Ignoring whether she did something legally wrong (she didn't).

>>132286971
wtf is barron trans now?

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Proof that he wanted to die all on his own without her, and that he convinced her the best thing for his life was for him to die.

>>132287107
Because it's still fucked to encourage your SO to kill their self.

Report them to the police, and have them sent to a state-funded re-education center.

>>132287107
Seriously sounds like a total fucking enough beta. She probably just couldn't stand it anymore and was like dude, fucking nut up or shut up.

>>132286971
Because if you're going to talk about morals, you're going to have to consider MOTIVES. Why does she want him to kill himself? Is it truly for his well-being? Does the woman who held a memorial for her boyfriend at her high school that he didn't even go to truly do it out of a selfless intent? If you can convince yourself this woman was completely selfless in telling someone else to kill himself then I agree that she was morally right to do so. But having read about this case she clearly fed off the sympathy she received and wanted to very badly be the "girl whose boyfriend committed suicide" based on the texts she sent to her friend before he had even done it. I'll ignore the fact that telling someone to kill themselves is wrong but the motives behind doing anything are what truly matter when you talk about morality.

>Ignoring whether she did something legally wrong
>inserts ill-conceived opinion anyway
I'm starting to believe that anyone with the kekistan flag is a stupid faggot redditor. I bet you're an atheist too, aren't you?

>>132286971
Is this chick the new pol meme?

lol can we start ironically posting about her or are we already doing that, I can't tell

>>132287699
Who doesn't want to be that girl though? Let the chick have her moment in the limelight she deserves it

>>132287400
You have to think of it from her perspective. As long as her heart was in the right place. She encouraged him because he made her think that it was best for him. She was underaged and he was an adult after all.

>whiteknighting for a sociopathic cunt
You oven dodging kike

>>132286971
"Why people think Hillary did something wrong (she didn't)" the thread

sage

>>132287972
The concept of age in regards to this argument is fucked. I don't care if it's an 8 year old consciously encouraging a 40 year old to kill them.

I don't give a fuck about her feelings. It was her duty to notify someone. Anyone. Instead, she texted his sister afterwards saying "Did you find him yet?" That's fucked up, and you know it is.

>>132287699
None of that makes any sense. From the texts, from her wanting him to live originally, from her saying "I couldn't have him living how he was living anymore" it's clear she was only agreeing with his own desire to die, from what he had convinced her, is for his own good.

>>132288465
I like to imagine they had sweet sweet lesbian coitus next to the body

>>132286971
She's possessed by the Enchantress. Give her a break.

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/ourgirl/

>>132286971
>gf encorages you to kys
>she's the morally superior one =D

kys

His debate is Facebook tier.
Sage
Go watch "making a murderer" with your girlfriends, stacy

You guys are autistic as fuck.

>>132288680
She wore some funky outfits to court

>>132288465
It really wasn't her "duty" to do anything to help out this grown man. But anyway, if we're talking about morality, then you have to consider her feelings, what she did might seem bad on the surface, but as long as her heart was in the right place, then it was morally right. If you kill one person it might seem bad, but if you did it to save a billion others, then it was right. She told him to kill himself because he convinced her it was the best thing for himself. So she was in the right.

>>132286971
The correct thing to do when someone ignores your advice and wants to an hero, is to just fucking ignore them.

Don't goad them into it, it implies you've some sort of psychotic tendencies (Eg wanting someone you know personally dead, and taking action to make it happen)

Didn't she have an 'awareness' fundraiser and kept the money?

>>132286971
Why do you make this thread ten times a day? Are you that roasties friend or something? I know you're not her bf since that pussy is dead.

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>>132288680
Her weight loss and her makeover made her so cute! :3

>>132286971
She encouraged him to commit suicide, a literally mortal sin. In what world is that moral?

>>132288749
I didn't say she was morally superior to him. But she was, he was fucked up, constantly harassing this underaged girl about how much he wants to kill himself. If he was alive he should be in prison. Anyway there was nothing wrong with her supporting his own decision to kill himself.

>>132289074
She's ugly as fuck. Says a lot about what type of women you pull. Fuckin loser

What's the story?

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>>132286971
OP must be terribly, terribly lonely.

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>>132289259
>jelly

>>132289074
>cute
It's like Carl Sagan in a dress with a comb-over.

>>132288962
>Ignoring someone is the better choice than doing what you think will help them (in this case, them committing suicide)

>>132287887
It's actually one nu-male posting it every fucking day.


He's so fucking beta that he has to whiteknight a psychopath on the basis she's ''cute'' even though he'll never get a smell of her pussy. Hell, she'd tell him to kill himself and he would.

>>132289371
>Boyfriend wants to kill himself
>keeps texting girlfriend about it
>girlfriend eventually starts persuading him to get it over with
>he gets second thoughts about it and tries backing out
>she is persistent and keeps pushing him and reminding him to do it when it looks like he's stopping.
>he eventually does it and she acts like she's scared and surprised at the end that he did it
I usually laugh at suicidal faggots but you guys are dumb as fuck if you think she didn't play a part in it

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>>132289550
>double jelly

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>>132289469
doze eyebrows

>>132289371
Guy wanted to kill himself. Girl told him not to. He keeps saying he really wants. She eventually says she supports his decision. He does it. She goes to jail.

damn bro, she looks like an elf. i'm finna buy some elf clothes for her and pay a conjugal visit

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>>132289701
>girlfriend eventually starts persuading him to get it over with

>>132289830
Guy changes mind and decides he wants to life. She convinces him to get back in car and an hero.

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>>132290101
Yup that's what I typed. good eye bud

>>132289830
And that's great, now fuck off.

You must be fucking lonely if you are defending a murdered on the basis of your tiny boner

>>132286971
She should've offered to meet her from time to time

>>132290256
He chooses of his own free will to get back in and kill himself yes.

>>132290349
When did she murder someone?

>>132290285
What did the bf look like?

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>>132290746

>>132291046
What kind of cuck do you have to be to let some little girl convince you to kill yourself.

>>132291310
She didn't convince him, he always wanted to kill himself.

>>132289469

Is she balding?

>>132291403
He started choking on the fumes and got out of the truck, then she told him to get back in there. At that point even the most depressed person has to question the motives of this bitch, if he's not cucked to hell and back.

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>>132287458
>She probably just couldn't stand it anymore and was like dude, fucking nut up or shut up.

>newfags not recognizing one of 4chins oldest memes...

>>132291676
The fumes were the only reason he got out, it's natural when something is killing you you're going to instinctively try to get out of the situation, even if you know you want to die, like some suicidal person trying to hold their head underwater until they die, they're probably going to instinctively come up for air. He got back in because he got back in his right state of mind and wanted to finish killing himself like he always wanted.

she's clearly sick and twisted

neckbeards love crazy chicks

hoping they might be crazy enough to get turned on by their neck pubes and star wars larping

>>132289654
Yup. Can you prove me wrong?

>>132293032
I would probably ignore them too, don't know about whether it's "correct" or not. But it's definitely not the morally superior choice. Ignoring them is selfish, trying to help them obviously is not.

>>132292044
A sophisticated troll isnt something seen around these parts

>>132293759
How is that a troll? Anyway he got back in so it's obvious he wanted to die.

>>132287920
You best be fucking joking, mate

>>132286971
I want to grab her by the ears and fuck her from behind.

Just sayin'

>>132289259
>>132289550
She looks like a bargain basket Cara Devalingue

qt

>>132286971
Telling someone "fuck off kill yourself" and giving a full in depth explanation on how to kill yourself along with "kill yourself" and knowing the person and slowly convincing them to do so is a heavily premeditated act which is why she's being charged

>>132295263
She didn't convince him to kill himself, he always wanted to kill himself. He convinced her that what was best for him was to die.

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>>132286971
The only thing she did wrong was....
SHE DIDN'T GET HIM A SHOTGUN FOR HIS GOING AWAY PARTY!!!!

>>132286971
I've been around the block and can tell this bitch is a fucking nut just by looking at her. She's obviously dangerous and it would be a mistake to let her go free, I would advocate putting her in a psychiatric ward. If it wasn't for that idiot Reagan cutting funds for the asylums we wouldn't have so many bums on our streets and people like this could maybe get help.

>>132288465
It is fucked up, but it's not a crime. He did it, it was his idea and his decision.

>>132286971
>encouraging someone to kill themselves to get more popular at school is not a good enough moral argument.
>encouraging someone to kill themselves when they have known depression and are suicidal is obviously manslaughter if not conspiracy to commit murder is not a good enough legal argument

>>132286971
She literally did nothing wrong. Should have just put that nigga on ignore and got on with her life.

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So, saying someone should kill himself now puts you in jail.

>>132296091
no no.....convincing them to kill themselves is!
gotta split the hairs!

>>132296194
Sounds like he convinced her >>132287107

>>132288532
>putting pussy this high on a pedestal

No sympathy. None. I wish they got her for conspiracy to commit murder. If the genders were reversed the guy would rot in prison.

>>132296291
now now.....we're gonna ignore that part. He was obviously a vulnerable person who shouldn't have been out making decisions on his own!

>>132296006
She wanted him to kill himself for his own good, because of what he had been telling her. That's pretty obvious going by the texts and the fact that she wanted him alive at some point. And he chose to kill himself of his own free will, something he had attempted before as well.

>>132296454
You want her in jail for murder for some guy choosing to kill himself, who always wanted to kill himself, when at one point she didn't even want him to kill himself. That makes no sense.

>>132288532
The minute he decided he wanted to live and she convinced him that he wouldn't find happiness and to get back in the car, she fucked up.

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>>132286971
>HEY BRO DO THE WORLD A FAVOR AND KILL YOURSELF
>alright changed my mind I think living would be better than suicide
>GET YOUR FUCKING ASS BACK INTO YOUR CAR AND DIE YOU PIECE OF SHIT
>*dies*
>Hey everyone I don't know what happened to him but look at me suffering over my friends suicide, don't you feel sorry for me lol
Nah this bitch is a cunt and in his hour of need and her being the only voice of reason he had left she abused that power coercing him into committing suicide.

>MUH FREEZE PEACH
while I agree you have the right to say whatever you want she abused this right compared to someone shouting FIRE in a building that wasn't on fire

>>132296888
>I know I've been telling you for months that the best thing for myself is to die
>But in these last 10 seconds I'm kind of changing my mind, so you should immediately change your mind about what I've been convincing you for the last x amount of months

Not gonna happen.

>>132296980
How is she a "voice of reason", she was just an underaged girl. One that had been manipulated for months by him into thinking that the best thing for him was to die. Not saying there's anything wrong with suicide, but if you think there is, wouldn't a real voice of reason be someone who the guy didn't spend months convincing that suicide was the best option for him?

>>132296774
Makes perfect sense. Shes a psycho and you probably fell in love with her picture once now shes innocent.

>>132296774
You, like the girl, are a low empath autist

>>132296546
So its ok for someone to kill themselves and the person encouraging them is guilt free. This isn't a case of euthanasia its premeditated murder plain in simple.

>>132286971
if she was dude, you wouldn't give a fuck about her

>>132286971
TFW no qt gf to convince me to kill myself

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>>132297635
I think it's the fact that she pretended to not know what happened to him after he killed himself while his family and friends were worried, also she used his death for pity points and attention.

However if you read her texts she knows what shes doing to him, when a person is suicidal it's best to get them "professional" help from a hotline or intervention, not giving the person attention and keeping your hands clean is the best option.

>she was the true one manipulated
>she's just a kid she doesn't know better
Read the texts and emails, this "defense" or rather excuse breaks apart

>>132298098
>murder
>when someone kills someone else

You want her in jail for this, for someone choosing to kill himself. That makes no sense.

>>132298098
Empathy is the ability to understand the feelings of others. She had empathy, she understood the guys desire to kill himself. If she was like you and was just like "I don't care if you want to die, you should live just to make me happy", then she would have no empathy.

>>132298469
>>murder
Whomst are you quoting?

>>132298469
meant for
>>132297966

>>132298612
Her empathy was CLEARLY lacking at the critical moment when he changed his mind.

>>132298163
Yes it's ok for someone to kill themselves. It's their life and their body after all. Why wouldn't it be ok for them to choose to kill themselves? There's no "guilt" anywhere to be had.

She is morally wrong because the guy's free will was overpowered by hers. Ultimately the guy does have that final choice to make, but he was depressed and vulnerable. She took advantage of that. In essence, kicking him while he was down

>>132298446
She pretended not to know because she didn't want to get in any trouble. What does that have to do with anything. If I steal to help out a poor starving family, am I really morally obligated to turn myself in just because that's the legal thing to do? She didn't want to face any potential legal punishment for what she thought was the right thing to do. And she didn't do anything to him.

>>132298704
You have your mind made up about doing something for months, you obviously really want it, some last minute wishy washy feelings about something is not something a normal person on the outside would take seriously. They're normally going to be like "cmon do it, you've been talking about it for months, it's what you really want to do, don't be scared".

>>132299129
>his free will was overpowered by hers

That literally makes no sense. And if she has mind control how come she couldn't get him to get help when she wanted it. Because he didn't want to get help, but he actually did want to commit suicide.

>>132299129
I had a cousin, essentially committed suicide, he was doing drugs with 'friends' and had a bad reaction instead of calling for help they instead 'cleaned up.' Few hours later they finally called for help. Now reason i say he committed suicide is cause legally nothing can be done to his 'friends.' Cause in our society you aren't responsible for the actions of others. So really all that should have happened with this is call her a horrible and disgusting human being and move on and that is all it literally warrants. We dont have laws against this stuff cause "good' people generally help.

>>132286971
get that psychopath whore off my /pol/ once and for all

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>>132299146
>She pretended not to know because she didn't want to get in any trouble
That response alone means she knew what she was doing was wrong

>relying on if situations
we're dealing with facts here anon, she knew what she did was wrong at the time and after didn't want to get in trouble for it

>And she didn't do anything to him
Come on now, don't do this

>>132299760
>That response alone means she knew what she was doing was wrong

No it doesn't. If I help some woman escape a pre arranged marriage, I'm gonna lie to her family about it, because even though I think what I did was right, I know they're going to think what I did was wrong and I don't want to get in trouble with them.

>>132286971
Violence in Society is NORMAL

SOCIETY is based on rules on violence we agree upon

I read somethign about that the other day, but anyway
concerning this, of course
your kids wont be allowed to see any chat of suicide online
so you will be chipped to go online,
of course to make sure the kids something you know

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>>132300234
>I know they're going to think what I did was wrong and I don't want to get in trouble with them
Too bad she got in trouble with the law and not just a small group of people who're related to one another

Your whole "if" scenario for this post has broken apart

>knew someone had plans to carry out suicide
>didn't report it (gross negligence)
>coerced him into doing it

but she dindu nuffin

>>132300719
Yea her lies didn't work obviously. What does that have to do with any of the other posts.

>>132301066
Coerced means to threaten someone, she didn't coerce him into committing suicide. In fact he always wanted to do it. She's also not responsible for trying to stop some grown man from committing suicide if he wants to. So no she dindu nuffin.

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>>132301077
In all your posts you defended her and now your admitting her guilt... aka her lies

we're done here

>>132286971
SHE LOOKS LIKE A FUCKING ELF

>>132301393
Lying does not mean that she's guilty, what are you talking about. She lied to his family because she didn't want to get in trouble with them. That's all and has nothing to do with the important aspects of this case.

>>132298446
>when a person is suicidal it's best to get them "professional" help from a hotline or intervention
That's the conventional position, yes, and it's more a statement of moral cowardice than anything else.

If you call the authorities, they're likely to get hauled off to a mental hospital and be used as a profit opportunity for the rest of their life by psychiatrists. They're unlikely to have either a happy life or a clean escape from their pain, and if they were serious in the first place they're pretty likely to find a way to kill themselves anyway, but hey, "you did what you were supposed to do and nobody can blame you."

If they can be talked out of it, it's much better for them to be talked out of it privately by a friend or family member. If they can't be, it's better for them to get it over with once and for all. And sometimes, it's not right to talk them out of it, you're just prolonging their misery and causing more pain to the people around them.

>>132298163
>So its ok for someone to kill themselves and the person encouraging them is guilt free. This isn't a case of euthanasia its premeditated murder plain in simple.
Murder? She only gave him advice and encouragement in a personal decision.

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>>132289469
JUST

>>132306237
I'm balding and I have a better hairline than her.

cant wait for this bitches sentencing and all her beta orbiters on pol sperg out

>>132286971
Are you her dad or something? Stop fucking spamming this shit.

>>132286971
She took advantage of someone mentally incompetent. That's like raping the autistic girl or picking on the downie kid. She used her pussy power to kill an idiot.

>>132306237

That receding hairline...

Worse than mine, and i'm an obese neet who only eats fried chicken and milk and masturbates 6 times a day

>>132307683
How did she take advantage of him when he always wanted to kill himself. And how was he mentally incompetent.

>>132287972
>heart in the right place
>tells people to kill self
are you listening to yourself anon? This was clearly a power high for her. People with hearts in the right place don't encourage suicide. I should know, I've encouraged people to kys many times.

>>132307752
uhhhhh....

sounds like she's doing a lot better than you there, buddy

>>132307885
She used his weakness to get a power high. Thats how she took advantage. Shes just a smug cunt.

>>132286971
>she didn't
Yes she did. Found guilty and convicted. Man you're retarded.

>>132308121
and mentally competent people are resilient towards lifes struggles and the human condition. If you want to kill yourself over non medical issue then yeah, your incompetent in your coping skills.

>>132308027
Yes, it's pretty clear from >>132287107
"If this is the only way you're gonna be happy...", she thought, from what he had been telling her, that the only way for him to be happy was for him to kill himself.

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>>132286971

you must be a child
or unable to comprehend empathy
or both

here..get that corrected

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9n1e-q1vz8

>>132308121
You think she wanted him dead simply for a power high. You don't think that's a little ridiculous. Especially when there are real plausible reasons right in front of your face, such as that he had convinced her him killing himself was best for himself.

>>132308282
>No one has ever been falsely convicted before

>>132308332
>believing that was her intent because thats how she sold it
You know woman are manipulative right? No one believes that shit, not even her. She even bragged to her friends about how she convinced him. I'm not even morally objected to this personally, But the law says you can't encourage people to kill themselves and thats just how it is.

>>132308312
Whether you think he was "mentally competent" or not, he didn't have a legitimate mental disability, so he was just as responsible for his actions as me or you.

>>132308770
>She even bragged to her friends about how she convinced him.

Show me the text. From what I read, she texted her friend afterwards "I couldn't have him living how he was living anymore". You are making up things in your mind even if they go against what people explicitly state. I can only assume it's a woman hating bias.

>>132308486
Yes I do believe that and anyone who thinks differently has never dealt with people who get a rush out of putting others down. She's a bigforeheaded trailer trash cunt with dad issues, you think she wouldn't do something like this for the keks? Get real.

>>132286971
>>132287107
Who cares, honestly? Why do any of you pay attention to this stupid shit, why does any of this effect you or matter?

I think all you dumb niggers should get a nice life, outside the computer & stop caring about useless shit like this.

20 years is a bit much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoOhnrjdYOc

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>>132309136
You've come to that conclusion based on absolutely nothing. If you're going to believe something, it should at least have even the slightest basis. Instead of "she has dad issues so this sounds like something she would do." The reasons I gave for what she did are actually based on statements she made and how she went from wanting him alive to wanting him dead.

>>132286971
she was making "feel sorry for me" post on social media before the body was cold and discovered. nobody had even knew he was missing. she did this for attention and that makes her evil.

>>132309602
All lies.

>>132286971

She did nothing wrong.

In the beginning she pushed her bf to get help over and over.