I just build this freedom dispenser for less than $350. It helps

>>132104141
Is this only 350? Cant I buy it in Parts and ship it here.

Namely the fact the parts are illegal where i live

>>132104228
Just under $350 with shipping and tax.
Probably not, Netherlands is not a free country where the people can have guns.

>>132104372
And why is it illegal? Take the power back.

>>132104228
possibly although there may be companies unwilling to ship overseas. but worth the try look into 80% lowers

>>132104141
Built it huh? Show us your lathe you used to make each part.

>>132104141
>>132104419
So you gonna tell me your build so I can buy yet another AR for cheap as shit or just tease the Europoors to feel superior to those freedom hating faggots? Hook me up, nigger. I should buy some optics for my other ones but for that cheap, fuck it. Might as well get another one.

>>132104372
You can own an AR-15 in the UK. It just has to be straight-pull. So completely fucking useless as an actual AR-15.

>>132104141
>It helps me protect my family and myself from invaders.

Nice work!
But in what area do you live where you and your family is constantly invaded?

>>132104661
AR Stoner Complete Upper $139
Anderson Lower $29.99
Carry Handle $45
Tactical Superiority Lower Parts Kit $39.99
DSA Buffer Tube Kit $19.99
Shipping $22.99
FFL FEE $25
Total $321.96

Cheap as fuck bruh. Used a coupon on midway for the upper.

>>132104760
Sorry to break it down to you but in 2017, every area of the civilized world is under constant threat of "invasion".

>>132104141
>What's your excuse, Europoors?

Excuse for what? Living in a civilized society where our families aren't being invaded?

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>>132104883
You have autism. the only invaders are the jews and you won't do crap to them with an AR.

>>132104883
>every area of the civilized world is under constant threat of "invasion"


Good luck, mate!
I guess I've managed to stay out of regions of threat in the last 36 years, but maybe I'll be fucked at some point.

>>132104141
If you have a $350 AR you are in for some major disappointment in between 12 to 18 months (depending on how often you fire it). Any AR built for under $600 is going to look great when its new but then fall apart rapidly like like the cheap Chinese toys you had in the 90's. plus I'd bet money that fucker is probably a 3 or 4 MOA rifle rendering it practically useless past 200 meters.

The basic metric for an AR is supposed to be that it is effective on point targets the size of a man at out to 500 meters. If your rifle cannot hit at least 7 out of 10 shots fired on such a target at such a range then it is a horrible AR.

>>132104141
Will you be stroking that 'freedom dispensor' on your deathbed in your 30% white country or a different 'freedom dispensor'?
Which one of your mixed race grandkids will inherent your 'freedom dispensor'?

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>>132104141
>freedom dispenser

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>>132104760
>>132104982
Yeah Europe is safe from invasion, lads. No need for those pesky guns to protect your family. Europe is safe and awesome!

>>132104141
I'm nogunz but it seems to be that $350 is a little too cheap for a firearm, no?
I'd be afraid it would jam the one time I'd need to use the gun to protect my home

>>132105096
Who cares Hans? When something fails I'll buy new parts.

I'm not gonna shoot at invaders from 500 yards, I can't see dark targets this far out.

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>>132104489
He didn't say he machined the parts you goddamn mongrel, he said built as in assembled. ARs are modular and can be built from the ground you, customized completely, with very few specialized tools. How the fuck do you not know this and have an American flag?

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>>132104760
Austria is quite high by European standards so your own countrymen obviously disagree.

>>132104141
Flag related.

I have a weihrauch springer regulated to 11.5ft lbs and a nice optisan 10x that keeps me in practice. But really, 11.5ft lbs.. fml. Anything over 12 is classified as a firearm with all the attendant bullshit.

You can get 20ft lbs with an aftermarket spring and 35ft lbs by rubbing a little light oil on the skirt of the pellet...... but that would be illegal.

>>132104419
>Just under $350 with shipping and tax.
We are going to see how many time ur shit going to work.

btw in Switzerland I have a glock, SKS and my FASS90/SIG550.

>>132104141
>Europoors?
12 year old detected

>>132105427
Weird how 12 year olds can and have been accepted for shotgun certificates whether it be for clay shooting but you have to be 16 or over to own a 4.5mm air pistol.

>>132105312
>>132105520
It's mostly a range toy that I'm gonna use to humblebrag with the buddies about the cost. These aren't chinese shit though it's not gonna break apart after the first mag.

The upper itself is decent and can shoot sub MOA with good ammo.

>>132105414
>WaPo data
fucking kek, Serbia is 2nd after USA

>Guns are the only things you're geniuinely fascinated at this points because you developed anhedonia from too much weed and videogames
>You live in a no-guns country

THANK YOU BASED BOUDINE LE ENEMY OF THE JEWS AND SABIOUR OF DE WHITE RACE WHO ONLY ALLOWS HIS PET MUSLAMIC MOUNTAIN-NIGGERS TO HAVE GUNS WITH NO PROBLEM BUT IF YOU RUSSIAN YOU GO TO PRISON

SO BASED SO WHITE

fuck i wish i could find a RIDF shill and just fucking go to town on it for spreading these cancerous LE BASED memes

>>132105708
>Russia
>noguns

wut is that real?

>>132104489
Retard

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>>132104141
>implying

btfo

>>132105333
>Invaders
Whatever, enjoy your $350 paperweight. I hear these AR-15 paperweights are very popular in the USA.
White Americans like to own 5-6 of them. This way when they die of old age they can proudly proclaime 'I own six AR-15 paperweights'.

Holy shit $350? Link me the parts, I live in Commiefornia so I might have to switch some out.

>>132104141
What about us? I own 8 firearms myself, and I will soon add the Steyr AUG A3 Z to my collection. And a 7.62 DMR from Schmeisser next January.

>>132105312
merican (in europe atm). a $350 AR is nothing to brag about. such an AR in the gun world is like buying a used FIAT for 500 euros and bragging that none of the people using the train will ever know the luxuries and freedom of owning a personal car.

If OP knew jack shit about guns he'd know most AR's for under $500-$600 are what the gun community refer to as "Bubba's Gun shop Specials." (the joke being that every gunshop owner named bubba with a buddy who is a machinist can now crank out shitty knockoff parts for AR15's since the patents are now public domain."

The ultimate cheapest AR anyone should buy is the Ruger 5.56 for about $400 to$500, and oits considered the rock bottom entry level rifle for gun owners who plan to shoot it to pieces in a few years learning how to shoot before buying a much nicer and more expensive one for about $600 to $800.

Competition grade AR's run up to $3500 but nobody who isn't routineley shooting at 500+ meter reanges or doing specialized speed shooting competitions should be buying one unless they just feel like wasting money (imagine buying a ferarri to go to the store for groceries on sundays). Ideally midlevel AR's are best. Rock bottom builds like OP's are pure shit and the top shelf models are usually better rifles than the shooters using them are capable of exploiting.

>>132105855
>>132104883
Stuff on sale + coupons on midway.
Carry handle from ebay.

>>132105991
Good for you bro keep fighting the good fight.

>>132105618
>shotgun certificate

Why would anyone do this? You have to agree to allow the firearm pigs into your home 24x7 to inspect your shit and at the first sign of trouble they will be back to confiscate it.

You can't even use it for home defence without having to explain why, exactly, you had time to get it out of its police approved and inspected wall-safe and load it at the precise time the niggers/pikeys/muzzies/scousers tried to pull the home invasion.

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>>132105828
>>132104141

>implying again

>>132104372
>illegal
so was rebelling against the crown but here I am

>>132106130
Why wouldn't you? The inspection is a 10 minute affair, or over a cup of tea, with your FEO (firearms enquiry officer). He inspects the firearms locker, gives it a pull to make sure its secure to the wall, and either says "No, it's not secure" or "yes it is" - if its the latter, saying nothing of the rest of the process, it's over.

There were only 100 weapon confiscations in 2016. Out of 3 million gun owners.

>>132106013
>such an AR in the gun world is like buying a used FIAT for 500 euros and bragging that none of the people using the train will ever know the luxuries and freedom of owning a personal car.

Is that your compelling argument against cheap ARs? And who said I don't own better quality rifles?

>>132105520
Got a Korth Classic Pistole PRS . 45 ACP, a Mauser 66 Repetierer 7x64 and a SIG Sauer Sturmgewehr M 400 Enhanced .223 Rem

livin the american dream in switzerland

>>132105781

Yes? You didn't know?

>>132106253
>Korth
Did you win the lottery Swissbro?

>>132106252
>And who said I don't own better quality rifles?
If u own better rifles and u buy a shitty AR, u are just a literal dumbass.

>>132105335
He said built and not ordered the parts and put together like a PC. Next thing you you know, Ahcmed will say he built a CPU too.

>>132104141
I don't have a family to protect.

>>132105096
I like that people think that avg citizens will ever engage threats at 500 meters.

>>132104760
>Mr. American, Why do you really need free speech, or the right to bear arms?
Well the great thing about rights is you do not need a valid reason to exercise them, but I will indulge.

I wear my seat-belt in my car even though I'm a safe driver and people drive well and I never plan to crash. Have you seen roads and drivers in third world countries?
Just because the world is safer doesn't mean you should just take no precautions. I would rather have a last line of defense if something went wrong.

So in short, I would rather be called paranoid and made fun of than show up in a news story as a victim where my whole family was tied up and youngest to oldest were axe murdered while we were forced to watch.

Also, I think guns are cool and I enjoy owning, cleaning, and practicing with them.

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>>132105333
Im merican, im just in germany on vacation. I own a bushmaster competition rifle because I spent 8 years in the Marine Corps shooting AR's and I can shoot pretty well at long ranges with it. I also own an Ak47, a grenade launcher, and I routinley build my own guns in addition to my collection of assorted ww2 weaponry.

When I say build I dont mean slapping a bunch of bottom shelf bubba's gunshop bits together and declaring it something I "made myself." I straight up machine my own guns from scratch. I have been shooting guns since I was 5, and building them since I was 12.

Your rifle is shit. My home machined 9mm carbine will outshoot your crappy M4 knockoff because unlike your rifle, mine is 1 MOA,. I take it to the range every weekend and out shoot trash builds like yours out to 200 yards with it on a regular basis, and its only in 9mm.

Im not personally attacking you, but your rifle is trash.

>>132106526
Quantity over quality. You'll learn that when SHTF.

>>132105850
Someone sounds jealous after their buyback program.

>>132105096
>3 or 4 MOA
>Useless past 200 meters
You really know nothing about guns or math.

>>132106681
I think we have a new copypasta boys

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Daily reminder that Globalists in a America and all over the world spread propaganda that purposefully misrepresents and twists the wording of the American 2nd Amendement.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diz-8FzHOLM

If there is no armed citizenry in your country all it means is that S L A V E R Y was perfected there.

>>132106681
I would like to see your targets from 200 meters

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>>132106771
Good idea to have 4 AR, 2 for the hands, 2 for feets.

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>>132104228

You can, but you'd need a lot of paperwork..

>>132104419
>Probably not, Netherlands is not a free country where the people can have guns.

Unlike United Statians, we are actually able to import firearms from abroad. Granted: We need to jump through loads more hoops than you do, but at least we CAN legally import firearms from places like the US and Switzerland.


You try importing an SG550 from Switzerland, or the Netherlands for that matter, and see how you fare.

>>132106921
No worries, our pro-gun lobbies are very vocal. If you tried to ban high capacity magazines in my state people would start open carrying their rifles as a form of protest.

>>132106240
In case of civil unrest or tighter firearms laws the fewer lists you're on the better. I spent 20yrs in the US and love to shoot anything I can get my hands on but no way in hell am I registering myself with the totalitarian shabbos goyim - er, I mean the gov't - as being a gun owner.

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>>132106921
Daily reminder that Trump is getting impeached over Russian propaganda

>>132105520
At some point in the future if you're near Geneva...ANYONE ever met a polack IRL?

>>132106253
no i started with another 1911 cant remember wich one was the first... so i exchanged her for a better one and then a better one. The story goes on and i ended with a Korth

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>>132105427
>I have a weihrauch springer regulated to 11.5ft lbs

Kek. I still don't fully understand why Krauts and Pommies have such retarded laws for airguns.. Not even we do, and our gun culture is literally non-existent.

>>132107092

Ok Maxine Waters

>>132106771
>having 20 other shitty rifles is going to help you when the first one jams in the moment of need

>>132107169
b-but permits

>>132104718
>straight-pull
Bolt action. For those of you as confused as I was.

>>132107240
Good quality for EDC, the others in the safe or buried somewhere. How is that difficult to understand?

>>132107210
It's because UK gun legislation is a joke that wasn't assembled or looked over in a single document, its just a collection of different bits of legislation dating from the end of the 19th century and most are responses to the modernising of firearms. As I said, there are 12-16 year old firearm license holders in this country but you have to be 16 to own even a 4.5mm airpistol.
>>132107281
Yeah, that. It's a work around of British laws. But it does make the concept of an AR pointless.
>>132107040
Granted, but in the case of civil rest, you wouldn't want to be disarmed.

>>132107240
The quickest reload is a second gun.

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>>132104141
we have cops
they're effective provided you dont live in the muslim ghetto
just dont be poor or you're screwed

>>132104141
Fire it, pussy. I bet it'll fucking explode.

>>132106681

Nice larping Hans

>>132107013
>high capacity magazines

>implying they're not standard capacity most of the time this is mentioned

You've already fallen victim to their narrative. Stop spreading their memes, it will only harm your cause.

>>132107394
but shooting a criminal is faster than calling the cops and waiting for them to come save your ass

>>132107344
Now you're just contradicting yourself. Also
>hold on guys. Let me just go dig up some guns before you attack..

Jesus Christ I bet youre a leaf

>>132107002
>he fell for the spanish language meme

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>>132107386
>It's because UK gun legislation is a joke

Pistol regulations are my favorite bit.

Dutch gun laws are pretty draconian, but at least once you've jumped through all of the hoops involved you can just buy normal gun that function normally.. None of this clotheshanger and straight-pull crap.

>>132104141
I've got the same helmet as you.

>>132107002
Our import laws only really apply to Russia and china. The other caveat is that an imported rifle cannot have been manufactured as a military weapon (IE if it was a machinegun but then was converted to semi auto it still cant be imported.)

Switzerland doesnt make a hell of a lot more SG550's than they need and they dont really export them for civilian sale much so theyre pretty expensive, but you can get them in the US just fine if you are willing to pay $4,000 for a rifle that is not really any more accurate than a $2500 custom match rifle you can just have built for you in the USA. Its a neat collector's item because its the most accurate mass produced infantry rifle in use by a nations military, but that doesn't mean its the most accurate rifle you can get for less money in the US.

>>132107432
No, when I say high capacity I mean drum mags. I prefer 20 rounders myself but as the saying goes.
SHALL

>>132107505

>his nation doesn't have a language of its own

It's ok m8, everybody has their issues.

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>>132107463
but we dont get assaulted around here mate
well the trucks of peace have changed this tbqh

>>132107520
Oh yeah, utterly ridiculous for Britain. Luckily I'm from Northern Ireland (or maybe not lucky since its NI), and handguns are legal here. We have the rest of British gun legislation though, besides from conceal carry under a PPW.

>>132107388
Which is why you buy two good guns.
Also he wants to keep his extras in a safe or lol, fucking buried.

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>>132104141
><350

>>132105096
>The basic metric for an AR is supposed to be that it is effective on point targets the size of a man at out to 500 meters

Citation needed.

Also most of us have far better rifles for long ranges; cartridges with "magnum" in the name for preference.

>>132107586
You're just a nogun arguing semantics and being overwhelmingly jealous here.

>>132107394

Typical frog, "muh trust in the state", those are the same police who will be throwing you in prison soon in the name of the EU, and you won't have shit to resist with.

>>132107423
totally not larping. I'm from Montana, I build guns, Im married to a German and we go to Germany to visit family in the summer. Just cuz you dont ever leave the country doesn't mean I dont.

I guess yer half right though, I do have dual citizenship between Germany and the USA (as of last month I do anyways) cuz I spend so much time between the two countries it just made more sense. makes it easier for me to do business here in Germany since you need such paperwork to open a bank account or buy a phone and I spent about 3 to 4 months a year here.

>>132107581
>here
i also live in this shithole full of sand niggers
i wish gun laws weren't so strict

>>132104141
I can own rifles and shot guns but don't feel the need. It's safe here.

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>>132106858
>>132106681
yup pretty good
it lacked some overemphasis but it's still great as is

>>132106681

And I bet you my LWRC-I will outshoot the piece of shit you made in your basement.

>>132107586
The reasoning behind safes and burial is that eventual possibility of confiscation/harsh regulation. In the confiscation situation shits getting close to hitting the fan. You need a good loadout plus extras for others that will be with you for when the S actually HTF. Storing multiples is more of an investment for the harsh regulation stage. This has already happened here once with the 94 Clinton AWB. OPs basic bitch $350 rifle would've easily been worth 4x that back then just for being legally owned and existing.

>>132104141
>tfw when your home gun producer is overpriced and its cheaper to buy murican shit tier guns instead of cz.

anyway bren > m4

>>132107386
>Granted, but in the case of civil rest, you wouldn't want to be disarmed.

That's my point m90. They will proactively disarm you as long as they have the means to do so if they have any reason to suspect you'll use your gats for self-defence.

Too lazy to jewgle it but there was a case a couple years ago where a family got into a dispute with some pikeys and the police proactively disarmed them.

>>132107732
no dude it's not about trusting in the state
it's about not living in a shithole surrounded by crazzed niggers
euro society is very different
niggers stay in their pens
mostly
until recently

anyway who wants an AR for home defense it's ridiculous

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>>132107610
The AR is a military rifle, its minimum charecteristics are 500 meters max range on point targets and 800 meters max range on area targets. Military AR platforms are usually beat to shit and trashy so if your rifle cannot fire as well as one of these 30 year old pieces of shit that they issued to us in Afghan then your AR is sub-par.

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>>132107765
>>132107922
Good thing it's not a Bill of Needs or Bill of Wants then.

>>132107755
so do I
but we're still safer without guns than murribros are, armed to the teeth as they are

>>132107976
yeah i'm all for the US constitution and against the euro slavery pen
i'd get armed if i lived in the US, or live among armed to the teeth white people either way
gun culture, militia, etc
that's real america

>>132107976
What are you talking about? I have the right to own rifles and shotguns. It just doesn't seem necessary here.

>>132107748

I was kidding bruh you obviously know your shit, I think I've seen you post your Sten builds on /k/ before

>>132107552

Again: Try importing a SG550 from Switzerland and see how you fare.


Also, they're not rare by a longshot, just expensive.

>>132107826
HTe bet wasnt that your LWRC-I will out shoot it, the bet is that my carbine will out shoot OP's trash build. You've got an upper end rifle there, and the claim was not that I can outshoot ANY AR platform with my garage built carbine, its that my build can out shoot these $300 contraptions that guys slap together from bottom shelf poorly fit craptastic parts.

>>132107922

IT CAN'T HAPPEN HERE

Again, it isn't niggers you should be worrying about

>>132105520
post 550 Swissbro

>>132108257
yeah we have zero defense against the state, i know
this isnt the 40s when 75% of the pop were farmers and owned guns

>>132108152
yeah. idk, im not tryin to be on a high horse but I actually build my own shit and when some guy buys an upper and a lower and pins em together then declares "IMA GUNSMITH! I BUILT THIS MYSELF!" its kinda irritating. Especially when he goes to people from other countries who know nothing about guns to try and impress them with his trashcan AR that would get him laughed out of most serious shooting groups.

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>>132104141

Pic related is a much cheaper protection alternative. Also great for hunting, silent but deadly.

>>132104141
>hurrrrr me just build this

Isn't it funny how every time one of you gun fetishists attempts to communicate with the real world you can never do so with proper grammar and spelling? It's almost as if YOU'RE ALL DUMB AS FUCK

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>>132108042

The 2nd Amendement is unironically the greatest thing Americans have created in their entire history. I'm not a xenophile or usaboo, i'm just laying it like is - Founding Fathers were the greatest group of political philodophers and political scientists ever assembled for a task of creating a society of the future, and it shows in all they wrote.

2nd Amendment is genius, the fact that my countrymen and Europeans talk shit about goes to show how perpetually cucked they are in their own minds about taking responsibility.

It is the philisophy of Freedom. the science of Freedom.

>>132108182
ok gun expert, so what should op have bought instead?

>>132108350
Most of our police don't even carry guns. It's nice.

>>132108350
yeah ofc
the most polite societies are the one where everyone is armed

>>132104141
>16" barrel
>Carbine length gas
Oh, anon.

you should be on the border not in your home idiot

>>132108350
The second amendment is English common law and has existed since the 11th century under the Assize of Arms 1125. You think the founders just pulled it out of their ass?

>>132108468
12thcentury*

>>132108313
A 350 bucks AR is nothing to laugh about.
Is it as reliable as BCM/KAC/whatever? Surely not. Does it shoot 5.56? Yes.

>>132108432
>$150 complete upper

>>132108358
according to /k/, he should have bought the most expensive thing they are selling and to make sure it matches their shoes and fingernail polish.

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>>132107922
> who needs an assault rifle anyway?

> It's not like my country has been invaded by Muslims and niggers

>>132108182
You are sitting here bragging about your rifle and calling OPs shit. Which is why I brought up mine and called yours shit.
As a former marine you should be happy that OP has a rifle, even if it is $350.

>>132108413

>m-muh police

The Second Amendment is quite explicitly about the people. The citizens. The general population. Not police or other armed government forces.

>>132108468

When did it stop existing in Britain?

>>132104141
Not living in a 3rd world shithole.

>>132108586
25 people were shot in one of your night clubs today. Seen it on the news.

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>>132108468
>>132108505

>appointment of constables

Yeah, no, stop taking credit for Mason's and Madison's work and educate yoursefl on whait truly means, you Eternal Anglo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diz-8FzHOLM

>>132108625
What has that got to do with anything? I said I like having an unarmed police force.

>>132106218
You didn't do that though. You wouldn't lift a fucking finger

>>132108586
for home defense a rifle is pretty ridiculous
it's either shotgun or handgun but /k/bros should confirm that
shotgun will shoot through walls though so it's a liability
your AR is made to shoot from 200M onward
it's too bulky to move through your home with, or to react quickly to a threat away from your center of vision

>>132104141
>wasting capital on junk you'll barely ever use

Guncucks, not ever once

>>132104141
>Built
NO! You bought parts and assembled it like a lego kit you child!

>>132108693
Then why do SWAT teams and Special Forces use ARs to clear houses if its too bulky to move through a home or react quickly to a threat?

>>132108468

hahahaha

get blacked britbong and go sip some tea

youre policemen are clowns

>>132104141
Why that baby size magazine? Don't tell me you live in a cucked state that restricts magazine capacity?

>"muh freedom muh amendement"
top fucking kek

>>132108625
Well, it was made Constitutional in the Bill of Rights 1689. The first gun seizures took place in the Scottish highlands, and they disarmed Scottish warriors. That was 1826. But until 1908, all of Britain was free to own firearms with a license which cost 1 shilling from the post office.

It was an extremely slow process, starting in 1908 up until the most recent 2001 legislation on guns, but 1908 is when it all started.
>>132108661
I'm not taking credit for it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assize_of_Arms_of_1181

It was all free citizens.

See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_of_Rights_1689#Provisions_of_the_Act

"Protestants may have arms for their defence suitable to their conditions and as allowed by law;"

This law governed the colonies. The Founding Fathers had the right to bear arms under British control. There were gun seizures when the Revolution began, but the right remained for Loyalists to bear arms.

>>132108776

Yes the UK is a joke now but there's still pro-gun people like me.

>>132104141
I really hope you don't fire that inside your home at invaders you dumb cunt. Get a fucking shotgun for that.

>>132108680

>What has that got to do with anything?

My point exactly. Why bring up armed police in relation to a post praising the 2nd Amendmend?

>>132104141
Small magazine.

>>132108358
For an entry level AR? A Ruger 5.56, already stated as much. It's retail price is about $500 but you can shop around and bargain and find em as low as $450. They are cheap and most assuredly not GREAT AR platforms, but they have a reputation for decent quality and reliability and they don't cost a ton. They wont give you issues like poorly fit parts with assorted different tolerances which leads to reliability issues and piss poor accuracy. The entire point of an AR is accuracy, its like the only thing over an AK-47 that the AR platform really can brag about. If you have an AR that fires as inaccurately as an AK-47 then you've taken the one real reason to own an AR over an AK-47 away and might as well have just bought an AK for the more powerful caliber and rugged reliability that the AR platform has historically had troubles with.

AR: Accurate, modular, with a weaker caliber and a history of reliability issues
AK: Inaccurate, not very modular, Higher powered cartridge and legendarily reliable.

Bubba ARs have a natsy habit of posessing none of the positive traits supposed to be inherent to the AR whilst still posessing all of its flaws. If you want a cheap inaccurate rile you buy an AK, if you want a cheap accurate rifle you buy an AR from a reputable manufacturer. If you are going to build your own its gonna be trash unless you really do your homework and spend some money.

>>132108661
"The fifth and last auxiliary right of the subject, that I shall at present mention, is that of having arms for their defence, suitable to their condition and degree, and such as are allowed by law. Which is also declared by the same statute I W. & M. st.2. c.2. and is indeed a public allowance, under due restrictions, of the natural right of resistance and self-preservation, when the sanctions of society and laws are found insufficient to restrain the violence of oppression."
- Sir William Blackstone's Commentaries on the Laws of England

>>132108814
>It was an extremely slow process, starting in 1908 up until the most recent 2001 legislation on guns, but 1908 is when it all started.

Ours was very quick. The just banned the unregulated ownership of firearms in the 1920s out of fear of popular uprising. Most notably, the fear was for a Socialist/Communist revolution.

Don't expect the average Dutch person to know this though. They just meme on American gun laws and the alleged stupidity of them, not realising our own gun laws exist only to protect the government from it's subjects.

>>132108938
nice, thanks, makes sense

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lmao at that pleb gun

>>132108989
They used a massacre here called the Dunblane shooting to put quick and harsh legislation on firearms here which is how it really went to shit, that banned handguns permanently and carrying firearms basically anywhere outside of transportation purposes.

>>132104141
Links kind sir. If you would pkease.

>>132104883
just wondering, what is the legality on building a gun from parts in america, do you have to register it or something?

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>>132109207
pic is m POF P308 with Luth MBA stock and 4-16x50 Vortex scope

This is my side charging .458 Socom pistol built from an 80% lower with a Vortex red dot

>>132109367
if you build an 80% lower, nobody knows you have it, all other parts besides the lower can be shipped to your door

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>>132104141
Why just one assault rifle?
Man I tell you if my hometown had armory shop I could pick shooter I like with no bureaucracy I would probably spend all my savings all the cool shit.
And second thing you burgers got right is open carry, taking that dual wield to test drive.
I would buy more guns if I was you and fucktons of cool bullets.

>>132108859
You didn't make any point at all. Having disarmed police and an armed populace is as much the opposite of a police state as it's possible to be which is the situation here.
I can own rifles and shotguns but the police arnt carrying guns for the most part and as I said earlier, it's nice.

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>>132108331
Unless youre a literal mongoloid, no. Finns might get by, but the rest of us? Hello no.

Pic thread related, my carry and my scary

>>132108641
yes they were shot with a pistol by the nigger rapper on stage.....and still no one was killed.

>>132108774
To be a pedant, thoose are more likely m4s or ar carbines.

>>132109370
if you wanted a left side side charger you could've gotten a gibbz or x products or something like the BAR style

>>132109367
If the gun is legal to own its legal to build, but state laws vary. Look at your states laws whether a home built rifle is required to be registered or not. In my home state of Montana you can build more or less whatever you want and as long as it complies with federal regs on what is legal to own it doesn't gotta be registered. If you live in a cucked state like commiefornia you gotta build it to comply with both federal and state regs and still register it with the state.

>>132109588
Lol why did someone on stage shoot into a crowd? What a retard.

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>>132109662
I wanted it to reciprocate

>>132104141
I have no excuse. Kalashnikovs creations are inherited where I come from.

>>132106681
Pog

>>132106013
>gun community refer to as "Bubba's Gun shop Specials."
Never heard this, you are a fucking faggot

>>132109866
>neckbeard starter pack

>>132109866
>reciprocating charging handle
pleb

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>>132104141
I havent bought a AR15 because i got my rifle and pistol for free from the government...

>>132106013
You're retarded.

>>132106587
I am a complete and utter faggot : the post

>>132109207
Is that from Daytona?

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>>132106681
>I spent 8 years in the Marine Corps
oh

>>132109370
I would love to clone that, but ffs it's expensive to shoot @$1.59/rd the cheapest

>>132110756
Honestly jelly, medpack.
I would have preferred the army let me keep my m1a2 after my six years, than the 20% I get now.

>>132111104
I run 300gn jhp at $2.87/rd

>>132110933
Patriot Ordnance Factory P308

>>132104141
there are plenty of guns here
can you get your hands on an HK G3 for $1000? I can so stfu and tremble in fear of niggers coming to rape and kill you

>>132111945
>can you get your hands on an HK G3 for $1000?
yes

Where i live i do not need a gun to feel safe. Must suck to live in such a hostile country.

>>132111985
full auto, not your pleb liberty-approved version

>>132104141
Damn firearms have got supercheap. I wonder how low they can go?
Is ammo cheap now too?

>>132113397
>Is ammo cheap now too?
yes

ammoseek.com

>>132113397
>>132113475
19.5 cents per round

https://www.outdoorlimited.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=wmc223fmj55

>>132104141

>living in the greatest country on the face of the earth

i dont need an excuse, my state provided me with a 4000$ precision rifle for free.

>>132113668
post rifle

>>132105252
*builds a wall*
pshh nothing personnel refugee kids

>>132113706

its an sg550

im thinking about buying a p226 soon

>>132112002
Why would an Ahmed like you be afraid of the limp wristed feminine swede boys?

>>132113795
Yeah, all those middle eastern kids and woman, sure do look like ugly dudes.

You burger fags go all high and mighty, but when the time comes, unless theres solid evidence that the perpetrator was going to endanger your life, you are always fucked in court.

Its like Trumptards eating eggs on California during the election. Besides... a fucking AR? What, you store it in your pocket for self defense lol?

>>132109736
probably trying to shoot a rival gang member but they have shitty aim.

>>132104141
Man, the M16 style makes the AR15 look so ugly. Especially that ribbed hand-guard. Plastic is one thing, but it just looks so Wal-Mart quality. What a waste.

I haven't gotten around to building a gun from a lower yet. I'm thinking I'll probably go the 80% lower route at some point, for a combination of my first build and my first AR15. Maybe I'll try a 3D printed lower first, and see how that goes.

>>132104141
Why tiny mag bro? Gen 2 30 rnd Pmags are like $10 online/$13 retail. Also not a big fan of the carry handle but to each their own.

>>132106218
They don't want it to happen again

>>132109524
It's not an assault rifle you mongrel.

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>>132105335
He's just being a LARP faggot.
Queer probably doesn't even know how to program a CNC machine, let alone put an AR together properly.

>>132107936
I'm glad Marines are always dying

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>>132115606

>>132109367
The only registered part with a serial number is the lower receiver

The rest are just springs and metal

>>132115858
don't you have serials on bolts and barrels?
in yurop, controlled items are bolts/slides, barrels, frames/receivers

>>132116045
>don't you have serials on bolts and barrels?
no

>>132109367
There is no gun registry in the US. Purchasing a gun from a dealer requires a background check, but no record of what you purchased (or if you changed your mind mid-check) is kept. Some states don't require a background check when the sale is private, which leads to the so-called "Gun Show" loophole.

Making guns yourself is completely legal, and a simple shotgun can be made from a piece of pipe, some wood for the stock, and a few small parts for the firing pin assembly. However, unless you have a manufacture's license, you cannot sell a firearm you created (I'm not sure on the legality of gifts), and the gun still has to follow federal, state, and local laws.

The lower receiver of an AR15 is the only part with a serial number, and is technically the only part that counts as a gun. But 80% lowers, or lower receivers that are only 80% milled, are still legally considered a block of aluminum/steel. So you can get around the restrictions on shipping a gun through the mail if you have the means to mill out the rest of the receiver, and all the other parts are just accessories that are unrestricted anyway. You can also buy a small milling machine specifically designed to finish an 80% lower.

>>132116045
No

Just lower receivers. You can have a fully functioning upper, a magazine that can't fit more than the state allowed rounds in it and stock as if they were just metal parts as long as you don't put them all together with a lower reciever

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>>132115046
Here.

>>132117268
Are 80% losers legal even in CA?

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>>132118121

>>132118171
>in CA?
Who cares. Just build an uncucked rifle and keep it secret. Buy or build a cucked rifle for training/range use.

>>132104141
I am secure and safe in my home and country, i am the defender of it and all males of worth are defenders of it.

I do not need a weapon, my country is secure and i make it secure... and people watching out for safety of all are on the side of the people.

Why do you need a weapon to keep yourself secure in your country?

>>132104141
If your country isn't a shithole you shouldn't be afraid of anybody with malicious intentions towards you or desperation for materialistic objects

>>132104141
Can you at least list the list?

>>132118604
ignore him he is a slave like the rest of us yuropoors

>>132118767
actually yeah our countries are shitholes please dont come

>>132118346
dafuk? Thats a sexy futuristic looking weapon right there!

>>132118972
get out

>>132105096
That is so fucking false hans, the mil-spec standard for a rifle is 4.5 moa, m855 is also like 3 moa ammo

>>132118121
That's supposed to be the California featureless stock, right? It looks absolutely retarded function-wise, but still more aesthetic than the M16 style.

The basic Thomas the Tank Engine hand-guard that most AR-15's have is good enough. And the M16 carry handle doesn't do any favors either. I just don't get building a decent rifle and then covering it in what looks like Chinese-grade plastic.

>>132118171
Yes, and for the foreseeable future.

However, apparently California made a liar out of me and decided to just up and make a gun registry for their state only. I suspect with a right-leaning SCOTUS, it'll get fucked if ever challenged. So the deal is, if you stamp whatever shit you want as a serial number before July 2018, you're good to go. After that July, you have to apply for a serial from the state for any rifle missing one, and that number gets put on a database.

I really don't know how they plan to catch arbitrary serial numbers getting punched after the date, but whatever.

Source is https://www.80percentarms.com/pages/faq

>>132110098
>guy who wont get raped by a random nigger breaking into his house at night
>lol wat loser doesnt want to get raped by random nigger attacks?
liberals...

>>132118171
Yes, at least until our legislature determines how to make a block of metal illegal because "it might be used for something bad later on."
So for another year, maybe.

>>132104141
>$350

Is a Buschmaster or DPMS isn't it?

>>132119144
Where do I buy all the parts for the same budget?

>>132106013
>Thinks a prefab Ruger AR is better than a custom built one made with quality and expense in mind
>Not realizing one can improve their custom build as necessary
>Hurr I'm an American abroad!

Nice try Hans, you kraut-gobbling fuck

>>132119429
I've yet to build an AR15 myself, but I assume you could just google for a parts list, and then start bargain hunting for each part. Alternatively, I know you can buy parts kits, that include everything except the lower itself, but I doubt that will get you to the < $350 level.

Home-build AR's are so popular nowadays that you'll probably also find a gorrillion videos on Youtube about how to make one, and I bet several include part purchase links.

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>>132104141
>>132105096

>act as if I "know" something about firearms
>toss out the "out to 500 meters" figure b/c it sounds good
>be entirely wrong

Eurotards never fail to amuse me

>>132119429
http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-mid-length-5-56-nato-1-8-nitride-freedom-rifle-kit-516445632.html

Just an example, but this would have all you need minus the lower receiver, which is what the government actually considers a "firearm." You could look at what this kit entails, and source your own parts for cheaper.

It's not too hard, anon. Go for it!

>>132104141
>I just build
>Trump is not a kike dick sucker
>He will make america great again
Delusional american with 2 brains cells working full time to prevent him to shit himself all day long

>>132119835
Thats called work. and work is for certain people.

>>132120516
Just buy an AR15 then.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>132105828
>Olive shooter

>>132104141
Kosher or table salt? Guess it depends on your perp.

>>132105414
>Washington Post
>less guns = green positive color
>more guns = dark red color

really makes me think
t. Belgian gun owner

If The Don lifts Obonogo's import restrictions, I suggest a nice surplus M1 Carbine from South Korea. I have the real deal from WW2 and it's still an excellent rifle. http://www.guns.com/2017/01/27/could-trump-administration-raise-floodgates-on-gun-imports/

My AR I built with a PSA kit and an Anderson arms lower has shot over 1,000 rounds without ever jamming or breaking down in any capacity.

It cost about $450 total, plus a $125 red dot. Not quite as cheap as OPs but I guarantee it will last for a long time as long as I clean it.

>>132120991
False proxy presidents dont count. its like having a blue pope.

>>132104419
>why is it illegal? Take the power back
Even though I would love to, majority of the population here would be completely against it. It would never happen.

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AR boyz

Not worried about protecting myself but its a hell of a lot of fun to take to the range.

>>132104883
Can u link some of these parts? Im onlu finding expensive ones

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>>132119144
>California featureless stock, right?
not sure. thought that one didn't have them thumbhole pistol grip.pic related

>>132121813
What is that called?

>>132104141
Cheaperthandirt.com?

>>132121813
Far as I can tell, the triangle insert is removable (probably after taking the stock off).

Again, it's stupid from a function perspective, but still looks better than the M16 style.

>>132121955
https://www.botach.com/hera-arms-cqr-featureless-stock-california-version/

>>132104883
Ty, thats what i was looking for

>>132109367
Only if you live in one of the shitty states that requires gun registration.

At the federal level, you can build your own guns from scratch without any licensing or registration as long you aren't selling them.

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>>132116045

Nope, the only thing that is legally a firearm on an AR-15 is this bit of aluminum, every other part, triggers, trigger groups, barrels, bolts, bolt carriers, hammers, etc are not considered firearms and can be ordered to your door.

Its part of why AR-15s are so popular, if you have the lower receiver you can basically just order other guns to your front door in the form of upper receivers

You want a .22? Get this https://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/880x660/Primary/133/133311.jpg now your AR is a .22

You want a .50 BMG? get this http://www.safetyharborfirearms.com/products/shtf-uppers/product/43-shtf-50-mag-fed-upper-conversion now your AR is a .50 bmg etc etc

And on top of that you can get an "80% lower" which would be a lower as pictured but with the rear cavity not lathed out, and that's just a piece of aluminum, not legally a firearm allowed, if you are handy you just hollow that bit out and boom you've got a gun

Neat shit.

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>>132104141
Rock it like it's 1848

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>>132104141
I'm a lazy cunt so I had the niggers at Daniel Defense build me one. MK18 upper next purchase.

>>132122111
>https://www.botach.com/hera-arms-cqr-featureless-stock-california-version/


What would a complete build using this stock look like?

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>>132122451
Probably something like this. With a smaller mag if you're in Cali. Actually, I'm not sure about that railz hand-guard; if you're going featureless, you might need to use something else.

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>>132106013

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>>132109557
>debasins Fingolians
riffles are one of the few things Fingolians can be credited for

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>guns can never be outlawed!!
>lmao europoors don't have guns

choose one. Plenty of (il)legal gun owners in Europe.. Crooked governments have no right for a monopoly on violence.

I've seen illegal guns with suppressors, pocket guns, revolvers, 9'mms. You just have to really want it, and you can find it

>>132120733
ayy mlya ya maslinu poymal

>>132104141
My excuse is that here is almost no crimes and if it is then only in the ghetto shit you'll never have to go to of course the third world country usa need guns in every house

>>132123656
>almost no crimes
Didn't I hear tale that you guys had some citizens arrested for hatespeach against muslims refugees? Or am I getting my countries mixed up again?

>>132105618
Or for drinking beer 21

>>132123266
Лoвитe чтo хoтитe , мнe тoлькo вaши кaлaмaти бecплaтнo , гoй.

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>>132123656

Bill of rights, not needs anon.

It's a fundamental difference in thinking between many Europeans and Americans, in your mind people would only want guns out of fear for their own safety, where as most Americans own guns because it's fun.

Unless you live in an actually fucked place

>>132104141
My country is socialist and guns need so much paperwork they might as well be banned

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>>132124198
nooooooooooo, not the kalamata olives!

>>132105850
So how many abos have been your mom's boyfriend?

>>132104141
>be american
>buy a gun
>feel special
>pretend to have a family to protect

>>132124719
Send them goy, i love them on my mizza or just with beer
>Speaking ivan
You ruski on vacation?

>>132106526
You've clearly never bought a range toy or a cheap gun to Frankenstein

>>132104141
I already have couple ARs. Happy to buy one more for 350 USD.

>>132105850
Stay mad, mate... you guys used to have freedom too you know.

>>132124843
No, ruskie friend of mine translated it for me
Still great taste chosenanon, kalamata olives on pizza and with beer/ouzo are patrician taste

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Haenel 310-4. Regularly gets mistaken to be a "real" rifle by my friends.

>>132108341
As a Canadian I fucking hate you and hope you have a very bad day.

>>132108341
a fucking leaf

>>132109367
Unironically kys you failed American

>>132104141
>Because it isn't legal, there is no way I can get my hands on some guns.
>I don't have guns.

You fucking tool.

>>132112002
>Must suck to live in such a hostile country.
Id rather live in a state like vermont or alaska then what ever poor euro country you come from.

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>>132124611
>where as most Americans own guns because it's fun.
EUROPE CONFIRMED FOR THIRD WORLD SHIT HOLE.
Hows all the ackmed dick and child raping going europe?
Feel safe with the daily bombings?

>>132104141
>>132104141
fuck off with this bait fucking kike

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AKs are better than ARs.

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>>132104141
Get a free float handguard

>>132127869

AKs are

>Less Accurate
>heavier
>Now more expensive
>less modular

they are neat tho

>>132104489
You are an idiot. Aside from the barrel and pins everything on that is milled or injection molded in molds that were milled. Dont talk out your element you faggot.

>freedom dispenser
Only freedom from life, anon

>>132104141
IN my state it is illegal to own a semi automatic rifle

>no rail mounts
>ironsights
>20 round magazone
>probably shoots 9mm

Pleb-tier rifle you fucking kike

>>132127100
Sweden is pretty wealthy thanks to IKEA and a few other companies, and a fairly unregulated economy (less regulated than ours in fact).

However, always better to own a gun in case you're in an emergency including a breakdown of law and order. YOU are always your last line of defense.

>>132106013
Dude, stop.
You know shit about guns. IF you own a gun I would classify you as a FUDD. Please just fuck off out of this thread. Real Americans need to 'merica.

>>132106681
You did not shoot an AR in the Marines. You shot an M4, A2 or A1. Get the fuck out of here. you fucking LOP

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>>132104141
>

>>132113795

Did you not see the crowd of 14 year old boys how could you be so heartless

>>132118049
>a magazine that can't fit more than the state allowed number
You're doing it wrong

>>132130047

Put your mags and ammo on the table as well

>>132106681
See you in the Metro Bourbon

>>132105252
>European rivers

>>132104372
>illegal

just for you, the common pleb, i've been to buchingham (or however you spell it) palace, a lot of armed guards, with full autos.

Burger education : GUNZ GUNZ GUNZ MUH FREEDOM MUH 2ND AMENDMENT

>>132131064

Better than having our women raped by refugees while the government takes 90% of our earnings in taxes to give to them

>>132105252

Not a single woman or child among them. And the Europeans welcome their invaders with open arms.

>>132130909

>buchingham

American education

>>132104141
Except it's been statistically proven to actually put you in MORE danger when you point it ay an invader.

>>132131213
oh your system of government taking 60-70% (20%-30% of which is hidden from you) of your income and giving it to Juan and Juanita and their 20 babies, is sooo much better.

>>132131556
>brit
>ancap flag

top kek, watch out, you might get arrested for that.

>>132104141
>Be American

>Get shot

>Be proud of this fact

I envy you burger. I have a ranch with a coyote and pest problem. I can't buy any tools like those, the most I can buy is some handguns and a shotgun or a rifle but not a semi auto and the process is long ass shit. don't let the government take your rights burgers.

>>132104141
I don't suffer from paranoia and conservatism.

>>132106858
This. My favorite one all time still has to be the whole "I graduated top of my class in the navy seals and have 100 confirmed kills." Anyone know the one I'm talking about?

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>>132132343
Same issue but from little birds here only thing I can get without paper work is some pellet gun. Yanks got right idea, would like to drink beers with friends shooting shit from the back of pick up truck and feel the wind in my hair.

>>132128734
This

>>132108413
Mick here working in America but I hate that Gards are such a joke. I can literally see the station from my house and somebody on my road got robbed last summer. They couldn't defend themselves and the police couldn't do much more. There was a farmer out in Mayo or somwehere a few years back who got in trouble for shooting a thief. Our system is shit

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>>132104982
>Living in a civilized society where our families aren't being invaded?

LOL. Tell us where you are so we can have a laugh.

cheap AR's are nice to learn on and are fun to take to the range a couple times a month, but i wouldn't trust it for any serious work. my first AR was an m&p sport. learned how to take the thing apart, the controls and fundamentals of AR's and all that crap and it shot pretty decently. a few years later i bought a BCM and holy shit what a difference in quality.

that said a sub $600 AR will still do 95% of what a nice one will. tho i wouldnt want to take that $350 gun into iraq or afghanistan.

>>132119310
I remember seeing articles from MSM crying over availability of 3D Printers. As if cheap CNC mills weren't already a thing.