How come we are still not a spacefaring civilization /pol/?

>>132932232

The subhuman white "race". Thankfully its being bred out and we will see progress soon.

>>132932232
the jews

the fact that doing it takes fucking time?

niggers and leftists. collectivist ideologies are the Great Filter.

Nonwhites and the Kali Yuga in general

Politics.

>>132932232
you realize those domes would be miles wide and we have no way to manufacture a continuous piece of anything that big

>>132932232
Niggers,sandniggers and spics in white countries. Above and all though, the jews

>>132932232
capitalism and greed aka jews

>>132932232

We're too busy mixing the races of the world up and importing Third World immigrants to be concerned with space.

>>132932491
>collectivism is a great filter
Yeah, because libertarians and hunter gatherers are better at getting to space than Nazis. Your body is a collectivist organism. Is that holding back each of your individual cells? Something so arbitrary and subjective is not a "great filter"

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>>132932357

>>132932232
Religious people.

>>132932232
>What is holding Earth back?
Communists.

>>132932232
Porn, so the Jews

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>>132932670
lmao this thread is a goldmine.

>>132932232
Belief in the afterlife.

Without belief that you will live in the sky for eternity after you die of diabetes the only continuity you have left is humanity, so you end up caring a whole hell of a lot more about the well being of the species over the long term. Suddenly you start caring a lot less about spending your money on bigger and bigger televisions in order to bide your time until you get to heaven and more about spending your money on things that will help your great great great great grandkids survive resource depletion or the next supervolcano.

>>132932232
We only learned how to fly to space 60 years ago

>>132932232
The forces of Chaos.

>>132932534
nanomachines, son

>>132932232
>What is holding Earth back?
Religion. Science Denialism. Anti-intellectualism. All of which are often exacerbated by white people.

The whole world would need to be one global country and we are not so it will not happen inb4 globalist shill

space is expensive and pointless.
there's going to need to be some kind of profit motive before large scale space exploration/habitation can begin.

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Here is the solution.

>>132932232
Earth is a flat plane that never ends and the idea of outer space is a lie.

>>132932925
Go back to your home country then and go to space. Oh wait you fucking can't without whites

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>>132932232
>What is holding Earth back?

Religion.

/thread

>>132932232
>stage two civilization confined to the neighborhood of a single star
but_that's_fucking_wrong_you_retard.jpg

We actually have the technology to build an orbital ring, yet we haven't. Hope to god we can before I die. See you in space faggots. If you don't know what an orbital ring is, watch this video. Yes he has a speech impediment, but he knows what he's talking about and his videos are apolitical.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMbI6sk-62E

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Because of communists, niggers and goat fucking mudslimes.

>>132932232
Because space is fake, earth is flat, and we cannot pierce the firmament to enter the heavens.

>>132933115
>Hope to god we can before I die.
for what purpose? because it's "cool"?
do you have any idea how much more complex and expensive such a thing would be compared to anything else humanity has ever engineered?
you need a good reason to do it.

>>132932925
fuck off

>>132933050
Whites plunder resources and technology from other nations through war thats what "muh white achievements" are built on.
>what are Russians and Chinese and Indians
Slavs and Asians arent white.

>>132932821
Empirically opposite is true. Atheists aren't exactly known for having kids in the first place.

>>132932554

Commie confirmed
Also the real reason is we focus to much on helping poor niggers and getting involved with sand nigger conflicts in sandyland, instead of focusing on domestic issues and getting to space

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>>132933085
I totally didn't expect this explanation from a fucking kike... like you lot didn't try to destroy religion before through communism.
The sooner you're all fucking dead, the sooner we get to advance in a meaningful way.

>>132932809
he's right you know,

>>132933281
>incoherent ranting
a fine specimen of the typical ignoramus whiteboi.

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>>132932232
All the money that could go to space goes to dem programs for the dindos

>>132933283
Oh look a commie suddenly believes in race.

Religions, now and ever.

>>132932232
Anyone not White or Japanese.

>>132933085
Obvious bait, but fuck it. Soviet Russia lagged behind the USA technologically.

>>132933283
Germans are the pioneers of rocket technology, these men where Christians. And Slavs are white, Russians are a bit borderline though, sometimes.

>>132932357
>>132932925
>white people
White people created space travel and first primitive space faring vehicles capable of orbiting around the Earth. Try harder, eartling faggot.

>>132932821
>>132932690
>>132933085
>thinking we don't pray to our Lord, Jesus Christ in outer space.

Stop blaming God for your own personal failures, human.

>>132932925
Nigger are you fucking serious? All of the bible thumpers put together do not even come close to the anti-civilizational and anti-scientific savagery displayed by non whites the world over. You KNOW this is true. You just pretend like you dont. Go live in africa, they will rape you to cure their AIDS, then they will put a flaming tire over you head. Or Asia perhaps? No? Why not? Maybe they want to make an aphrodisiac out of your bones. Dont be such a bigot!

>>132932232

We aren't allowed into space. Not even our own moon.

1. We are forbidden to weaponize space.

2. We are forbidden to colonize and explore the moon, because of the control mechanisms there in place.

3. We are forbidden from further nuclear weapon wars.

irrationality

if we all got our priorities straight, learned to enjoy being productive and likewise didn't tolerate corruption in others as we do not tolerate it in ourselves we would progress very rapidly

imagine if the countless $100s of billions in government waste and wasteful consumer spending was directed towards R&D

>>132932232
We are spacefaring. However, there is nowhere to go right now. No point in putting people in space when robots can do it.

All we really want in space is mining, research, and exploration.

We are already doing 2 of those things with the 3rd not far behind. Doing those with humans would be idiotic.

>>132932554
What a stupid statement. If a person were greedy and there were things of value in space then the solutions to those two conditions is obvious.

>add giant rocket thrusters to one side of the earth
>turn the entire earth into a spacecraft
>????
>PROFIT

Civilization types are literally science fiction

>>132932232
Space.

>>132933424
All the money that could be for science your country waste it on military. Dont be confused.

>>132932936
I get that we have to do whatever we can to prevent both nuclear war and a nuclear war, but consider the following. Even the most moral and upstanding populations on Earth have sucky governments. If you average out the governance of the entire world then all the actually productive regions of the world will suddenly be ruled by a bunch of incompetent and corrupt crooks just in it politics to become filthy rich taking bribes. Plus if there were a world government there would be no where you can frun from the shitty governance.

I'd settle just with more effort put into international law enforcement and more international dispute arbitration. Maybe the US should push to give the UN an honest to god military (made mostly of US military personel and equpment of course) that way the US gets to be the good guy for real AND establishes a foothold in the now much more powerful UN for the rest of time even as China speeds ahead towards surpassing the US economically.

Just my two cents.

if Nazi Germany had won we would be on mars at least. The tech advances they were making were instance. Now all we care about is jew profit, thus no reason to even leave the earth.

>>132933401
A wild faggot appears and starts hating on the civilization that protects him from subhumans whow ould throw him off a building.

>>132933557
Why would we colonize the moon? There isn't anything there dingus.

>>132933283
What the fuck, you reek of indoctrination. Try again spic or better yet go home and make it great.

>Kikes plunder resources and technology from other nations through war thats what "muh multiculturalism achievements" are built on.

ftfy

>>132932357
Top kek. I can't tell if this is dumb trolling or serious.

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>>132932925
>Religion.
In other words, you deny the need for the belief in transcendence... ok.
>Science Denialism
I get it... Like when you commie faggots say that everyone is equal.
>Anti-intellectualism
I might be mistaking, but I kind of remember reading of communists killing all sorts of intellectuals... like university professors and the like.

>>132933557
No scientific or technological advancement was made following the rules, mate.

Ancap space travel nao.

>>132933490
>White people created space travel
Russians / Slavs arent white, huwitefag!

>>132933470
Science advances despite christianity's best efforts to impede it. Thats the beauty of it. Science works no matter how many scientists you burn at the stake.

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>>132933387
your only argument is my flag how ironic

>>132933387
>like you lot didn't try to destroy religion before
fuck you're legit retarded

pic related to emphasize the scale of your immense retardation

>>132933618
but I thought a full third of the budget was for entitlement spending?

>>132932232
You know the answer, you cheeky cunt.

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Space may be the final frontier
But it's made in a Hollywood basement

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>>132932357
>>132932925
>Implying that whites haven't been the catalyst for all space travel technology ever

>>132932534
>implying those are domes and not pockets of highly pressurized gas contained by electromagnetism which forms a micro-atmosphere

>>132933490
>thinking we don't pray to our Lord, Jesus Christ in outer space.
How do you locate Mecca in space? Do sextant's work in space? Where's the horizon?

>>132932232

gravity

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literally nothing holding us back

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>>132933490
fuck off dirty trailer trash

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>>132932232
Your problems won't be solved by going into space, space fag.

>>132932232
Christian love for niggers.

>>132933680

There is plenty there, dingus.

>what is helium-3

Close the door on your way out of the thread.

>>132932232
Space is a Jewish meme.

>>132933640
There is a unique kind of naivety that globalists have that can be charming if it wasn't so lethal.

>>132932232

KIKES because they know all the white people would leave and they would be stuck with their pets.

Lack of funding for the sciences, short term goals of our economic system.

>>132933525
>Go live in africa
if huwitefaggots and christianity hadnt fucked up that beautiful continent with endless wars and colonialism that place wouldnt be a wasteland now. what, you think christianity somehow just appeared there??

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>>132932232
I dunno, but I have a good idea

Look up solar warden if you are new

>>132933760
God isnt real but religion is necessary to keep the masses in line, you should know this shlomo. The average person isnt intelligent enough to live properly without being told what to do, and without a divine power to back up that lie, he wont listen to what you tell him to do. Thats the gist of it.

>>132933294
What do kids have to do with it?

Also higher income and higher IQ individuals are known for not having many kids. You might as well be claiming that high birth rates are due to fast food because poor people eat a lot of fast food and breed quickly.

>>132933595
Mining in space is not economically viable.

Go take a look at commodity prices right now. There is no shortage of material on earth worth the expense of trying to recover it out in outer space. It would be easier to start digging on the ocean floor.

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>>132933641
At the very least. I think that's why there's always these alternate history versions of a hyper futuristic national socialist world,even designed by the (((people))) who are supposed to be staunchly against it.

>>132933890
Hahaha, the critical thinking of a American mongrel everyone.

>>132933874
>>132933890
You cunts are hilarious. Without Nazi German rocket and jet technology you would still be throwing huskies out of bi planes.

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>>132933618
You buffoon, you think our "military budget" extends solely to putting bullets in rifles? Vast amounts of that funding goes towards research that ends up furthering the technologies that will enable space exploration. Does DARPA ring a bell?

>>132932500

You mean the people who pioneered flight and space travel in the world as we know it today? Especially the Nazi's which the Russians and the USA/Britain used German scientists and plans like clock work after WW2?

Interesting?

>>132933850
notanargument

Fite me. I have the high ground. You cannot win.

>>132933603
And then we all freeze to death when the earth drifts too far away from the sun, dingus.

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>>132932232
(((Space))) is Fake News.

>>132933909
>arms like the Michelin Man
ME FEELIN' HONGR'Y, HONK'Y!

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>>132933760
You heebs really are going all out on this one, aren't you?
The religion itself doesn't fucking matter. What matters is that people believe in transcendence. People believing that every action they might partake in will have consequences long after they're dead. That stimulates people to act in virtuous ways.
I know you hook-nosed degeneracy-pushing swindlers can't wrap your brain around this, but not everything revolves around carnal satisfaction, assholes.

>>132933890
>Europe spent the last over half century pouring hundreds of billions of free moneys into Africa
>Africa still a shit hole

See graphic:>>132933797

>>132933811

hahahaha lol who knows whats out there?

>>132933772
"the catalyst"
its easy to be the catalyst for anything when you turn neighbouring countries into shitholes and plunder their resources and enslave their people.

>>132934155
>a wild spook enters the thread

you guys still pushing this nonsense? did you rope any dopes with it?

>>132932232
Jews, welfare, not killing off the stupid people, natural rewards for being intelligent, no promotion of learning, a lot of scholarships are directed towards unintelligent sports players or minors to fit a quota, corruption in politics, lack of development of newer space craft engines (Blue Origin and Space X use old Russian spare engines though I think Space X finally developed their own engine), lack of large cheap systems to get to orbit, space funding was cut several times, lack of orbital shipyard, no effective sublight spacecraft engine, lack of outposts to allow construction of habitual structures for long-term human stay, lack of water and food for long-term human stay, long-term power generation for planets/moons that have an atmosphere or to far from the sun to gather enough energy, and no long term oxygen farms (gardens or farms) for long-term oxygen supplies for high population.

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>>132933734
Good timing by the way, just found this image earlier today. And stop saying it was Slavs, and that they aren't white, both those things are lies.

>>132933890
Christianity did not ruin africa. What ruined africa was white people giving niggers aid, this allowed them to breed uncontrollably. Africa should have never been touched, that way niggers would have just continued to live like savages but in a controlled manner. Alternatively, after it was colonized, we never should have left, because once we did the aforementioned overpopulation and lack of control occurred. Africa is shit because the average african IQ is fucking 70. Theyre retards, plain and simple.

>>132933490
Nice ayylmao larp

>>132932232
>What is holding Earth back?
Identity politics and anti-national sentiment.

>>132933804
Unfortunately parasites are universal, no pun intended. In any corner of the universe where life is found you will also find a parasite.

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>>132934213
People still reply to you lot? You're walking bags of spare organs. There's no other fucking way to justify your consumption of oxygen.
Keep your organs intact, faggot, we'll harvest them if a right winger will be in need.

>>132934289
Don't you find it strange a (((communist))) suddenly believes in race? Trump just signed off 600 Million dollars to feed shitskins in Africa, there is the real problem.

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>>132933994
It's because fash nations have greatness, accomplishment, unity and the ever greater need to progress as their core values. The established values today are mediocrity, instance gratification, pleasure and comfort as the core values. We are nothing but weak animals sitting around watching porn, eating fast food and listening to degenerate shit music about fucking sluts and making muh moniez.

Fuck you America.

>>132934213
Africans are slaves to low IQ's and high crime rates with absolutely no impulse control.

>>132933804
Everything on that picture was done by a religious person.

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>>132934354
Once we exterminate the parasite you replied to, we'll have the knowledge and experience to deal with all those that follow.

>>132934180
I mean, your pic's not wrong. Jews don't bathe, they just pile on perfume over and over.

>>132932232
When the fish comes out of the water. Every life has its place.

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>>132934299

DEUCE 9's Confirm...

>>132933909
You have to keep reminding young people that it was the Black Caucus that defunded the moon mission because >muh inna city youfs.

The media has done a good job of covering up that fact, implying we stopped going to the moon/space because we just got bored of it.

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>>132932232
Space travel is ridiculously expensive in its current state, and we haven't figured out a way to get a return on investment yet, so there's no pressing need to pour boatloads of grant money into it (especially when massive portions of our budget are already being sucked up by entitlement spending, pointless wars, and life support for third world hellholes).

>>132934059
It was actually Americans who got all the rocket technology form Germans post-war, Soviets failed to capture even single rocket scientist, intact V-2 or jet fighter.

Soviets build their own system form ground up.

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>>132932232
Niggers and jews and the useful idiots that enable them.

>>132934457
wrong, it was done by scientists

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>>132932232
>What is holding Earth back?

a rat bit my sister Nell

>>132932690
You're right, everyone should be atheist and we could live better lives easier thanks to science.

P.S. end police and justice systems

>>132932232
Religion and Niggers.

>>132933166
Atheism is the best

>>132934085
You underestimate my power fuckboi

>>132934450
it really doesnt take long to uncover the racist foundations of whitebois' barbaric parasitic culture does it.

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>>132934612
Wow... you have no fucking idea.
>Commies in charge of knowing their own history.

Thread turned to fucking shit now. Bailing.

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>>132934669
It isn't. It turns good people into kikes.

>>132933762
What is this supposed to be showing?

>>132934059
>Nazi rocket techs are awesome! (((Einstein))) discovered atom bomb!
>Jews aren't white!
Pick one.

>>132933269
Watch the video. At around 19 minutes onward.

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>>132933648
Careful, don't get too close. He might get his faggotry on you if you're not careful.

>>132934707
Its a fact nigger. Reality has a racial bias. Average nigger IQ in africa is around 70. When a white person has an IQ of 70, doctors call that clinically retarded. In africa the average person is clinically retarded.

>>132932232

White men spend all their time, energy, and technological prowess on fighting each other, rather than exterminating the sub-humans wasting the resources we need to conquer the galaxy.

Let's stop LARPing for just a minute shall we? Can you actually imagine a white man literally slitting the throats of hundreds of sub-human babies, women, and kids? Of course not. It's never going to happen. White men are weak cucks. This planet will be entirely black and brown except for a few key East Asian countries by 2200.

We will never leave the solar system and whites will be extinct. Future we chose.

>>132932232
> Elon Musk
>want to buy a Russian rocket for the lulz
>Russians say No!! and laugh at you
>say fuck it. I'll build my own rocket
>15 years
>launching dozens of rockets a year
>already the lowest price for it's weight class
>first stage can be reused
>now plans to build a true interplanetary spaceship

this is just one guy and his company. imagine if the world was united and we spent $1 trillion every year instead.

>>132932232
We're still working on the em drive. Give it like 50 years.

>>132934437
(((America))), you mean

I believed in 'Americanism' too-until I saw what it really was. A testbed for a new order, that nobody here nor us is going to be a full part of. Fuck us for doing what we thought was right,desu

>>132932357
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0274518/

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>>132934877
Are all commies this dumb? How the fuck do you not forget how to breathe, retard?

>>132934926
>Reality has a racial bias.
Spent centuries plundering and corrupting African homeland, Enslave them, work on plantation, no education
"Why can't they pass an IQ test???"
Huwiteboi logic.

>>132932232
Mostly a lack of investment from either governments or private sources. Those things are there now, which is why you're seeing all of these private rocket companies get traction.

>>132933618
Military technologies get filtered down to other places relatively quickly. The military spending actually does a hell of a lot more for research than welfare does.

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>>132935019
>ancap

>>132934877
Einstein was just one member of the Manhattan Project, it was collaborative effort and the Nazis were nipping at their heals but never finished as of being on the backfoot for most of the war. Either way the bomb would have been made sometime along the way.

>>132934926
And the ones that are a sigma lower are like the Walking Dead.

>>132933610
It's hilarious how it just takes one literally communist scientist creating a "scale " of science fiction civilizations and every IFLS "science" worshiper assumes it's an inevitability.

Fuck actual science and the limits of physics, some foreigner with an intellectual sounding name created a "scientific" scale one step removed from Star trek technobabble and we're way behind schedule! So let's stamp out religion and human individuality so we can form a one world government and get to work!
Idiots.

>>132935127
If we're being really honest, we also needed enough computer technology to land big rockets. We only had that by the 90s with the Delta Clipper project.

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>>132934213
>its easy to be the catalyst for anything when you turn neighbouring countries into shitholes and plunder their resources and enslave their people
Yeah, you mean like how ALL successful civilizations have prospered since civilization began?

Stop being such a fucking crybaby and give credit where credit is due.

>>132934974
Have you ever read a science book on FTL in your entire commie life? FTL is beyond us. Going even a fraction of the speed is at least a thousand years away. And it would take something like 80 or more years to reach another star system. Face it, faggot. The human race is going to die off way before then and it will probably be attributed to your retarded beliefs.

>>132934907
What the fuck is that thing in your picture?

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>>132934201
Eternal nothingness. Sort yourself out in the here and now instead of creaming your undies over some alien chick fantasy.

>>132935161
>Either way the bomb would have been made sometime along the way.
By Asians. If huwitefaggots hadnt corrupted one fine country with opium.

>>132934437
We deserve this for interference in ww2

>>132935300
Satan.

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>>132932232

Too much money for gibs, not enough to space programs.

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>>132934951
Yeah, you're a dumb fuck if you think white people will leave this planet and take your kind with them.
Your entire philosophy is jewish nigger-loving hippie horse shit.
>>132935143
You must really enjoy having your tonsils buttered by kosher cream to stick with a philosophy that will starve you to death.

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>>132935074
You are just trolling at this point.

Do not feed this man.

>>132934707
You literally just spouted anti-white rhetoric from the get go. The difference between us is that we have verifiable facts to prove why Africans keep fucking themselves and looking like high functioning retards compared to every other group.

>>132934612
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_space_program

> Helped by rocket scientist Helmut Gröttrup and other captured Germans until the early 1950s,[7]:30,80–82 they built a replica of the V-2 called the R-1

>Soviets had access to German test sites in east Prussia

>>132935074
They were just as retarded when we first discovered them you fucking mouthbreather. Who "exploited" them before that?

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>>132932232
>What is holding Earth back?

>>132935260
>the conquerors deserve credit where credit is due!
>All these scientific achievement belongs to huwitefaggots, not our (((jewish))) overlords!
pick one.

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>>132935074
You're a nigger too? Oh boi, this keeps getting better and better.

>>132935288
>Going even a fraction of the speed is at least a thousand years away
more like 50 to 100 years away if we actually put some effort into it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEtaQpHBP4U

>>132935288
I wasn't talking about ftl travel you fucking retard. Nowhere in the OP or my post does it say this.

>>132935341
That was the first thing which came up to my mind, but still what the fuck?

>>132934627
In a religion-free society police and justice systems wouldn't be needed because there would be barely any crimes committed anyway

>>132934624
>>flag
Implying i would believe you

>>132935352
Trump just recreated the space council and is already diverting government funding to the Mars mission.

>>132934907
NO really, what is that?
Source on video?

>>132935370
At least communism has been tried and failed with limited success. Ayncrap cant even get off the drawing board suckka.

>>132935352
I was gonna say "niggers", but your thought is very true.

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>>132935481
Wait, you're lecturing people that you perceive to have (((jewish))) overlords?
Do you understand the meaning of the word "irony", commie?

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>>132934707
Now I see why you're hiding behind that gay flag. Why don't you turn on your location?

And while you're at it, check out pic related.

>>132932232
Because it's going to take several years for us to build the shit we need to build the ships we need to start colonizing & travel to/from the other planets in our fucking solar system.

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>>132932232
Earth hasn't selected the proper leader to lead them towards the stars.

>>132935260
>europeans
>better at exploration

order of colonizers
>portugal
>spain
>UK
>france
>netherlands.

hmmmmmmmmmmm almost as if it was easy colonizing the more west you were. Were you expecting the ottoman empire to colonize the americas all the way from Constantinople?

>>132935553
I'm pretty sure I had a nightmare of this as a child.

>>132934951
>>132934926
>>132934531
Well, apparently we have stumbled onto a clue here.

>>132934544
You already have your answer in terms of resources.

>>132934798

Except atheist takes people further away from any religion. Good b8 m8

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>"Science and religion are not antagonists. On the contrary, they are sisters. While science tries to learn more about the creation, religion tries to better understand the Creator. While through science man tries to harness the forces of nature around him, through religion he tries to harness the force of nature within him."
- Wernher von Braun

We are not spacefaring, because we drag around monumental weights called "non-white people" and/or everything related to them.

>>132935576
>believe you

see this is where it gets real simple.
Science isn't based upon a system of belief

>>132935624
>"all companies are secretly controlled by jews!"
>"we should privatise everything and let corporations own them!"
your meme ideology is pathetic and laughable.

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>>132935608
>limited success
You must have a pretty low standard... killing 100 million of your own fucking people is a "limited success" the same way the launch of the space shuttle Challenger is a fucking "limited success".
Just before you google the name of the shuttle, it blew to shit after shortly after launch.

>>132932232
(((They))) didn't want civilization going to space until they had complete control of the planet.

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>>132935074
>Africans were smart, prosperous people before the white man got them
>But somehow got easily enslaved by small groups of white men
I know you're just trolling at this point, and I hate myself for feeding you, but on the off chance you're not you HAVE to be educated.

>>132935508
Speed of light mother fucker. Alpha Centauri is the closet star system to that of ours at 4.367 light years away. We won't ever get light speed any time soon. So unless you plan on freezing yourself for a really long time, forget about seeing it in your life time or your children's children's life time.

>>132935416
Majority of the scientists, intact rockets and all jet fighters were captured by the western allies. They had the advantage yet they failed to be first in space. Really makes you think.

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>>132935831
Kikes control the government. That's my concern. Companies come and go (of the top 200 corporations of last century only 2 are alive today).
>>132935752
I thought the same thing, but then I see what's happening today and it sort of disproves the conclusion. As it turns out, the belief in transcendence is important for humans to act with any sort of decency or virtue.

We have been exploring space for the last 2 decades, but it has not been disclosed to the public. Once Earth's resources become so depleted that we need more laborers in space to continue to keep Earth running, disclosure will happen. We are close, but not quite there yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AepszCf1G3Q

The evidence they found on the Moon

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>>132932232

Because the wrong side won WWII.

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>>132936084
Russians kidnapped German scientists. Commies didn't even figure out agriculture... people were dying in the millions because of starvation.
Stop sucking your own dick, retard. Communism failed for a reason: you are a bunch of retards.

>>132935767
So all the (((people))) that you're talking about are immune to corruption and telling lies to the public?

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>>132932232

Humans are very good at cost-benefit analysis in the short term, but so bad at it over the long-term that successful societies have to possess entire legal and cultural systems to mitigate it. This makes a concerted effort towards a goal like becoming a type 2 civilization impossible. It has to be done in small steps that people can recognize as advantageous, either to the individual or the ruling class.

Technology advanced so rapidly in Europe due to countries and empires needing any edge they could get on their competitors, (which were right next door)

Nuclear Power was crash-coursed because of a world fucking war

The space programs of the Soviets and Burgers were done for gains in prestige that were tangible enough to be done in just a couple decades

These were all borne of necessity, and it hasn't been approaching necessary for us to get our shit together until recently. You can't convince a government, or an electorate to throw away trillions of shekels away on something abstract that will pay off after they're dead, especially when current circumstances aren't awful yet.

Give it time anon.

>>132935534
Leaving the star system is the only thing that matters. If an anomaly happens like a black hole it doesn't matter if your on Mars. We're fucked.

>>132935976
Fascism is just communism with extra steps

>>132935988
>Literally your argument: "you're not prosperous unless you sink all your money into arms and weapons!"
The Chinese, the isolationist Nips and the Aztecs are just some examples of prosperous nations who invested in economy and and culture and not the warmaking potential of their technologies.

>>132932232
You want to know why we can't get to space and become a second tier civilization.
Look at this thread
>Niggers
>Whitey
>Third worlders
>Government
>Religion
>Jews
>Military Industrial complex

All of this from people on there computers in the safety of their homes.

Very few people actually started brain storming and started pointing fingers and airing out grievances.

That is why we are not in deep space exploration RIGHT NOW!!!

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>>132936303

>>132936099
Those 72 virgins amirite?

When murder becomes a virtue the concept is useless

>>132932232
Inefficient allocation of resources, like feeding niggers that are destined to die by mother nature.

>>132932232
Religion and also the hoax reality of society and economic system

T. Ultrafedora tipper

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>>132935481
That's really the best you've got? That ridiculous /pol/ strawman that has nothing to do with what I said?

Imagine being this fucking salty that you can't bring yourself to admit that white people pioneered space exploration...

>>132932232
Almost all the work towards the space race was done during the cold war

Now that we don't have anything to fight for, people have gotten lazy and decadent. Simple as that.

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>>132932232

There's nothing out there we want. It's a complete waste of money and time and most importantly, the brainpower of our smartest people. Space exploration is a pointless dead end for the next several centuries at least.

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>>132936501
>When murder becomes a virtue the concept is useless
Very true, yet, if you think of your actions of transcending your life and you're white, you'll see a dramatic rise in the good decisions you'll make.
Let me rephrase it: What would you prefer, people going more often to church or more pride parades?

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>>132933909

>>132932232
when all white people are gone or are left in small numbers like the Jews, Asians will invade and dominate the entire globe with an iron fist. If you think that Genghis was bad just you wait and see what the Chinese do to niggers when theres nobody left to stop them.

Then, and only then. Will chinks and maybe a few others, move on to space. Probably through robots first

>>132932232
>What is holding Earth back?
Nonwhites, obviously. Back when only whites were in charge of tech and space exploration, we went to the moon. Now we don't even launch shuttles and NASA makes SJW announcements about how diverse it is.

>>132932232
>What is holding Earth back?
human stupidity must be eradicated, like polio
genius sperm donors can do it easily.

>>132934155
>described in the bible
Why would I trust the bible more than science?

>>132933775
>niggers forget to pay electric bill for atmosphere
>capitalism forcefully removes niggers into the sun

>>132935583
Bullshit. Congress has already put a kibosh on the budget cuts to NASA Trump wanted. He doesn't give a shit about the exploration, exploitation, and colonization of space. he just wants more dosh for muh wall.

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>>132936355
>The Chinese, the isolationist Nips and the Aztecs are just some examples of prosperous nations who invested in economy and and culture and not the warmaking potential of their technologies
Are you FUCKING kidding me with this? You picked the Chinese, Japanese, and fucking AZTECS as your examples of peaceful societies?

Also, implying that whites were successful ONLY because they invested in conquering other civilizations is the epitome of willful ignorance.

You have to be trolling. Literally no one could be this dumb.

>>132936716
They're both religious activities, leftists are just too intellectually dishonest to admit it

Cult leaders also tell their followers they will trancend and then retarded shit happens.

You're so close to figuring out the answer

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>>132936881
Hannity-poster detected.

>>132936716
Not all religions are equal mate

>>132933461

Sorry buddy, I got news for you. Most of the scientists at NASA are atheists.

Religion and intelligence do not go together.

yeah honestly i think japanese/chinese and other advanced ass asian civilization will just leave our retard asses down here and head for a better tomorrow.

The jews will probably go with them

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>>132936782
(You)

>>132932978
Don't take the bait goyim

We too busy with cnn memes.

>>132937093
And we have a winner

>>132932357
FPJP

>>132937344
I don't know why the rest dont see it

>>132935161
God, why couldn't they have finished? I probably wouldn't even exist and it'd still be worth it.

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>>132936987
>They're both religious activities
That's what I was getting at. That's precisely it, you've hit the nail on the fucking head!
My argument was that channeling said faith towards some volcano demon was more productive than having a bunch of faggots grinding in front of children.

>>132937093
No, they aren't. My point is that religion is needed both for a sense of transcendence and for the people that need to believe in something....
Communists don't believe in miracles (though, for the other shit they think of the world, you'd think miracles wouldn't be the craziest thing to believe for them), they believe in government. That belief killed millions of their own people.
You can say what you will about religion, but it never killed the way commies did... not their own people.

>>132937438
Too focused on how people think rather than what they think.

>>132932232
Because was America wasting its tax payers' money to foreign wars and aid, it's limiting itself from funding NASA.

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You really think you'll get to a type 2 civilization with niggers still around?

>>132937566
Thats true communism is the epitome of human evil

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>>132937620
Actually, most of NASA's money went into "Muslim outreach programs".... so yeah, thank a jew for that.

>>132937669
Maybe we can keep them in zoos or something to serve as examples for future generations.
>See that, grandson?
>Jews made normies believe those monkeys are our equals
>Beware of human parasites

>>132937609
You're a smart man,kiwi

Need a space race 2.0, I think Trump wants to do a lot in the stars considering he is getting the NSC back in comission and ever since we landed on the moon we said lol fuck it 'gommunism is dead lel' and just sent retards to fix the ISS and satellites into space rather than men beyond our familiar horizon.

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>>132937414
....first post ....j-j-jew post?

>>132933772
Farscape?

>>132937856
Even zoos are to good we should make some kind of gene prison, and do a genocide on the free ones

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>>132932232
Nazis were far ahead of their time. Maybe we shouldn't have beat them.

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>>132937856
This literally used to happen. They'd bring natives from Africa, Australia, India....etc and put them in human zoos in places like New York and London

>>132937273
No, seriously, give me reasons.

>>132937566
Islam murdered so many people that the Indians formed a counter-islam sect that goes on to this day, it absolutely killed the way the commies did.

Here is a counter question, given a binary choice, would you pick a devout christian Nigerian or an alinskyite white marxist anarchist

>>132938214
Why are you replying to a troll post?

>>132938214
Because you are spirituality retarded?

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>>132938150
Even Jane Austen knew this shit

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>>132934076
Reading comprehension/10

>>132938214
Bible: has everything you need to know written plainly for you to read.
Science: "This atom is the smallest particle ever!" 10 years later "No, there are smaller particles than atoms, we were just kidding."

Science is the fucking CNN of life.

>>132932232

Why do you think we're not a spacefaring civilzation?

I know its due to the fucking jew. Why do we feed the fucking nigger? Why do I spend money on welfare and not on rockets to the stars?

The fucking evil retarded jew. And its nigger.

In my state if yo have in your house 3 nigger kids the state will give you 2400 dollars a month.

Who do you think takes in this kids? jews, gays and pedos.

>>132938251
Easy question the Niger

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>>132938280

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>>132938251
>Indians formed a counter-islam
That's my point. They killed whoever wasn't in their little tribe. Commies killed tribe members.
I'd be a christian nigger than a marxist. There's something very wrong with Marxists' heads. Niggers are just dumb animals that can't make heads or tails of the world that surrounds them.

>>132932232
Why do you believe spacefaring civilizations exist?

>>132938449
Bible:
>believe something a 2000 year old book tells you. A book which is full of animal sacrifices, God-sanctioned genocides, and impossible shit (like the entire fucking world being flooded, what the fuck).
>Invented by jews from the Middle East

Science:
>actually learning about the world through rigorous measurement and experiment. Gaining intellectual understanding of how the world functions, then putting the knowledge to use in a way that has tangible benefits for the whole of humanity.
>Invented by Europeans

>>132938897
Bible: understand abstract use of language
Science: autism

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>>132932232
It is not easy to get to another star. The planets in our solar system are not habitable. To go faster than the speed of light may not be possiable . Then the niggers holding back civilization.

>>132936355
Neither the Chinese nor the Japanese were pacifistic.

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>>132938897

see >>132933760

>>132938897
>Science used to bash conservatives around the head while liberals smugly ignore their hatred of GMO and "Big Pharma"

>>132938350
THICC BOOTY TO BE PLUNDERED

>>132932232
There's no need to conquer space when there's still a lot to do on Earth.

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>>132938897
Here are some of the faults with that reasoning, as it applies right now. People use science today to justify degeneracy (lest we forget Bill Nye, the faggot guy) as well as jewish operations (global warming A.K.A. the atmospheric jew).
Under the guise of science Marxists push their propaganda freely, without being challenged out of fear of being an outcast (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/11261872/James-Watson-selling-Nobel-prize-because-no-one-wants-to-admit-I-exist.html)

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>>132938897
Fucking hell mate. Could you tip any harder? Thanks for the lulz at least.

>>132938658
Commies killed anyone who wasn't 'sufficiently loyal' with that meaning changing by the day, islam also follows this practise, most muslims are killed by other muslims - their own tribe.

Religion is not inherently better, worship is part of the human psyche and manifests in countless twisted forms.

It's not about intelligence or how people believe, it's what they believe.

>>132932232
too many people doing pointless shit

>>132938449
That's the basis of science, you keep researching and you keep discovering new things.
When the Wright brothers flew the first plane, they thought humanity wouldn't be able to build a plane capable of crossing the Atlantic in at least a million years.
60 years later, the SR-71 was operational, a plane capable of flying around the planet in less than 2 hours.
With your mentality, we wouldn't even have had a plane in the first place.

>>132934830
a man lovingly stroking another man's ass

>>132939262
Why use the anarchist flag and post white nationalist qts?

>>132939342
I'm of the opinion that us humans are too stupid to comprehend reality and will always suffer cognitive dissonance because of our beliefs.

>>132939445
Ask yourself, and really fucking consider it:

Did we ever need them?

>>132939262
>People use science today to justify degeneracy
And those people are scum.
Science is the embodiment of humanity's curious nature.
It's only purpose should be learning and building a better world.

>>132932232
secular religious socialist egalitarian public policy counting the angels dancing on the heads of pins and a bunch of niggers killing each other in record numbers and then setting cities on fire when they get bored every few years.

it is terrifically draining on resources.

>>132939511
Please elaborate on that

>>132932232
Because its all bullshit. Star Trek is not real.

>>132932232
>What is holding Earth back?

Scarcity. Whenever you bring up a massive Space program proposal people immediately start crying about how the money can be put to better use. For the poor, the homeless, the children, the sick, etc etc.

I don't think we're getting off this planet without either A. post scarcity or B. Mega war.

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>>132936671
spoken like a true cuck or alien or cucked alien

>>132937285
Are you the pathetic faggot who wrote a slanderous review on amazon of this book?

>>132939542
They are pretty useful, yes.
And I wouldn't want to live in a world where life expectancy was 30 years.
Then again, if you want to follow your own rethoric, get rid of all the technology around you.
Not exploring, researching and improving is against human nature.

And you know what's funnier?
A lot of scientists who made incredibly breakthroughs, like Einstein, was Christian.
And in fact there's a lot of verses where it's referenced that the Earth is a ball and floats among the stars.
The Earth not being flat does not disprove the existence of God.

>>132939738
Which is funny because NASA's yearly budget is about 8 billion, while the US military's is 900 billion even though the biggest enemies of the US right now are a bunch of sandniggers with some rusty AK47s.

>>132939511
Which then leads to the simple question: historically what belief system created the greatest advances humanity has ever seen, what social bedrock created the most stable and prosperous society for everyone rather than a few?

There's only one answer in that number 1 spot

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>>132939342
Commies fist killed anyone who had more than 2 brain cells to rub together (University Professors, property/business owners, etc)... those people would understand that the kike system they were under isn't sustainable.
>it's what they believe
Absolutely. That's why, while Islam was somewhat civilized, they carried the torch of knowledge, while Europe was partaking in what's now called "The Dark Ages". Then they started fucking their cousins and everything went downhill from there.
I'm not defending Islam, just to be clear, I'm defending the normal human need for transcendence and meaning.

>>132939505
Personally, I see white nationalism as a stepping stone towards a fully free market society, where success is rewarded and the natural order is restored. Only whites can even conceive a system where the market rules all, therefore, I align much more with white nationalists than anyone else, but, at heart, I'm a Hoppean AnCap.

>>132939874
Christianity built a stable society that was further improved with technology, yet we have people claiming science is literally satan and that we should live in mudhuts like filthy savages like humanity did 2000 years ago.

>>132937566
Pakistan exists because Muslim Indians wouldn't stop murdering normal Indians.

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>>132940038
I addressed the fact that communism killed its own people, while Islam killed people who were considered outside their tribe.

>>132932232
>Stage 2 civ is space faring
that isn't how the kardashev scale works

>>132939631
A simple example full of personal bias would be comparing the crimes of a communist regime when confronted with facts that opposed their beliefs. They chose to kill people rather than admit their understanding of the world was flawed.

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>>132939804
When the fuck did you get the impression that following the words of the bible ever meant stopping human progression? You've never even opened a bible have you?

in b4
>oh uhm...uh excuse::::heavy breathing:: me i uh, am an expert on ::snorts mountain dew:: the fucking bible, sir.

>>132939804
>Which is funny because NASA's yearly budget is about 8 billion, while the US military's is 900 billion even though the biggest enemies of the US right now are a bunch of sandniggers with some rusty AK47s.


Money isn't used to kill sandniggers. Money is used to line pockets and gain access to easy resources.

Tons of resources in space. But it's all too hard to justify investment. Sure Musk and friends are trying to change minds on that. But no one is going to sink 4 trillion into maybe mining asteroids. When you can blackmail the Stans into one sided contracts.

>>132939902
Ancaps are fine by me but all the other (((anarchists))) need to burn

>>132934457
>Everything on that picture was done by a religious person.
Because of their religion or in spite of it?

People are not ready for the next industrial revolution. They must first condition us for the new world, where humanity's innate violence and biases are completely removed. With access to such advanced technology while being as hateful as we are, we would surely destroy ourselves

>>132932232
Kikes
Easier to keep people in line and plus it'll cost a lot of effort and materiel to get off this rock properly which to get would require everyone pooling resources and men.

>>132940209
You're technically right, but then again: reaching stage II would mean we're very likely to be space faring at that point.

>>132940271
You yourself asked me if planes ever brought something good, as if they were unnecesary.
It doesn't stop progress?
Then why would we ever stop at Earth?
And why would I choose between science and religion when a lot of people chose both?
Sure, the bible has everything written in it, but does the bible describe anything about particles?
About building planes?
About building computers?
No, 2000 years ago we didn't know anything about it, yet here we are now.
Because of science.
So yes, one day they might discover something smaller than an atom, and maybe something smaller than that, because we get better at learning.

>>132940256
Interesting do you think we could somehow use that fact to our advantage?

No such thing as space.

>>132939902
Your history is wrong, mongols sacked their inherited libraries and leveled their cities and they never recovered because the Islamic system demands total and complete subservience to Allah instead of nurturing knowledge and creativity.

Humans need for transcendacne and meaning is a very real need, but again there's only one belief system that utilizes that to transform the world for the better.

>>132939874
You can see why those who have differing belief systems attack White Christian civilization so savagely, it creates massive cognitive dissonance in their brains.

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>>132940580
Well no shit, a type II civilization means that civilization has fully harnessed the power of it's star with something like a Dyson sphere.

>>132932232
Islam and the Third World's problems.

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>>132940587
Your fedora's on too tight, mate. I'm finished arguing with you. Thanks for the lulz.

>>132932925
i know, just look at africa

>>132932232
Niggers

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>>132940368
>Muslim speaking about:
>humanity's innate violence
File that under "Hilarious shit", please.

You're a bunch of inbreeding goat fuckers. What makes you think you're a part of humanity's (it's really the white race's) stage?
Stop snorting glue, Mahmood. You're only alive because we have leaders that prefer shoving dragon dildos up their ass instead of using the military to exterminate the lower races. That's not sustainable and it wouldn't be reasonable to think that will go on indefinitely.

>>132940652
Well then, I was wrong. Islam has literally no redeeming feature.

>>132935332
Face it faggot you're an inferior race. Kill yourself and try to respawn as a white.

>>132940633
Sure but all Humans are subject to this flaw it isn't limited to one specific group, the best we can do is try and use science to determine what is true and what is false.

>>132933797
>North America and Europe will be sub 90 average IQ in this century
Better start learning Mandarin.

>>132940823
So you gave up?
Why?
If I was full fedora i'd say that God simply doesn't exist, when what i'm saying is that the Bible has never said anything about those things not existing, there's even references to how the Earth is a globe.

>>132934624
does being scientific require you to be atheist?

>>132940689
Tall poppy syndrome in action, unfortunately a lot of people are just like that no matter what
If we're so evil and terrible and unfair why is everyone attempting to escape their shitholes to come to the west?

>>132932232
dumb faggots don't know about the secret space programs

>>132933461
Because Capitalism outdoes Communism when the money goes to whoever makes the best tech.

>>132935694
>Only north and south America were worth colonizing

Strawman

>>132936355
>Aztecs
I think this commie is on to something. We should ritually sacrifice leftists to keep the sun gods happy.

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>>132941048
>Implying the borders will remain the same
I'd argue that whites will make a stand both in Europe and the US and will distance themselves from the third world... That's all they have to do.
Niggers and sand niggers can't survive in Europe. They don't have the intellect. Niggers, for example, literally don't understand the concept of "Sequence". They can't do agriculture or anything, for that matter.

>>132935697
imagine seeing this think just browsing youtube as a kid, because that's what the content is marketed for.