>TFW haven't seen any Venezuelan flags in a few days

They're enjoying utopia right now. Don't disturb them.

Estamos bien, ¿y tú, camarada?

>>132188420
fpbp. Damn, leaf, you actually did good for once.

>>132187801
They ate the internet

>>132187801
There to busy fighting each other to the death for the last twinkie.

>>132187801
only see venezuelan flags every few days anyway, they're probably fine

>>132187801
They probably ate the flags

>>132187801
lol who cares about a meme country

>>132187801
They hide their flags out of shame

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>>132187801
no, todos estan muerto

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>>132187801
They are doing fabulous--the government just announced it is raising the minimum wage for the 3rd time this year! Awesome!

http://www.click2houston.com/news/international/venezuela-lifts-minimum-wage-for-third-time-this-year

>>132192424
I've been sick all weekend. Haven't been happy, smiled, or laughed in days. This was the first time I've genuinely laughed in a week. Thank you

We are well enough to live for some months for now. It has been a hell in here this last month. Family, neighbors and myself haven't been able to bring food to our neighborhood and we are running out of food. Today Maduro raised minium wage 50 % everybody is outraged at him for doing so.

>>132187801
>>132194422
>>132196691
Can I get a quick rundown on what's going on down there?

>>132196691
Is McDonald's still open at least?

>>132196691
I hope you all die commie beaners

stay the fuck out of our countries you refugee fucks

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>>132191203
/thread

http://rabble.ca/blogs/bloggers/yves-englers-blog/2017/06/justin-trudeaus-foreign-policy-and-militarism-reminiscent

>The Harper regime repeatedly attacked Venezuela's elected government and in recent weeks the Liberals have picked up from where they left off. The Liberals have supported efforts to condemn the Nicolás Maduro government at the Organization of American States and promoted an international mediation designed to weaken Venezuela's leftist government

Leave their leftist socialist paradise alone. They're doing great. Don't look.

>>132196691
I will man up and allow the Venezuelan woman's to suck my diddley for nourishment

>>132187801
i don't see poos at all anymore

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>>132187801
>mfw go through some old memecaps the other night
>mfw "Venezuela is proof that (((Socialism))) works!"
>mfw dated 2013
>mfw

>>132197049
Don't be a bigot it wasn't real socialism

>>132196793
Yeah I'm gonna need a quick rundown

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>>132197028

>>132196691
Does he know $1,000,000 min wage was just a meme?

>>132196691
Please tell us how to buy starving Venezuelan women off your country. I can buy your little sisters/cousins. I will treat them well and let them visit their homeland once a year plus they won't ever starve. Please think about it, I have many bitcoins.

>>132196793
In 2015 people got sick of the government, so we decided to do something about it, opposition got majority in the parliament in elections. Maduro fucked us all worse and he is doing everything to change the constitution to get approval for economic changes in order to allow russians to exploit our oil fields, and also to get approval for new debt.


>>132196827
Some are still open in Caracas and others places. Where I live it is still open but food isn't being served, and when they do, it is not affordable for the majority of us.

columbia annexed them. viva grand columbia

>>132196691

Good luck m8. Take care of yourself and your family.

>>132196691
How far are you guys from a 'maximum wage'?

>>132197206
poo, what are some actual nice places in India to go and visit?

>>132197133
POO

>>132197366
>Maduro fucked us all worse and he is doing everything to change the constitution to get approval for economic changes in order to allow russians to exploit our oil fields, and also to get approval for new debt.
What exactly is going on hermano?

>>132187801
Their monthly internet ration ran out

>>132197490
Goa during the winter, kodaikanal during the monsoon, Parvati Valley during the summer.

But if you wanna experience Indian history and shit then rajasthan, Delhi and agra

>>132197490
Not the Designated Shitting Street

>>132197490

Brampton, Surrey, Dearborn

Mainland indias a shitheap. they have little colonies all over the world if you want some shitty food and bad smells to entertain your pig bitch gf

>>132197708
I heard Manchester or brixton have authentic indian cuisine and culture to enjoy

not a white man in sight!

>>132197708
He can visit Toronto if he wants to visit a colony

>>132197405
>plastic asses for everyone!

>>132191203

That's why you never see an Ethiopian flag

>>132196691
Hope u are going to be okay, Maduro needs to fuck off asap, but it is probably going to get a lot worse before he does that.

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>>132191203
underrated

>>132197546
What exactly do you want to know?

>>132198015
Thank you bro. We are also expecting things to get worse. That's what people is fearing, we actually don't know how worse things will going to be, if we will actually going to die soon during a raid after protesting,or just from starvation and preventable diseases.

Please, don't come to Spain, I only ask you that. There are already way too many of you indians in Madrid

>>132198091
>underrated
>Under
>ate
Sounds about right

>>132198397
Don't the protestor have a social media platform that /pol can work with I am sure quit a few anons won't miss the opportunity to shit on socialism

>>132198418
Many who fled to Spain were actually venezuelan-spanish people. Don't worry. The government just manage to decrease passport issuance so we can't flee fast enough, we will die by then if nothing changes

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>>132198482

>>132196691
Good luck anon, let's hope Maduro pays for what he did to your country.

>>132187801
Not dead yet, mate. Tomorrow i'll be heading to some protest, i promised to other anons to film a bit and post here on /pol. But my phone charger died today, what a coincidence kek

>>132198567
We use Twitter mostly, however it is only available for 60 % of the population.It is the only social media plataform where we can massively engage with others in the country efficiently while we run the risk to be jailed for using it.
We are also expecting a internet blockade from the government, like three days ago internet connection went out for three hours, when the helicopter attack happened.

>>132198820
obrigado

How much public support do the commies still have? Is anyone still buying the eternal revolution propaganda bs or are people mostly waking up?

>>132197366
Is he trying to pull off what Chinese communists did?

>>132199126
>>132199238
Shit guys stay safe if you can

on another note if only Venezuela had a Pinochet

>>132199518
Maduro support is estimate in 20 %. His supporters are actually militaries, public workers and people receiving government aid. Of course, there are uneducated people who only support Maduro because they are adoctrinated.

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>>132187801
we warned you about communism, bro.

>>132199695
>>132199812
Nice. Good luck, bros.

>>132199751
Perhaps, this time the dictatorship have support coming from China and Russia, opposition currently isn't doing it well in the international community having lost several attempts to alienate the dictatorship from their regional supporters.
Government have blocked foreign aid, and all medium to bring food and medicines by non government third parties.

>>132199812
RURAL
AND
SUBURBAN
RETARDS

>>132200292
bro, i feel for you. i absolutely mus tknow though, what is the toilet paper situation? what do you use, or not use? i dont believe 100% of the population has a bidet

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>year round growing season
>not enough food
>mfw

How? Why don't you just use every available space to grow food?

>>132200540
Tell that to the commies that went full Mugabe taking almost all the soil then not knowing how the fuck grow food and being corrupt as hell. And most venezuelans live on the metropolitan areas (more than 80%) so no patios to grow tomates hermano

>>132200510
We take a shower after going to the bathroom if there are not toilet paper or napkins. We don't buy toilet paper since three weeks ago in my house where 5 lives, there is not toilet paper anywhere in my city.

>>132199959
thank you bro

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>>132188420
>flag
>fpbp

Well fuck my ass and call me a little twink faggot.

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>>132200883
>>132200884

>spics starving to death
>socialism fails once again

Why don't I feel /comfy/?

>>132201012
>>132201012
Little twinkle faggot.

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>>132201289
GTFO you fucking kike. These retarded monkey people suffer because of your shenanigans.

>>132201214
>Venezuelans
>Spics

I thought spics were just the mexicans, Latin-america is far greater than just mexico, is like saying Europe is just Italy

>>132200883
>>132201214
It was mostly that they wanted us to starve and not them not knowing how to grow food, they know how to but they don't care. We were productive enough to fed nearly 90 % of the venezuelans decades ago before the chavism started this systematic destruction. We weren't always like this and we don't deserve this, that's why people is dare to die during protests, they don't care because they have nothing else to lose, government has taken everything from us.

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>>132197049
If that's true, consider yourself blessed

>>132197049
Post those anon

>>132201644
How do you spend your days Anon?

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>>132201637
>>132201644
Ok i'll give you guys the benefit of the doubt and assume you're spanish rape babies. In which case, if you eliminate pic related types we might be inclined to help you.

>>132201637
Spics is the general offensive shorthand for Hispanics. Say that to any Hispanic's face in America and they will interpret it as an attemoted insult.

"Wetback" and "beaner" are more Mexican-specific slurs.

>>132200884

wow this is for real. no one can articulate such dispair and poor english in a post in order to troll us

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>>132201611
>A monkey calling other monkeys
Shove that dildo up your ass, you seem upset.

>>132202506
better stop drinking phalentinian blood kike, why not shoot yourself? you have plenty of ammo and guns on that pseudo-country of yours

>>132201990
Most venezuelans are spanish mixed rape babies, and the withes mostly actual spanish criollo descendants, actual native americans are as rare as native americans in the US territory. So if you guys are willing to help there could be some "casualities" with them :^)

>>132202689
>you have plenty of ammo and guns on that pseudo-country of yours
It's called a "colony," anon. We wouldn't grant actual statehood to kikes any sooner than we would to Puerto Ricans.

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>>132201289
kek

>>132201913
I usually wake up at 7 am to start working in my father's workshop at 8. I eat when I just can't take the stomach ache anymore, finish work at 6pm, take a shower and eat lunch before using the pc to see what has been happening in the country during the day and go to sleep before I become hungry again. Sometimes when there are protests near my house i just leave the work to join the resistence, avoiding paramilitaries to get in the neighborhood using barricades to stop them to do so, looking for materials to construct these and take the wounded to hospital or anywhere where they can get medical attention.

Personally, everyday is worse, being sure tomorrow will be worse while not knowing how much worse it will be, hoping the best, doing what it takes to survive efficiently

>>132202984
Who do you blame? The ideology of communism? The Jews for inventing it? The individuals in power? The rural and suburban retards who supported it? Who's fault is all of this?

>>132197366
Ahhhhhhh. I see. So Russian wants to help your government develop its oil fields and America is having none of that. I see.

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>>132202806
So it's settled. Enslave the mestizos

Gas >>132202506

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>>132202689
Would be the biggest favor he could do for himself. Much more peaceful than what our Shia allies have in store for him

>>132202984
Man I cant believe it got this bad. My family moved out to Miami around 2008 when it got real bad. I'm not even in the place to even begin understanding the struggle there, since my dad works closely with PDVSA. Espero que todo este bien amigo.

>>132187801
Kinda

>>132190436
>Asks about Venezuelan's
>Communist answers

>>132197994

I thought mussolini exterminated all those african cockroaches.

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>>132203451
>My family moved out to Miami around 2008 when it got real bad

>>132202837
by it's size and constant training, looks like the largest military base too

>>132202984
The individuals in power. Communist can exist but we just need to fight it properly.

>>132203167
Not necessarily, Maduro had the opportunity to change the hydrocarbons law back in 2015 when they had the parliament majority required to do so, allowing russians to exploit all the oil fields just like they are already doing with gas, venezuelans always asked for oil fields to be exploited but nobody really wanted to invest in here after government expropriations of several oil companies and bad incentives to do so. Government now wants to give up everything to the russians, allowing them to put the conditions on how these oil agreement will be done. That's totally bad for all of us knowing that we will lost our sovereignity upon strategical commodities, and pretty much the government will allow russians military bases near the oil fields soon. We are protesting against the dictatorship Maduro's resign, elections and humanitarian help.

>>132203451
Your dad works for PDVSA affiliate Citgo?

>>132202929
legit the scariest photo I've seen
delet

>>132202441
Exactly.
This is the only place I see anyone really talking about it, too. I have no idea what I would do if I were Venezuelan anon. I do know how to grow stuff, doing it right now, and have seeds etc. but you would need massive community cooperation to survive....things would go tribal here, fast. I think my neighborhood would all help each other, but in many places it would be a bloodbath.

It makes me sick that the rest of the world doesn't appear to be doing shit about this.

>>132203167
They're actually getting the shit fo pennies (literally in some cases) with almost no benefit to us. They gave us (gov) millitary equipment in exchange..... That they now may use to kill us if the riots get to wild (Plan Avila) totally worth it right? kek

>>132187801
They're all flying commie flags or ancap flags now. The place is that big of a shithole.

>>132202984
Do you have guns and ammo? Can you hunt, if you can get outside the city into wilder areas? It sounds as if you are going to have to do that soon if you want to survive. I'm sure some people are already trapping city vermin, rats etc., or they will be soon. If I were you I'd use the web to research every aspect of survivalism that might conceivably help you, if you haven't already. I'm so sorry, anon. I hope you can get out, if all else fails.

>>132203789
>Italy
>Being good at anything militarily

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>>132203167

No moron. Russia is going to fuck them. Before Chavez, and later Maduro, transformed the country into a Socialist paradise, several multinational petroleum corporations were in Venezuela. Big ones, Shell, EXON, PB. Chavez nationalized the industry and booted everyone. (My family lived there at the time and we fled when a strong anti-American sentiment started being pushed by the govt.) Since that time Venezuelas output has dropped almost every year.

Now the lack exploration and development has caught up to them and they need help from somewhere and coming to a fair deal with those evil Capitalists just wont do, not in a Socialist paradise, so Russia is the only game left in town after the Chinese fucked them 3 or 4 years ago.

>>132204741
Hunting isn't really a thing in here, I don't know anyone with weapons and I don't have either. Food, however, can be bought at the black market if there is some, most of the food that is sent to Venezuela is stolen by militaries and sold in the black market at high prices precissely to make it impossible for the majority of us to buy it. We fucking hate militaries

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>>132205572
Stay safe mate and prepare yourself for internet outage like people did in Arabian spring.

Hehe would be funny if there was a way to support you guys with money or shit that would help, so /pol/ could be active in a rebellion and support troops.

>>132205572
>Hunting isn't really a thing in here
do you have a forest/jungle/nature near you? do animals live there? then you can hunt

i find it laughable that the people that live on a continent covered by forests, a massive ecosystem right next to you SOMEHOW have problems going in and finding food
>but we don't know how?
bitch cave men figured this shit out, I swear the problem here is you live in cities so you EXPECT food to appear like it does in an urban center - in a store

>>132187801
They are selling candies inside our public transport.

>>132205992
There was another thread where anons were saying that if we post (because i was in that thread) a Ven news thread so they get a better idea they may help with funding to an anti-commie militia thing through bitcoin n' stuff. I'm supposed to film today a bit in a protest so they can see a film from an actual /pol anon but my phone charger died a few hours ago kek

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>>132197366
really nice socialist country you have over there with the mcdonalds

>>132205992
People used to get support from outside with supplies, but then it was banned to send masks, helmets and other supplies into the country. We need then to buy it in here at higher prices, the thing is we lack of money and nobody has showed up willing to send money to people inside, only from /pol/ and isn't really a thing yet.
Money will do a difference, of course, but most we need support from outside spreading information and denouncing what is happening in here before we die

>>132206053
We expect to buy it when it comes, or go outside and smuggling it into the country. Hunting would be only if you are being chased when distribution become a problem.

>>132207244
Socialist or not, we need to fight it. I've never said it was socialist but having a McDonald don't make a country capitalist.

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>>132207376
>>132207563

Guessing there's not a whole lot of regional support/aid from your neighbors like Columbia or Brazil?

>>132188420
NO NO NO goy, that's not real communism

>>132208862
Only diplomatic support. Both Brazil and Colombia are already being affected by what is occuring in here and they are actually being benefited from this due venezuelan capitals goes to both countries and skilled labor they get from venezuelans leaving from here to Colombia mostly.

>>132202984
My sympathies bro.

>>132208862
Like Colombia would help after Venezuela has been funding FARC for decades. My friend has family in Colombia and they said they would burn their toilet paper and food before they send it to Venezuela. I know that sounds cruel but they see the people there as having enabled the support of FARC for all these years. It is a cruel debt that must be paid now. Not my opinion, just relaying. Prayers to all affected.

>>132210368
It is not the venezuelans who supported the FARC but Chavez&co. Several times it was denounced by opposition that the government was funding the FARC and they condemned it, so it is true that we don't hate right wing colombians, we support them, as colombians would likely support us if needed. In Venezuela there used to be 4 million of colombians living in here, we accepted colombians refugees back in 80s and 90s when chavismo didn't exist.

>>132187801
Some wacky shit happend with satelites (we don't know exactly what happend up there) that caused 2/3 of south america to be without power

>>132204544
Oil is worth like nothing right now. You are asking the Russians to fix your oil infrastructure and run it. Well of course you are only going to get pennies on the dollar.

>>132210798
By supporting Chavez they see you as having supported FARC by proxy. There is endless war and murder of brown people in the Middle East because a majority of Americans support that. Even with the media shilling for demilitarization and pascivism the killing continues because more voters than not want it to. Same could be said for Chavez and FARC.

reminder that venezuela used to be among the top countries regarding living standards in the previous century, the only difference being absence of communism

>>132211250
Chavez also distanced American ties also.

>>132210989
They've been doing that even before the drop of prices anon, and again, just fo weapons and equipment that they may be using against us in a month, and now for money that obviously will be invested on some stupid populist thing, so, it's a shitty deal, PDVSA was a lot better before the fired 15.000 skilled workers and hired monkeys because of muh revolution. No fixing would be necessary. "We" aren't asking for that, but i get what you meant

>>132211735
I really don't even understand what your country wants. Are you going full capitalism or just repeating an endless socialists joke?

No, I'm pretty bad, two friend from my party arrested, thinking on exile 'cause i'm fearing for my mom's life and bro's life. Don't know what to do, have no money, everything is crumbling at a fast pace, tomorrow there is a protest here in my town. Hoping to not get killed or shot, but anyway that's life.

one week ago paramilatires groups tried to break into my neighborhood (gated community, not a luxury thing here, every middle class neighborhood is closed) they almost fucked the gates and fences but a guy living here pull out a shotgun and started to shot, so they left.

And one day after, a fucking helicopter was tracking the site during 1 hour blatatly and mocking at us from above. This is a hellhole /pol/ for sure, if I eventually leve I don't know where to go

>>132211937
is there even a place in SA that isn't commie?

>>132211937
sorry for typos, writing from my mom's phone is really tiny.

>>132198676

where there's a will there's a way. godspeed anon

>>132211917
That's the thing mate, that you actually don't understand the scenario. Under this goverment literally any money they get is literally getting us closer to be completly helpless against them because they'll get more and more money and will spend enough to isolate us even more, and not being a leftard with my other post, i'm going that way because of what i just said above

>>132198418
Don't understand you, you guys came during 50's, 60's and 70's and you just say: ''hey dont come here'' you guys got in like rats here. More than 1 million, why are you so hypocrite?

>>132211917
>>132212366
>Aka looking for more money so they can get the socialism joke a few more steps

>>132211937
Have you considered killing the people responsible for this mess?

>>132211250
That is not how war works.
Having someone residing in enemy territory does not necessarily means it is an enemy.

>>132211917
We want to get rid of the dictatorship, so we can have elections and let the people decide what the fuck they want. Obiously, it won't be any marxian ideology, but probably neoliberalism. That is the only way the country could solve its problems.

>>132212269
Thank you anon

>>132196691
I would glady marry a Venezuelan woman to get her out of that hellhole.

>>132187801
But seriously, who cares?

>>132203605
I'm glad you got the joke too Ribbentrop.

>>132197630
So I want to sell everything and go to Nepal and just be there until I die of starvations, cold, heat, animals, subhumans I dont care.

What is the best way to get to Nepal through India using the train or something. I wanna go high up into the mountains of Nepal. To the valley of the devil(I think thats what it was called)


Can you help?

>>132212873
Why do you want to die my man?

>>132212984
Well "want to" might be the wrong way of putting it.
Im just sick of everything. the joy is gone, the interest is gone, the drive is gone. Im just a husk of what I was when I was a young lad. something took out my spirit and shit on it somewhere in my puberty years.

I need to do something and I need to change shit. Doesnt matter if I die in the process i have to try.

>>132200292
>>132199751
It sounds more like what Castro did.

>>132213128
You can volunteer to fight in syria. Or join a pmc in africa.
Cargo container ships need crewmen if you want solitude.
Joining the military is also possible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1rZAFluGZI

chronic flatulence. this is real people, defcon one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eC_6QzvLrE

>>132213250
Joining the military with 29 is not possible. Joining PMC isnt an option when youre not trained and have like 10 years experience as special ops of some sort.
Volunteer to fight for what? So that old men can get more powerful and richer? Its an overused quote but "every war is a bankers war" If you think anyone is fighting for freedom in Syria you are mistaken. All Assad is doing is protect his power. Which is right and he should do it.
But this is no fight of mine.

>>132205215
>>132212458
yep if they switched to a free market system and let the big multinational oil companies back in their situation would improve quickly

but le multinational corporations are the enemy of socialism and the people so the place turns into a hellhole with the only people living comfortably are the ones at the top of the government

leftists are so assbackwards and retarded

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>>132187801
>Venezuelan thread
>Not a single image from Venezuelans showing empty fridge and poverty everywhere

Any before/after pics of weight loss?

also, where's that starving anon who had a dog?

>>132213417
dude, marines even start at 35

>>132211937
Stay inside and stay safe my man

>>132211371
it truly is the great destroyer. it is probably the theoretical Great Filter that destroys advanced life before it can become space faring.

>>132213765
Well does my flag look like my first name is Cleetus?

And no Im not qualified to join the Bundeswehr, neither would I ever do that. Thats not a german army thats an american proxy army for now and soon to be EU globalist army.

>>132187801
too busy trying to find food

>>132205572
>most of the food that is sent to Venezuela is stolen by militaries and sold in the black market at high prices precissely to make it impossible for the majority of us to buy it. We fucking hate militaries

this is some mad max type shit. take note, anons

this is what human nature resorts to in desperation

>>132210989

chavez confiscated the oil. it was already being developed, you don't know what you're talking about

ok alex, send the bonemeal, it's time for these venusalians to bulk up.

It's probably more cost effective to eat the bolivars rather than purchase foods, just ask for singles next time you get paid and have a months worth of bolivar soup.

>>132213981
And they make a huge profit. Then they can sold to Colombian smugglers and make more profit. Shit is insane here

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>>132198397
>wrenching control of oil fields from western powers and allowing a vacuum for Eastern powers to take advantage of.
I'd like to know why Maduro is basically kicking off a war by following the plot of Mercenaries 2, play by play.

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>>132212417
>One million japs in Venezuela.
WAT

>>132214112
maximum political crisis gains!

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>>132211937
do you need a hand, if I help you overthrow: will you give me land to cultivate crops that are of the illicit substance?

the helicopter attack was probably staged

http://www.torontosun.com/2017/07/02/one-mans-bizarre-attack-on-the-venezuela-government-is-reverberating-in-caracas

>>132187801

> Venezuela
> Alright

Pick neither

>>132214510
the guy was saying that he's from spain, read sucker

Why do you think it will be better without Maduro? You expect that oil price suddenly would raise and food magically appear in the shops?

>>132214948

because maduro is a stupid, corrupt fuck

>>132214948
A wild putin shill has appeared. Can you please go back to the 3rd world shithole from where came from?

>>132215023
No doubt he is, but why do you think that without him things will be better? What makes yo think so? I for one would expect that not much would change for the better until price of oil is that low, and the people also would lose some things which they are consider as normal now. They'll just become Guatemala or whatnot.

>>132215253
Calm down. I asked the question - why do you think things will change to the better? Are there numbers?

>>132215297
I will give you a hint, because i see you're too stupid to even grasp this:

Prices system

>>132215254
At least Guatemala has food and toilet paper.

>>132215362
You think prices will drop once the militias take full control of the borders and customs becomes two guys and a dog?

>>132215362
K, so let's imagine they cancel fixed prices. What people would do if they don't have enough income? I can tell you - most will have to live off bread as they do now.
The problem is not with distribution - the problem is that the country produces not enough, and can't buy more as prices for it's main export are low. You can't feed everyone just by changing distribution model when there's not enough of material things. You will have to redistribute existing resources to buying food. And the question stays - which of the things which are normal for you now ahould be sacrificed?

>>132214795
My bad. It's 11:05am here and I'm still a little drunk from last night.

>>132215706
>country that intentionally starved millions of its people to death to pay for its industrialization in the 30s
>caring about the plight of Venezuelans
Just accept it, Putinbot. You're shilling because Gazprom will be able to buy up all of the oil at pennies if they're starving to death.

>>132215706
Listen to the ex-Soviet, people. He fuckin knows what he's talking about.

>>132215886
Not even gazprom would be so stupid. The venez oil isn't profitable at all in the current market. Especially with how shit their refineries are.
You'd have to invest billions for a potential minimal payout some years from now. And nobody is gonna risk that when the new government is just gonna take it back when they feel like it.

>>132215706
How can producers know how much they need to produce without prices conveying that information slav?

>>132215893
Yep I know. I can even tell you the most probable way which will be used to fix it if they let the prices loose. You'll get hyperinflation. It will lead to the total impoverishment of the people, destruction of infrastructure which you now consider as a given thing, raise of crime. In 15 years things will stabilise on Guatemala level, but unlike in Ru (we are just too big, more or less self-sufficient and were lucky with prices and demand for oil and gas) you will not slowly return to normal, you'll stay at the bottom with nonexistent medicine, powerty and living on gibs, like it happens in ex-USSR countries.
The problem is not with distribution. You cannot distribute what you have not, you are not Jesus Christ. The loosing of prices can be considered only a method to improve productivity and diversification of economy. And if there are no numbers and programas of remaking economy with free prices you should expect that things will change only to the worse.

>>132216351
Well, when you have shortages of food it is obvious for everyone that they produce not enough. So if they don't produce more it means they can't produce more.

>>132213849
Get a GreenCard, move to US, join the army or better engineer corps, you'll get a lot of skills there and they'll help you with citizenship

I believe you have to be in the army for 3 years or something and you'll become a US citizen automatically

After that you can enjoy the rest of your life on a comfy ranch in Texas with your 20 guns and qt southern wife man there's so much to life it's just not worth it to end it

>>132196691
>raised minium wage 50 %
The fucking delusion man

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>>132216437
Based Russian desu.
So what, if any, solution could be used on Venezuela to help them out of the position their in at the moment?
I understand their government has always heavily subsidised their own oil which in hindsight was a terrible idea.
I think they'll need to bite the bullet and raise their own domestic oil taxes. It should not cost less to fill a car in Venezuela than it costs to buy bread in Ireland. And that was before they collapsed...

so ... this is the power ... of socialism

makes sense why Venezuela's average IQ is on the low 80s

>>132198397
Why not just shoot your politicians?

>>132217079
I don't know. They need a detailed plan with numbers, milestones and stuff. It also might be that it is already not possible to fix things without either getting to the level of Guatemala or without multiyear external intevention such as Marshall's plan or the thing which they do in EU with Poland and other eastern countries.
I'm just saying they shouldn't expect that the things will become better as soon as they get free prices.

>>132217289

because. like any State, the army is against the people

they also took the population's guns some time ago too, obviously

God I'm glad I live in a first world country

Stay strong, Venezuelans

>>132215254

better leader = better times

>>132216942
You do realise its extremly hard to get a greencard right?
Theres a reasons theres shit like a greencard lottery.

>>132202984
Fucking hell... So sorry to hear bro know it isn't worth shit from an insignificant internet randomer but I hope you kill the shit out of your scumbag leaders and things improve asap

>>132216437

you may be right, but it is the only way out of the mess, except for war and then you get that and worse

corrupt fixed system diminishes will to produce in private sector; remove those barriers, and free market will resume working, more or less

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>>132217470

>police state
>second largest tax burden after belgium
>head of the european caliphate

kek

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>>132204090
Communists can't exist. No one can hold the power and not be corrupted.

>>132217644

/pol/ memes aside, life in Germany is very sheltered and comfortable

No one here knows the hardship the Venezuelans are going through right now ...

>>132217489
It's not that hard, GreenCard lottery is for subhumans. As a German you can get a job, H1B visa and join the GreenCard program relatively easily

Might take some time but it's definitely worth it

The point of joining the army is that the regular citizenship program takes 5 years whereas as a member of the army you'll get the accellerated program that only takes 10 months

http://help.germany-usa.com/article/100-usa-work-visa-green-card-germany-usa-career-center-faq#question_49
http://work.chron.com/join-us-army-not-us-citizen-11930.html

>>132217837
Highly educated first worlders have some chances, probably

But what about starving Venezuelans?

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>>132217884
>But what about starving Venezuelans?
pic related

>>132217720

With Venezuela as standard even Brazil is a nice country to live.You've to compare yourself with switzerland.

>>132217884
"hello there fellow stalker"

>>132187801

Venezuelan camwhores are doing so good you would not believe it.

Roasties with internet connections are now the high level class in venezuela

>>132218041
I bet there are a lot of qts who need a hwhite knight who takes them to his castle and sticks his sword into their vaginas if you know what I mean

>>132218041
Sources links etc?

>>132217421
Not in the USA

>>132218023

Life in Switzerland isn't very different from life in Bavaria or Baden-Württemberg ... They have two times our net salary and two times our costs. Scenery is also the same.

Where are the hotspots at the Moment?
Where happens the most shit?
In the capitol or also in smaller villages around?

>>132218174
>>132218176

Just check camwhore sites, many venezuelan qts on those now, even the lowest tips are a lot of money on venezuelan currency, since its dollars.

The ones that cant figure out the interwebs go to Colombia, they will be giving them work visas so they can perform their trade http://www.noticiasrcn.com/nacional-pais/venezolanas-dedicadas-prostitucion-colombia-recibirian-visa-trabajo

>>132218181

Even if their costs are higher, they still have double your money on THEIR control.Meanwhile you're mantaning millions-of-euros-a-week hotels for bearded refugee children with yours.

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>>132188420
topkek

>>132218937
That's true, also swiss people trick the system by buying groceries in the surrounding countries because it's much cheaper there

I hope American Bros are paying attention here.
Don't let them take the guns.
If Venezuela wasn't noguns, things would be very different there.

What do the Venezuelans here think about the guys who did the helicopter attack and released the statement? Do you support them?

>>132218180

>Not in the USA

Seriously? all the american wars since 9/11
added 4.8 trillions of dollars to your debt and the you, the average citzen, not only got literally nothing from these, but your future children will be born already "owning" the federal govt up to 40k USD.

All of that without even mentioning the millions of civilians you killed and the americans soldiers who died for literally nothing.

>>132219255

I've got to stop saying "literally".This is a curse.

>>132219255
the army can't be used against the people in the us is all I'm saying . patriotism is to big in my country.

>>132187801
Here in Spain we have a big fucking stupid discussion about venezuela. A communist party called "PODEMOS" funded by (((SOROS))) and MADURO, make people believe that the situation in Venezuela isn´t as bad as in Spain. It worked, and if someone talks truth about the situation in venezuela, he gets called a fascist nationalist blah blah blah franquist bla blah blah ultra right wing idiot blah blah blah" insert 10 long pages about the old spanish republic" etc. Not only irl but on the internet too.
Feels bad man

>>132197133
A FUCKING WAGON WHEEL

>>132199126
Godspeed anon, stay safe

>>132198676
Dude, is there anything I can do to help? I can send you some shekels for food

>>132219676

It is being used against you, but in the most coward way.

please watch this if you have the time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uA88OFEPoC0

>>132212873
uh...why don't you go directly? they have international airport

>>132187801

Chaos and revolution followed by societal collapse is their normal state.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdnRp3Chb6c

why won't europe get take their fair share of refugees?

let's make this the best political upheaval ever!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABg0c_E7OOI

>>132200884
Why don't you just use your hand like Indians?

>>132198676
Why don't you just escape into the Amazon or some shit?

>>132219770
SPAIN YES

>>132219770
>Franquist
>insult
Own it man, Spain would've gone to shit if the Anarchists won the guerra civil

>>132197133
A FUCKING PUCKERED ANUS

>>132196691
I hope that fucking lula molusco doesn't win in 2018 or we're all fucked here. Good luck amigo

>>132222810
Yeah i mean, they use franquist as an insult, which is not.

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>>132219995
They can barely even exchange money due to hyperinflation. Guns and ammo are more useful in a commie country. If you can't afford a gunship that is.

>>132212604
>neoliberalism
I got a much better idea for what venuzuela can turn itself into, flag related plus plus 90 IQ eugenic-nationalism.

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>>132223254
Call them marxists then and push back with memes and truth

>>132196691
sounds like any other communist utopia

>>132197312
My friend. Are you aware you live in Argentina?

>>132212873
get train from Dehli to Varenassi.
Bus from Varanassi To Kathmandu.
from Kathmandu take bus to Pokhara.
I would live there.

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>>132223591
I´ve seen comments of anarchist that said, they rather want be ruled by zionists than any other right wing or center party in a video anout Soros in Spain.

PODEMOS has a youtube channel if someone is interested. They have tons of likes and support, it doesn´t even suprise me at this point but still makes me angry, that people want to be ruled by Soro´s peons

>>132202837
You called?

>>132224185
Oh dude, serious question, can I immigrate to your country and fuck 12yo girls? Is it possible?

>>132224450
Never change /pol/, never change

>>132207244

Step into the heli and drown in the fucking sea,you piece of shit.

>>132202837

Eyyyyyy our people are lazy and feed off welfare, give us statehood burger!

>>132212060

Argentina,Uruguay and Chile are mostly free from disgusting commies.

>>132224450
Not legally. You might as well fuck children where you live.
If you can pass for Arab try your luck on the UK. They let you do anything to children there.

>>132203167
Nah. Maduro will sell Venezuela´s resources to keep the lie alive. It wont be sold at market price, it will be a scam, but he is in hurry for money cause socialism, surprise, doesn´t work.
So, he´ll kill Venezuela in the long therm to save his ass in the short therm.

>>132196691
>Behold communism at work
Seriously though it's about time you people killed your government officials

>>132207244
You really are delusional.

>>132224761
>gibsmedat
Sounds about right my fellow Puerto nigger.

>>132197206
>>132197133
>Look guys he took off his meme flag

>>132225041
Wait why? Isn't it the age of consent in Argentina?

>>132225237
No. Its more complicated than that.

>>132224761
Fuck it welcome to America your new state name shall be New Porta Rico because fucking simple

>>132225167
Give us Statehood or we'll become the next Cuba.....or the Next Haiti.

>>132197049
Dump'em

>>132225375
Come on, share your KNOWLEDGE.

>>132225392
I'll be honored to be called New Porta Rican.

>>132197708
>>132197856
Accurate

>>132225534
Under 13 you go straight to jail.
Under 16 you go to jail if anyone accuses you of taking avantage of the minor's sexual immaturity (either due to age difference, a position of authority, etc.)

>>132225534

In the areas around the Amazon jungle, the degenerate natives sell their daughters' virginity for like 500BRL (that's ~ 166 USD).You can try your luck there.

>>132225547
Welcome to America proper our 51st state

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>>132202984
>I eat when I just can't take the stomach ache anymore

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>>132216942
Can I come to the USA with Work & Travel student visa and then apply for the army and try get a USA citizenship? Thats what I am thinking doing next year lol.

>>132188420
lmao fpbp

>>132226245
I don't think so man, you'd need a greencard first to join the army and I'm not sure whether you can get a greencard with work and travel visa, I think you'd have to apply for H1B and for that you'd need a serious job

>>132225835
ONLY WHITE QT'S SORRY, MY MAN.

>>132225792
>Under 16 you go to jail if anyone accuses you of taking avantage of the minor's sexual immaturity (either due to age difference, a position of authority, etc.)

That's a very fucking vague definition. Fuck, I thought I'd find heaven in Argentina. Oh, well. No 3d lolis for me. Nothing to lose.

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>>132187801
>>TFW haven't seen any Venezuelan flags in a few days
>Are you guys alright?!?
yep they're fucked but alright by the socialist standars at this moment.
You don't see them so often because of the limitations of their ISP, so the only ones you see here are the rich bitches with private ISP or with a pass.
If you wanna see what's news in their socialist dystopian shithole go to link related and search for: "protesta" "sucesos" "trancazo". Or just lurk and see it with your own eyes

>>132187801
no they are all dead. hillary decided it was to much of a problem for western liberal to deal with the fact their economic policies are cancer to their own economies so 100% of venezuelans got killed in a massive tactical strike using chemical weapons bought from cia backed forces in syria which had seized chemical weapons from syrias government in the isis controlled city.... because they are isis

>>132218937

As I said, they get twice the salary and also pay twice the price. Don't see the difference. I've been to Switzerland, the German part feels just like a better part of Germany.

Yes, hello, I'm looking to be the 51st state. : )

>>132226768

you don't understad the difference between having double prices and giving half of your income to the govt? they can DIRECT their usage to whatever THEY want, not what Angela Merkel wants.

>>132226571

>ONLY WHITE QT'S SORRY, MY MAN.

go to Ukraine then

>>132227135
No, bois from Azov will execute me.

Let me feed off your hard work americunts

>>132191203
Lel

>>132227243

the farmers sell their daughters willingly, you just gotta have the cash

>>132207376
What's the smuggling scene like? How locked down are borders and coasts?

>>132207244
You got berniedubs.

Hopefully Karla Lopez or Nany Tovar is doing well. But I think she left a couple years ago.

>>132196793
>>132197171
Communism happened, and now there is no more food and violence in the streets. We get to see what our parents saw last century a few more times apparently.

Best of luck my venezuelan brothers

>>132205572
>Hunting isn't really a thing here
Your entire country should die, just because you would rather use a shitty black market than to hunt for food. You don't need a gun to hunt, make a fucking spear.

Why is there nothing about this in our media? I feel with you and hope you are alright

>>132228597

because that's norway's fate

>>132228904
When we have succed up the last drop of oil, yes. It would be better if we ran our economy as if we didn't have it at all.

>>132187801
We cool nigga

>>132207244
It's a socialist McDonalds, they never have any food in it.

>>132229383

they ate the establishment.

No McDonalds.

>>132229140

that's not the worst part, you northern-europeans can definitely recover the economy after the oil loses relevance.The things is: what if your government gives into the native suicide agenda and starts importing welfare dependent people on mass?

Kinda feel bad for them. Fuck comies.

>>132229631
We have Sylvi Listhaug as immigration minister, she does a relatively good job. But that might not last after this years election

>>132229814
Yeah no matter what ideology a government has, you can't help but feel bad for the civilians. I'm gonna feel bad about this all day

>>132220055
>>132219995
man, the patriotism of burgers really fucks with their perception of things

>>132228118
or dont retard

they would make everyone go extinct you fucking mong

>>132230064

It's a good thing if used the right way.The most patriotic people are generally the ones who also are defenders of state sovereignty and the constitution.

>>132229159
How can we send food and supplies to you?

>>132230301

They've to rely on smugglers.Maduro even denied a donation of medications from Brazil.

>>132230301
send us some tanks nigga

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>>132187801
Dear burger, as I write this, I am very sad. Our government has been overthrown...AND REPLACED BY END STAGE SOCIALISM. ALL HAIL SOCIALISM AND ITS GLORIOUS TOILET PAPER!! Sincerely, LITTLE VENEZUELAN.

>>132219995
>>132223331
I've read somewhere that bitcoin popularity rose sharply in the last year because it's more reliable than venezuelan currency in terms of inflation.

Probably the easiest for you to give it to him too

>>132220158
Planes aren't fucking bad ass