WE WUZ PROGRAMMERS N SHIET

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>>132123051

>>132123051
>Using "code" as a verb

That's the only thing that irritates me.

>adam savage struggles to remain relevant

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>>132123051
It's always funny they never actually show the work being done, they just show a blurry computer from afar screen or them fiddling with the keyboard. Never the code.

These things are just minority hugboxes.

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>first minute in
>some black bitch just throws the fucking chip it's programming like it's no fucking problem
Well these are some highly educated african americans, i would say. There's no doubt these will be the most capable engineers we've ever seen.
>we wuz genuino n shieet

>>132124469
A lot of the code is that "drag and drop" code or a sheet telling them what to do step by step. They don't throw them in a room with python and Java and have them make shit from scratch.

Another thing, why does every-fucking-thing have to be about sex, (((gender))) and/or race?
Shouldn't they be UNITING them with the rest of society instead of separating them from it? Why not teach white kids? Why not little boys who want to help around the house with something? Why specifically black girls?

>>132123051
>Can't comment
:^

>>132123051
The girl is at least fuckable.

>>132125159
Oy you racist white supremacist nazi!
Can't you remember evil white man wanted to kill every African American just like they gassed my grandfather 6 times and then they turned him into soap?

>>132123051
What game did she supposedly develop? I ain't clinking that shit.

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>>132125159
(((They're))) reducing everyone to the absolute lowest common denominator.

>>132123051
Why do black people always want to segregate themselves? Black only graduation, black only code workshops. What's up with that?

>>132123051
Whats the problem with that OP?

>Java code now has ebonics in comments
wew

>>132124469
These coding boot camp never mention what language they will teach you ever. U mean I suspect it's web site HTML PHP shit since that's the easiest to teach but regardless they never fucking mention this.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHARHAHAHAHARHAHAHADFHADFGHSFGHSFGHSFGHSDFGH

That isn't coding, they are basically Mavis Beaconing with a premade template that comes stock with Arduino's.

https://gist.github.com/alpha1125/6c440b7e1d5d73b706d0e3288a7229cf


THEY ARE ALSO USING PLUG AND PLAY PREPROGRAMMED BOARDS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

http://littlebits.cc/

Thanks /pol/ i needed a good laugh

>>132125159
Because when they submit a grand, the diversity grant giver reads "black""girls" and jizzes in his pants.

>>132126522
Forgot this link https://www.arduino.cc/en/Tutorial/Blink

>>132126291
System.out.println("Shieeet");
//Wat do ln mean, teach

>>132126522
They are 7 year olds idiot

>>132126522
Chill my dude. What exactly are you expecting little kids to be programming?

>>132126618
Sorry at 7 years old I wasn't putting together nu-Legos.

I was helping write private runescape servers.

>>132126291

//Dis function lit af

>>132126522

Well that's dumb. At least teach them logic circuits or something that requires critical thinking. I took a processors class that had us writing assembly for a CPU, used it to program a LED.

>>132123051
Baby's first computer or WOMEN STRONK TOOO!!11!1!

>>132126701
>runescape
My man

>video about coding
>Zero coding actually shown

>>132126522
So? They're kids. Not everybody can be child prodigies.

>>132125159

Anti-white, anti-Christian motives of Jewish financiers. It's all about eliminating Christianity on earth and creating a slave race of goyim.

>>132126618
At 7 I was forking my own Linux distros.

Looks like we don't need educated white men any more

>>132126761
Exactly. what they are teaching them is not coding at all, it's teaching code plagiarism. Not in the sense that they are "stealing code" but in the sense that it's all they can do, when they leave the place just use other peoples code. No critical thinking of how to use the set of tools they have to solve a problem, just the thought process of "Ill google this and use whatever i find, if not oh well i give up"

Thats the epidemic happening in the IT field right now, because colleges suck at teaching any form of coding.

>>132126782
Ayyyyyy

>>132126856
So was I, I guess Autism helps me alot.

>black girls code

lol what have black women ever done in computing? more sjw reality denying nonsense

>>132123051
>tfw my only black friend is a programmer

>>132127052
prodigyfag, am late to game. What are good self-education resources? Schools around here suck ass.

>>132123051
Bet they couldn't code themselves out of a simple Fizz-Buzz to save their lives.

>segregation for black girls

Well, it's a start

>>132123051
WE WUZ HACKAZ N' SHEEIT.

>>132127052
Why remake something that is done already? The whole point of frameworks is to integrate shit people already did so you don't have to recreate the wheel.

>>132127354
U IZ RAYCISS FOR SAYING WE IZ BEING RAYCISS

>>132124005
I hope he doesn't become another bill nye. Ever since Mythbusters ended he's just kind of been out there.

>>132127200
Google
>just search "how to ___ in <programming language>"

>>132124005

Jamie quietly went away and onwards to another segment of his storied life. Meanwhile Adam grasps at the fleeting fame he has grown accustomed to.

>>132123051
Why do niggers need special classes and more attention than everyone else are they really that unmotivated and lazy?

>>132127052
>Thats the epidemic happening in the IT field right now, because colleges suck at teaching any form of coding.
this is exactly what OOP invites.
gg javafaggots

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Hidden Burgers

NASA here we come!

>>132125159

It's the whole 'celebrate diversity' angle. Anyone who is not white celebrate who you are! Whites need to appreciate multiculturalism and step aside.

>>132127432
Offisah i dindu nuffin, mah komputah ain got no toolz n shieet
>browser history: "how 2 hack da polis"

>>132127994
Alright you leave my custom variables out of this.

>>132127923
>not wanting to study theory
>not wanting full understanding of software/hardware/network

There's a reason you people don't have clean water.

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>BLACK GIRLS CODE

>>132127200
http://programming-motherfucker.com/

>>132127443
Your completely right, however you don't get taught to explore these frameworks and they infinite possibilites they have. When you use specific parts of them in different ways. You get taught to follow predefined patterns in a way that anything outside of them is literally uncomprehensible.

I'm not just spewing this shit out of my ass either, I may not have finished college but I put enough years and money into it. I have taken many CSCI classes for programming and been disappointed in all of them, even the Professors I have talked to say their courses are bullshit. However to teach someone to properly code in a fluid way takes way to much time, it's simply easier to teach people to be IO machines without any deviation.

>>132127994
Sorry bruh but that's just wrong, OOP is very powerful but you can't teach someone all of it in a few years. So you graduate from college only knowing about half of what your toolkit does. It's like being a mechanic who doesn't know the importance of proper torque

>>132125159

The answer to all of your questions is "cultural marxism", Paco. People like this believe in equality of outcome and not equality of opportunity. They think the best way to unite society isn't to give everybody the freedom to be what they want, but to force exact proportional representations in every field. So, instead of making sure everybody gets a fair chance to learn programming, they start programs that discriminate based on sex and race.

It's all horseshit.

I love how subconsciously leftists are always huge racists. "Look, this black person is capable of acting almost like a human being! Wow, I'm so proud of you!"

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>>132128298
Fuck niggers.

I painted my computer black thinking it would run faster.
Now he doesn't work :(

>>132128344
Fucking multi-paradigm motherfucker. There's no need to have every single function bound to an object.

>>132128344
you can't really teach people to program, you either get it or you don't

people that don't get it should not be allowed to do it.

>>132123051
> economical barriers prevent black girls coding

Need mo' money for dem C++ programs

>>132128714
I believe every language has it's purpose and has the capability to excel in specific area's against a counterpart.

Except Java that can fuck right off, and be replaced with .NET already.

>>132128792
I wish....

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>>132123650
vote this shit down!!!!

>>132128642
Nah dude you should paint it yellow. I did that with mine and now it has a shit-ton of memory, ram and processing power.
It's just hard to understand sometimes because the text got all fucked, but eh.

>>132125159
Because the white kids will outperform the black kids duh!

>>132124942
Bingo 90% of humanity don't have the brain power to sit and write algorithms from scratch that will make a program tick let alone a nog. Shit I can barely do it which is why I don't want to go into programming.

>>132128633
great insight into the way leftists think. Also a movie "Berkeley in the 60's". It goes into how the left is so drawn to rampaging niggers because they are strong and the leftists are like women.
http://archive.fo/R8mtJ

>>132128905
Oh thank god, at least you don't like Java. If there's one reason I will never in a thousand years write for Android, it's Java.

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>>132126784
pls dont be sexist!

I have no problem encouraging people to code. And I'm not going to deny that there aren't some smart black kids who can learn to Code.

But who the fuck are they kidding that a whole ordinary classroom can just learn to code? That's like saying you can teach everyone the violin. No most people don't have the patience or skill to learn.

>>132123051
Why are there so many dislikes? What am I missing?

>>132129077
Java was a mistake that was not happy and should never have happened.

If I ever write and Android App it will be a packaged HTML5 app.

/pol/ is hypocrite, you always complain that black people are dumb and now you're mad that someone's attempting to educate them

>>132128905
Oh me too, there is just so much bad code and bad programmers out there it's amazing anything works at all.

I remember just being stunned and speechless at the ways people would find to design algorithms so badly and with such unnecessary complexity when I was at university doing programming.

>>132126697
why dont you STFU this is a god damn show, about this
complain about the show. you know or go kys

>>132129148
The main issue is the pandering leftist bullshit that treats these kids as geniuses when they're just in a coding summer camp. The only reason Savage is even there is because they're black kids.

Just treat them like people if they act like people. Stop the left treating blacks like pets.

>>132129077
Why the java hate? My main beef with it is it's annoying to set up and create build files. Is it a efficiency thing?

>>132129271
They can go get educated in Africa.

>>132129251
I said this at the time it came along and was ridiculed by all the smart people.

>>132129335
>that treats these kids as geniuses when they're just in a coding summer camp

Which part does this exactly? The woman specifically says that this came is for building confidence in these kids.

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>>132128841
>>132128642

>>132129087
kek

>>132128344
>Sorry bruh but that's just wrong
No it's not.
OOP has its place, but now it's applied to everything for no good reason.
Sun has been relentlessly pushing that java clown shoes stuff for 2 decades in unis. Now they've finally got what they wanted.

Also you contradict yourself. You say >>132127443 is right and I am wrong.
You are just a tripfagging retard. You are not special here because you program some things dude. I wish I could convey what a fucking idiot you are, but sadly, I am not a poet.
Now fuck off back to /g/ and maybe finish your community college fucking loser.

>>132129451
>Smart People

It's only been the most under performing, resource intensive, security flaw filled language to ever exist. I don't know how people can even justify supporting it anymore

>>132128905
microsoft pretty much stole java,
call it dot net
and yuo think its somehow better than
whatever retard

>>132123051
MIT programmers can't code and these nigglets think they can? Copying and rearranging code is not true coding

>>132129251
Time and a place, my dude. It's kind of like Lisp. It was once great, now it's time to put it to rest.
>>132129385
Dictatorial OOP. There's no fucking need to have every single function on an object. I have more problems, but that's my primary gripe.
>>132129453
Savage being there, pandering to his white liberal audience by showing off the black people not acting like savages. If this was a camp full of white boys nobody would give a shit, or they would call it sexist. But because "muh wiminz, muh blakz", leftists eat it up.

Why so much shitting on teaching little kids how to code. Would you rather they nog out on the streets?

>>132124469
They're programming arduino boards to do simple things. Blink a LED by the look of one screen.
Not bad for kids really. It'll only make them better at problem-solving which is a good thing.

The only thing that bothers me is that it is race based, which I think is regressive.

But by all means they should learn how to code if they enjoy it. It could go on to make them a decent carrier. I love being a programmer it's a great profession. Never met a black girl with a job programming yet though. Plenty of poos tho.

>>132129385
>Is it a efficiency thing?
Yes the java virtual machine is an extra layer.
The language itself and the idea behind using a virtual machine is not bad, you just shouldn't apply it to everything. It's the people promoting it and using it are gigantic faggots usually.
Kind of why people don't like Apple products because of the idiots using it.

>>132129740
Now I think your retarded, and must be referring to J++ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_J%2B%2B

Sure .NET might have been inspired by Java, but by no means can you compare the two of them.

>>132129758
I wonder if people with Lisps have problems pronouncing Lisp.

>>132129662
Go back to hosting Childporn.

>>132125159

Because their thinking is being reduced to the lowest common denominator, also mass media induced narcissism. These retards are oversocialized, Professor Kaczynski was right.

>>132129680
pretty much.

I hate Haskell and functional programming currently.

More hype and academic wank that will turn out to be a huge waste of time and effort, mind you the latest C++ standards are fucking nightmare as well.

>>132129740
Sun pretty much stole C++ and called it Java

TEACHING AFRICAN REFUGEES TO PROGRAM IN JAVASCRIPT

>>132130061
>mind you the latest C++ standards are fucking nightmare as well
Did they add more keywords to make OOP more atrocious and code unreadable?

>>132130071
Everything stole from everyone that's the essence of OOP today. Create a niche language for whatever shit you need to develop that builds off preexisting syntax and structure.

>>132124005
My mom just started listening to him and now when I call her on the phone she says stuff like
"I was listening to that Jew Savage's program and he complains a lot about San Francisco, I know he's a Jew but I still like him"
What a time to be alive

>>132124005
I'm pretty sure savage nation is doing better than ever

>>132124942
those days appear over for most. I don't think they even teach API anymore

>>132125159
Some of those you mentioned aren't on the same level.

>>132130197
pretty much, it seems to have got into this insane race where they change the standards constantly to account for some obscure OOP functionality that is only ever used in some massive project or in some obscure experimental esoteric programming example.

AYOOOO

WE COMPILERS NAO NIGGA

SHIT NIGGA

>>132130345
Isn't that Michael Savage?

>>132129087
Also, I don't think her concatenate_strings method is going to work like she intends. It's just gonna smash the arguments together without space between. Also calling the function concatenateStrings would be best practice but whatever. Looks like she just wants to show off her complex hello world
"algorithm".

That being said a woman even atempting to be logical gets my dick hard so...

>>132130299
Oh the Starbucks hipster programming culture.

>>132130071
I think the push for functional programming is to extreme DESU, I understand its purpose and the power it has behind it. However it is not necessary for most development these days.

>>132130197
C++ has been going downhill for years

>>132126376
It'll be Python, it's the go to language for beginners now

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>>132130345
>>132130577
almost certainly michael savage

>>132130345
micheal savage you mean?

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>>132130624
I refuse to believe hipsters program. When I see shit like pic related I don't believe it. In my 10 years programming I never had a job that wasn't at least 70% poo. Like these hipsters have a basement of 20 poos doing the work but they get no credit.

>>132130696
PYTHON STRONK

>>132125159
Because the disparity between IQs. From blacks and all other races. Put blacks in a room with whites and asians. And most of the black kids wont make it. That is why the segregation.

I mean. How many years have they been in a white mixed education system. And fail and then the liberal excuses come out. Its being taught in a white way. Blacks learn differently or blacks do better on verbal tests. ect ect.

So place them in their own peer group. And then they can compete and not feel so dumb

C should be everyone's introductory language.

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>>132131001

>>132130122
#ParadigmShift2070

>>132130516
Yeah exactly.
In this special case due to complexities with inheritance and polymorphism this can go horribly wrong, but that shouldn't be the responsibility of the programmer since he doesn't actually have to know what's he's doing, so here's a new keyword.

WE ROOT NOW!

>>132131136
this

>>132131447
I remember the first time I rooted a computer.
It was full of JFK conspiracy shit, freaked the fuck out of me.

>>132126701
so what youre like 19? Runescape was always for the little faggots who couldnt play superior MMOs like Everquest and DAoC.

>>132131001
I wouldn't dare to look myself, but you can probably find some examples at Ruby and Swift forums.

>/pol/ complains niggers don't contribute to society
>chimps out when a program tries to help them contribute to society

Seriously, what is the harm in this workshop? Only good things can come of it.

>>132131611
>ruby
Can confirm, faggots use Ruby.

What the fuck is Ruby for, anyway? Is it baby's first language? Is that why hipsters use it so often?

>>132131666
it's racist, it gives special treatment to certain groups over others.

It's just a scam. See the great (bad) thing about education is almost everyone is agreeable to any dumb thing you can suggest.
"I think it'd be a great idea to teach kids Sanskrit, Coopering and how to make hats the old fashioned way, with mercury. I think every kid in the nation should learn those skills."
>oh yeah that sounds good making barrels is underrated as fuck.
The normie will say. It's never a BAD thing to teach a kid something because you pretend that resources and time are limitless and important subjects won't suffer for the inclusion of dumb ones.

You can exploit this sentiment. If you rent some space and fill it with ten year old computers you can make yourself a charity telling normies you're going to teach nigger girls to code.
>oh yeah that's great little black girls doing 21st century jobs and sheeit here have a $20,000 grant from my corporation and make sure you tell everyone we sponsored you because we're very interested in promoting social justice.

You can make bank in exchange for telling some nigger girls some basic coding knowledge and no one giving you funding will ever care too much to check what it is you do and how successful you are at doing it.

>>132131711
OMG it's such a pile of dogshite

so slow and inefficient as well

seriously fuck ruby, i mean just why?

what is the fucking point of it?

>>132131136
Yes, I wholeheartedly agree. It was mine. No regrats.

I've spoken to people who only know C++. One particular guy doesn't want to learn C at all because it's "too difficult" (???). Meanwhile he gets into trouble sometimes when C++ is secretly throwing function pointers around and he doesn't understand why things go wrong. Muh reference variables.

>>132132018
>Muh reference variables
KEK

>>132131711
>Is that why hipsters use it so often?
Hipsters will use whatever ultra-high-level language that is "in" because they cant learn a real language like c/c++. They learn it and have to look for new work when the employer switches to the next "in" language and then eventually flops because they dont know what they're doing.

>>132132018
C++ was the first thing they taught us and I think that's a mistake. You need to start basic with C understand that then you can move up to other languages and grasp concepts easier. College doesn't prepare you for the real world. Nothing I learned there applied to the real world. Even our java IDE we used, netbeans was not what most people use (eclipse) despite my professor claiming it was the industry standard. That's the problem by the way no professors have experience they all are students who graduated and became teachers right away. I guess if you could develop you wouldn't be a fucking low paid teacher anyway.

>>132131891
Also an interesting thing about coding, if people on 4chan are anything to go by: the guys that are interested in coding seem to believe absolutely everyone should know how to do it. In fact it's a failing on your part if you're not very proficient at it.

I don't know why they think like that. It makes their having learned it completely pointless if lots of people can do it.

>>132132018
OOP has it's uses, but most programmers can't design OOP very well and common OOP practises lead to unnecessary levels of abstraction and complexity which make it a nightmare to test and debug.

It has it's applications for large scale projects but much can be done in a basic C approach with structures or a C with objects approach where you don't use all the esoteric OOP functionality of c++

>>132132379
this

>>132132399
this

things change too fast in the real world for academia to keep up

>>132131001
Freelancer for a European company here.

We used to work with lots of Poos, now we don't anymore since we always fire them 6 month later when we realize their code is un-maintainable shit.

I love how dumbass socialists always want to predict what the "jobs of the future" will be to prepare kids when they are 10 years old.

That's how a few years ago we had people with degrees of "webmasters", to do the job a 5 minute Wordpress deployment now makes.

>>132131666
>Only good things can come of it.
Teaching kids that "programming is easy and anyone can do it" will cause them to go into CS and then waste a year of tuition when they transfer out because they cant do math or a real CS language they teach to adults.

You may not realize it, but anyone who is going to stick to a CS program and be good enough to get work will be drawn to the sciences without help from wanna be hour of code programs.

As a white male programmer I want more diversity in field just so everyone has the opportunity to get underpaid, shit on, and kick around all day as well. I welcome them.

>>132130122
Kek. Trash economy !

>>132123051
So Adam Savage really is gay? Or he's just been taking hormone blockers?

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>>132132379
>Hipsters
"Hi I'm Kyle and I am your Ruby instructor for today!"
http://melikacarr.com/project/bmore-on-rails/

>>132132399
>professor claiming it was the industry standard
If your professor hasn't been working as a developer for over 5 years he doesn't know shit.

>>132131120
RARE
A
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>>132132018
C is a great base where you can build solid C++ knowledge on. Once you know how C behaves, C++ and how it does things behind the curtains starts to make perfect sense. You can start seeing some of the beauty (and the occasional beast) in C++.

>>132132613
I heard one of those talks the other day it listed a bunch of new theoretical occupations. One that disturbed me was "Legacist."

As in you're a dying Boomer cat lady with no kids and you want to pretend people will remember you and you made a difference. So you go to a Legacist and they arrange for all of your estate to go to niggers when you die.

>>132132613
>dumbass socialists

---------------------------------------

>Lefties take hour of code class
>managers take hour of code class
>thinks ANYONE can code
>wants 80 IQ 3rd worlders to come here and code

>>132132715
Why are all kyles subhuman?

>>132132925
That was the plot of the Stand Alone Complex OVA.

>>132123051
>Hey guysth! It'sth ADAM!

Lost.

>>132132476
This is so true. Don't write C code with C++, it just ends up being horrible.

Doing good OOP is really hard, you actually have to think how things relate and what the "object" really is.

>>132132860
I was thinking there was money to be made to teach people honest to God no bullshit development but then I realized the reason why these 3 month boot camp thrive is that the average Joe isn't willing to put in the years needed to master this shit.

>>132133074
I just use objects in C like they're c++ objects and make it work with as many pointers helper functions and structs as I need

>>132131120
SAVED

>>132132639
They won't work with you.
SJWs take a token class doing Fizzbuzz tutorials, then never touch a keyboard again and only tour tech conferences to explain how hard it is to be a WomanInTek.

>>132132925
Shit, I want to be a legacist.

>>132125159
because the classical liberal meme was only in place when America was 95% the same fucking race and the rest were enslaved

>>132133227
That's also a perfectly valid way of writing software. Keeps things relatively simple and sometimes makes for really readable code.

After all, what is a class but a struct made private?

>>132131120
>And then they can compete and not feel so dumb
dumb people should feel dumb. Lowering the standard for blacks is not helping them to be successful.

>>132126697
The guy who broke the record for youngest solo round-the-world flight also founded his own company, aged 12, selling software to provider-unlock iphones.

Kids are capable of coding, not stupid ones though.

Black females are about the worst demographic to teach, they have intersections of stupidity working against them.

>>132123796
Like 'hi, i coded this app 4 android hehe xD' ?

>>132133340
Honestly, I'd take the right over the left. It's at least properly documented.

>>132133074
and not create abstractions just for the sake of it.

>>132133340
People mock her but she represents like 99% of /g/. A bunch of college kids/drop out who know basic shit from websites and pretend they are experts.

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>>132133340
>return 5 because i'm so random yay ;D
I have fired a guy for writing this kind of shit

>>132126522
People who can't develop their own framework are trash.

>>132133401
>After all, what is a class but a struct made private?

Are there more safety rules regarding function pointers and memory issues encapsulated within a c++ compiler that a C compiler would ignore? I have no clue, not a computer scientist here.

>>132133573
>Documenting your code
>Burning your job security

Look I wish in a perfect world we all documented shit but it is literally detrimental to your career to document your code.

I bet they are all just pushing buttons or dragging things around on a premade LabView GUI and aren't even looking at a single line of code .

>>132133340
>else if(a > b && b < a)
Yep, womans code.

>>132133628
It very much many are called few are chosen with programming.

So many want to who really shouldn't be allowed to.

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>>132124469
Arduino LED blinking.
And they are simply copying it from an example. wew led

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>>132126522
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>>132133825
>So many want to who really shouldn't be allowed to.
Exactly! Image teaching poor people that ANYONE CAN DO QUANTUM PHYSICS and then they all goto a year of college and then drop out in much debt. Its a disservice. (not saying software == quantum physics)

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>>132133340
I wish this wasn't real.

>>132133702
I think the latest GCC is pretty smart when it comes to figuring out dumb shit. But in the end, if you do dumb shit, you'll get burned.

>>132133735
> come back to this part of the code in six months
> no idea what it does
> should've documented this

>>132133573
The left was produced by Greg Walsh at Ardent Computer, a supercomputer manufacturer in the 80's and 90's. Its a fast approximation of an inverse square root and produces much faster results, at least at the time, than trying to actually perform a true inverse square root process.

That code went on to be used for things like lighting and shading in Quake 3 Arena.

Admittedly though, it is poorly documented, but that might be because the guy who wrote it for Quake didn't understand it himself, since he had gotten that from another programmer who worked on the SGI Indigo workstation.

Those people have no idea how important that code was.

itt. /pol/ expecting little qanz to actually code

>>132133866
I'm no programmer but I remember doing electronics in high school and we made a circuit that made a light blink. Do you even need code to make that happen?

>>132131611
>>132131711
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>>132132379
Something tells me you guys would like listen to this song while coding:

https://youtu.be/Pueh5IcRi2U

>>132133866
That's the example that appears when you first open Arduino...

>>132132626
>You may not realize it, but anyone who is going to stick to a CS program and be good enough to get work will be drawn to the sciences without help from wanna be hour of code programs.

I have children of my own, and I volunteer at their school often. There are kids whose parents are absolutely dedicated to them. They'll play baseball or soccer all damned day. But they won't help their children to read because they're afraid of messing it up. They don't touch basic math or anything academic. That's the school's job, and their own unhappy memories of school keep them from assisting at all.

It'd be surprisingly easy for a kid to graduate high school with zero exposure to code or the basics of how computers work. Given the right learning environment, I'd totally agree with you. It's amazing sometimes what these kids do and don't receive at home.

My community is greater than 90% white.

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>>132123051
>Head of the organization: "You axe the question, ..."

>>132134029
good software design is probably harder than quantum physics, it's more complex and problems don't have clearly defined limits.

It's both and art and a science, something like composing music or designing a gothic cathedral.

>>132134132
>Its a fast approximation of an inverse square root and produces much faster results, at least at the time, than trying to actually perform a true inverse square root process
In CS a .001 second speed up is a huge benefit. The thing runs billions of times a second.

>>132123051
90% of these girls with be Instagram thots in 5 years. The other 10% will get scholarships that should have gone to an asian kid. They will then be hired by IT companies as diversity hires as PMs. They will not actually do anything because the real work will be done by white male contractors (who really know how everything works) and H1B poos. Silicon Valley is playing a dangerous game with it's self. India and China don't play these stupid diversity games. However, as yet, the also don't have any real creative talent (white males).

>>132134076
I will gladly spend a day to remember what the fuck I did months ago over making my coding perfectly documented to the point where he might consider firing me to higher a cheaper poo or something to maintain my code. My job has done this in the past.

>>132134234
You do on the Arduino. You were doing electronics and probably just sent a waveform to an LED. The Arduino has a lot of capabilities, so you need code to tell it what to do.

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>>132133866
You think they even know how to spell? shiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeee

>>132134254
RUN EM OVER THEY GLOW IN THE DARK

>>132134132
I can admit that I'm dumb enough to not know what the thing does when I look at it. Had that function been documented, I'd now know what it does and perhaps learn a thing or two when looking at it. Now it's just
> Black Magic, don't touch

>>132134423
>Not keeping a version with documentation and one without

>>132123051

I went to a STEM school for CS and graduated with 3 black kids. Two of them were complete morons and I don't have a clue how they managed but the third was a kid from Barbados and he was honest to god an excellent programmer. He had all the poos begging him for his code in class so they could copy/paste like the majority of the Indians/Paki/Saudi's in CS.

It was one of those few rare cases were I met a 'black intellectual.'

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>>132124469
Here have some real code anon, it's from a little project i have been working on/

>>132134254
you should stop listening to that something that tells you things, it's probably a sign of a mental illness.

>>132134254
>FUCK RING 3 MAN
>I WANT RING 0

Terry is my hero.

>>132134315
>It's both and art and a science
Jesus christ I have been trying to tell my boss that software is an art form but his MBA keeps him from realizing that. I agree with you 100%

In the past I written code that was all in a specific style and all interweaving and working properly with proper doxygen comments and linked comments and after a half year I sit back and look at it and smile because it is FUCKING beautiful!

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>>132134683
>Ring 3 is for nigger fuckers

>>132134423
That truly sucks, I wish they got what they deserved and their code was rewritten by a permanently rotating crew of five non-documenting Indians.

>>132134508
>Black Magic, don't touch

That's actually a good thing for that function. It works amazingly well and is surprisingly accurate. That magic number 0x5f3759df is an approximation that Greg Walsh produced by getting close enough to what he needed, then hard coding the number.

>>132134356
>India and China don't play these stupid diversity games
Thats why they will eventually win. They hire the best person for the job, we hire most oppressed coloreds.

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>>132123051
why only black girls?

why only girls?

why is it ok to make racist and sexist events if its for a minority?

>>132123051
Anyone who uses the word "coding" unironically is a fucking moron.

>>132123051
Where can I buy a 'white men code' shirt ?

>>132134631
noob question, can you not use switch statements for that? It looks like all you're really doing is typecasting.

>>132124469
This and I noticed they said parents a lot, implying mom/dad but I really only saw women in the background. Kek guess the fathers were at work.

>>132131001
4th guy over in back seemingly 'centered' looks familiar. Investigate for me /pol.

>>132134631
>if else if else if

Just use a Switch my man.

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>>132134882
Yeah, if you are a Pythogorean then you can see that this comment is very deep and telling

>>132130345
>Michael Savage

and, yeah, he's cool

>>132135120
I wish but you can't use a switch case for types.

https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/peterhal/2005/07/05/many-questions-switch-on-type/

>>132134616
>from Barbados
I know Nigerians and Barbadians who tell me stories of their parents instructing them not to associate with american blacks.

/pol/ will hate me for this but the blacks that come from overseas are great people. Probably that they are smart folks who are jumping their sinking ship of a country.

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>>132134882
> When the black magic just right

>>132134631
>real code
is c#

>>132133573
And you'd get an incorrect response on the right code if you enter, say '7' into the function. The code on the right just returns 5 if the values are equal which doesn't say which value entered is larger if it's the same.

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>>132123051
Don't buy their shit, poor quality

>>132134918
The left dreams of a world where womans are all the sit down jobs and the man folk do the hard jobs.

>>132135210
>>132135120

Also yes I could built a component to do type switching as described here.
https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/jaredpar/2008/05/16/switching-on-types/
but a simple IF Else does the trick.

>>132135334
Let me guess your one of those VIM C++ time wasters.

SHOULD I LEARN ASSEMBLY OR MACHINE CODE?

>>132135480
Neither unless you are going to be working in a field were there are already too many people.

>>132135480
hey are basically the same thing but it's different for every processor architecture

>>132135380
what do you expect from the woman folk

>>132135380
Whether it actually works is a matter of testing (that's what QA is for).

>>132135229
I didn't think so. If all it does is typecast though, why write a function for it?

>>132123051
QUICK: JAVA OR PYTHON ANSWER OR YOUR MOM WILL DIE TONIGHT

>>132135439
yeah desu Acer products are fucking garbage.

Had a laptop that was so badly constructed/engineered I had to put it in service 3 times in 4 months.

>>132135255
Fuck you I hate you

>>132135477
>Let me guess your one of those VIM C++ time wasters.
Visual Studio and GCC/Kate actually. I only joke about c# because people who do C# exclusively dont know how to use memory. Id do the same for java fanboi

>>132135695
The hard part of that is whether or not I want to answer or not...
Python, and I only answered because Java is so fucking atrocious.

>>132135645
You'd never be hired anywhere I work. It's the dev's responsibility first and foremost to make sure that the code works as expected. QA is there just to help find issues, but your primary responsibility to make sure your shit works.

>>132135684
It's part of a much bigger process and that was the easiest way to implement it without rewriting the same code everywhere. Extension methods are actually fantastic.

>>132135772
Understandable, I have done a lot of research on memory saving/performance with C#. Plus as the language has advanced it has gotten really good at doing it itself.

>>132135480
Assembly gets compiled into machine code fool. You only need enough assembly these days to look at code generated by the compiler from c/c++. Unless your embedded developer in which case you would already know assembly.

>>132134631
Wow we have an expert here... no one cares you faggit

>>132135480
>assembly or machine code
Disgustingly abstract tools
Implement your algorithm directly into hardware with 7400/4000 ICs

>>132135255
>Nigerians and Barbadians
African and Caribbean blacks can't stand the lazy entitled American blacks. Most Africans know American blacks were dumb slaves that were sold to slave traders by other African tribes. When I worked in Africa the Embassy had little cultural awareness hand outs. They specifically told us not to bring up the question of slavery because the various tribal groups know who sold who into slavery and it is still a sore subject.

>>132135645
If you give bug ridden shit to testing you will get your ass chewed out. Make sure your shit works first. Testing is there to find the small stuff that nobody knew was there or noticed. Its also there to find stuff that end users wouldn't like (that is, preferential stuff).

>>132135772
It's been a while since I did C/C++ but aren't there libraries that help with memory management now so you don't have to manually delete memory blocks now?

>>132136025
Wow we have someone with an opinion here.. no one cares you faggit.

>>132135695
There both shit for small apps. Java will work better for mobile so go with that shit.

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>>132135908
maybe my sarcastic comment wasn't as good as it sounded in my head...

>>132135695
Neither, they both suck, but Java sucks a lot more.

>>132135967
but it's just typecasting tho

You better explain yourself, codefag.

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>>132136044
>using digital circuits and not bacteria culture bio-feedback amplifier integrators to do your calculations

>>132136117
C++11 introduced a pretty useful concept of managed pointers. It makes using and sharing pointers a lot easier.

>>132135908
>but your primary responsibility to make sure your shit works.
this

I agree QA is only for niche issues.

>>132136117
yes the standard template library makes all that stuff much easier than it used to be.

>>132126522
You sound like real prick

>>132136185
Not so much, and given how low the general intelligence of most online communities are your comment can't be distinguished as being joking or serious.

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>>132123051
>comments disable

Why am I not surprise? These are the same people who sided with Rebecca Watson.

>>132135477
found the coder who can't vim.

>>132135967
>Plus as the language has advanced it has gotten really good at doing it itself.
True. I only give you shit because Im jelly.

>>132136202
Mmmmmmmmmmmmm maybe if it works.

>>132136384
Thanks, I am we don't need any more retarded programmers in the field. That is how things like Apple Maps driving you off a canyon happens.

>>132136337
I started messing with them about a year ago and they're awesome. They really cut back on all the bullshit boilerplate pointer management you had to do all the time that was holding C++ back.

>>132136044
>Disgustingly abstract tools
kek

>>132136234
Hmm this really coddles my cerebellum

>>132126701
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh my god

>>132136070
>American blacks were dumb slaves that were sold to slave traders by other African tribes
Its almost like the blacks that came to america were the worst of the stock..........?

>>132136469
No i can VIM, but i prefer to use tools that don't slow me down.

>>132136491
It's okay anon, maybe C++ will adopt some of it in the future.

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>>132136416
>stealing my waifu

Remember, everybody, there are no good Watson.

>>132136117
You cant develop in c++ without ever touching memory....but if you are writing software that never needs you to touch memory, just use c# or java....or WORSE microsoft managed c++.

OP's vid btw
>Comments are disabled for this video.
>More dislikes than likes

>>132131946
ruby is for rapid development, pound shit out fast that's tested, compact, and expressive

>>132129070
actually you are just retarded and projecting

>>132123051

>we needs more resources lmao

>>132123051
This faggoty cuck needs to go back to " debunking " shit and making equally shitty props for movies.

Between him and Bill Nye I don't understand why these fucks try to virtual signal once they start falling into obscurity.

>>132134132
I remember the first time I wrote an algorithm I didn't quite fully understand that worked perfectly. It was the moment I realized I had found my calling.

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>>132131711
>>132136766
>>132131946

Ruby is useless and the industry is realizing it, I know of several companies that fired all of their ruby dev's. Then hired a full team of C# developers to rewrite their shitty code.

img: captcha

>>132136807
NEED MORE RESOURCES FOR DEM PROGRAMS

>>132127725
It's too late

Why does /pol/ hate brown people?

>>132136493
>That is how things like Apple
applefags grind my gears so bad.

>US XCODE ANON ITS BETTER THAN GCC
>US MAC ANON ITS BETTER THAN LINUX
>US MAC ANON ITS THE COOLEST

>>132136766
rubbish it's useless hipster crap that nobody uses.

>>132137004
Because they have been on Earth the longest and have nothing to show for it

>>132137004
I don't hate black people, I hate niggers who wont admit they are niggers.

>>132136943
bullshit, you can make $80hr coding rails in the midwest, ruby isn't going away because time is money

>>132137085
The worst ones are Applefags who use a Mac but have a windows VM for their Dev environment.

They literally should kill themselves.

>>132136535
>They really cut back on all the bullshit boilerplate pointer management you had to do all the time that was holding C++ back.
I found a guy who wouldn't be able to work as embedded developer with no stdlib

>>132124552
Maybe they be kangs again someday

http://www.allempires.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=36429

>>132136735
you can***

>>132129909
When I was in college (comp sci) I knew a girl that was doing a watered-down version of the course.
Met her at a wedding party, she was making drinks. It was a sad surprise.

>>132137004
I don't hate brown people. I hate savages who feel justified in their bad behavior because of whitey, and the cucks that treat them like animals.

>>132137178
Sure if you want a job building prototypes that will be replaced with a real language. That you will be fired from or replaced as soon as you finish the project.

i dont get the big deal, whats wrong with this? Sure the majority will lose interest but at least some of them will stay interested and further pursue this instead of being reliant on welfare and becoming a single mother crime factory.

This is good you retards need to stop getting ypset at every little thing.

>>132136766
>use ruby to quickly write code
>fire ruby hipsters
>hire real devs
>rewrite quality code in some sort of c based language.
>???
>no profit

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>>132123051

From John Carmack to Jamal Lipsmack. It's been a long way down for American programmers.

>>132137286
did you get the pucci?
>>132137343
Read the thread before you post newfag

>>132123051
>BLAKKS N WOMYN ONLY, BABY DADDEHS WELCOME WITH BABY MAMMAS PERMISHUN

>>132136812
>Between him and Bill Nye I don't understand why these fucks try to virtual signal once they start falling into obscurity.
Lefties need other stupid people to explain shit they way they understand.

>>132137321
>what is twitter
>what is github
>what is urban dictionary
>what is AirBnB

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>>132123051
>We want equality
>But let's segregate ourselves off first

Someone, please explain

>>132136934
>I remember the first time I wrote an algorithm I didn't quite fully understand that worked perfectly. It was the moment I realized I had found my calling.
similar, I found my calling when I learned to write software so I could mass download dirty pictures.

>>132137197
I'm talking about using C++ as an application level language. I've done embedded and other low level programming with no stdlib. That doesn't mean you should have to worry about memory or pointers ALL the time, especially when it is boilerplate stuff you end up writing basically every time you use memory managed pointers.

>>132136727
?

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>>132132715
Can't make this shit up....

>>132137649
fun fact: trying to make porno games is why I started programming in the first place.
>>132137681
I said what I meant and I meant what I said. You figure it out.

>>132137183
KEK They do that? what a smart bunch of fruits.....

>>132123051
Good for them, niggers should learn how to code and have jobs.
But meme workshops or meetups don't learn, learning to code

>>132137178
>ruby isn't going away because time is money
shit code written in 3 weeks is still shit code. Ruby might work for small projects but there is a reason that Adobe/ Micro$oft/chrome/firefox office or any other mainstream software is not written in ruby. (they're written in multiple languages usually, ruby not among them).

>>132127052
>No critical thinking of how to use the set of tools they have to solve a problem, just the thought process of "Ill google this and use whatever i find, if not oh well i give up"

AKA the pajeet method

>>132137787
Oh yeah a lot of them do it, and they will defend the Mac as their best Dev machine. Whilst complaining about everything not responding or working fast enough. Meanwhile i got my 2xCPU Xenon work station flying at speeds unperceivable to them.

>>132137676
>I'm talking about using C++ as an application level language
Yes I could agree with that. With the new stdlib we can keep using c++ for practical higher level stuff instead of getting used to another language.

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>>132123051
>barriers to coding

literally having a laptop

>>132133573
Over documenting is a thing. The left is short enough that you don't have to document it if it's stand alone.

>>132137286
>It was a sad surprise
I would have laughed in her face.

>me: hey girl want rich CS bf?
>girl: YES!
>me: to bad cunt, scotch on the rocks.

>>132138288
F*cking badass!!

>>132134631
>tripfag attentionwhore displays his "real code"
>windows C# visual studio WPF trash
>two variables with the same name only differing in casing
my fucking sides

>>132138149
Speaking of that, does C++ have any good GUI stuff yet? That's one of the biggest advantages to Java is the ability to use JavaFX and FXML to spit out decent GUIs.

>>132137343
>stay interested and further pursue
And most will drop out because this program taught them that writing software is SUUUUPER EASY. They'll have debt and no degree and the ones who succeed would have gone to college anyway.

>>132126618

i learned to program at around that age, by myself alone in a room , with some shitty book in English, no internet. (there is always more to learn to get really good though)

>>132128344
>OOP is very powerful but you can't teach someone all of it in a few years.
Wrong i learned C++ OOP when i was 16 in about 1.5 years.

>>132138440
>WPF

You are retarded if you think any of that is WPF, plus you have obviously have no idea how any part of that extension method works. So I will disregard your statement as ignorance.

>>132138541
Self taught I assume... which is a completely different ball game than shcool.

>>132138544
Please don't tell me that's winforms, that's ten times worse.

>shits on java yet shills MS' java
kek

>>132138451
You don't like Qt?

>>132123051
We wuz hello world n shiet

>>132126618
At 7 I was programming text-based adventure games, complete with bit music, fighting and branching choices in qbasic.

>>132126522
>using educational tools to hopefully plant curiosity and love for computer and cience IN CHILDREN is bad
I mean they hav to start somewhere.

I was playing outside with friends when I was 7.

>>132137564
>The switch from Ruby to Scala and the JVM has given Twitter a performance boost from 200–300
>GitHub's backend services for using Git as a datastore are written in Erlang
>urban dict: unknown
>air: built primarily in Ruby, though it also appears they use HTML, CSS, JavaScript (programming language), and AJAX, according a backend engineer job listing

2/4 at best anon

>>132138602
I honestly wouldn't put down self-taught guys too much. Sure the majority won't hold a candle to those who were formally educated, but there are some extreme outliers that would put formally educated CS grads to shame. I admit to being formally taught and have encountered one or two of these outliers in my 12 years of working in industry.

So if I'm a low iq individual, how do I go about learning to code? IQ generally influences how quickly I learn or understand concepts right? So can I drill myself like crazy?

I was working at Microsoft when I was 7

>>132138812
It's the opposite. Formally educated don't hold a candle to self-taught. The efficiency ratio is about 8:1.

>>132138752
Yes, but the video makes it retarded. They're making it seem they're preparing the next generation of engineers instead of kids having a day off to do nerd things for fun.

>>132137780
>fun fact: trying to make porno games is why I started programming in the first place.
This might be the real way to get more software devs. They'll be men, but if there is really a shortage (i dont think there is) it shouldn't matter (in perfect world).

>>132138602
No no no don't get me wrong I am completely self taught, I only started doing college for the piece of paper meme. I have been coding pretty much since I got my IBM T42.

>>132137946
>But meme workshops or meetups don't learn, learning to code
BASED

>>132138927
Meant for
>>132138812

>>132138854
I'm not convinced of your clam there. Any particular reason why you claim the ratio of 8:1?

>>132127052
>when they leave the place just use other peoples code. No critical thinking of how to use the set of tools they have to solve a problem, just the thought process of "Ill google this and use whatever i find, if not oh well i give up"
Excellent point

>>132138080
KEK macfags BTFO