If what she did (sending texts) is a "crime", then

>>132106324
kys

>>132106324
>If what she did (sending texts) is a "crime", then where is the victim?
he's dead
>The boy wanted to die, no one was hurt who didn't want to be hurt
he wanted to die because he didn't want to be hurt anymore
>so there was no victim. No victim no crime
except the boy who died

>>132106324
I love it when feminist implemented laws come and bite them in the ass. She deserves whatever is coming her way.

>>132106709
He'd dead because he wanted to die. You're not a victim if you wanted what came to you. What's next, you're a victim when you choose to spend your own money? No, you're only a victim if someone steals from against your will.

>>132106995
she could have prevented his death and instead she catalyzed it
that was a wrong thing to do and she shouldn't have done it

>>132107334
Why would you try to prevent someone from doing what they want to do with their own life/body.

>>132107707
gee I wonder why...

>>132107839
No reason to.

>>132107707
Killing yourself is a crime. You dont own yourself, the state does.

>>132107839
Suicide is degenerate

>>132106324
>If what she did (sending texts) is a "crime", then where is the victim?
The victim is dead. That's where he is.
You're defending a woman who convinced her boyfriend to kill himself. I really hope you're just pretending to be this stupid.

>type certain letters next to each other on your phone
>click send
>get thrown in jail
USA land of the free??? LMAO LAND OF THE KEKED

>>132106709
>he didn't want to be hurt anymore

Tough shit, it's called life and being socially not-.

>>132108133
being socially not what?

>>132107930
Suicide isn't a crime anywhere in the US. But I think you're trying to say how stupid suicide being punished by the law is as if you don't own your own body.

>>132106324
I agree with you op, he had free will.


>>132106454

Watch yourself you could end up in prison for saying that.

>>132107334
>she could have prevented his death and instead she catalyzed it
Could she? It was his own hand that ended his life, with no compulsion.

Should she? He was a grown man, and she isn't his caretaker. People are responsible for themselves.

She's fucking blameless.

>>132108034
Again he's dead because he chose to kill himself. So where's the victim. When did anything that anyone involved didn't want to happen.

Too bad she didn't got her pussy pass, eh?

>>132106324
YOU
ARE
A
KEK

>>132106324
She's definitely involved in his death to some serious degree and deserves punishment, but 20 years is fucking ridiculous and serves no other purpose than revenge and "pleasing" the public. It's not a fair sentence at all. Personally I'd have given her a couple of years. Maybe 5 tops.

The victim is the rule of law and civil society itself.

I get what your saying OP, but she was a fucking cunt who was sly af. But who fucking does that? Ask yourself that question.

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>>132106324
If you convince a mentally retarded person to jump off a tall building, you can be held criminally accountable for taking advantage of a retard's mental illness to commit a crime.

It's the same idea with depression, which is a serious mental illness that causes people to think and behave irrationally. She took advantage of it to play the grieving girlfriend -- now she must pay the price. Cunt.

>>132106324
Agreed.
See my take on it:
https://youtu.be/SRmGyUGUxq8

>>132112126
Shit!
I meant this:
https://youtu.be/Stp_1Qt7lbM

Obviously the guy was suffering from major depression and the girl caused his suicide indirectly by encouraging his delusions. It'd be like if I told a schizo that he's got bees in his brains and he kills himself becaused he tried to smash his head open. I'm still indirectly responsible for his death. It's called CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE and it's something you can and will go to prison for.

>>132109521
>>132112592
Being sad doesn't take away your free will or turn you into a legitimate retard unable to make decisions for yourself. Is the only way you're able to make your own decisions is if you're happy at the time?

>>132109521
But he wasn't mentally retarded. He was depressed and he chose suicide of his own accord. Multiple times. He was successful this time and had she urged him not to, there's no indication he would listen to her as she had urged him not to in the past. Do you hold her accountable for him not seeking help when she advised him to do so in the past? Or does he own his inaction in that case?

He owns his actions. She was a piece of shit, no doubt. The parents have a case to sue for wrongful death, but I hope she wins on appeal for the criminal indictment.

>>132108034
KYS
Lets hope it works
Crossing my fingers

>>132109170
if roles were reversed, you probably wouldn't mind the guy getting 20 years

cuck

>>132113981
Nope.

>>132112950
You are extremely uneducated on depression andental illnesses, faggot.

>>132106324
it's been what practically a month since this cunt was convicted

you still here doing the same thread over and over and over at least you fucking shill flooding the board to destroy what it once was could take better subject

>>132106324
Don't even haft to know shit about the case. He was a pussy. She had to fucking listen to a pussy till she snapped. Let her go. Just look at that Gord on her shoulders. She was dealing with an Omega male, Of course, she said kys.

>>132106324
The problem with things like consenting to be harmed/hurt is that we generally accept in society that you have to be of sound mind to consent to things.

We understand that people who are impaired such as those who are either too young, or have a low mental age through mental illness, or those who have mental disorders cannot make decisions which are in their best interest. It's why we commit people to hospitals against their "will".

Most people who attempt suicide and pull through their depression admit that they're glad they didn't commit suicide at the time, or were in some way stopped against their will.

The reason she's going to prison is because she's obviously a psychopath who lacks empathy and would be capable of other unspeakable acts if she was allowed to continue to live in wider society.

>>132112299
You're a fag so I disliked your video.

>>132117537
>>132118001
He did not have a "mental disorder". Just because he chose to kill himself, does not mean he had brain problems and wasn't responsible for his own decisions. He just wanted to kill himself.

>>132118001
>Most people who attempt suicide and pull through their depression admit that they're glad they didn't commit suicide at the time, or were in some way stopped against their will.
Literal survivorship bias. People who truly want to kill themselves don't fail, and if they do then they just try again.
Telling someone to kill themselves doesn't mean you lack empathy or are a psychopath, in many cases killing oneself can be the most logical thing to do once you take all the religious and socially-enforced biases away. If someone truly wants to die and you help them work up the courage to go through with it, that can be a kindness.

>>132118627
Shut the fuck up antifa scum

>convinced him to stay in car
>not killing him

I hope you die too.

Stop posting about this ugly psycho squished face looking bitch. No one fucking cares.

>>132106324
I don't know for you America but in Canada it is an offense and punishable to suggest?push for suicide like she did

>>132119407
Agreed mate, you fuckn legend

>>132118627
He at the very least had severe depression as does anyone who gets into the state of wanting to kill themselves, it's kind of in the definition.

>>132119138
You're not as edgy as you think you are.

I'm vegan

>>132119606
I'm not edgy at all mate, unless supporting bodily autonomy is supposed to be edgy according to religious cucks. People can want to die without having mental problems or even being emotionally sad. If you don't understand that then you're the one who lacks empathy.

If you truly believe she did nothing wrong, you are retarded, then again it's /pol/...
The guy wanted attention, he was a faggot for this.
He wanted to die and didn't at the same time. BUT, she really pushed him to do it, if it weren't for her he'd still be a miserable cunt and alive.
What she did, was for the greater good of society, but every action has a reaction.

>>132119606
Being depressed doesn't mean you can't make your own decisions. You're not only in control of yourself when you're happy.

>>132106995
>>132107707
>>132106324

Christ you fucking retard...what she did was not just "send texts". She actively encouraged him to kill himself LOVINGLY, like it was the right thing to do. This wasn't some random "omg kys" message from a stranger. It was someone close to him that told him ways to commit suicide, and lovingly told him it was the correct choice for various reasons.

This went beyond just words. If a mother encouraged their children to commit suicide, taught them how to do it, and told them mommy needed them to go to heaven etc...you wouldn't be making this dumb as shit argument. She deserves the jail time.

>>132120322
He convinced her it was the right thing to do. She originally told him to get help, he refused, kept saying he wanted to kill himself for months and that his life was miserable, until he convinced her to his side that death was the best possible solution. Also, he was a grown man and she was a child, so comparing it to a mother and her child makes no sense unless he's the mother in that scenario.

>>132107930
you know im honestly surprised the jews havent come up with some kikery where the government can sue your family for lost taxes if you kill yourself

>>132119961
Except we violate bodily autonomy all the time, we do it when looking after children, we do it when mentally challenged people are a danger to themselves and others.

Do you support parents also giving their 7 year old children hormones to change gender at the child's request as well?

There are plenty of logical reasons why someone might want to die, but he clearly had depression based around things which were fixable.

Again theres loads of evidence that people in his position once they're eased out of their depression are greatful they didn't take their own life.

Anyway what she did was against the law, the law is clear, she now has to suffer the consequences, she's responsible for her actions and will be treated as such.

>>132120322
You're unable to comprehend that maybe him killing himself WAS the right thing to do, in which case she did nothing wrong. Have some empathy for other people's situation.

>>132120600

And now YOU'RE making the stupid argument that she isn't in control of her own words, idiot. You're saying "he convinced her" like she was helpless to resist or do something, you know, not insane. She could have just left him alone. She could have done anything other than encourage him to kill himself and she wouldn't be in jail. But she chose to be an idiot.

No, it should not be a thing that loved ones can mentally manipulate people into killing themselves when they're vulnerable, you edgy faggot.

>>132120228
She didn't commit any US crime and will eventually win on appeal
Nazi Larpers are soft pussies who want the government and a big strong man to do everything for them

>>132108036
Says a non-country

>>132120817
>You're unable to comprehend that maybe him killing himself WAS the right thing to do

It wasn't, because killing yourself is rarely ever "the right thing" and people do it for frivolous reasons all the god damn time. The only arguments you could make for actual suicide is prolonged homelessness, painful chronic illness, inescapable torture, or something similarly severe.

It is not the right thing to do to encourage people who are currently unhappy with their life to just kill themselves. The option is either leave if you think they're incapable of getting their shit together and they will just drag you down, or stick with them if you care enough and encourage them to get their mental capacities in order.

I'm sorry but at such a young age and of that kind of affluence, it is EXCEEDINGLY unlikely that the kid had such severe issues that killing himself was genuinely a great option.

>>132107334
Morally? She is completely in the wrong and will be burning in hell. Legally? It's free fucking speech and I will fight for her right to say whatever she wants that is not an actual, credible death threat.

>>132120817
Holy hell you're a colossal faggot, kudos to you, haven't seen someone who I knew could suck THAT MUCH cock in quite a while

>>132120848
She didn't manipulate him into killing himself, he always wanted to kill himself, if anything she was manipulated into changing her mind about him living, into agreeing with him that he should die. She's in jail because the judge is an idiot and she should be free, it's not the first time someone was wrongly imprisoned. The judge's reasoning was, if he had stayed in the car and died, then it would be all his fault, but since she told him to get back in, it stopped being "self caused" which is retarded, it was all self caused since he self caused himself to get back in.

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>>132106324

>>132121209
Make like he did and kill yourself, i cant understand how there are actually apologists for this evil cunt. This event has brought out the edgiest fucks I've ever seen

>>132106324
She's a disgusting person, but she used words. All the agency was his, and I hope they appeal.

>>132121100
Doesn't really matter if you think it was the right thing to do. He was a grown man and thought it was the right thing to do, his life, his choice to end it if he wants for any reason he wants.

>>132106324
The guy was only 19 years old. The reason he was whining was a cry for help. That's the reason he wanted to back out at the very end, until that psycho bitch pushed him to do it. The only reason you're arguing for her is because you're a white knight or a family member of the girl's. Either way, please kill yourself.

>>132120999
>She didn't commit any US crime and will eventually win on appeal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_negligence

>>132106324
autism, the post

>>132121458
How is she evil for agreeing with his own beliefs that he should die?

>>132121466
Right, he can kill himself for whatever reason, but that wasn't what I responded to. The guy I responded to claimed it might have been the right thing to do, and you honestly cannot present an argument that at 19, his life's problems were so severe that they genuinely warranted suicide. You're trying to play the nihilist card, but courts don't operate on nihilism.

The problem comes in the form of a loved one encouraging his suicide and actively assisting in his suicide attempt without notifying authorities, which falls under criminal negligence/recklessness.

>>132120999
I can't defend her character, but prosecuting her is an attack on speech and expression.

>>132106324
this bitch is soo odd looking, she could be a super model

>>132121877
>I can't defend her character, but prosecuting her is an attack on speech and expression.

Pffft hahahahaha. Yeah, the same way not being allowed to shout "fire!" in a crowded theater is an attack on free speech, you cockmunch. Part of US law is a reasonable person clause, which requires people not to be sociopathic dipshits in situations that can lead to dire consequences. It has been law for a long, long time. It's the entire reason we don't protect the "free speech and expression" for a mother to not feed her children.

>>132106324
every few hours this thread
fuck you
fuck you
fuck you
fuck you
fuck you
fuck you

>>132106324
i've said it a few times, the only tragedy in this whole story is that she wasn't sentenced to a life of having her pretty face slammed by my fat stinky cock.

>>132120999
>any US crime
>what are state legislated suicide laws
Proxyfag. This is considered assisted suicide, which is illegal in several states based on their individual suicide laws

>>132106324
You are a faggot and you obviously didn't read the texts. The kid did not actually really want to die. He was hesitant on it and he kept backing out of it. But the girl kept egging him on and telling him to do it and why he should do it. Her insistence is what led him to actually do it. She killed him by proxy and is totally guilty and deserves everything coming her way. Als, op masturbates to Hillary Clinton photos.

>>132122153
>Yeah, the same way not being allowed to shout "fire!" in a crowded theater is an attack on free speech
Yes. It is.

>how many times can i post this thread and still get (You)s

>>132106324
Fuck off with this bitch, /pol/already find her guilty 3 weeks ago. The case is closed.

>>132121466
But he's incapable of thinking clearly that's the problem with depression, when you're actually depressed your view of the world becomes inaccurate and pessimistic, depressed people turn to suicide because they cannot imagine things being any better.

Yet many people pull through depression and cease their suffering and are glad they did. What she's doing is encouraging a person who's views don't align with reality to harm themselves which is a dangerous thing because her actions could be the difference between him living and pulling through and having a happy life, or him ending his own life.

There's a difference between a suicidal person being left to their own devices and killing themselves, and her actively encouraging it. She propped up his delusion that there was no hope and no way out.

Glad she's going to prison.

>>132106324
Also op telling someone to kill themselves is not protected speech because it is a call to action. And by the way you are a faggot piece of shit.

>>132121825
Are you inside his body? Who knows what kind of anguish he was going through. No one can say him committing suicide was the wrong thing to do for himself unless they had to live his life. I assume it was bad enough to warrant suicide since he committed suicide. And she didn't assist in his suicide, I don't think they even met much, he bought everything and did everything to kill himself. Anyway she wasn't found guilty of that, she was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter.

>>132122311
>yells "fire!"
>some autist speed dials 9/11
>evacuated building
>completely cuts into business
>many pissed off customers who are going to what refunds or credit
>must wait until fire fighters arrive to give all clear
>misuse of emergency services
>disturbing the peace
There's your crimes. It's not infringing your right to free speech

>>132122311
In other words, you're retarded. I wish we really did have complete free speech so I could hire people to spend 24/7 making loud noise near you day and night in rotations until you literally died from exhaustion, you dumb faggot. Fuck off.

>>132106324
She actively encouraged him to kill himself after being aware of his condition. Literally the only thing she had to do was notify an adult or the police.

>>132106324
I'd impregnate her. We'd make strong and ruthless white children, a new master race.

>>132121806
Did even read the texts? No you didn't, you're just being an edgy faggot with a bunch of other edgy faggots. He got out of his truck, where he killed himself by running a tube from the exhaust pipe into the window. When he got out and told her, she told him to get back in. Now it might just be the people that aren't edgy faggots, but when you pull back from something like that, such as getting out of your truck because you don't actually want to go through with it, even if you've talked about doing it, that might mean you don't want to die.

She told him to get back in his truck and finish the job, he wouldn't have done it had she not told him to. She's evil, and I hope to god she rots

>>132122501
faggot kill yourself

>>132106324
I wonder what you guys who worship this chick and make excuses for her look like in real life?

Are you the archetypal dude that likes getting choked out by girls and made into financial slaves?

>>132106454
fpbp

>>132122787
CHING CHONG DESU DESI.

kill yourself you fingolian waste of life

>>132106324
It was a crime of circumstance. If this crime occurred in a time where we didn't have smartphones and SMS and all of that and it was just a phone conversation, they'd have no proof she told him to off himself.

If I tell a drunk person at a bar to go drive home, and they hit and kill someone, is it my fault? No. They're responsible for their own actions.

>>132122785
There is no law in Massachusetts making it a crime to encourage someone, or even to persuade someone, to commit suicide.

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>>132122808
I am attracted to blondes with light eyes.

>>132122960
anon thats a muppet

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>>132122921
>TRIGGERED

>>132122571
>Are you inside his body? Who knows what kind of anguish he was going through.

Not an argument. Teenage angst is not a valid reason for committing suicide. I cared about all sorts of dumb shit that I thought was super important in highschool. Shit that made me cry, whatever. Girls that broke my heart for months. Now I just laugh at it, because I'm an adult and I have better perspective on how much of a retard I was. You are continually trying to make these nihilistic "you never know, he could be in excruciating agony! 19 year old white american boys have very, very, very serious problems!!". No, I'm not buying it, and neither is anyone else. He did not have a good reason to kill himself.

>And she didn't assist in his suicide

Yes, she did. She was literally convicted of involuntary manslaughter, you dumb shit. She advised him to continue and discussed methods of suicide with him. She was criminally negligent and reckless. Those are crimes in the US. If you spent 5 minutes actually researched US law, you would understand that she very clearly broke it.

>>132122652
There's no law in Massachusetts against encouraging or persuading people to suicide. Why are you so emotionally invested in this?

>>132123006
wat

>>132122635
That's reasonable.

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>>132122960
Everyone is.

>>132106324
Women escape prosecution in almost every situation where they deserve it.

Prosecute the fuck out of women. Put women in jail forever and make it the shittiest fucking conditions possible.

>>132106324
Any man that listens to a woman and takes her advice seriously deserves to die. This woman deserves a medal for weeding out a beta faggot. After she gets the shiny metal she will be forced back into the kitchen of course

>>132123133
Or, what if... what if we controlled women better? What if we used our greater strength and willpower to make sure our women don't get to act out there psychotic fantasies? What if we do that, instead of jailing them all?

lol @ people who think suicide is healthy behavior, are you serious?

why don't you kill yourself too, do you have a mental disorder?

>>132106324
Similar to when a 18 year old asks a 17 year old for nudes and is imprisoned for 10 years mandatory minimum for attempting to produce child pornography. This is America there is no justice just assholes looking to fuck you over at every turn.

>>132122438
How do your views not align with reality just because you're depressed. If I lose my arms and legs and penis, I'll probably be depressed, for good reason, I can't do anything in life and can't have sex, that's reality and I'm sad about it. Anyway taking away people's personal responsibility just because all humans have emotions, and they make decisions somewhat based off their emotions makes no sense. You're still in control of what you do completely.

>>132123305
It's great, you should try it.

>>132122945
>There is no law in Massachusetts making it a crime to encourage someone, or even to persuade someone, to commit suicide.

Yes, there is. Criminally negligent involuntary manslaughter. Criminal negligence/recklessness. She is guilty of both.

You are required by law to react to certain situations a certain way, as a "reasonable person" would. You cannot, as a mother, leave a kid in a hot car for an entire day. You cannot encourage someone to commit suicide. You cannot convince someone with mental handicaps/a retarded person to harm or kill themselves. The list goes on and on. So your autistic bullshit doesn't work. The courts do, in fact, expect a marginal level of conduct from a US citizen, and it can be criminal to not meet that standard.

>>132106324
Poor beautiful Queen messep up by a faggot and a cuck system of a deteriorating society

>>132121174

this 100%

>>132106324
She's a sociopath. Fuck this bitch

>>132123042
See:
>>132123412

I'm no more emotionally invested in this case than you. I just hate fucking retards like you. Common peace laws exist to everyone's benefit, and the "reasonable person" standard ensures that dumb assholes like you can't let your children starve to death. But you want to let this psychopathic manipulative cunt off the hook because you're a thirsty beta.

She was criminally negligent and reckless. She is guilty of involuntary manslaughter. There's nothing left to discuss.

>>132123026
Again, you're not in his body, so you have no idea what he was going through. Just because you might have thought his problems were stupid, doesn't mean he did. You think you have a "better perspective", but you really just have different perspective. No one can say he didn't have a good reason to kill himself unless they had to live his life and had his brain. Also, again what she was found guilty of was telling him to get back in the truck, so all of the suicide discussion beforehand had nothing to do with her being found guilty.

>>132123626
>I'm no more emotionally invested...I just hate
>spews another diatribe-laden paragraph
I'm skeptical.

Regardless, no - I only care about the precedent of the ruling and implication on freedom of speech; I don't want to live in Canada or Europe with nigger twitter police.

>>132123851
>Again, you're not in his body, so you have no idea what he was going through.

Not valid. No details of this case would lead me to believe his problems were significantly unusual for a 19 year old male, or warranted suicide. You're just going to keep making your shitty nonsensical argument that everyone who commits suicide made the right decision because they chose it and pretend that young people never make poor decisions in regards to their own body, and I'm not interested. You can peddle your nihilism on someone else.

>You think you have a "better perspective", but you really just have different perspective.

I have a better perspective because I have life experience. I know lots of people his age. I've been through that age period. I know the TYPES of problems he was going through, and I can pretty much guarantee they didn't warrant suicide.

>Also, again what she was found guilty of was telling him to get back in the truck, so all of the suicide discussion beforehand had nothing to do with her being found guilty.

Wrong, because those texts were used to build a case against her character and proof of her negligence/recklessness.

>>132122785
If he didn't want to get back in the truck, then why did he get back in the truck.

>>132108133
>being socially not-

THANKS CANDLE JACK now we'll never know w

>>132124173
And again, I wish we did have true free speech so I could murder you through noise guilt free, faggot.

You are a god damn idiot and I'm done responding to you. Learn US law, stop being a fucking retard.

>>132122942
>If I tell a drunk person at a bar to go drive home, and they hit and kill someone, is it my fault? No. They're responsible for their own actions.
the problem isnt that she said that, the problem is that she urged him to do it over the phone when he was leaving the vehicle during his suicide attempt.

If you urged a drunk man to drive home after he decided against driving you'd also be potentially criminally liable.

>>132121100
Is sterility a good reason?

>>132124692
>Is sterility a good reason?

No.

>>132121174
This, I just want to boo at her and throw her tomatoes for being a terrible person, but she shouldn't be in prison

>>132106324
Yo, who is this?

It comes down to her taking advantage of someone while KNOWING he had mental issues.

If you really look hard at this case - you'll realize that her behavior is psychopathic.

It's no different from talking a retard who doesn't know better into killing themselves.

If someone is known to have depression, and you goad them into suicide, it's no different. You talked somebody who didn't know better into killing themselves.

>>132124747
Why

>>132124504
If you wish we had true freedom of speech, then why are you arguing? I don't believe that one can simply "learn US law" without attending law school, or not in any significant capacity. Is it really that easy? Are you a lawyer?

>>132124394
I'm not saying it was the right or wrong decision, I don't think suicide is right or wrong, I just think it's your choice, if you don't like life, it's on you to end it, you own your life after all. If you think it's not "right" I guess thats on you but different people have different opinions and his was that he wanted to end it. Why you think you're some all knowing master on the subject of someone else's life I don't know however. Anyway they explicitly said the reason she was found guilty was for talking him back into the truck so again, nothing beforehand mattered.

>>132125443
Because anything thats not his own opinion on what validates suicide, makes it objectively a bad reason for suicide, even though everyone has their own opinions.

>>132106324
Being that ugly is a crime.

>>132125230
How did she take advantage of a guy who wanted to die, by telling him she agrees with his own decision.

>>132106324
>degenerate goes to prison
I literally do not care.

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>>132123448
>beautiful
no

>>132106324
THREADLY REMINDER:

She is going to prison because she was aware of the act and didn't call for help; furthermore, at one point he got out of the car and she told him to get back in.

So no, it is not just about texts.

>>132126794
this gif makes no sense. what is it even saying? she has eyes and a mouth and so do eagles?

>>132106324
you must be a lefty.

scream on one hand about people being emotionally and psychologically oppressed.

turn around and defend it. mfw I have no face

I see a lot of retards making shitty arguments for both sides, most of it is 'muh feels' vs. 'muh abstract principles'.

This is the exact same thing as directing a blind man to stand on train tracks intending for him to get hit with a train and die. When he objects you say "oh don't worry it will be fine, I'm your friend, trust me". It was in fact the blind man's voluntary and consensual choice to follow your direction and get hit and you didn't force him to do anything, after all.

If you
A.) don't punish her, then you're letting one of the most evil whores on the planet get off scot-free with what is essentially murder, knowing full well that there's a very high chance she will do this again.

B.) do punish her, then you've opened the door for criminalizing mean words, and you now have a big gray area legally. Does saying "kill yourself, faggot" to someone now become a crime? If not, then what about if you do it more than once? Where is the line drawn as to what amount or structure of words communicated constitute manslaughter?

She's absolutely morally guilty, no question. Should she be legally guilty though? I don't know the answer, nor have I seen an acceptable alternative put forth.

>>132127766
>This is the exact same thing as directing a blind man to stand on train tracks intending for him to get hit with a train and die.
But the kid knew he was going to die, and knew the consequences of listening to her. The hypothetical blind man doesn't.

She's clearly an evil bitch, though.

>>132112299
Libertarian video was better tbqh

>>132127766
>directing a blind man to stand on train tracks intending for him to get hit with a train and die. When he objects you say "oh don't worry it will be fine, I'm your friend, trust me".

How is it anything like that, that would imply the boy didn't know he was going to die. He knew he was going to die, he wanted to die.

> there's a very high chance she will do this again.
Do what again, support some guys own decision to kill himself?

self-de·ter·mi·na·tion
noun
the process by which a person controls their own life.

Taking away someone's right to commit suicide goes against their right to self determination. Physically stopping someone from committing suicide or trying to find someone to punish when someone commits or attempts it, is a violation of their rights.

>>132106324
she's an evil bitch but she didn't do anything illegal. she just told a depressed guy to kill himself but she didn't actually kill him. it was his choice to do it nobody forced him.

>>132106324
If I am with a mentally impaired person whom I have befriended and who trusts me and tell him to touch an electrified rail and he dies am I in some way liable? Or did he make that choice on his own free will and is solely responsible for that choice?

>>132118001
>lacks empathy

You clearly don't know what empathy is. Empathy is not "I want everyone to be alive to make myself happy". It means understanding and sharing the feelings of others. She empathized with his feelings of wanting to commit suicide, if you don't think he should have done it just to keep yourself or others happy, when he really wanted to, then you lack empathy.

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>>132106324
Did she star in a Luc Besson movie0lately?

>>132132643
Bump

>>132106324
nah fuck off

It definitely shouldn't be considered a crime. The victim wanted to die, so she essentially told them to do what they wanted. Sure, there's a lack of empathy, but being an asshole isn't a crime. She shouldn't be in this situation. They did this on their own time. She wasn't there to help them do it (otherwise known as assisted suicide). Not her fault in the slightest.

ok but what if being suicidal counts as being mentally ill so it was actually abuse of power relations because she isn't mentally ill so in a way he's like a kid or a retard because his shit was compromised

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>>132132643
wow

>>132135850
>lack of empathy

Does no one know what empathy means? Caring whether someone dies, especially when they choose to die themselves, has nothing to do with empathy. It's about understanding other people's feelings, her understanding his desire to die means she had empathy. If she was just like "I don't care how you feel, you should live against your will just because I want you to." that would mean she lacks empathy.

>>132108332
>Could she?
Yes. Midway through his suicide attempt, he said he didn't want to go through with it, but she encouraged it and led him to die

>>132106324
I think she shouldn't go to jail but what kind of person encourages someone close to them to kill themselves? She is a psychopath and you can see it by her looks, scary psychotic face.

>>132121542
Not saving someone isn't negligence you illiterate nigger

>>132122280
Assisted suicide requires actions taken
She did not physically put him in the car
Regardless, you faggots have a short time left making decisions anyway

>>132119407
You should care, because the court's decision is a direct infringement of the first amendment.

>>132119554
Of course you don't care, you're already used to having limitations on your rights.

>>132106324
You are all fighting for this cunt because
1 She is a young white woman who will gasp be spending the next few years if not decades behind bars (a woman can't go to prison!)

2 The victim was a man and you give no shits about men (if the victim was a woman and the agressor was the man you would try arguing for castration or the electric chair).

She told him to stay in the car which ended his life, she deserves to hang

>>132137857

It's true.

Psychopaths have distinguished features believe it or not. Deep set eyes are the major one

>>132138732
>victim

Where? There was no victim.

>>132138732
So true, pol is full of pussy worshipping faggots.

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>>132138986
T-that's not true!!

>>132112299
>tfw you realize vlogging is just an excuse for insane schizos to rant their inner monologue outloud to themselves under the guise of "hearing what you guys think in the comments"

>>132139145
>Where? There was no victim.
The victim is either in a casket or a urn right now and the victims family has to live with it.
>>132139418
This cunt will lose out on fertility and babies and the faggots cannot have that happen because muh white race.

It does not matter she convinced a man to kill himself after he began to regret his decision no it that she is a white woman who will not be able to breed and have white kids.

>>132118627
>Just because he chose to kill himself, does not mean he had brain problems
Yes it does. We as humans have an instinct to survive, and this is only ever naturally overridden when the body realises it's not going to make it (through ageing, disease, or trauma) and people accept the fact they're heading out. It's like that penguin who doesn't head to the breeding grounds or back to his colony but instead goes straight for the mountains despite having no reason to; he's not some self-aware individualist making his own tough decision, he's just a broken fucking penguin. A (genuine) desire to self-terminate is the pinnacle of brain problems.

Whether we should make ourselves responsible for these people is a whole other issue entirely, though.

>>132139525

https://psychopathictraits.wordpress.com/2016/07/07/how-to-spot-a-psychopath-physical-traits-of-a-psychopath/

Here you go faggot. Deep set eyes/brow ridge/bushy brow This whore ain't no Angel.

>>132140257
wordpress. lol

couldn't you have picked a source that was even remotely authoritative so I could continue the joke in good conscience?

Why do you keep shilling for this ugly troglodyte?

>>132139984
He's in a casket or a urn right now because that's where he wanted to be. So where is the victim?

>>132140020

I watched that penguin video...

Shit got me right in the feels.

>>132106324
everytime i look at her i like her more
halp

>>132140915
>coerced suicide is a victimless crime

Kek

>>132106324
i hope she gets maximum sentence in isolation cell.

>>132141125
>coerced

co·er·cion
kōˈərZHən,kōˈərSHən/Submit
noun
the practice of persuading someone to do something by using force or threats.

When did she threaten him?

>>132106995
But she coerced him,and this Mr.Burguer,is a crime.

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>>132141496
Learn what coerced means.

>>132140915
>So where is the victim?
He is the victim as he wanted to back out of his plan but the bitch kept pushing on for him to do it.

You white knights are only defending her because she is a woman or better yet a white woman. If this was a man you would be calling for the death penalty because he got a young fertile woman to kill herself.

>>132142112
He wanted to get out of the truck and he wanted to get back in. Don't see where his wanting stopped seeing as he did both of his own free will.

>>132106324
She's a horrible person, but a criminal? Nah.

>>132142535
>He wanted to get out of the truck and he wanted to get back in
She told him to get back in the truck she deserves every bit of prison she gets.
>Don't see where his wanting stopped seeing as he did both of his own free will.
If i convinced a young fertile white woman (most likely a late teen early adult) to kill herself you would want me to die for it as a vagina now is not gonna get the chance to make white babies due to my action.

You know this is the truth.

>>132142852
She told him to go through with his own desires instead of pussing out and inevitably regretting it the next day. I don't see anything wrong with that. But she didn't make him do it, it was still his choice, he wanted to do it. Besides he had already tried to kill himself before, so you can't be sure he wouldn't have gotten back in the truck even if she didn't tell him to, he clearly had the capacity to go through with suicide without her encouragement.

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Women need to learn their place as being under men. That being said, depressed people should be encouraged to remove themselves from the gene pool.

>>132143664
>he clearly had the capacity to go through with suicide without her encouragement.
The minute you actually encourage the suicide to happen to the person (like what she did) is the moment it becomes a crime.

If she did nothing she would not have been arrested but since she told him to do it she deserved to be arrested (especially at the moment of suicide).

>>132144189
So when I tell you "kys" I'm "encouraging suicide" and deserve to be arrested? Because thats what she did, tell him to do it. If anything what she did was better since he actually wanted to kill himself on his own but I might be saying it to someone who wouldn't have even thought about it otherwise. Besides she was been telling him to kill himself, but apparently the only illegal thing she did was tell him to get back in the truck. The verdict makes no sense.

>>132145185
>So when I tell you "kys" I'm "encouraging suicide" and deserve to be arrested?
It is the telling of get back in the car that does it. Just telling someone to kill themselves alone is not a crime but when you encourage the suicide and then tell the person to get back in the car (or whatever method) then it becomes illegal..

>>132146596
That seems wrong, though. He knew exactly what would happen, he was aware of what he was doing, and he is the one who did it. All the agency is with him.

>>132106324
Please stop rehashing this thread. I say this to everyone btw. I'm not trying to bully you or pick on you either. Thanks.

Does Anon know anything about her Pro Bono lawyers Joe Cataldo and Cory Madera.
How many cases have they tried before a jury?
Why did they waive her right to a Jury Trial?

>>132146596
Nope, it was just a bad ruling.

>>132106324
the left thinks they now have leverage. they dont realize the left are more often the ones saying "KYS"

the anti bullying legislation failed to be passed years ago. this is all they have. a single judge not throwing the case out allowing a trial in which tards decided she was at fault and it will be used against them

>>132146907
>>132147410
How fucking retarded are you guys? If you encourage someone to kill them-self, WHILE THEY'RE KILLING THEM-SELF YOUR RESPONSIBLE. Am i just getting meme´d? Is this just reverse fucking beta white-knights?!

>>132148059
I bet you wouldn't say that about all the people in the chat who tell someone to go ahead and kill themselves while the person is live streaming their suicide.

>>132148059
Telling someone to do something isn't compelling them to comply. Also, he wanted to die. Why the proxy?

>>132106324
>The boy wanted to die
No he didn't cuck, he was hesitant every step of the way up until the moment he got out of the car high on fumes and the cunt persuaded him once again to step inside. Oh, wait this is another 2/10 rephrased bait, and Mr. "1 post by this ID" isn't even going to read the 300 replies before making another one.

>>132149965
>Didn't want to die
>Killed himself

Nice logic.

>>132106324
Why dont you please this goblin-looking whore and kill yourself?

>>132120646
"that's a great idea! let me call some representatives"

>>132106454
Fpbp

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>>132106709
I agree
>if I murder you, I dindu nuffin because you're dead and there is no victim
OP should khs

>>132123379
Same retarded argument can be applied to your retarded argument.

>>132151966
Are you stupid. If you really didn't understand in the OP what "no victim" meant then read
>>132106995

>>132141319

Force.

What is love,baby dont hurt me

>>132153393
She didn't force him, she wasn't even there when he did it.

>>132153612

She used the force

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>>132106324
>sending texts
because no crime can be committed through text, surely

>>132107334
She tried repeatedly, but the twat was determined to die. Can't help stupid, and stupid didn't leave her alone.

>>132120646
Wow, just wow. pretty funny

Reminds me of this:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-38757650

Guy was jailed for five and a half years for not helping someone who was drowning.

>>132106324
SHE'S CRYING! EVERYONE STOP! CASE CLOSED, NOT GUILTY!

>Casey Anthony is free
>This girl is (potentially) going to jail

>>132154358
Holy fuck how is it living in the Faroe Islands?

>>132122501
KYS

>>132106995
If someone tortures you until you want to die and you kill yourself I guess there really is no victim.

>>132164335
You know she didn't torture him right?

Am I the only one who thought the guy acted like a complete pussy for killing himself. The only reason the fags on this board support him is because a woman told a man to kill himself and he did. If it was the other way around you all would have found it hilarious. Anybody who kill themselves over a text is a bitch. Have some consistency you tards.

>>132106324
What I don't get is why would you want to kill yourself when you have a girlfriend like that.
WHY BRO

>>132164453
Torture is not the only way to make someone want to kill himself.

>>132164743
No-one has suggested he isn't a complete pussy and a great deal of people in this thread and other threads have clearly defended the girl, you're getting mad over things that are only happening in your head.

>>132165114
He was suicidal without her, he had tried killing himself before without her, so she's not to blame for him wanting to kill himself.

>>132165367
If he really wanted to kill himself he wouldn't have failed before.

It's clear she made him want to kill himself.

>>132160205
quite cozy. AMA

>>132165506
He explicitly states he wants to kill himself, even while she tells hims not to and to get help, and had even tried killing himself before. It's obvious he wanted to kill himself and it had nothing to do with her.

>>132165852
If he really wanted to kill himself he would've done so without her.

It's clear she had an effect on his decision enough to make him kill himself.

>>132165616
we beat you in the island games mate

>>132166615
>If he really wanted to kill himself he would've done so without her.

He tried.
>inb4 suicidal people can't ever have failed suicides

>>132106324
Looking for attention again?

>>132166842
Haven't payed attention to it. How did it go?

>>132165616
How welcome are brits (scottish)?

>>132107930
huh and you guys wonder why people think autism is inherent in fascists

>>132108226
wrong

>>132167018
If he really wanted to kill himself he wouldn't have failed.

>>132168475
There are plenty of people who have attempted suicide, which would have reasonably resulted in their deaths and resulted in the deaths of other people, like ODing, and they just happened not to die. Your logic is if they died, then they really wanted to die, and if they didn't then they didn't want to die? That makes no sense.

>>132106324

Don't be stupid.

>>132106454
fpbp

>>132167518
Very welcome, would be my guess. Many people here seem to really like Brits. Can't say the same about United Statians though

>>132169069
He's saying that if someone wants to truly die and they try to die but it doesn't work they'll try again until it does work.

>>132107930
The reason suicide is a crime is so police can intervene by breaking your door to save your life if they arrive in time. It is a crime to allow responders the tools they need to save the (useless) person' life.

>>132139778
You're only now realizing this? Welcome to the internet.

She did nothing wrong. Its his fault that he killed himself

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>>132124396
Gee whiz, what a revolutionary concept. People who are encouraged by their support net to do something are more likely to do it than if they hadn't been encouraged. It's almost as if you are literally autistic and don't understand basic human behavior