>"I own an AR-15 assault rifle to defend myself myself

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SHALL

No, they own AR-15 to not go down without a fight.

>>132462147
>fighting drones and tanks with a semi auto peashooter

>>132462231
There are more gun owners than PGM's in the entire US arsenal.

>>132461992
If someone tries to come down to my house and arrest me for saying "fuck sandniggers" on the internet, I can shoot them. You however would let them in, after all, you wouldn't want to lose would you?

>>132462147
>>132462134
Let me help you, before replying to stupid posts take a look at that flag at the top. Now ask yourselves, should I really be humoring a leaf?

>>132462147
Armed resistance does nothing. That missile isnt aimed at a rebel, its going to hit a logistical facility.

Modern cities are hilariously easy to bleed to death. Comfort seeking burgers will capitulate faster than french

>drones can man road blocks and perform house to house raids
burgerland cannot be taken by any army. even it's own.

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>>132462311
Stop pretending. You end up like pic related and your pretend freedom amounts to nothing.

Oh look, this thread again. What's the point of these? We've already debunked this argument a hundred times over.

>>132462612
ah okay, bootlicker.

>>132461992
>>132462231
you can still easily kill local cops

>Bomb the fuck out of your own citizens

This seems like a great idea. I'm sure that obliterating entire city blocks in hellfire will win the hearts and minds of your subjects and also won't fucking cripple the economy. I'm sure the whole world will just sit and watch as America wipes its own people out for no good reason.

>>132461992
All that fancy gear sure made the Vietnamese and Afghans do what Washington wanted right? Fucking leaf

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>>132462583
forgot pic

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>>132462727
Snake blood tastes good, what can I say?
>he had no rebuttal

>>132462231
Guerrilla warfare you leaf

>>132462583
Drones will destroy McDonalds/food transports and napalm will do away with fields.

Nobody was going to conquer japan thanks to the reasons you listed, you can starve the population to the breaking point with ease. Winning a war doesnt require killing

>>132461992
You may have missed the part where Americans get to own weapons, AR-15s included, to defend their home and property from criminals.

Not to mention simply going to the range and having a good time.

Go back to your Molson.

>>132462770
I didn't realize Washington wanted to genocide the vietnamese and afghans.
I thought they were trying to set up local puppet governments

>the US fights insurgencies by just drone striking random buildings

>>132462231
>drones and tanks perform house to house searches
>American soldiers turning on American citizens
Not a very smart fellow, are you?

>>132462809
>Starve your own fucking country to death
>To beat your own country in a war

I'm fucking flabbergasted.

>>132462325
>I don't know the first thing about American gun ownership, military culture and political leanings the post
I thought you slant eyed fucks are supposed to be smart?

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>>132462887
it unironically does though

>>132462796
I hear it goes great with african semen.

>>132462922
They wouldn't be considered American citizens, they'd be considered insurgents.

>>132462878
Did it work? I don't get what your argument is here.

Someone post that image about half the military would rebel etc. We get threads like this every few months thinking they were the first to think of this.

>>132461992
my flag is proof that drones can't win wars

>>132461992
That looks expensive.

>>132462960
>to beat your own country in a war

Do you know what a civil war is?

>>132463001
>this makes a difference

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>>132461992
>>132462134
>step 1. shoot drone operator
>step 2. ????
>step 3. profit

>>132461992

that's not why I own a gun

Our guns are to kill niggers and liberals, not fight the military.

>>132462994
Dunno, I'm not the one that sits by while Africans fuck my women because muhhh freedom muhhh liberty muhhh private citizen

>>132463022
>We get threads like this every few months thinking they were the first to think of this.

Nah, it's just people getting easy (You)s from really old bait. Nobody who posts this shit actually believes it, because you'd have to be legitimately retarded and have no understanding of warfare, government or weaponry to actually think the US government could wage what amounts to infinite warfare against its own people forever.

>>132462960
Yes, rebels or their affiliates are no use to the government. They dont pay taxes so might well do away with them

>>132462971
Your guns wont create food, electricity, medicine or other basic needs like fuel. These are the things that will get shutdown.

Try eating 45 fatso

>>132463001
lol @ thinking the actual combat forces in the military are on the side of gun grabbers

>>132461992
I'm really inteterested in hearing how you suppose the deep state groups are going to pilot jets, apcs, tanks, fire and control missiles and various munitions, all without any soldiers or pilots.

>>132463084
It does
Oathkeeper is a meme. Your fagsden flag doesn't change that.

>>132462977
It doesn't though. To get any kind of approval to drone strike a random house is a giant pain in the balls. Almost impossible if you aren't actively taking fire from it.

>>132463181
They wouldn't see them as gun grabbers
lol @ not understanding the concept of propaganda

>>132463202
Please see>>132463146

>>132462806
>when you want to gorrila war but in Kansas

>>132463307
Why? "infinite warfare against its own people" isn't the scenario.

>>132463139
Was that afro-phobia I detected? You could get a few years in prison for that in some places.

>>132461992

How'd that work out in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan? All they had were AK's and you still lost.

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Get redpilled on a thing called "revolutionary warfare"

It's something the US failed to defeat in Vietnam, despite all it's efforts. And also keeps failing to defeat in Afghanistan/Iraq for more than a decade now.

https://parallelnarratives.com/the-three-stages-of-maos-revolutionary-warfare/

The millitary is designed to fight againt's another conventional millitary, not againts civilians. The millitary CANNOT fight againts its own citizens effectively. Whether it be due to the constraint of weapons or the fact that soldiers will simply REFUSE TO FIRE on their own people.

>>132463165
>The rebels will all conveniently and helpfully gather in a single spot
>Obliterating your OWN FUCKING NIGGERING SHITFUCKING INFRASTRUCTURE will ensure obedience and loyalty from the non-hostile citizenry because ?????systemerror

You're absolutely, positively, 100% fucking retarded, Finland. Never once in history has a nation won a war by committing suicide. That's Canadian thinking.

>>132463057
This wouldn't be a civil war, it would be an insurgency. There's a big, gaping difference. You're essentially saying the US government can wage war against itself forever. History has shown the US military can hardly even wage war against literally retarded sandniggers who fuck little boys and goats, but they'll somehow manage to fight against the entire citizenry of the US, as well as their own rebelling military, and also outside influences like Russia supplying the rebels? Because they're fucking wizards?

>>132463165
You still are being a retarded half gook man, you think any of the couple thousand militias rely on super markets and cities for their plans? You really think the US military isn't going to split and fight amongst itself as is in a civil war scenario? Do you really a country many time the size of yours is going to be able to be locked down period? Again you don't know shit.

>>132461992
If you were right the U.S. wouldn't have lost a single soldier in the last decade.

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>>132461992
you dumb. fuck.

>>132461992
Yes because the entire military would support the government in case of civil war.

I fucking hate leafs holy shit.

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>>132461992

>not owning a rifle capable of of hitting low flying aircraft

Tippity-Top!

>>132461992

>"Those silly colonists would never stand a chance against the advanced weaponry and tactics of the British empire"

>"Those Vietnamese would never be able to stand against the might of the US"

etc etc etc

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>>132463343
report me to the internet police, liberal

>>132463386
it doesn't matter what name you call it, they're still not gonna be considered "their own citizens"
>saying the US government can wage war against itself forever
No I'm saying the US government could systematically exterminate all of the retarded, gaptoothed, AR-waving faggots larping about being free.

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>>132461992
You're right, they need drones in addition to their AR-15's, clearly.

>>132463672
>No I'm saying the US government could systematically exterminate all of the retarded, gaptoothed, AR-waving faggots larping about being free.

>US government can't even manage itself
>US military is full of gaptoothed, AR-waving faggots
>US government can't effectively wage war on chinks in funny hats or goat fucking subhumans
>No I'm saying the US government could systematically exterminate all of the retarded, gaptoothed, AR-waving faggots larping about being free.

Alright, Captain Retard. Have fun.

>>132463386
>Its a suicide

It isnt, its a massacre. Your side is still alive and well while others are fucked. Few cities might turn to ash and couple More gets fucked but AMERICA will live on. Infrastructure can be rebuilt.

>Loyalty
Its over rated, there is always distrust after a civil war but life goes on. Its not the end of the world.

>>132463417
Yes, military isnt going to split. There is no way military will side on illegitimate rebellion, youd have to create doomsday strawman for that to happen. Military is govt first, they side with the people who pay wages and distribute ammo.

>Can be locked down
Yes, 60 years ago you did it with Japan and germany while they were a sea away. It can and will be done.

Dont discredit your amazing potential to wage war america

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>>132462231
kys cancuck

>>132463802
US military is full of soldiers loyal to the people who sign their paychecks and look after their family's well-being
I already told you once that oathkeepers is a meme. Pay attention, bitch.

>US government can't even manage itself
Yeah the current X party administration is so incompetent, be sure to vote for Y party next election, they'll fix everything and set us on the right track.
How does it feel falling for the simplest jew in the book?

>>132463804
There won't be "sides" you mongoloid Finngolian cunt. Insurgencies don't have clear cut sides. Instead, you'll have intermingled rebels and resistance fighters everywhere, constantly waging a war from within until the end of time. There will be no fucking way for America to do this, especially in the age of the internet.

What, you think the pussy nigger politicians are gonna keep their cool when they see their colleagues being beheaded by chainsaws in 4k videos uploaded to fucking LiveLeak? You think the soldiers are gonna keep fighting when every street corner could be a death trap? You think the war will be a war, and not just the most horrific, drawn out murderfest of all time? You think the Russians and Chinese won't send fuckloads of black ops agents to train, arm and prepare resistance fighters like the US has done a million times?

>>132463344
unpopular war. if the US bombed like a 1000 people a day the media would go crazy.
The government would never bomb its own citizens. unless its a total civil war.and even then the war would be extremely unpopular

>>132463894
>he fell for reuters clickbait image and didn't read his own pic

>>132461992
Ashkenazi jew detected. They're the only ones pushing this "hoard your guns... the government will nuke you" meme. It's like they want to kill us all or something

>>132462971
be realistic, modern cities are hilariously easy to bleed to death. Comfort seeking burgers will capitulate faster than french

>>132463998
>>132463998
Most wars in 1st world countries have had sides

Ie civil wars in spain,US and finland

>Things that wont happen
No need to fight door to door when you can starve the population, its a waste.

>>132463804
I was military zipperhead, no one does it because they love the govt and no one does combat arms for the money. You're thinking about the losers who spec as glorified gas pumpers, wheeled drivers and warehouse workers. Boy, that'd sure be an effective fighting force.

>>132463098
How do you plan on shooting the drone operator?

>>132463998
>you'll have intermingled rebels and resistance fighters everywhere, constantly waging a war from within until the end of time.
Interesting premise, have you considered writing a fantasy novel on it?

I bet all this delusion is coming from some kinda "1/3 Americans own a gun" meme or some shit, and you think that means they're gonna "fight the powa"?

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>>132464102
>The government would never bomb its own citizens.

>>132461992
>flag

Sage

>>132463360
>this post will go unnoticed because it BTFO the gungrabbers

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>>132461992
Congrats leaf. I honestly didn't think people would be stupid enough to fall for the same thread for the 1,000th time but you proved me wrong. Maybe I'll get lucky and some of these morons will ignore your thread next time but that's unlikely. I tip my fedora to you.

>>132462806
Isn't this kinda why Afghanistan is unconquerable?

>>132464278
step 1: use camo mylar bag to hide heat
step 2: watch where drones come and go
step 3: aim and shoot

>>132464172
American cities are filled with liberals that voted away their rights. Just like I told the zipperhead, the cities are 100% irrelevant.

>>132461992
Worst straw man ever please GTFO sage!

>>132463973
>Their family's wellbeing

Interesting thought you have there, champ. These soldiers are simultaneously murderous sociopaths who are willing to gun down their own families... but are also concerned enough for their own families to betray their countrymen? That's a little odd, almost contradictory even!

>>132464195
>Starve the population
>Starve yourself and your soldiers at the same time

Absolutely ingenious. Holy fuck, who would have thought that simply not eating and letting yourself fucking die would be the best course of action in conflict?

>>132464287
The US military has 1.5 active personnel. That's not soldiers, that's total personnel. As in every single employee of the US military.

The United States, as a nation, has 310,000,000 people. About half of those are white, so 150,000,000 white men and women (assuming no non-whites join in). 75,000,000 men. Let's assume that only 10% of those men fight, so still 7.5 million men. Also, the majority of the military would almost instantly disband...

So you have a good 10 million people fighting against maybe 500,000. This seems like a bit of a bad fight for the government.

>>132464345
context.

where the fuck is that?

because if you honestly think that, say, syria has the same standards of govt as the us you're utterly retarded

>>132464356
no it doesn't, because he's a retard who thinks America was actually TRYING to defeat the insurgents.
>uh oh al-qaeda's basically gone.... whoops, where'd ISIS come from??? wow....

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Fucking leaf
SAGED

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbqf201kkaM

>>132463657
wtf is that dumb bitch even doing god damn what the actual jesus fucking h Christ fuck me dead oh god damn it all to hell you bastards you blew it up

>>132464451
>1.5 active personnel
yes, typo, but this brings to mind one soldier and a guy with no legs being the whole of the us army

>>132464533
>The entire US military is a guy in a wheelchair with an AR-15 and a volunteer pushing him

>>132464511
probably some malnourished waif who can barely hold that fucking rifle

or someone with no experience with a gun

notice that they clearly fear it, they close their eyes and wince before the trigger pulls, they even pull their head back from the scope

like what, is that a g3? it's a big round, but that's overreacting to a retarded extent.

>>132464451
>Being this retarded
Starving enemy population doesnt imply starving your own retard. US is a big fucking place

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>>132462231
If you told me to fight a tank and gave me the option of being armed with an AR-15 or going armed with my fists I can tell you my option would be for the rifle.

>>132464629
fuck, i meant to say "7.62mm is a big round", not implying that the rifle itself is a fucking bullet

>>132464451
>willing to gun down their own families
>their own families
>their own
Why are you retarded?

>Let's assume that only 10% of those men fight
>Also, the majority of the military would almost instantly disband
>Let's make up fantasy conditions so my side wins XD how can you even refute?

Is this because you're Australian and your entire country is centered on a couple of coastlines?

>>132463165
>>132462809
How are they going to do that when the gun owners are also the property owners and farmers? How are they going to remove the massive food stocks that are already here? The instant the government tried to start shit, farmers, gardeners, and preppers would go into overdrive creating and distributing food.
>fires, chemical agents
>what is preservation
>what are preppers
>what is smuggling thru Mexico and Canada
If the beaners can do it we can do it better.

>>132464663
finnigger get the fuck out

you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about

>>132461992
Worked so well in Iraq and Afghanistan eh?
Now replace retarded sandniggers with ex military people who organized themselves in militias and go to shooting ranges multiple times a week.

>>132464463
>context
9/11

>>132464102

everybody would just shout fake media - no harm done.

>>132462231

You can't hold ground with drones you fucking retarded leaf

>>132464487
fuck off commie, use some common sense if you have any.
The whole US military could not defeat an insurgency of 1million(only 1/400 people, much less than real predictions) people when more than half the personnel abandon their posts and bring as much equipment as they can with them. Tanks and drones arent so good now that they can be destroyed. Also the government will not just go around destroying houses indiscriminately, this will work the population up against the government for an even larger insurgency make their loss more and more insured.
Fuck off faggot i live in the UK, you have no idea how much safer the an armed population would be here.
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>>132464840
nigger you honestly believe 9/11 was an inside job?

that's an advanced level of autism

weapons are useless against tyranny these days but not because of drones
tyranny has become subtle enough people don't actually WANT to fight against it, they don't want to give up their current comforts to protect the rights that are being taken away one by one.

And when the time comes the government won't come for your weapons and take them by force, it'll simply ask politely and you'll agree it's for the better.

Sure some will refuse but they'll be so few in numbers it's entirely possible to have them disappear without to much fuss.

>>132464778
Airforce, HE,Chemical agents and BTRRRR. You got all these and maps about warehouses and farms. You just have to deliver the payload


Checkmate faggot

>>132464764
The majority of the military would disband instantly, you mongoloid faggot. You do know that just saying "lol ur wrong ;)" isn't actual argumentation, right? The absolute vast majority of US soldiers are right wing/libertarian types. You'd know this if you spoke to any of them, ever. The ENTIRE FUCKING US MILITARY is 1.5 million people. You cannot, under any circumstance, ever hope to fucking control a nation of THREE HUNDRED MCFUCKING MILLION PEOPLE with something like 500,000 or less fighting troops.

>>132464663
>Tactically destroy farms that only supply your enemies
>People wouldn't hide that they are aiding and supplying the rebels
>There would be zero foreign aid or intervention in this conflict

Absolutely retarded. Thoroughly fucking braindead.

>>132463672
Half the army would defect.

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>>132464778
>he thinks "the gun owners" = "everyone who would participate in an insurgency against the US government"

The vast majority of gun owners are people who bought a peashooter so they can put down niggers who try to rob them.
All the bigger guns are concentrated in a small portion, who usually own multiple because muhh freedom, meaning even less bodies.
And from that small portion, only a small portion would have the balls to fight in genuine open warfare against the US government.

thus the result is pic related

>>132464487

Lol at people that think the wars in the middle east are about anything but making raytheon and lockheed martin filtyh rich. Oh yeah, the war is within measurable distance of its end.

>>132464608
that's probably what pogs and supply chain monkey think about frontline MoS people, though

>>132464948
Do like these threads though. Gun grabbers always get BTFO.

>>132465072
This is false
Oathkeeper is a meme.

>>132464962
unfortunately, this.

>>132465146
>this is false
>provides no source
lamow

>>132465103
yeah I'm sure 4% of 160 million is not enough to fight a mostly conservative military who would all instantly turn left leaning and facist because some guy in an office 1000 miles away told them to


great thinking

>>132464948
>when more than half the personnel abandon their posts
Why do you keep making things up and pretending it's a valid argument?

>>132465034
DHS did a report not long ago, they suspect a near 60% defection in their worse projections if I remember correctly. They also suspect lots of people will stick around to sabotage their efforts against the rebels. Last thing US govt wants is to fight because they will lose.

>>132465034
>The majority of the military would disband instantly
see>>132465264

>>132465146
Your a moron if you believe that. Have you ever served? Do you know any one in the army? I am guessing no.

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>>132461992
>I own a musket to defend myself against the government

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>>132464962
This. People don't want to fight, they're subdued.

>>132464511
>wtf is that dumb bitch even doing god damn what the actual jesus fucking h Christ fuck me dead oh god damn it all to hell you bastards you blew it up
She need glasses so her eye relief is all fucked up. She's using the focal distance spacing to get a clear picture.

Either because she can't adjust the scope for focus or doesn't know how.

>>132465034
>Aid
With what? Food from empty super market lmao?

And yes, there wouldnt be any interventions. World trade relies on US so its in countries best interest not to.

>Lets aid straight up combatants on US soil just for luls
Get nuked

>implying aid will get through anyways
>Implying thousand tons of cargo will come unnoticed
Either its in large scale or too small to even be a real threat to US

>>132465202
>he thinks there's supposed to be a source for why his made-up theory is made-up

I explained why it's not the case earlier in the thread, find it and read

>>132465314
Just because your a fucking pussy dose not mean most people are. If the government starts genociding their fucking family's you dont think some of the brass would rebel?

I might not have an ar-15 but I have a glock and it's got a bigger bullet

>>132464799
Even niggers shooting sideways have better accuracy than dune-coons doing the upside down over the head backwards shot.

>>132465247
>who would all instantly turn left leaning and facist
They willingly joined their government's military, they're already as "facist" as they need to be.

and
>4%
try lower

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>>132465426
You know most Americans in the country side can live off the land right? You know the states is fucking huge?

>>132465378
Heck gun rights, as they are, are beneficial to tyranny.
A population that believes it's government fears what it could do is actually quite easy to control.
They believe that because they have guns the government can never take away their rights, so when said government comes up with a plausible excuse to take them away, they'll swallow it up.

>>132465466
>their family's
Why would it be their families?
If they're closely related to the insurgents themselves then they're probably already on their side, so yeah it's not unlikely they'd join

>>132465445
Soldiers would kill their own people. Use common sense.

>>132465628
>Live off the land
Great, now you have less time and people to fight back!

Good luck supporting your communities off that though. Youre not going to find oil, meds or electricity from the land though

>>132465741
>their own people
Try again, faggot.

>>132465682
no one here thinks that
even the leftys don't think like that

>>132461992
It worked pretty decently for the Taliban.

>>132465784
>makes one grammatical mistake
>lol bad argument XDDDD
fuck off commie scum

>>132465722
If the government trys to take the guns away from the populace then it would be a civil war. Your talking about a few hillbillys trying take over the government there is a huge difference.

>>132465775
>Farmers cant secretly give supplies to rebels
>Rebels are indistinguishable from normal populace
Tell me again how they would run out ?

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>>132464487
I mean they are trying to defeat them pretty hard. Trump's massive bombardment campaign has been pretty severe, and ISIS is on the retreat.

This just proves my point. As soon as ISIS started actually taking territory and started fightning conventional warfare instead of guerilla warfare, they started losing pretty quickly.

But they will simply revert to phase 2 or even phase 1 of Mao's revolutionary warfare model - meaning they will revert to guerilla warfare and the cycle will continue.

Also Al-Qaida isint "basically gone". They are more powerful than ever. They have managed to implant themselves in the mainstream opposition in syria and are seen as *legitimate opposition* in the muslim world. That's not even mentioning all their branches in Somalia, Yemen, Arabian Peninsula and West Africa - they have been notoriously active recently.

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>>132465834
What grammar mistake? Wtf?

I'm saying they wouldn't consider them their own people.

As is so often the case, y'all are seeing the problem but missing the meaning and the solution.

The most powerful weapon we have isn't the AR-15, it's the general strike. A sufficiently organized working class could bring a tyrannical government to its knees after a few days of general strike action.

>>132466018
he has a british flag on, I think he actually might be british

>>132465834
All Libtards revert to making fun of grammar when shit posting.It is as if they think they are in a real debate and not just joking around fuck I hate them,.

>>132465948
>Cant farm because fields are fucked
>Stashes run out or get destroyed
I bet youre a libtard who thinks commodities come from thin air

>>132465936
>then it would be a civil war
Explain why it isn't happening, then, even though they've been taking guns since the last civil war, which the libertarian-fags lost hard

>>132461992
>what is gorilla warfare

>>132466018
The soldiers would though because they are in fact humans( weird concept for you ) they have feelings and killing the people they signed up to protect won't go down well.

>>132461992
hello im GI Joe and my brother and i are currently serving and we like the vast majority of other servicemen are right wingers who swore an oath to uphold the Constitution and if push ever came to shove we would desert and side with the communities from whence we came . we are not conscripts pressed into service so fuck off with your stupid fucking thread

>>132466104
>Government would destroy it's own infrastructure and economy
lmao, government soldiers need food too

>>132466125
what guns did they take away?

>>132465103
>people defending their lives against tyrannical forces executing their families
>insurgency
pick one, turboautist. What, do you think the government has a magic politics detector? Orders not to fire on lefties?
>peashooters
Oh boy you probably believe the .22 is useless meme. Besides that, your statement there is just objectively false.

This is all obviously ignoring the fact that the military would be crippled beyond belief. According to their numbers, most of the military would immediately defect if the government became tyrannical and commanded attacks on US citizens. You would have no footsoldiers, pilots, etc.

>>132466051
good luck with that mate, you'll need it

>>132466125
They are not taking the guns away by force you twit.

>>132466157
>because they are in fact humans
Ah of course, we all know propaganda has no effect on the stalwart "human".

>the people they signed up to protect
Nigger they signed up to either pay off loans or kill muslims

The ones who sign up to protect people are the local police

>>132461992
blatant slide thread, stop bumping you cunts

>>132465784
The military is made up of a subset of people that are generally vastly different in temperament and ideology to the general population.

If you want to have an effective military force you always run the risk of the military force being able to say yeah no fuck this, why don't we do it this way and making it stick.

In commie shitholes the military force is first a state police forces and second a national defense force. They can't have the people able to lead and follow with top level combat ability in the military and instead replace them with trust worthy (loyal to the government) incompetents.

The US military spends way too much time fighting to get by with loyal drones rather than quality* soldiers.

So the only chance you get for the US military fighting the people is to end a commie (leftist) uprising, and most of the lefttards don't have firearms to start with.

The US military isn't going to fight the conservative aspect of the US population, it would be fighting itself.

* On average.

>>132466238
22 is useless?
do you shoot deer with your 22?

>>132466226
All the guns you're not allowed to have today

You don't have gun rights, you have gun privileges

>>132466278
You clearly have never been patriotic in your life.
I would have joined the military to protect my country had i not had asthma. And by country i mean people not the government.
>inb4 i'm a nazbol
no your all the same

>>132466367
so
machine guns made after 86 is a lot to you?

>>132461992
If the government became corrupt it would be the military themselves that overthrows it.

The military is made up of the same gun nuts, militiamen and rednecks you libtards mock every day.

>>132466333
can still kill a person

>>132466212
>implying everyone will revolt or gov is poor
Lmao just buy grain for the offset

>>132466498
lol have fun fighting someone with a 22 that has a 223 or anything that actually can kill people past 50 yards

>>132465559
Nohting beats the Hero stance.

>>132462796
this is the dumbest shit.
>literally saying you are against freedom
>including your own
>loyal Soviets were executed because rivals made accusations over loyalty
what was that about history and doomed to repeat it?

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I own an AR-15 assault rifle to defend myself myself against the government, should they confine my right to own an AR-15 assult rifle to defend myself myself against the government, should they confine my right to own an AR-15 assult rifle to defend myself myself against the governementent.

>>132466238
>magic politics detector
Yes it's called noncompliance

>According to their numbers, most of the military would immediately defect if the government became tyrannical and commanded attacks on US citizens.
>According to their numbers
Try again.
The govt wouldn't "command attacks on US citizens" either, you braindead fucking idiot. Learn how wartime propaganda works.

Did the soldiers in the pacific theatre of WW2 get sent to "kill fellow human beings"?
Or to kill dirty subhuman japs who committed a lot of warcrimes and attacked us and are intent on conquering us and raping your entire family?

>>132465337
Based dad knows what's up

>>132462134
NOT

>>132466147
>gorillla
it's guerrilla
aaaahahahahah. what do you think it is? an army of gorillas? hahahaha fucking idiot

>>132466631
>killing a jap who attacked your country is the same as killing your neighbor
ok d00d

>>132466604
Isnt the government like your millionth cousin?

>>132466256
Yes they are. What happens to you when you have a gun the govt says you're not allowed to have?

>>132463258
The United States armed forces are some of the most red pilled people on the planet. A lot of them would desert the second an air strike was ordered on American soil, even the DOD is aware of this studies have already been done and published

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Not lobbing in .45-70 rounds into a FOB as indirect fire from 2 miles out.

>>132463165
>Your guns wont create food

What the fuck is hunting? You are the dumbest demi-gook in all of finland.

>>132462231
You do know that the average privately owned security contractor has a larger military airforce than we do?

>>132466313
Oathkeeper is a meme, this has been explained already.

>and instead replace htem with trust worthy (loyal to the government) incompetents.
What do you think they were doing?

>>132466300
sliding what? the le'meme warfare CNN threads?
Libertarian fags getting shown what-for is a good thing.

>>132465628
>You know most Americans in the country side can live off the land right?
Without walmart and target they would be fucked in a few days

>>132466720

hello newfag

>>132466444
Look at all of the weapons at the military's disposal.
The portion of that which you're not allowed to have, is a lot.

>>132467006
see>>132466997
They don't make a difference if they cant enforce a police state. Only in CONVENTIONAL warfare do they matter much.

>>132466988
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

>>132467006
what would the military use that I can't own

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>>132467122
cringe

>>132466437
>patriotism
Fake bullshit that we've made a habit of because we don't have a "nation" to feel actual nationalism towards.

>I would have joined the military to protect my country
Good goy.

>>132466671
BE

>>132467199
Well, these people believe this"fake bullshit" and enforcing a police state goes directly against it.

>>132466594
>literally saying I don't buy your jew lie of "freedom"
If you want to speak about repeating history why don't you look at the American civil war and tell me why you think the libertarians won't get completely shat on again when the odds are stacked many times worse than before.

>>132467179
yeah. that's the point

>>132466750
>your neighbor
Are you being this fucking dense on purpose?

>>132466782
>studies have been done and published

>Look goy how loyal the military is to you, you have nothing to worry about XD, keep sitting on your porch waving your guns around, all is well
Really made me think.

>>132466849
hurr dur hunting is a long term solution for big commumities

Retard, there is a reason why civilizations popped up after agriculture. Read a book

>>132461992
top notch shitpost, my canadian friend

>>132467084
Why are we talking about enforcing a police state now?

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>>132466540
did you really just say that a .22 can't kill past 50 yards?

>>132466750
Countless civil wars have happened where people have literally killed there neighbours.

>>132467626
get ur 22 and ill grab an ar-15 and we can both sit at 50 yards and start shooting

>>132467307
Obviously it doesn't

>>132467701
yes killing a person who speaks the same language as you and lives 10 miles down the road is the same as killing a jap that just attacked your country
i was wrong

>>132467797
Can you stop being autistic and just go look up what "propaganda" is and how it works?
Instead of making us hold your hand and walk you through it?

>>132467797
I'm not saying it's the same, but it's naive to think that your own countrymen can't be turned against you

>>132466782
youre goddam right! so who does that leave to potentially do the job? the UN? bloodied blue helmets will litter the fucking streets

>>132467704

Thats the most retarded arguement ever.
>.22lr cant kill past 50 yards because muh ar15!

No fucking shit an ar is a better weapon than a .22 like gee wow you really outdid yourself this time detective dipshit

>>132467285
FRANGIBLED

>>132468035
>No fucking shit an ar is a better weapon than a .22
I bet you wear realtree and love remshit too don't you

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>>132467980
>larping this hard

Pic related is the government's response to a bunch of hippies camping out during protests

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>>132467980
>>132468286
pic related is the government's response to a bunch of rednecks sitting on government land

>>132467704
That wasn't what I asked nor what you said. A .22 can ABSOLUTELY kill past 50 yards. We both know this. I understand that the 5.56 is a better suited cartridge at increasing ranges but again that wasn't the argument. Stop moving the goalposts and try this instead: MEAN WHAT YOU SAY AND SAY WHAT YOU MEAN.

Also, You do know that a .223 is still a .22 right?

>Bombing 20 to 300+ million American people

So let them? Lets see how that goes.

>>132468286
>b-b-but they wouldn't do that to meee

>>132462767

>No one replies to the normal person that clearly isn't a /pol/ regular shiller

This whole site got taken over by paid posters who reply to themselves or just outright dickheads.

>>132467980
>>132468396
pic related is the government's response to a bunch of whack-job cultists not registering their guns

>>132468045
... YEAH!

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>>132468584
>pic

>>132468409
>Oh boy you probably believe the .22 is useless meme
oh sorry didn't realize that you meant all 22 caliber weapons
well in that case I guess I've been trolling you for nothing, have a good day

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>>132461992
fuck off

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I don't own an AR-15 assault rifle to defend myself myself against the government, should they become corrupt because I'm a weak lil' cuck nigga that ain't nevah reflected upon the definition of force, violence and thusl'y's my brain big, I don't concern myself with trivial matter such as my family being ripped to pieces by a pack of niggers, I'm safe, my family is safe, I shouldn't learn how to execute force because I'm a lil' stupid weak cuck nigga please hold my hand, I trust police, I trust the state, I'll call you in my time of need, pls hurry my children are dying, I don't know how to cook.

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>>132468634
Wow you are dense. To reiterate: MEAN WHAT YOU SAY AND SAY WHAT YOU MEAN. Is it really that hard? This is kindergarten level shit here.

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>>132468584
pic related is tyranny in action and a precursor to the more and more prevalent attitude regarding infringement.

>>132469753
That worked out well for you in the civil war didn't it?
You remember, back when the tyrannical government and the oppressed citizenry actually had comparable strength

>>132461992
The US government could never just kill the terrorist sandniggers on drone strikes, they always kid countless other civilians including kids. And by lefty theory when you kill your enemy they win, because when a bunch of innocents get killed their families get pissed that uncle Sam did that to them. So knowing that the US government would never use drones on their own soil. We're not some sandniggers half a world away. Anyone can probably find a military base within a few hour drive of their house if they wanted go there and shoot people at the base or better yet just get in a car and go to dc and just start killing anyone in the government at random.

>>132470377
inbr
>muhh 1776

Try it again without the French, and try to prove the tyranny with something more concrete than "you're violating muhh god given rriggghhttsss"

>>132470522
If they didn't kill a bunch of kids, the terrorist groups would have a hard time recruiting more people and giving the govt more targets to shoot at.

>Anyone can probably find a military base within a few hour drive of their house if they wanted go there and shoot people at the base
Yeah and what happens then?
You die

>>132470377
Expand on the correlation between what I said and your connection to the civil war.

>implying the government and citizens had/have comparable strength.

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>>132470546

Do you know what the Constitution is? It is the supreme law of the land. It does not give rights but merely recognizes those we are endowed with by our creator. I suppose that is a foreign concept to some huh?

>>132470712
the civil war was a libertarian effort to fight against tyranny.
The "attitude regarding infringement" doesn't get more prevalent than what it was in the south at the time.
Didn't stop them being completely fucked in the ass though did it

>blabla dronestrikes and tanks

Meanwhile the entire US military fails to bring peace to Afghanistan, a country with significantly less of an armed population, with shittier infrastructure and people who aren't so bored they train shooting 4 times a week.

This won't even be a contest.

>>132470956
Yes we both know who won the civil war. A war was fought many years ago. It would be foolish to make many assumptions based on that war many years ago.

>>132470886
>It is the supreme law of the land
It's a piece of paper. It only survives today because the people in power have allowed it to.
Your "creator" is an immaterial concept. You can't demonstrate that he did actually endow you with anything, which is the exact reason the founding fathers used it to justify their rebellion. Because they knew their "revolution against tyranny" was bullshit.

>>132471317
>many years ago
You're right, let's look at how the situation has changed since then.
>the libertarians no longer have an even remotely comparable strength to the tyrannical government
>the tyrannical government is no longer purely domestic, it remains secure regardless of how much the American territory bleeds
>the tyrannical government possesses the means to identify and snuff out rebellion before it can even be organized

>>132461992
They'll run out of drones and missiles long before we run out of people anon. There are millions of people with hundreds of millions of guns. That's not a win for the government.

>>132471644
Those millions of people care more about their lives and the lives of their families than about their guns.
They're not going to fight for the tiny few who do care more about their guns.

>>132461992
Are you retarded? Do you think rebels would form a line in some field and wait for the tanks and fighter jets to arrive?

No, they would mingle with the general population, you can't blow up cities without more people joining to resist you.

>>132461992
>overrun the military base where the drone is being manned
>shoot the operator
>drone crashes
>problem solved

get out of here stupid fucking leaf

>>132462231
last time a white cis male became a little upset with the government he killed hundreds of people with truck full of fertilizer

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>>132471570
>It's a piece of paper. It only survives today because the people in power have allowed it to.

Yes a piece of paper. On which is written the supreme law of the land. Other laws that do not toe the line of the constitution are in and of themselves null and void. The people who allow the constitution to remain the supreme law of the land are the people. Those in power who wish to destroy it have yet to do so. Do you know why? Because the people would stop them with force. AND THEY KNOW THIS. If that isn't the case, why have those in power who wish to negate the constitution not done so? Because they FEAR what would happen to them. As they should.

You say that the government is much stronger than the people? No. Not even close. THE PEOPLE hold the power. Again, if this is not the case then why does the constitution still exist? Why haven't the gun grabbers been successful in taking all the guns? It is plain to see.

>>132467179
How to spot a newfag 101 folks

>>132471644
literally Soviet tactics

>>132461992
We've been fighting Afghan goat herders living in the mountains for 16 years. The US can't beat Guerilla warfare.

>>132472734
>supreme law of the land
The supreme law is violence. Stop LARPing.

>Those in power who wish to destroy it have yet to do so. Do you know why?
Because they don't want to destroy it.
They're content with just ignoring parts of it here or there.

>Why haven't the gun grabbers been successful in taking all the guns?
Because they haven't been trying to. Why? Prolly because it wouldn't be profitable at the moment.

They've been taken from plenty of other countries though. There is NOTHING about Americans that make us immune or exempt from the law of violence. Stop pretending otherwise, it's sad.

>>132472347
>overrun military base
jokes on you faggot, operators are belong to CIA. all your privacy are belong them.

>>132463465
rocked that, brother

>>132473344
>The supreme law is violence. Stop LARPing.

The supreme law of the land is ultimately enforced by violence. This is not now nor was it a point of contention. And the powers that be know this YES. Did I say otherwise? Please show me where I said otherwise. I'll wait. So who is LARPing I wonder bolshevik?

>Because they don't want to destroy it.
They're content with just ignoring parts of it here or there.

Those in power do wish to disarm the populace. It is plain to see. This is why they demonize AR-15's in particular and we have seen astro-turfing in regards to anti-gun agenda pushers. They lie, obfuscate, propagandize, and spend money by the truckload to eliminate guns. And what has been the result? I have watched conceal carry move like a plague through the states. CONSTITUTIONAL CARRY is becoming more prevalent. For every plea to our fee-fees there has been an ultimate beatdown time and again by those who have an understanding of logic and reasoning. Firearm companies have been seeing small arms at staggering rates.

>Because they haven't been trying to. Why? Prolly because it wouldn't be profitable at the moment.

The gun grabbers have been trying to take guns for years and years and years. And they have gotten their asses kicked time and time again. If you try to deny this you willingly deny reality.

This is why the prepping movement, militias, and anger is growing. This is why we see an ongoing war between the MSM and the alternate media. The peasants are starting to really see the tyranny that was hidden for so long. And there is a line in the sand. GUNS.

>There is NOTHING about Americans that make us immune or exempt from the law of violence. Stop pretending otherwise, it's sad.

Please show me where I said this anywhere. Again I'll wait. What is it called when you present an argument not in contention so you can defeat it and claim victory? I will simply say:

WEAKNESS.

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>>132462231
>Fighting fighter jets and war crimes with sharp sticks and rusty AK's

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>>132475400
If it has to be "enforced" by something then it's not supreme and you're just throwing that word in to make it sound more meaningful than it is.

>For every plea to our fee-fees
>The gun grabbers have been trying to take guns for years and years and year. And they have gotten their asses kicked time and time again.
Oh jesus fucking christ, I'm debating another guy who fell for the bipartisan politics kikery. Just scroll up, I'm not going to bother.

>This is why the prepping movement, militias, and anger is growing.
And I bet you probably think they're still run by genuine citizens and not government actors by the time they're big enough to actually be worth the effort of infiltrating, don't you, my delusional, blue-pilled compadre?

>present an argument not in contention
>not in contention
>"the people would stop them with force"
I'm telling you no, they wouldn't, and you're living in a make-believe fantasy land.
Because jacking off your fucking shotgun and telling yourself they wouldn't dare try anything is easier for you than taking active measures to expel them from the country.

Honestly just fucking give it a rest. You're cannon fodder. As long as you keep clinging to your retarded moralistic ideals, no amount of pretend freedom is gonna change that.

>>132461992
You don't own shit because you're a fucking leaf.

>>132461992
and how many death a year from rifles, in the us?

>>132476958
75% of the 10,100 homicides committed using firearms in the U.S. were committed using handguns, compared to 4% with rifles, 5% with shotguns, and the rest with unspecified firearms

4 fucking %
404 death a year from rifle

HOLY SHIT STOP THE PRESSES 404 DEATHS A YEAR FROM RIFLES

>>132462231
>Who are the mujaheddin

>>132464463
How fucking new are you?

>>132462727
From the mouth of Alex Jones himself
>Bootlicker
>Globalist scum
>Chimeras

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>>132461992
>I own a standard issue company rifle to protect myself against the gov-

>>132463360
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>>132461992
>I own an AR-15 assault rifle

Right there plus flag.

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>>132476720
I need clarification: So any law that needs to be enforced is bullshit? The Constitution is the SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND regardless of your feelings. Of course there will be those who do not wish to follow the supreme law of the land but that does not make that law any less valid, or supreme. What a weak response by you.

>Oh jesus fucking christ, I'm debating another guy who fell for the bipartisan politics kikery. Just scroll up, I'm not going to bother.

Please show me how my response is in any way bipartisan in nature. It is simple fact that the anti's have been getting their asses kicked. This is in no small part connected to the awakening to the blatant tyranny in this country as it pertains to our government and the media, amongst other things. They take an inch there, we take a foot here. Round and round we go. While this happens it wakes people up to the underlying AGENDA.

>And I bet you probably think they're still run by genuine citizens and not government actors by the time they're big enough to actually be worth the effort of infiltrating, don't you, my delusional, blue-pilled compadre?

You don't know much, that includes what I think. Even when I write it out plainly you seem to have a problem with misrepresenting it so you can defeat your new self-serving talking point. Do you often argue with yourself? What might that be construed as? Poor guy.

>I'm telling you no, they wouldn't, and you're living in a make-believe fantasy land.
Because jacking off your fucking shotgun and telling yourself they wouldn't dare try anything is easier for you than taking active measures to expel them from the country.

Well congrats, you have me laughing. But seriously, is this the extent of what you offer here...this is it? You intentionally present strawman arguments not in line with what was actually said so you can feel good about defeating those weak premises you yourself presented? This is what you bring to the table? WEAK.

>>132478736
isn't true
America's domestic military is designed to completely obliterate rebellion.
America's foreign military (which is what you're talking about every time you say hurr hurr da gubmint got btfo in afghenstan) is designed to destroy governments and infrastructure, which is the cheapest way for America to preserve its hegemony.

>>132461992
You know the general thing you're supposed to do in a case like this is not a straight up fight, but a sort of guerrilla warfare sort of thing yeah?
Like how America lost against a bunch of rice farmers, sure we fucked them right up but they still made it nasty enough for us to fuck off.
That's what actual, competent people would do in a situation like this is make things bad enough for the government for them to proceed with negotiations and resolve the situation likely with some sort of compromise between them.
And having an asset like an AR-15 on hand, rather then risk massive amounts of resources raiding a natl guard armory or something is a lot better, get my drift?
I swear its like you fags have never fought a real war

>>132465960
If the us and isreali armies stopped supporting radical Islamic groups they would crumble in an instant.

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>>132479177
Supreme means there's no higher authority, dunce. The authority higher to the constitution is the government. This is a fact proven by them willingly ignoring the constitution as it suits them.
But keep saying it's the supreme law of the land, go on. Keep repeating it like a little christcuck repeats his useless prayers to his imaginary god.
Every time you make a point about how the government's afraid to remove guns because of the threat of violence, you PROVE me right. The supreme law is violence.

>Please show me how my response is in any way bipartisan
>the anti's have been getting their asses kicked
>............by the pro's

Why are you surprised by the fact that nobody wants to talk you sincerely when all you have to contribute to the discussion is "muhh people are waking up, you'll see, I'll be proven right eventually hehehehe just wait"

Anyway
>10 million men forcibly signed to the American military to fight in its war against Japan to preserve dominance in the Pacific and against Germany to protect (((British))) dominance in Europe

b-b-but we'll call up cleetus and billybob, we've got our rifuls hyar, they won't be able tuh stop us, FREEDOM!

>>132464278

Not advocating violence, of course. Having said that, drone operators live in homes.
They go shopping at stores.
They eat at restaurants.

>this shitty thread gets posted daily and still reaches bump limit
Why are you guys so fucking retarded?

>>132461992
>$1500 AR-15 vs. hundreds of millions of dollars to keep a single drone in operation an armed

This is how exactly how terrorist groups are bankrupting the US government.

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>>132461992
>The US government will surely use Jets, Nukes and Drones to Bomb their own Infrastructure, Industry and people because that will surely not cripple them

The US will lose a civil war the second it starts. Armed Militia can take down specific infrastructurial points in a matter of hours, yet you Leafs always pretend like its one man and his rifle defending his fucking front lawn against tanks.

>>132481150
You're forgiven for not knowing American history since you're German
but we already had a civil war between the US government and libertarians
The US government won

Plus nowadays local infrastructure doesn't mean shit to the government since they're not based solely here. So destroy away.

>>132480699
>The authority higher to the constitution is the government.
No. Stop being a fucking retard you dumb faggot. The Constitution is the highest law document of the land.

>>132465103
>implying the military would turn against citizens in such a scenario
only about 15% of the military would go with fully corrupt orders, the remaining 75% would take them and their masters out
Trump is already readying the military to heed his commands, and guess what, they want to.

>>132481494
>implying they would see the scenario as turning against citizens and following corrupt orders

Just like the finns in ww2 right? The ffuck can some drunk hunters with nothing but bolt actions do against the red armys tanks and planes? Absolutely nothing, thet layed down and died remember? Just one of a thousand examples

>>132461992
I don't see soldiers killing their own country men.

If kikes ever get their hands on robots to do the dirty work, then yes, you are pretty much fucked.

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>>132481466
>If I say it enough it will magically come true XD

>>132466631
You really think that the times are the same as the Japanese war? We live in a totally different century you stupid commie fuck. People aren't easily fooled anymore. Especially military men.

>>132481617
I don't even know what point you're trying to make. This isn't debatable. The Constitution is the highest law document of our land. That is the fact. What are you even saying? How can you even argue this? Who even mounts said argument?

>>132481585
They embarrassed the soviets yes but ultimately gave up their land.
great example

>>132481627
>People aren't easily fooled anymore
Exhibit A for why that's not true: You believe it's true.

>>132480699
but you just said the supreme law is violence. anyone is capable of violence.

>>132481808
Maybe stop being a faggot and read a bit of the thread before replying

>>132461992
if drones are so good why does the army need assault rifles?
checkmate atheists.

>>132482041
Who is more capable of violence, a government that has an entire war economy and tens of millions of men to force into service, or a bunch of disgruntled citizens trying to organize into a militia and wage guerrilla warfare?

>>132482082
I did read your shitty responses. The Constitution is the highest law document of the land. You haven't refuted this, you dumb nigger. Now come and take it.

>>132482185
I dunno, let's ask the Vietnamese rice farmers with shitty rifles going up against the US military.

>>132473344
>The supreme law is violence
>So disarm yourself.

What a dumb nigger lol

>>132482225
It's already being taken from you bit by bit you retarded little LARPing faggot and you do nothing about it except post a Drudge article to /r/the_donald to prove how "le democraps are the reel facists"

>>132482185
guerilla warfare is hell on war economies

>>132482185
that's supposition. should the government ever need to force tens of millions into service and wage all-out war against their own country, then their country would cease to be. arguing the supreme authority of the united states would be pointless since the united states wouldn't exist.

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>>132480699
Just because people want to ignore the supreme law of the land does not mean that it is not the supreme law of the land. I don't know how to simplify that any more for you. And yes I will repeat it, because it is in fact the supreme law of the land. :shrug: And again, I never said that the laws were not enforced via violence or threat thereof. Never said that. Yet you keep misrepresenting my basic statements so you can attack them. You act as if violence is not motivated by any relevant factors. SURELY THERE IS A REASON YES? What a disconnect in your rationale. This is basic stuff.

Remember when I said multiple times, "show me where I said that"? Remember that? I see you still can't do that. And we both know why...because that was not in fact what I said. So again...you argue with yourself. It is exceedingly weak for your viewpoint to have to resort to such tactics, and I see in this response you continue to do the same. I hoped you would try harder, but that hope is subsiding...it appears you can't do any better. You must not be capable of such a task huh?

Poor guy. Good luck with that.

>>132482360
>It's already being taken from you bit by bit you retarded little LARPing faggot
Wrong. Not all of us live in shitty commie hellholes.

>>132482351
>repeating debunked arguments because he's a brainlet

>>132482510
The US govt doesn't survive off the American economy alone.

>>132482617
What commie shitholes does the US constitution apply to, retard?
If you think the constitution isn't being eroded, and hasn't been since the day it was fucking signed, you're willfully ignorant.
Go discuss your make-believe world somewhere else

>>132482617
"Congress must approve declarations of war"

>LOL k let's not declare it then and just roll in with our army, completely destroy their government, occupy them, and call it a military intervention

>>132482028
So are the posts moving? Obly depends on loss of land? Not the fact they defended themselves against an overwhelming force?

>>132461992
>not buying an abrams tank to fight the government

>>132483133
>replying twice to the same post
Man, you are fucking MAD, aren't you? Well get used to it faggot. You will never convince Officer Joe to knock on my door for the purpose of confiscating my guns. Mainly because we both see each other at the range and he isn't about to give up his rights either, just because some commie faggot in DC says so.

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>>132483160
>defended themselves
They didn't though, didn't you read? They lost that land. And they never got it back.
I'm not moving any posts, I just assumed the point of the second amendment was to actually be SUCCESSFUL in defending your freedom not to just make a valiant fucking effort.
My mistake, I stand corrected.

>>132483397
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0MMXjaD3zo
>It-it-it could never h-happen to me, my p-patriotism is t-too strong
Officer Joe isn't an officer anymore, by the way. He was insubordinate so he got discharged.

>>132483480
Okay so in your ideal history line they didn't put up a fight at all just had a welcome committee at the border? In yoir mind theres no point in defending yourself because someone else will always be better?

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>>132462134
The Rabbi has a point, you know.

>>132483679
So you gonna convince Officer Jim to knock of my door instead? Follow your own logic, dumb shit. Who will be willingly knocking on doors to confiscate private property, knowing they are armed? Who's to say I didn't lose all my guns in a tragic boating accident? Who's to say I even had guns in the first place? Are you retarded or merely pretending?

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>>132483710
In my ideal history line the soviets would've been ousted like two decades prior, when they first started being faggots.

My point is that stroking your AR-15 and chanting shall not be infringed like a braindead fucking cultist is not "defending yourself" when your government RIGHT NOW is a hostile foreign enemy.
But you don't give a shit unless it affects you personally because libertarians reject the notion of "nation" and "community"

>>132461992
The US government tried the "leading from the rear :DDDD" bombing and droning approach against goatherders in the Middle East and it still failed. It's not going to do much in a revolt inside its own country either.

>>132484273
Alrighty. The warters are a bit chummy.

>>132484162
I don't need to convince Officer Jim. He's not a moralistic retard, he's like all the others and is here to make money and look out for his own family.

Letting guns be legal for civilian use was literally the biggest mistake the USA government has ever done. No wonder you have so many gun related deaths and crimes, since even a kid can get an assault rifle. The army should go to every american house and take all the guns they have. There is no reason a civilian should have one. If you are in danger just call the police since they are trained to fight threats compared to you.

>>132478382
>tanks can get Zerg rushed
>tank is no effectivly useless against the soldiers on top

>>132484450
Is getting shot a part of Officer Jim's master plan?

>>132481408
Dude that would be in no way the same kind of civil war lmfao

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>>132484711
Well yeah duh, some pic related commie said so

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>>132484541
Mexico and Brazil have way more gun deaths and lawlessness than the USA despite having a much tighter control on guns because, guess what, when you criminalize guns only the criminals have guns. Meanwhile Switzerland has loads of gun owners and tiny crime in general. Also, civilian gun owners in the US kill way more criminals than the police.

>>132484711
The risk of it is part of the job? Yes.

>>132484810
I described a few of the differences here>>132471570

>>132461992

I’m going to say this once, just once, for all you stupid knuckle-dragging fucks in the world: YOU CANNOT CONTROL AN ENTIRE COUNTRY AND ITS PEOPLE WITH TANKS OR JETS OR BATTLESHIPS OR ANY OF THAT SHIT.

A FIGHTER JET CANNOT STAND ON STREET CORNERS AND ENFORCE NO-ASSEMBLY EDICTS. A FIGHTER JET CANNOT KICK DOWN YOUR DOOR AT 3AM TO SEARCH YOUR HOUSE FOR CONTRABAND MATERIALS OR ANTI-SOICAL PROPAGANDA.

A FIGHTER JET IS USELESS FOR MAINTAINING A POLICE STATE.

POLICE ARE NEEDED TO MAINTAIN A POLICE STATE.

AND NO MATTER HOW MANY POLICE YOU HAVE, THEY ARE ALWAYS OUT-NUMBERED BY THE PEOPLE, WHICH IS WHY IT’S VITAL FOR YOUR POLICE TO HAVE AUTOMATIC WEAPONS AND YOUR PEOPLE TO HAVE NOTHING BUT THEIR LIMP DICKS.

BUT WHEN EVERY RANDOM PEDESTRIAN MIGHT HAVE A GLOCK JAMMED IN HIS WAISTBAND, KICKING DOWN THOSE DOORS BECOMES A LOT FUCKING RISKIER, LEST YOU CATCH A BULLET ON YOUR WAY IN.

DUMB. FUCK. HEADS.

>>132484450
Who's going to look out for Officer Jims family when he's dead on somebody's doorstep

>>132485008
And what would convince Officer Jim to knock on my door, assuming I'm armed and willing to defend my private property with lethal force? Why wouldn't Officer Jim say "no fuck that shit. I'm not going to die over some commie faggot's order"? How would he know I didn't just lose my guns in a tragic boating accident? How does he even know I had guns to begin with? Let's say he knocks on my door and I say I don't have any guns. What's the next step of his master plan?

>>132485191
State will fix it. Kinda like his statement of sitting around uttering words?

>>132485191
The government. It's called survivor's benefits, I think?
Are you actually trying to make some kind of point here or are you just being autistic and asking retarded questions hoping for one to fall in your lap?