What is /pol/'s opinion on Buddhism? My friend told me it

Normie bluepill

Eh, it's pretty damn close to a red pill but not really.
There's too much mythology around it.
For example, true enlightenment isn't actually achievable, though it IS something you can keep working towards to better yourself.
If you spend your life imitating Buddah, you will actually lose a bit of your self.

>>132312119

Decide for yourself, the Dhammapada is a short text that is considered to contain the core of Buddha's teachings.

http://www.buddhanet.net/pdf_file/scrndhamma.pdf

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>>132312119
Also, how does sitting cross-legged meditating magically make you (supposedly) more empathetic and happy?

From what I hear, it is mostly empirical, and basically follows the scientific method... you just have to do it yourself. That's intriguing and unique amongst major religions

>>132312356
>you will actually lose a bit of your self.
bit if, as Busshism claims, the self is false, you simply gain insight into how things always were. Agree about the mythology though, that's a turn off. What if I just meditate for a long ass time and not become Buddhist?

Buddhism is not a red pill; Buddhism teaches that there are no red pills.

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>>132312772
wouldn't tat then be the ultimate redpill? To know that there really is no such thing?

>>132312457
Isn't the sitting cross legged shit just used to sell "much eastern philosophy" to soccermoms.

>>132312772
but that's why it IS the red pill...

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>>132313873
You are missing the point. Look at how many people on this website pursue and cling to the idea of the 'redpill' as some sort of indicator of how to live their life by. Despite the fact there is no clear definition of what the red pill is exactly people come onto 4chan asking if 'x is redpilled' or how to redpill their girlfriends, friends and so on. It is representative of the many insecure, angry and isolated individuals who come here in search of a surrogate community to give them a sense of purpose and a sense of place yet it is insufficient for their overall happiness and for providing a meaningful existence beyond reifying their isolation, frustration and confusion.

>>132312119
Suicide is easier

>>132314232
meh, I guess. From my exensive sdtufying, meditation can be executed just as effectively sitting in achar (so long as you remain aware and mindful since that's what counts). Again, this is just from reading, never tried it

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>>132312119
You should watch The Zen of ZFG, which incorporates some elements of Buddhist philosophy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5V0_FK_vz8

>>132314468
I guess it's not that bad then, good for business, at least for the male teachers, if these "single wives" fall for it.

The main teaching of Buddhism - the root of suffering is attachment and aversion. Meditate hard, focus on your focusing, pay attention to your attention, learn to experience life without attachment and aversion, and learn to act completely in the moment without being attached to any result.

Eventually, you will learn to hold even your own body and your own mind quite loosely. You will realize death is no big deal, it is only a natural change, a transformative stage in an eternal cycle. Death is like taking off a shoe that's too tight.

>>132312119
Sure bud there's nothing and no one to look forward to so fuck it.

>>132312119
I was brainwashed Catholic as I grew up, and it actually caused me a lot of mental distress because I didn't want to believe in it, there was too much shit that I learned from religious studies that showed how Catholicism was really just a garbage religion. My distaste was also caused by my local Catholic community. So I began a personal form of meditation inspired by Zen Buddhism, and I loved learning and practicing Zen. I enjoy the sacredness of it, but I try not to become a crazy wackjob like most white people who start to practice Buddhism, "Mah spiritualness blah blah"

Black Pill, literally. Rather kys now if you consider it red pilled

>>132312457
sitting lotus with good posture is about the blood flow from the head

straight posture makes you feel more awake then slouching over, more "in the moment" which is quite important in buddhism

Bs like every other religion

>>132314232
Not going to lie, idiots love to buy anything that has the title "Buddhist" or Meditation" for it. There are fucking mats that you can buy for meditation that are absurdly overpriced, so I never bought one, because its just a scam in America.

As for sitting cross legged, it's mostly tradition that American Buddhists have tried to copy. Started in Hinduism, where Raja Yogis believed that in order to enter deep meditation, you must sit up straight and cross your legs in either a full lotus or half lotus, so that your breathing can be much more relaxed. Don't ask me how that involves your legs. But when your breathing was relaxed, then you wouldn't be distracted by it when you began deep meditation.

>>132312119
It is definitely enlightening. Forget any teaches past Siddhartha Gautama.

The goal is to gain Nirvana and to not have to be reborn again. If everyone is Buddhist no one has sex and no one has children, so no one is reborn.

This is the Karma, the Balance that is fundamental in the universe. Buddha never stated what the "right" answer is just the facts.

This is the red pill. The universe does not give a fuck about us. Perhaps the ultimate goal is to not exist physically. Who the fuck knows?

But Buddha definitely states the facts clearly and demonstrated karma and balance in the universe and how once should live according to these facts.

>>132312119
I will tell you if you beg me to do so

>>132312609
Probably more positive if you're turned off by it. It's more effective in terms of self reflection than say prayer or whatever you might have tried.

>>132312119
All is one!?

>>132312119

You would think if the floating around and transcendent shit was real, after some few hundred or thousand years everybody would be doing it. It wouldn't be locked up in some secret mountain only Brad Pitt and Batman can get to.

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>>132312119
They seem to be a beacon of hope in a dying world.

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>>132312119
Religion = Church + Faith
Buddhism = Church - Faith
Its pretty cool, but we will likely see it become absolved into some sort of "Far-East" Christianity.
Allegedly, Catholocism and Chrisstianity are starting to become more popular in larger Asian coutnries that normally abstain from Faith based "religions".

>>132312119
buddha and shiva are real iv met them
im not a shitskin or asian, i never knew them before i met them

>>132315018
they told me to sit indian style and i left my body and ascended into the heavens

the connections between meditation and dmt realease is crazy. having experienced complete ego loss on 5meodmt, its insanely similar to what you read about in buddhist enlightenment. look into that shit

>>132312119
Literally the only belief system that the leader of claims that any beliefs that are disproven by science will be abandoned. As someone that has achieved Zen, yes, it is the ultimate red pill. If you meet the Buddha, kill the Buddha. The universe is a mostly dark and cold and empty place and doesn't give a shit about humanity and their struggles. Suffering exists. Life is suffering. The source of suffering is desire. One can reduce suffering by walking the eightfold path.

>>132316025
Are you retarded?

Anyway, Buddhism is based. It attracts a lot of "dude weed lmao" but if the deeper you get into it, the more it can snap you out of that idiocy. It's not all love, peace, and harmony. A lot of it is, but if you can't appreciate those things on some level, then you're probably a hopeless moron.

See: Ashin Wirathu

>>132312119
All I know is that I have felt true happiness just by meditation, and I feel like I could have done better.

We are not meant to feel like we do....Buddhism really is the true path. You will not reach Nirvana because you will not follow it strictly. Maybe it is impossible but you will truly feel happy.

That problem you have? It's not a problem. You'll think about everything differently see with your third eye. You senses can only see what TPTB want you to see. The third eye is invariant and will always see truth. Your real eyes were supposed to just augment your third eye. Your third eye is your thoughts. Want to see clearly with your third eye? Practicing meditation is the path.

Removes kebab, true religion of peace.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtAl9zJ3t-M

it's stupid. The premise that you can transcend the cycle of life is ridiculous, and we have no evidence of souls or reincarnation

>>132319290
Have you considered it is not about you?

The universe does not care about good or bad. It just is. Something cares about good or bad: us.

Who creates good or bad? Us.

Remove us and we reach Nirvana and transcend the cycle of life.

>>132312356
>For example, true enlightenment isn't actually achievable
Where are you getting this from? It's 100% achievable and I've met monks who I'm 99.9% sure had reached at least the lower levels of enlightenment.

>Also, how does sitting cross-legged meditating magically make you (supposedly) more empathetic and happy?
It doesn't. Meditation is a tool and it's not one that's specific to Buddhism. What Buddhism does is teach a specific path of mental training using meditation, among other tools, in order to comprehend the true nature of suffering so that you can free yourself from it. You could meditate 8 hours a day but it wouldn't do you any good if you weren't doing it with the right purpose in mind.

>>132312457
that is just a way of sitting.
Meditation is not supposed to make you happy or empathetic.
Meditation is not a tool for gain something.
you can meditate sit in the greek way.
also most of greek thinkers used to meditate.
Christians priests and monks developed some of the most technically complex kind of meditations, Jesus was said to keep up long periods of adoration without saying any prayer.
Meditation is not a way to have a prize,it is the prize.
Ofc ,if you go in a crowded place with your gay polystyrene carpet your just virtue signalling ,and at the most you are doing the hippy.

>>132319766
Enlightenment is definitely reachable.

For example, you can know about the pedophile rings and know you should not buy that nintendo switch because (they) wan you to consume. But you don't really do anything about the pedo ring because you cannot anyway and you go ahead and buy that nintendo switch anyway to be happyish.

Congrats, you reached enlightenment but cannot act it out. That is a whole other story. That is nirvana.

>>132312119
Sage

>>132320315

Son, you obviously have no idea what you're talking about and you need to knock it off. I understand that you read a couple books about the Asian fanfiction version of Buddhism and you think you've got it all figured out but the kind of nonsense you've been posting in this thread is one of the prime things that turns so many intelligent, rational people away from Buddhism.

>>132319613

>13 year olds understanding of buddhism

>>132318361
yo did you meet buddha or shiva? isnt ego loss the most beautiful thing ever? i experienced it on a lot of fresh field shrooms

>>132312119
To understand Buddhism just listen to Pink Floyd's Eclipse.

>>132312119
every white man should read the dhammapada by the buddha and meditations by marcus aurelius. they are remarkably similar and i think they can help bridge the gap between pagan larpers and christian moralfags

>>132318361
im pre sure i took a lethal amount of shrooms and died physically, which set off my pineal gland, producing enough dmt to get me into the heavens, im almost certain that will happen again to me if i die in a peaceful state, or try dmt, god dam i want some dmt so bad

>>132315449
Your tailbone and knees form a tripod of support. It's about being rooted- not metaphorically but literally, firmly in place

>>132322017
>t. guy who doesn't understand Buddhism

Buddha told his followers to avoid listening to music.

>>132322504
Tell that to my mom. She'all be glad I came back to the Christian church.

>t. Buddhist for almost a decade now

>>132322504
music is a huge distraction, when you get up into the heavens you hear shapes.. and and like magical bell tones and chimes its so crazy fuck i want some dmt, ego detachment from dmt is the ultimate red pill, it makes these worldly things instantly forgettable

>>132312119

not as psychotic as the (((Abrahamic))) religions but like most eastern religions it is basically a philosophy to keep you a good docile serf, literally "let go of your desires so you won't suffer, don't care about anything lmao" so people wouldn't stand up against their feudal masters as they enslaved them and raped their wives

>>132322504
Bantz aside though it's about detachment from earthly pleasures. To get scientific, kitties don't like Peter Gabriel, fish don't understand B#; enjoying music is a human thing. We choose to be happy when we hear it. This is the "problem." Additionally, (((music))) isn't the best in 2017

>>132322726
Better give your mom a call, then.

>http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/sn/sn47/sn47.007.than.html
>"For this reason, you should not wander into what is not your proper range and is the territory of others. In one who wanders into what is not his proper range and is the territory of others, Mara gains an opening, Mara gains a foothold. And what, for a monk, is not his proper range and is the territory of others? The five strands of sensuality. Which five? Forms cognizable by the eye - agreeable, pleasing, charming, endearing, fostering desire, enticing. Sounds cognizable by the ear... Aromas cognizable by the nose... Flavors cognizable by the tongue... Tactile sensations cognizable by the body - agreeable, pleasing, charming, endearing, fostering desire, enticing. These, for a monk, are not his proper range and are the territory of others."

Buddhism is queer but transcendental meditation is the bee's penis

>>132323059
You're getting too specific. It's the difference between st Augustine and st francis. A life of pure denial isn't what Buddhism means. If you kbownyour stuff you'll remember Buddha even tried that for some time. Music isn't just entertainment, it's a universal language

>>132323298
I do feel as though I'm peeking into the soul/mind of the musician whilst listening

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>>132312119
the ultimate red pill was Greco-Buddhism when Greeks ruled over Afghanistan and the religion was a mix of Stoicism/Theravada
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greco-Buddhism

>>132323441
Here's where you fucked UP
>you are
>specific soul
>another person

>>132312119
Your friend is retarded.
Trust in Jesus.

>>132323691
^

>>132323646
So.... everyone and everything is God?

>>132312609
You will stop caring about all this ideology bullshit and actually begin to enjoy your life again.

I cut my time on /pol/ by at least 50% since I started meditating regulary (30 min in the morning 30 min before bed)

>>132323765
youre probably Christian-raised. In terms you'll understand:
>can a kitty have the holy spirit?
In true Buddhist fashion, I won't give you an answer. Enjoy this for the rest of your life

>>132323298

Getting too specific by not trying to distort the Buddha's teachings? This is just one example and I could provide you with plenty of other places in the suttas that back this up. The dangers and drawbacks of the five strands of sensuality are mentioned all over. When the Buddha literally says, "You should not..." and you try to rationalize it, I'm not sure what you think you're achieving.

I frequently see dilettantes attempt to use their flawed understanding of the concept of a middle path as an excuse for indulging in a variety of sense pleasures but even a casual study will show you that this sort of thing is cautioned against strongly and repeatedly.

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theres also pure land buddhism which is popular in China and which is essentially a series of messianic cults, and they actively state meditation is a waste of time and that you should just pray to Bodhisattvas.

>>132323872
If all Buddhists are this pretentious I'm gonna stick with the good book

>>132314398
Good post.
Even better will be the feeling once they realise it themselves throught meditation.

One thing that shattered all of my ideological clings was the moment when I realised how fucking worthless all this knowledge is. A retard that actually does things even unknowingly will have more success than all of these pseudo intellectuals in the masturbatoriums on here.
It literally makes no difference if you tell it to them or not. It just doesn't reach the point where it actually makes impact on their lifes. Ever.

>>132323961
Anon, I understand and agree with you, but the root issue isn't music, it's human interaction with it. Only sounds made by earth are legitimate? No! The takeaway point is to be detached from it effecting you in any way. I'm too tired to debate this, but thanks for quality posts and thanks everyone for making a nice thread without shills for once.

>>132323566

I considered myself a Stoic before I became a Therada Buddhist and I find no conflict between the two. They're generally very complimentary. But since there aren't any philosophy schools where you can go to be trained by the Stoics, if you want to practice a living religion then Theravada is your best bet.

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>>132312119
Yellow Christianity. Next!

>>132312119
Very underrated values of self-improvement, wish it were more popular.

>>132314799
That's the way.

If you manage to not swing hard into the other direction (fedora tipping atheist) than you have achieved a lot.

All of these pagan and Christian fags around here just can't take responsibility for a good life beyond their indoctrinated pathways.

>>132324010
Hehehe that's good too anon. In some schools the teachers hit the students on the head while they meditate. One time this wanna-be supposedly meditated for a long ass time by himself, claimed to be enlightened and write a short poem about the four winds or w/e and sent that to an enlightened monk for confirmation he was enlightened. The enlightened monk sent his poem back but crossed out Winds and put Farts lololol.

>>132312119
Buddha was a pedophile.

>>132312119
Buddha was a kiddy fiddler.

>>132315018
The Lotus posture is actually not recommended at all for westerners. In India they train this sick childhood.

It is also not mandatory at all. Observing your thoughts and emotions can be done even while doing work after a while.

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>>132312119
>tfw Buddhism teaches life is suffering and reality is an illusion

>tfw you explain that you think life is suffering and reality is an illusion with out even using the term Buddhism to a psychologist and she tells you that you are suffering from schizophrenia

Psychology is a fucking joke

>>132324010

They're absolutely not. Please ignore him. I don't know why this kind of person likes to latch onto Buddhism but guys like these
>>132322872
>>132320315
>>132324195
take this bizarre mix of new age spirituality and hippie drug culture, sprinkle it with some superficial understanding of Buddhism, and go around passing themselves off as enlightened Buddhist and posting silly masturbatory nonsense like you see in these posts.

I became a Buddhist about ten years later than I otherwise would have because I encountered these people everywhere and wrongly assumed that they were real Buddhists and that their pseudo-spiritual babble was what one could expect from Buddhism.

>>132315061
It is not a religion you mart sharter.
It lacks many core characteristics of the other (((religions)))

>>132316610
Stop watching so much television you tard.

>>132317852
Actually it's faith -church

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>>132312119
Buddha was known for his diddling.

>>132324807
>lewd

>>132317852
That's because christianity is the perfect ideology for poor people.

Way, WAY better than buddhism.

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>>132324399
satan dubbs.

>>132324854
He was a rude lewd dude with a bigot's big fat tude and a big tube of lube.

>>132318385
>Why da universe not my sky mommy that takes care of me >:o

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>>132314398
>t. buddha

>>132325032
I thought buddhism practiced fasting why is he fat if they do this ?

>>132324807

Sorry to ruin it for you anon, but that's a Chinese folk deity who has nothing to do with the Buddha.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budai
>In the West, the image of Budai is often mistaken for that of Gautama Buddha, and is hence called the Fat Buddha

>>132324612
:/ for me personally I know I won't reach nirvana, and I feel honestly called to the field of social work and politics because I am 100% dedicated to fixing this broken world, so I am sacrificing a lot in my personal life to become something larger than myself. I accept I'm not the best Buddhist, but don't insult me anon. I hate those faggots that shop at third planet too, I'm just trying to generally inform the other posters on a topic I personally deal with irl. Maybe you'd like to explain to >>132324010 what the lesson of >>132323872 is. I'm pooping rn so I'm actually not in bed yet but gonna stop posting after this.

>>132318876
Most people know that feeling if they have had a happy childhood.

Literally 90% of the millenials became such faggots in their early teens.

Also avoid all this spiritual language. You will always be misunderstood. You would also not walk into the hood and recite Shakespeare.

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>>132322085
You sound like a degenerate addict.

>>132312119
Most noobs in buddhism are bluepilled normies. Their are secrets hidden within the esoteric teachings however...

>>132323011
You don't choose shit you retard. Either you enjoy it or you don't

>>132325459
You aren't supposed to let other things make you happy or sad anon. That's the core idea.
(Sorry I lied nite nite niggas)

>>132323691
>trust in the guy who trusted judas

Good one. Are there more of those ?

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>>132312119
Have there been like any scientific studies on what type of meditation actually produces the best health benefits?

> seriously anyone know this?

>>132325218

I'm not saying it to insult you, I'm just saying that your posts in this thread are purely pretentious ignorance. You're welcome to believe and practice whatever and however you want, but when you try to pass off your nonsense as real Buddhism then you do nothing but dissuade people from giving it a real chance.

>>132312119

Yes.

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>>132318385
>One can reduce suffering by walking the eightfold path
>eightfold path
>the octet

>>132312119

All religions are blue pills.

>>132324581
There is a reason that we abandoned (((siegmund freud)))

>>132312119

buddhism is just esoteric newspeak for hippie faggots

>>132322504
Did Buddha say to stop listening to music? The story I've heard involving one of his followers trying to tune his instrument says otherwise: that music is a beautiful thing, but the desire to play it or use it as a career will always lead to disappointment.
It's been a long time since I've read that book though, you guys have inspired me to pick it up again.

>>132325333
Tripps.

>>132325652

Any kind of meditation will help reduce stress if done regularly. Most studies that have been done on the topic have used awareness of breathing types of meditation (due to their popularity) but any kind of meditative focus should have a similar effect. If you're just concerned with getting the basic health benefits then it shouldn't matter too much what kind of meditation you're doing.

>>132325142
Only the Japanese buddha statues have these forms. I am not sure why but in India and China he is always lean.

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>>132325876
>life is suffering
>"I don't agree with that" - she says

What fucking reference point of not being could a person make that statement from and how is the natural occurring event of aging while you wither away and die not suffering. As soon as she told me schizophrenia I thought about the time when they used to stick ice picks in peoples eye balls to take out part of there brain as a cure.

>>132325652
Yes.
On the surface it has positive effects on your blood pressure and the Grey matter in your brain increases over time.

>>132325652

http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2011/01/eight-weeks-to-a-better-brain/

>>132325882
>Did Buddha say to stop listening to music?
see
>>132323059

He doesn't say that music is bad or that beautiful music isn't enjoyable, but that it's a distraction from the path and something that should be avoided by serious practitioners. This is the cause for all sense pleasures and the suttas are full of analogies explaining the folly of trying to find any real or lasting pleasure from them.

>>132325871
>>132326235

Wrong coment

Fundamenturu teaching in Buddhism is No Purpose.
When you drop a fart you don't say I am going to drop a fart at 9 pm. It happens of its own

>>132312119

Yes. Realizing that everything is suffering is the ultimate red pill. Also, meditation is a great way to relieve stress, feel happier and more relaxed. Everyone can benefit from daily meditation

Buddhism is fucking gay. The only true red-piller about reality is the Christian Psychic Edgar Cayce, who could go into a trance and tap into supernatural knowledge. You know, if you learn about him, you will have a good source, with everyone there is always something that they make mistakes on but not with him, he is perfect

>>132314334

A
not a
therefore A

>>132312119
Buddhism is a fedora-tier religion for libtards for whom josephs wifes son isnt a big enough cuck

>>132326392
>Buddhism is fucking gay
The teachings of Jesus are divine and has the potential to guide humanity to a greater era.
But haven't you ever wondered what Jesus was doing in his 20s? The most important part of a human beings life?
Surely he wasn't traveling the globe and hearing the teachings of Buddah... Surely... That would be ludicrous.

>>132319613

I hate to break it to you, but I care, and I'm part of the universe.

>>132327023
I never said that he was listening to Buddha wtf. Buddha came after Jesus. Somewhere around his 20s Jesus started his ministry.

>>132327361
>Buddha came after Jesus.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddha
>He is believed to have lived and taught mostly in the eastern part of ancient India sometime between the sixth and fourth centuries BCE.

>>132327490
I mixed B.C.E with C.E., oops

>>132327361
He wasn't listening to Buddha directly since Buddha was about 500 years before Jesus. Unless Jesus was a time traveler, which seems possible given the story...

No, I strongly doubt The Christ was incubating in Bethlaham all his life and just had those thoughts come to him. It's likely he traveled to the east and elsewhere, as his apostles did, to gain as much insight as possible into divinity and the truth.

That's my take on it anyways. If I may ask, do you happen to be Catholic?

>>132327340

You are a sodomite who will burn in hell because you hated the knowledge of God when you were shown it and neither were you thankful. Romans 1 describes how you got there and says you are a reprobate.

The Dalai-Lama is actually pretty redpilled. He told some german newspaper that the migrant can't change germany and europe into an arabic country and that they should go back home when they can.

>>132324612
dude fuck off mr high and mighty buddhist iv seen the light, iv mingled with shiva and buddha for hours, you cant tell me shit nigger iv been blessed by the most powerful, i never planned on seeking them while dead from shrooms, they called me

>>132324010
bro dont listen to these pretentious faggets they are not true representatives of its teachings, shiva is a shit ton more powerful than buddha but they are friends, yes we are all part of them, they control the universe, i didnt seek my spiritual awakening nor did i have any knowledge of shiva or buddha before, they chose to bring me up to the heavens and bless me, life is simple yet so complex, we are all part of everything

>>132328046
I'm sorry to say but you seem to be the most misguided ITT
Quit looking for the answer in drugs. You seem to desire them pretty strongly. And so what happens AFTER that dmt trip? You're back here.
You do seem like a decent person though. It would do you good to stop and just smell the roses. Sit down and meditate. I'll be happy to join you :)

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>>132312119
>My friend told me it is actually the ultimate red-pill regarding the true nature of reality

your friend sounds like a cultist

>>132328046
>>132328348

Yeah, that's the stuff. Whenever you guys see this kind of mindless babbling that makes you think, "This is either a teenager or a burnt out drug addict" then you are completely right in thinking so. They are just as confused and deluded as they appear to be and I really don't understand why they find such enjoyment in going around claiming to be Buddhists.

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Really a pussy religion, and that Dalai lama fella, big pussy. Sad!

>>132327776
I say this because I believe it that you should forget about Buddhism and Buddha completely. Hinduism or Sikhism is way superior.

>>132312119
Hinduism for Plebs

>>132329381
Literally the first Indian flag I've seen since the new flag rollout.
Bravo to your bravery, Pajeet.

And to your comment, you're probably right, but the Hinduism rabbit hole is far too deep for a westerner like me to understand. Where should I start, and don't say The Vedas.

>>132329704
Start at the upnishads or Geeta

Resources

>Bhagavad Gita
http://www.bhagavad-gita.org/index-english.html

>Upanishads
http://www.hinduwebsite.com/upanishadindex.asp

>Vedas
http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/

>MAHABHARATA by C Rajagopalachari
http://www.gita-society.com/section3/mahabharata.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwiHrferzdbSAhXIQ48KHXpjBfIQFggnMAA&usg=AFQjCNEVJFySM166gELxlwp_gULUgD7yjw&sig2=KRg3OHxt-7NTN7O0TaIkYw

>Ramayan Anime
https://youtu.be/rAM9x_GF9VY

The whole point of buddhism is to realise your truest identity as awareness.

This has the following implications:
1) you can never be your thoughts/beliefs/feelings as they can only happen WITHIN awareness

2) as you slowly realise that you are awareness, awareness (you) disidentifies from heavy-held belief structures (not talking about practical beliefs but more psychological beliefs) and thoughts.

3) As awareness keeps on disidentifying with ego (which is the mass of all beliefs/thoughts /feelings about life/you etc) you realise thoughts/feelings/beliefs have no power over you anymore.

4) you eventually live your life from that space of awareness rather than ego. you can still USE ego and mind (which are now at low emotional momentum due to your disidentification), but you are no longer dominated by it.

5) as you are no longer dominated by ego/feelings/thoughts, you feel a sense of peace and power about life and yourself and that is an excellent platform to live your life.

I'd say check out Adyashanti's stuff with an open mind if you are interested. Calmdownmind.com is a good site as well.

>>132331356
>http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/sn/sn22/sn22.001.than.html

>Ven. Sariputta said: "Now, how is one afflicted in body & afflicted in mind?
>"There is the case where an uninstructed, run-of-the-mill person — who has no regard for noble ones, is not well-versed or disciplined in their Dhamma; who has no regard for men of integrity, is not well-versed or disciplined in their Dhamma — assumes form (the body) to be the self, or the self as possessing form, or form as in the self, or the self as in form. He is seized with the idea that 'I am form' or 'Form is mine.' As he is seized with these ideas, his form changes & alters, and he falls into sorrow, lamentation, pain, distress, & despair over its change & alteration.
>"He assumes feeling to be the self...perception to be the self...(mental) fabrications to be the self...consciousness to be the self, or the self as possessing consciousness, or consciousness as in the self, or the self as in consciousness. He is seized with the idea that 'I am consciousness' or 'Consciousness is mine.' As he is seized with these ideas, his consciousness changes & alters, and he falls into sorrow, lamentation, pain, distress, & despair over its change & alteration."
>"This, householder, is how one is afflicted in body and afflicted in mind.

Also, having briefly researched Adyashanti, I hope you realize that the simple fact that he's charging money for his Dhamma teachings is by itself sufficient cause to dismiss him as someone worth learning from.

Free Tibet

>>132331036
That anime was good though.
Isn't there a new one in thai-a space opera type?

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Stop identifying with your mind.

>>132312119
>Be Buddhist
>Believe in nothing
>Pray to nothing
>Life is hellhole
>Die

BASED

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>>132312119
i think a lot of the teachings are corrupted in general.

Gnostic Christianity is the strongest redpill. there is a monotheistic creator to the soul, and he sacrificed his son for your sins.

>>132332639
i swear I don't think this guy poops.

Buddhism is as red-pilled as any religion can get.

Its basically "mind your own shit and leave everyone else alone or you're gonna be reborn as trash".

The whole world would be better if everyone is Buddhist.

>>132312119
idk, this whole "detach from world" seems like bullshit to me, rather than doing that, one ought to take responsibility and try to improve his reality

>>132333282
the new testament is a book that is largely about rejecting worldly desires.

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>>132333333
>>1323333333

>>132333361
and? I'm not a christian. I'm a stoicist(whatever that means today) christianity is just stoicism infected with semitic ideas.

>>132312119
A sheltered spoilt rich boy who saw how life isn't always easy and abandoned his family while sitting under a tree and telling people how much life sucks.

A nigger and goth mindset in one.

Shit religion. Hinduism is far superior.

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>>132333559
well, I'm just going to have to tell you that you're wrong, and the NT is largely hindu in its symbolism.

Jesus likes to laugh, and smile, he made a joke of his crucifixion. he wasn't this stoic figure everyone makes him out to be.

>>132313956
Wtf I hate the Dalai Lama now.

>>132312119
Buddha was a beta cuck faggot

Trust me I know this shit

He left his home and responsibilities to "better" the lives of plebs, which he could have done with his unlimited resources as a king.

>>132333929
Nepali anon understands

>>132318361
Yeah I took 10 grams of shrooms once and sat on a mountain with my best mate. Changed my life.

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>>132333559
also the teachings of the world religions generally teach that improving the realities of others out of charity and love improves your own inner world and reality. here's the religion redpill if you haven't had it already.

>>132320817
Can you please post some sources for reading friend?

>>132333559
I like Stoicism but not its pantheism, which I find illogical and circular. What do?

>>132334009
>grew up as a prince in a protected bubbles
>time to get married
>has to "know" his people before becoming king
>goes out to real world, see people suffering
>waaaaa why are they suffering while im the fucking Prince!!! this is not fair!! muh royal privilege
>marries a beautiful princess and have son
>still feels guilt of his privileges
>leaves wife and whole kingdom and runs away to India
>starves for months to get "knowledge" to end world suffering
>doesn't happen
>becomes a hippie faggot smoking dank MJ
>muh world love and peace
>muh marxism, donate what you don't need
hurrrr hurrr

Buddha was a beta fag cuck before Swedes and Germans of current year. lmao

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I just finished reading "Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind" yesterday. It's a VERY good book, coming from a Christian who thought that Buddhism was fluff + self-abnegation + meditation + nonsense. In reality, everything I found in the book resonated with me strongly.
>"The purpose of studying Buddhism is not to study Buddhism, but to study ourselves"
>"Zen is not some kind of excitement, but concentration on our usual everyday routine."

>132312356
Soto Zen has very little to do with mythology. In fact, contemporary buddhists like Shunryu Suzuki never even talk about it -- he doesn't even talk about enlightenment all that often either. What he stresses more than anything is the need for our zen "practice" to permeate every part of our lives so that we have the same calmness when working and doing chores as we do in zazen (sitting meditation). What's particularly ironic is that the statement "true enlightenment isn't actually achievable, though it IS something you can keep working towards to better yourself" could almost come from Shunryu himself. For Soto Zen Buddhists (think Suzuki or Dogen), enlightenment IS practice. There was a great book in the quote that's roughly "if you are unhappy with your state of mind in zazen when you follow your breath and have the right posture, your mind is still wandering." He stresses that we are enlightened by our very practice, it isn't some feeling or state of mind but just right practice.

>If you spend your life imitating Buddah, you will actually lose a bit of your self.

This is why Zen Buddhists say "kill the Buddha". Seriously, torrent the book if you can. One of the last chapters in the book makes this very point that it can be harmful to think about Buddha throughout the day because it takes away from a pure concentration on our present moment / life / situation.

>>132333570
>A sheltered spoilt rich boy who saw how life isn't always easy
Yep.

>abandoned his family
Not sure if it really counts as abandonment when they continued to live as royalty with all their needs taken care of. He also returned after his enlightenment and his son, brother and a couple cousins became his followers.

>telling people how much life sucks.
Not even close. Why criticize something if you don't understand it?

>>132334291
Accurate.

Do you have any doubts about the authenticity of the transmitted teachings? 500 years is a long time after all.

Enlightenment is achievable by any person at any time, it is your basic nature when you strip away your social programming. Its that simple. Whether you feel as though you are enlightened or a buddha it doesnt actually matter in the end, monks spend their whole life trying to attain something they already have. Its really not that hard or that important to focus on as a goal. Strip away the mythology and dogma, incorrect translations and new agey shit, and buddhism is a somewhat scientific and logical approach to psychology and spirituality that seeks to tame your mind and break the conditioning so that you see things as they really are.

The wheel of suffering is basically the redpill on human societies.

>>132319613
t>>132320315
this guy is actually correct, though still trying to describe it which is impossible, you either get the idea or not

>>132334214

dhammatalks.org has a good collection of books and audio. In particular, The Buddha’s Teachings by Thanissaro is a good place to start if you're not very familiar with Buddhism, or if you're only familiar with the new age nonsense interpretation of Buddhism that's become so popular in the West.

If you're interested in giving meditation a try, With Each & Every Breath, also by Thanissaro, has a brief introduction and instructions on which part of the book to skip ahead to if you just want to get some basic direction and give it a shot.

The "Beginnings" section on accesstoinsight.org/index.html is also a good resource.

>>132334401
What Buddha taught was fucking basic. Like love everybody and share your wealth with needy if you don't need it. He was the original marx. But that's not even it. He took those "learning" from hinduism and basically became a sage without ash on his forehead and body.

So he looked bit sharp than others. Also he had lighter complexion than Indian sages.

We have all kinds of bullshit myths here about him though, like when he was born he took seven steps. Yeah right! lmao

His disciples, especially a faggot lover boy feel king from India called Ashoka made him into a legend but Buddha was a basic bitch.

>>132323765
kinda, yes. But not when they identify as an individual. That is the whole idea of non-self. your ego or belief in self is real in so far as it feels very real. Some people think the goal of buddhism is to remove the ego completely and therefore achieve nirvana. From experience, there was a time in my life when I was in such a state for about a year, but I can say now many years on, its actually not really the point. your ego or self identity is not inherently bad and having one doesnt make you un-enlightened. Its about balance. If you recognize that the whole or reality is really just one askldfjsdflkf call it whatever you wish (or not) and that the feeling that you are separate from this is just an illusion, that's a pretty health place to be, in my opinion

>>132334291
You don't understand.
Buddha saw that suffering was universal, he never found it unfair. It's just how things really are. He doesn't necessarily advocate for peace, just understanding. Like the Samurai always treated their enemies with respect, the only prerequisite for being a Buddhist is that you sincerely try to understand and respect your opponent.

Buddhism isn't pacifist in nature, it's just what many people end up with after they empathize with their enemy. But Buddhist martial art temples weren't pacifist.

Besides, I'm a Zen Buddhist, my practice doesn't focus on Buddha, it focusses on self.

>>132335021
Thank you very much. I am heavily into the esoteric. Tell me, do you know anything about the Merkaba (lightbody)? I have seen common principles just under different names described in the ancient books depending on origin. Have you reached a different plane with your meditations?

>>132312119
>What is /pol/'s opinion on Buddhism?
Entry level Satanism.

>nothing matters :(
>godsuxx lol
>Worship a human

>>132334367
I grew up Buddhist. I understand it.

>>132335023
That's probably why it died out against Hinduism in its homelands quite quickly.

>>132335214
Buddhism was always about helping yourself and helping others to become better human beings. It didn't originate in Eastern Asia but they adopted it and created their own versions of it because his teachings were similar with Taoism and other native "religions" from those parts.

Different clans practiced different learning and Buddhism is one of them. Core idea of Buddhism is non violence and sharing wealth. Everything else was added later by his followers and promoters.

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>>132335319
>Tell me, do you know anything about the Merkaba (lightbody)?
Nope, never heard of it.

>Have you reached a different plane with your meditations?
It's generally considered proper to keep one's meditative attainments to oneself. Discuss them with your teacher, if you have one, but otherwise don't. This keeps you from the desire to brag, prevents unscrupulous people from having the opportunity to lie about it, and avoids giving people grounds to compare themselves to one another. Everyone's practice starts at a different place and proceeds at a different rate and there's no benefit in thinking about anything but what you're going to do to improve your own practice.

That said, Buddhist meditation is very down to earth. The goal is to learn more about the inner workings of the mind and not to gain any supernatural powers or visit higher planes. You probably could, if you wanted to, but these things are distractions from the path just like more mundane pleasures.

>>132335395
I dont think economics or peace/violence are the core ideas of Buddhism at all.

>>132335365
>I understand it.
And yet I can plainly see from your posts in this thread that you don't.

>>132336097
You're just blinded by pride that Buddhism isn't as perfect as people make out. No need to pretend it's anything other than accurate.

>>132336493
It's nothing to do with pride. You or anyone else are welcome to criticize or reject Buddhism as you like. But that doesn't change the fact that you claiming that the Buddha "sat under a tree telling people how much life sucks" shows that you don't understand one of the most basic Buddhist concepts. "Buddha said life sucks" is, in fact, probably the most common misunderstanding made by people who aren't familiar with the religion so to see you making it while claiming to have been raised Buddhist and understand it well is strange indeed.

>>132336913
Because, in a shitposting nutshell, that's what happened. You can try to dress it up with qualifiers but his shit stinks to high heaven.

That's why "pure" forms of Buddhism are quite rare, and local superstitions and religions supplant or join with them.

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>Buddhism

Whats with these degenerates shilling their religions every day? I'm catholic go away

>>132314398
Excellent post.

Newcomers here care more about fitting into a community which they perceive to be based off of a set of "correct" ethics in which to live by. Then they try to make this place Into a safe space for their insanely retarded politics that show just how inexperienced they really are.

This place is meant to be a board for meaningful political, sociological, philosophical, and in this case religious discussion to further ones understanding of this world filled with misinformation. Trying to make it about "muh redpills" is a cancerous habit that needs to die before this place loses what makes it special.

>>132314398
Most of the threads like "is __ redpilled?" and "redpill me on __" are a shill tactic attempting to slide the catalog.

>>132318361
>anon takes hallucinogenic drugs
>anon experiences shit
>must be muh enlightenment
nigger youre retared

>>132312119
The ultimate redpill is your own pagen relgion, stop worshipping foreign gods, start remembering what ones was yours

>>132312119
>What is /pol/'s opinion on Buddhism?

Degenerate gook faggotry.
The only meditation a true redpilled warrior needs is a cold beer while the grill gets hot.

>>132337337
>Because, in a shitposting nutshell, that's what happened.

Yes, I understand that this is what you believe. My point is that your misunderstanding is one that is very common among the uninformed and immediately outs you as someone who doesn't know what they're talking about to anyone with even the barest understanding of what the Buddha taught. Specifically, the Buddha taught that suffering is a unavoidable part of life and that even enjoyable activities contain an undercurrent of suffering. This doesn't mean that those activities aren't enjoyable, and this doesn't mean that life itself is not enjoyable, and he never claimed anything to the contrary.

You can't have been raised as a Buddhist very seriously if no one ever took the time to explain the difference between "Life is sucks" and "Suckiness is a unavoidable part of life".

Pure forms of any religion are quite rare, if by "pure" you mean strictly what the founder taught with nothing else added. I doubt you could find a single religion on the planet that hasn't been modified to some extent by the beliefs of the regions though which it's passed.

>>132312119
The ultimate redpill is your own pagen religion
The religion of your ancestors
Stop worshipping foreign gods
Start remembering what ones was yours

>>132312119
People that practice Buddhism but still abuse and eat animal. They talk about being mindful. being awaer of the consequences of your actions. Well shit nigga eating dead animal flesh has at lot of consequences. Be mindful get more gamma brain waves.

>>132312119
>Is this true?
Probably, at least the non-mystic stuff Buddha himself taught. Regarding "the ultimate red-pill regarding the true nature of reality", that's something that really should be arrived at on your own through contemplation of yourself and the world, or else it probably won't be a beneficial thing to know. I suggest focusing on the pursuit of truth rather than any particular answer, and combining wide knowledge of the world, its contents, and what people think about them with honest introspection and analysis.

>>132312119
There is really noting special about Buddhism, all it basically is - How to deal with suffering.

>>132338417
You're just trying to dress it up. It's the same thing. If suckiness is an unavoidable part of life, then life sucks.

>>132335737
Thank you

>>132339357
How does that make any sense? If I'm out on a date with my girlfriend and we're having a great time but I'm a little sad because I know that it can't last forever, does that mean that my night was sad and miserable? Here, I'll just give you a direct quote from one of the sites I linked earlier:

>Buddhism is sometimes naïvely criticized as a "negative" or "pessimistic" religion and philosophy. Surely life is not all misery and disappointment: it offers many kinds of happiness and sublime joy. Why then this dreary Buddhist obsession with unsatisfactoriness and suffering?

>The Buddha based his teachings on a frank assessment of our plight as humans: there is unsatisfactoriness and suffering in the world. No one can argue this fact. Dukkha lurks behind even the highest forms of worldly pleasure and joy, for, sooner or later, as surely as night follows day, that happiness must come to an end. Were the Buddha's teachings to stop there, we might indeed regard them as pessimistic and life as utterly hopeless. But, like a doctor who prescribes a remedy for an illness, the Buddha offers both a hope (the third Noble Truth) and a cure (the fourth). The Buddha's teachings thus give cause for unparalleled optimism and joy. The teachings offer as their reward the noblest, truest kind of happiness, and give profound value and meaning to an otherwise grim existence. One modern teacher summed it up well: "Buddhism is the serious pursuit of happiness."

>>132338417
>You can't have been raised as a Buddhist very seriously
Stop being a fag. Buddhism isn't even a religion.

>>132339816
Same principle applies in Jewish mysticism. Desire is an ever expanding hole. Once you have it you no longer want it. Essentially chasing your tail until the end of your days. Once you can transcend that mechanism you find the next step in human evolution. Universal love.

>>132339828
I don't mean seriously as in "you weren't super devout" but seriously as in "no one explained simple core concepts to you".

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>>132312119
Overrated bullshit, religion of SJW

(pol) dont know it ,but (pol) all ready on the dharma path, every thing here is questioned yet nothing is resolved, anon's despair of material modernity yet cannot accept all the answers are within, lord buddah shines a light into the misery of corperal existance,

>>132312119
Normie religion.

>>132339816
>implying you have a girlfriend.
>waifu pillows don't count
I bet you're sad and miserable right now.

>>132313956
dalai lama hasn't even given up consuming animal products. he's a cia shill, just look at the fucker.

>>132342472
It really isn't. It's one of the hardest religions to follow because you have to let go of your self-importance and do away with most animal instincts. Normies by the general definition are very self-absorbed and very animalistic. Normie conversations are typical because it's just two people waiting to talk about themselves, this would be entirely antithetic to Buddhism. Letting self-importance go is something new-age normie buddhists are absolutely incapable of, they always focus on themselves and their own presentation. They are truly, truly missing the point of Buddhism by using it as a fashion statement.

In other words: western millenials hijacked Buddhism and are completely missing the point by making it about peace and love instead of self-mastery and truth.

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>>132312119
hinduism is white man's religion