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Please explain to me why any citizen should have access to dangerous, semi auto guns. There is no need in a first world civilized country for any citizen to own semi auto firearms. As a gun owner myself, I propose a full buyback of all firearms, followed by a confiscation. After this point, I would implement shotgun, revolver and rifle licenses that could be accessed after rigorous testing and evaluation (around 1 year). These would allow the purchase of shotguns limited to two shells, manual action revolvers limited to 6 rounds and bolt action rifles limited to 5.
>Inb4 MUH CONSTITUTION
No one cares about that 200 year old piece of paper written by slave holding white men.
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>>132132841
> hides his nigger-tier euro country's flag
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You aren't even trying with this shit are you??
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>>132132897
Nice argument.
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>>132132841
Even first world civilized countries have criminals

The death of a criminal is preferable to the death of a law-abiding citizen
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>>132132986
flag-coward giving me shit
Whoa dude really blew my mind
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Kill yourself.
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>>132132841
None of your arguments make any sense.
Go ahead. Come and take them.
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>>132132841
>There is no need
when libshits run our proud country into the ground, then there will be a tremendous need. until then, the guns stand ready.
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>>132132841
Look leaf, I paid more for my side arm than your car probably costs. I know Canadians know nothing about a balanced budget, but our country in trillions in debt (thanks Obama).
I have a few rifles that are of equal value.

I'm one person. The government doesn't have the $ to do a buy back program. It's not economically possible.
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>132132841
This thread again...
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>>132132841
How do you propose you go about confiscating the guns unless you also have guns? In which case guns would be good? For you. At any rate, all rights you think you have hinge upon the ability to protect them. You, will not and can not limit my ability to protect myself and my family. If you try, you will be shot. Simple as that. Its not rocket science. It takes some serious mental gymnastics to think its okay to disarm your populace but its ask okay for some people to have guns in order to do it.
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>>132133552
Your schizophrenic delusion should not mix with policy. I assure you society will not collapse. >>132133373
Not an argument.
>>132133024
Every country has criminals. We are the only first world country that sells criminals guns.
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>>132132841
I dunno.
I do target shooting.
That's a reason enough for me.
Or is sport illegal now?
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>>132134099
You could still target shoot with revolvers, bolt action rifles and side by side shotguns.
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>>132132841
>posting a 226
>not posting a legion

step up your game goy
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>>132134006
Except we don't sell guns to felons, or people who have been involuntarily committed. Still waiting on how you propose to enforce gun control without guns. Or the mental gymnastics you come up with for why some guns are okay for some people and why you think you are the one who should decide such things.
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very simply put...
history is an unending ocean of human bloodshed
government is the number one murderer of all times
need i go on?
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>>132132841
the reason the americans have the second amendment to defend against a tyrannical government
take off your christian LARPer flag you fuckboy
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>>132132841
Please explain why any government or solider should be allowed to own any firearms or explosive, protip you can't. If Civilians cant own them, then why should Governments have them as well? That would solve all wars!!!!!! Liberals are for war

Kill yourself.
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>>132132841
>Inb4 MUH LEGITIMATE LOGICAL ARGUMENT
Nope. Sorry, sweetie, it doesn't work that way. :)
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>>132134286
The government of the UK is clearly going on murder rampages against their people. It's 2017, there's no such reality in the first world that fits your delusion.
>>132134280
We sell guns to people who go out an commit crime and yes, the government does need firearms. However, the push against guns needs to come from society. We need social consequences for owning aussalt weapons.
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That amendment exists expressly to protect the security of the nation.

>Muh glocks against helicopters puhlububrrbrbrb

And how do invading military forces vs. large insurgent populations tend to go?
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>>132134459
>Please explain why people who are vetted and trained to use firearms are more qualified to own them then people who are not
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>>132132841
it's only dangerous if you're a nigger.
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>>132134544
>We sell guns to people who go out an commit crime and yes,
No. "We" don't. You're an idiot, and I know for a fact you have never gone through the process of buying a firearm.

t. guy that worked behind the gun counter
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>>132134785
>>132134544
take off your memeflag you fucking coward
let us see the true face of the anti-freedom shitposter
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>>132134544
No they're just letting shitskins do it. We're the only country left with free speech and the rights to protect ourselves, clearly it works.
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>>132134785
I'm a veteran and have been trained to a higher level than you, why can't I own an AR 15 you fucking cock jacket

If no one owned firearms or bombs there would be peace, in your faggy daydreams about pissing on the 2nd Amendment that will NEVER come, why not go all the way you delusional fucking retard.

If I ever met you, i'd literally slap you in the fucking face with my penis. Like literally pull out my cock and slap it right across your lips, but knowing the faggotry on the left, you'd get hard from it.
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>>132134544
The social consequence being? Like how "racism" has social consequences? Your arguments are shit. I have 19 firearms. Rifles, handguns and shotguns. Most of them are semi automatic. I have never committed a crime. Why should the government take my property, and limit my rights for another persons actions? That's like someone using a Camry to run someone over so the government pays you half value for your car and makes you wait a year to get a moped.

The only rights you truly have are the rights you can enforce by violence. The law of the jungle still applies to man. And violence is still the gold standard by which all social currency is ultimately backed.
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>>132134906
Ok
>>132135005
You are not qualified to use weaponry outside of the supervision of your superiors, Even if you were, you owning ausalt weapons puts the entire country at risk. If your AR was stolen, a criminal could commit a mass shooting.
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Agreed OP, semi auto is dangerous.

Let us have full auto to properly protect ourselves.
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>>132132841
That jap emperor who refused to invade the US disagreed with you.
He said something along the line of never in my in my fucking life there would be guns all over the fucking place.
Do you ever guerrilla warfare?
A shovel and a gun is all you need if you do it properly, go ask the Vietcongs if you don't believe me. The amerifats had to go back home because they thought like you.
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>>132135262
I AM the superior you fucking retard.
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>>132135300
It was basically "behind every blade of grass awaits a rifle"
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>>132135262
mass shootings can still happen with guns being banned you fucking spastic
paris, fralgeria
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>>132132841
I agree but can we make sure only POC can get a license, we wouldn't want those awful white men murdering our children again.
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>>132135300
That's a myth.
>>132135389
Doesn't matter. you owning ausalt weapons puts the entire country at risk. If your AR was stolen, a criminal could commit a mass shooting.
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>>132132841
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>>132132841
Bait is too good to be serious

We need guns because we have a nigger and commie problem
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>>132135262
And is there a problem with that? Two hundred years ago, you go out and break an ankle and die from it. People die, get over it. Its not my goddamn problem and anyone trying to prevent humans from dying, you're ruining the planet. Humans need to die.


18B E6 33 years old Retired you fucking fuck hole, its part of my goddamn job to train people to use firearms to fight oppressive governments/fighters

>>132135623
Humans are over populated, they need to be removed forcibly if necessary.
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>>132132841
Kys
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>>132132841
2nd Amendment is to protect the citizen from the state. Mandatory buy back & confiscation is just retarded because criminals & gangs will still have guns. All you will have done is disarm the good guys. Oh & yes we still care about the Constitution.
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>>132135623
We don't take away rights because of "if's"
>someone could steal your car and commit a crime with it, therefore you can't have a car

See how stupid that sounds?
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>>132135768
/thread
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>Please explain to me why any citizen should have access to dangerous, semi auto guns.
For when the government decides to import rape gangs that rape 1800+ girls for years and decides to protect them, because anything esle would be racist.
When that happens, citizens should have guns so they can assassinate the politicians.
Does this sound like a bad movie? Like a plot to absurd even for a mustache twirling James Bond villain? Well, it is not.
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Because every authoritarian regime in history has disarmed it's citizens. Oh, and an AR-15 is not an "assault rifle", genius. An assault rifle has to be capable of switching between semi- and full-auto.

And I don't even own any guns. I just support gun ownership across the board because I'm not a bootlicker like the OP.

>200 year-old document written by white slave owners
Same document that declares you have a right to free speech, a speedy trial by jury, protection against unreasonable search and seizure, agaibst self-incrimination, and against excessive fines and bail. Throw out one section of the Bill of Rights, might as well throw it all out.
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>>132132841
no one cares about your retarded opinion
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>>132136000
And the Girandoni air rifle was a thing too, semiauto air rifle, even Lewis and Clark used one
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>>132132841
Because we don't think lowest common denominator government stooges should be the only ones with access to such weapons. Why don't you explain to us why lefty clowns, such as yourself, always think government is our benign buddy that should be trusted?
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>>132132841
As an interior member of the EU commission in Brussels I know you're a shill. I thought they didn't approve your budget till Q1 2018 though.

Reminder that the EU commission are using shills as a way of railing back against the Czech Republic's vote and trying to turn sentiment against them, like they always do with other countries.
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Because at the end of the day, when it all comes down to it, you are responsible for your safety and the safety of your family.

The police arent there to protect you; the Supreme Court has already determined so (if you are American). They are there to enforce the law, not save your life, and may be minutes or an hour away in some rural counties.

The Army, the National Guard, etc are extremely limited in their ability to protect you.

The government has repeatedly failed to protect people, as seen in the LA Riots and New Orleans after Katrina, or at Virginia Tech when they were lured away, or at Aurora Colorado, and had to fall back in Dallas during the BLM riot.

They cannot gurantee your protection. No government can gurantee it, nor can a church, or an army, or a school. Only you. And THAT is the most uncomfortable truth to most people, that the powers that be are at best willing and often too late, or at worst are disinterested due to liability, cost, and effort.
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>>132132841
But I thought the cops were evil these days. Which is it? Should they be the only ones who are allowed to have guns or are they racist pigs who shoot everybody for no reason?
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>>132136100
>Same document that declares you have a right to free speech, a speedy trial by jury, protection against unreasonable search and seizure, agaibst self-incrimination, and against excessive fines and bail. Throw out one section of the Bill of Rights, might as well throw it all out.
If I could rewrite the constitution right now, I wouldn't look at the antiquated ideals of rapists and slave owners. I would look at South Africa and their constitution.
>>132136100
>Oh, and an AR-15 is not an "assault rifle", genius. An assault rifle has to be capable of switching between semi- and full-auto.
Never said it was, it is an assault weapon. Legally it is defined as such.
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>>132136449
Oh so genocide on a sub spieces of human based on their skin color is okay? Sounds good to me
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>>132132841
OH YEAH WE SHOULD BAN COCAINE TOO WHILE WERE AT IT!! THEN NOBODY WOULD BE ABLE TO OBTAIN COCAINE!!! BRILLIANT!
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>>132132841
Tyrannical Government:

https://youtu.be/9gD19zevHJM
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>>132132841
DO NOT REPLY TO SLIDE THREAD.
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>>132135389
Kek
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>>132132841
>need
kys double nigger faggot
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>>132132841
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>>132136601
cocaine was sold to the black communities in the 60s by the (right wing) government because they were terrified of a successful black community. Bad example.
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>>132136880
why the fuck am i replying to a motherfucker on 7 levels of irony
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>>132136880
Yeah right, niggers be successful
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>>132132841
you can give up your shit guns if you want, i'm not giving mine up
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>>132136880
>60s
>Right Wing
>JFK, LBJ
>Pro civil rights executive that creates the Great Society and health care programs
>Right Wing

I'm not sure that means what you think that means.
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>>132132841
This fucking shit again
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>>132132841
>revolver
>not semi auto
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Aaaaaaahahhahahahahh

ITT: dumb goy burger slaves trying to perpetuate the "we own dem gunz n shit we defend our familays n shit"

I swear this board turned me into crypto-SJW I swear I wanna see all you faggots stomped by the government boot, and I hope it happens fast, as soon as they impeach that piece of shit clown that you have as your president.

You fucking faggots boast the gun rights and post that shit on instagram and jewtube to compensate for your epidemic burger goy insecure manlet disorder...

When have you used it against the "government"?

Oh man I can't wait when they come after your faggot guns, you pieces of shit. And to make it funnier, they will probably come in fully armored LGBT colored police van, and you gun faggots won't do...

...wait for it...

NOTHING.

Nothing.
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>>132136880
Which right-wing government would that be? Democrat JFK or democrat LBJ?

Get the fuck off this board with your nigger-tier posts.
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>>132137272
WRONG.
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>>132132897
Gonna have to back the leaf..
>sips nasty maple bacon makers mark
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>>132137272
Are you the lefty fucking "croat" shill i've seen before?
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>>132137145
They legally aren't. There are some semi auto revolvers though.
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>>132135623
Even if that's a myth.
The US getting handled by the Vietcong in conventional modern warfare is not.

Sure modern warfare, but if your pops is digging holes all over the place armed to the teeth playing hard style survivalist... it still counts.
An armed nation and a Nordic environment is the best a nation can have to defend itself.

Before speaking of warfare it would be good if you actually took the time to read military literature.
You're way off or just a passive cunt with a lot of projection if you think it's easy to invade a country with a gun culture.
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>>132132841
Why should any citizen have access to anything "dangerous" to begin with?
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>>132132841
Shut the fuck up if you ever got your ass beat youd want one too.
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>>132132841
No?! YOU SAY 'NO' TO MY AR-15, YOU FUCKIN' PRICK! YOU AIN'T GONNA ABLE TO SAY 'NO' TO ME WHEN I GET TO YOUR HOUSE, YOU MOTHERFUCKER!!
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>>132132841

Please explain to me why you are still here and not in North Korea where you can live out your communist dream?
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>>132137433

Baahahaha....limey. A fuckin limey.

Isn't it fucking time to bow in the direction of Mecca, you fucking pathetic mudslime cunt?
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>>132132841
My wife is 5'3" and 115 lbs. If a 6'0" 230 lbs man attacks her she cannot win physically. She can't outrun them, she can't outfight them. Guns let her win that fight and deter the criminal from attempting anything in the first place.
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If you do not defend yourself you're a victim.
If you do not defend your family you're a failure.
If anyone tries to take away my means of self defense I will defend myself.
OP can do whatever xe likes while being attacked by hostile people.
I will perform my duty and use a gun if need be.
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Colt single-action army revolvers will be all the rage with nigger gangs in Chicago.

Rise of the dindu cowboys.
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>>132137704
You sound incredibly arseblasted.
Who hurt you?
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>>132132841
>200 year old piece of trash


Yeah the piece of trash that secured you the life style you now have. Please use one of the many guns you own and do everyone a favor and blood your own brains out.
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SHALL
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>>132137817
No
see
>>132136449
>If I could rewrite the constitution right now, I wouldn't look at the antiquated ideals of rapists and slave owners. I would look at South Africa and their constitution.
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>>132132841
But what if the law abiding citizen is getting atacked by more than one individual?
What if the law abiding citizen is easly stressed and can't rely on his precision in panic to land a shot?
what if op is a fag?
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>>132137916
NOT
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>>132132841
>wehavethisthreadeveryday.jpg

saged
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>>132132841
Explain to me why people are allowed to own semi auto cars?

I miss true standard transmissions.
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>>132138097
Cars were never designed to kill.
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>Constitution of South Africa
Yeah, the same country with de jure segregation up until the 90's.

Gun grabbers aren't anti-gun, they just want guns in the hands of state-sanctioned thugs.
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>>132132841
Okay chuckle nuts. We give the gubberment all out guns. Then what. All the law abiding citizens that had guns now are unarmed. All the people that have guns left are... That's right! The gubberment and the criminals. And I shouldn't need to tell you why only the gubberment and criminals having guns is a bad thing right?
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>>132136449
>Never said it was, it is an assault weapon. Legally it is defined as such.
The term "assault weapon" is a political term, not a technical term. It is whatever a legislative body wants it to be. For example, the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban defined an "assault weapon" as a semiautomatic rifle having three or more of the following features. A pistol grip, folding and/or collapsing stock, flash hinder, bayonet lug and detachable box magazine. It also included pistols with a magazine well in front of the trigger and that weighed 4 lbs or more. All AR15s manufactured from 1994 to 2004 were not legally "assault weapons" because they only had two.features, a detachable magazine and a pistol grip. California and New York both have different standards about what constitutes an assault weapon, which means the term is effectively useless from a technical standpoint. Terms like "assault rifle," "machine gun" or "submachine gun" have clear definitions agreed along by military and firearms experts. The definition of an "assault weapon" varies according to what state you're standing in at the time, which means it's effectively useless.
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>>132137798

Hahahahha

Limey. Limey living in an island infested with mudslime scum, talking shit to me. Baahahahahahahah.

Bend over for Achmed, faggot. Bend over for Sadiq.
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>>132137954
See I don't live in South Africa so I don't give a shit what their consitution is. But if you like their laws so much better go live there.
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>>132138183
Are you saying that killing is wrong if it's to protect your life?
That's what guns were designed for.
What's the problem with that?
If you throw shit logic at me I'll throw it back at you you despicable faggot.

I'm not from the US but Canada and see the flaws of not having the right to have a gun.
Want to trade place?
For fuck sake if you don't like leave.
It's not because you are born there that it's your country if you have fuck all to do with the ideas that lead to it.
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>>132138183
But someone might steal your car and use it to commit a crime. Mandatory car buy backs when? You can't even make a decent fucking argument you leftist piece of muff cabbage. I'm just going to leave it at this: come try and take them.
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>>132138183
tell that to every jihadist fuck who rams a truck into a crowd of people which has become a fucking regular occurrence in europe
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>>132138183
But automobiles and doctors kill a lot more people than firearms in the US every year.
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>>132132841
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>>132138618
>ad hom
>ad hom
>ad hom
Motherfucker I don't deny that this country's going down the drain but that doesn't explain why you are so unbelievably booty blasted.
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>>132134544
>aus
>salt

Subtly played 10/10 bait thread
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>>132132841
When the cops are 4 hours away you need a gun.
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Please explain to me why citizens should have access to offensive, insensitive free speech. Their is no need in a first world civilized country for any citizen to say what they believe. As a free speaking citizen myself, I propose a full ban on all non government media, followed by full re-education nationwide. After this point, I would implement LGBT, Race mixing, and Communist licenses that could be accessed after rigorous testing and evaluation (around perfect re-education scores). These would allow the expression of Racial mixing positivity posts, LBGT supremacy, and Communist justification threads.
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>>132137272
I dont eat burgers I eat steak and local caught fish.
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>guaranteed replies
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>>132132841

>when your life is so pathetic you have to argue about a dead issue in another country
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>>132134170
You have no business or right to tell me how I may or may not defend myself against Communists like you.
I want multiple magazines just in case you survive the first.
I want multiple friends with multiple magazines just in case your Commies friends are around.
You can get fucked.
You're anti-civil liberties and anti-American.
You are a traitor.
You are the reason I want a gun.
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>>132140188
>You have no business or right to tell me how I may or may not defend myself against Communists like you.
Ok schizo, you're the reason why I campaigned for Obama and Hillary. Scared white men cling to their guns as their time finally closes in. Sad!
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>>132137272
Sure... we believe you.

Amazing how you fail, like all libtards, to actually address the points you ridicule. Your arguments all boil down to "you so stupid".

God you people are such losers
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>>132140517
>t.Commie fuck who wants to subvert American liberties without getting shot like a dog in the street.
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>>132132986
Show your flag
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>>132140517
Not an argument. Basically, you're a pussy who is afraid of us and seeks artificial strength in the collective, hoping that it will provide you with the strength of character that you lack as an individual.

Understand that if left unchecked by people like me (and my guns), the leaders of your collectivist utopia will eventually enslave or eradicate you (see Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, etc.). You are nothing more than the useful idiot.
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>>132134006
Horribly obvious bait thread.
>SAGE
obviously...you need to go back.

Enjoy your life of being Jewish.
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Armed self defense is an immutable human right that may not be infringed. Even if you don't like people having guns, there is nothing you can do about it

Percieved danger is both subjective and irrelevant
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>>132132841
>There is no need in a first world civilized country
which is exactly why theyre needed in america
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>>132132986
show your flag pussyboi
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>>132132841
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>>132143818
>WELL-REGULATED MILITIA

that does not apply to you
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>>132132841
Piss off, beta.

Pic related.
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>>132143927
Every fighting age male US citizen is the militia.
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>>132144075
That is not a man. It's a male.
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>>132143927
>>the second amendment is supposed to be about millita

>No. No it's not. How ignorant of the English language do you have to be to believe that shit?

>A well balanced breakfast being necessary to the start of a good day, the right of the people to keep and eat food shall not be infringed.

>Who has the right to keep and eat food? The well-balanced breakfast, or the people?

>This is exactly the structure of the 2nd amendment, so either the well-balanced breakfast has the right to keep and eat food, or the milita isn't what the 2nd amendment is about.
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>>132132841
>Muh slave holding white man
Don't make me laugh nigger lover, most of those slaves we took from Africa were sold to us by Africans and those slaves that we bought were war criminals, thieves, murders, and other types criminals so basically in there minds we were doing them a favor. Fast forward 200 years later these free niggers of America are nothing more but descendants of African criminals chimping out on our soil still committing crime. I guess crime really does run through their blood, somethings never change.
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>>132145134
>most of those slaves we took from Africa were sold to us by Africans and those slaves that we bought were war criminals, thieves, murders, and other types criminals
source?
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>>132145311
>>132145134
the latter part not the former
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>>132132841
Come and take it faggot.

Safe for a shitty pasta bait thread.
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>>132145356
>Ruling classes also punished subjects for criminal activity by selling them as
slaves.2"

>Oft-times the source of slaves would be based on raiding other African tribes or villages to either conquer the territory of another group of people or as a means of financial support for the individual.29 In other instances, tribal or ethnic groups cast out members of the community and into slavery as a form of
excommunication.

>Traders emerged from many areas, and included members of the Songhai and Mali empires,33 the people of Ghana, and the Berbers of West Africa.34 Additionally, Muslim-Arab merchants contributed to this trade throughout North Africa.35 The Arabs' conquest of North Africa in order to spread the religion of Islam, as well as the development of caravan routes, also supported the Trans-Saharan slave trade.36 The Trans-Saharan slave trade routes extended from the northeastern portion of Africa and continued westward to trade points in Nigeria.

Force was being used to procure slaves only in the beginning of the colonization period. After the market became big enough, the larger African tribes proceeded to sell their own people in order to get various valorous items from the white people - and to impose their own version of power projection over the African continent.
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>>132132841
"slave holding white men".... how about you sir are a piece of shit.
Go ahead get rid of all your guns, but don't expect the rest of us to follow your stupidity.
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>>132132841
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>>132132841
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>>132146737
>he fell for the .40 meme
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>>132132841
>criminal goes to rob you
>call police
>police comes 30 minutes later
your shit has been stolen and you've been beaten up or something
>robber goes into house
>you grab a gun and shoot him
>all your shit is safe now, and you saved the life of your family
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>>132132986
what a cute lil pup
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>>132147359

So did the po-leese and they have no trouble as far as I can see. The police .40 is the reason people "just turn't they life aroun'" is a meme.
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>>132149274
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>>132149362
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>>132132841
>arbitrary round capacities

KILL YOURSELF.
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>>132132841
>No one cares about that 200 year old piece of paper written by slave holding white men.

except the supreme court and every public official who takes an oath to defend it?
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>>132132841
>dangerous
Oh look, a leftist afraid that his weak mind will cause him to misuse weapons and because he's a leftist, he thinks everybody else is just like him! Sigh.
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>>132132841
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NEVER let jews take your guns!
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>>132132841

Because niggers and spics wanna kill me.
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>>132132841
property rights, faggot.

sage.
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Here in America, any citizen is free to walk into a gun show and use the loopholes to buy machine guns with no background checks. That is not normal.

All guns need to be banned. No guns in the world.
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>I need a gun

Why?

>To protect myself from guns

But apparently guns are not an issue though kek
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>>132132841
>Please explain to me why any citizen should have access to dangerous, semi auto guns
Not any citizen, leftists and mentally ill people shouldn't have guns.

Next thread?
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>>132152825
If nobkdy had guns everything would be fine. Everyone should be equal.
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>>132152825
The next thread is going to be about how much you are going to suck cocks. Are you sure you want to end this thread so soon?
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>>132152966
>>132152518
Nope. All of that, nope.
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>>132152693
Lol why you guys so jelly? your government cucks you hard. Being able to hit a target is a pretty good feeling. Having the founding fathers of your nation say that it's cool to do that no matter what is an even better feeling.
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Americans should be given more guns and be allowed to shoot freely
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>>132152693
>you need to hand in your gun
why?
>so i can protect you from guns

hmm
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>>132152693
I can go to home depot and purchase the necessary materials to make a shotgun, as short and concealable as a I want. I can then make black powder out of my piss and purchasable materials, and fill the barrel with steal ball bearings. I can then go impose my will on someone else through threats of violence, all through legally purchasable materials that cannot be banned. You can't get rid of the idea of a gun, only make sure you're adequately prepared to deal with a show of force.
also,
>I need fists
why?
>to protect myself from fists
silly citizen, you don't need fists!
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>>132153385
They have giveaways at gun shows, no background checks, just by your ticket and go home with a machine gun for free. Gun shows need to be banned.
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>>132152966
Guns are the equalizer, unless you think you can fend off 5 hungry jamals in the wild without one. And even if you can, can your granny?
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>>132132841
>>132132841
to anyone posting in this thread without saging, please explain why you fall for the same faggotry 3 times a day that this asshole OP posts? this is literal copy pasta posted every day, multiple times a day, by faggots
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>>132132841

cold dead hands motherfucker
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>>132132841
The right to own a weapon protects every other right you have, because an armed populace is able to enforce its rights through armed resistance and revolt. It's why Hideki Tojo wouldn't even entertain the notion of invading mainland America; he'd have to deal with 200 million armed insurgents waiting around every corner.

>but muh tanks and drones
Civilians can own tanks and ammunition if they pay taxes on them, and tanks/drones/nukes can't enforce a police state. Furthermore, the US Army is singularly fucking terrible at combating guerilla warfare.

Additionally, every country that disarmed its population followed up with ethnic cleansing: I'd trust the Bosnians on this one, who dig up their guns every time someone threatens to take them away, because they had to deal with that shit twice.

>but muh crime rates, muh UK, germany, sweden
Switzerland has the second-highest gun ownership rate in the world, after the US, and has one of the lowest crime rates in the world. Unlike the US, Switzerland is mostly ethnically homogeneous. Further, in what sense are those countries NOT being ethnically cleansed?

>but muh Japan
Is actually inhabited by decent human beings, rather than niggers and communists.
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>>132132841
>No one cares about that 200 year old piece of paper written by slave holding white men.
Laws that deemed it illegal to murder people were passed far before the constitution; and the people who wrote those rules held slaves. Assuming you're against the ownership of semi-automatic weaponry because of gun violence, and you think the constitution is invalid because it's old, your argument makes no sense because the law concerning your concern is even older than the law you're trying to invalidate because its old.
Fuck off.
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>>132132841
>It's difficult to manufacture a high powered firearm in your garage.

(((Government))) control is not the answer, subhuman.
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>>132132841
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
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>>132132841
Next time you need to dispose of a tyranny gov. or dictator (it will eventually happen as history tends to repeat itself), how will you overthrow the oppressive forces if they have automatic rifles and you have handguns...

2nd amendment was written such that the people will always be able to take back control from oppression gov.
your forefathers were subject to just that and wanted you to have a fighting chance when it happens again. don't be so hasty to neglect their teachings.
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>>132153733
Because there's new people here every day that have no idea that what they say is false. They need to know.
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>>132132841 (OP) #
Well, how else are supposed to defend your self against heavily armed thugs who don't care what the law says?
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>MUH GUNS MUH FREEDOMS

I don't understand guns. Yes they are cool and I'm sure fun to shoot, but Americans clearly can't be trusted with them as there are so many killing by guns.

So I think guns should be legal, but only for people that can be trusted with them, so not Americans
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>>132155246
This: Shills and shitposters are how /pol/ produces antibodies.

>>132155370
Pop quiz: What section of the American population commits ~90% of gun homicides?
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>>132132841
having no arms leads to victimization, legal citizens having arms in contrast reinforces the societal decency because those who violate it face bodily harm.

To make giving up arms feasible you need to live in a city where police is always just a few blocks away. But you will have citydrones with bystander effect as a result of that kind of environment.
In the end you're always giving up power over your fate.
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>>132132841
I need a gun to put a bullet in your head.
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>>132155492
Niggers. Also this my glawk foe tay. Dis my prollemsolvent righ hurr
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>>132137476
>semi auto revolvers
Wut?
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>>132155492
Black are Americans still. Whites are school shooters
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>>132132841
Because of Democrats.

We are keeping out guns.

Go fuck yourself.
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>>132152693
If someone has a knife, or club or something, or if I'm outnumbered, I still want a gun.
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>>132155693
he fell for the 40 meme. what's wrong? mommy wouldn't let you get the 10mm?
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>>132134785
Nigger I've been vetted one classification below Yankee White. Who the fuck are you to determine what my rights are? We have been over this every day. We don't have a gun problem. We have a nigger problem. You want to stop gun violence kick all of the brown people out of every white country and watch it plummet.
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>>132132841
English must not be your first language since you don't understand what SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED means
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>>132132841
>Please explain to me why any citizen should have access to dangerous, semi auto guns.

To shoot multiple niggers who break into my house you kike shill motherfucker.
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>>132152693
Just look what happened in Australia 10 years after their gun ban. Assaults rose by 49%, rape rose by 29%. In those ten years, Australia's violent crime rate rose by 42% and the US violent crime rate dropped by 32%.

http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/?Article_ID=17847
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>>132132841
>templar flag hates guns
you forgot to switch out your flag you fucking retard
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>>132132841
>no one cares about that 200 year old piece of paper
by this logic, should we not follow the 13th amendment either?
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>>132157957
I'd be much happier if we got rid of the 19th.
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>>132132841
because im not bruce lee and im not letting niggers and mudslims do any raping on my watch.... for real you fucking pussy as cuck mother fuckers.... what are you gonna do if a group of people want to hurt you and your family.... just bend over and take it

jesus fucking zombie christ you people have lost your will for self preservation

kill yourselves now
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>>132153613
There is no loophole you fucking idiot. If they give or sell a gun at a gun show without a background check that's plain illegal and you're free to call the cops on their ass. To begin with that shit NEVER happens at gun shows anyway.
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>>132140517
Sad indeed.
I'm willing to defend myself against anti-civil liberty Commies like you.
And it bothers you.
Now remember that I'm not the only one wiling to defend myself against traitorous Commies like you.
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>>132132841
>Please explain to me why any citizen should have access to dangerous semi auto firearms.

Huh? Why should any government official have acces to dangerous semi auto firearms. I mean, you do know that a government official is just a citizen dressed up in different clothes, right?
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>>132132841
Let me explain this to you in a way you can understand, faggot.

YOU WILL NEVER GET OUR GUNS. If you try, we will fucking annihilate you.

Have a great day.
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>>132132841
I have one word for you sir, niggers.
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>>132132897
True that.
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>>132132841
a loaded cylinder off a blackpowder revolver is more dangerous than the modern pistol and you won't ever touch the antiques because that means you're going after everything

given that the antiques you can't touch for fear of being hung as a traitor are more dangerous in general practice than modern cartridged semiautomatics, it's immensely foolish to attempt to regulate them, that is autoloaders, in any way but the most superficial and frivolous of means that merely highly inconvenience firearms operators and get them grumble about all the shit they'll do to you and your dog, because you aren't married and are medically incapable of siring a child, when you come after the inviolables.

so, what'll it be? ineffective regulation and kiddie gloved taxes? or admitting to being an enemy of the state? or perhaps we can act like grownups and teach all the kiddies of America to handle firearms with respect, reverence, and duty while we all enjoy ice cream sundaes?
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>>132133880
You have a rifle worth trillions of dollars? That's awesome! Can we see it?
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>>132136392
Underrated post
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>>132132841
shit post but a shit flaghag

pol is really circling the drain these days
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>>132132841
The gun is an equalizer among the base of the US. It allows for people to defend themself properly reguardless of their stature, class, or any other identity. No one opens their mouth when a gun prevents a store robbery, or prevents a rape, or prevents someone's death, but everyone loses their minds when the mentially ill find a poorly secured firearm and shoot a place up. Guns are tools, and they are only as good or bad as the user.
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>>132132841
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>>132155784
https://enDOTwikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_revolver
They are a thing
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>>132152331
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>>132132841
Go back to elementary school kid
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>>132167948
Not an argument.
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>>132132841
Because fuck you that's why. If we need to rise against the government, we are prepared. It keeps the government scared shitless. It keeps them in line.
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>>132166387
I would like a gun to defend myself, but I don't want retards to have guns.
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>>132132841
Reposting the same thread several times is against the rules and can get you a ban.
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fuck you that's why
>>
to protect your family and property, let niggers kill each.
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>>132170929
>to protect your family and property, let niggers kill each.
*each other
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I may think all guns need to be banned. But can we please agree that the gunshow loophole needs to end. You can buy a machine gun with no background checks.
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because a lot of people own property or ranches myself included and when you have a dozen coyotes or even birds fucking up with your crops or animals you shoot them lil fuckers. also because of niggers in the US or cartels here that's why no one fucks with the Mennonites here
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>>132132897
Fpbp
Thanks leaf
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>>132136392
Wasted of a post anon.
He's bait or a totalitarian collectivist shithead.

>OMG WHY DON'T YOU WANT TO GIVE THE STATE THE POWER TO CONTROL YOUR LIFE? ARE YOU A BIGOT NAZI?
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>>132172713
>You can buy a machine gun with no background checks.
I wish.
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>>132140517
How much of fucking failures were your parents to raise such a dumb little traitorous piece of filth like you?

Kill yourself, commie fuck.
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>>132168798
That's how freedom works. It has drawbacks.
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>200-year-old piece of paper written by white men

It's actually 227 years since it's ratification, but you're just a shill so why would you know anything about what you are talking about.
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>Bill of needs

Oh I'm laffin.
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>>132172713
>gunshow loophole
>shows pellet gun replica model

heres a real pellet gun to use at home

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHAft26yh_0
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>>132132841
So they can kill people, you retard.
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>>132140517
>I campaigned for Obama and Hillary
So, you ignore all facts and evidence in relation to economics and history too. Figures. I want forced deportation for faggots like you. Go live in that shit-hole that your fellow leftist are turning Western Europe into. Leave the USA if you don't want to be personal responsible for dangerous things that challenge your retarded fucking mind.
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>>132132841
Kill yourself you dumb nigger
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"Need" is not defined in The Constitution but it is in communist doctrine. Enough said.
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Revolvers *are* semi automatic handguns.
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>>132180334
No.
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>>132180334
Repeaters does not equal semiauto but I know what you mean
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>>132132841
>There is no need in a first world civilized country for any citizen to own semi auto firearms.
You're right, we need them to be full auto in order to fight a tyrannical government when they pit the military against us.
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>>132132841
>Please explain to me why any citizen should have access to dangerous, semi auto guns.
Or would you prefer they get raped?
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>>132132841
>you don't care about the constitution
this is why we need guns.

Guns are essential for the protection of the freedom of the people against anything that would try to impose radical reform, or otherwise threaten the rights or balance of power the people have in our nation.

It serves as a deterrent to crime, and allows citizens to take justice into their own hands when government-funded law enforcement fails.

The wide proliferation of firearms ensures the American citizen's safety against revolution, civil unrest and against foreign threats, since a resistance can be easily armed, and militias can be easily organized.

The government cannot enact wildly unpopular laws without armed resistance. That means they either have to be really clever about gaining power, or earn the trust of citizens. Either way, it's a check.

Guns are great, they're fun, and it lets any citizen enjoy everything nature can offer to a hunter, and indeed lots of Americans enjoy hunting. More enjoy simply owning and shooting guns, competing with them, and just becoming proficient in shooting them.
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>>132134170
>revolvers
this is how we know you're noguns, fucking commie Leaf
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>>132132841
I like to keep them around just in case i need to shoot a faggot like you OP
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>>132132841
There is no need for assistance a first world country to own semi automatic weapons, or cars to go too fast, or computer that can encrypt too well, or houses they build themselves, or etc etc

Citizens just can't be trusted with anything that could be considered dangerous.

Better to just eliminate the possibility of anything bad ever happening again.
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