how did the most powerful country in the world lose to malnourished

>>132554822
Hippies

not so powerful after all

>>132554822
How many north Vietnamese die?
How many Americans die?

>>132554822
Because they weren't willing to/allowed to do what was necessary to win: genocide.
Same reason there's still so much trouble in the Middle East.

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>>132554822
This picture is depressing. We lost 60k Americans and slaughtered a million or so poor gooks for literally no reason.

>>132554822
Guerrilla warfare against people fighting for their families? Gee I fucking wonder how.
The only good thing that came of that war is being able to make liberals who claim a civil war is impossible look like morons.

>>132554822
>how did the most powerful country in the world lose to malnourished rice farmers?
We weren't actually allowed to fight. If we had been, North Vietnam would have become a steaming hole in the ground.

>1 post by this id

We-ell, technically they didn't. The Tet Offensive was the last serious resistance the NVA managed to put up. After that, it was all over but the crying.

Americans are simply moral cowards and fat lazy incompetent shits who cannot even win a war they've already won.

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The only people who lost were millions of Vietnamese that lost their lives and livelihood
Rip Vietnamese rice paddies you are still the most aesthetic farmland to me

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>>132554822

>>132555644
This. We should push for Roman style conquest.

Also, all the
>BUT THEY DIDN'T LET US FIGHT PROPERLY
in this thread is fucking retarded.

The US dropped more bombs on Vietnam than it did on Germany and Japan. The US military was given a lot of leash. It's nobody's fault but America's that America hanged itself with that leash.

America DID defeat the Vietnamese. It just couldn't make it stick because as soon as actual politics are involved and not just throwing bombs out of planes the American diplomatic corps collapses in a pile of shit pants.

And this proud tradition continues today.

>>132555319
How many Soviets died?
How many Germans?

Wow looks like Germany won..

o-oh wait

>>132554822
play rising storm 2 and find out

>>132554822
on average vietnamese are about 15 points higher than americans

also being less fed and generally much more fit due to the geography they were more able fighters

its very hard to fight an apponent that can run circles around you both physically and mentally

i'm surprised the USA even went to war after such a humiliating defeat, but then again it might be the reason why

We weren't supposed to win, we were supposed to waste money. Thats why WaPo went after Nixon because he left before he was supposed to.

>>132556506
>vietnamese are about 15 points higher than americans

Only a leaf would think you can win a war by getting high.

it was a proxy war with russia to stop the domino effect. We got what we needed out of it long term (as we did in korea) and it cost russia and vietnam dearly.

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>vietnam owes the US 56 billion
>coca cola owns all their sugar

we didnt lose shit, dumbass

>>132555139
/thread

why are people still replying?

Because of a devious Jew named Kissinger. The military won the victory and he gave it away like a good Bolshevik.

>>132557058
Posting without reading

>>132554822
We were fighting in foreign territory over reasons that most soldiers would find elusive after the patriotism wears off.

The Viet Cong were fighting in their homeland. They actually had a legitimate reason to die for their country.

>>132555644
>Because they weren't willing to/allowed to do what was necessary to win: genocide.
Carpet bombing and the use of napalms/chemical warfare was actually used in the Vietnam war.

Practices that today are all banned.

Vietnamese had been fighting imperialist armies successfully thousands of years in the future.

>>132555319
>but hillary has more votes than trump

>>132556362
Poland had more deaths per capita than either of those.

>>132554822
You stopped funding the rice farmers in the south after you went back. Thus fucking over any maintenace of the wins we gained. Being from a family who got their shit taken just because we were ethnically chinese was shit. Though I guess /pol/ would agree with that action, given their belief in racial nationalism, or maybe they would'nt since they were commies and took shit from any bourgeoisie too. Too answer that question of whether we were bourgeoisie or not, yes, we were business owners, but it was a a family run general store, with no non-family employees. To think the democrats fucked over and caused more oppression of a racial minority for the sake of vietnamese nationalism.

>>132557058
Because it wasn't this simple. Most conventional armies end up losing to unconventional armies that use guerrilla tactics.

>American revolution
>Irish independence
>Afghanistan (every fucking time)
>Vietnam
etc

>>132554822
further proof that a well armed populace cannot be subjugated by conventional mean

2nd amendment fags would use vietnam as evidence for why we need guns

>>132557058
>nazi flag
>worships a one-balled vegan hippie left cuck
>pretends to hate hippies

Most northern Vietnamese are actually descended from people from south China, while southern Vietnamese are descended more from chams and austronesians.

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>>132558679
This will always be relevant.

Heroin

>>132555319
Take out the 1.5 million civilian casualties and see how good of an argument you have LMAO

>>132554822

No Colonel Kurts with 5 battalions of men to act without judgement and slice of kids' arms that were just inoculated for polio.

Because wars of insurgency are incredibly different from conventional warfare. Vietnam war is the best argument for the 2nd amendment ever.

>>132555139
No it wasn't you complete idiot. Stop spreading this absolute myth. UN did NOT allow US to enter North Vietnam, let alone Cambodia nor Laos. You cannot win against enemy who can keep sending units at you and operate all around you.

So sad a danish person know more about US history than an american. FFS

Same way the country that lost defeated the most powerful country on Earth in defense of their independence.

Guerrilla warfare is rough.

Morale
/thread

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>>132554822
>the hippies wouldn't let us
kek, americans ate shit from those guerillas. they thought they could have their dick and win, but the guerrillas were fast as lightning and they couldn't keep up

>>132555139
>the fall of saigon happened because of hippies

S-sure

is now vietnam a communist country?

>>132554822
Research Gorilla warfare, summer fag.

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We lost to pieces of shit like pic related, not the commies they were coddling. Because of that, millions in Southeast Asia were murdered or had to flee for their lives.

>he's also one of the worst secretaries of state of all time

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>>132559831
They only "won" because the popular opinion was swayed against the war in the West. We could of pulled out at the same time exactly the same way, and with less niggers and faggots shitting up the collective consciousness, and it could of been considered a overwhelming victory. We did win every battle and had a kill ratio of like 1:150
Because of hippies and niggers we abandoned millions of South Vietnamese to be killed the nva.

>>132558305
That's because Poland was unfortunate enough to get spitroasted by Hitler's steamy war machine and Stalin's throbbing newly-industrialized tractor factories from both ends.

>>132554822
>>one post by this id
stop repying u niggers

>>132556362

Lol. Cot damn sir, btfo

because the US drafted a bunch of poor people who gave no fucks about Vietnam, most had probably never even heard about, and sent them against ideological zealots who truly believed in what they were fighting for.

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>>132561066
All the loss and emotions aside,
we shouldn't have been there anyway
fuck France.

Sorry France, this isn't about you, really, but...

fuck france.

>>132556016
Pretty much this. It's why I hate a lot of my fellow 'Mercans.

this meme needs to die, they weren't malnourished rice farmers, they were a professional army with state of the art soviet arms, and depot's across the border in China we couldnt touch.
We did win the war however. We left the south had their own country, but they couldnt hold it once the american troops were gone.

>>132556276
Pretty much this. Good post, leaf

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>>132561373
Maybe the US should never have gone there if we lacked the tenacity to see it through.

On the other hand, people like Lee Kuan Yew said that the Vietnam war stalled the communists long enough for the Pacific Rim to get its shit together and be able to protect itself from the Red Tide.

>>132561126
>1:150
If you include the innocent civilians we killed.

>>132554822
That is what happens when you underestimate your opponent.

Be American ---> LOL low IQ rice farmer fuckers

proceed to get their asses handed to them

The Vietnamese didn't view us as human. As such, any and all means were justified in removing us from their homeland. The USA lost because most soldiers couldn't abandon their empathy, and those who could were hamstrung by military regulations.

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>>132562171
The communists barely even saw their own people as human.

>>132556362
Wow, it's like we're not talking about the vietnam war.

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>>132562171
Pamphlets like this probably didn't help.

>>132562171
It wasn't a military defeat, you moron. The US didn't lose a single battle in Vietnam.
There also wasn't a frontline, and the US never tried to push into North Vietnam.

>>132558679
The only reason you need is:
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

He makes that tiny rifle look big

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>>132563723
That is the glorious Soviet SKS Rifle. It makes any man look tiny in its presence.

From the replies, it's obvious that many here think the VC and NVA were the same fighting force. No wonder there is so many ignorant comments.

>>132554822
Because god awful tactics. Instead of conquering the battle fields that we won we got called back to our bases only for the Congo to take back those battle fields again and learn from their mistakes.

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>>132559526
Where the flying fuck did you get 1.5 million civilian casaulities from?
Btw the number of deaths in my source arent including civilians
We won nearly every battle we fought in vietnam

>>132554822
Also those "malnourished farmers" were given billions of rounds of ammo, tens of millions of weapons, tens of thousands of artillery pieces, generals and intel from the second and third largest militaries (china, russia) and they also had homefield advantage and they STILL got their shit kicked in LMAO

>>132564067
(you)

>>132556501
Ow hohms ah safe!

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>>132554822
Because they didn't invade the US mainland or any of its territories.

>>132554822
I'm sure if I looked harder into this, there would be some connection that the Rothschilds played a part in this war and also I wouldn't doubt that they died & lost for (((reasons)))

>>132555656
How else could we have found out the problems with the M16?

Gotta try out the new toys some how. May as well be third world.

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>>132554822
norks don't put up with jews, niggers, and/or faggots. does this need to be spelled out? they want to watch the world burn. or at least kim jong kewpie does. idk.

>>132554822
How many times has this thread been posted? The World may never know...

>>132554822
Because we were fighting the idea of communism, not a people. Ideas can't be killed.

>>132559943
So sad you believe in the meme that the US lost at all and still try to act like a sanctimonious douchebag.

>>132554822
GI GO HOME

>>132570833
Yet here we are fighting the war on terror many moons later.