>be compassionate human >also happen to be leader of the

>>132285760
Seriously what the fuck, there's no way to spin this headline positively for liberals it just makes you look like a massive fucking cunt.
>Hey, is that your baby dying?
>We might be able to give him a chance
Liberals:
>HOW THE FUCK COULD HE DO THIS
then again no surprise because liberals do love to kill babies

>>132285760

>babbies 1st realization that there's no point in caring about what lefties think or say, ever

>>132285927
>Seriously what the fuck, there's no way to spin this headline positively for liberals

It isn't a negative headline or a negative story settle down snowflake.

did trump offer to save the kid or what?

>>132285760
Trump knows this kid is fucked. He says something nice. Then WHEN the kid does die, and he would regardless, he looks like the good guy.

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The comments are crazy. These people really do actually love killing babies don't they?

>>132285760
>lefties
Call them "anti-whites," O.P.

>>132285760
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

THAT FAT ORANGE FASCIST SHOULDN'T MEDDLE IN OTHER PEOPLE'S AFFAIR

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

HE MUST BE IMPEACHED AND SUMMARILY EXECUTED

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>132286286
Trump knows exactly what he's doing. It's very nice of him to help a family that's been fucked over by commies and it's gonna show to everyone how far the mental gymnastics of libshits can go.

>>132285760
Donald Trump undermining socialized healthcare in britain isnt part of the liberal storyline

>>132285760
>keeping human vegetable alive
What's the point of this anyways?

>>132285760
trump doing this is obvious PR, yes
Not saying that he doesn't care for the kid, just that making it public is to improve his image
>literally offer to save the dying babies life
the baby is fucked, by the way. the parents just refuse to let go due to grief.

>>132287060
you would too.
t. parent

>inserted himself
>liberals literally live in some kind of fantasy world and Trump inserted himself into it

>>132286252
Not necessarily, about a year ago I was hospitalized and my liver and kidneys had shut down and I had to do dialysis every day for 5 weeks. The hospital literally wanted to let me die but my family wouldn't let them. I'm still here. Funny thing was I was drugged up on all kinds of stuff and talked gibberish for the first 2 weeks apparently, except I apparently talked coherently about the election and my support for Trump. Everything else was nonsense. I think wanting to see Trump win the election literally saved my life. I'm fine now.

>>132285760
Why do all libshit news headlines sound like passive aggressive gossip from an ex-girlfriend?

>>132287219
Yeah, for sure. But regardless of the empathy I have for them, it's rather obvious that nothing can be done for their child at this point. Trump reaching out to them is meaningless.

>>132285760
/sigh again faggots?

This baby has brain, kidney and liver damage (at least).

It cannot breathe without machines, it cannot swallow without machines, it's heart cannot beat without machines. It has no bowel movement, again, machines.

It cannot open its eyes and has no motor functions.

It cannot REPAIR DAMAGED DNA. It cannot CREATE NEW DNA. It's cells cannot divide.

You could cut it's head off and it would be the same, machines manipulating a limp, lifeless body.

The media outlets are copy-pasting the first paragraph of Wikipedia rather than interviewing medical professionals. They're also describing problems with the TK2 gene, not RRM2B defects which is what Charlie has.

There is NO TREATMENT ON EARTH that can possibly fix any of this. The best they could do is take a sample of his DNA, analyse it, test a new drug on mice, and then test on humans.

Instead Dr Shekelstein has said he has a "treatment", that is UNTESTED, hasn't even been tried on mice. Even he admits it won't change a bloody thing.

The only thing about this case is Americans wanting to take millions in payments, milk this baby for all the press it's worth, and set a precedent to use human babies as guinea pigs for untested "treatments". Enjoy big pharma.

The best thing for the kid is letting it die with dignity, it literally has no chance. You cannot repair this level of genetic damage, and even if you could, what are you going to do about the brain, liver and kidney damage?

Stop PR signalling, Americans. This has nothing to do with healthcare.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK195854/

https://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/rrm2b-related-mitochondrial-dna-depletion-syndrome-encephalomyopathic-form-with-renal-tubulopathy#genes

(BTW we DO have private health care here too. We just don't test on babies for the laugh..)

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HOW CAN HE KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS????

>>132286286
>EU court wants to kill child because "free healthcare"
>this nigger thinks obamacare would save it

>>132285760
> hundreds of white American babies will die of easily treatable infections because no heathcare

> a braindead foreign baby must live tho

>>132285760
I seen this on The Daily Mail, people commenting still couldn't let go on chatting shit about Trump.
Imagine you're the parents. Your first children, you want to try everything before giving up, can you blame them? They even raised the money so let them do it.

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>>132287265
*Sniff* Cool story bro.

>>132285760
>>eurocucks won't even give the child a chance
the child is a braindead hunk of meat with no chance (0.00%) of recovery or improvement.

That being said, Trump is right, because this is good optics

>>132288468
That's possibly the worst bait I've ever seen. Sad!

>>132285760
The baby had brain damage, it was a cabbage. The parants wanted to take it to America to prolong it suffering.
Story over nothing to see here.

>>132285927
Liberals always look like massive fucking cunts, smug bastards.

>>132288886
> no counter argument

All the hospital had to do was let the parents take their babby home. If it's going to die anyway what difference does it make?

>>132288468
Maybe their parents should stop being retarded and save up their money in case their child gets sick.

>>132288743
Can't blame the parents, but it's the government's job in cases like this to stop a precedent being set for scamming Dr Shekelsteins to promote miracle treatments and use babies for human testing. (Especially for "treatments" that haven't even been tested on mice, or anything else first).

They're for once, looking after the wellbeing of the child and trying to stop them prolonging it's suffering.

Again this child can't make or repair DNA, it cannot grow, it will simply break down more. On top of all the brain, liver and kidney damage it already has, lack of motor functions etc.

This is all purely for milking attention, money, and enabling testing on human babies.

If you Americans support this kinda shit, it's going to be a lot more than foreskins that big pharma is going to take from you.

Again, here's the actual definition. Ignore the MSM posting wrong quotes straight from Wikipedia: https://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/rrm2b-related-mitochondrial-dna-depletion-syndrome-encephalomyopathic-form-with-renal-tubulopathy#genes

>>132289182
>it's the goverments job

stoped reading there

>>132289182
MSM is also deleting comments explaining his actual problem btw. They even deleted it from Ben Shapiro's article lol.

Ask yourself why they want to keep the actual medical details on the scale of his problems quiet..

Btw he can't go home, he needs a literal ROOM FULL of equipment. he'd die as soon as unplugged.

>>132286286
how would they both be saddled with debt and receive no healthcare at the same time? pick one

I don't think you anons get it. Drumpf is the most immoral piece of shit ever. He needs to be impeached.

>>132289168
These parents didn't. The money they received was all donations. Literally muh feels to prolong the short painful life of a blind deaf braindead baby whose vital organs have failed

>>132289270
You would, burger. Keep donating your foreskin, and soon your babies too for untested medical "treatments".

>>132288468
Seriously though, i work in a hospital, and the amount of baby fatalities is INSANE. They come in all infected and shit and there is nothing we can do, we got no healthcare i begrudgingly have to tell the parents. We Don't even put them in the morgue anymore, we just throw in the dumpster out back.

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>>132288886

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>>132285760
God damn it!!
why does socialist health system wants to kill a ill baby???
Fucking little doll :'(((((((((
the dad is trying to save his baby...
Fucking cummies!

>>132285760
Only the most pathological evil lunatics could criticize someone for trying to save a baby's life.

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>>132285760
They know exactly what they're doing: maintaining a narrative.

They are desperate because people like /pol/ are waking up. We are defeating them. They think they can win by lying Trump out of office.

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>>132286126

>be faggot
>hate self
>go on internet
>shitpost looking for (you)'s
>don't get any

here ya go nigger. cherish it.

>>132285760
>be babby
>be terminally ill
>cost everyone shitloads of money
>keep costing everyone progressively larger shitloads of money the longer you're alive
There's an investment in the future and then there's a money hole.

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>>132287997
>Treatment is "untested"
>It shouldn't be attempted
And the degeneracy of socialism is revealed plain as day. "We will never pay for any potential progress. We know better. You must die for the good of the state."

I truly despise your country and its callous attitude toward human life. I will rejoice every time one of you is murdered by a Jihadi.

>>132285760
They are mentally ill, that's what happens.

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The baby has severe brain damage, it cannot see, it cannot hear, it cannot speak, it cannot eat, it cannot shit or even breathe without machinery, the only thing it feels is pain.

The treatment hasn't even been tested on animals and it's best case scenario is it keeps him alive (it's not a cure). A "success" for this will be a baby spending another year or so in a black void filled with literally nothing except pain. They're letting him die because every second of his life is torture.

>>132289182
You forgot the part about the father not being able to live with himself if he didn't exhaust all options, the thought will haunt him for the rest of his days that his babbie might have been saved, probably not, but nothing wrong with trying. Denying that father his closure is pretty evil.

>>132287997
This.

Keeping it on life support is a waste of electricity and resources. Think with your head not your heart.

>>132287997
Go visit an Ariana grande concert.

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Giving the parents false hope is cruel. Kid is going to die regardless of what Trump does.

>>132289782
Who is to decide of this, fuckface?

>>132287024
There is an experimental treatment that may help. They have the money to pay for it and that's all they want. Whether it works or not, they should have the right to try it.

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>>132289182
>It must be a scam because it's never been attempted before

-> >>132289724

The irony you britcucks miss, is that your PM has the exact same disdain for your lives when she cucks you all to Muslims. I used to think you all were being treated unfairly. Now I know you brought it on yourselves.

>>132289349
i wasted 3 seconds looking at your opinion, i could have done something better like sniff my finger or make an angry face in the mirror.

Please kill yourself, you boring prick.

>>132286126
then what is it you libtard, wonder what that headline would be if Obama decided to intervene

>>132288468
>>132289050
The only reason it happens here is bad parenting. Not due to lack of insurance. There are tons of free clinics, and even the local health departments, and then there are emergency rooms. But the parents have to make the effort first.

>>132285927
>liberals do love to kill babies
Particularly white babies. It's a win for them.

>>132287060
He's the president, obviously everything he does is public now. He's helped kids in the past like this before without making it public. He has a long history of seeing people in bad situations and stepping in to help with his own money without making it some huge public thing.

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>>132286286

>EU going out of its way to kill babby
>do mental gymnastics to make it Trump's fault and talk shit about American health insurance and shit

These dumb cunts have been fully brainwashed and weaponized. Get ready for the next Bolshevik revolution.

>>132285760
>leader of the free world
>someone who is not a pathologically stupid/naive fuck with chemically straightened hair transplanted directly from his ass who was inserted where he is now so that (((Kushner))) can give leverage to Israel

choose only one. as soon as you alt-right faggots get outed and reamed in the midterm and in the next general, you're going to see a ton of anti-hate legislation passed and your cute little t_d fetishism will be banned from fourchan and we'll be able to talk about actual (((politics))) and not about the all-american-retard you think you helped get into power

the reason so many people were upset when trump won was because everyone- even the people who didn't vote- didn't think that something so ridiculous could happen. they overestimated the willingness of others to pick up their own slack

after the next election, you will see a lot of verrrry invasive legislation that will put most of you faggots behind bars when you start calling CNN and other reputable sources of information "fake news". truth is not subjective you irrational idiots

>>132289393

For your health dont come to the US. You might choke on sweet fresh air of freedom

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>>132290247

2/2

>>132289705
You are a money hole you stupid mouthbreather. Why don't you neck yourself?

>>132286546
This.

>>132289270
It's why I need to get away from Europe forever. You can't have anything nice. You literally need to jump through hoops to own a .22

>>132285760
> MSM: HOW DARE HE INSERT HIMSELF INTO OUR (((STORY)))

>>132285760
>What the fuck is wrong with lefties?
I guess they just don't want to see babies kept artificially alive so they can suffer day after day of unending pain, because their parents are too selfish to let them return to peace.

>>132285760
HE SAID BAD THINGS ABOUT WOMEN HE MAY NEVER BE FORGIVEN REEEEEEE!!!!1111

>>132285760
Mental Illness and delusions of grandeur

>>132290031
It a shame you put so much effort into both posts and no one bothered to reply.

Here it's a (you) just for you.

>>132287997
All of that is true, but it is still not the state's decision to make. It is the parents' decision what to do with their child. They raised the money to take it for an experimental treatment in the US and the board told them no. Sure, it wouldn't have made a difference with regards to the child, but the that is not the source of the outrage. It is the fact that the state is deciding how to end a child's life and not the parents.
tl;dr get fucked, statist cuck

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>>132290255
>tfw all leftists have left is impotent rage
feels good man

>>132287997
Fuck the chances the kid has to survive. I need to masturbate to my semi-humanist POS ideology. Fuck human life i only care about my narcissistic ego

You would even have a point if it happened on public healthcare but lol i just like to act like God

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>>132287060
>the baby is fucked, by the way. the parents just refuse to let go due to grief.
If the parents have the money raised and are trying to do this by themselves, there should be no reason for the fucking EU government to step in the way.

At least give the parents the comfort in the fact they made an honest attempt to save their child, even if the experimental treatment fails.

>>132287997
>reddit spacing

>Hospital X offers some kind of experimental treatment
>Openly say that it's unlikely to help but the information gained will help other children
>HURRRRRRRRRR CANT U SEE IT ALREADY DEAD JUST KILL IT ALREADY REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Euros are cancer.

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>>132285927
>>132290247
>>132290080
>>132285760
>>132289514

There are, in fact, things worse than death. Like living a life blind, deaf, and numb to everything but pain. Unable to eat, shit, breathe, or sleep without machines hooked up to it, but it still deserves a painful terrible life!

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>>132289724
Yes, let's use the vegetive baby for our in vivo studies!

>>132290807
They can't save their child. The treatment isn't a cure. It'll just keep him alive for a little while longer, locked in his body and under incredible pain.

>>132290074
Emergency rooms saddle you with a bill for $800 for not doing much.
People who don't have health insurance will put off going to a doctor, that's just a fact. Imagine your baby starts coughing and has slight fever. You have a mortgage to pay and maybe another child that needs xy. You give the baby a tylenol and the fever goes down. Meanwhile the infection spreads (because you only killed a symptom and simultaneously the natural immune response) and festers. Your baby that only needed an antibiotics prescription initially may now die or sustain permanent damage.

Meanwhile severely brain-damaged bong baby will never be remotely ok no matter what they do. Waste 1.3 million on it.

>>132285760
Regarding this. Liberals and especially Trump haters are simply closed to reasoning. They have this idea formed in their mind that kept being repeated and reinforced by MSM that Trump is evil and they are stuck with it. Trump could literally save their lives and they still would believe he is WORSE THAN HITLER. There is no reasoning in them. None. There is no point in trying to convince them since they do not accept it.

>>132290720
>All of that is true, but it is still not the state's decision to make.
Actually, in this case it is.
>It is the parents' decision what to do with their child.
Fuck off. A child is not the property of their parents. Parents can and should maintain exclusive guardianship of their child unless they have proven themselves incapable of promoting and safeguarding their child's best interests, as these parents in their misguidedness. The poor child should be allowed die a peaceful, comfortable death.

>>132290863
> other children
These disease had about a dozen of patients in the entire recorded history

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>>132288833
cool integers my dude

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>>132291060
>Liberals and especially Trump haters are simply closed to reasoning.

Pizzagate

>>132290965
>It'll just keep him alive for a little while longer, locked in his body and under incredible pain.

A vegetable can't feel pain.

>>132291135
Not an argument and you know it.

Been 5 days since the parents made a video and uploaded it. In thoset days onky 2 sites reported on it. Bow that truml has "inserted" himself they blow it up. Really makes you think goyims.

>>132290863
The baby was dead.
Americans wanted huge amounts of cash to do experiments on said child
You're Cancer for being so fucking thick.

>>132291214
Yes, it is and you know it. Wasting 1.3 mil to prolong a terminal potato's life by a bit is retarded virtue signalling of the highest degree. Not all life is and should be salvageable.

>>132291090
>A child is not the property of their parents.

Yes, it is.

>>132291198
As far as I'm aware, it's closer to locked-in syndrome than a vegitatitve state.

>>132291189
Sorry, I don't follow random tinfoil bullshit. Just read up on it. Even if it was or not true, people would have forgotten about it soon enough. See Panama Papers? Remember how some famous people were keeping money offshore to avoid taxes and whatever? Yeah, that's what I thought.

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>>132291090
Are children and people property of the state?

>>132285927
There's literally nothing that can be done for this baby, he's a vegetable. Trump looks like a huge prick coming in to prolong the parent's suffering by giving them false hope right before the kid's life support is switched off

>>132289168
That's the parent's decision, not yours. That's the point of this argument

>>132291424
>euronig doesn't understand how medical research works and thinks that there's only ever advances to one field at a time

senpai just kys and be done with it

>>132290965
don't try and use logic and common sense against us you English bastard!

>>132291447
Well that's fine then.

>>132285760
Woah woah woah, what have I missed? Someone link?

>>132285760
>What the fuck is wrong with lefties?
evil and hatefilled

>>132291424

maybe maybe not. i do know i dont want the state making that call

>>132291429
this
Try to deprive me of that decision if I'm the father
You'll have to migrate to Antarctica

>>132291561
Actual nigger doesn't understand eugenics but will larp as right-wing.

>>132291289
>Americans wanted huge amounts of cash to do experiments on said child

Why do you feel the need to lie?

>>132291470
>Even if it was or not true, people would have forgotten about it soon enough.

They haven't. There's still daily threads on it. These are the finest thinkers the right has to offer. Completely open to logic and reason.

>>132285760
They're bitter that Trump isn't being the heel they need him to be. Kayfabe, guys. That's all party politics is. Only a mongoloid would think it's important.

>>132287997
>It cannot open its eyes

parents posted a picture of the baby with his eyes open

>>132291664
>cries eugenics to try and prove they totally fit in and are le right wing xD

Shariablue is just getting pathetic at this point.

>>132291632
> maybe not
> common core education
The Shlomo doctor who's offering the treatment is saying this you imbecile.

>experimental treatment the results of which can be used to help others even though their kid won't make it
>the parents are paying for it themselves so it's of no cost to anyone else

What's the issue? Why are statists so willing to bend over to their mommy government?

>>132291756
> XD
Praise Kek and the Goy Emperor! Kys ledditfag

>>132291429
>Yes, it is.
Can you quote me any law from your little country's legal system stating that one person can be the exclusive legal property of another person?

Doesn't seem to be the case here, anyway, seeing as two courts rejected that legal argument.

>>132291509
>Are children and people property of the state?
Nobody is the property of any other person. Slavery went away a long time ago.

>>132291556
>That's the parent's decision, not yours.
Actually, it's the court's decision, which is the only reason we're having this thread in the first place.

>>132291795
> help others
This disease is almost non-existent.

>>132291664
Gay flag.
12 year old
reddit tier poster
>

>>132291289
It should not be the states decision to make, you bootlicking commie.

>>132291879
You're not fooling anyone, Shareblue.

>>132291956
>almost

Again what's the problem if they're willing to pay?

>>132291721
Not in a day you fucking faggot. Trends last, but not forever. How long has this shit been going for? 1 week? 1 month? 1 year? From what I can tell these threads have been around for less than 1 month.

Also you didn't answer my question.
>Do you remember panama papers?
NO YOU FUCKING DON'T RETARD, IF NOT FOR ME MENTIONING YOU WOULDN'T HAVE REMEMBERED JACK SHIT.

>>132287997

what does that have anything to do with the situation? UK wants to kill the baby, the family raises over a million for a shot in the dark chance for treatment elsewhere in the USA. why do you NEED to keep the baby in the UK? how does it moving to the states for treatment harm anyone?

>>132289421
>babies in dumpsters at hospital
This is beyond fake and gay. This is overtly fraudulent and extremely homosexual.

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>>132291681
>Why do you feel the need to lie?
Politics IS lying.

>>132289724
The child's suffering has already been prolonged by the machines.
There is absolutely no indication that the treatment will help in any way.
There's no indication that the treatment won't harm the child either.

The parents want what they think is best for their child, but in reality they are being selfish. Too much emotional investment on their part to see the futility of the situation.
Trump intends the best, but this wasn't necessary and may contribute to the extended suffering.

Sometimes you just have to let go.

>>132291795
Do you honestly have no problem with the idea of forcing a child who is in ceaseless, endless suffering to undergo a completely unproven treatment which even the most deluded quack admits will only prolong his suffering, and leave him in no way, shape or form any better off that he is now? Do you not see anything morally wrong with that?

>>132291664
>one of the original progressive positions is right wing
>even apealing to a false dichotomy in the first place
>and larping this hard as an edgy fuck in all in one post

i think rebbit might be more your speed

>>132292002
>>> r/eddit

>trump literally looking at memes
>posts the CNN wrestling webm he found on meme safari

>>132292113
If it will help others then no I have no issue with it

>>132291971
>It should not be the states decision to make, you bootlicking commie.
What about the draft?
>inb4 false equivalency

>>132292035
It's not their money. It's literally muh feels donation money.

>>132289182
Baby will die either way. Parents have a right to choose every option, there is nothing to lose.

They could at least let them bring their baby home.

>>132291539

if theres even a chance that you could contribute to research for an ultra rare disease, not taking that chance is insanity. uk is being retarded. you cant just not take every chance possible when youre a parent trying to save your kid. even if the kid dies they can help future kids. fuck off britcuck

>>132292232
Which was voluntarily donated so it's now their money.

>>132292131
You're as braindead as the aberration this 32 yo roastie has birthed.

>>132288995
CAN it suffer?
I know nothing about this story, but do you have evidence that it feels anything at all?
I don't have evidence that it doesn't feel anything, just wanted to know if you had any confirming that it does.

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>>132292055
They've been here every day since at least last September. Years before that if you lump in the pedowood threads.

And yes, Panama papers embarrassed Vladimir Manlet and is puppet Ass-ange.

Have another redpill you spastic, you sound unmedicated.

>>132292292
Obtained by using fraudulent information.

>>132289705
money hole? you mean women?

>>132287394
>t. Babykiller

>>132292110
>oy vey goyim, big brother knows best
Gas yourself kike
>>132292205
Go fuck yourself you nigger-loving cuck
>inb4 ad hominem

>>132291900
>Slavery went away a long time ago
No it's called being Progressive now. Slavery was a government enforced institution, where people couldn't dictate what happened to their children.

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>be british
>be born
>parents try to give you private health care
>NHS murders you

>>132291761

https://youtu.be/7JYJhWIwGUw

>>132290969
They can take the baby to a walk-in clinic rather than an ER
>>132291900
Someone must make a decision. Either the states decide or the parents. It should be the parents.

>>132292202
>If it will help others then no I have no issue with it
You believe a person can be held in endless artificial suffering with no means of escape as long as there is the possibility, however vague or fanciful, that someone somewhere may benefit in any way?

How can you justify that?

>>132285760
>wanting to save a white baby
into the trash it should go with drumpf

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So, did you guys hear about this, did you guys read about this?

Donald Drump--excuse me, Mr. 2 Scoops is trying to save a baby.

>>132285927
This is why Trump became involved. First, he gets to do something good as the president, second, he gets to make liberals look bad once again.

>>132292454
I'm not defending the state, dumdum.
It shouldn't have gotten involved, and it wouldn't have been if the parents weren't so retarded.
Then again parents do what parents do, and these can't bear reality yet.
It's this recklessness on the parents part that's the problem.

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>Cares about foreign kid
>Doesn't care about American children losing healthcare through healthcare cuts.

>>132285760
>weak, terminally ill baby
>saving
that it's called to be a piece of shit. Let that suffering creature die in peace.

>>132291971
someones got to stop the torture, got 4 healthy ones, be the first to stop suffering if it happened.
Your right but the state cares for qusimodos too, some ones got to stand back and give the honest truth.

>>132292606
>Someone must make a decision. Either the states decide or the parents. It should be the parents.
Agreed, unless the parents make the wrong decision. Then it is up to the state to step in and protect the rights and best interests of the child.

>>132292569
>No it's called being Progressive now.
So edgy. Wow. ;^)

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He's not going to die, I swear. Don't listen to all the doctors, just give me good PR you fucking idiots. I'll cure him with DUDE MEMES.

>>132291755
Weekend at Bernie's.

>>132292897
Not edgy, Progressivism is just Communism ie Marx's doctrine of international socialism rebranded. Ask a Progressive their thoughts on Marx and it's nothing but glowing praise.

>>132292678
>Donald Drump--excuse me, Mr. 2 Scoops is trying to save a baby.
Just checking - can you explain how Trump is going to save this baby? What curative treatment is he going to offer?

>>132290882
You have zero right to tell a parent to let their child die. Sucks, but that is infringing on those parents' rights

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>>132285760
>Trump
>compassionate

>>132290969
>Emergency rooms saddle you with a bill for $800 for not doing much.
Why do you think that is? Because of the insurance industry and the collusion between them and hospitals.

>>132293064
>Ask a Progressive their thoughts on Marx and it's nothing but glowing praise.
Tell me what you don't like about Marx's writings and thoughts.

>>132285760
>Making excuses for the most powerful person in the world.
Trump Defense League out in full force the evening I see.

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>>132285760
/pol/:

Due to the distinct differences culturally, politically, and economically between western and eastern Canada, myself and a group of other Western Canadians are starting a libertarian movement called the Western Alliance, which proposes that British Columbia, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Northwest Territories and the Yukon secede and become one single independent nation, in charge of our own destiny.

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>@WAMovement

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>>132292897

>unless the parents make the wrong decision

So then the state is then defacto always the one making the decision as they can veto a choice by the parents if they don't agree with it.
Did you experience some kind of double-think where you believed you were agreeing with his sentiment or are you just being purposefully disingenuous here?

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>>132292454

>>132292897
>you have total freedom to make any choice you want
>unless we disagree then jackbooted thugs will show up to make you choose correctly
Typical leftist.

>>132292897
>unless the parents make the wrong decision

This boils down to "do what the state says or we murder your baby for you anyway".
Fucking leftys love that sweet, sweet baby blood.

>>132290017
Oy fucking VEY! We just need to import more brown babies

>>132293521
>you have total freedom to make any choice you want
>unless we disagree then jackbooted thugs will show up to make you choose correctly
Typical social conservative on /pol/.

>>132293118
It's a joke you reddittard. Calm down.

>>132293212
Keeping that kid alive is child abuse. His entire life will be nothing but pain.

>>132293517
There's not much of a point in arguing with you when you openly admit what logical fallacy you're committing.

>>132293586
I see you've moved on to strawman.

>>132285927
WTF I hate babes now

>>132292372
>i know nothing but can humans feel pain?

>>132293643
Keeping anyone making under three figures a year alive is abuse because their lives are torture.
One million years gulag for you.

>>132293318
The Free market as a means of accelerationism to bring about his revolution due to disenfranchisement therefore growing the workers class awareness. I can go on "comrade".

>>132293390
Stupid idea.

>>132293436
>So then the state is then defacto always the one making the decision as they can veto a choice by the parents if they don't agree with it.
Yup. The state is the final and ultimate guarantor of a child's well-being.

>>132293566
>This boils down to "do what the state says or we murder your baby for you anyway".
Nah, that's transparently bullshit. Protecting children from abusive parents is an undeniable good.

>>132293612
Sorry. It's difficult to tell the difference in this thread.

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>>132293713
>politics
>strict logic

>>132286286

>socialized medicine has the power to say who lives or dies

Sounds like she doesn't understand basic parallel reasoning.

>>132285760
There's nothing Trump can do... Trumps a piece of shit. David Frum a CNN commentator says it almost in those words.

>>132286286
You people really do actually love indebting others based on your own group narcissism don't you?

>>132293836
Are you comparing poverty to an incurable, terminal, physically excruciating illness?

>>132293947

>the state is the final

Why did you state that you agree with him when you clearly do not? Are you an idiot or just ironic reddit tier-trolling?

>>132293947
Protecting children from a murderous state is an undeniable good.

>The state is the final and ultimate guarantor of a child's well-being
Oh, your role playing as a euro. Very well, carry on.

>>132285760
>Trump saves and cures the baby turning it normal
>Sends the family back to UK with American flag t-shirts and maga hats
It will happen

>>132294134
It's the entire Democratic platform, why shouldn't I?

>>132292285
>t. Josef mengele

>>132293118
God loves Trump.

>>132294172
>Why did you state that you agree with him when you clearly do not?
I agreed with what he said, very clearly. The state is indeed the ultimate protector of the child's rights.

>>132294176
>Protecting children from a murderous state is an undeniable good.
Ah, I see. You took my argument and swapped words out, without making any attempt to rebut my argument. Nice job.

>Oh, your role playing as a euro.
That's the case here too bud. Sorry! :^)

>>132294176
Who do you suppose is the final guarantor, in case the entire family line gets into some sort of calamitous accident? Final, not proximal.

>>132294204
No amount of money is going to save this kid dude. Best case is the parents get 6 months to a year with their writhing, tortured child.

>>132294134
Yeah m8, my brother has arthritis and he still loves his life
Can't imagine it without him

Why did I even go to Jezebel? Every single poster there is calling Trump a "horrible person" and saying the baby should be even more dead. Yikes. What a compassionate group.

>>132294396
There's no need to make an argument against shitposting.

>>132294467
Now you're comparing shitty joint pain to progressive brain damage and muscle atrophy?

>>132294648
>Yikes. What a compassionate group.
;^)

>>132294653
>There's no need to make an argument against shitposting.
I'm curious, do you call any argument you don't like shitposting? Do you not believe that is a good thing to protect children from situations in which they are being abused by their parents, who have been charged with their care and protection?

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>>132294396

>i agreed

No you didn't. You stated that you agreed and then immediately inserted a caveat whereby you took the opposite position.

Are you an idiot or merely acting retarded on purpose?

>>132294648
Real compassionaite torturing a dying kid and his parents with fake hope.

>>132287997
you're not paying for it so why do you care?
let the guy try to save his baby. Even if it's a 1/100 chance.

>>132290255
God why do my people have to be so retarded

Want to know something funny?
On our shit fake news channels, they tried to define canada and asked a bunch of real people....

they said "uh, maple syrup?". All of them.

my country is defined by maple syrup and liberals. Fucking hell.

Pretty progressive that he's using this child's death to score political points. Is he taking lessons from Labour?

The child is brain dead, nothing can be done.

>>132288888

This ties into the 'Donald Trump could literally cure cancer and be called a pos for it' saying pretty well

>>132295155
>1/100
Not even that

>>132295053
Basically this >>132295117 and the wanton lust for innocent entrails emanating from your every post.

>>132295117
>No you didn't. You stated that you agreed and then immediately inserted a caveat whereby you took the opposite position.
No, you mouth-breathing retard.

Parents should take every decision that affects their children. I agree completely with him on that point. The only situation in which that it is not the case is when they make decisions that harm their children. They have no right to harm their children. In that case, the state must step in to protect the child from the harm his parents are doing to him.

I don't know how to make it any easier for you.

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>>132285760
Liberals just can't be satisfied.

>Do something bad
>RRRREEEEEEEEEE
>Do something good
>He's just doing it for personal/political gain!

>>132295391
does anyone actually know the odds? The treatment is completely experimental isn't it?
Anyways I don't get why it's anyone decision to make other than his and his wife. If he wanted to use public money for the treatment, absolutely, I'd understand saying no. But if he has money for it it's no one else's business.

>>132295462

>i agree except i don't

If you feel that the state should be able to step in and veto the choices of the parents then the state is the one in charge and not the parents.

>>132295735
>Do something good
;^)

>>132295790
>Anyways I don't get why it's anyone decision to make other than his and his wife.
Because the child is living every day in artificial, deliberate, induced suffering. The treatment is completely unproven and is no more likely to help the child than doing a rain dance outside his hospital room. The poor child's parents are abusing him. It's only right and just that the state steps in to protect him.

>>132290255
Even if calling you a faggot were illegal I'd still call you a faggot. Nothing in life will limit me from speaking the truth just as nothing stopped you from sucking cocks.
You might win, you might even succeed at eventually having me imprisoned or killed but I've already squeezed out 6 kids and they're all church going and would call you a faggot as well. In the end the more socialization, the more of my precious white trash lineage I get to have on your dime and with racial preferences and front holes we will simply rise again because poop pushing doesn't make kids you faggots.

>>132295878
>If you feel that the state should be able to step in and veto the choices of the parents then the state is the one in charge and not the parents.
Nope. Parents are in charge, subject to the law. Pure and simple.

>>132295790

The odds were in the hundreds of thousands. Only a handful of other people in the world have the same condition.

British, European and American doctors have all said the treatment is unlikely to work and would still leave him in a vegetative state for the rest of his life.

>>132285927
It's funny because the liberals cry out hysterical emotional propoganda lies as if they're arguments way more then the right does.

>>132285927
>Strong enough to kill babies

>Not strong enough to raise them

>>132295123
So what. It's not like it will be even more brain dead or even more severely mentally disabled. And it's what the parent's want to do. Forcing them to pull the plug is worse.

>>132296080

How can they be in charge if the state can veto any of their choices? How can that possibly make sense to you?

>muh harm

Who defines harm? The state. The state can define harm as anything from eating pork to teaching children of past wrongs done by the state.

The state can veto any choices by citizens based on the idea that it causes harm, and harm is defined by the state? Then the state is in charge. Period.

Fuck off with your inane double-think.

>>132285760
no americans sick/dying?
he has to find someone in uk to save?
looks like grandstanding to me

>>132295790
>I don't get why it's anyone decision to make other than his and his wife.

They're prolonging the ineviatble to make themselves feel better. They would rather keep their child in unimaginable suffering than accept that he's already dead.

>>132296360
>How can they be in charge if the state can veto any of their choices? How can that possibly make sense to you?
Because in a normal, freedom-loving democracy, everyone is subject to the law. I cannot choose to murder another person. That does not mean I am not in charge of my own destiny. I also cannot choose to harm my child. That does not mean I am not my child's legal guardian.

>The state can define harm as anything from eating pork to teaching children of past wrongs done by the state.
Slippery-slope hysteria.

>>132295996
>Because the child is living every day in artificial, deliberate, induced suffering. The treatment is completely unproven and is no more likely to help the child than doing a rain dance outside his hospital room. The poor child's parents are abusing him. It's only right and just that the state steps in to protect him.
Is this the point of view that is being pushed by the media in Britain? That's very strange. I understand child abuse laws, when it's ment to remove a child from a dangerous or neglectful environment, but this is a situation where he's trying to save the childs life. How do you measure the value of suffering compared to death? What about someone who has cancer and a 2% chance of recovery? Do you put them to sleep like you would a sick dog? The treatment may be unproven, but that's another reason to try it. At least something could be learned by a failure.

>>132296342

But the NHS would have to pay for his decades of treatment when he returns to the UK?

trump might cut 20 mn ppl's health care but he's gonna save that brain dead kid in england

>>132296842
I guess you do have a lot of Pakis to pay for. You're right.

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>>132296459
Fuck you leafcuck. Donald Trump is a generous man.

>>132295735
>Liberals just can't be satisfied.
That's the point. People who have enough don't need self-appointed shepherds to blow sunshine up their asses.

>>132296724
>but this is a situation where he's trying to save the childs life.
No he isn't. There is no known medical treatment for the child's condition. He's suggesting prolonging the poor child's artificial, completely unnecessary suffering in order to virtue signal.

>>132296933

I'll just leave this here for all you grand standing septics.

British courts have already concluded that it would be lawful for the hospital to withdraw life sustaining treatment because it was likely Charlie would suffer significant harm if his suffering was prolonged without realistic prospect of improvement. The experimental therapy, the courts maintained, would produce no effective benefit.

During a hearing at the high court in April, Mr Justice Francis considered evidence from a specialist who would oversee any treatment Charlie had at a hospital in the US.

The specialist, who cannot be named for legal reasons, said therapy would provide a “small chance” of a meaningful improvement in Charlie’s brain function.

He told the court via a telephone link from America: “It may be a treatment, but not a cure. [Charlie] may be able to interact. To smile. To look at objects.”

Charlie has a rare inherited disease – infantile onset encephalomyopathy mitochondrial DNA depletion syndrome (MDS). The condition causes progressive muscle weakness and brain damage.

>>132296966
looks like a cheap publicity stunt.

>>132295878
>choices
With other people's money? Are you sure about that?

>>132297071

It is, he can be ruthless when he wants to be, that's the only way you make it in business and he won't miss an opportunity for some political capital.

I like Trump but damn, he's harvesting feefee's for politics at the expense of this dead kid and his two grieving parents.

>>132295025
>shitty joint pain
Spoken like a person who has never had to live with someone with arthritis

>>132297351
>Spoken like a person who has never had to live with someone with arthritis
Nah mate. Arthritis from being too fat is utterly incomparable with this poor child's disease. Don't even bother trying to compare.

>>132297510
What about arthritis from typing for the man? Are you done blaming the victims yet?

>>132297280
of all the ppl trump could have helped he picks a brain dead foreigner

>>132297590
>What about arthritis from typing for the man?
If you don't care for your body, bad things happen. Utterly irrelevant to this situation.

>>132297049
I just don't care, and you shouldn't either. You'll stop caring when over half of your government aid goes to non whites who are perfectly capable of living without it.

>>132286126
of course its a negative headline. are you fucking dumb?

>>132296699

>slippery slope

The hell it is. Those were clearly demostrable actions taken by a number of states past and present.

The state is in charge, not the parents. The state has the interests of the state as a priority, not the childs. Politicians are using this to push agendas and score political points. Nothing more.

Further to your point. If there are things you cannot choose to do then you are not free. You have the limited set of freedoms which the state allows you to have. Nothing more.

Consider your double-think, friend. I'm going to bed. Please provide your snarkiest reply.

>>132285760

>shitty genetically defective baby that will never have a decent life
>country decides not to spend all their money for however long to torture this kid
>offer to gib other people's money to drag shitty defective mess out longer

Empty, stupid fucking gesture for muh feelz points.

>>132297623

If they want to treat him they can, as long as the American tax payer is willing to pay for his decades of 24 hour after care.

Maybe Trump has a space $10million lying around, that might cover 10 years.

>>132297691
>i didn't read your post blah blah muslim ahmed niggers

>>132297071
You stupid fucking ugly leaf.
It must be maddening knowing that the Government gets decide your child's fate.

Day of the rake needs to come sooner

>>132297896
yeah I mean what's the best case scenario,
he'll cost millions for decades and won't appreciate 1 second of it?

>>132285760
>did trump offer to save the kid or what?
Fuck off Sweden. You're now the butthole of Europe, even more than Romania

>>132291608
The kid isn't brain dead. His mitochondria don't work. You need some kind of gene thearpy to cure it.

>>132288468
>American babies will die of easily treatable infections

lol what? wrong

>>132297877
>Politicians are using this to push agendas and score political points. Nothing more.
But Trump genuinely cares, right?

>You have the limited set of freedoms which the state allows you to have. Nothing more.
In that case, not one person on this earth is free, which would suggest to me that your definition is overly strict.

>>132298016
>It must be maddening knowing that the Government gets decide your child's fate.
It doesn't though. It only gets to make decisions on how to treat the child when the parents have proven themselves incapable of doing so.

>>132286286
>kinja
confirmed for leftist faggots

>>132293789
>The baby is a cabbage
>The baby is totally suffering, please just end its misery :(
You're giving some conflicting signals.

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>it's a government board's job to decide when it's time to stop wasting taxpayer money keeping somebody alive
> death panels are a right-wing fantasy used to frighten people away from socialized medicine
Pick one, libcucks.

>>132285760
>>132285927
Bring up the Pope doing the same.

I heard about the baby first because of the Pope, then Trump came out.

>>132285760
>be compassionate human

That's a sign of weakness.

>>132298870
What, specifically, do you believe a "death panel" to be?

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>>132297881
oh you little fag!
When your little kid grabbed your finger and you felt that you need to protect it with all you have.... I'll ask you how do you feel about people deciding he needs to die and you can't do nothing about it!!
If they do it to one family and the president of the United states can't stop it... that's a pretty dark world!

I just don't get why trump would choose to help that kid. 10s of thouands are sick in yemen from easily treatable diseases

>>132299073
>I'll ask you how do you feel about people deciding he needs to die and you can't do nothing about it!!
The child does need to die. He is in endless, ceaseless, cruel suffering and pain. Keeping him alive because you are too weak and selfish to accept what needs to happen is abhorrent.

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What would the hospital have done if the parents arranged to have the child transported to America for the treatment?

Like, physically barred them from getting to him? Arrest them? Use lethal force against them?

This is where it ends, Brit Cucks. You've allowed the state to actually MURDER your fucking children in front of you.

>>132299190
It's pretty obvious optics, leaf. People are afraid new healthcare will leave them helpless in the case of an emergency. Trump shows that America will still be the leader in healthcare by taking a child a socialized system wasn't able to help and treating him. British doctors said it was impossible, Americans spend a lot of money and save the kid.

>>132298139

You know, if it was any other nation I wouldn't care. But it makes me laugh when Trump has removed state funded aid for millions of kids like this so they can build another 20 aircraft carriers to bully China, and then they wade in on this from the high ground.

>>132285760
It seems morally wrong to support soft eugenics, but then I talk to dumb person and I begin to wonder.

>>132296117
Also how the fuck are they going to transport him? Poor kid. I read in the judgment though that they cannot be sure if he feels pain or not.

>>132299417
>Like, physically barred them from getting to him?
Probably.
>Arrest them?
Maybe.
>Use lethal force against them?
Nope.

Does that answer your questions?

>>132287024
Just pretend it's a shitskin refugee, Germany.
That will make you feel better.

>>132298997
You'll find out soon enough.

>>132299429
they won't save him andtaking shots at the british nhs seems kinda lame

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>>132299559

No.

Because it then begs a larger question: why didn't they just do it?

They had the money, and could easily have found someone to help them transport him.

There's literally no reason for this other than wilful subjugation. The parents were of the mindset that "the state has this right, we must do as we are told".

We're talking about a hospital willfully allowing a child to die, when there's literally NO good reason for them to do so.

if only the british pay 2/3rds more to useless middleman. well we wouldn't be able to do anything for this kid but...

Like he inserted himself in CNNs ass

>>132286286
50 million unborn babies and counting.
And then they have the balls to talk about muh nazi genocides

>>132290017
It will not "help". It is BRAIN DAMAGED.

How the FUCK do you help brain damage? Nevermind being unable to fucking divide cells, grow, maintain DNA, fucking BREATHE.

God you Americans are so fucking retarded. Even the Dr Shekelstein is now admitting it will do fuck all. They're simply wanting to use a baby as a human test subject, it's fucking despicable.

Let it die with some god damn dignity. "Treatments" for genetic defects are done by taking DNA damples, analysing them, reproducing the problem (IN MICE), creating a drug to fix it (IN MICE), then trialing on humans.

Not just pulling something random out of your arse and sticking it in a baby sop big pharma can make millions.

Do you people have no fucking soul?

IT.HAS.BRAIN.DAMAGE.BEYOND.ALL.POSSIBLE.REPAIR.

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>>132286286
>>132288451
>>132290247
I made a smuggie for this because I thought it was really stupid.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/jezebel/

Why did you link to an extreme left wing source?

maybe the uk just needs more billionaires to help genetically damaged babies

more tax cuts for the rich!

>>132299781
>You'll find out soon enough.
So you can't even explain what you imagine a "death panel" to be, or how one might work?

>>132299992
>We're talking about a hospital willfully allowing a child to die, when there's literally NO good reason for them to do so.
Can you explain what the hospital's argument is, and why it is so compelling that not only the British courts but even the European Court of Human Rights sided with the child?

>>132291755
It has no motor functions! Read what the fucking syndrome entails. It can't even BREATHE unaided by machines.

Obv the parents opened it's fucking eyes for a photo op. The milking that's being done is crazy.

Seriously they'll be taking more than just your foreskins for experiments soon, they'll want your whole babies as well.

You do NOT just use babies as experiments so Shekelstein can make some extra cash. This is beyond disgusting.

>>132301028
Jesus Christ the autism in this thread is peak level.

A parent would lay down their life for even a 1/100 chance a child may live.

If you don't get this, don't have kids. If you already have kids and don't feel this, kys.

>>132301292
>A parent would lay down their life for even a 1/100 chance a child may live.
Not even the doctor who's offering this treatment claims it will be a cure, you autist. This child cannot be cured. The only way to end his suffering is to allow him to die in peace.

>>132301446
It could prolong his life long enough to see more advancement of other experimental treatments.
Also unconfirmed he is suffering.

Again, if you have kids and would surrender to the state the fate of your child, kys.

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>>132300734
>Can you explain what the hospital's argument is

Yes.

>allowing the child to go to America for life-saving treatment would be a blemish on the NHS and a failure of socialism
>therefore, the child must die
>it is for the good of the nation
>it must die with dignity
>lying in a bed
>shitting itself
>slowly wasting away
>IT
>MUST
>DIE.

>>132285760
>What the fuck is wrong with lefties?
They love killing babies.

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>>132301446
And obviously that's for the death panel, not the child's parents, to decide.

>>132301292
Indeed and they would stupidly prolong it's suffering also, because Dr Jew Shekelstein in Amerisrael has pretended he has some magical cure, that's never been tested, not even in mice, and for a gene defect that has had a grand total of 15 ever recorded, worldwide.

So, fucking, retarded.

And yes if I was in the parent's shoes, I'd be doing the same, thinking "try anything!", and for something THIS severe, I'd fucking hope someone would stop me.

There's a time when you have to draw a line, and that's when your spawn has a RRM2B defect, and brain / liver / kidney damage beyond all possible repair.

You DON'T just let random jews use babies for cash generation in big pharma, wtf is wrong with you?

They wouldn't even get any useful data from trying this. All existing patients have TK2 gene defects. You only need DNA samples to research treatments for this, not trying random shit.

The very fact they need so much money for something THIS rare should be setting off alarm bells.. Any doc worth their salt would be researching this shit for free.

>>132291956
Exactly, so it's hard to test cures

>>132302585
You test them in MICE you fucking retard!

>>132296117
So essentially, this treatment will never be cured because you faggots keep saying it's unproven and euthanize the possible test subjects?

>>132302288
>It could prolong his life long enough to see more advancement of other experimental treatments.
What facetious nonsense from a fool. There are no other therapies even in early clinical trials. This kid is dead. The parents just haven't accepted it yet.

>Also unconfirmed he is suffering.
I guess the actual medical experts and the courts are wrong then.

>>132302349
>>allowing the child to go to America for life-saving treatment would be a blemish on the NHS and a failure of socialism
>>therefore, the child must die
>>it is for the good of the nation
>>it must die with dignity
>>lying in a bed
>>shitting itself
>>slowly wasting away
>>IT
>>MUST
>>DIE.
Looks like a strawman, reads like a strawman, is a strawman.

Thanks.

>>132302452
>And obviously that's for the death panel, not the child's parents, to decide.
You've still completely failed to define what a death panel is or how it would work.

>>132302834
>So essentially, this treatment will never be cured because you faggots keep saying it's unproven and euthanize the possible test subjects?
Please revise your argument to include less strawman.

>>132302568
>Gagging for the state to intervene and sentence your baby to death because the Jews and receiving $2M in donations.

Peak level autism.

How about when Obama inserted himself into the story of a nigger sucker punching a Mexican and getting shot for it?

>>132302878
I believe we're all witnessing exactly how a death panel works.

>>132303049
>thinking a child is the property of its parents, to abuse and dispose of as they please
Vintage autism. Classic millennial bullshit.

>>132303143
>I believe we're all witnessing exactly how a death panel works.
Nah, stop being a coward. Describe in your own words exactly how a death panel would work.

>>132303200

The child is obviously unable to make its own decisions (being an infant), so you'd rather bureaucratic entities decide its fate rather then you know, its parents that created it and love it?

You don't have an argument that doesn't involve humans being the absolute property of whatever government entity it happens to be born under, dictated by random chance. You realize this, right?

>>132294102
Hey, look at this big boy sentence.

>>132299190
Because it shows an example of a death panel in NHS. When Democrats start demanding single payer. Trump will point to this.

>>132303706
>so you'd rather bureaucratic entities decide its fate rather then you know, its parents that created it and love it?
I've explained multiple times in this thread exactly what I believe. To prove you're not a strawmanning troll, find one of these posts and link to it, explicitly refuting my argument.

Thanks.

>>132303200
>not understanding the implications of letting the state choose who lives, who dies, who can seek which treatments, where and when someone can die.

Vintage Communist. Also extremely retarded.

>>132300464
nice. This was my first thought...

>>132303334
Ok. Imagine there's a child with a congenital disease that leads the physicians treating that child to give a grim prognosis and prescribe hospice care. The child's loved ones wish to consult other physicians and have the means to do so, but are required to make their case in the judicial system in order to do so. The judges say fuck your parental rights, the child dies.
> death panel
It's a far fetched scenario, I know.

>>132289421
pics or it didn't happen you larping faggot

>>132285927
>Liberals:
>HOW THE FUCK COULD HE DO THIS
The real question is why does Trump absolutely not give the first fuck about MILLIONS of Americans who will soon be dying without healthcare, but he pretends to care about this kid to glory-grab some cheap headlines?

>>132286286
I don't get why they don't just have another baby

>>132304049
Self-centred millennial bullshit.

>>132304157
>Ok. Imagine there's a child with a congenital disease that leads the physicians treating that child to give a grim prognosis and prescribe hospice care. The child's loved ones wish to consult other physicians and have the means to do so, but are required to make their case in the judicial system in order to do so. The judges say fuck your parental rights, the child dies.
Odd. Good thing it has nothing to do with this case, where extensive consultation has taken place and medical experts are unanimously agreed that there is no hope whatsoever of cure, and that the only responsible choice that protects the child's rights is to allow him to die in comfort.

>>132304422
Are you mentally retarded? Millions don't have healthcare now because Obamacare is a piece of shit. People are still not seeing doctors because their deductibles would still bankrupt them. For fuck sake, the only people helped by Obamacare are those with pre-existing conditions but the answer still isn't to make everyone else subsidize their coverage.

>>132291189
>super mario sunshine poster
Say what you will about his appearance, but that gentleman has impeccable taste. Sunshine is the best Mario game.

>>132290882
Some of us love life so much and have reason enough to be alive that we'd deal with it. You fuckers that have nothing to live for and are on pills and are 6 months from offing yourself anyways don't get to tell mentally healthy people that life wouldn't be worth living in pain.

>>132287265
Bless you, anon. <3

>>132304692
Yes, yes. It's clearly settled. There's UNANIMOUS CONSENSUS. Anyone who disagrees should be jailed.
You can put them next to the climate change deniers.

>>132304914
>There's UNANIMOUS CONSENSUS.
Yes, there is, among medical and legal experts on this medico-legal question.

>Anyone who disagrees should be jailed.
Are you making a strawman argument again?

>>132305233
>Calls out a straw man but figures "self centered millienial" is sold argument against socialist death panels.

Impressive self BTFO, anon.