do every burger state is like an european country? explain

Go on a Google maps tour. I did it for Singapore and I was amazed

They speak English there!!!

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pretty much this, eurofaggot

yes, they make their own rules but still have to abide by the laws of the fed in most instances

>>132253001
In theory the Constitution enumerates a limited set of federal powers. Any power not specifically mentioned in the Constitution as a federal power is supposed to belong to the individual states.
In actuality the federal government has been illegally snatching powers (health care, abortion law, etc) from the states for hundreds of years.

>>132254006
tell me about that angola state.

>>132254021
>>132254194
I mean culturally, not legally wise.

do each state considers itself like a diferent culture?

Nope, they are basically glorified provinces.
Eastern (original colonies) and Southern ones have history and identity, everything else is basically bullshit, especially those square ones in the middle, there's almost no people there and all they do is grow corn and abuse meth.
t. expert

>>132253001
Almost. In order to join the union they give up some sovereignty and have to conform to some additional rules. For instance, the Constitution says only the federal government can engage in foreign affairs and that all of the states must be republics.

In practice, the federal government at present holds way more power than it should, so that the states are often more just like provinces of Canada most of the time. Notable exceptions include when states decide they want to decriminalize weed or have their own rules about guns or whatever else.

>>132254006

>mfw Michigan actually has a very high polish ancestry
>mfw I have no face

>>132254296
yes the states are unique in culture, for example New Mexico has a large spanish and native American population, compared to Alabama which is a large former slave population. Very distinct and different cultures and histories.

>>132255406
do they regard themselves as belonging to each state like a german thinks he's difernen than a french (being both white and european)?

>>132255699
yes lots of people identify with their state. the better the state the more people identify with it. hence why Texas is so popular

>>132254296
>tell me about that angola state.
Mississippi, it's full of niggers.

Explain your shit grasp on english firs-
>flag
Oh sorry

>>132255699
Not all states have a very strong self identity. Texas obviously makes a point of having a strong self-identity. Somebody from Rhode Island could tell you about its unique and interesting history, but few if any people would know what a "Rhode Islander" is like.

A lot of time culture varies more by region. If you're part of the Amish in PA, being Amish is much more of a cultural self-definition than how you happen to be in PA. If you live in NYC, that's a pretty big cultural difference from somebody who lives in upstate NY.

>>132256014
Is missisipi that state where the black guy in forest gump is?

>>132256251
no thats Louisiana.

they are very similar. Alabama Mississippi Louisiana.

blah blah blah they have niggers. they are also some of the only states where the majority of whites are red pilled AS FUCK.

i'm not even from or liviing in any of those states but they are some good states

>>132254296
The us is about 11 different cultural regions that don't really like each other. This usually plays out in sports rivalries and our retarded political system, but could make for an insane civil war.

>>132255699
Yea pretty much actually, many people are loyal to their states and identify with them. For example I'm from Texas but live in New Mexico... I think Texas sucks and New Mexico is better, and I think Arizona and Colorado suck because they're asshole hipster faggots... it's all subjective, but yes, many people identify with their states maybe in the same way people identify with their favorite sports teams

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>>132253001
Culture is more microcosms than state based.

Michigan has like 3 or 4 distinct cultures.

Anyone below the Thumb is a retard into cars, the Up North region are typically meth heads, Eastern Upper Peninsula is people who only know how to build boats and die in meth explosions and Western Upper Peninsula is a bunch of people LARPing 1938 Finland while also being the greatest people on the Earth next to the Finns in Finland and Estonians in Estonia.

>>132256387
and where is tom sayer?

>>132253001
Nice ugly nigger hair

>>132256504
11? more like 100

>>132256251
nope he's from a Louisiana parish near the gulf of mexico but that whole region has the same climate, hot humid etc with lots of blacks violent niggers in the city and decent blacks in the country. The white people are rednecks and cockstrong, they go hunting and fishing and the women are beautiful down south

>>132256563
>I think Texas sucks and New Mexico is better
explain

>>132256632
I think he was missouri

>>132256632
that would be Missouri

today, Mississippi Alabama Louisiana are probably more similar to the town he lived in, although there are certainly some places in Missouri still like that.

its just because thats where Mark Twain was from

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>>132253001
>>132254006

>>132256878
what's the diference.

>>132256801
Texas is very hot, flat, can't surf the gulf, people are kind of smug, the cities suck, lots of transplants from other states, it's like a big hot suburb of the u.s. with some good fishing in some areas but mostly just hot and boring

>>132257058
>Texas is very hot
some
>flat
thats why you visit New Mexico during skiing season
>can't surf the gulf
New Mexico is better?
>people are kind of smug
any city anywhere
>the cities suck
New Mexico is better?
>lots of transplants from other states
maybe in the big cities... New Mexico is better?

>>132257005
Not much difference, missouri will have more farmland, st. louis is big with lotsa mean niggers, not much happening in missouri really, ferguson riots were in missouri. IDK I haven't spent much time there and no reason whatsoever to go, I think it most likely is just a shitty state, no mountains, hot and humid in the summer, cold as fuck in the winter, deadbeat violent niggers in the cities, white trash meth heads in the country

>>132257005
Missouri is a state that borders the Mississippi River, and that is its identity. Those other states mentioned are more identified as being gulf states.

>>132257005
Missouri is colder, has less blacks, has a smaller population, is probably less red pilled and less conservative

>>132257277
There's only two places you want to live in NM, either Albuquerque or Santa Fe, SF is the capital so lots of asshole lawyers and overpaid bureacrats, albuquerque is mid size with a more diverse economy. Kind of hot in the summer 90-95 no humidity, no bugs... it's all a compromise

>>132257378
Missouri also has a big part of it being part of the Ozarks, which in some ways is a bit of a trans-state culture.

>>132257468
I would live in Cloudcroft.. only place I have been. drove through Santa Fe but dont remember it much.

I guess if you are a city guy it may be better. doubt either city holds up to Fort Worth though.

>>132257499
most states have multiple cultures and those cultures often overlap between states.

>>132257630
Cloudcroft is a small mountain town with limited economy. It's ok for a weekend but you can't make a living there, plus that mountain range is tiny, you'd have more fun in Silver City if you're into mountain towns since the Gila Wilderness is enormous with actual rivers etc.

>>132256972
>PA
>Still borders New Jersey
>Now borders California
Why live

>>132254006
>((((((((GDP)))))))) is the best way to measure similarities between two completely different places
Hello, Moshi.

>>132258293
At least we moved a little further away from Ohio.

>>132258442
Whom'st are'st thou'st quoting?

>>132256972
whats that map?

GDP?
land size?

>>132258649
The kike that measures how similar completely different places are by measuring ((((((((GDP)))))))) and decides to make a map on it.

>>132258481
Ohio is our greatest ally

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>>132255699
Your states with the most consolidated culture in my opinion are Texas, Louisiana, West Virginia, and Alabama. Their cities feel like their country. Their country feels like their cities. There's little cultural schism, people identify as from that state regardless of where in that state they're from.

>>132256387
Yet race relations are better there than on the coasts. White and Black Americans see each other eye to eye with respect, both hating on the trashier, strung-out members of society.

>>132256972
I really fucking hate the "Best country in the world" meme the US keeps bringing up.

The EU and US are both unions, compare us that way! Just because you call yourself a country and compare dick sizes with tiny countries don't mean shit.

Ohio was the first on the moon, Not the other 50 fuck off with that bullshit. California is the only one close enough to us. Just to make it fair I won't use my union (The UK). England's economy decimates every state on their own.

I'm sick of this so much, sorry if I seem OBSESSED but its the fucking media forcing the USA down our throats!

>>132261320
what the fuck

>>132261556
>"do every burger state is like an european country?"

My response is yes, they are. I'm just saying US citizens use the "country" meme to always try and one up us.

You know is fucking true,

inb4 a fuck ton of responses of Americans ganging up on me.

>>132262159
that is the stupidest shit i have ever heard mate.

>>132262227
Are you saying Americans don't go around parading their country to everyone?

>>132262344
>My response is yes, they are.
this is retarded. the UK is a country and the US is a too.

>>132262543
Social construct, The EU and US have so much in common.

>The both have a flag
>The both have a president
>They have a central government
>The have member states with their own laws

Its not retarded at all. Give me structural difference between the US and EU?

>>132253001
do you english at all? faggot.

>>132262829
>European Union - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union
The European Union (EU) is a political and economic union of 28 member states that are located primarily in Europe.

>>132262543
The only reason people don't treat the EU as a single country is because people "don't believe" it is. Which is just an opinion, look at the hard facts.

>>132263006
The United States Of America (USA) is a political and economic union of 50 member states that are located primarily in North America.

>>132262159
the #1 meme really is that now except it's believed, even though anybody with half a brain and some knowledge of politics/infrastructure/taxes will know most people are being fucked over and there is nothing they can do (or will be done) to change that.

>muh guns
>muh freedom
>muh muh muh military might

people were sold the american dream, and still believe that time hasn't gone and they have a chance to be on the top rung or even middle of a ladder that has already been sold.

>>132253001
Come back when you can speak English

>>132254006
Fuck, I live in literally Sweden.

>>132263108
alright man, if you want to tell yourself that your country is nothing more than what a pathetic state would be in america, go for it. i would feel bad if i were you

>>132263108
Structural technicalities aside (I've never read the EU documents but I doubt I would have to go very far before pointing out key was it differs from our documents), don't you think the cultural construct is pretty key?

Sure if I go to the south then I'm a yankee, but I've never been anywhere in the country where we're not all Americans. Growing the country up from colonies in this union is a quite a bit different from taking a patchwork of different long-standing tribes who spent recorded history fighting with each other and mashing them into a union.

>>132253001
>do every burger state is like an european country?
no, because they have basic liberties, while every european state is a socialsitic shithole.
except liechtenstein.

People here get tattoos of the stste theyre from

>>132254006
so it'd take a lot of states to even make a UK or Germany

>>132263596
I'm not saying that, I'm saying don't hide behind the other 49 states. I'd feel bad for you!

>>132263696
I'm gonna be outnumbered by Americans on this argument so I'm gonna use external sources to back me up.

Watch this, come back and tell it isn't just public opinion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lj127TKu4Q

>>132264388
thats exactly what you said lol

>>132264388
I don't know that we're really disagreeing very much.

Personally I'm a big fan of returning more power to the individual states, but there are some pretty hard and fast rules, like only the federal government directs foreign affairs. It's not like Germany deciding it will help bomb Libya while the UK abstains, or whatever.

There isn't argument about each state having to share a currency or be beholden to a German bank or a Greek financial dictator, since all of that was always outlined in the Constitution from the beginning. It didn't clumsily evolve out of a steel trading agreement.

>>132264388

you have to remember the majority of americans really are brainwashed to believing what they're sold. facts or rational thought rarely will change peoples minds here

grow up singing to a flag and ideology and told everything you and your country does is best will only breed ignorance

>>132260439
>Not mentioning the cheeseheads vs flatlanders (WI and IL) rivalry.

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>>132254006
>Washington D.C. has the GDP of Hungary
>our fucking capital city is worth more than their entire nation

>>132264875
That is correct, I am from England, England is a state within the UK, which is a state within the EU.

You are from a state which is within the US.

Just get rid of the loose term of "Country".

It's either you compare the EU as a whole to the USA as a whole
Or you compare England to say Alabama.

I just don't want Americans to pick and choose smaller targets when they compare themselves to us.

>>132265196
My whole argument boils down too, Americans talk shit about the UK and compare military/economy etc. But when I want to compare just England to a state they say it's wrong.

>>132265234
This, originally you just had 13 states, you've forced out the sovereignty of the others. The EU is doing the same thing, we're all "EU citizens" now. It's the same thing, this is why we have freedom of movement, to make us seem less foreign.

>>132265234
what country is better?

>>132265702
top kek

>>132265579
>has the same
>worth more

and there is that yank logic

>>132265702
>germans wants more inmigration
>wow, nice, I'm a EU cuck now
really made me think.

>>132265709
The EU has the biggest trading block, our economy is almost equal to yours (no real winner).
We have health care, You have free speech and guns. Nit pick all you want we are nearly equal.

>B-b-b-but muh Military
EU is working on.

>B-b-b-but brit bong, you're leaving the EU
Same thing, don't compare the US and UK compare states within them.

And if Americans fail to compare us fairly then guess i'll just treat you like North Koreans do.

>>132265709

they're all good and all shit depending on what you want, or have.

it's all relative.

you just believe there is not place better because you've been told that everyday since birth. Norks fucking think the same way too

>>132266010
>>132265780
I've given you straight facts, find a hole.

>>132265702
This is stupid. We are dependant on each others' military and economies and natural resources and are united unlike anything in the EU is.

>>132253001
It's not even close.

In the beginning, more different than the countries of today's anglophere. But the war followed by the march of centralization has steamed out most of those differences today.

Now it's just inertia, crisco and larping. It will take the EU 100 years to mulch its constituent cultures into the same pablum.

>>132266170
no, actually, its because America is the only place with freedom of speech, 2nd amendment, and a limited government consitution.

>>132266180
one is a country and one isnt lol

>>132266170
^ This is so true, everything is relative.


>>132266190
"This is stupid", No it isn't.
The EU nations are now dependant on economies (The Euro for example), Natural resources are exported/import between states in both the EU and US. We just don't have the military yet*

>>132266360
They both share the attributes of a country, one is widely accepted, one isn't.

>>132266360
>>132266202
Let's check you know what you're on about.

Who's the president of the EU?

The president of the USA is Donald Trump.

They have both been voted in, and they both make decisions for their unions.

>>132266529
You're comparing apples and oranges. We are a country, the EU isn't. You're simply pointing out hypotheticals and not facing reality.

>>132266202
This. I think England has more regional variation than the US does desu.

>>132265702
Seems like splitting hairs. Obviously there geopolitical similarity between the EU and the USA, and you most assuredly could liken a sovereign EU country to a sovereign US state.

But the UK doesn't even use the same country code or currency as the EU. English may be a dominanting international language, but Iowans don't speak a different language from Floridians.

Just seems kind of moot to me to want to oversimplify the differences.

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>>132254322
That's about right though

>>132266295
hahahahahahahahahahaha

fucking hell, so brazil basically?

>>132256972
Connecticut must really be shit.

>>132254006
>Colorado
WE WUZ KANGS?

>>132266295
it's also the only place going to the movies, school, store, bed, work will get you shot

>>132266709
In what way? I have demonstrated enough information and current day facts to compare both unions. I'm not comparing apples and oranges. A Honda Civic is a union of different parts to form a car. A monster truck is a union o different parts to form a car. They are vastly different in how they work and how they're assembled but they are the same.

^ And to pre-emptively back that statement up, England and Iraq have a completely different structure but are countries.

>>132266897
The UK is an exception to this rule, we've always been but we're leaving. Compare it to the confederacy (Don't look too deep into this, this was just an example to show extreme differences).

>>132267464
Just to back myself up either further, we are called "member states", and in the US you are called "member states". We can compare them.

>>132266973
uh no

Americans will never accept this, and continue to pick and choose who they compare against and how.

Even when you show them hard evidence they just won't buy it because they're fucking stubborn and can't handle the thought of looking weak.

>>132267808
have you any other answer except the traditional delusion memes?

>muh guns
(nobody uses them to rebel)
>freedom of speech
(laughable these days)

>>132267904
I think it's more like we don't get what it is exactly that you're sperging out about.

>>132267904
Never accept what?

>>132254006
I knew my neighbors were dirty pakis and not mexicans...wait, what does that make me?

>>132266897
The hell we don't, Floridians don't speak heroin and cock. At least not to that degree.

>>132268300
It makes you culurally enriched^

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>>132254006
>tfw btfo by one single US States

>>132268538
Shut up or we'll ship down more NY Jews.

>>132268538
Fuck off Carlos. At least we're still white.

I am perfectly happy to compare:

person vs person
town vs town
city vs city
county vs county
state vs state

>>132268157
>>132268219
(Some) Americans, are very forward with the notions:
- USA is number one at everything, ever. This is stated by them even on TV.
- They will talk about relevance in the world, space exploration, military size etc.

Now when I ask "Ok it is more fairer to compare the USA to EU when trying to compare us, or maybe on a state by state basis" Do they throw a fit.

If you really want I could just turn around and say "Well we're the same one planet HOLY SHIT im fucking awesome." Don't compare un-proportional entities.

>>132268848
Do Americans even know the European Space Agency exists?

>>132268594
The faggiest state, too.

>>132268951
The who?

>>132268848
I forgot continents, this is another thing Americans will back out of if we compare.

>>132268951
Yes, why? NATO exists as well. It's like you're having a pissing contest by yourself or something.

>>132268665
Joke's on you, we got them to pay shit-tons of the money they Jewed you out of to voluntarily confine themselves to the Boca Raton ghetto.

>>132269061
Exactly, we have landed fucking robots on moving asteroids!

>>132269107
I am, this thread has been kind so far. I literally just want to be fairly represented when we're comparing each other but they don't want that. It's literally just to make them feel better about themselves.

I'm basically rambling about how most americans treat me when I tell them good things about England. Always gotta one up.

>>132269397
And because this frame of mind for Americans is so wide spread. Their is at least 100 million people so far up their own ass who just want to put you down.

Then they complain
>Why do so many foreigners want to come here, it's not like I've been hyping it up since birth.
>All these Europeans complain about us all the time, I better remind them we're better than them in every way.

>>132269397
>Exactly, we have landed fucking robots on moving asteroids!

Let me know when you land a man on the moon.
USA USA USA USA

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>>132263535
welcome aboard

>>132269868
Act like a whiny yuropoor, get treated like a whiny yuropoor m8.

>>132269929
how useful was that?

gain much?

>>132269868
Of course you're gonna look fucking amazing when you compare the USA to a single country in Europe.

>>132269929
FUCKING THIS!!!

>>132270046
If you didn't do this in the first place I wouldn't act like this.

None of them want to agree with me on things, just fucking discard everything I say because I'm seen as a lesser being with no fucking evidence.

>>132269929
>>132270046
And now i can say since you've called me a "yuropoor" and the moon landing. Lets compare states. INB4 NO, in which case BTFO!

>>132270261
>gain much
I don't know I'm not a rocket surgeon. It was pretty cool though.
I mean if you could resurrect a peasant from the middle ages and got him caught up with modern times, the moon landing would probably be one of the most impressive things for him.

>>132270325
Well, Texas is bigger than France and New York could go to battle with the City of London Corporation financially.

Happy now?

>>132269397
>>132269929
>>132270325
>Americans always have to one up
Kek you know us too well Nigel.

>>132270615
That's much better, could we do this on just our states? I am in Southern England.

>>132270662
It burns, it is degrading comparing things with you people. :(

>>132270615
Oh can you also tell every american ever this is how i'd like things done when we do comparisons.

>>132270615
Sorry I make a shit ton of replies, i'm rustled to hell.

Also if you don't want to that's fine, like i say just butthurt.

>>132270615
Oh oh oh and too reply again:

France is bigger than Texas in terms of economy.
England has a bigger military than New York.

>>132271708
I am Jack's complete lack of rustle. I don't perceive Europe to be a threat to my manhood or somehow clearly inferior to the US. There are things about the US I very much like (e.g. guns, free speech) and would not want to trade.

But uh, I guess that's about it.

>>132272128
NY doesn't have a military per se. There are state-level organizations (just like there are county-level, city-level and non-governmental organizations) with military-style capabilities. But the military is something specifically left to the federal government.

>>132267000

No, Connecticut is great! We can have Galiza now, I always get a boner when I see such a map...

>>132266045

You are demented. I truly hope you are an immigrant or an homossexual "human".

How can any Brit think like you? Forgive him Arthur Wellsely and Montgomery.

>>132272351
I wrote a massive response but 4chan thinks is spam.

You are right, military is not a fair comparison.

>>132273331
I'm just overly competitive.

>>132271330
Are you that guy with the "no bully on the 4th plz" thread?

Anyway, you're mostly right, and definitely would've been more so if you considered the earlier Union. Almost all of the thirteen states were settled mostly independently of one another and before the early 18th century they were really, really different in political function and culture. Our educational system tries to ignore this by linking us narrative-wise with the Pilgrims; which is really nonsensical even from a Massachusetts point of view. We generally ignore the settling of the mid-states and Virginia, the latter increasingly. It is a Union but of states with fewer cultural differences, next to no language differences, and had a smaller population and were pre-industrial at the time of Union. Had the EU existed since 1791 it would undoubtedly be very similar

>>132274972

That's in the past. There are only 2 "nations" in america:

The remains of the civlised people who found it, usually white and republican,

and the rest.

Although its clear there are many Nations in the making in North America, those 2 I mentioned previously are the only ones which are important politically.

>>132272351
Another thing, I'm happier comparing this way because I don't feel cheated.

But there is something what would make me happier though. For example, Ohio is a shit hole, fuck tons of armish and meth everywhere. it's the armpit state. As an English person when talking to these people I don't feel like I am some how superior to them, just treat them normally as human beings.

And I just want most Americans to give me the same curtsy?

>>132274972
No? I've been in /v/ most of today. But thanks for reminding me though, should probably shut up about this till the fifth.

Glad you understand what I'm on about though. Need to cut off response, 4chan filters why

>>132275664
Kind of painting Ohio with a broad brush there buddy. It's one of the more middle of the road states full of mainly totally ordinary people. I don't know what would give you that impression about it unless you only ever post in chest-beating Ohio threads.

>>132277514
Yeah i know, Ohio is fine really. My response actually came from a friend I'm talking to about this: Something something Michigan state could kick their ass something something.

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>>132253001
>burger meme