Why are western men playing video games all day instead of establishing

Because they are kids of single moms.

>>132159464
because you can survive, live normaly meawhile killing your time with computahh gaymes

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>>132159464
There's no hope

It's cheaper and less harmful than drugs

>>132159464
>establishing a family
>putting your finances and livelihood in the hands of a woman who can leave at any moment, ruin your finances, force you out of your home and deny access to your children with full government backing

Marriage and Family is just a shit deal for men at the moment which of course is what (((they))) want because low birthrates/families is just the perfect excuse to import more shitskins to western nations

And leading on from this - if a family/kids is a shit deal, why bother establishing a career and the stresses that come with it when you can comfortably live independently off some middling job with low responsibilities?

>>132159464
Because there's nothing else worthwhile.

>>132159464
why should men nowadays work and start families?

>the gov't taxes working people to give the poor free money/benefits
> the bar has never been lower to sleep with a women and the trend is still going down
> half of society relentlessly blames western(white) men for all the world's problems.

After all we have done and all the lack of gratitude I think we have earned a vacation.

>>132159464
Shower upon him every earthly blessing, drown him in a sea of happiness, so that nothing but bubbles of bliss can be seen on the surface; give him economic prosperity, such that he should have nothing else to do but sleep, eat cakes and busy himself with the continuation of his species, and even then out of sheer ingratitude, sheer spite, man would play you some nasty trick. He would even risk his cakes and would deliberately desire the most fatal rubbish, the most uneconomical absurdity, simply to introduce into all this positive good sense his fatal fantastic element. It is just his fantastic dreams, his vulgar folly that he will desire to retain, simply in order to prove to himself — as though that were so necessary — that men still are men and not the keys of a piano, which the laws of nature threaten to control so completely that soon one will be able to desire nothing but by the calendar. And that is not all: even if man really were nothing but a piano-key, even if this were proved to him by natural science and mathematics, even then he would not become reasonable, but would purposely do something perverse out of simple ingratitude, simply to gain his point. And if he does not find means he will contrive destruction and chaos, will contrive sufferings of all sorts, only to gain his point! He will launch a curse upon the world, and as only man can curse, may be by his curse alone he will attain his object — that is, convince himself that he is a man and not a piano-key! If you say that all this, too, can be calculated and tabulated — chaos and darkness and curses, so that the mere possibility of calculating it all beforehand would stop it all, and reason would reassert itself, then man would purposely go mad in order to be rid of reason and gain his point! I believe in it, I answer for it, for the whole work of man really seems to consist in nothing but proving to himself every minute that he is a man and not a piano-key!

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Because
>PC master race

Third world doesnt even have the option

>>132159464
Depopulation agenda.

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>>132160654
>falling for the custom loop meme

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>>132160654
come on we all know why you're not establishing a family.

>>132159464
If you want real answer to this question, read Unabomber Manifesto, passages about the power process and surrogate activities.

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>>132159464
Sage

Summer fags are the worst

>establishing careers
slave away, mate, and don't forget to drink that morning coffee and lick your manager's ass

>and families
women are built for fucking

>>132159853
>less harmful than drugs
[citation needed]

>>132160654
I love vengeance c70 case! I still use it to this day.

>>132159464
This is just a result of having a shitty education. If you have good parents they wouldn't let you be a NEET like that

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These people are trying to make it their career through Twitch streaming or esports. In some cases, both.

This guy does it and he has a wife and a kid.

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Because making money has been demonized in the west. I have a few different streams of income, all from my computer. Watching my bank account go up is more rewarding than "grinding xp kek"

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>>132161178
:'( regretted it when i had to pull ram sticks, 20minutes work

>>132161274
Gotta marry gf 1st, shes a medical doctor, so gonna wait another yr before insisting on kids.

Computers can be productive. But tend to isolate people at home, more than consoles or outdoor hobies

>>132161588
thats not relevant to 99% of people

>>132159464
Because they're fun? Jesus. Not everything has to be some grand conspiracy by "da jooz" in order destroy white people, you paranoid stormfags.

why do western females pursue careers and whoring around instead of establishing families and feminine qualities?

>>132159464
Too many roasties these days. I even followed /pol/'s advice and met a girl through a church. But after looking into her past, it turned out that she had fallen away from the church as a teen, then returned after some "bad experiences" with boyfriends.

Dropped. I'd rather let my bloodline die out than breed with a whore.

>>132161649
you should pick up some outdoors stuff man. i got burned out on computers five or so years ago. it's a nice change of pace.

>>132161693

I didn't name any groups. I'm just wondering why so many men in the developed world just play video games all day. It's also a problem in South Korea, so it's not an exclusive western phenomena.

>>132159464
Because marriage is an absolute scam in favor of women and so it's not worth establishing a career to support one.

The vast majority of women out there will have fucked multiple men before they even met you, so why would you pay a fee to get what they got for free? Society is beyond the point of no return, so fuck it. Might as well just enjoy life while we're around.

>>132159464
I don't know but I hate it

>>132160839
Interesting. Doing so is weakness, even so.

>>132159464
>careers and families

both of those things are dogshit

>>132159464
i see about a dozen subscribe to my youtube when I play COD. how fucking sad is that pretend?

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>>132159464
>>132159667
>>132159853
>>132159856

Its Literally NOT worth what a career pays... Its also literally NOT worth the investing of all that effort which doesn't even pay you back in realtime. They say you should treat job hunting like

Besides nobody teaches how to grow a career or get a job anymore. Its a buyer's market for jobs and that means you have to know people to get you in the door. Nobody teaches this.

So it becomes a process of... go to college, get 4 year degree... go back home and live with parents while the bill collectors eventually give up collecting on the loans because (its actually not in your best interests to even get a job to pay them).

So they'll try to turn themselves into a youtube personality, or they'll start selling drugs, or they'll get some job thats less than 20 hours a week just so they can buy games and a replacement computer when its needed.

> Women and Kids

Since when do Women require a guy to have a Career to be interested in him and make babies?

Isn't she with him for his Personality, his quirks, and who he is as a human being?

If she isnt then she doesnt deserve a husband, and she DOES deserve to get fucked and discarded and knocked up by chad.

Why the fuck would i want a family?
And at least here where i live people that waste their life on video games are still the minority

>>132161916
I don't want my great grand childeren living in a world with such weak willed individuals anyway.

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>>132161378
This.

This is crappy bait at this point.

>>132162070
How is a good career dog-shit. You can use that to finance any hobby you have.

>>132161963
because there's no point in chasing pussy like in the olden days anymore. You either go out at a pub and find an easy girl or pay ~£70 for a whore.

Apart from that there's no point in impressing women, unless you cannot contain your sexual urges or you wan't to demonstrate to yourself that you can pick someone up.

>>132162394
>Since when do Women require a guy to have a Career to be interested in him and make babies?

They obviously don't given the growing number of coalburners who willingly get knocked up by worthless niggers. I never want to hear the meme that women want men with a career, taking this into consideration. These women know they're going to end up on welfare as a likely single parent but they go for it anyway.

>>132162541
>good career

there's no such thing

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>>132159464
doing neither wondering where everything went so wrong

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>>132161957
Im in AK
Pc is great for rainy days
Or when no hunting/fishing available
Or winter. Good learning challenge

>>132162541
what hobby is worthwhile and hasnt been completely (((ruined)))?

>>132159464
Because they are lazy and we're raised by self-centered parents (likely with some stupid feminist mother with a career) who let them be undisciplined latch-key kids. They handed out participation trophies, told them everything the did was bananas wonderful and never demanded anything of them. Throw-in games, which essentially provide a shortcut to the reward center of the brain, and you have the perfect recipe for creating worthless manlets. Mandatory Marine Corps inspired boot camp would fix the majority of these cream puffs pretty quickly.

>>132159464
Epeen

>>132159464
Because one is rewarding and the other one isn't.

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>>132163073
>Mandatory Marine Corps inspired boot camp would fix the majority of these cream puffs pretty quickly.

Ahahahahahahahahaha

>>132159464
Because I'm fat and ugly, because I play video games all day, because I'm fat and ugly, because I play video games all day, because I'm fat and ugly, because I...

It's a vicious circle, really. At least that means I won't be passing along potentially destructive genes.

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>>132161997
>so beta and weak that you can't control your woman

>The vast majority of women out there will have fucked multiple men before they even met you
baseless assumptions that all beta's make attempting to justify never having to try

>>132159464
Most men don't play video games all that much. But girls only like outgoing and muscular guys. Shy and average guys don't get girlfriends or wives.

>>132159464
It's alright, feminism is working long and hard to get men off video games to more active lifestyles, while more cucked men and women become distracted by video games.

it's pretty dumb. men should team up and start businesses, not guilds in an mmorpg.

>>132163431
What guild are we in?

>>132161687
It helps put perspective into OP's question.

>>132159464
the mice experiment thing.

>>132163431
Haha, yeah

>implying it's not possible to do both

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>>132163311
>baseless assumptions

I wish.

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>>132163073
>Mandatory Marine Corps inspired boot camp would fix the majority of these cream puffs pretty quickly.
That's a great way to go from people you can't argue with to assholes you can't even police. Have a few of these trainwrecks in the family, fuck if I want a whole nation full of them.

>>132159464
becouse females are a waste of time, which only result in sorrow at the end

>>132159464
because the west is gone.

>>132159464
it's the most rewarding lifestyle.

>>132159464
Because it is unfortunately the most worthwhile thing you can spend your time on in the modern era. A video game gives you goals to accomplish, something to work towards, and the ability to display your skill.

>>132163748
[citation needed]

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>>132159464

i dont know what you mean my nigglet.

>>132163748
Wow, 10+. Being a muslim, I know many of them are not any better, but being afraid of repercussions actually works.

>>132164006
https://ifstudies.org/blog/counterintuitive-trends-in-the-link-between-premarital-sex-and-marital-stability/

>>132163431
lol. mmorpgs are dying. maybe a revival in the future. there will always be neckbearded nerds.

>>132159464
>brought up by single mothers
>lack of a alpha male figure to enforce boundaries
>mothers just let their kids do whatever they want,as long as they are happy
>they end up becomeing lazy jellys with no drive

Video games are pretty fun and its generally cheaper than socialising in person

/pol/ doesn't like to hear the truth as usual but I'll say it and take the heat for it.

There is no incentive to be a "real man" these days. Tell me exactly why I should "MAN UP" for a bunch of sluts, minority shitskins and non-white women? Why should I willingly be some perfect 10/10 young white alpha male who makes everyone happy simultaneously?

/pol/ traditionalists are very similar to feminists in many ways. They think women are oppressed in western society, they think male privilege exists for all men. They think that women are victims in so many strange autistic far-fetched ways and that young men are to blame. They resent young "men these days" for not being "alpha" enough and not dating women and not being some horny little dudebros with high sex drives. On and on. You just can't win with these people. If you're successful at X, you fail at Y, so therefore their anger against you is eternally re-directed. That's the privilege of being a young white male in modern western society.

For all of /pol/'s rhetoric, it conveniently ignores WHY young men do X or don't do Y, and instead eternally shills for women. Not to mention the minority shitskins who come here and know that if young white men opt out, then their comfy lives of gibs and scumbaggery end.

Just remember /pol/, the problem here is you. You give young men and endless maze of standards to be held to which are near-impossible to abide by, and even when some of them do end up passing those tests, you invent more hurdles in order to give women the victimhood everyone else gives them. If you want your traditional society back, prioritize young white males, take away women's rights and deport the shitskins. And if you don't want to do that, then accept that men can't match up to what you want since the world has changed and stop bitching about it online since you have no power to change it.

>>132164946
This guy gets it. If women were worthwhile, I would have absolutely zero problem "manning up" and securing myself one. As it stands, they're worthless. But this is how they want to me; they're "proud sluts" after all. They want to focus on their careers and hop from bed to bed. Society welcomes and encourages this.

>>132165158
>want to be

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>>132163073
>the military makes people employable in the civilian world

>>132159464

Because women are the vaginal jew

>>132159900
You say that now but as you grow older you will regret it. Im an introvert who really loves games and i thought i would never get sick of the worlds i was experiencing well i did. Now i regret not starting a family which you should be doing at a young age not playing games.

>>132159464

The women are rabid. So there's no drive to build a career or really have a family. In the back of their minds all men kind of want this.
Many just aren't bothering for the moment.
They've essentially checked out of society as much as possible. I wonder why they would do that?

>>132159464
Ahh, we create establish careers and play video games. Check mate, Atheist!

>>132165436
And when you're stuck paying child support and alimony to some woman who got bored and decided to find a new man to swindle, you'd wish you'd have just stuck playing video games or found another hobby.

>>132165473
*and

>>132159464

because families and careers = lifetime of unhappiness

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>tfw at 22 I'm beginning to realize just how damaging being raised as an only child by a single mother was

>tfw until now I always thought my ability to keep myself entertained alone was a good thing

>tfw everything they say is true, I have little drive and want to mitigate work whenever possible.

"or they'll get some job thats less than 20 hours a week just so they can buy games and a replacement computer when its needed."

- Fuck man, that's me. When I worked I only wanted to work enough to blow money on fun shit.

Sad! How do I turn around?

>>132165360
why would you get out of the military and not just be a PMC?

i don't get it.

>>132165722
Careers are alright, you can buy beer and vidya at a greater rate.

>>132165775
Why bother?

>>132165775
im 27 and I "turned it around" but it doesn't really change anything, normalfags are like characters from oblivion and everything they indulge in is niggerloving homo bullshit and jobs are just hell unless you self employ

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>>132165775
You've gotta find that meaning yourself, Bucko! Try taking responsibility.

>>132159464
1.jews have outsourced jobs to east asia so no man in eu or usa cant sustain family just by working in factory .
2.Women got brainwashed by entertainment industry that marriage and raising kids is a waste of time and no fun thus eternal choose cock carousel .
In general gaming is cheaper and more fun than hunting for some roaste leftover or slaving for jew capitalist pig and after 50 years labour dying from work related cause .

>>132165790
t. underage

by family do you mean the ex wife that you pay alimony to and the kid you never see that you have your check taken from for child support?

>>132165838
Because I'm tired of video games anon. Everything exciting in my life happened over two years ago. That sucks man.

I'm ready to get started again, but it's difficult to kick into gear.

Computer games hijack the male competitive instincts that usually drive success. Instead of accumulating resources and status in the real world they do it in virtual ones. Their subconsciousness is not good at telling the difference

>>132159464
Third wave feminism.

>>132165998
I've been going through Peterson, actually. That's what has made me realize that I'm stuck in neutral. Reflection and trying to critically understand my myth has made me realize that I'm acting out a tragedy.

I want to sort myself out and do the next thing. But that's gonna be way harder than sitting here. So that's diametrically opposed to how I've been living. So it's hard to get going again.

>>132166239
Just do exercise, think positively and get yourself a regiment. The main issue people have is that they get stuck in a routine, that routine originally gave them a dopamine high, but now they get nothing and do not know how to get out of it.

>>132166239
What's a good video to get started on Peterson? I want to understand my own myth.

let's get this point, life before in the western territory was cruel, rude, but exiting, plenty of wars, disputed territories, live day by day. Now the man at least have the opportunity to feel those kind of emotions virtually.

>>132166435
I recommend his Joe Rogan podcasts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04wyGK6k6HE

Then the maps of meaning series, that's what I'm going through right now.

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>>132159464
Because, the current world system is utter garbage, social life is meaningless and i'm sure as hell that i'm not going to waste 50 years of my life working just to be able to survive.

So, i play games, shitpost on the interweb, just waiting to day the lord takes me. Life's pretty good, thb senpai

>>132165775

I'm 35 and I had two good parents but have nearly always done the same thing. I had a wife. She turned insane after 12 years and now I raise my kids by myself. She's a heroine addict with her new husband.
If I really think about it? Why do I just work hard enough to get computer stuff and games and pot and fun things, and take care of my kids, but not a career? Not dating?
I guess because society sucks that much. My home is nice. It has values. Morals. I run it. Out there? It's a fucking wasteland.
You can start a family today. It'll just be broken in the end. If that's what you want.
You can have a heavy career, but you'll just work yourself half to death for a big empty house in the end you never see.
Or you could work a half decent job, buy dorky things, nerd out, be like the 40 year old virgin, and be lonely, but laugh your ass off at comic books, and smile a lot.
Yea it's a little childish. But it's not miserable.
Everything else? Looks pretty fucking miserable.

>>132159464
Because video games are still a relatively new form of entertainment and there's so many people in the world it doesn't matter anyway.

You don't have a problem with that, do you champ?

>>132162394
>Since when do Women require a guy to have a Career to be interested in him and make babies?
Since always. Supporting a family requires about 10x as much money as supporting yourself so you're going to need a serious job.

>Isn't she with him for his Personality, his quirks, and who he is as a human being?
No. No she isn't. Women don't feel romantic love the same way men do. Men fall in love with a woman and women fall in love with a man's resources and utility.

>If she isnt then she doesnt deserve a husband, and she DOES deserve to get fucked and discarded and knocked up by chad.
It isn't that women don't deserve a husband. The problem is the current marriage contract fucks the husband over so fewer men actually sign that contract.

>>132166562
You're better of focusing on a career until you're at least in your late 20s and then focusing on starting on a family. At least then, you'll have the capital to start one and, unlike women. Men age like fine wine. You'll be able to to get someone who's a lot younger.

the video games have been extended the notion of fight, war and male games for the western society. The question its not video games but what kind of video games.

>>132159856

The costs and risks associeted with marriage are seriously overblown by people on /pol/

These lies are pushed by people here who live typical, modern, nu-male lives, and they feel incredibly guilty about it.
So they create these rationalizations in order to justify living their lifestyles while posting on a right wing board.

I'm not saying you have to get married and have children. I'm just saying, you would be a lot happier if you just said to yourself "Yes, I live a typical leftist hedonist lifestyle and I am not ashamed", instead of putting on this right wing hat in order to fit in.

Own it.

>>132166065
Watch Jordan Peterson, he can tell you a thing or two about human psychology, and CLEAN YOUR ROOM. Or Tai Lopez, he can tell you a thing or two about how to make a living. Or Elliot Hulse can show you how to be alpha male.
Become stoic, basically. Stoics do the menial labor now, to increase their gains later.
Epicureans do what they want now, and never do the menial labor.
There's a quote that I heard from Tai Lopez, which is "Nations are born stoic and dies epicurean".

>>132165617
This.

Marry a 19 year old when you're 35 and have money...

>>132165988
You are right normies are very shallow so you need to work harder to find the rare ones.
>>132166096
Gamers know this. Which is why after your first MMO you can no longer enjoy another. Still the distractions of games go away after while where a real world would keep you memorized.
>>132165617
Sure marriage is a risk/reward but you have only one life fella. It doesnt matter if you disagree with me now as i know from experience you cannot comprehend what you cannot feel. At least i warned you when nobody explained shit to me as a youth.

>>132159464
Jobs aren't fun, but video games are. And it only takes a Wal-Mart-greeter-tier paycheck to live the gaymer life.

>>132159464
Why date anymore and find try to find a mate when if they don't like you after sex, they can just scream rape and ruin your own life?

>>132159464
Why are western women being sluts all day instead of establishing households and families?

the art is too good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAExa9P7hME

>>132167074
The sexual revolution, degradation of Christianity, perverse incentives to be single with kids, such as welfare and child welfare from the Dad.

>>132159464
Because it is a losing game to pay into this shit society. You will end up working until you die broke and in debt.

I just deleted all of my video games. Hopes up!

>>132166749
t. 19 year old

>>132166879
>Sure marriage is a risk/reward but you have only one life fella

Yeah, and the best thing to do with that one life you have is play the 50/50 game of whether or not some woman is going to divorce you and strip you of all of your pride and possessions.

It is hard to find a like-minded girl, who isn't interested in material possessions and one-upping her stacy friends with a life of elite level consumerism.

>>132167394
Did that myself, you'll be back. Like I did.

>>132159464
because its more fun and vidya cant take your money and/or property from you

>>132167390

this

most young men would love to support their wife and kids in a nice house, but that's simply not financially possible anymore for people not born into money, what you're going to get at best is you and your wife work long ass hours to pay for a shitty apartment for your kids you never see and in reality you'll just get divorced and child support cucked to add to your debts

>>132166768
I know too many people on their first or second wife, or divorced and never going back to believe it is all an internet mgtow meme.

>>132159464
Don't worry, now that (((they))) ruined beyond saving, well get back on track

>>132167523
It's not the first time. We will see. I'm going on a week-long vacation, so maybe that'll help.

>>132167462
Yup the cards are stacked against you these days but the end goal remains the same. I wont reply anymore take what i said or leave it. GL with life.

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Raising a family ain't worth it in this day and age, unless you find a 1 in a thousand girl who is a) loyal, b) amicable, and c) motherly. Video games offer more enjoyment for cheaper. Raising a family is worthless. I'd much rather have fun.

Society has failed me. I'm waiting its collapse out while playing vidya, watching anime, reading books, and listening to music. There's fuck all you can do to convince me to bother wasting time, energy, and money trying to start a family. It's not worth it.

Sorry to break it to you, but having a family isn't important anymore. Boomers ruined everything for everyone by birthing modern women and raising them like princesses, giving them no-fault divorces, encouraging them to slag it up, and discriminating against men.

>>132167659
just get a degree. or move to america.

everyone i know who graduated college can afford a 300-400k house only a couple years after finding their job

>>132167983
wew

>>132167945
Okay, I'll leave it. I've seen way too many men's lives utterly ruined by the current state of society and don't want to be another statistic. Best of luck with your life as well.

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>>132159464

OP, sorry u femscum, try parasite and spread your toxicity somewhere else.

>>132165436
>>132165617
I'm both of these if you could believe it.
Dated a girl, she got pregnant. She broke up with me, had an abortion.

I'm still technically young, but i'm so tired. i should want a family, and I kind of do. But I also know it would have been very bad had i had one with her. (I also feel regret at what happened, but that's not the point of this post).

So here i am knowing it could be worse, wanting something, but just so tired of everything. And no energy.

>>132162394
mind your business

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(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_B._Calhoun#Mouse_experiments)

In July 1968 four pairs of mice were introduced into the habitat. There was no shortage of food or water or nesting material. There were no predators.

The last surviving birth was on day 600, bringing the total population to a mere 2200 mice... This period between day 315 and day 600 saw a breakdown in social structure and in normal social behavior. Among the aberrations in behavior were the following: expulsion of young before weaning was complete, wounding of young, increase in homosexual behavior, inability of dominant males to maintain the defense of their territory and females, aggressive behavior of females, passivity of non-dominant males with increased attacks on each other which were not defended against. After day 600, the social breakdown continued and the population declined toward extinction. Their male counterparts withdrew completely, never engaging in courtship or fighting. They ate, drank, slept, and groomed themselves – all solitary pursuits. Sleek, healthy coats and an absence of scars characterized these males. They were dubbed "the beautiful ones." Breeding never resumed and behavior patterns were permanently changed.

...when all available space is taken and all social roles filled, competition and the stresses experienced by the individuals will result in a total breakdown in complex social behaviors, ultimately resulting in the demise of the population.

Calhoun saw the fate of the population of mice as a metaphor for the potential fate of man. He characterized the social breakdown as a "second death,” with reference to the “second death” mentioned in the Biblical book of Revelation 2:11. His study has been cited by writers such as Bill Perkins as a warning of the dangers of the living in an "increasingly crowded and impersonal world."

>Breeding never resumed

>>132159464
Because they are content. Welcome to [extended period of peace]

>>132159464
>lack of quality women
>lack of jobs
>constantly discriminated against

my intention is to have a white family but you cant pretend the cards aren't stacked against us more than ever

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>>132163073
This lazy millennial men thing is complete myth. every generation has lazy men. Think about the 70s with the lazy stoner hippies in almost every 70s movie. look at woodstock. think all of them were CEOs? I have been trying to get a job for 3 years. I have applied from tacobell to janitor hundreds of applications. Never a call back. Dont give me that you have to call them to double check bullshit because it doesnt work.

there are NO jobs

Because employers want me to get a BS, a master's, 5+ years of experience in a relevant field, and six different certificates to do a minimum wage job a simpleton could do.

>>132169566
this

>>132168904
Yeah, pretty much. The final generation of mice had very little space to themselves. Most of the men kept grooming themselves and never bothered chasing their female counterparts. The women were all isolating themselves with alpha mice, however it became an intense competition between the alphas over the women.

The thing is, no one wants to believe that humans are like mice. They think humans are somehow magically better than mice and that society won't end up going that way.

>>132169769
exactly. Everyone is fucked. The person with no degree is fucked because he cant get a job
and the person WITH the degree gets the job at Tacobell while having a degree that should pay more.
Everyone loses.

Damn, /pol/.

I grew up in a big family and would certainly like to start one of my own at some point, but it definitely feels like it's more and more of a risk as time goes on.

I finished my grad degree and am now working on a CPA cert to better myself. I didn't believe a lot of this 'women fuck over men' stuff until you really see the numbers.

Working on finance, taxes, and general accounting for individuals and businesses shows that to a great extent: men are severely disadvantaged when it comes to getting a divorce.

My sisters are all married to good guys and I definitely think they chose winners. I'm always asked about dating and I've gone back and forth with dating sites/apps to no avail. Just seems like the whole dating scene is as convoluted and difficult as ever.

I'm 29 and enjoying life right now, but I just don't know if marriage will be worth it with all of the doomsday talk I hear back and forth.

>>132159464
Because the guys in your picture make more money playing videogames than you do at your McJob.

>>132170708
>dating sites/apps
That's what you're doing wrong. Pick an interesting hobby/activity and use it as a mean to meet people. Go hiking, go to church, play sports. In my humble experience, women who take care for their health (not the vegetarian meme life, I mean sportsy/athletic girls) are usually suitable candidates for long term relationships. Avoid gym whores, though.

>>132167659
Fellow socialist?

>>132159464
Why does /pol/ hate video games so much? If it wasnt for gamers going after Zoe Quinn then there would be alot more bluepills walking around. Its literally one of the only facets of culture left that is devoured by marxist-wannabe bullshit.

It's pointless. Nothing really matters anymore. Most of us have already clocked out and live just to pull the world to hell in a hand basket a little bit faster a la Trump.

>>132170979

You're definitely right, anon.

Reason I was using sites/apps before was my schedule.

I was either at work or school most nights and then usually studying or enjoying what little downtime I had on the weekends.

Joined a gym (also noted to avoid the gym hos) just to get out and about and in better shape.

I suppose it's about putting myself out there at this point.

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>>132159464
>Why are western men playing video games all day instead of establishing careers and families?
>post an image of people who play video games as a career

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>>132159464
modern woman. No thanks

>>132159464
>starting a career
Why, so the government can siphon off money to funnel into the ghetto?

>starting family
Why, so some random cunt can sucker me in, then siphon off half my money to ride Chad and Jamal?

hey fuck off i play hearts of iron 4 and rome 2 what you think im gonna put up with my gf 24/7? i already brainwashed mine gf into the 4th reich and incorrect truths.

>>132165775
Earn just enough to pay for the things you actually use, with a chunk of income left over each month to put in an emergency fund.
Earning lots of money is a meme. Having big numbers in a bank somewhere but a miserable life is pointless.

>>132162851
Would you recommend living in AK? I really do like the outdoors. Is it really as violent as they say?

>>132159464
How about if we already did all that? Can we play vidya all day then?

>>132171219
If you're serious about wanting to commit to a relationship, first you have to work on your looks and personality, because you can't afford to be picky if you're an autistic uggo (beggars choosers yada yada). I know JBP is a huge meme but SORT YOURSELF OUT is probably the best advice ever given.

Being able to choose your partner is critical because the world is infested with vapid cunts, you need to filter them out and find the right one. (Pro tip: you won't find your future wife in the city, let alone a big city). Don't choose girls who are planning to have a high end career like Law or Medicine because you will always be second behind their jobs, unless you have money or you believe you can have enough money to sustain her jobless ass once he turns 30 and she realizes that working 60 hours a week in a stressful job sucks fucking ass and that feminists fought for nothing all this time. Avoid girls who spend time on social media, girls who "love animals" (they'd rather have 100 dogs before a child), girls who are afraid of guns... there are a thousand and one red flags, to be honest. I wish you more luck than I ever had. Godspeed.

>>132159464
I'm not prime real estate or anything, but most women are completely worthless. They've usually slept around, have tattoos, are overweight, have no interest in motherly things, and will siphon all of your money when divorce comes along. I have a solid career and I'll just keep to myself.

>>132159464
Implying all of them don't....

>>132159464
What's in it for me?

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>>132159464
Argue to hard against

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>>132159464
Because careers aren't an option. Mass unemployment has been intentional economic policy since the 1980s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdZp5iw-UEo

In 1974 Britain's Labour Party campaigned with pic-related. Unemployment is presently at 1.5 million, and even this (achieved via insecure part-time labour and people simply giving up looking for work so they don't count on the statistics.) is much lower than it has been at any time before 1975.

Without a secure job, few can bring children into the world in good conscience.

>"hahaha fucking white cis males cause all the problems, why don't you just fuck off and let us women take over"
"wwwwwwwooooooooooowwwwwww why are men just playing video games now, thanks kojima"

>>132159464

Because the system is completely transparent in its motive.

No point when society is about to crash and burn

>>132172120
>>132172286
>I'm a strong independent woman and I don't need no man in my life, I can make it on my own!
>YAAAAAAAS QUEEN SLAAAAAYYYY YOU GO GIRL

>I'm a strong independent man and I don't need a woman in my life, I can make it on my own!
>OMG you pathetic VIRGIN LMAO! You NEED to find a woman and support her and her children! What the fuck is WRONG with men these days???? You are PATHETIC!

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>>132171965

Nah, I'm not a socially awkward person. Just took a decent amount of time to get myself established.

Good advice though, anon.

I leave the video games many years ago. You can say whatever you can but video games are for children- teenagers and by 20 something you should leave them.

>>132159464
Why work when niggers and mudslimes are going to steal anything you make, and destroy anything you build? Get rid of the non whites, and I guarantee you start seeing white careers/families again

>>132172451
That's about it, We don't need to be with women for years to have children and personally, I can't afford to find a GF and start a family

There's no rush, better wait until I get a better job, choose the woman I want and having many children with the financiary backup it needs

>>132172637
I left* Stupid pablos cant speak nothing other than their retarded language.

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>>132160654
Is this what shitposters look like here and on FB?

>>132172515
What did you major in?

>>132172980
>stupid pablos
>t. Paulo

>>132173076
Spaniards manage to be worse than you spics when it comes to learning new languages. The apple doesnt fall far from the tree I guess

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>>132159464
>modern women

>>132172980
you understood me bro relax

>>132159464
I'll start taking care of myself right after the world decides it wants to stop fucking my people up the ass. Why should I work hard to allow for the continuance of a status quo that is quite actually, destroying the West? No thanks, kick out the Muslims and Beaners, reserve the process of rampant feminizing our youth and for the love of god get the god damn dirty kikes out of our banking and foreign policy. I'm going to go play video games, the "adults" can't help but fuck up civilization, it's really none of my concern any longer.

>>132173371
Just larping spanishbro. Good reaction, didnt take the bait. Enhorabuena.

>>132173535
iberian federation soon

>>132172787
this is how I feel too
It's not just niggers but it sums it up pretty well
we're not able to build something for ourselves anymore. every time you do something they take a percentage from you. even if you become successful and pay a lot of taxes you're ridiculed for your white privileged while your taxes go towards blacks and minorities to breed and succeed.
you can't even create a tight nit group and live in peace without some federal agent provoking an issue.
so we're stuck just existing in a society that isn't beneficial to us anymore.

>>132173076

Undergrad in Business Admin

Grad in Financial Mgmt & Accounting

>>132159464
Becuase it's not worth the trouble, I dreamed of the family life as a kid, true love, all that bullshit.

Now that I've lived, loved, and hated I'd rather take over a virtual world and just wait to die.

>>132160285
Oh hi Dosty

>>132173864
Where you from?

>>132159464
>pour your heart and soul into a woman, break your back financing a house
>discover she's fucking some 6'5 dock worker behind your back
Most of these guys don't even want to deal with the modern woman, and I don't blame them

Because fuck-it.

>>132174089
Who hurt you, anon?

>>132159553
Estonia wins again. fpbp, /thread, etc.
Good job.
Sage. Good bye.

>>132166801
What if you're not getting hired for fucking Wal-Mart and McDonalds? What do you do then? I can't just leave and go where the jobs are.

>>132159949
>After all we have done and all the lack of gratitude I think we have earned a vacation.

this

>>132173201
Don't pretend Spaniards and Portugueses are substantially different

>>132174002
How's that going for you?

>>132159464
>make 300k+ a year streaming
>instead of establishing careers

>>132159464
because you fags took their guns away

>>132159464
>Why are western men playing video games all day instead of establishing careers and families?
Why are women such STD ridden sluts and unworthy of pursuit?

>>132159464
>careers
too young
>families
too young

>>132174249
Hurt's a strong word, more like disillusioned.

>>132159464
because women and children suck

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>>132159464
I have never really had friends and wouldn't even know how to get a gf let alone a wife. i don't want to settle for a fat girl either so i guess I'm fucked.