>there are people not choosing STEM major in college and chose

>>132128878
Not everyone is an amerilard.

Great thread, faggot.

>>132128878
Isn't STEM about to become one of those meme brackets that absolutely oversaturates its respective labour market?

>>132128878
Majored in a social science, working as an engineer. Cheers.

>>132131062
haha no
we have so many tech jobs in my area that we have to resort to importing poos and chinks that barely speak english just to fill the open positions

meanwhile, humanities grads have to work as clerks and cashiers in stores

>>132131394
Engineering is starting to get saturated. I've seen the starting pay for those jobs go down. Not to mention a lot of companies in my area are starting to hire technicians(still working under a few engineers) over engineers.

>>132128878
Not all STEM. I'm unemployed with a bachelor's in chemistry. I should have done an easier major with more social networking instead of this useless degree.

>>132128878
>going to college
fuck off hippie

>>132131758
same 2bh

I have a physics degree and I wish I studied literature

>>132131682
It's over-saturated because they import shitskins with h1b visas and pay them peanuts.

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>>132128878
I'm an EE student. Don't fuck with me

>>132132894
EE is like the whitest thing ever...don't need to worry

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>>132133005
wtf im white now

>>132133154
Might as well be: https://datausa.io/profile/cip/1410/#grads_ethnicity_gender

>>132128878

STEM has been ruined by the H1B program.

I have a masters in Electrical engineering from the university of California.

>be me advanced degree STEM masterrace
>take second job as food server cause only make living wage.
>meet girl I like there
>she has a boyfriend
>she talks about him being a great provider . He collects tips at a fancy restaurant
> realize he makes as much as I do programming robot to measure signal integrity.
> my supposed advantage over him as a richfag is btfo.

Tfw went to school for 7 years and took out $35,000 in loans to get owned by a waiter .

>>132131682
>Engineering is starting to get saturated

By the H1B program. If those millions of Indians and chinks hadn't been imported we'd make as much as doctors.

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>Study STEM, there's guaranteed to be a gray little cubicle with your name on it.

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>Journalism major in college
>Studied webdev on my own
>Did important marketing certs on my own
>Got tons of internships in college and in every one of them I threw my heart and soul into
>Now make six figures in marketing

STEM is only part of the equation. You gotta have a good attitude, good networking skills, a drive to better yourself, and a drive to constantly learn new skills.

college is not job training

>>132132712
Yeah. At a certain point, I feel like travelling the world on volunteer missions to wait for American UBI instead of starting over.

>>132134257
This anon speaks the truth.

>>132128878
if you're going to do liberal arts, you better do another professional schooling after.. like law

>>132128878
STEM is saturated, too many people, too many indians
Choose trade school, a experienced underwater welder can make up to 80k a year, huge machinery operator makes sweet money too, it's manly jobs full of right wing people, you won't find faggy lefties like you will in STEM

>not becoming a doctor
>not making a ton of money doing rewarding work while also getting bitches as one of society's most respected professions
Yeesh

>>132133428
>t. UC Riverside

>>132134002
That's all I ever wanted but that's too much to expect these days

>>132138283
The biggest fear here is the industry becoming like pharmacy. I'm done with risks for now, too jaded.

>>132128878
>Shitting on humanities
It's like you don't even respect Jordan Peterson

>>132128878
It really doesn't matter, though. All jobs will be gone within 20 years due to automation/AI.

>mfw EE about to graduate and turning down job offers

with an engi degree here, you have to be retarded to not get a job, even if you can't find one within ur specialization they're always hiring code monkeys

>>132128878
>there are people who don't understand the IQ bell curve means that not everyone has the mental capacity to major in a STEM subject and those that can still risk being overlooked in favor of a Chinese or Indian (out of the 2.5 billion to choose from) who is not only objectively more intelligent but paid much less for their STEM degree and is more than willing to work harder for less money

STEM is a meme and telling average people to go $20 in debt to get engineering degrees or become programmers is a giant fucking mistake

>>132140406
see
>>132140740

Outsourcing, AI, and automation make long-term job prospects dim. None of these jobs last.

>>132131823
>not going to college
Fuck off poorfag

>>132131062
Tech jobs grow faster than they are filled actually

>>132140920
yeah about the time fusion is viable as well...
anyways STEM jobs will still be the last ones to go

>>132140406

just enough time for you to earn up a fortune before apocalypse.

>>132134257
>marketing certs
like what?

>study gender studies
>get paid less than STEM
>muh wage gap

>>132140852
In Sweden the biggest market in IT is in software development. Probably 60-70% of all job ads in that field is for programmers.

I think a degree in Transgender social media marketing with a minor in bull-dyke scissoring is the way to go.

S M H that STEM is literally a meme now.

>>132128878
you idiot, it's STEAM now.

https://steamedu.com/

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>>132128878
How would STEM help me with a criminal justice degree? I want to be a under over DEA agent. I'm too ugly for the FBI. Yes. That's a thing.

>>132128878
Can anyone learn programming even if they suck at math?

Also, how to get better at math

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>>132128878
>So low IQ can't learn anything without (((them))) teaching you.

>(((Education)))
>(((School)))

Keep sucking (((cock))) good goy cog, your destruction is sealed.

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I'm too brainlet for stem

>>132128878
There are people paying money and going into debt to become permanently overqualified for the only jobs that cant be outsourced to india

>>132131394
>resort to
Its not 'resort to', its they are willing to work cheaper, and also provide diversity points.

>>132142430
you get good @ programming by practicing, get a good C book and start doing the book exercises (in your pc ofc). After that just check some CS uni programs and follow the same path as they do.

>>132128878
>muh STEM
t. reddit

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I have a BS in biology. After I graduated, I didn't know what to do. So, I enrolled at a different college to study medical lab science. Now, I'm about to graduate in August as a med lab tech and I have a job lined up at a hospital that will start me off at $24/hr. With both of my degrees, I could apply to a physician assistant program.
I might just do that, but maybe 2 years from now.

>>132142676
this goy is right, people get (((higher education))) for connections, not knowledge
you can find any of that on the internet nowadays

Is Medschool STEM?

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>>132141357
Good question. It depends on what field you're going into. I'm what's called a full stack marketer. That means I can do the creative, business and technical side of marketing.

A couple I'd recommend if you're looking to get in the game are:

>Google AdWords
>Google Analytics IQ (VERY important)
>Hubspot Inbound
>Facebook Blueprint
>Infinite Excel Skills
>Webdev (I did the udemy boot camp, it cost me $10)
>SalesForce Trailheads (you have NO IDEA how many major corporations have no idea how to run their own SalesForce)
>Some kind of SEO cert as well

Big bucks tier:
>AWS high level certification of some kind

Many of these are free, and are extremely useful in marketing. Good luck bro!

>>132143442
>>132142676
Good luck becoming a mathematician/physicist/engineering/anything noteworthy in life without a degree.

>inb4 muh trades

Yeah yeah yeah, enjoy breathing in insulation for 40 years and getting capped at $25/hour

>>132143626
Thank you for your reply! I'll give a look to all this stuff.

>>132144074
i'm a high school dropout with 1 semester of college algebra. $60k/y salary at my day job for a structural engineering firm, and $5-20k extra each year from contract programming work at $36/h.

guess i have good luck, or somebody is looking out for me.

>>132144545
If I'm honest 60k for any engineering job is a pretty low number, why is that?

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>>132144422
No problem bro. I did many of these when I came home from work in college. If you want to really focus your time, and only do a few major ones, there are the ones I think are most valuable:

>Google Analytics IQ
>Hubspot Inbound
>SEO of some kind (there are many of these)

If you want to see why: https://blog.ladder.io/marketing-certifications/

These are really not that hard. They don't require tons of math, but you should be taking notes during your courses. I bought a notebook one summer and completely filled it while grinding certs

Oh, and don't be afraid to start networking now. Do some certs and reach out to local business, offering to do marketing for them for minimum wage. It's a good way to build experience

>>132128878
>muh college
>muh everyone must be a sciantist
learn a trade and get a fucking job you hippie

>>132144973
>produce the greatest mathematicians and philosophers of all time
>tell people it's a meme

fucking Greece, pay denbts

>>132142893
Don't be discouraged, we all start somewhere. I started math classes in Algebra 2 in community college 4 years ago, I have now finished the whole math tree (up to calc 3, ode, linear) and physics tree. Transferring to a uni this fall

>>132145475
who are you quoting?

>>132144698
you're not being completely honest. $60k is median pay for professional structural engineers.

i'm not even an engineer. :^)

>>132143477
No, its also a valid pursuit, unlike STEMfags. You cant learn how to operate on wikipedia.

>>132145633
Oh, so structural engineer is just another example of misused nomenclature then

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>>132145499
so what, you're gonna do 8 years + of ((college)) after 15 years (might be less in merica) of pre/middle/high school for an undergrads...
Time well spent anon.
>time well spent...

>>132145947
no, it isn't. reread my original post.

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>>132144074
>Yeah yeah yeah, enjoy breathing in insulation for 40 years and getting capped at $25/hour
People with trades Have a higher percentage of self unemployment than most college graduates. plumbing companies in major cities often pull in more than a million dollars a year. As a small business. Hell you can become a chief from trade school. Sought-after executive chefs can easily make over $100,000 per year.

>>132146071
Cool image and all, but why work a fucking horrid demeaning labourous job for a *chance* at doing just -okay- when you could just study engineering and be guaranteed the same benefits with much greater growth potential?

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>>132146310
Because you can become your own boss though trades Self employment makes you a self made man that don't have ton answer to anyone but a tax collector. Plus giving your money to colleges will help Marxist professors.

>>132146056
I only took long because I was a shitty student. I like to think I improved over time. Besides, my fees were waived the whole time, and most books I found online pdfs. I rarely spent a dime at community college.

>>132147085
still, should gone trades - any prospective employer will take one look at your cv and laugh. Not to late senpai, join marines and do a trade or just go straight trades.

>>132147710
>join marines
If he a poor student who went to school for 8 years. He probably too old to enlist in the marines.

I'm a civil engineer who graduated in 2013 and have been unemployed since. what is your point OP?

>>132147959
>Civil

Well there you go lad. Civil Mechanical and Aero are all dying.

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>>132128878
>(((stem)))

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I'm in engineering right now but I don't feel like I have the IQ for it. It saddens me but maybe I'll scrape by with lots of hard work.

>>132141082
This, major issue with there not being enough jobs for stem positions, kind of like a rate of change increases the rate of change type of situation, leading to a deficit

Trades is killing my body

Framer

What about Classics or philosophy? Surely these are not useless.

>>132148348
civil engineers are employed in every city in the united states to prepare plans for building sites, roads, highways, and interstates, bridges, retaining walls, reservoirs, levees, dams, retention ponds, etc.

if you really believe that a person can go to school for 4-8 years to get an engineering degree and get a promising job with unlimited potential, then you are completely out of touch with how most of the united states small businesses operate.

not only do professional engineers have to spend at least 4 years as interns before they can even test to become professional engineers--and a VERY large percentage of those interns fail their PE licensing tests--many get stuck in cubicle-grade jobs checking calculations for minor parts of larger jobs, and aren't actually doing anything more than behaving like trained technicians who operate analysis software specifically designed to make their monotonous assembly-line-type jobs even more monotonous and unrewarding.

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>>132128878
STEM is middle class tier. It's a good career for anyone with IQs between 110 and 135.

Smarter people should do politics (sales, management, marketing) 100% of the time.

>>132148787
>if you really believe that a person can go to school for 4-8 years to get an engineering degree and get a promising job with unlimited potential
to clarify, i meant "be guaranteed a promising job with unlimited potential".

Can't get enough of these brainlets convincing themselves that STEM is intellectually on par or even fucking superior to the humanities.

>>132128878
>Be me
>Major in English
>Get hired because I knew the CEO

hahaha degrees are pointless unless you have connections.

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>>132131758

Sell your services on the deep web. There mite tree stump removal, etc.

>>132148721
...

I just want to get out of construction. I'm surrounded by criminals and foreigners

>>132128878
I was too dumb for STEM so I went into business.

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>>132134257
Fuck you, I blame the Jews.

>>132148721
My girlfriend majored in classics and did quite well for herself. She got a full ride for PhD at NYU and is now teaching in Minnesota

>>132148721
the problem is the modern university student only thinks about a degree in dollar signs. universities were never supposed to be "degree x nets you job y." sometimes studying classics, philosophy, and literature is just about cultivating knowledge. but neck beards in STEM think life revolves around getting a high paying job. modern psychology has already debunked the idea that high salary = happiness.

>>132137235
80k is poorfag tier in the Bay area. Takes at least 180k a year to buy a house in a White area near jobs

>>132131758
>>132132712

Chemistry and chemical engineering here. Oil market crashed right before graduation and now I'm going back to school

>>132149541
Prohint:
She fucks one of her black students after class

>>132149909
gives new meaning to "full ride"

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This is why people shit on us STEM-fags. Stop being so autistic and try to appreciate the value contributions in arts, philosophy and literature have made to society. Just because it got infiltrated and kiked up it doesn't mean those fields are inheritely bad. We would be nowhere without our culture. Hell even the führer was an artist.

t. Math and comp sci fag

>>132150093
Kek
His gf loves the BBC

>>132149541
I should, though, add this: She spent 9 years in school with a 4.0 her entire time doing aSHITLOAD of extracurriculars and makes less than I do when I majored in Computer Eng. and just twiddled my dick around for 4 years and I started off making 96k in Redmond

So moneywise, yes, classics is pretty useless

>>132146310
Also engineering is getting reemed with SJW and leftist shit, at least tech is. Lefty managers just pawning all the work to fucking white males isn't exactly a fulfilling career

>>132150156

Correct. I am a STEM man through and through (my first toy was a calculator, now currently a Mathematician). Drives me insane listening to people whine about ``muh bank account'' while not taking in culture, nature, family, etc that make life meaningful.

Read fucking books, stop listening to degenerate soulless music. If you can't appreciate classical at least listen to something with more complexity than fucking top 40 pop music. Watch non-degenerate movies, learn a second/third/fourth language, study philosophy, take a serious interest in sports, go on hikes, hunt, etc. /Rant

>>132148787
This right here is why I trashed my Electrical Engineering hopes I had right out of high school and eventually went into I.T.

It simply isn't worth it, really. You have to work your ass off royally to even get a decent paying engineering job, then the rest of your life you can double check some asshole's work while you get fat in your cubicle.

I.T. is so much better. I was getting paid 54k in my last job in a very low cost of living city in the midwest, which lets me go on vacation all the time, invest in cryptos, have a nice apartment, and go out every weekend. The barriers to entry for I.T. jobs are so much lower, you don't even necessarily need a college degree. Right now I've been taking the last 4 months off totally, because I fucking feel like it. Try it sometime, it's so fucking nice. Even now, I still have recruiters calling me up every other day with new job offers. Am interested in this one DevOps position that looks pretty damn sweet and future-proofed.

TL;DR, fuck engineering and science, learn Linux and Networking.

>>132152398
I.T. will die off when all of the old boomers die. IT and basic programming will be the next "proficient in Microsoft word" in 20 years.

>>132152950
I.T. has been changing for 20 yeas and it will continue to. I welcome it. If I wanted a field where my skillset will be static for my entire career I wouldn't have done this. That sounds horribly boring, desu.

>>132153136
This. Cloud, dev ops, and big data are the big 3 coming up in the future. Security is still good too.

>>132144074
>My mental and physical capacity is molded and bound to (((civilization))). I am a slave, I obey my masters and die leaving nothing but a slot to be filled by another good goy.

Excellent

>>132155577
Been studying all of those. And yeah, Security is (nfortunately) being filled up with HACKERZZZ wannabes. All the CCNA Security, CEH classes at my community college are chock full.

Bright side? They didn't even offer the VMware training class (that would've have gotten you VCP-DCV cert) because nobody except me and one other person signed up. That's a market skills shortage right there.

>>132131062
>about to
It already is. I could not recommend most STEM fields to a freshman college student today. The job market will be dead by the time he would graduate.

>>132155971
>im a cool edgy antiJew rebel because im too stupid to into STEM

keep collecting those neetBUX and further draining white society you fuckin dork

>>132156627
NOTE: if Trump were to end the H1B program and send them all back, this would change. STEM would be a viable career choice for a long time.

>>132156627
>MIC not always needing engineers

Lol faggot. We're always hiring.

>>132151424
I think the critique is about entry level employment more than anything. No one here is undervaluing the progress of mankind.

>>132156989
>hurr hurr hurr we're always hiring
That's the meme. The reality is that a lot of STEM graduates are sitting at home a year or more after graduation. Starting pay is going down and is also falling behind real (not gov fudged) inflation. India and China are increasing the number of STEM graduates each year. They may be shit, but U.S. middle management can't tell the difference and loves the bottom line. And while Trump promised he would do something about h1b, it hasn't happened yet.

It just seems good because it's still better than a lot of other alternatives. But it's already well on the down slope. On top of that, we are absolutely looking at another .com bubble burst, I would say within the next 2-4 years.

Again, ending h1b would be a huge swing in the right direction for American STEM graduates. But we have yet to see if that's going to happen.

I'll let you in on another red pill: published unemployment rates are a lie and there are not enough jobs for Americans even if Trump sends everyone back.

Red pill #3? This is partly due to automation which is only increasing.

>>132156666
>6666

>Neetbux

No, I follow the way of my ancestors.

>>132156778

LMAO.

Name a better Career path retard.

>>132156666
>further draining white society

Read this

https://archive.fo/ZM3sc

>According to the data derived from the 2014 federal budget, the average annual net tax/benefit broke down as follows:

- White: -$2,795

- Black: +$10,016

>Over the course of an average 79-year lifespan, a white individual contributes a net $220,805 to the system, whereas over the course of an average 75-year lifespan, a black individual receives a net $751,200. However, since there are 4.6 times more whites than blacks in the USA, the black share has to be divided among the various contributors to sort out a one-to-one comparison.

>So, the net cost to the average White American of the average Black American is $384,109. Married? That's $768,218. Got 2 kids? That's $1,536,436. 4 kids? Now we're talking $2,304,654 lifetime.

>Diversity is expensive. Now you understand why you won't have much of an inheritance to leave to your children. Do you really think it's worth it? And then, those natural conservatives to the south, the Hispanics, will surely improve the situation, right? After all, immigration helps the economy! Well, not so much.

- Hispanic: +7,298

>In fact, because there are more Hispanics in the USA than Blacks, Hispanics are already a bigger cumulative net drain on the economy, $411,950,000,000 to $389,710,000,000. Needless to say, the ongoing demographic change from a predominantly white society to a less productive, less white one can be expected to have even more serious negative effects on the long-term economic prospects of the United States that it already has.
If whites want to drop out of the system and hasten it's demise, that's fine. As long as they work towards building systems that don't contribute to the massive transfer of wealth away from white america.

>>132128878
because of IQ, you can't finish a CS degree without having an IQ of at least in the top 10 percentile.

Your options are - either lower stem standards in which case a stem degree won't mean anything, or put low iq people in SJW classes.

Either way, this whole college thing is just a bunch of people not understanding causation and correlation.

>>132158159
>Name a better Career path retard.
There are a number of trades that are in higher demand right now. Though I think nursing is heading for saturation as well, right now nurses are finding employment BEFORE graduation day. And the boomers are only getting older.

Being a Dr. is a pain in the ass and arguably not worth it unless you choose a highly profitable niche. But if you do choose such a niche, you are gold.

Dentistry is another field where you will be employed, period.

>>132159076
>because of IQ, you can't finish a CS degree without having an IQ of at least in the top 10 percentile.
>actually believing this
Schools are graduating midwits with CS degrees every year.

>Your options are - either lower stem standards in which case a stem degree won't mean anything,
This has already happened at most schools.

>>132145584
Roses are red
Violets are blue
To pay back debts
I encourage you

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>>132128878
Finance/economics and law isn't STEM but very good majors too. Also Medicine isn't STEM either and still one of the best career choices one can make.

STEMcucks just wish to have the social status other high paying majors have, that's why they create those "anything but STEM is shit" threads and engage in STEM circlejerks.

>>132131062
>>132131062
Yes

STEM has enough workers and some fields like EEs dont even experience ANY growth. Companies shill STEM because they want to flood the market and pay lower wages

Im not surprised that pol swallowed the pill

>>132159673
This, if I.T. does get flooded and my crypto shit goes to hell, I'll just say fuck it and go for intellectual property/patent law.

>>132156361
Yeah, forgot to mention virtualization as well

Basically if you can keep ahead of the curve as far as IT you should be fine

You don't want to turn into one of those mainframe guys that thought their job would be fine in the 90s/00s

>>132159088

LOL. I think you know you are full of shit.

Nurse wages are poverty tier. You get treated like shit by both doctors and patients. I know this because I have family doing it currently.

Anyone with any talent goes into stem. Simple.

>>132128878
all wagecuck degrees are memes, Buffet, Jobs, Gates, and almost half the billionaires never had any college degree
It's either you become the master or you become the slave

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I've always had an interest for History, Literature, Sociology, Religion, subjects like these. I want to focus on these so that I can hopefully get into a good university (for all my swedebros: Lund-tier universites).

Is this a good plan or a bad plan. If you study enough History to become a proffesor would you get equal/better pay than what you would get as a STEM person would?

Bonus question: Is computer engineering relavent these days? If so can you get a sustainable career off of it?

>>132131126
>>>132128878 (OP)
>Majored in a social science, working as an engineer. Cheers.
sanitation engineer maybe

>>132160678
Also, is having a career as a teacher really as bad as it is?

>>132160678

Consult this paper. Page 18

http://www.suttontrust.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Earnings-by-Degrees-REPORT.pdf

>>132159673
>Three things that will get automated in 10-20 years

>>132128878
One of the most competitive fields. Don't fall for the STEM meme, you're in no way guaranteed a job.
Learn a trade or take up an apprenticeship instead.

>>132134257
This, these faggot who have stem degrees and no job are faggot who wasted a perfect networking opportunity.
For stem degrees large universities don't provide the education, they provide networking resources for people like me, when I get to that point on my degree I'm not going to blow it.

>>132134257
Also on the certs thing. Certifications ok anything you are majoring is huge. I'm majoring in geology and I know minoring GIS (and certs) I'm way ahead of the game.

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STEM is so last decade. It's now STEAM.

You fuckers that can't hack STEM can still sell Insurance.

>>132161208
You're disillusioned if you think you're safe from automation because you have a stem degree.
When an AI can, if ever automate a finance analyst, surgeon or lawyer it will likely able to automate a computer scientist and an engineer too.

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>>132161662

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>>132161214
ironic that whatever so called Trade you have in mind will probably automated in the near future.

https://willrobotstakemyjob.com/

Trades are a meme. STEM is legit

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>>132160929
Thanks, and by the way, Law only gets 3.8%? That doesn't seem right. I thought law always produced more smarter grads than others.

Thanks anyways.

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>>132162397
Ah, a STREAM fan. Got you covered.

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>>132128878
>Business degree
>Own the engineers

>>132162947
leave no child behind, my guy

>>132148571
Farming is not a trade

>>132163026
just snap your fingers and you will own a successful tech startup.

You can earn a liberal arts BA in a subject you enjoy to keep the GPA up and use it as a springboard toward good graduate programs that aren't that tough. I knew a guy who earned a master's in Urban/Regional Planning (not tough at all) over about five years after his worthless BA left him working as a secretary in an insurance company so he took grad course at night. After grad school he bided his time in a do nothing city planning dept, environmental planner job - it allowed him to be outdoors on nice days and sit in an office on bad days.

He eventually became a department head and had a $125,000 salary in a cushy job with a fat pension awaiting him based on that salary. This dopey dude was a stoner, Grateful Dead, hackey sack in the parking lot type slacker when I knew him before he was promoted but an easy graduate degree paid off nicely for him.

>>132162316
Nope

Those three are already automated in multiple aspects. Can you find a single commercial bot about engineering? Only one I can think of is SE

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>>132159992
>if my crypto shit goes to hell
>MFW when it's doing exactly that

>>132163026
Most people I know with a Business Administration degree are middle managers who earn less than the technical specialists they oversee.

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>>132128878
Serious question here. What are the odds that an autistic, mediocre Electrical Engineer from a shit college with 3.2 GPA and no intern experience finding work in the field right out of college?

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>>132163171
Pretty much, you know how easy it is to make connections, understand a bit of technology, make yourself the boss, and grab in cash? Go to any Startup Weekend event and you can do the same shit.

>>132163282
ETH hater detected.

Suck on my ICO.

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>>132159673
If you want to make a living out of being lazy. Go to law school to becomes public defender. You get good pay for being lazy. No one cares if you win a case or not.

>>132163376
Thats pretty much me but am junior year. What uni?

>>132163768
University of RI

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>>132163528
RIP ETH. Alien, Asperger vodka baby tech was truly too advanced for this world
>>132163361
It's honestly varied. Most engineers stay at that technical position for years, whereas those with business degrees have a chance to move up and around. Engineering degrees are not going to be a safe bet for much longer, last trade show I was at, every single pajeet and his grandmother were handing me resumes. There's an oversaturation of engineers, hopefully, the H1-B1 visa loopholes get closed, which are bad for finicky presidents and penny pinchers like me who just cycle through street shitters, but better for the country in the long run.

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>>132161413
That was my brother. He was always the mathfag of our family. Also, believe it or not, he's a huge chad. He did civil engineering while I did journalism. His summers/semesters
>Partying, drinking, going to concerts, random hookups
My summers/semesters:
>Joined clubs, extraciriculars, two jobs/internships, steady gf (we're still together, going to marry!), Networking, certs, studying

The result? He spent a year unemployed and looking for work with his more "lucrative" STEM degree, while I coasted through an easy humanities degree and had a job lined up before I graduated.

We're both working now, him in civil engineering and me in marketing, but because I was so proactive and determined, I make HEAPS more than he does. Hes doing five figures (respectable) at 26, while I'm 24 and am doing six. I only bring this up because all my life he told me how much more he's going to be making than me because I cannot do math to save my life.

I admit, he probably had more fun in college, but I could give a shit.

Bro, if I could give you a piece of networking advice: ALWAYS be hungry for more. Knock on your bosses door (provided you have an internship) and ask him if there's training spots for new technologies, things like that. Shoot your tech guys an email explaining you're a humble student and want to learn more. I did this a few times and it put me WAY ahead of everyone else. Also, take your mentors/superiors out to coffee and pick their brains. It shows enthusiasm and interest in your field. Me doing this landed me a solid reference with the fucking MARKETING DIRECTOR for my university, which got me my current job.

>>132161572
Certs are great, but experience is better. Still, they're good when you're not in a position to gain experience (try and get into that position). Make sure you don't just coast through your cert. Really sit down and learn that shit. It's easy to tell who looked up the answers on the final exam to earn their cert, at least in my field.

>>132163991
Thats not so bad, I assume it's the best school in your state. Employers arent gonna judge you that bad as they assume you went there coz its close to home and your peers.

But I go to CSUN, the shit tier schools in the state.

>>132157641

i thought Trump signed some H1B limits?

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>>132164822
LMAONOPE.

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>>132143626
Damn dude, are you on LinkedIn? Can I add you?

>>132164822
That's a big noperino brochacho

I M an electrician with only college degree in memeconomy school , and at 23 i make 3 times the money my friend with degree makes , and many are still unemployed . TRADE skills are better . and at least here in italy there is shortage of plumbers and electricians , due to the fact that all these faggots are going to university with daddy s money and they learn shit anyway

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>>132165398
I am on LinkedIn, but you understand why I wouldn't want to put my professional information on here. Still, good luck dude.

>>132165967
My dad once told me: "this world takes all types" and it absolutely does. There is nothing wrong with going into trades. I've encouraged many of my friends who aren't in school to try a trade. It's good, honest work. Hell, there's a shortage of them here too. We need more people in trades.

I went to college to follow my passions, and I put in the extra effort BECAUSE journalism was my passion. Frankly, you really have no business in college if you're not doing the same.

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>>132128878
>11 days left
>Praying to get into Robotics Eng
wish me luck anons

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>>132128878
and?