Why is Russia such a big deal when their economy is smaller than

>>132770097
becuz canada likes it in the butt

Because they have nukes and were the sole provider of oil to much of Europe until recently.

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>>132770097

russia really isn't that big of a deal, it's just the big boogeyman with nukes

their economy is bad, their geolocation is bad, they have no significant allies, they don't trade much anything useful

>>132770097
>have nukes (more than any other country in the planet for that matter)
>have a big population
>have a quite strong and well equipped armed forces

That's why

If oil prices go up they would be bigger

>>132770097
Because the Jews got kicked out and they're mad about not yet having a global banking hegemony they can use to kick off the end times phophecies to summon Satan and destroy God forever.

>>132770097
Because they make a good public enemy so there is a justification to buy more weapons and guns, even if Russia couldn't even invade Lesoto.

because Russia invests that into the army and Canada invests that in dildos

>>132770296
>russia
>strong well-equiped armed forces

no lol

>>132770097
Because despite scarce resources, Russia always has an army of fatalistic serfs, who will happily work for the autokrator. So they have enough resources to build a big army, even if Ruskie are piss poor

>>132770097
>i don't understand value

Look at venezuela before oil price drop

>>132770216
This basically.

>>132770097
Theres something called 'efficiency'. It's not how much you have but how well you put it to use. American military spending vs other country ratios are not indicative of military capability ratios. The is huge waste in the military and over-pricing of weapons to make arms dealers rich. That is why you need to use your fuckin brain. You're not as safe as you think. Not to mention how much more ground the US military is spread over, which means a lower force density per square km.

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THAT'S WHY FAGGOT>>132770097

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>>132770097
All these buttmad nobodies in here.

Put a man in space without a russian rocket first, then we will talk.

>>132770097
SHOW YOUR HISTORY?

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>>132770097
> nominal
it's only useful for buying power of foreign goods and currency it has nothing to do with domestic consumption and production

>>132770097
because they have the ability to nuke the planet back into the stone age

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>>132770473
>>>r/The_Donald

Wrong board, fag.

>>132770097
>(((European Union)))

>>132770097
>Why is Russia such a big deal when their economy is smaller than Canada?
Largest nuclear weapons stockpile on earth. Larger by far than ours. Don't piss off the Russians.

>>132770447
Childish kek.

>>132770897
>finally, the mercy of death
Oh god Mr. Putin, just DO IT

>>132770097
Because you're a fag. That's why.

>>132770097
they got 150 million people

>>132770097
Sphere of influence.

They have Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan all firmly within their sphere.

On top of that you have Abkhazia and South Ossetia in Georgia who are loyal to Russia with separatist movements.

Then you have the Donbass and Crimea in Ukraine.
Transnistria in Moldova.
etc etc etc

On top of that they have staunch allies in Armenia, Iran, Syria's government and Lebanon.

They also have close ties to various African nations thanks to the cold war like Angola, Guinea Bissau and Congo.

Then you have the Cubans, the Venezuelans, the Bolivians.

Anyone that doesn't suck America's dick is on this "team" and it's being led by Russia.

China will shake things up though.
They're creating their own sphere of influence so there will be three teams in the world instead of two.

tl;dr: It's the friends they have, not their economy.

>>132770097
Cause GDP is a fantastic measure of relative national power. WW2 proved that right? Germany whooped the shit out of the Soviets and France put up quite a fight.

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literally this.

>>132770296
>have a quite strong and well equipped armed forces

No. They have tons of nukes and cheap exportable anti-aircraft missiles.

Other than that they are irrelevant.

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Because GDP is not a measure of national power? On a more reasonable basis of PPP, particularly after all the manipulation done in recent years to keep the US and Europe afloat, Russia comes 5th (taking out the EU since otherwise European countries are counted twice) and Italy is 11th. Whether you kids like it or not, Russia is the largest country on earth, has endless natural resources, no debt and a primary surplus. It will continue to be a major power for as long as we can foresee, having whipped the ass of European nations twice in recent history.

>>132770097
The European Union is a country? Lol, how poor are you that you have to gang together to be relevant?

>>132770912

Lol r/the_donald *loooves* Russia.

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>>132771390
Their friends are literally shit. OPs point remains valid.

>>132770097
>Our economy is stronger than Russia's
Now thats a surprise to me

>>132771392
Germany was the 2nd largest economy in the world during Weimar republic.

I think that after the annexations of Austria and Sudentenland it became the largest

>>132770097
Nuclear weapons.

Because the are head of the orthodox civilization--which is different than western civilization. And nukes. Samuel Huntington Clash of Civilzations is an academic read but one of the best. conservative thought about culturals mixing, civilizations and the implications for war. This is not b.s. Alt right lowgrade racism but a real analysis of what happens when radically different cultures e.g civilizations mix--spoiler alert history says that the cultural power of civilization will always result in war. One of the great anti globalist intellectuals.

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>>132770861
They use nominal because Americans can not stand when they are not #1

>>132770097
Because GDP is not a valid measure of national power.

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>>132770097
Unsourced data works best when the base are clueless.
Blocking regime changes and world war is breaking US balls bigtime.
Faggots in their bogus reality sink into the quicksand with no possible escape.
It is but to laugh.

>>132770197
Accurate

>>132770097
Because brutal force always wins against the money. And if the money even buys its own brutal force they just create another brutal force.
And the west now is quickly losing their force. The money can't save you from replacing.

>>132770861
>>132771506
>>132772315
Just because people in shit countries buy their shit quality food at shit prices does not make their economy bigger.

>>132773018
The lie here is Russia's share of world GDP (and geopolitical influence) is actually growing while yours is shrinking.
Or maybe you're just pulling my chain.. fucking Canuck.

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>>132773370
Remember if your a Canuck your a cuck

Trump had a good meeting with Putin. They might have accomplished something. Sad to say but how butt hurt will the left be to see a reduction in globalist hostility. And to the lefties--when did Russia become your enemy? For all the criticisms of the left I have --war mongering wasn't one of them. What did Hillary do to you?

It's called recovering from 60 years of communism, leaf. BTW, why are Islamic nations not as successful as Western nations, and if it has anything to do with their populations, is it then a good idea to import so many of them to Canada?

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thats why

>>132770097
I am disappointed leaf. you didn't posted PPP.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)

>>132770097
They are a "big deal" because they are a super power (really a "near" super power) while you remain, as always, the Eternal Leaf. I saw your Navy parked in the Bahamas. Real hot spot action there, impressive.

>>132770097
Because youre using US dollars. The World Bank uses the Purchasing Power Parity Index which makes China the world's largest economy and Russia number 6.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)

Why does it list the European Union then go on to list the countries in the union? Or am I missing something.

becaues they have an inflated ego just like all the other irrelevant slavic countries.


prepare for MUH COMMUNISM excuses and so on

when the reality is simply that they are incapable of competing because they lack actual brain power

>>132776038
I don't know that that metric is all that much better. Think about what it means to be poor in the US compared to what it means to be poor in China or Russia.

Think about what it means to be poor in like fucking Sweden.

Relatively small economy, but 97.89% of the economy is comprised of making weapons and fielding an army

Like China's defence budget is say $200 million compared to America's $650 billion.

But a dollar buys a lot more in China than it does in America, and they make all their own stuff.

>>132776458
Leaf scum, on the PPP index used by the World Bank, Russia's economy is a lot bigger than yours.

>>132770238
>Russia the big boogeyman with nukes
Fuck i thought only brainwashed children believed this narrative

>>132776366
irrelevant.

we are simply talking about the real size of economies taking currency differences into account.

>>132770393
>Because the Jews
This.
/thread

>>132776662
You can't disregard that though. Even though the US could pretty much erase Russia if it came down to going all out with secret weapons projects, it's not like Russia wouldn't be able to fuck up the US in return before it's over.

What does that really mean? Technically, that MAD is still in effect as a last resort. Similar to why nobody is just going to glass the middle east because of what would happen if Israel and Iran both chimped out.

So in practical terms, that's not really what makes Russia such a major geopolitical player, it's childish to think that it's an irrelevant boogeyman.

>>132776478
I'm not OP.

My statement still stands

They have a relatively small economy - but the arms industry is a big thing for them.

Now stop being a pompous jackass and go brush your teeth fucking chav.

I'm not OP.

My statement still stands

They have a relatively small economy - but the arms industry is a big thing for them.

Now stop being a pompous jackass and go brush your teeth fucking chav.

>>132770393
This. It's all about kicking the big bad white nationalist boogeyman while he's down. Jews have always hated Russia. Despite having a smaller economy than Canada they're still scared shitless of Russia.

The Jew fears the Cossack

>>132776806
Size of the economy is not the only factor for all the various vectors of force projection. It's an extremely relevant factor and why the US has had such a hard-on for using economic vectors to fight with Russia the past century at least.

But that's always only ever been one component.

Fuck you leaf cuck

>>132770097
a large portion of the russian econ is under the table black market shit, it's probably twice the official amount...

Russia may have a smaller economy but it has very little debt. Western nations are swimming in debt

>>132777596
This is also true. Those with less debt can't be controlled as easily.

>>132770097
Army
Tradition
History
Art
Culture
No degeneracy
No gays
Not cucks

Need I go on cuck?

>is smaller than Canada

Let me shock you even more. It's smaller than California's economy.

>>132774113

Completely unnecessary. Any Canadian would call you whatever you want if you asked politely. And this law doesn't change that. You can't be charged if it was a matter of ignorance. It only applies to willful and brutal usage of incorrect pronounering.

Because they are a huge resource-rich country with a powerful military and a stable regime and not a US vassal or "ally".
Also as people above said, direct comparison is idiotic, PPP is what really matters.
Russia right now faces no existential threats. Several Western nations do.

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>>132778014
California has more people than Canada.

The main threat to the USA right now is china. As the US is declining mainly due to obama china was increasing and developing. Also i think the argument for russia recovering from communism is a bad point because china was also recovering from communism and not only that they participated in the korean war. Yet they are still doing better than russia. The USA should focus on finding a way of indirectly weakening china. Russia is still a pretty powerful country as it has the most nukes and has a large sphere of influence.

Russia is just a major power right next to the EU, the eastern European nations rightfully fear it and it makes a useful boogeyman for the western European nations.

Well, OP. Right now, Russia is by far the largest state on earth (area). It is also the only still existing empire. All european colony powers cucked out and gave independence to their colonies. Russia still has everything left (Siberia).

Also, Russia is the only major country since WWII and the Korea war that has actually successfully invaded, grown and annexed new territory (Crimea + almost parts of eastern Ukraine)

How about that?

>>132778072

Nah... I think some people are going to balk at calling a fat hairy man 'her' or even 'zir'

I'll never work for my government in any capacity.

Any woman with really large hands and an Adam's apple comes around I'm going to scoot away quickly. But I already did that anyhow.

Reminder: Russia is the only white nation with over 100 million whites that is still ruled by white men (not women, jews, poopoos, niggers or chinks)

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>>132771506

>It will continue to be a major power for as long as we can foresee, having whipped the ass of European nations twice in recent history.

And yet Europe looks like pic related.
Tell me, how do you square your delusions of grandeur with reality?

>>132779401

lol. Good stuff.

What the fuck?
How is that even possible?

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this could be the reason

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>>132773370

>The lie here is Russia's share of world GDP (and geopolitical influence) is actually growing while yours is shrinking.

Did Dmitri Kisseljov tell you that?

>>132779191
>only major country that has successfully invaded, grown and annexed new territory

jew forgot one

>>132770097
7000 nuclear warheads

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>>132779191

>Also, Russia is the only major country since WWII and the Korea war that has actually successfully invaded, grown and annexed new territory (Crimea + almost parts of eastern Ukraine)

True.
But territory is the only thing that has grown in Russia since 2014. (pic related)

>>132779955
>Major country

Russia is several 100 times larger than Israel. Even Crimea is larger than Israel

>>132779529
Expansion before the inevitable fall.

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>>132770097
I wonder why Canada have higher GDP, but they dont have space program, their army is worse than army of Poland, they have literally no international geopolitical influence.
But hey, their GDP is higher.

>>132770097
Because they have more men than Canadians have bullets.

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>>132780333
this xD
Russia have strong and cheap army
a lot of cultural and art influence in the region
great long history
biggest teritory
natural resources
people which are ready to suffer war difficulties and have no fear

And Canadians are basiclly rich liberal cucks xD ready to cry
You cant buy courage and dignity

>>132770097
Because they are fighting for other interests and have the military strength to do so.

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>>132780679

>Expansion before the inevitable fall.

That's more of a Russian thing.

>muh economy
That's why no one listens to americans

>>132781196
I'll say it again, Russia faces no existential threats, while several Western states do.
Now and near future don't matter that much. Furthermore Russia is the only white country with rising birth rates (of native population).
It's amazing how idiotic you people are, I told you in 2014 and I'll tell you in 2024, this Russia, which isn't encumbered with a terribly inefficient regime like in past is in a very strong position for future.
And that's why there's so much Russophobia going on right now. But their failure is highly probable, West is on decline.

>>132780797
Because they give everyone free healthcare and it's expensive to live near any nice city.

>>132781011
courage and dignity can't buy food and bullets

it'll be real fun to see what happens as alternate energy keeps depressing the value of Russia's natural resources. Maybe they can build more coal powered aircraft carriers

>>132770097
They have nukes.

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>economylets

>>132770473
>>132771476
Honestly you guys fell for the memes. Russia does have a significant and impressive military. Comparable to the US overall? No way. But even NATO runs war game scenarios where they lose to the Russian military. Look it up.

Also Russian fast deploy forces are must more effective than any other countries, however that is only but a small part of a countries overall military strength.

I get you kids think everything is a dick measuring contest, but try to back it up next time. You guys are completely busted wrong.

t.military analyst 12 years

>>132781837
That's far in the future and in any case they are so resource-rich they can respond to anything really.
Dude, your country is right now 62% white, few percents more if you add Hispanics (though I saw what you count as "white" Hispanics). Demographics are destiny.

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>>132770221
This is the worst anti-leaf meme I've ever seen. Please get your shit together, in fact I'll throw in one free meme for your collection.

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>>132770097
>Why is Russia such a big deal


Because they have the most advanced nukes,and military gear that is in many areas on pair with western and in others even superior.

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>>132781642

>I'll say it again, Russia faces no existential threats, while several Western states do.
What "existential threats" do western states face?

>Furthermore Russia is the only white country with rising birth rates (of native population).
Births have actually been declining again since 2016. (pic related)
Also:
>Russia
>"White"
Pick one.

>Russia, which isn't encumbered with a terribly inefficient regime like in past is in a very strong position for future.
You can't be serious. Please tell me you're joking.

This is when you realized GDP measurement is mostly bullshit. Most of the west's GDP comes from (((services))).

>>132781992
Every NATO military that's not American is a joke in terms of scale and capability compared to Russian military. They can't realistically be compared.
You're comparing country (and this is just one detail) which has brigades of tactical ballistic missiles and countries where most of air-force is not functional (Germany).

>>132770097
Hello my simple minded leafy friend.

Think of it like this:
Are you more afraid of a tall skinny man wearing a coat that makes him look big, or a short midget holding an AK-47 riding in a T-14?

Theres no way russias economy is smaller than brazil. That makes no sense

>>132778939
Spot on. Problem is you're thinking like a sane person with the interests of the US in mind.

You're not thinking like an insane anti-US globalist.

>>132781196
>Using GDP per capita as a valid metric

Lad...

>>132770473
If Russia is so weak, then what is stopping the US to take it over?

>>132781011
>13k airplanes
...why

>>132782981
Same thing that stops everybody else from taking it over. How many times has occupying Russia worked?

I guess the Bolsheviks did it, and that blew up in their faces.

Do we count the invasion of the Kievian Rus'?

>>132782981
Presumably the same thing that stops them from just wandering up here and taking over leafland, to wage war you need the population's support.

>>132782466
Of course I'm not joking, Russian regime has it's faults but it's far more effective and sustainable than their past regimes.
>what existential problems
America is already 62% white.
Germany, France and UK will have Muslim minorities form 20-30% of their population in two-three decades.
And this is just top of the iceberg.
You'll see some serious shit by then.
Russia is in a very good position. Just look how arrogant you people are, that's a sure sign of a decaying society.

>>132782981
Mexico is so weak, filled with dangerous cartels and right next door but the US doesn't take it over does it?

>>132782466
Dude just fuck off already. Even I'm American and can admit we're in a bad position. You're making it painfully obvious you're just butthurt shill.

>>132783181
Mate, our muslim minority is already 20% and growing.

We're facing the same threats that western world is facing. Our leaders are sovietcucks who push all this bullshit about friendship between nationalities.

And our millenials are basically american millenials, and as soon as they come into power instead of the current regime they will fuck everything up.

>>132783324
They are afraid of the spooky cartels obviouly

>>132770737
This. Also US military strategy is 'bragging' and showing their power. China and Russia are hiding what they might have, and that's what is scaring the shit out of everyone.

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>>132783664
lmao back to sosach nasralny bot

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>>132784690
some more

>>132770097
because canada's army is weaker than russian girl's scouts divisions

>Have Nukes
>Large population by the standards of a European country
>Borders numerous Eastern European and Baltic states scared of getting absorbed again
>Frightening to Burgers and Euros after centuries of Russian chimpouts and decades of Soviet atrocities.

All of this kind of nullifies their pathetic economy and Soviet Era military.

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>>132785135
MURICA FUCK YEAR

>>132770197
Absolutely

>>132771390
Only three of those countries recognise Russia's occupation of Crimea.

>>132773018
>does not make their economy bigger.

it does.

Nominal comparison distorts real gdp by relative trade competitiveness and capital flows and etc.

It's like, you have two identical countries, but one makes more attractive shoes for export, so it's currency is stronger.

>>132784690
You only proved my point, leftie.

>>132771506
If the top 1% of (often Jewish) oil oligarchs decided to pack up and leave, not even half of Russia's already pitiful exonomty would be left.

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>>132783181

>Of course I'm not joking, Russian regime has it's faults but it's far more effective and sustainable than their past regimes.
Dutch disease is not sustainable. And neither is kleptocracy.

>Germany, France and UK will have Muslim minorities form 20-30% of their population in two-three decades.
Where do you get this numbers from Your ass?
In the real world Russia already has the biggest muslim population in Europe. And it will have the most muslims in the future too.

>>132770238

They are most resource rich nation on the planet by far and their ICBM systems are unstoppable.

>>132770097
because in 50 years Russia won't be a smouldering pile of rubble and refugee rape.

>>132780230
That's absolutely laughable. They're 10% above Communist levels.

>>132786103
what point retard, you've pulled outlandish nonsense out of your ass and got instantly called out on it. proceed spinning roulettes and drinking piss with your fellow brethren at 2ch

>>132781992
>Also Russian fast deploy forces are must more effective than any other countries

Their force projection is absolutely shit compared to the US, if war started near the Korean border for example or on those islands they took from Japan I guarantee you a Navy carrier will be there bombarding the coast before Russians can even start their tanks

>>132786868
>doesn know how to read graps

Sad, leftist used to be smart

>>132770097
Dumb leaf. Money doesn't mean global power.

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>>132770473
jealous nigger mud

Any economists here?
Why does GDP matter? I thought only GDP per capita showed something useful.

>>132770097
because they are the only soverign country in europe. the onlyones that can do stuff without washington permition

>>132787397
It's one of those things bankers, economists, politicians, and media jews to justify whatever it is they want you to believe or put up with.

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>>132770197
Ironic

>>132770097
get in a war, conventional or nuclear, and find out.

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>>132783324
Quite the opposite - we're allowing Mexico to take us over via mathematically-certain demographic replacement.

>>132782188
check'd but its not anti-leaf, its just making fun of trudeau and bieber and implying that real Canadians eat things raw, or tire sur de la neige.

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>>132770097
CANADA IS STRONK

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>>132788307
Thats water, and we own it.

>>132788710
I seem to recall that Putin laid claim to it.

>>132770097
because they have nuckes and win wars with green painted trucks with somthing random on top of them

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>>132788939
We must have not heard, I dont think we have a can on string in operation.

>>132786808
Most sanctioned country in existence next to North Korea and surrounded by multinational organizations like the EU you dumb krautneger

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>>132770097
because enough stored nukes to eliminate you and your tree patch ~3000 times over

>>132786382

the oil remains in russia though you faggot lol
so just another one will take over.

>>132784487
>implying China and Russia would not show off their stuff if they had something to show.

>>132783664
Are you actually implying that your Muslims are the same ones raping white lolis in Europe?

Because the last time I checked a lot of them were of the whiter moderate type.

>>132770097
Because even despite the GDP difference Russia can invade Canada and wipe them out in the space of 5 hours?

>>132770097
Russia's economy is actually much bigger than these liberal and cuck lists show. They're actually above Germany in the top four. The GDP calculation is deliberately deceiving against them. The "worse than Italy meme" is just that. A meme.