Should we brand people who torrent "THIEF" on their

No

We should brand "psychotic Satan worshipping pedophile" on the foreheads of Hillary Clinton and John Podesta

>>132863715
pls go back to t_d you faggot.

>>132863445
That tattoo is hilarious even though he should gas himself

>>132863445
>giving shekels to the media jew
not going to happen

>>132863445
I own the electrons, there's nothing immoral about arranging mine similar to some other existing arrangement. It's like building a house to look like your neighbors house.

>>132863445
YOU WOULDN'T DOWNLOAD A CAR!

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>>132864068
you know with 3d printers, thats not too far away...

>>132864027
it is still a crime dude. You're stealing something that belongs to someone else. And that someone else doesn't want to share it with the likes of you.

>>132864304
Borrowing a game from my friend isn't stealing.

>>132864027
How would you like it if you made a tv show, or a computer program/app, or you wrote a book or made a song or hell, you crafted a cool excel spreadsheet. All with the intention of selling it. And then once it started selling, some linux faggot decided to torrent it to the rest of the world?

That would suck man. That would mean you would lose all that money.

Also, fuck linux-open source people. You have to compensate/pay people for their hardwork.


However, I guess if you're poor, there should be a cheap option for your pay scale, I think.So that way you're not incentivized to steal people's stuff online.

>>132864510
I would love it, in fact I'm working on a game right now, when it's finished I plan on releasing it for free along side a optional paid version, both of which will be exactly the same in every way. I just want people to enjoy my work, not make money.

>>132864482
Not even borrowing, literally making a duplicate, your friend still keeps his game.

>>132864304
if i steal it, how is is still there?
checkmate
sage

if companies want me to buy their games again they should fuck offwith broken releases, dlc bs and especially BRING DEMOS BACK

>>132864510
I mean, does anybody east of Austria have enough money to afford a monthly membership of Adobe suite? I mean, the entire suite? Can most designers in Eastern Europe shell out $100 USD every month just to be able to rent software? I mean, given that situation, and the economic situation of most eeastern european countries, I can see why they'd want to steal the software, especially if they make a living off of it...

>>132864510
The only people mad about this is shitty liberals with their shitty art degrees.

>"My work that fucking sucks might get pirated, better throw a fit!"

>Steal candy bar from a store
>Deprive the store from being able to sell it
>Download a movie
>Simply making a copy whilst the movie company can still sell it

Where's the thievery?

>>132864673
US govt says its still stealing

>>132864778
Because you didn't compensate them for it...you didn't pay for a good that was meant to be paid for...a good that wasn't supposed to be free

>>132864779
The US government needs to read a dictionary then.

>>132864779
What is your point? I don't give a fuck what they think.

>>132864833
>supposed to be free

Sounds like the free market decided it was free.

>>132863445
No not theif. Maybe something like, "oldfag" or "retrofag" or something all by those lines. Because seriously if you're downloading anything in 2017, you're either 65 years old or a complete fag lord.

Streaming's where it's at.

>>132864833
Stealing intrinsically implies a loss of some kind, duplicating is not stealing, as nothing is lost.

>>132864868
us gvt laws related to ip are the golden standard.

plus most stuff that is pirated is from the us.

We're not fucking pirating stuff from china/india/brazil.

>>132863445
Not a crime. Victimless action is not a crime.

kill youself, corporativist shill

>>132863445

Torrenting is a popular way to freely distribute open source software.

>>132863445
too much law, we need to start branding jews

>>132864304
>You're stealing something that belongs to someone else.
Stealing implies the the owner loses physical property. Tormenting is, at worst, copying data

>>132865082
i fucking hate kaspersky. they fucking install tracking/hack software on american computers so that they then feed info to russian fsb

>>132863445
no because its not theft

>>132864510

If someone can recreate what you made that easily, you haven't thought through your business model very well.

Imagine for a moment that you invented the paperclip and sold them for 10 dollars each. Now someone comes along and starts producing them for 0.05 dollars a piece. Doesn't that tell you that you're doing something wrong? Without government intervention, quality products become MUCH cheaper.

downloading shit you would never have payed for anyway even if it wasn't available free

>you are depriving me of shekkles theif

>>132865144
what about stealing someone's idea? that's still t theft

I mean really maaan, you can't like own things man, things can only own yooooou maaan.

>>132865225

Exactly, piracy is used a scapegoat for bad sales. We're not bad at our jobs, it's those fucking pirates! MUH RUSSIA NARRATIVE

Seriously, fuck off. Make a product so good that people will want you to make more so badly they'll pay you for it.

>>132864304
I'm not taking anything. And besides, neither uploading nor downloading torrents is illegal in the US, only hosting the server with them on it is.

Also, 99.9% of the time, if I can't torrent something, I'm not going to buy it. They're not losing anything, not that they were in the first place since I'm not actually stealing anything.

>>132863445
This board already went anti-pedo, if you turn anti-torrent I'm leaving forever.

>>132865201
Kaspersky-lab is a lobbyist that makes spyware. So as any other antivirus that hasn't released its source code (and I don't know any of those who did that).

They actually proposed a law that will make all companies install Kaspersky antivirus to every computer that is coming to Russia. I'm not kidding.

Yes, pay for brainwashing that you might not even enjoy.

>>132863799
shillary lost,and women arent funny, get over it

>>132863445
I torrent only to strike back at (((them)))

>>132865403
omg...that would fucking. Cause you know:

Puting Controls FSB
FSB Controls Kaspersky
Kaspersky Controls Computer

Puting controls Computer

Everyone in russia would be more fucked than they are now....I feel sad for you Piotr. Come to america. We need more computer people.

>>132863445
Who the fuck is we? Do you have a mouse in your pocket?

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>>132864909
>>being this young

>>132863445
this is very funny tatoo

Hollywood shill.

>>132864510
This might shock you, but torrents of tv-shows actually act as advertisment, after tv-show gets torrented it has higher view rates.

>>132865068
>We're not fucking pirating stuff from china/india/brazil.
thats because those monkeys dont make anything worth attaining

>>132865526
I'll likely move in a year or two.

>>132864510
also, you seem to lack understanding what open source means.

hint - it doesnt mean forcibly opening source of programs like ms word

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>>132864909

>le streaming isn't downloading meme

if you're not streaming torrents you're a basic bitch by the way

>literally streaming from a single server

>>132863445
No. Stealing kikes shekels is a noble goal

>>132863445
If your "product" had no cost to produce then it must be free, only a jew would think in charging for a digital product, its like charging for air

>>132863445
>Be me some time ago, 16 yo
>Pirate the shit out of games
>Few years later, grow up
>Realise you behaved like a nigger
>Buy every single game you ever pirated
>Live a comfy, legal gaming life
>Torrent only old games that are not sold anymore

Most of these pirates are just kids unaware of the scale of their crime. We shouldn't brand them for life for that. We should make them pay for what they've downloaded

>>132864510
I'd be the one to put it be for torrent...

Unless you're some soulless corporate shitstain then you don't generally create something with the intention of sheckles, you create something with the intention of creating it so people can use it. You need sheckles to live but the original intention is still there, if it's available to be torrented I won't get 0 sales, or else video games would have died as an industry long ago.

>>132865225
>>132865303
these guys get it, if its quality art whatever the form it takes, even if ive downloaded it for free already i will buy a hard copy to ensure the makers are compensated, if its shit i download and dont like, nothing was lost on my end, i have a right not to waste my money on garbage

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>>132863715
>>132865501
These

>>132865901
A shekel for the good goy

Don't bump the bait

Article cited is shit
>Your avg news style "top ten" sensational rundown
>Points out that a far more serious statute comes into play when you do something relatively benign
>More greatly points out exactly how law contradicts humanity (not with muh feels, muh libertee but really pragmatically normal things that we could do if we were in fact 'free')

The article phrases statutory nonsense as "the way things have always been" and expects you to not call it out on it's bullshit.

>>132865927
also this, legit artists create because of the compulsion they have to create, they choose a medium and go, if its good they may make money at it, but if theyre true artists they'll still create regardless of the reception it gets

t. starving musician and fine with it

>>132864510
The main reason people pirate is because of greedy jew companies clambering to protect their dinosaur business model that milks the consumer for every shekel.

>iTunes store
>Netflix

Provide a better service than the pirates and people will happily pay for it.

>>132863445
>Complain about Jewish controlled media and entertainment
>Demand people spend money on Jewish media and entertainment instead of getting it through a torrent

>>132863445
Eat shit, corporate bootlicker

>>132863445
reddit spacing should be a captial offense

>>132866157
People that go in for the money fail.

>>132866047
>Paying for a products is for jews

i don't pay for any type of digital content since 2006. call me a nigger for all i care, i'm just jewing the jew

>>132866194
>>iTunes store
>>Netflix

Also steam.

Successful platforms for music, movie, television and gaming distribution because they make the product easily accessible, and allow the consumer to dictate their requirements.

>>132863445
When game companies stop charging bullshit prices for games, ill stop being a pirate.

>>132864779
They also say mentally handicapped men in dresses can be women

>>132863445
>thief
Pretty sure even piracy court cases don't call it stealing, they call it copyright infringement or something like that.

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>>132866454
lol this made me laugh for some reason

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>>132863445
Yes goy, gib more shekels

S a g e

>>132864257
>tfw we will all be driving around in 3D printed replicas of million £+ cars. For the cost of the printer and raw materials.

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Would /pol/ pirate phone calls if you were around in the 70s/80s or would you be too afraid of the party van?

>>132863445
i torrent every day bitch, stop making shit movies and games and i might buy them

>>132866417
He said good goy you illiterate fuck.

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>>132866711
>that blue box

holy shit the memories, some buddies and I in HS used to have one of these and we'd intercept customer support calls and fuck with people, ive never had so many laughs in my life

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>THIEVES

I WISH I COULD LOCK UP ALL YOU FUCKERS. FUCKING THIEVES.

>>132866454
If you aren't using several levels of IP masknig and stuff like that, rest assured that (((they))) are archiving all of your torrenting activities in a database somewhere, waiting for the opportunity in a change of laws where they can get everyone and sue them all. They're already doing it in Germanistan. If the wrong people get elected, it will become a thing in other places too.

>>132864304
I didnt know copying something without touching the original is stealing these days

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>>132864510

>be the nfl
>get local taxpayers to subsidize stadium renovations
>regionally black out broadcasts to those same people if the game doesn't sell out

>>132863445
>>132864510
>>132865109
>try to torrent open source, copyright free or public domain data
>(((isp))) blocks p2p because muh piracy muh bandwidth
GG blocking legitimate useful tools

>>132863445
I'm not going to pay like $20+ for a movie I might only watch once or $7+ to only be allowed to use a movie for a short period of time. Same thing with music, even ignoring torrents, why pay for music when there is so many free streaming services and websites like youtube out there? I haven't bought music in over 10 years. Games have skyrocketed in cost because of the DLC models used today and they have only gotten shittier not better. I don't play games anymore either way, but still I'd pirate those too if I wanted to game. Fuck off crypto Jew.

>>132864510
Id be happy there is such a great demand for my works and take it as flattery, hell id lower the price a bit so the people who pirated it might be enticed to buy and support my works

>>132863445
fuck off kike, were not paying for your shit. most of the shit i torrent i wouldnt pay for if i couldnt torrent it

>>132863445
fuck off kike

>>132863715
this

>>132866784
Paying for products is (you do it) for jews
Learn to understand context, dumb torrentfag

>>132863445
Torrenting has no significant impact on sales and profits of the torrented product.
If your product is getting torrented a lot that is a sign that you are overpricing it.

>>132863445
>copying 1s and 0s is theft
The opinions of tech illiterate brainlets does not matter

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>>132866930
you should research the NSA online archiving apparatus, EVERYTHING youve ever done online is logged regardless of proxies or attempts to cover tracks, you need some pretty serious level hardware and skills to be truly invisible online

>>132867135
doesnt having torrents increase sales since it gives people the ability to see if the experiance is worth paying first hand?

>>132867018
Honestly, what percentage of torrenting is open source stuff? I don't have a problem with torrenting, but be realistic! If your ISP is cucked, they are acting logically following those principles.

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>>132866454
ditto

>We will hang the capitalists with the rope that they sell us.
t. Lenin

>We will debase Western society with the content we sell them.
t. Hollyjew

My understanding is that by US law it's not technically theft.

You have to deprive the owner of the original.

You could say it's theft in terms of ethics and morals, but it's not legally theft.

>>132867095
Then you'd be saying "Paying for products helps jews" not "is for", "is for" means people who do it are jews.

>>132867262
since when has ethnics and morals been a part a law

>>132867180
>>132867180
>doesnt having torrents increase sales
not for shit content, in the old days devs would release game demos prior to game release, like a level or two to show what a gave or software was like, now they dont because more than a few titles failed because of their shit demo

>>132867334
Since the 1950s or so I'd say.

>>132867143
The NSA is one thing, but companies working for Hollywood studios trying to bust people for torrenting is a different story. Afaik, the latter is happening in Germoney. You'll probably never have to worry about the NSA, but you should worry about the private sector trying to get back at you for "stealing". I think they are potentially easier to trick, so an effort should be made. They don't have access to ISPs like the NSA.

>>132867384
thats the idea, bad business practicies get weeded out since people can experiance that shit up close and realize theyd be duped for a half ass game

>>132865225
>>132865303
This

>>132864510
>some linux faggot
are you THIS retarded?
>That would mean you would lose all that money.
The meme that torrenting are lost sales has been debunked for decades.

>fuck linux-open source people. You have to compensate/pay people for their hardwork.
IDIOT. OPEN SOURSE DEVELOPERS DO IT FOR FREE. NO ONE IS FORCED TO MAKE THEIR SOFTWARE OPEN SOURCE AND A LOT OF DEVELOPERS ARE PAID FOR THEIR WORK.


You fucking troll have no clue about how the world works, OPEN SOURCE DOES NOT MEAN FREE. THERE ARE COMPANIES LIVING OF FREE SOFTWARE.

>>132867472
>I think they are potentially easier to trick, so an effort should be made. They don't have access to ISPs like the NSA.
very true. it takes a pretty motivated network admin to track down a person, especially if you mask your ID, they are usually so busy with other IT shit its either never attempted or put on hold indefinitely

>>132867190
>If your isp is cucked
I'm American, ISPs are cucking the hell out of US

>>132864510
>That would mean you would lose all that money.
implying anyone who pirates stuff would otherwise buy it
its like you dont even have a brain

the most i ever got slapped with for torenting is a strongly worded email

>>132866923
YOU CAN ONLY BE A THIEVE IF YOU TAKE AWAY SOMETHING FROM SOMEONE.


MAKING A COPY IS NOT STEALING, LEARN ENGLISH.

I'm not paying £250 for fucking EU4. Fuck paradox.

>>132864510
>Also, fuck linux-open source people. You have to compensate/pay people for their hardwork.
the linux devs dont feel this way, their shit is open so the community can help improve it, in essence the users are providing the labor to make the OS good, in return they get a 100% customization free boss ass OS

if you can get past the learning curve linux in its various flavors is the best OS out there

>>132867896
But you're taking away their revenue, anon.

>>132863799
fuck off kike

>>132867903
>they never drop the price even though their games are old
>all DLC overpriced
>increased the price of all their products just as a massive sale goes on

>>132867384
instead every game is in beta and they say oh we will make it better and they barely do shit except balancing issues.
Demo is basically beta nowadays

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>>132863445

Just remember (((who))) you hurt most every time you pirate (((movies))), (((music))) or (((TV shows))).

>>132868006
You are not.

How can you lose money for something which I would have never bought anyway?

If I steal something from a shop, the shop lost something.
This is simply not the case with torrenting.

>>132868058
yeah beta is bullshit, using the userbase as QC without paying them then charging them for the full title, if you participate in beta you should get a free copy, some devs do this, but most dont

>>132863445
>Also, in the US, the average American commits 3 felonies a day.
You know that the system is there to fuck you over if that happens.

>>132868006
>taking away revenue from a company that didnt bother putting in the work for their product

>>132866930
mate, one of the members of our parliament (belonging to the socialist ruling party) asked on twitter of someone could provide him with a stream to watch a football game - that's how "strict" the piracy laws are in portugal. the only time they've acted was to close a tracker that was too obvious (the owner was taking a huge profit) and other spoon-feeding websites which allowed you to watch tv series already subbed.
ah, another thing: the ISPs were ordered by the state to block the piracy sites kek. but you know, if you use google's dns they can't prevent you from accessing those piracy sites :^) literally only a retard in portugal doesn't know how to go to piratebay and download whatever he wants.

>>132868815
*on twitter if someone

>>132868064
It's weird how I'm not even into any of those anymore, but I used to be. I genuinely prefer anime, free podcasts and liscence approved free music on YouTube. (((Their))) shit, (other than porn) isn't even worth torrenting anymore.

>>132868815
That's nice to read.

>>132868100
But if it wasn't for piracy you would have had to purchase that item to access the entertainment

>>132863445
Torrenting isn't illegal.

>>132869055
If I were willing to pay for it I would have bought it.

If I am not willing to pay and pirate something there is no sale lost.

>>132868046
Yeah I always thought that it was overall £120 or so but i just looked the other day and somehow the base price doubled. They're complete Jews.

>>132864510
I wrote a book, you know how much it made? Four dollars and twelve cents. It's not a great book, it might not even be a good book, but that is a significant lack of return on investment.

I would welcome it if people pirated it; hell I even considered dumping it on Piratebay just for the exposure. At least someone would maybe read it.

there's no moral precedent for stopping someone from doing something on grounds that someone else did it first

>>132866693
>it has all the 280HP but its only 50kgs

wew

>>132864510
All my games have been pirated to hell. There's a warm feeling when you've created something worth stealing. I don't care thought, as gay as it might sound I'm happy that I'm making other less fortunate people happen with my sequence of 1s and 0s

You're not some kind of greedy Jew are you?

>>132869233
it's legalized gangsterism. if your livelihood relies on IP protection, you should find a legitimate way to earn money.

>>132869383
Happy not happen

>>132869145
That is noble of you in some ways.
But if the media isn't worth you paying for it, why are you wasting your time pirating it?
Furthermore, there are a lot of people who pirate media out of principal, no matter how much they enjoy it.
If Anti-Piracy measures were enforced correctly this wouldn't be feasible, and instead would provide revenue for the content creators as 'pirates' would have no option other than to purchase the product.

>downloading intellectual property = theft

fuck off shekelstein, no one believes this.

Don't forget to sage kiddies.

>>132869383
>All my games
Lol

>>132863445
words have meaning
and the meaning of "theft" is not fit by any data transfer/copying/sharing

Hello, can you give me one (1) good (!) reason why I should pay money for something I can get easily and without a risk get for free?

>>132864304
again:
>>132869677
replace "theft" with "stealing"

>>132869435
>That is noble of you in some ways.
It literally is not.

>If Anti-Piracy measures were enforced correctly this wouldn't be feasible
Wrong. I will never again pay for an ebook with DRM, it is just so much worse then a pirated ebook.
Anti-piracy measures means fucking over your legitimate customers, in the hope that the pirates will not have their way, which then will happen anyway.

>>132863445
Firing squad for criminals is the cheapest.

>>132869202
what is the name of your book?

>>132864510
many fallacies
mainly appeal to emotion
but several others
try harder

>Also, fuck linux-open source people. You have to compensate/pay people for their hardwork.

are..... are you ok?

>>132864779
and?

>>132869383
>all my games

My sides.They hurt.

>>132869736
Because you want to support the person who made the product?

I bought physical copies of books I pirated / were free.

>>132869873
I would like for you to describe for me the difference between borrowing a game from a friend, and piracy.

>>132869878
>Because you want to support the person who made the product?
If I wanted that I wouldn't ask my question, anon.

>>132869796
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KGO4RKS It's stupid but I was unemployed for a long stretch last year so I figured I'd try and use the time constructively.

>>132869958
you give the game back if you borrow it.

>>132869965
but that is a legitimate reason to pay for something...

>>132869991
Looks pretty cool man.

>>132863445
Fuck off Hollywood shill. Don't start acting like a bitch now that you rode Hillarys dick and lost the election and no one wants to pay to see your shit movie. Did you seriously come to pol and expect sympathy because ppl out there torrent your unoriginal shit?

>>132869878

ok
so we now know of that reason being "good" to you

you have no assurance that it is necessarily considered as such by anyone else

>>132870020
So the friend I borrowed the game from has lost nothing?

>>132864661
Fuckin' agree 100%.
If I'm making a piece of art, if I think it speaks to people, and I want it to speak to the world, why would I put it behind a paywall? If anyone made a torrent of one of my stories I'd be complimented beyond belief.

>>132863445
Copying isn't stealing you retard.

>>132870035

legitimate? as determined by whom?

>>132870058
pls go awy fggt

>>132870020
Is it okay if I delete the game after I played though it?

I don't have infinite space so I would do that anyway...

>>132863445
If I can't get the satisfaction of LARPing as Blackbeard while watching game of thrones and seeing just how shitty no man's sky is, what's the fucking point in maintaining an internet connection?

>>132863445
Nope, torrenting is great fuck you OP.

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>>132863445
Im gonna go download 20 copies of each new movie this year just because of this thread. fucking shekel grabbing hooked nose kike

>>132870058
i raffed

>>132870020
yes but you may or may not retain the data or a copy of the disc(s)

>>132864510
>Also, fuck linux-open source people. You have to compensate/pay people for their hardwork.

It's sad how communism can ruin anything, ins't it?

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>>132864510
This so much
I'm a comic artist and motherfuckers keep pirating my shit and give me zero money.
Fuck piracy

>>132870156
1 copy per device is plenty

>>132870267

you accept piracy as an assured "given" when you release anything that can be 100% reduced to data

>Thieves. You belong in jail. 90% of you have never even created any digital product,yet legitimize stealing other people's hard work.

ok im tired and i need to go to sleep.

>>132870074
>you have no assurance that it is necessarily considered as such by anyone else
So what?

I don't spend the money to make the rest of the world happy, I spend it because I personally want to...

>>132870240
that has nothing to do with communism

yore employing the "poisoning the well" fallacy

>>132863445
We should brand Jews on their forehead. Fuck off kike.

>>132870375
>I don't spend the money to make the rest of the world happy, I spend it because I personally want to...

lets see... counting 3 "i"s there
you arent debating with yourself here, but others

>>132870240
Communism has LITERALLY NOTHING to do with open source operating systems.

FOSS and communism are fundamentally incompatible.

>>132870448
I think some guy had a idea like that. good one too!
It was a real solution to a problem the world had. honestly the only one, the final one.

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>>132863445
I'm seeding 50 torrents while I read this thread.

>>132870510

they are by no means mutually exclusive but merely have nothing to do with each other, it is a comparison of fish and bicycles

>>132870506
Are YOU retarded? I explained YOU MY reason why I am spending money on things I like.

In a discussion it is necessary that people explain why they think certain ways.

>>132870035
No, it isn't, since the product I'm getting for free already exists regardless of my support.

>>132870761
>No, it isn't
Speak for yourself.
>the product I'm getting for free already exists regardless of my support.
BUT potentially there could be more products made which you also like.

>>132870267
kill yourself maldraw

>>132870866
>Speak for yourself.
I am, which is why I(!) asked for a good reason why I(!) should do something, >>132869736 - it's not my fault you can't read, or think of one.

>BUT potentially there could be more products made which you also like.
That's dependant on factors that are completely outside of my control, like others paying for said product or the mood of the creator. That's not worth the risk especially since there's no guarantee that IF he'd produce anything new that I'd even enjoy it.

>>132870626
we already know they are yours because you stated them in support of your position

whereas he said give "me"(him) a good reason

a good reason for him, not (just) you

>>132869991
i would definitely read that book

>>132870761
thats a jewish way of thinking

>>132871102
>I(!) asked for a good reason why I(!)
And I gave you one.
That you personally disagree with that is not my problem I didn't know your position before I talked to you, how could I?

>>132870866
>BUT potentially there could be more products made which you also like.

crystal-ball.jpeg

and to quote P. Molyneux:
"yes absolutely, and wouldnt it be great if pink-purple unicorns came down from the sky and cured cancer? i mean wouldnt that just be amazing?"

>>132871466

>That you personally disagree with that is not my problem I didn't know your position before I talked to you, how could I?

youre not getting the point

>>132871454
And looking at how they're currently the most successful group around, why shouldn't I emulate them?

>>132863445
I think there's a big difference between torrenting in america, germany and my country.
Nobody here has the money for games, your parents dont wanna waste money on it, plus the government doesnt give a shit that we pirate stuff.
There's no laws against it.
Meanwhile in germany you just get sent a bill home if you download something.

>>132871396
And how exactly was I supposed to know what "a good reason for him" might be?
Am I clairvoyant or how else do you expect me to know the personal thoughts of some anon?

Thats why I(!) explained my(!) reasoning.

> in support of your position
What exactly might that be?

>>132871538
>youre not getting the point
You are not getting the point.

HE(!) asked for a reason. I(!) gave him my reason, HE(!) disagreed with it.

What exactly did I do wrong?

>>132863445
I Torrent everything whatcha gonnda do?

>>132871422
>>132870051

Thanks, I guess. Glad you liked it

>>132871563
because it destroys society, you could make a lot of money by selling everything you own but then what are you supposed to do?

>>132864510
>That would mean you would lose all that money.

Wrong, faggot. A torrent does not equal a lost sale.

>>132871599

>And how exactly was I supposed to know what "a good reason for him" might be?

youre not

>Am I clairvoyant or how else do you expect me to know the personal thoughts of some anon?

youre not bright

>Thats why I(!) explained my(!) reasoning.

all you explained was your evasion of the point

>What exactly might that be?

the same as or close to OP's (his side), as you have demonstrated

>>132871507
The financial popularity of a product is DIRECTLY related to the chance that a similar product is made.

>and to quote P. Molyneux:
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
Fuck of redit

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>>132870567
There was a suddenly spike of ainti pirate threads on /v/ in the last 2 or 3 months, now they are spilling here too, i wonder who could be behind this.

>>132871688

>HE(!) asked for a reason

his words stated that
but that was not his meaning, which you did not perceive

>I(!) gave him my reason,

not what he stated

>HE(!) disagreed with it.

that was written "between the lines" to begin with

>>132871793
>your evasion of the point
WHAT POINT
>the same as or close to OP's (his side), as you have demonstrated
>>132869145
>>132868100
>>132867896
Sure dude.

You still need to explain to me why it is wrong for me to pay for something I like...

>>132871774
>because it destroys society
I don't really care much about the shit that currently constitutes as "society", so how's that a negative for me? Oh no, hollywood jews won't be able to produce more flicks because I'm not giving them my money, the horror

>>132870267

Your comics suck, and you deserve nothing, you Malaysian faggot retard.

>>132871889
>his words stated that
>not what he stated
>between the lines

I am starting to think I am not the one who is mentally retarded here...

>>132869991
Bumping for this post

>>132871796

>The financial popularity of a product is DIRECTLY related to the chance that a similar product is made.

usually, not always

>HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

fallacious
besides, molyneux belongs to /pol/

>rddit

try seeing how many over there know of him

>>132872003
>usually,
Exactly.
>try seeing how many over there know of him
Only a redditor like you would know that...

>>132871095
dont project yourself like that dumbfuck nigger lover

>>132871968
you deserve to hang on a tree
make like a coon and get gassed nigger

>>132871991
lets try this another way
let me help
hint:
>>132869736

is on the surface a "request" for a reply

when a comprehension of his meaning shows it was actually a rebuttal of "any" possible reply

>>132863445
It's a good thing that I use direct downloads only then, and my EVERYTHING (apart from the OS) is pirated. So, what are you going to do to me, Mr,DigitalRightsManagement?

>>132869526
>no-one thinks file-sharing is theft
I do, which is why I've probably spent $12,000+ in the last 10 years on blurays/dvd/cd/digital purchases.

Do I like supporting the Jews? Of course not. But I am responsible for my own actions and I don't want to steal

>>132867018
Wait, your ISP blocks certain types of traffic? What kind of Orwellian shit-hole has burgerland become?

>>132872248
We should cut off the internet on all of eastern europe. Zero piracy next day guaranteed.

>>132872064

>Exactly.

yes, not always, exactly
not always.

>Only a redditor like you would know that...

oh sorry you are confused or mistakenly linked wrong post or thinking of another

OR perhaps having listened to 1/10 of his vids you would see he mention 4chan or POL dozens of times for every time he mentions rdt

>>132872245
>it was actually a rebuttal of "any" possible reply
But AS I DEMONSTRATED IT WAS NOT.

there are legitimate reasons to pay for something which you got for free.

>>132869677
>stealing files isn't stealing
Did the owner of the IP create it with the intention of giving it away free? No?

Did you pay for the product that is being offered for sale? No?

Did you take something against the owner's will? Yes.

Then you are a thief

>>132872471
>try seeing how many over there know of him
Implies that Molymeme is not popular on reddit.
BUT that is knowledge only a person who goes to reddit can have.

He is also cringe worthy to watch and barely more then a meme.

>>132864304
What if a billionaire Jew bought all the air and started making you pay monthly for a membership to breathe his air? Should people who breathe without paying have permanent tattoos placed on their heads as punishment?

>>132872476
>But AS I DEMONSTRATED IT WAS NOT.

at least not for you
again, his request was to give a good reason for HIM

>there are legitimate reasons to pay for something which you got for free.

again: subjective, thus only according to you and those who agree with you

>>132872517
>Did you take something against the owner's will? Yes

how do you justify this conclusion?

>>132872517
words have meaning
look up the meaning
then see that it does not fit that meaning
neither with theft

>>132872517
>Did the owner of the IP create it with the intention of giving it away free?
the "owner" of the IP attempted to make money off of giving away a product for free, and then intimidating people into paying, in the same way as a squeegee man at a street intersection. i urge you to go legit. people must agree to the payment BEFORE you do the labor.

>>132872648
already cleared up
read the whole post
or read it again
and possibly again
until it becomes clear

>>132872517

p.s.

>IP

theres your major malfunction....(s)
in fact, several of them right there alone

you know we are in the future when its considered being a thief to steal something that doesnt physically exist and without even technically taking it

>>132863445
Torrenting is not a theft you brainwashed American loser faggot.
What you probably mean is unauthorized copying (term pirating is created by Jewish media to equate file copying to murdering in looting on the seas).
And no, nobody loses anything with pirating, especially huge film/record companies.

>>132872887
LOL.

Read your own post, redditor.
The only meaningful thing you say is:
>OR perhaps having listened to 1/10 of his vids you would see he mention 4chan or POL dozens of times for every time he mentions rdt
You talk about HIM talking about websites, but that does NOT correlate in any way with how many times a thread about him is made on reddit.

>>132865901
Enjoy being docile for the rest of your life with your gaymes and paying for the priviledge.
>>132863849
This desu, though it's best not to consume any media poison at all. God forbid don't pay for more of this black propaganda to be produced.

>>132866891
Obligatory stories needed

>>132873105
i think its the fact they keep trying more and more convoluted DRM that is actually hurting their sales rather than piracy

>>132863445
Its over for media. The world has changed and it no longer holds the forms it used to. The law will have to change eventually to reflect that however at the moment people are trying to fight reality. Technology changes things certain careers go away and everyone understands. Something like media changes in nature because of technology and suddenly we try to force it into shape through law.

The genie is out of the bottle and it will only get worse in time as less experienced people die off. There are still models to make money but companies need to change. Streaming like Netflix has show you a possible model. No one wants to but your movie directly anymore though.

Cable is also dead walking.

>>132873195
i cant help if you dont understand
or cant understand

>>132864304
>stealing
Nope

>>132864510
>lose
You never had it to lose. Pretending you did is denying reality. The old models are dead.

>>132873222
Trips of truth confirm.
Piracy will always exist, even with heaviest DRM that can be implented.
What they actually do is screw over legitimate customers.
Let's look at the Netflix for example. It's users can't download a movie, they can't watch it on device of their choice, they can't transcode it if necessary, you can't share it with your friend, they are internet-dependent.
Pirates can do all things about and are not internet dependent.
Who wouldn't pirate when with pirating you get tons of "features" you aren't getting when watching legally.

>>132873105
"Oh man those CURSED PIRATES ARE STEELING OUR MONIES WE HAVE TO STOP THEM."
"What if we do everything possible to make our mediocre game as unfun to play as possible in an effort to stop pirates"
"BRILLIANT"
>procceeds to get cracked in a month making the pirates a better service than the publisher

>>132873374
Tell me, how are molymeme mentioning reddit and him getting posted in ANY WAY related.

Maybe if you would stop being a reditor you would get samrter?

>>132873446
literally the pirates are giving a better service than the publishers are. Capitalism at its best. bad business practices are losing their shekels to people who have a lot of free time and nothing better to do

>>132873472
>Tell me,

already did
you didnt get it

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I used to download shitloads of torrents when I was a teenager, no regrets. Then I stopped, not because I care about the endangered species but because the shows are a bunch of manipulative bullshit.

If anybody deserves to be branded it's you NEETs who sit around playing vidya games and watching (((TV shows))) instead of doing something with your lives.

Anyway, whose gonna stop me?

>>132873632
Stay mad redditor.
We both know you fucked up here.

The ONLY thing you said was that molymeme was mentioning 4chan more then reddit. That has NOTHING to do with people making threads about him there.

>>132873648
>Anyway, whose gonna stop me?
The government.

Depending on where you live of course...

>>132868017
you can't vote in our election red coat, go line up in a single file line to get shot at easier

>>132872437
You think we wouldn't find a way to siphon it from another contries? That has already been done before. The only way to stop this is to shut down the internet in it's entirety.
>cut off
But you are not supplying. Most of us are independent already.

>>132872389
Depends on the ISP you use. Luckily for me, I live in the sticks, so I use a small local ISP that doesn't do data caps and doesn't block shit. Only downside is somewhat slow and unstable speed.

>>132873899
but the internet is a series of tubes, its not a a big truck
>block tubes
>no interwebs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cZC67wXUTs

>>132863799
>muh t_d
Shut the fuck up you shill you've already overused it

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>you should be branded and put to gulag because you have a bunch of electrons on the hard drive you poses arranged in the same manner as someone else's bunch of electrons

>>132873785

>The ONLY thing you said was that molymeme was mentioning 4chan more then reddit.

that was only one post
ive made many
and several regarding your issue
read the rest
specifically this one contains your answer:
>>132872471
(hint: last line)

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>>132864510
>some linux faggot decided to torrent it to the rest of the world?
>some linux faggot
>mfw I'm suddenly some elite hacker

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>>132869991
Can you upload it to the pirate Bay?


Poorfag

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>>132863445
But how does one torrent a "THIEF" on ones forehead?

>>132874392
ok... *smirk*
not bad phrasing
quite well done.....
i like you

Make them pay for the cost of the media, at most.

>>132874402
>specifically this one contains your answer:
IT DOES NOT.
Also you should stop with the reddit spacing, it is too obvious.

>OR perhaps having listened to 1/10 of his vids you would see he mention 4chan or POL dozens of times for every time he mentions rdt
For the 4th time WHAT HAS THAT TO DO WITH YOU VISITING REDDIT TO SEE IF MOLYMEMES VIDEOS ARE POSTED THERE.
Do you even speak english? Are you a shizo?

You are just a redditor mad at getting caught.

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>>132873823
Get a vpn, it's a better use of your money than paying for (((media))). Though it's better to kick the habit of media consumption altogether.

>>132864983

This is true. If I torrent something I'm not going to buy it anyway so you're not losing money. But by torrenting it I might enjoy it and talk about it and tell someone else and then you could make money.

>>132864510
Free and open source stuff can be monetized.
See Red Hat for example. 100% open source and they are worth more than a billion dollars.
The fact that you wan't your shit monetized doesn't give you a right to spy on your customers or do some shady shit in the background.

>>132874586

>IT DOES NOT.

it does not..... contain any answer that you comprehend

that is only because you are irritated
which is useless
become un-irritated
and you will get it, easily

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>>132870267
Found the Malaysian retard.
Also, what's taking you so long to hang yourself?

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>>132874042

>>132869873
I make mobile games, I search for <mygamesname>.ipa I get endless result to download it for free. Most of it was from China though.

My creations have reached millions of people, yea I'm laughing too!

>>132874797
>it does not..... contain any answer
THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I SAID YOU FUCKING REDDITOR

And please STOP the reddit spacing, you redditor.

>>132874042
No connection to you =/= no internet
And also tubes are the highspeed option, not the only one. Aerial is a thing too.

>>132875236
Its not a big truck that you can simply crash into some frenchmen to get it to stop

>>132875229

>>it does not..... contain any answer

you said that, but that is not all i said

i said this:
it does not..... contain any answer.... that you comprehend

you omitted the last 3 words
on purpose
which is silly

-relax-

>>132875388
Then explain it to me.

If you are such a smart redditor you should be able to explain how you could have acquired the knowledge that molymeme does not get threads on reddit without you going to reddit.

>>132863445
Nope. Cruel and unusual - would violate the 8th Amendment. What kind of American are you?

>>132875601
>If you are such a smart redditor

i never claimed either attribute

>you should be able to explain how you could have acquired the knowledge that molymeme does not get threads on reddit without you going to reddit.

no one said none, no thread

but rather that there is a enormous disparity in popularity
its all here for your reading and illumination
>>132874402
>>132872471

try just being calm

>>132875688
I dare say not even 10% of Americans here respect their state and American values. But ironically the remaining 90% call themselves ''nationalists''. Once you take it as a sort of joke this board becomes nice.

>>132863445
>Also, in the US, the average American commits 3 felonies a day.

I doubt that. How did you calculate it? This sounds even worse than the retarded 'rape statistics' of the kingdom of Sweden.

Jews did 9/11 because of this.

>>132875910
>i never claimed either attribute
You are a redditor and claim to be smarter then me..

>no one said none, no thread
So you admit to being a redditor?

>but rather that there is a enormous disparity in popularity
>its all here for your reading and illumination
You still do NOT EXPLAIN WHY YOU ARE NOT A REDDITOR.


AND STOP WITH THE REDDIT SPACING.

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>>132863445
Ye brand those who wont pay 30€ a month to use some adobe programs.
Goyim must remember stealing from Jews makes you worse than Hitler

>>132875344
>what is an IP block hijack
And there are local servers all over this part of the world too. This is not year 1970 anymore. Get with the times. Even African shitholes can tap into the 'net if they know how.

>>132876269

>You are a redditor and claim to be smarter then me..

again, never claimed either

>So you admit to being a redditor?

the line was:
"no one said none, no thread"

>You still do NOT EXPLAIN WHY YOU ARE NOT A REDDITOR.

at least not in any manner that you have grasped
:(

>AND STOP WITH THE REDDIT SPACING.

it harms nothing
i find it useful
and the fact or assumption that it may or may not correspond to some or any formatting of any given website is incidental

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Copyright law is Jewish garbage and stifles creativity and competition.

>>132876648
indeed

>>132876530
>again, never claimed either
It is a fact that you are a reditor and you called me stupid...
>not in any manner that you have grasped

>it harms nothing
>i find it useful
Why did you bother replying when you just admit that you are a redditor?

>>132876648
Paying monthly for the right to use some program is the Jews invention.

STOP ALL THE DOWNLOADING

>>132870267
hahahahahahaha blames piracy for no profit....

sorry bud but your comix BLOWS

>>132863445
>Should we brand people who torrent "THIEF" on their foreheads?
Copyright infringement isn't theft.

Punishment is a classic case of treating symptoms and not causes, the cause of most crime is things like lack of empathy for others and socioeconomic stresses. The biggest cause for lack of empathy is mistreatment as children, same for a drop in IQ points which leads to less opportunities for well paid work in later life.

We'd stop far more crime if we did things like treat children well, the aggression and violence they still see, even in middle class western families is huge. If you want a nice society then you start by raising kids well. Stop hitting kids, stop the verbal aggression, and learn to negotiate with them and display empathy towards them.

>>132863445
This is a dumb concept. Most of this break the law without realizing it is just bureaucratic bullshit. We should eliminate laws where a victim can't be produced. You do drugs, fine. You don't take care of kids because of it, crime.

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>>132864510
>or hell, you crafted a cool excel spreadsheet. All with the intention of selling it.
>amerishart education

There is literally nothing wrong with torrenting. Digital media in an age of high speed global communications is essentially post scarcity. Digitial media copyright laws on and the draconian measures by which they are enforced are about the jewiest thing out and ya'll are just lapping it like good goys.
How can you complain about the leftist agenda in movies, games, and tv brainwashing people only in the next breath to cry "B-buh Mr.Goldstein and Disney NEED those sheckles to make Kill Whitey 2: The Electric Boogaloo!"

>>132872807
Complete and utter faggot.

Stealing is stealing, faggot.

You are a dirty thief, and I would hang you before I hang the jews who made it

>>132879087
By definition making a copy is NOT stealing.

>>132872517
>Did you take something against the owner's will? Yes.
Copying things isn't taking them.

The reason we have copyright law is specifically because theft law does not apply to copying information, you cannot prosecute people for theft if they do something like copy an mp3 from someone else.

Here's a simple cartoon that explains the concept in a way even a child can understand https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeTybKL1pM4

>>132872688
>Jews buy all the air
The air isn't for sale and the jews did not create air so it's a terrible analogy.

If humans needed air, and no air existed, and then a jew created air and put it up for sale....then yes you would be a thief. We night have more sympathy on you because it's air, and instead of hanging you would only serve a life sentence of hard labor

>>132864304
really, how difficult do you think it would be for say, MS or Adobe to make their shit pirateproof? MS dont do it as they quite enjoy being the most popular OS, just enough copy protection hassle to discourage completely casual piratery and make business owners think about the consequences - same with Adobe, they know fucking fine 'Photoshop' is a now a generic term because their shit is so widely pirated, they could prevent most or all in an instant.

>>132879293
>Copying someone's art is not stealing
U.S. IP law says you're wrong

>>132863715
FPBP

>>132863715
/thread

>>132879739
U.S IP law needs to read a fucking dictionary.

>>132879293
Go to an art show and copy their art. See how that works.

Share copies of their art for free...see how that goes.

You've seen the FBI warning 1000 times....even if you do not sell the stolen/copied IP you are guilty of crimes.

You fucking thieves are so intent on following Satan that you will come up with any retarded justification that satisfies your evil, faggot mind.

>>132880053
did you create the english language? if not, whom did you ask for permission to speak english?

>>132879987
>I don't agree with U.S. law so it isn't valid
Grow up you angsty teenage faggot. Or join antifa and get rekt

>>132880053
>See how that works.
nothing happens?
The art of thousands of artists gets posted everywhere on the internet, nothing has ever happened about that.

>>132863445
How much corporate dick do you have to suck to be an internet just warrior for them? Why do you care so much that people torrent?

>>132880160
>I steal but Im not a thief
Hell is hot.

God can't forgive you for sins you insist are not sins

>>132880348
*won't
God can, He just won't

>>132880220
It is not a matter of what I agree with, the definition itself is incorrect. it is not stealing, as stealing intrinsically implies a loss of some kind, likewise with theft. if there is no loss, there can be no theft

Food for thought, according to you. borrowing a game from a friend for a week is a federal crime. where are all the children in a maximum security penitentiary?

>>132880348
why can't you answer the question? why wouldn't you have to get permission to speak english? how is that not theft, by your definition?

>>132879678
Impossible. Even the most professionally made and invasive DRM on the planet has never stopped amateur cracking groups from cracking the software, purely as a hobby.

And building those DRM systems takes a lot of time and costs a lot of money, so it's not financially viable to do it unless the increased sales cover that expenditure. Especially difficult because you actually lose sales to legit customers when you make DRM too invasive.

It's not completely clear that preventing piracy makes businesses like Adobe worse off, many of the professionals who pay for the software to support their businesses started life pirating the software and learning on it. There's never been any decent studies done to suggest long term harm is done by piracy.

In fact there's many studies that suggest the exact opposite, that the people who pirate things like games and music on average spend a lot more on the media than non-pirates.

>>132879739
>U.S. IP law says you're wrong
Intellectual property is a branch of law that was invented SPECIFICALLY because you can't use existing law (theft) to prosecute copying. If US law acknowledged copying data as theft, then IP law would serve no purpose.

>>132863445
Be more precise and brand them "JUNKY WHO DIDN'T PAY HIS DEALER".

>Pirating mind drugs out of morbid curiosity is a crime
>Selling mind drugs isn't