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Why is common core a thing?

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Why is common core a thing?
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So they can bring everyone down to lowest common denominator.
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>>132650639
Can someone give me a quick tldr on the common core?
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So when my son first brought this shit home it blew my fucking mind. But after working on it with him I've realized it's about critical thinking and/or thinking out of the box.
> here are two numbers 8 and 5 [8+5]=13
> make an equation that includes a 10
> [(8+2=10)+3]=13
Yeah, it's confusing but our word problems back in the weren't much different. Just phrased much easier..
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>>132651222
8+5=(8+2)+(5-2)=10+3

Get it?
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Where's that video about the jew that specifically says it common core was made was to lower the white males' privilege?
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>>132651222
Niggers cannot achieve scores anywhere near humans on most standardized testing. Common core was brought in to bring everyone down to their level. All to protect feelings.
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>>132651570
That's just over complicating things. Fucking ridiculous.
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'take 2 from 5 and add it to 8'
'8+2=10'

These statements seem completely unrelated...
What the fuck is wrong with these braindead teachers?
Maths is not subjective FFS.


People need to die.
For plato.
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>>132651570
>>132650639
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>>132651567

It sounds like wording is the problem with that particular question. So what they're asking for isn't to arrive at the answer 10, but to show steps including the number 10 as one of them?

I don't understand the practical use for that sort of question or wording, either. Why tell them precisely how to solve every little aspect of the problem? Many kids won't need to fuck around with steps doing 8+5, you just put the fucking numbers together jesus christ
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>a thing
it's a thing like stupid speech patterns are a thing
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>>132651222
We can't make niggers smarter so let's make everyone niggers.
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>>132651859
agree with this anon, and the point of the problem is to get kids to understand what it means to write an expression in a particular "form". simple example would be like every even number can be written of the form 2k, where it doesn't really matter what k is

it is good for math-specific fluency, possibly arguable if there has any other greater point to it
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Common core was a mistake
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To help kids who's parents don't teach them Mathematics at home

protip: this is most kids... not the type of kids who grow up to shitpost on /pol/, like most of us who learned math at home.
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>>132650639
so liberals can dumb down kids to their own level of intelligence
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>>132650639
trying to understand this gave me brain autism, what the fuck ameritards
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>>132651567
>thinking out of the box
It's arithmetic. Arithmetic IS the box.
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>>132652280
that's clever I like
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>>132650639
/Pol/ what do you think about teaching children with shit like Euclid's Elements or Archimedes?

When I was beginin my school in public school, I was raised with these, in duality with my homeschooling, not only was I taught the material, but I was taught how the material came to be and by whom.
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>>132651567
So they're looking at how to come to a specific answer given results that don't indicate that answer...Yes this won't cause problems in statistics or anything.

SO this is just re-branded algebra of 'fill in the box to complete the equation'
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>>132651570
I get it, but that's dumb. Why not just teach kids 8+5=13? Why do they have to make 10 in any part of that equation? Hell, they could do it with their hand. I start at 8 then count fingers. 9, 10, 11, 12, 13! No reason, AT ALL, to stop at 10. Just pass right over it. Why overcomplicate it. Math works because it doesn't have nonsense. If you follow the correct mathmatical rules, you WILL get the right answer. Even when you start taking derivatives in 3 dimensional coordinates, as long as you follow the rules, you will get the answer, not a random 10 in the middle of the equation because someone said so. Fuck common core. Keep it simple stupid!

Fuck I'm mad. Homeschool is looking more and more right for my little one.
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>>132650639
We are going to get steamrolled by China so badly this century.
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>>132650639
It's literally to give blacks a chance.

You seem to be forgetting Obongo, like any black dictator, is a dumb racist commie. The only way to bring the impoverished class up (in this case, the black race) is to bring the upper classes down.
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>>132650639
Central planning is evil. Common core comes from central planners, and is evil.

A retarded populace is easier to dominate and exploit than an educated populace.
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>>132651222
Common core teaches you how smart people do math in their heads after they've learned how to do it, but the end result is the learner doesn't ever learn how to do the basic core concept.
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>>132651859
The point of CC is to eliminate memorization of times tables and equations and supplement them with "critical thinking". By doing this they also have to make all the questions easier though.

I'm still getting him to memorize his tables though.
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>>132650639
What? Can't you just do that in one step not 3 it's the most basic thing in maths and the first thing you are taught. why do you have to make it more complex? it makes the kid dumber by just doing it
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>>132652563
Diversity and inclusion of all numbers senpai
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>>132650639
Please give me more of this.
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>>132650639
You know those kids who should be in special ed? The one who have parents that bitch enough to keep them in normal classes? The ones who insist little Steve is an angel and doesn't need extra help like those stinky retarded kids? Yeah, common core exists so that little Steve becomes the norm.
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>>132650639
Take a look at number 6
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>>132650639
What the fuck, I'd knock the math teacher out if that shit was pulled on my son
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>>132652387
That's racist Anon.
>>132652433
Exactly. Back in the day
> (8+x)+y=13
Would be the likely question.
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>>132650639
Someone with PhD finally got revenge on someone he hates that beat him relentlessly throughout his life and can finally get revenge by making his rival's kids retarded in math.
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>>132652416
> I was taught how the material came to be and by whom.

That would have helped me a lot. Rote learning is for chinks and poo in the loos.
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>>132651570
It makes sense to do it mentally, but forcing kids to write it out as part of a test is dumb as shit.
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>>132652572
Easier to tear someone down than build yourself up
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>>132653105
i'd literally murder the phd nigger who did this to me the son
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>>132652109

That's a good point, friendo. But it makes me wonder if the teachers as a whole are fluent enough in math/charismatic enough to convince a child that these concepts are important enough to internalize.
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>>132652416
Learning Visual Multiplication took my from a C to A+ student in high School. Teachers thought it was some voodoo shit back in the early 90s though.
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Behold the mathpill.
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>>132652680
This is a PERFECT analogy!
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>>132651567
>>132652970
It's not. The disconnect between this trash and college arithmetic is so vast, these kids are going to be helpless in higher education. Fill in the blank boxes. Do you see the issue? Pro-tip: Variables are racist and are a fact of life.

For the record, the quoted poster is a Brockpuppet shilling for CC. Add his style to your dossiers, Anons. Filter Brockpuppet posts and disregard Brockpuppet posters.
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>>132653297
Pic related, his name is jason zimba
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>>132650639
Teaching kids math by using fucking riddles?
How many times can you subtract 1 from 10?
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>>132650639
K-12 was implemented to enslave the plebs, dumb them down, and keep them down. It's so the status quo doesn't get interrupted by intelligent upstarts. Camouflaged modern slavery. Teaches the plebs to police and peck at each other like crabs in basket.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeEWPbTad_Q Quick rundown of the function of American public school

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr-aEtJVVdk Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt served as the head of policy at the Department of Education during the first administration of Ronald Reagan. Exclusive interview with Iserbyt breaks down how conditioning/training under a corporate agenda has replaced traditional education, leading to a deliberate dumbing down of Americans. Iserbyt further explains how Reagan signed agreements merging the U.S. and Soviet systems under the United Nations banner, turning over education and many other areas of public policy to global control.
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>>132653801
As many times as I like, time permitting!
10 - 1 = 9, 10 - 1 = 9, 10 - 1 = 9...

Now you give me a gold star for thinking outside of the box.
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>>132650639
switch to base thirteen. 8 + 5 = 10
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>>132653111
Trips speak true.

It does help. Thinking critically and visually imaging it's process make it easier to comprehend.

My Uncle is the one who tutored me. He was probably autistic but he was a history Professor and armature mathematician. He wasn't allowed by my parents to actually take me from school. But he still taught me.

He would lecture me on alot of historical perspectives, and all my math and basic principles were hands on. Small engineering challenges kinda, I dunno I could elaborate on him if needed.

>>132653590
Everything for those who apply themselves. Seek higher learning and elevate yourself.
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>>132651667
Not just niggers. Spice can't be bothered to read or do basic math. That is why they are such shit contractors, they don't measure anything. The just cut materials until they think it will fit somehow. This is why the mcmansion everybody bought before 2008 are complete garbage. A million dollar house assembled by a guy who cannot count to 50 in English.

They want us dumb and whites just won't be dumb. This is why we must rise up.
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>>132652563

Because treating numbers as components is the basis for speed math (44X6 = 40*6 + 4*6 = 240+24 = 264) as well as thinking of math as a system instead of rout formula.
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You can get 10 from 8 + 5 by getting 13 and then having a nigger steal 3, then you have 10.
Fixed it.
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>>132652919
That really gets the noggin joggin.
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>>132653708
Plz no bully. Just explaining the way I see it. My son is forced to know this shit and so I've learned it as well. Better than just sticking fingers in my ears and yelling about how hard it is cuz I'm fun.

Yes it's fucking retarded.
Hell yeah I can wait for DeVose to scrap it.
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>>132650639
To make people accepting of whatever bullshit they're told by state authority figures at a young age I gather. It is 2+2=5, make sure the goys unable to use basic reasoning and alter how they think about everything from the earliest part of their lives.
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>>132654088
Touche!
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>>132652416
If we wanted kids to actually learn, yeah of course. But we don't. We want burger flippers and debt slaves.

If you teach them math when they are young and they learn it, they would never get in over their heads in loans.
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>>132650639
This.
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>>132651567
the child is correct- numbers are absolute and the question asked as not asked properly at all- there is not real question of another variable involved - almost nonsense like -
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>>132651222
They're trying to teach math done in your head, but done on paper. It's a good idea in concept, but has had retarded execution. They are trying to move away from memorizing math facts (simple addition, multiplication, etc.) and more towards a conceptual understanding.

It's retarded to do at such a low level, because there are some things in math that just need to be memorized. It works better at the high school level.
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To break the children's minds so that they cannot fight effectively in the coming war against the UN
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>>132654297
Yeah but that's only for doing arithmetic in your head there's no reason to teach it by writing it down
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>>132651570
>>132651813
The entire point is to satanically scramble the child's brain

take what education is and make it even more useless just to make the children not know why the fuck they are doing it further
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>>132650639
I can see the logic of it in one sense, it's a badly worded question and solution however.

In principle you are trying to answer 8+5, but the question is framing this as a mental step to that answer. First step get to 10, so you take 3 off 8. That potentially is an easier mental calculation than the first. So you are at 10. You know you've got 3 left, add that to 10 = 13

Think of 354 + 23 as a random example. Mentally I think I would add 6 and 2 to make 360 and 25 to get to 385, minus the 8 to get to 377
Obviously for anyone over 8 or 9 its not that hard for the problem given
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>>132654519
"Do not train children to learning by force and harshness, but direct them to it by what amuses their minds. "


"the most important part of education is proper training in the nursery"

Plato was on to something.
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>>132650639
There's nothing wrong with common core, it just so happens that americans are too dumb to understand a different way of teaching math. You think make 10 means equal 10 but it just means to get the number ten as part of the sum.
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>>132652155
I'm 40 and I haven't learned math yet.
I make 200K a year fiddling with computers
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>>132653966
I don't think there's some grand conspiracy, but the end result is basically just babysitting until the kids are legal adults. The average american K-12 education in public schools doesn't really put any pressure at all on the kids to learn anything or be achievement oriented. Most cities have magnet schools for the smart kids which are measurably better. It's a cruel fact, however, that the divide between expensive private schools and even the magnet schools is enormous. If you've got a smart kid, there's nothing better you can do for their future than an actually decent private school education. When I got to university I was miles ahead of the bulk of the public school kids. Half of them couldn't even write an essay for shit. It also turned out that our AP Calc teacher in HS taught us the equivalent of Calc 1 thru 3 over the course of a year, so I breezed through most of my math requirements. Meanwhile at my job, I interface with public school/2nd-3rd tier university dopes who can barely spell, add, or subtract. I'm rambling here but I guess my point is that there are levels of the game.


>>132654230
can you even imagine teaching numerical bases to your average american high schooler? It'd be a disaster.
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>>132655394
This is an English thread. Speak English, Achmed.
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that sucks
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>>132651222
If I have 4 donuts and you have 5 pencils how many pancakes will fit on the roof?

The answer is purple because aliens don't wear hats.
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>>132654956
They need to write it down to evaluate, but it's the thought process that is being taught.
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You can take $8 Millions dollars of worthless textbooks and mark them up another $5 Million. Then pay politicians $3 Million in kickbacks for buying the worthless textbooks. You are left with 10 Million. So fuck yeah you can make 10 with 8 plus 5.
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Nigga I didn't even complete grade 8 and I'm twenty fucking one
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>>132655756
they'll learn the thought process themselves.

Everyone thinks differently. Forcing a thought process onto someone is a bad idea desu
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>>132655148

Math by rout has no purpose, its a waste of time.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/freedom-learn/201003/when-less-is-more-the-case-teaching-less-math-in-school

"Benezet followed his outrageous suggestion with an outrageous experiment. He asked the principals and teachers in some of the schools located in the poorest parts of Manchester to drop the third R from the early grades. They would not teach arithmetic--no adding, subtracting, multiplying or dividing.

As part of the plan, he asked the teachers of the earlier grades to devote some of the time that they would normally spend on arithmetic to the new third R--recitation. By "recitation" he meant, "speaking the English language." He did "not mean giving back, verbatim, the words of the teacher or the textbook." The children would be asked to talk about topics that interested them--experiences they had had, movies they had seen, or anything that would lead to genuine, lively communication and discussion. This, he thought, would improve their abilities to reason and communicate logically. He also asked the teachers to give their pupils some practice in measuring and counting things, to assure that they would have some practical experience with numbers.

At the beginning of their sixth grade year, the children in the experimental classes, who had not been taught any arithmetic, performed much better than those in the traditional classes on story problems that could be solved by common sense and a general understanding of numbers and measurement. Of course, at the beginning of sixth grade, those in the experimental classes performed worse on the standard school arithmetic tests, where the problems were set up in the usual school manner and could be solved simply by applying the rote-learned algorithms. But by the end of sixth grade those in the experimental classes had completely caught up on this and were still way ahead of the others on story problems."
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>>132656120
move to nova scotia and start selling dope out of a trailer park.
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>>132650639
Common core is proof that "educators" only want to destroy future generations.
Almost everyone at my college who are studying to become teachers are stupid or feminist, often both. Mixing in all kinds of gender fuckery and teaching kids to be gender neutral, introducing cultural marxism at a young age, forcing their shitty beliefs on kids.
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>>132652919
>Healthcare

So like big pharma was doing for the last decades, sometimes purely bullshitting the customer, but it's ok, because they get fined time from time?

>Poverty

Like it was done by "socialists" before Ford came in with revolutionary idea of not treating workers like utter shit and sovets showed what happens when people get really mad and desperate?

>Debt

Like the ones corporations and Wall Street monkeys make? Mind you, while clearly stating that the moment anyone will try to stop them, they will do everything to collapse economy?

But than again, it's coming from a retard that thinks that decreasing taxes for rich fags will reduce the poverty because everyone knows that "sharks of capitalism" just LOVE altruism.

>Gun Control

You don't need to worry about sheep with guns as long as they are conditioned to be sheep.
Gun is not a magic tool that makes loser a winner. Loser is still a loser, only this time, he is a loser with a gun in his ass.

>Welfare

So like it was done in Victorian Britain with workhouses? Or was it ok because it weren't "dem commies" doing this shit?

>Education
>Religion

Stupid commies teaching goyim to not spend their money on some fags who claim they are messengers of God. Truly the worst thing to do.

>Class warfare.

>Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor.

I am sure that people living in mud huts while "nobility" lived in palaces didn't notice something off. Truly people were united even then.
Hell, might be proto-commies that were doing all that "peasant riots" time from time.

Mental gymnastics and "dindu nuffin" is strong here.
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This is why you don't let cucks teach
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>>132657298
Hell, if faggots like him were just stating "Yes I love the rich, and poor men go fuck yourselves", his position would be more respectable. Despicable, cynical, but respectable.

Instead, he is wriggling his ass like a fucking whore, trying to pass the things that are either the product of capitalist system (and the logical excess of said system) or the things that were here since FUCKING FEUDALISM and "socialist know how".

How much one can fucking shill for Jews and wealthy faggots?

Hitler really should've taken on the burgers. Together with Stalin.
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>>132654534
this suggests Common Core is designed to teach kids Math using pathos and not logos

but it doesnt explain how they do that

how the fuck could you learn math using emotion?
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>>132652776
Found Trudeau.
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>>132654519

Are you arguing against system to bring out the best consumers?
Are you against corporations making a "hard earned" money from these mindless consumers?

ARE YOU A FUCKING COMMIE????

Mate, making dumb consumers is an essence and endgame of capitalism. Capitalism with no restrictions whatsoever. It's a goal of global corporations as well, because dumb consumers:

a) Will consume EVERY shit and pay money for it.
b) Will be dumb enough to NOT make any competition for big players
c) Will never ask any "bad" questions.

This will ensure the constant flow of resources into (((their))) hands, and, of course, will ensure the constant flow of cannon fodder to protect their consumerist haven from everything: Nationalism, Fascism, Communism, Socialism, hell, even fucking common sense.

(((They))) took the lessons of the failure of monarchy in Russia and retake of power in Weimar Republic. They learned that you can't just treat your populace like a niggers/cattle anymore. So they created this disgusting pseudoprosperity, making general populace to consume shit they, if you think about it, don't even need much, tying them down to that chimera of "prosperity", eliminating the whole "they have nothing to lose" situation , that would sparkle the revolution of ANY kind.

And it went so perfectly on the "individualism mindset"... Nobody in their sane mind will go fight the system even if it will bleed them dry. For two reasons:
a) "Won't happen to me"
b) "Don't want to risk MY shit"

That's all. We lost.
The enemy in WW2 were not commies or nazis.
The enemy in WW2 was paying them both to become the sole undisputed victor.
The enemy in WW2 was American Upper Class. Jewish and WASP alike.
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>>132658013
Because, the answer needs to conform to your emotional needs.

If you don't like the way things work out, you can claim it to be incorrect until something can be made to work in a way that doesn't upset your feelings.

It's all about muh feels because this was made to try and improve nigger self-esteem, as they're unable to grasp standard mathematical techniques. Again, all about the feels and not about the math itself.
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>>132650639

Does anyone here remember the push for "Ebonics"?
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>>132650639
Because spics and niggers are too stupid to understand basic public education that's been going on forever.

I'm not sure if this is still a thing in Florida but when I was in high school during 11th grade you had to take and pass the fcat. Well on 9th and 10th grade we took practice test but they didn't count against you. I asked the teachers and they said it's just for the students to see how it will be like next year. So I did the first section and got board so after that I just filled the scantron with A as my answer for ever question.

Next year in 11th grade someone comes into my class to pull me put and tells me I have to go to a prep class for students who failed the practice test every other week. Told them I just Christmas treed it because It didn't count and I didn't want to take it but they say i have to go because my score said I failed.

I get into this class and it's full of spics and niggers and one kid I knew who did the same thing as me. The spics and niggers could hardly do any of the math questions. Basic fucking algebra. We also get tested for reading comprehension so the teacher has us read out loud. Each one takes about 5 minutes to read through a paragraph. Niggers are mumbling through it, spics stuttering at every word and trying to sound it out. I read through them in a minute. Finally after a few weeks of me telling them I Christmas treed the test the teacher finally tells me not to come anymore because it's apparent I know how to read and do basic math. Jesus Christ that was probably my first red pill as a kid.
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>>132650639
it's better to be technically right and do the stupid thing
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>>132651570
Mexican farmer that has a lot of workers but didn't finish High school.

Where do I learn this seems fascinating
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>>132651222
CC is a set of standards that measure student competency based on outcomes
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It is necessary to dumb down the white populace to prepare them for subjugation by the jew-asian hybrids and their clique of mulatto enforcers.
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>>132654755
i was in one of the trial high schools for a similar program
where the gov't ended up saying that the 2 yrs
of the program i took would not be counted as credit
toward my diploma.
ended up in regular math programs after that and
a summer school session
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>>132653647
good god
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>>132650639
>Why is common core a thing?
Because libtards want total control over every part of your life from cradle to grave.
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>>132650639
>8+1 = 9
>9+1 = A
>A+1 = B
>B+1 = C
>C+1 = 10
... you change the base to 13. that's how you make 10 when adding 8+5.
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>>132651222
Commen core was an executive order made by George W. Bush back in the early 00s that made every single public school in America into an indoctrination facility.
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This was called 'jewish science' in pre-ww2 germany. The jews used this tactic to confuse the schoolchildren and changed the rules of the system in an illogical fashion to raise the confusion level even further.
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Just say hey give me 10 out of the 13 you got there. I get 10 you get 3. Then I tell you to fuck off.
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>>132650639
Because nobody fucking understands that common core is not a curriculum, it's a common set of requirements for students, or what every civilized country has had since fucking forever. All the shit you see over the Internet that's claimed to be common core is just schools in shitty states implementing it in a shitty way because it's no longer possible for them to fake results and making a good curriculum that satisfies common core is no longer within their ability.
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>>132654979

Yeah it's poorly worded.
Also, it kind of depends on context of the whole page. Were the other questions next to this question similar? Did the top of the page have a big "How to add with 10's" explanation?

If you look at just this question, it doesn't make much sense.
I have seen way worse common core teacher bullshit in pics here, I just didn't save any.
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>>132654263
>all my math and basic principles were hands on. Small engineering challenges
I wish someone had done that with me.
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>>132651652

Wait. WHAT?!
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>>132652919
>pretty lame and unsubstantiatable claims that could just as well have been written by a devious /pol/tard

You'll have to do bette rthan that
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>>132651814
They're trying to teach common sense that you can manipulate numbers within the equation to make it faster.
But they're trying to teach what should be a mental half step as a full procedural step.
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>>132650639
Here's a Red Ice interview that explains (((common core))) pretty well. He doesnt mention the jews explicitly but you know whats up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxBJ2x31Zqs
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>>132653647
Holy fuck what is wrong with your education guys.
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>>132653647
>That pre-sub-remedial description
>"We take out the math they don't need, like squares and rectangels"
Jesus Christ, I'm not even good at math and even I understand that you need a BASIC understanding of geometry to go anywhere. So you start there and I assume you work you're way up college algebra? You're going to spend 4 years and God knows how much money just taking remidial courses. You'd have to go for 8 years just for a basic math degree? College is a scam. At the very least they should be honest about your employment prospects up front.
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>>132671631
Our education system is just a scheme to force people into debt slavery. Of course they're going to take advantage of the mentally deficient. And they're going to dumb down classes to get more people paying for a worthless piece of paper. The entire education system needs to be purged.
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8+5-3
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As an electrical engineer, this is completely stupid and pointless. This literally achieves nothing and will only make kids believe that maths is impossible.

In Australia we never had anything like this gladly. America's education system needs a reform.
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>then add 3
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>>132651652
>>132670419
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ8Nr3_2724
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>>132672100
I always thought homeschooling was stupid but reading what you posted it may not be such a bad idea in the USA
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>>132673492
it would be fine if they left it to the states to figure out. I have no idea why the Federal government needs to be involved with teaching kids how to do arithmetic.
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>>132655491
Look into John Dewey and Horrace Mann. Yes, it is a conspiracy. The system was cloned form the Prussian education model.

http://
archive.nevadajournal.com/nj98/05/prussian.htm

"As Governor of Massachusetts, Everett had to deal with the problem of the influx of poor Irish Catholics into his state. In 1852, with the support of Horace Mann, another strong advocate of the Prussian model, Everett made the decision to adopt the Prussian system of education in Massachusetts. Unfortunately for the children and poor Irish Catholics of Massachusetts and elsewhere, the system produced a willing, cheap labor force with minimal reading and numbers skills. The Everetts of the world understood that people who could read and understand are dangerous because they are intellectually equipped to find out things for themselves, thus becoming a threat to already established power elites."


https://
hybridrogue1.wordpress.com/2015/04/26/compulsory-schooling-indoctrination/

Inglis, for whom a lecture in education at Harvard is named, makes it perfectly clear that compulsory schooling on this continent was intended to be just what it had been for Prussia in the 1820s: a fifth column into the burgeoning democratic movement that threatened to give the peasants and the proletarians a voice at the bargaining table. Modern, industrialized, compulsory schooling was to make a sort of surgical incision into the prospective unity of these underclasses. Divide children by subject, by age-grading, by constant rankings on tests, and by many other more subtle means, and it was unlikely that the ignorant mass of mankind, separated in childhood, would ever reintegrate into a dangerous whole.
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>>132653647
What about the person who's been away from school for a long time coming back to college who forgot all of the math past arithmetic that he never had to use in real life?
What about the person who's academic interest is in something other than math?
What about the person who never achieved a fundamental competency in "basic math", yet is good at other things?

According to ridiculous assblasted STEMfags, they shouldn't get to pursue higher education. Fedoratards can't get their head out of their asses long enough to learn that there are two types of information - objective, testable, fact-based information, and then there's subjective, interpretive, analysis-based information. As far as the big picture, subjective truth is far more important than objective truth.

College Algebra isn't the math you should have learned in high school - it's the math you haven't needed since high school. And, it's for people who aren't at college to study higher math. I don't understand why these insecure /sci/posting STEMfags have to intellectually masturbate all the time about how them knowing higher math makes them superior to non-STEMfags.
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>>132674151
THIS!

Common Core is designed to make you into a nigger. My science teacher went on to be the "National Teacher of the Year 2013" and then shilled all over the country for Common Core. I later found out that the Common Core patent holders give out that award.

Guy was a multicultural wierdo. Made us watch him shake his butt to that "On the Catwalk" song during the morning announcements. Pretty sure our class Stacy was sucking his dick for her grades. Too much pedo shit at that school to even type out. I think the whole school was some kind of psychological experiment or test run for Common Core style curriculum. He worked on the team that developed something to due with Prozac and shilled for it in class to the kids.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avr3u8XI6es

http://eagnews.org/ever-wonder-why-so-many-teachers-of-the-year-support-common-core-heres-why/

But the Teachers of the Year have a dirty little Common Core secret. They are not exactly the non-partisan, objective teachers advocating for their profession to the public at large that they profess to be.

The Teacher of the Year program is actually a project of the Council of Chief State School Officers (CCSSO), which authored the Common Core Standards and holds their copyright. The Common Core chooses the Teacher of the Year. In the interest of full disclosure shouldn’t these Teachers of the Year disclose that they were spawned from the Common Core each time they star in pro-Common Core commercials, write pro-Common Core op-eds, and lobby legislatures across the country in support of the Common Core? They never do.

Current National Teacher of the Year, Jeff Charbonneau of Washington, is on paid sabbatical from his teaching obligations at the high school where he worked so that he may travel the country as a spokes-bot for the Common Core.

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/114059096/#114059096
^archived discussion of this guy
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>>132675452
Algebra is baby tier shit. If you can't pass algebra then they should sew your mouth shut and chop your hands off.
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>>132655401
No
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>>132653966
>>132674858
>>132675840

Pic related is a perfect example of modern textbook(Common Core) propaganda. Here you see them misword the second amendment. They leave some of them out in the more detailed write up and only give you a condensed summary of all of them. It's mind melting, scrambled bullshit used to confuse and propagandize.


Now you see them pushing bullshit like "looks say" where children are taught to memorize alphabetic words in whole, as if they are hieroglyphs. They should be taught how to break them down bit by bit on phonetic fashion. "Look say" is proven to cause autism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP98ZKt709A Longer rundown of the function and history of American public school.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho7PPR93XJk History of the Prussian education system and it being pushed on Americans. 21:15-25:10 explains the Volksschule and three tier class system.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDZVHaqEFWE Interview about all aspects of public education and state propaganda. First 50min is high density redpilling.
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Common core is a thing because it works on developing intuition and understanding of concepts rather than simple memorization. I used it in Taiwan to preschool and kindergarten sutdents, who have math skills higher than the typical US 1st grader. The most ridiculous part of this is that the Asians took these ideas from us and have been applying them effectively, beating us in in math by using our own innovations.
Long read: https://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/27/magazine/why-do-americans-stink-at-math.html
Shorter:
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2016/10/17/commentary/world-commentary/japanese-students-excel-mathematics/#.WV7KSojytPY
http://www.tutordoctor.com/blog/2016/october/common-core-a-view-from-japan/
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>>132676891
Why didn't you archive?

>https://nytimes com/2014/07/27/magazine/why-do-americans-stink-at-math.html
https://archive.is/XfTyV
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>What about the person who's been away from school for a long time coming back to college who forgot all of the math past arithmetic that he never had to use in real life?

how about go get a textbook and teach yourself. It's fucking algebra.

The real conceptual difficulty in math starts at Calculus and even that's pretty easy.
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>>132676891
>According to a recent story in a Japanese publication, the visiting American educators were particularly interested in the Japanese sansu method of teaching mathematics. This approach emphasizes the comprehension of underlying concepts rather than pushing memorization of formulae. In Japan they engage students through hatsumon, which translates as questions addressing a concept. In other words, students aren’t simply given worksheets to tackle, but are shown the broader meaning of the work, emphasizing real-world examples. The goal is to make math instruction as hands-on and participatory as possible.
>The teaching approach is backed up by a practice known as jugyokenkyu, or lesson study. In this method, teachers practice their lessons before a class containing students, other teachers and at least one university professor. That audience then provides feedback on the lesson -- a valuable tool that can only help to improve any lesson plan. In Japan, teachers are given a great deal of support and encouragement to ensure they’re at their best, whether it’s implementing the existing pedagogy or adapting to new ones.

Visiting American educators, however, are sometimes met with a piece of information that can be shocking: these successful math education strategies were not developed in Japan but in the United States. You see, back in the 1980s, the National Council of Teachers of Mathematics in the US developed a new set of strategies for improving mathematics education. They pushed for its adoption, but all attempts failed and the effort was forgotten. In Japan, however, educators were mighty impressed and proceeded to introduce it to their own schools. That’s right, this Japanese teaching method admired worldwide was born in the good old US of A.

That's not Common Core you dumb nigger.
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>>132653668
Analogy?
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>>132675452
>"retarded assblasted STEMfags"
>3 paragraphs of it.
hmmmmmm
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>>132675452
>According to ridiculous assblasted STEMfags, they shouldn't get to pursue higher education.

Not really the case. There's plenty of jobs and careers out there that don't require a working knowledge of math beyond precalculus or statistics. Doctors, most executives, salespeople, so on and so forth don't really need to know higher math. Most of the world's self-made billionaires probably have no clue beyond the math related to accounting.

I do find that there is a stark divide in intelligence and cognitive ability between people I encounter that have math/physics experience beyond basic calculus courses and those that don't. I think why the /r9k/ science fags get so upset is that it's really a different level of thinking and understanding from the average person. I'm a signals engineer, I was forced to master mathematics as a sophomore in college that most people could never understand, and I was forced to do so at an extremely rapid pace while taking 15 other college credits and I got fucking A's. Mathematics is academic rigor at it's purest. There's those that get it and those that don't and it really sets you aside as a different breed of person.
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>>132663260
Pridefulness is a sin, you know.
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>>132674858
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho7PPR93XJk&t=21m10s

History of the Prussian education system and it being pushed on Americans. 21:15-25:10 explains the Volksschule and three tier class system.
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>>132650639
because the people that should be culled have eight kids and the ones that should have a litter have one.
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>>132650639
I was always great at math. I love math. It speaks to me.

I would have killed myself in elementary school if I was taught this shit.

Holy fuck. When adding 8 +5 there is no fucking reason to take 2 away from anything to fucking get 10 which you then need to add another number to.

I would murder my teachers. This is cruel
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>>132678470
Anti-Christian!
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>>132650639
I'm a math major and have done mutivariabled integration and high level linear algebra. This is non-sense math.
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>>132678166
>I do find that there is a stark divide in intelligence and cognitive ability between people I encounter that have math/physics experience beyond basic calculus courses and those that don't. I think why the /r9k/ science fags get so upset is that it's really a different level of thinking and understanding from the average person.

This is literally how anyone feels when talking to someone that has a relatively equal level of education in their academic discipline, mathfag.
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>>132654604
Fucking this.
I would have gone insane if they had this shit back when I was in elementary education.
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>>132651222
It's designed to turn everyone into nigger brained serfs. Dumbasses who read the brochure will tell you, >>132661304

Actually looking into it,>>132674151

reveals it's just part of the ongoing process of public school's enslavement of the lower classes via dumbing them down.

>>132652680
>>132653668
shills
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>>132652416
You were taught Euclid early on? That's almost the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard. From the source materials + modern interpretation? That's gay as fuck. Might as well have been learning 2+2. The rest of us didn't need to know the roots until much later on to do productive maths. We laugh at you who learned the old methods first, public school "you can't square a circle with a straightedge and compass" fucks.
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>>132652563
you know how I take 3d derivatives? I take them partially
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Teacher's math:
2 - 5 = 3
2 + 8 = 10
10 + 3 = 13
The teacher is wrong.
Correct answer: ( "You can not make ten with 8 + 5" )
8 + 5 = 13
13 - 3 = 10
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>>132653113
most of it is trying to force the dumb kid to learn the mental shortcuts. trying to close the gap by slowing the smarter kids. makes it hard to tell my kid this shit is important when he's at least two years past everything they do in class
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>>132672023
That task looks like complete horseshit famalam
I have a bachelor's in electric engineering and I wouldn't even touch that shit if something like that was given me as a task for learning anything useful
Fuck, even if I got a PhD for it I wouldn't touch it
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>>132678356
>>132678726
Eat a bullet you faggot, kikestain serf.
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>>132650639
How to get 'good' at math? Where to start?
I have a basic high school background
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>>132678664
8 + 5 = 13
13 - 2 = 11
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>>132679032
>he can't multiply three two digit numbers in his head
dumb fucks hate it for the wrong reasons, smart fucks hate it for the right reasons.
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>>132674151
god dammit every time
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>>132651222
It's forcing you to think even if it's really dumb. People are too use to just putting in the right answer and using calculators this is the only way to make it seem like they're actually doing work.
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>>132651567

That's not what is written on the test question, though.
As someone who has to work with numbers, geometry, transforms and equations everyday for a living, Common Core is a nightmarish hell.

It seems designed to make people stupid (and I suspect it is)
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>>132679318
What's the last math you remember taking? do you know what a derivative is? do you know what a quadratic equation is?
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They want to instill youth with the idea of an "infinite supply" of integers.

They want to tell the youth that there's an imaginary repository where you can put REMAINDERS and things that JUST DONT MAKE SENSE and it'll go away and you can forget about it

They want to make people ok with usury.
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>>132679436
>he can't multiply three two digit numbers in his head

what?
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>>132679163
A. we have Mathematica for this shit
B. it was a joke screenshotted from a UVA presentation
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>>132677376
Maybe more males would excel in school if that method had been taught here.

Statement based on the consideration of your story being true with no reference to the study.
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>>132678664
I can understand the logic of it. For say 26+19, In my head it's faster to do: 26+4=30+15=45. But that is a trick that grew naturally out of me learning the foundational way of doing it of 26+19=45. I think forcing kids to make that leap is irrational, you have to walk before you run, kids should learn math the traditional way and then develop that trick on there own. They are just going to fuck kids brains up trying to force them to do it the common core way.
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>>132679702
Thank fuck for that then I was about to get upset
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What the fuck?????

Screwing with children's minds
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>>132652563
Mine made to fifth grade and half way through he was sick of the shit and asked to go to private school. We pulled him from public and he loves private school. The rich kids suck but they don't usually try to get all stabby unlike our public school chirin.
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>>132679691
youre a fucking dullard and you mask it with talking points and 'lol who cares about that shit'
>inb4 math major 300k
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>>132676891
Those teachomg "Common Core" should learn math again.

The teacher's writing translated into mathematics:
2 - 5 = 3
8 + 2 = 10
10 + 3 = 13
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>>132679524
Yes I know what both things are.
Something like this is the hardest math I had to learn in high school(link below) but I dont know where I should start now.
Could you possibly recommend some good books?
http://www.wiskunde-uitwerkingen.nl/Vwo/wiskundeB/VB15%20Toepassingen.pdf
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I actually have a theory that they are just making overly simple math out to be "super hard" so they can turn everyone off of math and thus destroy the middle class. Think about it, when you go to college if you can't do math or wont do math you have very few options in major choice and thus people choose Gender shit. When I went to my fist Physics department meeting as a new major there were 9 other majors, 9 out of a reasonably sized school, 9, or i guess that's 7 +2 these days not 9.
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>>132680146
You don't know anything about me. Are you seriously defending this shit?

>inb4 2 smart 4 u
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>>132654979
If someone had taught me that 8+5 = 10+3 during early school I would have gone better.

Having said that the common core questions posted online are bad and take the idea to full retard by teachers that (apparently) do not understand it.

> Think of 354 + 23 as a random example. Mentally I think I would add 6 and 2 to make 360 and 25 to get to 385, minus the 8 to get to 377

I would do +20 +3. But the same idea applies.

The problem stems from how rigidly they seem to be enforcing stuff.
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>>132680242
They don't memorize multiplication tables anymore because rote memory is racist.
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>>132650639

Fucking jew

I can't wait to burn them all

FUCKING jews
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>>132680396
im not but calling people shills just for understanding the concept behind it shows you're stupidity
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>>132680232
Sure, so I'll have to do some digging but I'm pretty sure this is the book I learned with in college in PDF form, start going through and if something is what you already know then skip and progress

https://www.whitman.edu/mathematics/multivariable/multivariable.pdf
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>>132680146
>>132679436
>>132680799

This has nothing to do with OP's pic or any of the common core material. WTF are you on about cunt!?
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>>132650639
>then add 3

but then we get 13 again.
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>>132681001

The jew just wants the kids to get mad and not even like math.
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>>132679948
it's apparently the real Lagrangian for the Standard Model but nobody uses that form. It's a bunch of obnoxious tensor math that describes quarks and bosons, and it's not even totally correct, because physics is hard and stuff
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>>132680602
After you have gone through this material then you can progress to basic Linear algebra and Multi variable Calc, those are two seperate branches but good fundamentals in Calc can help with Linear algebra even though you could technically start that right now if you like.
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>>132681001
"Those who can not do, teach."
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>>132650639
Because they want the give niggers partial credit.

Decent people send their kids to private schools.
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>>132680242
8+11 you uncommon core pleb
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>>132650639
Math Teacher here
Common core is good because it gives a good outline for what material/ when to teach it.
THE PROBLEM
you have stupid grammar school teachers that do not understand math and so they teach exactly how it says to in common core.
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>>132680966
>why is common core a thing
>>they are trying to teach smart kid techniques to dumb nigger kids and you're a fucking moron if you don't realize this
couldn't be more related to the OP
you just wanted to post your faggy-assed picture and say shill online.
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>>132681170
Yeah I recognize parts of that formula and where they come from enough to get the idea of what it's trying to achieve, but it's still obscene and useless in any application
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>>132681180
>Linear algebra and Multi variable Calc
I don't care how you teach multiplication you're not going to get a room full of spics and niggers to understand algebra much less calc.
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>>132652106
Current Teacher- This is the most accurate statement about common core
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>>132680232
"Calculus Made Easy 1910"

Text books from ~post 1950 are bullshit designed to scramble your brain. Older ones are much more concise. Gonna have to reddit post for this one, but trust me it's worth it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/math/comments/66k3c0/ive_just_start_reading_this_1910_book_calculus/
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>>132681418
>and so they teach exactly how it says to in common core.
You mean they follow directions? Teachers like you are why I pulled my kid out of public school.
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>>132680242
if you go to college and don't know math, they just hold your hand for two years while taking 12k a semester out of your pocket
t. taught 20-somethings math i learned in 7th grade at a school i was told i was lucky to get into
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>>132681418
So you're saying GATE was a means to reverse engineer how the smart kids learned and repackage it into common core?
>But we wuz xmanz! GATE BTFO
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>>132680199
>2 - 5 = 3
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>>132650639
Common core. . . mother fucker. . . common core. . . mother fucker. . . common core. . . MOTHER FUCKER!
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>>132681515
Explain how OP's pics is le smart kid technique? For your info i was great at math growing up. You are a giant fucking shill and anyone can see it. Nothing in this thread, or Common Core, has anything to do with multiplying three two digit numbers in your head. You're probably a butthurt nigger that got triggered by my pic.
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>>132680232
Do the first book and work outwards, look them up online.
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>>132651667
this
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>>132650639
id say this logic is fucked
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>>132681729
lol you stupid fuck,
I mean they teach how OP posted a pic instead of just teaching PURE math.
Common core is a goof guideline but THE METHODS they use are mathematically autistic
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>>132681729
do you really want your kid to add like OP posted or would you rather them know that 8 plus 5 is fucking 13
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>>132681876
>>132681729
I have a Black friend who took preCalc for a whole year because he failed it 3 times, mean while he's bitching about how hard it is as I'm doing math that would fry his monkey brain.
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>>132650639
What they are trying to communicate is a valid concept. reduced to absurdity, you can say that
(1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1) + (1+1+1+1+1) = 13, or any grouping therein can be made to sum to 13. it is trying to get the kids to appreciate the deeper meaning of the numbers themselves.

the problem, is that most teachers are fucking retarded, and have no idea how to communicate this properly.
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>>132652919
hi, i am from /pol
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>>132681418
>teacher here
>Common Core is great
>but it's actually not when you really follow it
>did i mention I'm a teacher

Am i surrounded by fucking idiots!? They took lead out of the gasoline a long time ago right? Common Core material is obviously written to have open ended answers so the teacher can dish out points based on social ques. It's jsut behavioral conditioning to get you to lick the feet of your authority figures.

>>132681876
Damn straight. Teachers are subhuman pedos who couldn't get a real job.
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>>132681418
>>132682466
>>132682660
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>>132682932
what do you teach?
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>>132682932
>Damn straight. Teachers are subhuman pedos who couldn't get a real job.
^meant for
>>132682466
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>>132651222
It was conceived and pushed by actual Jews.
>dumming down(poor students)
>divide and conquer( teacher vs parent vs admin vs kid vs sports vs free time vs normal development)
>Add mud to the system to fuck everyone and everything.

Mission accomplished as GWB would say. Pic is common core architect.
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This is your daily reminder to:
1) have lots of white kids
2) do so responsibly
3) "responsibility" defined as being financially able
4) NEVER NEVER NEVER send your kid to a public school
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>>132682660
i cant imagine your typical public school teacher can appreciate that concept at all.
too much teaching from answer books.
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>>132683011
Nothing, i have a real job. You pieces of shit should be lined up and shot for what you've done to this country.

>>132683024
Shit, meant for
>>132681729
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I'd love to teach Math to kids but alas I have a simple Math/physics degree (Double Majored faggits) and I'd need a child indoct... I mean education degree.
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>>132655724
Common core in a nutshell.
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>>132652307
are u Philippine or Czech? I wanna kno if ur chicks are hott or ass ugly
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>>132682466
>lol you stupid fuck
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>>132651222
It just teaches kids how to use very slow mental math that will work for you up until basic algebra. it exists so the slow kids help schools get gibs from the govt
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>>132682660
No, you're giving them too much credit. The orders were unclear and so the answer will be. This is all very intentional. Your explanation has nothing to do with "making 10" you shitstain.
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>>132683391
you should look more into that if youre actually interested in teaching. a lot of places are dying for eager math teachers and in my area (highly rated local and state school system) you can teach most subjects with just a bachelors in your subject.
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>>132651222
The Department of Education tried to dumb math down so niggers could do it too, but it actually dumbed everyone else down due to it teaching ambiguous and occasionally flawed logical processes, hence the "american education" meme
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>>132683347
i agree, but realize this
I've taught in the hood and I have taught in rich whiteyville.
Blacks are pushed through the system and fail everything everyday
the whites actually learn. so have no fear babe
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>>132681729
Teachers are FUCKING INSANE. They cover for each other's pedophilia. It's the almost college dropouts that go into teaching. Nothing but statist bootlickers.
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>>132679032
>implying niggers bother taking Calc

It's not even mandatory in high school anymore, people do precalc senior year if they didn't have any AP/honors beforehand, and only 1 semester of math needed in college for non-stem majors in college. Niggers will just take college algebra.
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>>132683753
you should use a trip
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>>132652680
I would be inclined to call you a shill, but this isn't entirely wrong. Common core teaches you how to get the right answer but teaches you literally nothing about the process so it's basically useless.
It's the equivalent of average computer science education in India, the pajeets can do nothing but write boilerplate code so they're expendable and turned into keyboard serfs. Common core turns you into a serf in the same manner (you don't know the reasoning behind anything)
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>>132683971
DESU I don't know what I want to do, I still have a year left till I get the degree so who knows, I hear the pay is shit though so I don't know, but the opportunity to subtlety influence kids for the better is slightly appealing.
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>>132651222
It's to confuse kids so they get the same scores as nigs.
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>>132682932
>written to have open ended answers so the teacher can dish out points based on social ques
Correct.
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>>132684000
I know that. I transferred into a half spic shithole. They should throw shitskins in the zoo, not school.

>>132681729
>>132682556
He want's teachers who will call bullshit on a bullshit system. Not a bunch of asswipes that will do their own thing while promoting the shit system like goddamned schizophrenics.
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>>132684043
most are insanse but I think its because
>be in grammar school
>graduate
>be in middle school
>graduate
>be in high school
>graduate
>be in college
>graduate
>get a job as a teacher IN A SCHOOL
Most teachers have no idea how the real world works.
I may be a teacher but I worked maintenance, security, and I have a black seal boiler license and work part time.
my dad was a mechanical engineer that hated lazy niggers
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>>132684197
>(you don't know the reasoning behind anything)
This

In precalc, we did a few weeks on stats. All the teacher did was hand out a z-chart and give us formulas for standard deviation, z-score, etc. and we weren't taught any of the meanings of that stuff (it wasn't even in the textbook), just told to plug in and round up.

Lo and behold, everyone fails ACT probability questions because all they learned was plugging in numbers into a formula.
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>>132681519
Done some small amount of work in particle physics, it's very relevant over there. As are expansions of it.
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>>132652692
>let's see
>do I want have to run through a set of steps every time I want to solve something
>or
>pull it straight from memory

Guess which is faster.
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>>132679055
Nice 2nd year calculus, you faggots. You're not smart and nobody likes you
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>Brainlets complaining about common core

Nothing new here
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>>132679450
>common core
>thinking
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>Let's invent a system were we emphasize partial treatment errors instead of dealing with full treatment errors.
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>>132684473
>flag
>advocating for common core

something doesn't make sense here
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>>132684454
Making math jokes isn't easy, Try to rational about all this.
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>>132683114
precisely what I'm saying. the teacher in OP is clearly writing a response out of a book, and has no understanding of what is trying to be communicated

>>132683753
8 + 5 = 13
(1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1)+(1+1+1+1+1) = 13

10 + 3 = 13
(1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1)+(1+1+1) = 13

people like you are the reason we're in this shitshow to begin with. If retards hadn't made us look like shit next to Japan and "Muh Yurop" we wouldn't have had the need to do this common core shit to begin with.
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>>132684476
There is something they do in Physics Education research (that's where I saw it used anyway) where they give people a trick question test and see if they can actually reason through it, this kid reasoned through it and the teacher gave the idiot answer. I can't tell if this is Funny or sad, Probably both.
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>>132652680
>>132684197
>>132684410
OK shills.

8+5 "makes" 10

Explain that to my retarded ass.
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If you add 8 and 5 you dont get 10 its that simple
Why not take 5 from 8 and add the other 5?
Why is it take 2 from 5 and add 8?
Why not just know SINGLE digit addition?
You cant science that shit out its single digits
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>>132684733
thus what i said earlier
>>132682466
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>>132684937
8 + 5 = 3 + 5 + 5

Such that 10 + 3 = 8 + 5
implying that the 10 on the left side is the 10 they want.
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>>132684937
It makes zero sense whatsoever. The reason why I agreed with him is just because you can do something doesn't mean you understand.

Pajeet can write a program with all sorts of fancy packages, but he can't write that same program using his own knowledge, so Pajeet is basically useless. That is common core
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>>132651222
>social (((scientists))) poll smart people
>discover that smart people often have novel solutions for doing mental arithmetic
>draw the genius conclusion that intelligence is just a consequence of being lucky enough to discover such novel solutions(or those pesky goys teaching their kids)
>decide to reform schools to make them about teaching mental arithmetic
>in the hopes that this will magically transform the brains of the retrograde troglodytes known as the north American pavement ape
>ends up not working
>(((they))) still decide to push it, because it confuses the dimmer whites enough it achieves their overall goal
>equality
It's a beautiful, beautiful thing. Jewry of this level only happens once in a blue moon.
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>>132650639
>tfw they're not teaching them to use base-13
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>>132684733
That's not "making" 10 you disingenuous fuckstick. That whole question is so opened ended you would have to peer into the fourth dimension to comprehend it. That teaches nothing, and is not layed out in the question at all. Your breaking Indian numeral math down into Roman numeral caveman shit. This is pure atavism.
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>>132684410
This was something that extremely disappointed me. I had to teach myself everything in that class because they explained nothing behind it. Lucky for me I know R and just got my work out of the way in a few minutes on my laptop so I could do the actual learning
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>>132650639
8+5 =
(8 + 2) + 3 =
10 + 3 = 13

Literally the associative property.

We have too many spics and niggers if our students actually complain about this. Those retards should look at Russian K-12 math books, fucking hell.
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>>132684476
Holy shiiiiiiit.

So 1 cut = 10 mins. 2 cuts = 20 mins.

2 cuts = 3 fucking pieces. WTFFFFUUUUCK. Why are the kids smarter than the fucking teachers with these answers? This is insane.
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>>132685316
>the associative property being useful in basic addition
>ever
wew lad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPtQFI4qeoE
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>>132650639
>You can make 10 with 8+5 by basically adding 8+5, resulting in 13, which is 3 over 10... but get this, you can just magically ignore 3 so you get 10!
Fucking liberals and their math and economic policies...
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>>132685523
The teachers are probably just grading off of a key and putting no thought into it, nobody except a nigger or maybe a spic could be that dumb
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>>132685316

Holy shit you are actually retarded.
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>>132650639
>be American
>get "educated"
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>be me
>be 3rd grade
>placed in "advanced math"
>every week we would do a race
>whoever could do the most of these in 3 mins would win
>Sometimes addition sometimes subtraction or division/multiplication
>Beat everyone by at least double everytime
>Every week I was king of math gods for about 5 mins
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>>132684436
Particle physics is so absurdly complex and unmanageable I can believe it a little bit, people who work in that field are not right in the head, no normal person can stand working with this kind of stuff regularly
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>>132685008
They're throwing them back into the dark age of numeral counting. Numeral counting peasants of old were easy to swindle at the bargaining table if you knew Indian numerals. They're rehashing proven serfdom techniques.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojqfwtwitMI
^skip to 43m to see what i mean
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>>132685614
You would fail any college proof-based math course if you can't understand the OP question.

Absolute brainlet.
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>>132651667
They also eliminated analogy tests because Whites were doing "too well" on them.

For example, hot is to cold, as dangerous is to
a) safe <-----
b) free
c) light
d) expensive

Pretty simple, right?

Well, they essentially replaced them with non-objective writing tests, where panels of judges decide how many points to give you. To go out on a limb, I imagine that if you write "too White" they might "balance out" your score a little. Care to guess which section of the SAT that I got the fewest points on?
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>>132685529
>math and economic
Those are one and the same thing, and true believing leftists understand neither
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>>132685316
I agree that understanding this is necessary to math as a whole. That being said, teaching this to kids and the way the question is worded seems to be nothing but trickery and monkey math, you need to understand 5+8 =13 before understanding you can deconstruct things, Also I don't think they have text books, with books I could see them learning easier, or rather that's how I learn mostly so I assume the kids do. Te data says kids suck at math so obviously it's not working or working for (((them))).
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>>132685038
It's not a good guideline at all. You even said yourself that it's terrible when the teachers actually follow it. Get your fucking head scanned.
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The kike behind common core literally admitted (in a roundabout way) that the reason for common core is that if you dumb everything down and make it incredibly convoluted, then everyone does poorly, rather than just blacks.

Because they know they can't raise black test scores, they just decided to lower everyone else's test scores instead by using backwards insane bullshit.

On that note, this is your DAILY REMINDER to find a good woman who wants to be a stay at home mom, have lots of children, and HOMESCHOOL THEM so that you don't need to deal with the cancer that is the public school system.
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/pol/ aside from homeschooling, how do I exempt my hypothetical children from this common core shit assuming it is ging to still be around by the time I make some broad preggers?
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>>132685200
>This is what statist serfs tell themselves to sleep at night.
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>>132664004
Nice answer. :)
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>>132685716
because that's bassically IQ testing and we all know who's not very good at that.
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>>132653966
Went to public school but my parents (dad particularly) taught me how to read, solve basic math, and times tables 1-12 by third grade.

I guess I am "privileged". Maybe the problem of America becoming dumber has to do with parenting becoming worse.
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>>132685941
Didnt they lower the requirements for blacks recently because they literally could not compete?
Asians and blacks are both minority whos families have been in poverty since forever but why do asians score nearly tripple what blacks do on the same tests?
People have argued for ages its because black kids dont have stable homes or poverty reduces scores which both are true but asians and whites have the same issues.
Dirt poor asians in Laos score better than black kids int he richest nation on earth
cant splain dat

50:1 or higher on math
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>>132660432
Why doesn't your family work on your farm. Instead they come running to America for the lights an sounds.
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>>132684476
wut
its 20 mins rite?
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>>132650639
>Why is common core a thing?
Because it teach multiple ways to solve the same problem and it promotes creativity.

Low-IQ opponents of Common Core usually cherry-pick with this kind of example, because literally anything can be written on a blank page latter by a Funny Junkie and pretend it was a teacher scolding a child. Then the stupidest nitwits on /pol/ fall for it like clockwork.
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>>132685714
This has nothing to do with proofs. This is basic introductory math.
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>>132650639
>then add 3

Okie dokie famalamadingdong
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>>132686459
That's for college admissions though, and to answer your question, yes. common core is for public school education, starting all the way in kindergarten.
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>>132683105
jew run society has made it very difficult for whites to have kids responsibly, as in financially able.

I agree with you, but its hard.
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>>132676695
>They should be taught how to break them down bit by bit on phonetic fashion.

Phonics lead to advanced literacy and linguistic prescriptivism (ie: words have meaning and people often use language incorrectly). Guess (((who))) wants to abolish the foundations of encoding and decoding meaning.
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>>132685633
When I was young, we called them "Mad Minutes."
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>>132650639

Actually do you know what this shit reminds me of? Pic related.

This is teaching kids not to answer questions with reality, but to warp the question to fit THEIR reality, as in essentially make it up as you go along.

Correcting kids who get the answer right, because they're using actual reality. By telling them their wrong, because in the "correct" reality (the teacher's), that answer is wrong. The meaning has been changed to be whatever the fuck the teacher wants, and that is correct.

This is really, really dark. There's no wonder SJWs and the like are so deluded. Kids minds are going to be completely broken by common core. Rejecting all ideas of logic, warping reality to be whatever they want it to be.

Forcing kids who get it right to admit they're wrong until they break down.

Argh, evil as fuck.
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>>132686566
Naw the second cut she has to make is faster because she has experience cutting.

Look at how far ahead the minority group asians is ahead of the minority group blacks

People keep saying minorities are oppressed and that is why they cant compete. I guess minorities dont include asians anymroe
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>>132686662
t. nigger
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>>132686291
Actually it's more a problem of parental indifference. So many people fell for the meme that school has what's best for them in mind. They dont think to question it anymore.
That, and Home-school takes time away time from paying off those college loans

>meme people into paying hundreds of thousands of debt to the state

>Force both parents out of children's lives

>Children learn from uncle govt.

>Cycle repeats
Pretty simple
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>>132684476
My fucking sides. Fuck that teacher.
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>>132650639
Did they sabotage our education system on purpose? lmao what is this retard-tier bullshit?
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>>132687035
No she doesn't, it says "if she works just as fast", which means 10 minutes per cut.

Stop trying to warp reality. This is bullshit.
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>>132686863
I know what common core is and the reasoning for it is to promote math usage amoung inner city blacks
The thing it is has not worked at all. Scores are falling not rising I think its time we acknowledge blacks are not as good as whites or asians at math and science but are better in other areas. We should use peoples strengths instead of trying to force everyone to be the same at everything
It simply will never happen. Blacks are much better at being street smart than whites. I am not talking about being street ghetto ect but actually knowing how things work in the world at a younger age. They can tell when something is changed in a room much quicker than a white kid or if someone is about to do some dumb shit they know to react first.
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>>132651567
The issue is that Common Core seems to intentionally punish kids for being technically correct. A math problem shouldn't have vauge details that can be interpreted multiple ways. There's nothing wrong with critical thinking via word problems, but CC likes to make cheap "gotchas" that punish kids for assuming the problem is to be taken literally (as mathematics is designed to be). At best is shoddy design of educational materials, but at worst it's part of the more sinister agenda behind Common Core and the public education system as a whole. When you design a question in a supposedly objective subject (such as math) so that semantics are truly the only way to solve the problem it effectively becomes an attack on truth, logic, and critical thinking. It trains the student to question their own intuition even in things that seem objectively logical. Only the authority figure has the final say of what it "correct" or "true". Truth can't be determined by your weak individual mind. Just trust the experts. Common Core is very Orwellian in this way
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This doesn't have to do with Common Core, but just overall problem with Americas school and the job market.

EVERYBODY wants to be an engineer.

That's good motivation, but when engineering classes are so dumbed down that ANY dumb nigger can pass it, you find yourself with 100 unskilled "A+" engineering students. Then after they graduate, they dont get a job because feminists run almost every HR in every business, causing white males to be turned down no matter what their skill. Then you find yourself with a bunch of unproductive land whales causing productivity to go down 100%
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>>132683105
Ideally, send your kid to an old-school military academy
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>>132686291
>hurr durr my parents had to spend extra time with me on top of the public school
>public school is just fine

The "I'm smarter than the rest" meme is the insanity engine behind these Orwellian schemes. Notice everyone who is ok with this crap uses it.
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>>132686257
I believe the *excuse* was that White people use some of the words more than black people, so the tests had a "racial bias." Why they made us declare our race on every external test starting in fourth or fifth grade.

Hmm, let me try eliminating the "White bias" of that question.

hot is to cold, as dawg is to
a) bitch <-----
b) muhfugga
c) crips
d) niggaz
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>>132687467
Hmm maybe she has a LONG ass peice of wood and is cutting peices off of it?

Teacher has downs tho as the wording states she cut a board in two peices then cuts another into 3
Which means 1 cut and then 2 cuts
idk how you get 15 mins given the wording
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>>132684476
Are these teachers, or nincompoops?
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>>132687765
There's no need to repeat yourself.
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>>132687035
Hmm, it's odd that American Indians score better than Mexicans. Becauseif you think about it, Mexicans (ie, Mestizos) are hybrids between whites and native americans like aztecs/mayans/etc. And all the native indian people really aren't too far related from each other, owing to the fact that they all only came to America from northeast asia relatively recently, and so there hasn't been much divergence. So you'd think that the mexican scores would fall somewhere between the american indian and the white scores. Not below both.
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>>132687686
Is Niggaz also an acceptable answer?
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>>132687686
i dont buy the whole "they dont use those words" meme
Its simply they dont understand the words like cat or dog or fish
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>>132687686
No such thing as racial bias. Race doesn't exist. There is no gene for race.
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>>132650639
I mean if you have 8 apples in one hand and 5 apples in the other hand you can make 10 apples out of that

it's not retarded, it's teaching kids to round to easier numbers to do mental math better. you're the retard because you need to draw out a fucking lattice of digits to add 2 digit numbers
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>>132687826
Natives are basically asians that went across Alaska back in the day. I bet they are the ones who suffer the worse from home issues with constant drunk parents ect

Res land is like anouther country its crazy with rabid dogs and people walking around drunk all the time
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>>132687686
To be fair, it probably IS somewhat true that there's room for bias when it comes to tests that rely on a background of having the right vocabulary. You can be smart as hell, but if those tests use uncommon words that you just haven't happened to have ever seen before, that can throw you off.

Of course, we all know that's not REALLY the reason niggers do poorly. But it's valid in terms of accuracy on IQ tests, which is why IQ tests use pattern recognition rather than word recognition.
And also, don't forget that they added the writing section back in like 2008 or so to the SATs to make it less of an aptitude test. So clearly the logic of "assessments of vocabulary aren't fair" isn't actually valid.
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>>132687826
North American Indians are a Mongoloid/Caucasian blend that crossed the Alaskan bridge. South Americans have nigger genes from the nigs skipping along SE Asia and over the Cook Island and the nigger slaves the Spanish brought.
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>>132687234
Holy shit! Thank you for posting this.
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>>132688226
They use pattern recognition for IQ not word pattern, perhaps something like that would be good?
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>>132688225
>Natives are basically asians that went across Alaska back in the day

But that's true of all Indians. Not just the ones who settled in the plains. This includes the ones who settled mexico. Remember, mexicans are essential 50% white and 50% indio (ie, native american)

So if they're a hybrid of indian and white, shouldn't their scores be inbetween indians and whites?
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>>132684476
Im pretty sure they introduced this because they cant make niggers smarter, and most teachers can't teach this shit. A good deal of teachers have their degree in education(obviouisly). If anyone in STEM has been around an education major in college, especially when dealing with math, you know exactly what I'm saying when I say they are fucking retards.
If you wanted students to actually succeed in math and science, get the people who actually understand the math and use it regularly to teach it (aka scientists and engineers).
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>>132688178
might as well burn all those books lmao. just a bunch of marxist drivel.
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>>132688306
I'm not talking about puerto ricans or brazilians though. I'm talking about the mexicans. They're mestizos. Half indian, half white.
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>>132650639

The idea is that it makes it easier to work with larger numbers.

456+728 is easier when you do things like
456-50 and 728+50 for 406+778 then take 2 from 406 and make it 780. Throw that left over 4 to make 400+784. Now it's just a matter of slapping that 400 in there. It takes 300 to make 1084 and then you slot in the remaining 100 for 1184.

This is still a small number really, but it makes more sense as you reach more complicated equations.
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>>132653966
High res pic please.
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Adolf Hitler burned 3,000 Jews a day for 5 years. How many Jews died in the Holocaust?
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>>132688359
They won't do that. They're trying to move away from anything aptitude based (like IQ tests) because niggers and beaners would perform poorly and we can't have that, goy!

In a perfect world, we'd just administer IQ tests to everyone in highschool and use those for college admission.
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>>132688449
That makes sense. I think most people that have a solid grasp on math do this without even thinking about it, CC or not.
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>>132688563
Adolf Hitler killed 4 milliion jews at auschwitz and 6 million jews total. Then, the figure was reduced to 1.1 million jews dying at auschwitz. What is the new total number of jews who died in total?
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>>132651567
>critical thinking
Critical theory more like, it's marxist propaganda to induce cognitive dissonance to the point where they will believe 8 plus 5 is 10, and therefore there are no subjective truths, how many fingers am I holding up ?
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>>132688694
Not enough.
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>>132688694
6 trillion
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>>132688178

Then why is taking 3 from 8 adding the 5s and then the 3 a wrong answer? It's more natural to count in 5s
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>>132688178
"Makes" isn't even a real math term. You're so full of shit. This is destruction of the entire Indian numeral system. We were drilled on breaking numbers down into easier to work with numbers for equations. The questions were layed out much clearer than this. Quit defending these monsters.
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>>132684451
>let's see
>do I want to use my brain to come up with a answer on my own, through work
>or
>pull it straight from memorized information that does not show intellect in any way shape or form.

Guess which is more redpilled.

I hate common core, but your child still needs to learn how to do the process of multiplication or they won't be able to do shit higher than the numbers presented on the chart.

I have never once thought in school that the kids in class who copied and memorized a book were actually any more intelligent. Mimicry is no more intelligent than a fucking parrot.
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>>132688449
That's not what the question says at all. I know what you're talking about. We did that growing up. This is not that at all.
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>>132675452
>As far as the big picture, subjective truth is far more important than objective truth
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>>132689226

The question in the OP is meant for someone learning how to use common core.

8+5 is 10+3 which will later become 13.
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>>132689409
That's not math.
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>>132685633
We did this too. We called it Math drills. Whoever goes past the "best time" got punished. Usually left behind to clean the classroom. We also memorized the multiplication tables.
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>>132689409
How do you know common core? What, is it a communist thing?
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>>132689641
What kind of faggotry is punishing people for doing good?
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>>132689538
It is now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzlG28B-R8Y
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>>132689538

It's just as much math as 34+67 turning into (30+60) and (4+7) which then turns into (30+60+10) and (1) which becomes 100+0+1

Common core is just a simpler form of what we've already been doing but it looks foreign to us so we assume it's stupid at first.
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>>132690078
I did that growing up. It was called breking things down into 5s, 10s, and a remainder. We were not told to "make" 10 out of a fixed equation. It was explicitly asked to use the 5,10 system in the question.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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