaal een katholieke parochie.

>>132982580
My mother is protestant, but my family from the fathers side is catholic. The region where I am from is a catholic region. The only one in the Netherlands above the rivers.

You may find it boring, But it is hard to find something boring if it interests and intrigues you.

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I've been where you were, and becoming a Christian will definitely not help you. You may still live a traditional life and have principles that help your folk, but subscribing to a Semitic religion that's essentially proto-Marxism and is universalist will only make you feel empty inside. The NatSocs realised this and tried to promote "Positive Christianity" which is less cancerous towards Europe.

>>132983344
Perhaps it will not help, perhaps it will. I am not a person to blindly follow doctrine. I learn absorb and will try to be pious, doing the right thing is not always following blindly after authority. Doing the right thing can be questioning the authority.

My vision of European Christianity is like the "positive Christianity" the church was not always as cucked as it is now. There is no reason that it cannot return to this. Just as there is no reason to not try to uncuck the west.

In the end does not everyone engage in religion and spirituality in their own individual way?

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"I will send you a Strong Delusion,
that you might believe the lie,
so that Judgement may come"

It's my family dude, the people I love, the ones who raised me, my friends... fuck all of you dumb, disrespectful, arrogant shits - now it's time to die!

>>132966962
Good for you brother. Make sure to interpret the bible yourself and not blindly accept any other's

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>And another one who does not understand the book of revelation

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Ask a pastors wife this question:
If this is love, then what would fake love look like?
(Intriuged... fake love? She's hot too, doesn't even know she has a free pass, cos God hates him, and cuck is is his destiny, and his history)

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>>132984144
Thanks Einstein, 2 sec Google search is pretty much as good as what the world's top theologian might come up with.

A crafty wrote that one, dumbass. It's wrong! The catholics have a sermon on this, but they left it in Latin, to bury it. You can destroy all knowledge of Truth, yet it remains indifferent, and one day, a smart guy who loves TrutH (not you), rediscovers it. So what's the Hidden Manna? I have earned the right to eat from the tree of life - Rev 2. I will smash the nations..

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Try an image search, and then interrogate a dozen pastors, and see if any can accept correction, or learn something new. They're wolves!

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5 fold ministry - rejected by all sects,, for reasons that make no sense at all except the pentecostals, who just pretend. Problem is, pastor is a very low rank, and none are paid positions. We have those 5 things in Engineerinh btw, and I am Apostle rank, I design new weapons all the time, solve complex problems, breal new ground, kill the giants that you can't. I don't plant churches, no; and I don't get paid, but when I do, it's not handfuls of cash from retarded bossy women. Think about it...

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>>132980730
Heaven is when we are on the same page. Its perfect maturity, where gender passes away, and we are like the angels. It's sanity, and possessing the capability to genuinely love others; as opposed to simply talking smack, and thinking words like sorry, thanks, or I love you is anything more than a cheap lie.
1 John 3:18 - it's not words
1 John 3:16 - more expensive

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>>132983731
The spiritual state of post-industrial modernity is pitiful. We are offered false solutions to our problems, fake ideologies, and fake religions. The only thing any sane man can do in response to this inertia is to go back to his roots, instead of worshipping the fables of another people (you can guess who that may be).

>>132978593
Your friend is dead wrong. The church is perfect and never wrong because the body of Christ is perfect. The church condemns his secular satanist values. That said the church is a hospital for sinners and he will learn the truth over time

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>>132966962
Make sure to go to a catholic church. Go to confession first, if you have a mortal sin to confess. Every individual must start with himself in the fight against degeneracy.

Repent your sins and confide in the sacred heart of our Lord Jesus Christ.

>>132986501
>where gender passes away
Wtf? Are we living in heaven today?

>>132966962
dont take communion you cant until you do a bunch of stuff first so when everybody gets up to do that stay seated

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>>132972434
Always sad to see satanic-socialist shilling from anons with polish flags.

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>>132966962
>failing to the jew on a stick meme

>>132966962
Good goy, (((church))) will save you

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>>132989260
I think if he were still around he'd prefer it if you referred to him by his proper name - Rabbi Yeshu.

>>132973088
This