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>>132565162
>burgers aren't animal abuse because they're """""delicious"""""

It's weird how bullfighting is still pretty well regarded but animal sacrifice is seen as weird.
Granted, bullfighting isn't any less violent than slaughter from what I know.

>>132565162
>im gonna give this bull some honor by stabing it to death.

you need to be an aficionado

>Animal abuse

Who gives a fuck you worthless hippy?

>don't harass mushits for their cultural bullshit (which include rape, killing faggots, stoning and suppressing women)
>down with Spanish culture

Why are leftists so contradictory? It's almost too easy to win arguments at this point.

>>132565162

Every now and then the bull wins

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go club a seal fashy

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>>132565162

More like "honor a bull"

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>>132568315

>>132568315
Not often enough.

>>132568315
That doesn't make the normal cases any less bad

The bulls bred for the ring would go extinct if it wasn't for bullfighting.
Do you want to cause another extinction because of your fee-fees?

>>132568537
shut up you gay idiot

>>132568537
CARLOS!

>>132568537
carlos!

>>132568809
did he died?

>>132565162
How often does a bull get the chance to murder a human?

Why would you deprive these noble beasts their one chance to get revenge?

>>132568537
whoa there, carlos

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>>132568809

>>132566626
Of course any argument is easy to win when you ignore the real argument and make up your own discussion with an easily defeatable strawman character.

Like how you completely ignored bullfighting and instead made up other bad stuff that I never did.

How about we let the Spaniards decide that

I think it is a duel and it can be pretty sexy and sometimes brutal but they know the risks

>>132570047
Shieeeeeet that's fucking metal as fuck

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>>132569521
No but he wished he did.
"Antonio Romero ended up with the bull’s horn some 11 inches up his rectum, causing “severe” injuries."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdQKIgBinjM
this hombre did
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbA_hdZ4i3I

>>132570517
Brutal as fuck.

>>132569012
who gives a fuck

let them go extinct

>>132565162
Bull fighting is for cowards.
Sure most people are even more craven but you're coming into a fight against a wild animal with a steel weapon. Already you have the edge.
Then you ensure your edge by stabbing it multiple times BEFORE the fight.
It's like a woman with a dagger fighting a man who's been stabbed in the neck before the fight starts.

>>132565725
At least in bullfights the bull can take some people with him. Not so in slaughterhouse. I think that gives it some honor, though I wouldn't call it honorable.

bull gets a better fighting chance there than a steer does in a slaughter house.

>>132565162
The bull has a chance to fight back so it's honorable.

>>132570790
Sure, why not?
But it's hypocritical to say bullfighting is cruel while in the same breath advocating for the extinction of a species.

>>132565599
I thought they worshiped cows. Is that a crime punishable by death?

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>>132571381
>But it's hypocritical to say bullfighting is cruel while in the same breath advocating for the extinction of a species

i'm not advocating for the extinction of a species

i'm simply saying bullfighting is morally wrong from humans to do, therefore we should stop doing it

if that particular bull species goes extinct after that process, so be it

>>132570952
>"for cowards"
>something liable to get a horn shoved up your ass

I mean I'm not pro-bullfighting but shut up with that "cowardly" shit.

>>132571448
Hindus yes.

>>132565162
They eat the bull.

>>132565162
>animal abuse
>man fighting an animal that is 8 times the size on even ground
>man is just at risk (in fact far more at risk) of being maimed, killed, etc.
>bull literally evolved to fight
>most bullfighting never ends with bull's death and their injuries are rarely even severe

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>>132570674
>let them go extinct
unironically implying humans
earth would be better off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kAlrG4jS9M

>>132571622
There are different levels of cowardice.
Most modern people will let you fuck their waifus in front of them for fear of confrontation. Obviously a bull figher is braver than them.
But is fighting a wounded bull braver than say....hunting bears or sticking your dick in a boipussy without a rubber? nope. The act is cowardly by any standards but the lowest.

>>132571582
>i'm simply saying bullfighting is morally wrong from humans to do, therefore we should stop doing it
No its a dumb fucking animal and with out us would probably get eating by wolves.
Why to show how fucking dumb you are.
Animals kill other animals and eat them.
We just get some fun outta it.

>>132571891
anon if you got in the ring with a bull and see if you don't spaghetti yourself

>>132572384
I'd want to fight it unwounded so the win would be meaningful and I'd get some bragging rights.
Then again I'm white.

Fuck bullfighting, bring back gladiatorial combat.

People would watch that shit way more than faggy ass football

>>132572322
>a name fag calling an animal dumb

The irony

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>>132572322
>No its a dumb fucking animal and with out us would probably get eating by wolves.

then let it get eaten by wolves you stupid fucking shit

>Animals kill other animals and eat them

no shit, who gives a fuck?

>We just get some fun outta it.

way to show yourself as nigger-tier you stupid fucking spic

go fuck yourself and leech more off the welfare state you fucking moron

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This is animal abuse.

>>132572589
This, literally billions of dollars sitting on the table waiting for someone crazy enough to collect.
Plus with modern technology and engineering we could build some fucking crazy arenas and weapons.

>>132571891
>hunting a bear
>braver than bullfighting

How in the fuck.

You're literally hiding from a distance with a gun trying to take it down before it even has time to react. How is that braver than actually facing the animal up close with a considerably lesser weapon?

Ask an actual coward which they'd prefer to do. They'd be an idiot to go with the bullfighting.

Blood Sport
think about it

>>132565162
here's a sword. now go fight this pissed off animal that was bred to kill you.

>>132571582
Yes, it's morally wrong, but causing an extinction is also morally wrong.
If we stop bullfighting the bulls go extinct.
So by advocating for an end to bullfighting, you are advocating for the extinction of a species.

>>132565599
>eating foreign beef
>ever

enjoy those prions retard

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>>132565162
The life of a bull in a bullfighting program is similar to a gladiator's. The bull is doomed to be slaughtered and eaten regardless of the outcome of the fight, meaning if the ceremony with the matadors is not performed, they would instead be conveyor belted to their death.
A bull that shows exceptional bravery in its bout with the matadors will be pardoned by the crowd and will never fight again. It's literally the opposite of animal abuse, granting freedom and life to the strongest bulls, who would otherwise be killed and eaten if not given this opportunity.

>>132573121
You're much more likely to die hunting bears than "fighting" dying bulls.
If you fuck up your shot for example, congrats you just pissed off a killing machine that can run 30 miles per hour

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>>132573457
>but causing an extinction is also morally wrong.

what? this makes no sense

it's not our job to preserve a species that would otherwise have been extinct without our intervention

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>>132573540
>enjoy those prions retard
yes eat up
time for humans to leave
GTFO
soon

>>132574051
What, like Pandas?

>>132565162
Yes goys, we don't need any kind of bravery shows in Europe
Let's destroy this problematic european identity symbol and build mosques over the bullrings.
Those are not the kind of "bulls" we need in europe and the south european savages don't get demoralized fast enough.
t. Communist Party

>>132565162
Stop trying to kill one of the last masculine things Europe has because of animal rights faggotry, stop pussifying men with your bullshit.

>>132565162
>and you shall have dominion over the beasts of the earth

>>132565162
Fuck bulls, I like muh barbaric sport
I would be content with a hunger games style "show" (as long as criminals were the only ones in it)

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>>132565162

no, really, what did he mean by this?

>>132572751
dude ain't even skinny, he's just a cannibal killer.

>>132568809

thats no way to get aHEAD in life!

>>132565162
Bullfighting is a beautiful tradition, anon.

>>132574247
exactly like pandas

let them go extinct

i actually hate how stupid they are, humans only want to keep them alive because "they're too cute" to go extinct even though they're dumb as rocks

>>132570952
>hurr durr bulls are naturally far stronger and faster than a human but if the bull is weakened and the human has a weapon it's unfair

Neck yourself, you fucking retard.

>>132570674
>>132570469
There's a reason it's called getting gored.

>>132570047
top 10 most brutal anime deaths

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>>132573850
>"If you fuck up your shot for example, congrats you just pissed off a killing machine that can run 30 miles per hour"

What you don't think the bull is pissed off? Even if you miss the chances are the bear will just run away scared. The bull in comparison WILL be coming at you and WILL be pissed. A bull is bigger and faster than a bear.

You're seriously overestimating how weakened it is once stabbed and seem oblivious to the fact that the initial stabs are themselves part of the bullfighting ceremony (pic related).

>>132574610
Don't worry dad, we'll keep the tradition alive long after you become a caliphate.

>>132565599
It's not the fact that they're killing animals, it has more so to do with the fact that they're stabbing it repeatedly, and torturing it, for sport, then again, it's not even really a sport because they drug the bulls to slow them down anyways. They might as well just have criminals sentenced to death fight each other, the winners death got put off for 1 year.

>>132576167
This looks slow to you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZmrdCqm4_c

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>>132575281
>reading 7 Habits of Highly Effective Goat Herders
>current year

>>132576166
Lol what tradition? Eating snakes and raping corpses?? Or killing cats for smelling baby milk breath because they're trying to steal their soul?

>>132575481
I don't think it can be explained in words. You can describe a dance or a painting, but it won't give you the same feeling as seeing them. If you eat meat, maybe you should see a bullfight? It is undignified. It is brutal. It is ughly. But it is also heroic and when done well, it is dignified. And it is real. I'm sure it will be gone soon. And we will all be a little smaller because of that.

Just my 2 cents as a gringo who has been to the corrida in Mexico City/

>>132575741
Could we have panda fighting before we let them die out?
Or pandas versus bulls?

>>132576166
Mexico has bullfighting? I thought you guys only had roosters fight.

>>132573850

Hunting grizzlies with a single shot rifle would be pretty brave. But I bet you have never done it so why bring it up?

Most bear hunters hunt black bear that shit themselves at the sight of humans. Not brave at all

Viva España

>>132575741
Oh wait. Didn't you say you weren't advocating for extinction?

>>132576589
The tradition is very much alive in Mexico City. I think our larger cities near the border should have bullfighting too if you want to go check it out.

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>>132565162
(((they))) demonize bullfighting cause they're cucks.

t. literally bull worship

>>132565162
Why cant we replace it with something safer for both parties
Like bull prepping

>>132565162
>animal abuse
>bull has an equal chance to kill the fuck out of you
no this is honorable combat in the arena of man and beast, only one shall be given the title the most dangerous animal

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>>132575860
More like getting horned!

>>132577333
In a way, it is pornographic.

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>>132576779
letting =/= advocating

release them into the wild and see where their instincts take them

jesus you are literally as a dumb as a panda unless you're just trolling me this entire time being insistently stupid

>>132565162
Listen you retard, bulls are useless, they dont need a lot of them so these ones would just be killed off anyways because youre not gonna feed it until it dies of old age, it cant make a profit that way. Unless you could make a profit selling them to bullfighting shows.

>>132577975
There's probably a lot more profit in raising them for the meat market. Fighting bulls need to be nurtured and trained. Bulls raised for meat just have to be fed and driven to the slaughterhouse.

>>132565162
>EU still allows this
>Bans seal imports from Canada
Fuck the EU

>>132573726
Dont fucking lie pedro. If the bull wins the fight, it will still get salughtered after the fight.

>>132577900
Your pedantry isn't clever you know.

Viva España

>>132578536
Bull meat kind of sucks and not prefered. Too much test and their hormones makes the meat tough. Cow meat is softer and easier to eat.

>>132579969
And this as well. That the meat is "given to the poor" is no great act of kindness.

>>132577975
Then just kill them painlessly with slaughterhouse methods you dense piece of shit

>>132576326

Its true, most of the time they give them sedatives and sometimes even alcohol to dumb them down.

>>132565162
I never understood what the interest of that : you know the beast will die 99,9999%. So there is no suspense.
You just look at some westernized sandniggers dressed like a faggot torture a bull for hours. I wish it will be prohibited in south of france

>>132566311
Are you even fascist?

>>132574610
"b-but muh tradishun!!!"

>>132576091

This is cheating the dude is using an armored horse for fucks sake.

>>132577900
You realize you won't get rid of humans impact on the outcome if you liberated them, right?

It's like you think humans taking over 80% of the inhabitable world does not impact nature or something.

>>132565162

It is animal abuse, but whether one enjoys animal abuse means literally nothing, because animals are completely expendable unless their owner objects to their treatment.

>>132578734
I see you're not very skilled when it comes to reading comprehension. Let me reiterate:
The bull is doomed to be slaughtered and earen regardless of the outcome of the fight. If it wasnt put in the ring to fight, it would be killed and eaten as well.
By fighting, it has a chance to show its bravery. If the crowd deems a bull brave enough, his life is spared. If it is not, it will be killed and eaten, even if it wins.

>>132565162

As long as they eat it afterwards its honorable.

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Is it moorish or european in its origins?

>>132565162

Bullfighting isnt animal abuse because spanish are worse than animals and only a few of them gets killed every year,

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>>132575861
He didn't die by that one, too badass

>>132576091
thats just not fair

>>132565162
>Spaniards are honorable
said no one ever

>>132587071
Roman.

>>132565162
Battle between man and beast. It's primal conflict, there is no such thing as 'abuse'.

>>132565162
fuck (((bulls))). its symbolic of gutting that nigger moloch.

>>132565599
>Anarcho-Capitalist flag
>Thinks that slaughterhouses are animal abuse
You should be using the hippy flag, or better yet just use your leaf flag you fucking faggot.

>>132565162
Bulls are aggressive but they almost never kill each other, unlike the humans.
Humans involve the bulls in their nasty game for ego boosting entertainment.

>>132565162
It's badass but why do they have to dress so gay?

>>132587925
hey why this hate with spanish?

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>>132588895
Having that donkey grants you at least one (you)
>>132565162
And this is animal abuse indeed, there could be non-killing bull fights but there is a big business in there; for the bull farms it's more profitable
to raise and send 40~50 bulls per year to the events than send the 5~10 same bulls for several years. They have huge state aids because of
the ties with the far right (wich still has power in some layers of society) and noone brings the debate about changing the bull fights to a
non-killing event, but the retarded leftist that protest only know to chain themselfs into shit or yell like autistic pieces of garbage.

Pic related; some leftist trying to stop a bull race by chaining some of them in the trail. the people didn't gave a fuck and released the bull anyway