Illinois Senate overrides Gov. Rauner's veto of permanent

http://archive.is/DIbro

>>132382523
Lol this cant be real

People dont even have time to avoid this be moving... Theyre about to rob everyonevwith a job in the state.

This will not help them in future elections. Democrats are thieves. Nothing more

>>132382884
>This will not help them in future elections.
Hardcore urban democrat voters will never vote for the other party no matter what. The worse they will do is sit out the election.

>>132382884
Everything is fucked here. Dems get elected just for breathing. All the gibs love them.

>>132382523
FUCKING CROOKS REEEEEE

>>132382523
The pensions just weren't enough. It had to be a 32% income tax as well.

Why weren't they told about this ahead of time in their newsletters saying everything was great?

>>132382523
>still living in Illinois
Fucking why? I got out in the 90s and it was absolutely awful then. Can't imagine a reason to be there as a white man now unless you're immobile. All the adjacent states are better economic and social wise. Just get the fuck out and vote with your feet.

>>132382523
30% tax in and of itself is fucking insane. But 30% INCREASE lol!!! Wtf!!!

>>132384065
UBI and free shit and gay bath houses will fix it.

>>132384065
Going from a 10% tax rate to a 13% tax rate is a 30% increase

>>132384065
New budget has a deficit of $4 billion on top of that. Dems get whatever they want here.

>>132382523
Wait so with the federal 25% you niggers pay over 50% taxes or some crazy shit???

>>132384252
FUCKING GOYIM

THEY ALWAYS EXAGGERATE EVERYTHING WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO FIX THEIR SHIT FOR THEM

G-D DAMMIT

>>132382884
>won't help in future election
Rauner can use this as cred for reelection. I really hope the fatsos and kikes running lose. Rauner ain't no Trump, but at least he's not a complete faggot.

I love that your governor is full of bullshit...just he's airing commericals like he really done something. fuck Rauner long live MIKE Madigan

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>>132382523
will this encourage more white flight and deeper budget death spiral of this state? boy this is beautiful, a state crashed straight into the mountain by Chiraqi niggers and liberals.

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so when is shit going to hit the fan in Illinois.

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>>132382523
feels good to not have a state income tax

>>132384623
i hope every cracka hurry the fuck up and leave my great state of Lincoln...

>>132383083
And how is democrats sitting out elections helping democrats or hindering republicans?

Again.... This will not help them in future elections

>>132384766
Lmao Chicago is the next Detroit. Shits about to get way worse for niggers in Shitcago

>>132382523
Masshole here - I was on an IL thread the other night and they confirmed the state is suspending ticket sales for it's lottery because they can't pay out winners.
Illinois will have to be bailed out by the rest of the Union, yes?

>>132384766
No you fucking don't. You niggers follow us and ruin wherever you go. Almost every city in the midwest was ruined by southern niggers coming up for gibs. When we leave Illinois and it's just you left, you'll come with your hands out not even realizing you're doing the same damn thing. And we'll probably continue the gibs.

Fuck niggers. In every way. Fuck niggers.

>>132383083
Hardcore urban voters don't have incomes to tax, other than the very same subsidies which will be funded by this permanent tax hike on people, mostly white, who actually work, who actually generate taxable incomes, and thus actually produce value for the state of Illinois.

We need a Border Wall around Chicago.

>>132385139
>Illinois will have to be bailed out by the rest of the Union, yes?
Nah, fuck 'em

>>132384898
The shitcago alynskite communist troskyite traitor seditious militants and their talumist jewsish masters and useful idiots are obviously using this to put trump in a tight spot.

The obvious response is to tell them that times are tough state rights are to be respected, so they can appoint their own austerity dictator (like Michigan) and then see how it goes.

>>132384474
Yeah, that JB pedo looking fuck is a scumbag. He's going to have a hard time after this. Everybody in IL outside the ghetto is pissed.

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>>132382523
Minnesota is definitely not red.

All left is niggers on welfare.

>>132382523
And what will they be doing with those taxes?

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>>132382523
>pic related

>raise taxes to support your massive nigger problem
>whites get fed up with paying for jamal and laquesha's 17 niglets
>mass exodus of whites to states where niggers are kept in check
>all of Illinois becomes chiraq

Next step would be to build a wall on any border you share with illinois, lest you get niggroaches.

>>132385410
Everything is niggers on welfare.

How do we not understand yet how the jews operate communism?

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>>132385139
MO bro here, we will bail out our IL brothers in exchange for indentured servitude of your roasties and CLAY

>>132385554
>colours
kys

I guess this means all productive smart people are going to be moving out of Illinois. Can't you live in Indiana and commute to work in Chicago? Or would you have to live in some nigger infested hell-hole like Gary, IN?

>>132385356
Yeah, I know I'm not voting for the fucker, and neither is any of the senpai so help me God. Whats the point of getting a job in this shit hole anyways, might as well stay quasi-NEET

>>132383083
>Hardcore urban democrat voters

so niggers?
Quite fitting

>>132385510
hookers and blow, maybe getting in some more violent muslims or mexican gangs

>>132385139
I certainly hope not
our state is only doing well because we have a republican in charge, we were going down the tubes when we had Patrick

>>132384758
Feels good that we will likely never have a state income tax as our initiative process and Tim Eyman basically kill all tax increases.

>>132385410
gib me my motherfucking welfare check white boy or I will rape, and kill your wives and kids

>>132385560
I live in Illinois. It's Chicago and a tiny bit of Rockford. The rest of the state is red.

>>132385853
MA is an awful shithole. It's basically a defunct pit of hell for new englanders who want talmudic communism so the surrounding states can enjoy life to some extent.

>>132385331
I love it when the democrats tell us we should be compassionate as if they don't already take half of our earnings and give it to rapist murderous niggers to sit home and smoke weed all day

>>132385881
it's kind of amazing that the state is so liberal in federal elections but we haven't gone full libtard in state level politics

>>132382523

Oklahoma income tax rate is around 5%, which is not much, i just read that illinois is around 3.5%

i don't really see the problem here, although we have constitutional guidelines for how and where state funding can be sourced, so we have low taxes on alot of other stuff that other states will tax the fuck out of.

>>132386000
This is what happens when you have democrats running your state nearly unopposed for decades
what the fuck is it going to take for Democrats to stop getting voted in.

>>132382523
32% state income tax is political and economic suicide.

The left really has lost it's mind, I laughed 10 years ago when people said Chicago would become the next Detroit and now I'm watching it happen.

>>132384898
I'm from Michigan and I'm just wondering when we'll be able to be able to legally hunt niggers in Chicago? Wait..that' s a great idea...sell hunting licenses to hunt niggers in Chicago. Could wipe out state debt and make Chicago great again in record time.

>>132385946
exactly, and you're about to start feeding chiraq even more, which is going to make anyone with common sense (ex: not city "people") leave the fucking state.

>>132385946
isn't rockford one of the few major cities in chicago that is still majority white?

>>132386044
checked and they also live broken glass in the streets and one time I even called the police because it seemed like there was about to be nigger-on-nigress street violence after all the yelling.

>>132384065
>>132384252
it's going from 3.75 to 4.95% tax on personal income and from 5% to 7 for corporate.

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>>132385161
The problem isn't the niggers, it's the people giving the gibs.

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>>132386000
good use of trips

>>132386181
>I'm from Michigan and I'm just wondering when we'll be able to be able to legally hunt niggers in Chicago?

I'm also from Michigan and one of those Chicago niggers is dating my white cousin. :-(

>>132386120
One of my favorite quotes from some family there
>why should we even vote?
>it's going to go democrat anyway?
>our democrat vote should matter!

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>>132386065
Do you accept commiefornian tax refugees?

>>132386288
literally fucking nothing

>>132386065
Yeah quite amazing, we've been the state without a Republican Governor for the longest time, and we still made it to the top of the list for the state with the most regressive taxation XD

Who /bankrupt/ here?

>>132383083
That's a pretty bold statement. Democrats are moving left to protect their urban voters, but they're overshooting the overton window considerably, alienating their moderates. The liberal elites who have the means to pay the higher tax will simply move away or hide their money. Meanwhile, Trump's populist message is making inroads in working class and urban areas, and minorities are starting to recognize they are being used as voting blocs for Democrats and nothing more.

>>132386326
democrats are traitors to the union honestly, they stopped being decent decades ago, around LBJ actually. Once the party became infested by gibsmedats
something has to give.

>>132386120
Literally raising state income tax to 32% will do the trick, California's is currently the highest at 13.3%.

Taxes this high have never worked in the history if man kind.

>>132386120
Lol, it don't matter, the Republicans are cucks, they give up too easily and the Dems are fighters who don't give a shit about debt or any of that moral money.

>>132382523
So you're telling me you don't want to pay more in taxes to help the blacks who act tribal and destroy cities? Well you don't have a choice.

LAND. OF. THE. FREE

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>>132385554
Why aren't you faggots banned from posting today ?

>>132386161
>32% state income tax increase

FTFY...

>>132386570
Yeah I mistyped.

My B

>>132384046
This will happen. Im just hoping its enough to implode the state

>>132384758
Watch out for the left, though. They're pushing for an income tax as hard as they can, and the mindless automatons in Seattle are falling for it.

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As faggoty as xkcd is, this is fitting

>>132386161
read the article faggot. fuck you can just read the headline.... 32% increase. they increased it by 32%. went from 3.75 to 4.95. kys faggot you just as bad as they are.

>>132386441
What you have to do is make it so people can no longer deduct their state taxes from their federal ones, that way libshit states that tax out the ass will make their citizens actually have to feel the burden they're being placed under.

As it is now increases in state taxes are somewhat absorbed by a corresponding deduction to federal taxes.

>>132386333
Sure, just don't bring any of your Californian politics up here.

>>132386692
They can push whatever autistic shit they want, we have state constitutional amendment barring state income tax. Fucking commie pieces of shit will hang

>>132385601
You should also demand the Colts move to STL.

>>132386750
We should just pay Ari Steinberg to figure it out for us.

>>132386325
Death from AIDS imminent. Dont let her touch you or cough on you

>>132386692
It's funny because as much as they push for it, it will end up being repealed by initiative. Thx Tim Eyman.

>>132382523
>Illinois Senate overrides Gov. Rauner's veto of permanent 32% income tax increase.

Holy fucking shit. The political class in almost every Western country has been fucking useless for the last 30 years.

>>132386325
Oh God, I'm sorry man, don't know what to say...if you need help (hypothetically) into turning that nigger into a good nigger, I'd be happy to help, along with members of my (hypothetical) militia. Sorry anon, but I got your back....

>>132386333
That depends. Are you white? Do you have money? Will you help block any gun control efforts?
If the answer to any of the above is "no", we're full.

I don't want to sound like a shitter but the tax hike doesn't sound too catastrophic (unless most of Illinois is inept and poor in the first place)

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Hmmm... makes me think

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._state_budgets

>>132386857
Literally who?

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>>132386746
>only 5% state income tax

Lmao @ taxlets

>>132386161
They didn't increase it TO 32% they increased it BY 32%

>>132387037
Rahm Emmanuel?

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memes aside, why isnt there a mass exodus by the non-chiraqis yet? or is it already happening? any data?

>>132386339
>>literally fucking nothing
>it's nothing guys, it's just 7 to 8
>guys, it's literally nothing, it's just 22 to 25
>guys, you don't know how nothing this is, it's just 50 to 55 stop making mountains out of 55% income tax

>>132382523
holy shit i am so glad I don't live there anymore

rich people need to pay their share

>>132387049
But you're not a state. I'm assuming you don't have to pay federal taxes.

>>132385178
Someone has an idiot's understanding of econ

>>132386392
You are, island nigger and we don't want you. Send your stupid delegation back home. No way are you going to become a state after years of running it like niggers would.

You fucking subhumans can't even read

>>132387049
>no federal personal income tax
we have to pay the state and the feds. ya know, cuz we are an actual state.

>>132387173
We do, poor faggot. Go work hard and earn a living instead of waiting around for gibs.

>>132386104

You have to look at the overall tax burden. There are property/sales/city/county/school/provision taxes that are lumped on top of this income tax. Illinois already has the highest tax burden in the nation, so increasing the tax rate will make it worse. The worst part is that they will still run a deficit, they pension costs are still increasing, and no reforms are in the proposal.

If people want to give their disposalable income to corrupt politicians and government pensions, then fine. But I have a feeling most won't and they'll start moving.

>>132387234
Sorry we're just being goyim.

Some of us still have remnants of foreskin, help us! We'll pay anything to get it off!

>36 votes in the Senate is the minimum needed both to pass and override a veto. There are 37 Democrats in the Senate, but two voted no.


>The measure won the support of one Republican, Sen. Dale Righter of Mattoon


AHAHAHA, RINO TO THE RESCUE

>>132387094
If CO is any indication, it's already HAPPENING. LEAVE AND TAKE YOUR CUBS HATS WITH YOU REEEEEEE

>32% state income tax

holy shit. If thats right that means some people will be paying over 80% of their entire income with local state and federal tax

>>132386104
Going from 3.75% to 4.95% is a lot...

If I used my 90k annual salary, that's $3,375 to $4,455. So an extra grand I'm out of. On top of federal and FICA.

Thats just income tax. Let alone all the other taxes.

>>132386339
so if you make 100K, it is only another $1,000.00, no biggie goy, keep paying those sales and property taxes too

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>>132382523
WI bro here
Pic related

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>>132387354
t. You

>>132387173
when you mean "rich" you mean white people who live in trailers?

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>>132386746
Dude if this size of tax increase wasnt dangerous to the economy theyd have increased it long ago. This is their nuclear option and they know theyre fucked. They just need to act like theyre doing something about it and "tax the rich" is the only mantra they have. This will drive the last of the money out of the state and Chicago will be the next Detroit.

It only takes a straw to break a camels back and this is a fucking piano

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>>132387423
ditto

>>132384369

No - it'll be like 4% instead of 3%.

>>132384758
How long do you honestly think this can last in a state as blue as Washington? Get real. They have literal Commies elected in Seattles local government.

>>132387049
Wow Peurto Rica hates having money.... No wonder theyre defaulting

>>132387101
>>>literally fucking nothing
>it's nothing guys, it's just few refugees
>guys, it's literally nothing, few families
>guys, you don't know how nothing this is, it's just few whites, stop making mountains, we still have above 20% of white population

>>132387018
Its like 600 bucks for the average taxgoy. thats a lot of money to normal people who are hurting. My cousin is about to have a baby, and his senpai needs every penny. Why increase it if its not that much???!! Huh!!!???

>>132387483
a 32% state tax is nothing like a 5% state tax. a 32% increase in taxes is a big deal but if you can't even fucking bother to read the headline kys.

>>132382523
Raising taxes will surely solve problems :^) ?

top 3 reasons why Rome fell
1) taxes went higher and higher
2) uncontrolled immigration
3) war after war that caused huge inflation

US suffers from 1 and 3 and EU suffers from 1 and 2

Question is: which comes 1st EU and war or USA and mass immigration?

>>132386339
thats a lot

It's like they're deliberately turning the state over to the GOP in the midterms.

>>132387406
>dumbfuck doesn't understand percentages

let me spell this out for you.

Say you make 100 dollars, the tax before was 3.75% so you gave the jews who run your gonvernment $3.75. After today the tax has increased 32% so it is now 4.95%. Now you pay $4.95 instead of $3.75.

I agree it's a big fucking deal and illinois is shit for doing it, but the tax rate isn't even above 5% yet you fucking morons.

>>132382523
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA

THIS IS WHAT YOU DESERVE FOR GIVING US KING NIGGER YOU FAGGOTS

>>132387631
Yes, but even the commies hate the commies in the Seattle city government. Also voter participation with the left is dwindling in WA.

>>132387445
no, he means people who have a job

>>132382523
did you even read the article? its literally a 1% tax hike. it goes from 3.75% to 4.95%

>>132387804
also their military went to shit
>spent more and more on 'military'
>military still declined
>pentagon loses trillions of dollars no one asks about it
>trannies and fags in the military
>faggots ask for more money for military every year

>>132388000
>digits confirm common core math skills

>>132387796
No one is talking about the incorrect 33%. Raising the state incoming tax by 33% is enough to destroy the state. Thats why they didnt raise it before. Their economy and financial situation is precarious and this tax increase is going to take $50 billion out of the hands of the people who earned it

And thats everyone with a job in Illinois not just (((muh rich)))

>>132388000
That isn't a 1% tax hike. If the government is bringing in 1 billion in tax revenue at 3.75%, and they raise it to 4.95%, the tax revenue increases to $1.32 billion. That $320,000,000 is real money taken out of the IL economy.

>>132387631
Quite a long time actually, the reason is because since our state can't levy an income tax, less money to dedicate to gibs programs, less money to gibs programs means less people coming to this state for gibs. Also the illusion of this state being dark blue helps keep democratic voter participation down in elections in general.

>>132387804
US suffers from all 3

>>132387865
This. /thread

>>132384758
How's that 15% sales tax to make up for it treating you?

>>132385554
>colours
fucking lel you cucks love the french still don't you.

Also nothing is more hilarious then how you spell tire

>OI MATE, U 'AVANA GO AT FIXIN ME TYRE
bwahhahahahahahahahaha

>>132387423
Shut up, its just as bad here, maybe worse. Coming to wisconsin is not going to fix any of their problems. Ohio is perfect.

>>132388092
>faggots ask for more money for military every year

I personally know a couple trannies who think they will be going into the military. One if a FtM who thinks she is going to be a ranger even though she can't work more than 4 days in a row because her "feet hurt when i'm on them too long". The MtF tranny may actually make it into basic but he has so many medical issues (from fucking up his own hormones and meds) that he will be discharged because he is mentally and physically unfit.

99% of the funding for LGBTWTFBBQ goes towards the funds needed to treat them like shit during basic, then discharge them. If you see an actual tranny deployed somewhere, they either pissed someone off and lost a "safe" job or they are the fucking mentally ill terminator.

>>132388357
It's not 15%, and you don't get taxed on online purchases unless you are buying from an in-state corporation.

>>132388357
Tx sales tax is 6.25%

>>132388357
About as good as the 45% property tax increase that passed in the last minute budget thos week...

>>132384369
It's going up to 4.9% from 3.5 or so

>>132387596
Though we can laugh that much since our state income tax is higher than theirs.

>>132383083
The worse they'll do is move to a decent red state and vote D there

>>132388357
its not 15% its 10%

>>132387887
That fails to account for federal and property taxes (which are also sky-high). Not to mention sales taxes in municipal districts of 6%+

+1 Shekel has been deposited into your account :^)

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>>132382884
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>>132383855
>>132384623
>>132385510
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>>132387483
>>132387804
>>132388219

>literally one of the lowest tax rates to begin with
>literally still will be pretty low

OH NO! ROME IS FALLING!

lol

>>132388000
3.75/100=0.0375
0.0375x32=1.2
3.75+1.2=4,95%
32% based on the original 3.75

>>132388688
OY VEY IT'S ONLY 5 MILLION

EAT SHIT YOU STUPID FUCKING GOYIM THE IS THE END AND IT WILL NEVER GO UP FURTHER THAT 0%

>>132385946
Rockfordian here, I wish my republican votes counted desu

In 2011
>As enacted, the Illinois plan raises the individual income tax from 3% to 5%, a two-thirds increase, and raises the corporate income tax from 7.3% to 9.5%, a 30 percent increase.
In 2015
>Overnight, the tax rate for individuals dropped from 5 percent to 3.75 percent, while for corporations it declined from 7 percent to 5.25 percent.
In 2017
>The $5 billion tax package would boost the personal income tax rate to 4.95 percent from 3.75 percent and the corporate rate to 7 percent from 5.25 percent.

>>132388688
>What is flat tax
>What is progressive tax

>>132388688
> 2nd highest property tax rate in the country.

Fuck off, Madigan fucked us hard. We should have just let everything go junk and fucking burn.

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>>132388092
Reminder

>>132388688
>GA
>6%

Even that is too high when you add FICA, and FEDERAL taxes

Fuck you faggot

>>132388688
AND ALSO DON'T FORGET JIZYA TAX

FUCK THESE STUPID DUMB GOYIM

>>132388500
The property tax hits Liberals the hardest as the metro areas are the most liberal and have increasing property values. If anything this will just force useless people out of the state to the containment zone that is California.

>>132388357
Sales Tax is easy to avoid as buying stuff online gets around it, and food is exempted from it. The end result though is that poor people contribute a greater amount of their income to sales tax than the rich which helps prevent poor people from moving in.

>>132388934
Come to McLean County. We're borderline blue because of the ISU cucks.

>>132388680
>That fails to account for federal and property taxes

Neither does anyone else in this thread you dumbfuck, i didn't even say anything about them. I was literally just clarifying that this post is FAKE NEWS for (you)s.

Now shut the fuck off and go back to the_donald you uneducated piece of human trash.

>>132385161
>niggers ruin everything in the Midwest
>niggers
>Midwest

The problem is that in the Midwest and south White people are retards, you ignore actual facts and say things like "capitalism is a magical system with no flaws that ensures that everyone who works is a rich man and every product is great :^)" even though any sane person can clearly see that unregulated capitalism is even more retarded then communism

>>132389004

Right - so it's even more fair.

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>tfw Mothman has been sighted several times in Chicago over the last few months

He is the Doompaul of Cryptids, it's fucking happening

>>132388962
/pol/ is basically as shit as /r/politics now, stop trying to inject your disgusting common sense into this shit-fling.

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>>132388688
You have to factor in the other taxes to understand. 2nd highest state property taxes. 6.25% sales tax but with local sales taxes it averages 8%. 5% income tax makes IL one of the most taxed states.

the dems are not willing to trim their budget, so you will have to trim yours

>>132389419
it's funny because all you have to do is add the stink lines to the wisconsin guy and this isn't even propoganda.

>>132389319
What does any of any of those taxes pay for again?

Let's try to hold /pol/ to a higher standard than r/thecommunist

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>>132389506
oh,you!

>>132389540
>What does any of any of those taxes pay for again?

They pay for niggers to live for free in concrete boxes.

>>132389319
But were those tax raises permanent ?

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>>132388688
FL master race.

>>132388688
The fact that youre defending this hard shows youre pissed theyre raising taxes on you (((yet again))) but youre hanging on for dear life at this point. You voted for this. Now eat it like the big ol nigger dick you love so much

So to be you demofaggot

>>132389834
Are you fucking retarded?

>>132389540
cops and teachers

Retired Lincoln-Way schools chief gets state's biggest teachers pension: $312,081
http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/daily-southtown/news/ct-sta-district-210-wyllie-pension-st-0304-20160303-story.html

>>132388688
Rome didn't have income tax :^)

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>>132389834
No, we just need more of them going forward.

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>border states turn into Germany, Sweden & France

Have fun with your rape gangs!

>>132384758
I bet. Too bad all that extra money goes towards your cost of living

>>132389999
NO you arrogant shit, when the taxes were implemented. Were they billed as permanent tax increases? Or temporary? Could have clarified, but are you retarded?

>>132382523
>muh 32% tax increase
This shit is intentionally misleading. It's a raise from 3.75% to 4.95%. About $1000 a year for most people. Still a lot of money, but it's not a 32% income tax like all these retards believe

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>>132390259
A THOUSAND DOLLARS IS NOTHING SHITLORD

GIVE IT UP THIS WILL FINALLY FIX THE PROBLEM

>>132387202
And it's you?

What specifically are you disputing in anon's claim?

>>132390170
>Were they billed as permanent tax increases? Or temporary?

All taxes are temporary, they have to be revised after a certain period in almost every case.

>Could have clarified, but are you retarded?

If you weren't an uneducated piece of shit and actually paid attention in school you would have already known the answer to your dumb fucking question.

>>132382523

Ofc leftists do everything possible to rob more ppl even harder. They are demcrats. Theyr believe is that ppl are their slavecattle to reap.

Nothing unexpected happening here.

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It's going from 3.75 to 5%. There is a budget crisis thanks to the failure of the Republican governor. Why are right wing retards chimping out so hard?

>ameriburgers crying about paying 5% income tax

l.o.l.

t. canadian

>>132390384
You were coneived in a glory hole

>>132384046
I have a decent coding job here cause of nepotism
Afraid I would struggle to find work elsewhere
Only reason why I haven't left yet. Having no friends, gf sure makes it easy to just up and leave

>>132390433
>Illinois has democrat leadership for 60 years
>a republican becomes governor in 2015
>blame him

I don't follow this logic.

>>132382523
They are going to be left with no one to pay taxes an an angry horde expecting gibs.

>>132386393
This.

I'm still convinced that 20% of black men voted for Trump.

>>132390494
>You were coneived in a glory hole

What the fuck does coneived mean? I bet you were born after your dad fucked his teacher while being homeschooled.

>legitimately elected government decides to raise taxes a minuscule amount to better provide for its people
>chimp out

>>132390585
don't ask leftists for logic. their "ideology" is literally a mental disease.

>>132387173
"rich people" = anyone who works for a living instead of leeching of government gibs.

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>>132390433
> 40 year of democrat control.
> RAWR DUMB REPUBLICANS DUCK DRUMPF

Unironically considering suicide.

>>132390626
>to better provide for its people
If you lived in illinois (or even the surrounding states) you would know that illinois is a fucking roach breeding ground. I would rather it be nuked from orbit than be better provided for.

>>132390259
Kek $1000/year

From a state where everyone only makes $15k/yr

Youre fucked bro

33% mean from $35 billion in real tax dollars to $50 billion in realbtax dollars

Its not just a number. Its peoples' livelihood which you clearly dont care about which is why your democrat party cant win election

>>132385358
The state legislature is. Only the governor is Democratic.

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>>132390626
>provide for its people

>>132390585
>>132390720
>>132390680
He's deliberately vetoing reasonable solutions. He's trying to crash a great blue state just like Chris Fatso in NJ

>>132388688
>12.5% sales tax
>Highest property taxes in the nation (4x increase in 20 years)
>90% highways are toll roads
>High liquor, tobacco, and gambling taxes
>Soda tax
And that's just the state, not even going to start on municipal fees

>>132390622
Hahahaha angry about a pellign mistake hahahaha, stay mad dick breath pseudo intellectual

>>132390888
shut up 888 racist lincoln freed the slaves don't be racist

>>132390433
Lmao republican governor. The illinois congress passes the budget dipshit. The governor just submits it for approval.

>>132390812
The state needs a shutdown
The veto was a good call. Let it all burn and start anew from "junk"

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>>132390888
hitler trips don't lie

>>132382523
Bullet to the head of all I******s scum. We warned you for years to get your act together and you ignored us. Now it is too late and we are out for revenge. hahahahahaha this is going to be good

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>>132391038
he vetoed it u absolute fucking moron

right wing retards don't even know what a veto is

>>132390585
Democrats literally always try to destroy the economies they control because it creates dependency on their party for gibs and thus votes

>>132390598
This

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>>132382523
Illinois fag here, we are escaping on Monday morning, fleeing to the west.

Wish us luck

T. Robert

>>132382523
HSAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>132390812
>a great blue state

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>>132388478
I like to seriously know how this would all work out if he wad a real war with conventional armies. How quickly does that social marxist shit get kicked out of the military? Do fags and trannies still complain about not beating the patriarchy and becoming a ranger when 10k americans die a month in a world war?

>>132390620
Whoaaa thats giving a lot of credit to a really retarded group of people.

5% of niggers voted for Trump and those are the white ones. The rest are way too fucking stupid to do anything outside of what their zoo handlers tell them

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>>132391354
where ya goin?

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>>132384758

MFW having a income tax is prohibited in the state's constitution

>>132391476
Well, now that we've seen that capitalism has obviously failed the solution is that everything should be free.

>>132391354

As someone that moved from Illinois to Arizona in 2006, it isn't going to be much better if at all.

Housing prices in the west are like 2-3x as much as they are in Illinois.

>>132388495

It's not the same in every city. Cities can raise and lower the sales tax as they wish. Whenever they want to build a new niggerball stadium, they usually vote to raise the sales tax.

>>132390626
This is removing money from "its people".

Everyone with a job pays the state income tax rate. Not just

>> rich people

>>132389951

I'm not defending it, I'm just not exaggerating it.

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>>132391354
larping Australian tryin to pretend hes part of America day

>>132382523
Who the fuck would live here?

>>132391699
real nigga talk my city is half built on various kinds of niggerball stadiums and farmed it out to lots of jews

City tax is like maybe gas money per month unless I forget to move my car during street cleaning day. urdoinitrong

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>>132391160
U good ;)

>>132387173
The top 20% of rich people pay 70% of all taxes.

The bottom 50% pays zero. Wheres your fair share?

>>132384252
Great math skills there goober

>>132385139
>Illinois will have to be bailed out by the rest of the Union, yes?

Only if all of your citizenship is revoked and deported.

>>132391476
>>132391549
God-willing they will both die in training.

>>132390812
there was nothing reasonable about this budget. It's promising to make payments using tax money they don't have and can't raise even with the tax hike. Too many people are leaving the state.

>>132391170
Im referring to the budget you retarded faggot. He vetoed the tax hike and democrats overrode his veto.

Holy FUCK youre an idiot and a typical brainless leftist piece of dog shit

You guys do have progressive tax right?

>living in a state that has state income tax
>paying STATE income tax on top of Federal income tax
LMFAO TBQH
Truly the definition of wagecuck

>>132392334
Yes, and it fixes everything.

Tell us how to have national health care that actually works.

>>132391940
covered entirely by the sales tax

>>132391699
No shit...

>>132391781
And everyone will benifit from the social improvements of these taxes.

What taxes do is ensure people have what they need, once everyone has what they need, the extra income you make is for your own enjoyment. You get to make use of having your needs met by taxes too. Dont worry about it. The only people who need to worry about losing anything via taxes are people who have so much money the amount of taxes they pay are greater than the benefit they get back from the taxes had they just directly paid for those things, and those people are rich and prosperous due to civilization providing them firm footing, and shouldn't complain.

>>132384730

when all the boomers have their second florida house and they're ready to ask the waiter for the check so the Gen X and millenials can pay for it

>>132392421
(((Shit for brains alert)))

(((Will never be shit alert)))

(((Loser fucking thief leech mexican nigger faggot alert)))

Glad im not you homes. Software developmentbpays $63/hr and you have to steal and eat McDonalds ketchup packets for dinner.

You cant even provide for your kids lol

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>>132382523
>about to laugh at Illiniois for being full of retards

>look up the data regarding my state and theirs state tax policy

>my states LOWEST rate is already higher than the increased rate that was proposed, and the highest rate is over double that flat rate

jesus christ I need to get out of Minnesota ASAP, what a joke of a state.

If anyone knows a company that needs a young guy with a B.S. in Economics please send me the info.

>>132392403
Copy the UK system but spend about 50% more than they do. You will now have a 50% better system than them, but still be saving about 6 and a half billion annually over the US' current total medical costs.

>>132392682
The gen x and millennials aren't stupid. They've been leaving for Indiana and Wisconsin. Only people who will have to foot the bill are the poor who cannot move.

>Under the tax measure, the personal income tax rate would increase from the current 3.75 percent to 4.95 percent, which would generate roughly $4.3 billion. An increase in the corporate income tax rate from 5.25 percent to 7 percent would bring in an additional $460 million

Literally nothing.

>>132392719
>btfo with logic
>resorts to name calling

>>132392671
Why would we need to benefit from the social improvements of these taxes?

I thought the point was to make the pension plans solvent.

>>132392671
AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAGAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Everyone will benefit?? No one benefits but jobless weed smoking nigger voters. The tax increase will only cover welfare payments

>>132384474
The problem is that if you was his campaign ads. He stated that he is staying for 1 term

>>132392917
>>132392918
Im talking about taxes in general. I have no idea what this particular tax is justified as being for, because who fucking cares about Illinois?

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>>132384758
>>132390167

not when you live in eastern washington ;)

>>132382523
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe-BmSp8zoA

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>>132386339

It's just a couple percent goy, it's literally nothing.
>It's just a couple percent goy, it's literally nothing.
It's just a couple percent goy, it's literally nothing.
>It's just a couple percent goy, it's literally nothing.
It's just a couple percent goy, it's literally nothing.
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It's just a couple percent goy, it's literally nothing.
>It's just a couple percent goy, it's literally nothing.
It's just a couple percent goy, it's literally nothing.
>It's just a couple percent goy, it's literally nothing.
It's just a couple percent goy, it's literally nothing.
>It's just a couple percent goy, it's literally nothing.
It's just a couple percent goy, it's literally nothing.
>It's just a couple percent goy, it's literally nothing.
It's just a couple percent goy, it's literally nothing.
>It's just a couple percent goy, it's literally nothing.
It's just a couple percent goy, it's literally nothing.
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>It's just a couple percent goy, it's literally nothing.

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>>132393026
>I have no idea what this particular tax is justified for bing for
>who fucking cares?
nice

>>132393026
You are retarded nigger. You just let people take your money "because theyre good in general" without knowing if theres a specific purpose at all.

Youbare brainwashed as FUCK. GOD that must suck lmao

>>132393407
Kek ditto

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>>132387423
>>132387596
We out here

>>132390626
>>132390626
ITS JUST ANOTHER GRAND TO PAY FOR OUR PRECIOUS AFRICAN CHILDREN TO HAVE A BETTER LIFE IS THAT TOO MUCH FOR YOU RICH WHITE MAN

>>132392421
This is a fair point, but you do understand that a tax hike still won't fix Illinois's problems, right? It's probably the single most corrupt state in the country simply because of the city of Chicago.

>>132390922
haha yeah covfefe amirite

>>132389294
How can anything be more retarded than communism? Its pretty much the path Illinois is heading down with all the goddamn gibs.

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>>132390888
Start on the municipal fees I'm almost there

>>132383083

>hardcore urban democrat voters

This is the internet. You can say the word 'nigger' here.

>>132385946
Some of my family members lived in Rockford for over 30 years but they moved 2 years ago because the crime got too bad. They had their house broken into 6 times within a 2 and a half years.

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god i hate this state so much, im in the IBEW and these fucking retards will NEVER vote for anyone other than the democucks

>>132393801
Thisbis not a fair point at all. People who work are required to pay income tax. People are not required to buy shit and pay sales tax. They have no money to buy shit and cost trillions in welfare

>>132394404
>income tax
Sorry. Do not pass Go and do not collect $200. We'll try something a little bit different this time around for all the niggers still playing niggeropoly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6ayb02bwp0

>>132394660
Ok dipshit... What was the point of you replying at all?...

>>132386181
Remember michigander we pay 4.5% state income tax
Do you also remember when Michigan wuz Kangz of the world(gdp per capita) but we just a backwater now

Chicago, Illinois resident here.

Blame the stupid Baby Boomers in this state for creating these problems long before I was ever born. They kicked the can down the road for decades and now the can is too heavy to kick, I hope we go bankrupt and I hope those pensions go unfunded. I hope all those fucks nearing retirement lose their fucking pensions. I hope they start taxing retirement. All those fucks took advantage of a system, double pensions, etc. They made this fucking mess and then they beg the current generation to bail them, we'll just laugh at them.

>>132394404
>People are not required to buy shit and pay sales tax.
The only way people are not going to be required to buy things is if you give it to them.

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>>132394894
Would you like to know how the financial system works?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16xsmHHqFjs

I can do books, too, if you'd like.

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>>132392671
You're literally advocating theft.

If not bait, you are a parasite.

It is no different than taking one kids lunch and redistributing it to all the other kids in the cafeteria because he has more pudding than most kids. Except in this case the pudding was worked for and not necessarily given to them by their parents.

Moreover, historically, prosperity almost always happens in low tax environments. Pic related (1/2).

You shouldnt be advocating for some violent state to relinquish people's money. You should be advocating for cultural improvements which incentivize and encourage charitable giving by the wealthy. I do believe people have a right to life and from that you can necessitate certain things, but you can't violently coerce more prosperous people to provide those needs. It's wrong and your reasoning for wanting this is likely purely for selfish reasons.

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>>132384758
Yes Washington!
>>132388357
It is very regressive and pervasive
>>132389170
but Amazon loves it, since they are exempt.

These people want to create a City of Seattle income tax, which is applied on gross, not net income. I hope the courts find it illegal.

>>132395060
Are you retarded? What did boomers have to do with this? The problem is federal employee unions which racked up teachers' and government workers' pensions to $150k/year with the help of democratic party running the whole state and it's time to pay. Next time kill union members and union elites.

>>132395291
FOr voting for these fucks decade after decade. Passing stupid legislation that go us into this mes.

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>>132395291
Because that's been the D&C plan for years.

It's all part of the heath care thing, too. Need to pit children against their parents in the worst way if you're going to spin them in to Brave New World transhumanist slaves for Jewgolds.

>>132395076
Which is what happens. You think foodstamps and gibs pay sales tax?

>>132385601
If a single pennie is sent to IL than all chicago teams must trade their draft picks to MO teams

>>132394341
Blame all the middle aged and elderly fucks,

>>132394404
>>People who work are required to pay income tax
This is wrong actually, income tax only kicks in if you make above a certain amount of money.

>>People are not required to buy shit and pay sales tax.
Not by law no, but if people stopped engaging in commercial transactions of any sort simply because they were poor they would likely die and the economy would grind to a halt.

>>They have no money to buy shit and cost trillions in welfare
Maybe the jobs they were suited for shouldn't have been either outsourced overseas or automated out of existence then.

>>132382523

You do realize it's not a 32% income tax, it's a 32% income tax rate increase. So the state income tax goes from 3.75% to 4.95%

>>132382523
Do you low foreheads even know what you are saying? You think the state is going to tax income at a rate of 32%? How dense are you, have you ever even had a job?
The stupidity is off the charts here.

IL is not number 1. The numbers move frequently from year to year.
Looks like WI and MN are out of the question for Chicago people's tho(as if anyone on pol would live there)
Will not break the bank, but they get enough fucking money already. Fuck they have a national financial hub for easy tax money's

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>>132396270

>>132395544
fired by a jew

she must be /ourgirl/

>>132382523
>mfw lived in Illinois my entire life
how do i obtain a nuke?

>>132392735
Chicago has plenty of jobs for you

>>132395232
>You're literally advocating theft.
Anything you gain is due to a combination of your efforts and the environment you are exerting those efforts into. You are entitled to enjoy the fruits of your labor, but you have to contribute back to the underlying system that you were working within. Taxes up to 49% are just, you still enjoy the majority share of your efforts.

>cultural improvements which incentivize and encourage charitable giving by the wealthy.

Hitler said it best, its not about charity, its about the ingrained desire to help your countrymen.

This is exactly what a tax is, its your way to help. The desire to help is one element of belonging to a nation, if you do not have this desire already, its not the nations job to make you feel it, leave, let someone else take the prosperous spot you were inhabiting who does already care.

>>132396678
the shit in human form that's benefiting from these taxes are nobody's countrymen, and anyone who leaves is only going to be replaced by another leech straining the system further

>>132395592
>complain about niggers with smartphones
>claim they dont pay sales tax because food stamps
you cant buy smartphones with food stamps

The entire welfare system needs to be reformed, its horribly inefficient and backwards in that it has a huge impact on the vote, safety nets should not be a thing one politician offers to coerce your support, it should be a thoughtless fact of life in a civilization, like taxes already are.

Unless you can freeze time though you have to keep the system going while reforming it.

>>132396508
I'm not going to move from one pathetic state to another.

>>132396950
But you can get a front row seat to the Great Illinois Collapse!

>>132396904
People are what you tell them they are. Make someone proud and they will act in a way befitting pride, call them something else and they will convince themselves to do that with pride.

Napoleon used to set up his camp along the road, and every time a group of soldiers would march by he would step out of his tent, stop them, give a little speech about how great they were, and give one a medal from his own uniform and send them on their way. Back in his tent he would replace the medal and wait for the next group.

Telling people they are worth something is the first step to making them actually worth something.

>prosperous people
are not as responsible for their own success as they like to think they are. They are as skewed as the people who take no responsibility for their failures. Everything is a combination of luck and skill, everything.

>>132395848
All vague and weak points

>>132396930
People who pay for food (non welfare recipients) do not pay sales tax on food

They are making me the whole state, from Danville to MT Carroll, pay for the monkey shines of niggers on the south side of Chicago.

>>132397776
the internet says Illinois has a sales tax on groceries

>>132382523
used to work in Chicago as a transmission line engineer and left that city because every morning was like walking through a minefield. So glad I left that shithole. Company even begged me to stay because they knew niggers couldn't fill the role.

p.s we always had some quota hires every once in a while. 80% of them would steal shit from the company and get fired within a month.

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>>132397226
Happy 4th of July!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCGoA-dZBzo

>>132398203
We do but we don't tax government assistance.

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>>132385554
>'schedule'
It's
>sked'ju'el
Not
>she'shewl

>>132398875
At that point its circular though, if you did tax it the government would just increase the assistance to compensate, the amount given in these programs is based off an estimation of how much is needed

There are people with jobs, not on welfare, who do not pay income tax. I thought thats what was being discussed here.