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Ok, so Russia and China couldn't take on the U.S.A. alone,

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Ok, so Russia and China couldn't take on the U.S.A. alone, but what are their chances if they did a combined assault? If they could get boots on the ground in the continental U.S., I think they could have a good chance just via sheer numbers. Plus North Korea would definitely chime in with what they could.

>b-but everyone in the U.S. has a gun!

for every 10 gun owners, only about 4 actively go to a shooting range and know proper maintenance. Only 2 would be doomsday prepper-tier enough to have tons of ammo stockpiled to last the whole war. As others have said before the american infrastructure is pretty flimsy at this point, so the average citizen would NOT be coordinated at all, unlike the enemy. I'd expect a shit ton of other countries to take advantage of the chaos as well (plus other threats like the muslim refugees who got into canada and the ones that got in before the travel bans).

Thoughts? I think this is the only way the U.S. could ever fall.
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what's worth invading in your ghetto hellhole?
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>>132316972
u.s. wouldn't stand a chance against china and russia combined
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>>132317157
well that was a fast thread I guess.
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>block the oil

& wait... done

Target power grid, and it'd be chaos very quick
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>>132316972
>If they could get boots on the ground
That's the real problem isn't it. That is literally a near impossibility. America has 24 hour aerial surveillance, nuclear subs and satellites scouring the oceans etc. The only way
would be the EMP strike they have been fearmongering,
which is more of a meme than a reality.
EMP would not disable our subs, which could still launch nukes in a tactical fashion, destroying convoys of incoming transports and
warships. Our military has spent billions of dollars preparing
for that scenario alone.
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>>132317157
>russians have experience forces, with reliable yet outdated tech.

China has no experience, and russian knockoff gear. All they do well is human wave attacks to have you run out of ammo.
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>>132316972
Just cut off our internets and we'll surrender withing days.
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>>132316972
If the Chinese have a half a brain (which they do) they won't rock the boat. They're too invested in the current system to destroy it. Russia is too poor to sustain a long term occupation, Iraq, Afghanistan style as for China they're too big to do it effectively (ie lose it all after a few years).

As for
>invading America
Nuke Yellowstone, take out California and Washington, enact systematic genocide on the survivors. Anyone big enough to take out the USA doesn't have to worry about international norms and conventions.
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Nope, no country will ever take any main land. It would turn into geurilla warfare with 100,000,000 gun owners. There would be no ammo shortage as there are hundreds of millions of rounds and weapons stockpiled. Any wars between us will be proxy wars, like Syria.
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>>132316972
china can't do shit even with russia's help. they are already a defeated people. russia is broke as fuck. us civilians could repel the attack alone.
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>>132318688
Of course anyone who wants to weaken the USA isn't going to attack it head on.

There are far more effective ways to do that, such as immigration, Communism, anti-intellectualism, consumerist deficit spending, fiat currencies so and so on.
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>>132317767
even if they did get boots on the ground, they wouldn't stand a chance against our 2nd amendment exercising citizens.
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>>132318948
again, you overestimate the ability of the citizens. do you think shooting guns is as easy as in the movies? and everyone will be john wick?
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>>132316972
There's no need in land invasion of US. The only goal in such war will be total destruction of US.
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>>132322532
surely the land is more useful if it isn't a nuclear wasteland
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They would need to crash the economy and then cut the power and tie up the US military in a well backed "peaceful rebel" civil war

Then the US is fucked
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>>132322231
>He doesn't train to one day become John wick tier in his freetime
Keanu is pure kino
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tpr8oqyjKIc

Kys loser
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>>132316972
>If they could get boots on the ground in the continental U.S.
Even if they did manage to just sail past the largest navy in the world it would be a logistical nightmare
Good luck getting all the supplies you need across the Atlantic/Pacific, unloading them on destroyed docks, and getting them to the front when a hostile population with the highest gun ownership per capita is in your rear
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>>132316972
Well the enemy already has boots on ground. Dont you have muslim refugees?
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they don't have the transport, seafaring or refuelling assets necessary to get across the pacific

they don't have the actual numbers to occupy us, either.
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>>132316972
If Russia and China could get through the U.S military, the U.S is fucked.

I'm sorry America, but your combined civilian defence force consisting of autistic virgins, social justice warriors, inbred retards, dindus and tacos aren't going to be enough no matter how many guns you own.

Besides
>daily reminder Russia is actually the good guy under Putin
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>>132323788
>No way to get their troops across the world
All those fuckers could do is clean out our useful idiots and force most of us underground/innawoods

They don't have enough aircraft carriers or troop transport ships to get their forces on American soil. We've been sending the biggest army in human history across the entire world conquering nations for almost 100 years. Yes we do it better than Russia or China.

Russia is only effectively able to defend Syria because they have such short, ground based supply lines from their nation to their bases in Syria
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>>132323316
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Economic damage would greatly outweigh anything they could inflict with their weakass force projection.
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Minus nuclear weapons?

The United states could with stand every other countries military all at once. Our navy and air force are untouchable.

With nuclear weapons?

A giant mess.
I can't wait until the US has a star fleet in 45 years. Warhammer 40k inc.
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>>132323935

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tpr8oqyjKIc

You don't understand what it takes to occupy a nation. The US can be turned into an underground wasteland, but you cannot conquer it by force. Their would be non-stop resistance for multiple generations from every state.

The US can only be conquered with the consent of its people. That's a blessing and a curse because we also can't be drafted for the wrong war without resisting.

The reason every intelligence agency on earth is studying 4chan's meme magic is because PUBLIC OPINION(PERCEPTION) MATTERS MORE THAN YOU THINK

WAR IS ABOUT BLUFFING AND HOPING YOUR OPPONENT DOESNT CATCH YOU WHILE YOU AVOID CALLING HIS BLUFF AT THE WRONG TIME

THE US BEING WELL ARMED AND DECENTLY TRAINED IS NOT A LIKELY BLUFF

Even California sells these after the ban. Their only serious disadvantage is comfort and mag capacity. You can even put a muzzle brake on it
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>>132323935
>ery 10 gun owners, only about 4 actively go to a shooting range and know proper maintenance. Only 2 would be doomsday prepper-tier enough to have tons of ammo stockpiled to last the whole war. As others have said before the american infrastructure is pretty flimsy at this point, so the average citizen would NOT be coordinated at all, unlike the enemy. I'd expect a shit ton of other countries to take advantage of the chaos as well (plus other threats like the muslim refugees who got into canada and the ones that got in before the travel bans).
Says the Brit that lost the revolutionary war.

Yeah . . . go ahread and try again. This is the same thought you had 200 years ago.
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It will happen
http://whygodreallyexists.com/archives/fema-and-russian-troops-invading-from-canada-a-prophetic-dream-given-to-marine-leo
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russia is a meme that can't even take ukraine. china is an even bigger meme that is scared of the philippine navy.
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>>132324426
literally the exact same thing
kek
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>>132316972
You cut their supply lines and they don't have shit.
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>>132324406
Hideous

Fucking liberals and their bullshit laws
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>>132316972
Dont you burgers have submarines and the biggest navy? How would they even transport those boots?
China never won a war.
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>>132317157
We would EASILY defeat them both. The US is the only country on Earth that can logically project force across oceans. You are fucking wrong.
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Russia right away would take Canada and mobilize 3 million chinese soldiers and a million Russian soldiers along the biggest, unprotected border in the world.


The US would quickly run through their 1.5 million soldiers and dip into draftable men for ground combat among civilians would consist of:

>12% black men, most of which hate their country
>a third Mexican men who have no nationalism and abandoned their own home country for greener pastures, if mexico is involved a lot of these soldiers would rebel
>two thirds are overweight, a third are obese and unfit to fight
>no nationalism except in the deep south, polls show only 48% of American men would consider fighting for their country
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>>132324597
> that can't even take ukraine
Russia doesn't need whole Ukraine. Even DNR/LNR is useless.
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>>132324526
Holy shit mexicans are stupid
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Why invade when you can conquer by diversity
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>>132316972
If there is one country in the world that doe not wants a war, specially a war with US, it's China.
Reason: war is bad for business.
An economically stable US is in favor of China.
Without the US who will buy crape loads of cheap shit?
How are they going to get all that money back that they gave to the US?
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>>132317157
/thread
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>>132324837
That "logically project force across oceans" thing has been working great against the taliban huh?
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>>132325263
lost to rice farmers being backed by the vietcong and having the home advantage and using guerrilla warfare.
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>>132316972
Russia and China vs. USA? The world would not survive such a conflict, quite literally. It would usher in the end of organic life on this planet.
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>>132325401
This.
That argument is so flawed.
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>>132316972
can someone give me a link to info on the statues?

honestly never seen them before, but they are magnificent.
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>>132316972
>russia + china

that's cute. try the entire world vs US and it might actually be fair
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>>132316972
They can both easily take the US alone.

All China needs to do is call in the debt, your economy would be so fucked you wouldn't be able to sustain your army anymore. China plays the long game.

Russia has enough nukes to annihilate you and the rest of the world, including itself, 10 times over.

These dumb questions of invasion have become mere retarded fantasies in the modern age.
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>>132316972
The first enemy to get massacred in your scenario aren't the invaders.

The first people to get massacred would be liberals.
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>>132325387

we only care about the opium you daft paki
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>>132316972
>If they could get boots on the ground in the continental U.S
Yep, found the problem in your plan right there you dumb faggot.

You've heard of the US Navy right? Largest navy in the world? Also has the second largest air force in the world?

Yeah, their entire job is to prevent that shit, not to mention that neither of the listed countries have enough boats to even carry the troops and supplies that they would need, not even considering these boats being armed/escorted (they would not be).
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>>132324941
Denial won't help you.
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>>132324800
Literally all it does is cost money and waste time/effort for those who follow the law

The ammo ban coming up will kill small businesses though. Idk how they got that shit passed. Who can survive on 50 rounds a month(plus background check, waiting period and fee)?
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>>132325744
nevermind, the statue itself is titled, "the Motherland Calls" read on anons
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>>132326066
No, he's correct. Mexicans on average have low intelligence. It's scientific fact, Jose.
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>>132325401
Not to mention the war lost popularity due to lefties and hippies.
>>132325263
I bet your grandparents spit on the soldiers that came home you fucking traitor
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>>132316972
>but what are their chances if they did a combined assault?

They could probably take us, but then the USA would go full Samson Option and destroy all of human life in both countries, which in turn would end human life as we know it.
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>>132326006
>can't win against cavemen
>"we don't wanna win, we only care about the opium"
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Simply call in the debt and begin to take away allies from the U.S. in terms of trade. The U.S. is on the verge of civil war, destabilising their economy will push them over the edge. When their country is in shambles, that's when you swoop in. You can speed up the process by backing different factions and arming them with weapons, including wmds.
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>>132316972
Those sure are some great sources you provided OP
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>>132316972
>Ok, so Russia and China couldn't take on the U.S.A. alone
I have bad news for you anon
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>>132326229
2 Timothy 4:4-6New Living Translation (NLT)

4They will reject the truth and chase after myths.

5But you should keep a clear mind in every situation. Don’t be afraid of suffering for the Lord. Work at telling others the Good News, and fully carry out the ministry God has given you.

6As for me, my life has already been poured out as an offering to God. The time of my death is near
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>>132326521
>wow look russia made a giant unconventional weapon
>russia wins
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>>132325893
>just call in the debt.

you'd be failing to understand a few basic principals of the debt:

first: the debt itself is denominated in dollars if we ever were against the ropes we could hypothetically print a 1-10 trillion dollar valued coin and pay it with that(has to be a coin, bills have a specific limit)

second: that's just not how debt works, if it was the banks simply would have taken their money back from the troubled loans.

third and most crucially: it's not like china leant the money in good faith, china has lots of liquid cash and US bonds are the surest bet to have money tomorrow, usually with an incredibly small amount of interest, if you can wrap your head around it there were people buying US bonds at a loss during the financial crisis just to have something guaranteed to be there tomorrow.

china plans its economy 30 years into the future, and their US denominated currency and bonds are its golden egg. if china "called in their debt" and we felt inclined to pay it, they will have eliminated trillions in value from their own bank account, everything they've worked for since the 90's, all the land toxified beyond occupation will have all been for nothing. they would have trillions of dollars and be no wealthier than india.
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>>132325155
If only you were governing Pak instead of Nawaz, what's your take on the terrorism in your country?
How efficient is your government in tackling it? Are you ever gonna come out of it and be stable progressive country with the help of Chinks?
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>>132316972
>I think this is the only way the U.S. could ever fall.
we will never fall.
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>>132326521
>Small bombs are weaker than bigger bombs
wow, you must be fucking a genius.
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All you need to defeat the US is to create enough internal chaos and wait for the citizens to tear themselves apart.
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>>132326578
>>132326878
Thanks I know i am :)
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>>132316972
Another example of how Americans completely don't understand world politics.
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>>132326393

it's called destabilization pea brain, that's why the middle east is our heavy weapons test bed and none of the shit we dish out ever comes back to us. (except that one time)
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>>132317157
Pack it up boys. You can't defeat these arguments.
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>>132316972
Dont forget 40% of US population is hispanic and blacks who would loot and kill as soon as a war starts.
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>>132325818
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>>132325818
so you're saying Saudi Arabia would win against the UK because they spend more money
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>>132326826
>what's your take on the terrorism in your country?
Depends on what you defines as "terrorism".
Our supporting for the Afghan Taliban?
Strongly against that. We have wasted too much time and money on Afghans (the most useless people on the plant). Build a wall(army already doing that) and kick them out of the country(army already doing that), and instead of supporting the Taliban we should get Russia involved (ISI already doing that).

Our supporting for the Khasmiris?
Strongly in favour of that. (sorry kumar)

>How efficient is your government in tackling it
Not that bad actually

>Are you ever gonna come out of it and be stable progressive country with the help of Chinks?
Stable? Yes.
Progressive? lol.
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>>132317157
russias military is strong an unified. chinas is not. each branch of the chinese military is a separate force and they dont like to share power with the other factions. if their army commander didnt want to play, all they would have is airforce and navy.
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>>132316972
If there was ever a foreign war on American soil, the people would put up one hell of a fight. Most have no military training but there are a lot of guns in America, and there are also millions and millions of people who are just itching to shoot at shitskins and foreigners of any color. The only way a foreign entity would ever be able to take over America would be to just start nuking everyone, but then what would they have? They'd have possession of a nuclear wasteland. Not really worth it
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>>132327181
>"we spend $2.4 trillion on a war to test weapons"
You are a dump ass faggot aren't you?
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>>132327484

don't you have a relative to fuck, don't ever talk back to me you inbred shit
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>>132327145
anyone else ever see shit so retarded that you just dont even know what to say?
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>>132327616
I'm not from Alabama.
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>ignoring the BBC (Big British Carrier)
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>>132316972
>Ok, so Russia and China couldn't take on the U.S.A. alone, but what are their chances if they did a combined assault?
We couldn't because of the fleet and two oceans separating us. Considering your industrial complex is sitting on the shores you'd be so fucked in case of real invasion.
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>>132327652

calm down, the inbreeding is what makes you impulsive and shitty

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12346199
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>>132327709
They'll be lucky to have "enough planes to fill the runway" on that thing.
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>>132325263
We never really lost that many guys, just pulled out because people didn't like fighting someone else's war. Check out Russian and Afghanistan, you can't win a war against partisans unless you are willing to kill off citys and or they like you.
For instance we annihilated ghadaffis army in a matter of days, but we still can't wrap up insurgent terrorism.
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>>132327835
What are you suppose to do when you have hot cousins? Let someone else fuck them? Not on my watch.
Don't worry about me my fat diabetic friend. Worry about mommy getting a black boy friend.
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>>132327974

you're not supposed to fuck your cousins at a 50% rate, that's why you're all googly eyed and half tarded.
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>>132316972
The Chinese have never lead an invasion. They predate Christ by about 10,000 years
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>>132328119
Better then having heart disease, diabetes and autism.
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Now, assuming no participants use nukes, and no other US allies get involved,
>US has massive advantages in naval and air superiority
>And better equipment
Frankly I'd be surprised if they even get boots on US soil. Some coastal cities might be bombed but that's about it. Their only advantage is in numbers and that means jack shit if they can't actually make it to the US
If this whole mess really happened NATO would be obligated to back the US up so that'd go real well.
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>>132316972
>coordinated like the enemy
Two completely seperate militaries who speak different languages and have laughable logistics launching a joint attack across the ocean on what is one of the most absurd places to invade geographically.
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>>132316972
And how the fuck are China and Russia supposed to get an invasion force large enough onto US soil even?
There is no way China or Russia could mass an invasion force strong enough as it would be sunk on the Atlantic and Pacific ocean before they even have made it halfway accross the damn sea.
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>>132328266

shush little inbred, go back to your toys
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>>132327652
>>132328266
damn great comebacks pakibro
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>>132328426
Learn how to banter or get off this website faggot.
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>>132316972
they couldn't get anybody over here. our navy is like the brits in the 17-1800s in it's dominance. nothing is impossible, but the likelihood of enemy soldiers entering the continental USA is next to nil
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>>132328520

is this your dad
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>>132316972

Why do people propose this shit? Every country has spent years expanding economically and militarily into other regions. You discount alliances that have been around for decades to centuries and expect a real answer? The U.S.'s strength is the strength of the Islamic Republic of the United Kingdom, Japan, New Zealand, Canada, and a good chunk of NATO countries.

Besides, nowadays the most destructive weapon is economics. And you don't need munitions to drop those bombs.
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>>132328520

>pakistan

can you guys be a little nicer to the Shia population in Quetta and Parachinar pls
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>>132316972
yeah, they'd only have to go through every single military base in europe or cross through 10 aircraft carriers, a metric shit ton of submarines and destroyers or lastly take their chances in the air to just finally touch down on U.S soil
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>>132317094
Our purple mountains' majesty and waves of amber grain.
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>>132328580
It's properly because of your autism you are unable to read the situation here, so let me make it clear. You are embarrassing yourself now, stop posting. Time to get to your job at Walmart.
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>>132328765
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>>132316972
possibly the ugliest statue ever made on earth. How did the russians let this happen for christs sake? they usually have pretty good taste.
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>>132328650
I'm not the one doing all that. I'm nice to everyone. Look how nice I am to this (>>132328797) autistic man.
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>>132316972
How are they going to supply the millions of troops they'd need for this "sheer numbers" strategy?

They don't even have battleworthy carriers. They'd have to build a bridge across the Bering Strait then march for thousands of miles.
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>>132325263
>58 000 american soldiers KIA or missing
>4 000 000 chinks dead
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>>132316972
Russia and China can't wage war on another continent. They don't have the equipment, the experience or the finances to afford it. What makes America's military a threat around the globe is the single best military logistics system ever created. Logistics is what wins or loses a war in a foreign nation. If you can't move your troops where they need to be and keep them supplied, you can't fight. America's military is designed around fighting on other continents, a thing they learned from the World Wars. No other nations' military is as good at doing that. Not even the Brits at the height of their naval power were as good. They just had weaker, more primitive targets to fight. No Russia or Chinese troops will ever set foot in America. And if they did, they'd all die.
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>>132328964

kek'd
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>>132316972
>If they could get boots on the ground
They can't.
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>>132329065
>Logistics is what wins or loses a war in a foreign nation. If you can't move your troops where they need to be and keep them supplied, you can't fight.
This to be honest. Armies win battles, logistics win wars.
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>>132325263
America won every single major engagement with the Vietcong. We killed over 100 Vietcong for every American soldier lost. Eventually we just pulled out of the war because it was unpopular politically back home. We also couldn't attack their troops hiding in Cambodia. Every time they crossed back into Vietnam we killed them, but the rest would just hide across the border again.
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>>132328964
kek
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>>132328399
>And how the fuck are China and Russia supposed to get an invasion force large enough onto US soil even?
Yes.

And the US would be BTFO if it tried to invade Russia and if it got into a land war in Asia it would just loose after awhile anyway.
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>>132329240
u think the vietcong would have surrendered if we had nuked hanoi?
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>>132324800
All the "banned features" aren't actually banned for sale, just banned to put on the rifle. They can be easily converted to real AR's if needed. You can also buy pinned 10/30 mags and drill out the pin to convert them back to 30. Of course that's all illegal, but we're talking a hypothetical situation with foreign troops invading.
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>>132329645
They did surrender, see the Paris oeace accords. Our bombing of the north is where the term carpet bombing came from. What happened was after the surrender we failed to provide material support to the south so they didnt have the capability to fight off the north when they attacked, which we assumed they would. We didnt provide support because traitorous democrats withheld funding in congress, even after oresident Ford literally begged them to fund.
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>>132328733
>our purple drank diversity and waves of beaner crime
fify
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>>132328865
Why is it ugly?
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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