It is perfectly legal to create a nation in internatonal waters

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https://www.seasteading.org/

Maybe someday.

I'd be down for that, it sounds interesting and adventurous yet unlikely

>>131973412
we could have one boat full of pc hardware eun by ancaps for bitcoin farming to fund our nation, and another boat to get supplies ashore and do trade. And one of those bigass cargo tankers. hell yeah.

>>131975129
run*

>>131975129
Excellent idea. We can also have boats for collecting fish and sorts, as well as boats used to build more boats, expanding our fleet.

>>131975555
what do we do when our boat landmass takes the entire ocean? Boat skyscrapers? Boatscrapers, skyboats?

Literally Military sans Frontieres. Would be down to make it happen with you losers

You idiots don't understand that a storm could destroy all of the ships

>>131977027
Sky boats

>>131973412
>what is bioshock

>>131977027
Luftwaffe Himmel Boote

>>131977194
Just sail around the storm, ya dingus

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>>131973412
where would you get fresh water? trade fish?

>>131977194
Move our country out of the way of the storm.

> KEEP
> CALM
and
> FLOAT
> ON

>>131977194
correct me if i'm wrong but surely ships are built to withstand storms or how the fuck else do they travel the seas for months on end?!?!?!

>>131977508
china

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>>131977508
Desalination of the ocean around us. Pic related.

>>131977566
So what you're saying is, we're going to need a bigger boat.

How much are used air craft carriers?
Probably could get a good deal on one with a ramp.

>>131977566
sacrifices to zeus and poseidon

Whatever happened to Tuvalu invasion plans

>>131977730
be build one

>>131977566
Being out in the open =/= waves smashing vessels into rock

>>131973412
Why not a nation *under* the water?

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>>131973412
With a ship full of /biz/'s most gifted autists pumping and dumping the latest shitcoins and launching fraudulent ICOs weekly this floating nation could grow to become a world power.

>>131977730
Food and water as I explained will be acquired through fishing and desalination. Weather is fine as long as the ships are made to withstand a storm which is pretty much the norm of modern shipbuilding minus hurricanes.

Nauta ego non sum; ego sum agricola.

(english: I am not a sailor, I am a farmer.)

>>131977508
salt water=steam=fresh

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>>131973412
We can start by considering this map

>>131977869
>>131978202
Because that would be a hell of a lot more expensive and dangerous considering how deep the ocean would be. Also we would be able to control larger amounts of water if we work it as an armada, similar to how the Mongols were able to take so much land.

>>131973412
>get attacked by dindunuffin pirates
>kill them and be declared as terrorists by (((UN)))
>america bombs the shit out of your boat
ebin

>>131978202
You think we can afford that shit? right now were talking about stringing together motorboats and sailboats to make an island. were poorfags.

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>>131973412
If you get a big enough boat, you can do aquaponics on it in order to make grain and other plants...

perhaps even barley and hops.

Can't be a country without a beer and an airport.... so we'll need amphibious aircraft.

>>131978064
Don't have to use ego. The verbs imply first person singular. "Non sum nauta sed agricola." Would make more sense.

>>131978408
who said we would go near nigger continent

>>131978367
Armada has risks too, drift into territorial waters and the fleet could be seized or fired upon, also storms, pirates, scurvy, etc.

>>131978439
If we all chip in some money, plus we get investors, hell yes we can afford something like this, the better question is how can we afford not to?

this is what we do;

we get one of those bigass cargo ships with enough deckspace to fit michelle obamas fatass on, we hire general atomics and make it nuclear powered, get /k/ to donate some naval guns, and we can live like that one movie waterworld

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>>131973412
Remember the other failed /pol/onies? It's not going to happen.

>>131978597
Which is why we would have to either use gps, or be able to navigate without them. The only thing that would ever come close to territorial waters would be trade ships.

>>131975129
>Either boat gets fucked
>Letting ancap run the economy but not the government
Yeah that's just gonna go over... So. So well
At least you won't have ancap pedos since you're all men and not gay circle jerking in international water

How are you going to get funding? You'll need at least 100k for a decent sized barge. Search the archives for "North Saron." Some fag wanted to scam /pol/ by pretending to start a country with the money needed to by equipment. It's not going to happen.

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>>131978504
Thanks anon.

Q: whatabout ego in "rex sum ego", I am a king?
pic related.

>>131979063
We will obviously have to start small with smaller boats that you find in civilian docks, but from there we can start scaling up, getting more boats, bigger ships, and eventually building our own. This will take time unless we get sponsored by some company, but is completely feasibe with effort.

>>131978847
We don't need a ton of women for this. Once the nation kicks off strong enough we can start getting immigrants and rely on them to keep from inbreeding.

>>131977684
They finished the plans and as expected there was no invasion

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>>131979384
How are you going to get the money for the boats? And what happens when you get embargoed to hell and back by (((them))) for being literal nazis? Food is scarce in the ocean, and you cannot live only off of fish. I have been in numerous /pol/ony threads, and they all fail. Focus on something more practical, like getting ready for a SHTF scenario.

>>131978597
>scurvy

Theoretically, one could grow citrus trees on board... but it would have to be a rather large boat.

>>131977869
if /pol/ has anything to do with it, their sea faring nation will quickly be underwater

>>131979692
We can't just sit around hoping some SHTF event will come along reset (((their))) agenda and give us the chance to set things rights, we need to do some thing proactive.

>>131979774
just buy orange concentrate by the barrel

>>131979384
>Immigrants
When you get out there see if you can fish up my sides

>>131978832
That could avoid most issues.
>>131979774
Difficult to do though, plus how long it takes for most citrus trees to mature.
>>131979838
Kek

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>>131979858
If you want to be proactive, then instead of talking about it on /pol/, you should make a discord or some other form or un-anonymous communication with organization.

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>>131973412
>Develop toothache
What do?

>>131980033
Maybe I'll do that, or maybe I'll just build my own boat, with blackjack and hookers.

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Yessss!! I can't wait for a mobile Kekistani waterborne alliance, we can show up at every rally globally and totally BTFO leftys, show them who the real racists are lol I'm gonna call my ship the SS Pepe!

>>131979692
Working is a thing. Also this could be easily done if enough of us get behind this and I'm certain there are richfags somewhere who would want to take part. And we don't have to show our hand to (((them.))) We can just be abother democracy to (((their))) eyes. And on food, plenty of others have brought up how with big enough decks we can produce agriculture as well.

>>131980059
have you seen castaway?

>>131979774
you could just designate huge boats to be swimming farms, maybe one big container ship to be a stockpile to store excess, all set.

Fresh water wouldn't be that big of a deal considering that you can easily run solar stills or just boil salt water down to have fresh water in form of steam. Though fuel may be a big issue, we'd also need to have an Oil-rig then or run all ships with nuclear power, since I reckon that wind would be too unreliable or just not useable for big ships, same with solar power.

>>131979984
Europeans and other whites count as immigrants leaf. But your dog will have to stay home.

>>131980233
>Work
OP confirmed normie

Watch waterworld starring Kevin Costner. We build atolls fags

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Wasting time on boats when their is a whole continent waiting to become a nation.

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>>131980233
>>131979384
Do any of you have any fucking idea how expensive boats are? I discussed this in the North Saron discord back when that was a thing, and simple fucking used speedboats can be up to $50k. Entire barges are at lease 10x as much.

>>131980412
i don't see any shops

>>131980371
I'll bring my femboy waifu
I'm not sharing tho

>>131973412
>giant wave comes and wipes out your whole town
sounds fun to me.

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>>131973412
Sound more like Quarians than Mongols

>>131980458
LIKE MY NORD ANCESTORS WE SHALL CARVE BOATS OUT OF OAK TREES AND PLUNDER ENGLANDISTAN

>>131973412
90% of fisheries are depleted, fishing companies require huge amounts of land infrastructure to operate

>>131980481
Is that a counter point?

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>>131973412
you want to make a fucking Raft?! I suppose it could work if done right and not use to flood the west with refus

>>131980569
Well, until interstaller space ships are a thing, we need to do with the next best thing in order to get a feel for the whole "living in space" thing

>>131973412
You would need to claim an island and set up a strong military to get anywhere. You are an idiot if you honesty expect any country to respect the whole "International waters" thing if you guys actually get any notoriety on an international level.

>>131980363
>you could just designate huge boats to be swimming farms

Ya.

>maybe one big container ship to be a stockpile to store excess, all set.

Too many eggs, too few baskets.

Redundancy is important for survival.

>>131980363
forgot to add

>same with solar power.

Solar power still works at sea, it would just take a LONG time to "Charge", and you wouldn't be able to power the ships at full speed for long... so, storms.

Anyone see the abyss? It's calmer underwater. Giant submarine rigs. Or atolls like waterworld. A atoll shits on stringing together ships. Oil tanker good too

>>131980846
The trick is making powerful allies early on. We become friends with some big countries, nobody is gonna fuck with us unless they want ww3, especially if we get a country like russia or china.

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what if some isis fuck comes and blows shit up

>>131981445
>make government literally like pol
that means no immigrants i assume

>>131981445
Umm, shoot them in the face? I doubt /pol/ nation would be a gun free zone.

>>131980219
Take my bait you fucking cunts

>>131981669
No

How are you going to get water?

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>>131981176
>It's calmer underwater.

>>131973412
>tfw i am a highly experienced diesel and mechanical engineer with experience in steel construction, fabrication and farming + seafaring and navigation
>This would be my ultimate dream but it won't ever come true
Feels bad man

>>131981808
Oh come on.. there hasn't been a giant underwater monster attack in.... years.

>>131981585
Or we make it a gun free zone so isis cant use their guns.

>>131981787
See
>>131977658

>>131981184
Russia would actually be a good bet since everyone is constantly shitting on them. Plus we might score access to some of their vast weapon surplus
>Random tiny boats with old T-34, T-55 turrets on them
Kek

>>131981978
Well fuck man, if you're an expert on this shit then we'll make you chief engineer. Your skills will be very useful for this. Let's start drawing up plans and make dreams come true.

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poor fags
watch this guy's floating island, made with old netting, rubbish and hold together by roots of the vegetation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnLhWpy_nqI
Some could purchase old container vessels for a little as 1 dollar, these get demolished for steel recycling.

>>131973412

You don't need to operate in international waters, you just need to establish a religious cult.

Organize under a leader than you can trust with your money. Donate all your money then have it returned to you after paying rent and expenses. If he ever fails to deliver you just cut and run.

You can tax exempt everything while slurping down government services.

>>131977027

tunnels.

>>131982315
Food is not so hard. We just need a single trawler to feed the fleet. Potatoes can be grown en mass inside of barrels (i do that at home). Water can be boiled by use of any of the ships engine exhaust's via a radiator system.
>Maybe some alex jones water filters for taste

>>131982067
But then what will we shoot at fish and pirates with?

>>131978392
The flaw in these images is that built on the seabed is not a good place. It needs to be basically a giant underwater "bag" like a jellyfish floating around

found another floating island, while seraching for the vid in my prev post:
http://www.thisiscolossal.com/2016/08/freedom-cove-island-house/

The key with these ideas, is to just do it!

>>131978484
All you have to do is float a bunch of 2x4's with foam underneath to grow plants on ocean

>>131979692
everyone brings their own boat and ties them together duh! cant be embargoed. Anyone can just boat over to any country to buy shit. millions of boats literally.

>>131980458
Cheaper than a house yo. Buy it on credit, float it into international waters and never come back. Free boats yo. Also short boat financing stocks before doing that.

>>131980534
Happens on land too. Really makes you think.

The millionth thread of this shit and yet we still haven't found a single person willing to take material steps towards doing it.

>>131982995
Most smaller boats (single engine) are not made to go further than 2-3 sea miles from coast. Its a dangerous prospect.

>>131973412
I want to build an artificial island out of 55 gallon polypropylene barrels

>>131983058
Shit takes time, do you have any idea how expensive this is? Or how difficult the logistics are?

>>131982732
love and diversity

>>131981184
NK will sell nukes to floating city #1. Unstoppable.

>>131983058
You wanna change that? Or do you just wanna complain how it apparently won't happen. We gotta take shit into our own hands. Since people are actually on board with this idea I'm gonna go make a discord for this and we can put this into action. Good luck waiting for the race war while we are off conquering 70% of the world.

>>131973412
read UNCLOS you canadian moron

>>131983341
>do you have any idea how expensive this is? Or how difficult the logistics are?
Completely beyond the reach of anyone on /pol/. People have been making these threads for years and nothing ever happens. It's fun roleplaying but nothing else.

>>131973412

You forgot this bit.

>lose everything when a freak storm/hurricane sinks everything.

It's what happened to Ernst Hemingway's brother's "nation".

>get fucked up by pirates
or get too big and powerful and USA fucks you up
not happening.
youd either be too small and get fucking reemed by pirates and shit or youd be to powerful and be wiped out by a proper navy

>>131977508
another moron

>>131983456
I know there have to be some richfags somewhere around here that would love a nation of autism with few laws, Imagine the tax haven potential alone.

>>131973412
>create a nation in internatonal waters

I'll bet (you) are so retarded that (you) can't even imagine a single flaw with that retardation.

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>tfw you gonna get Waco'ed by US NAVY destroyers

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>>131977508
maybe i can help

>>131973412
As long as it's not the Pacific
>What is Fukashima?

>>131982817
>All you have to do is float a bunch of 2x4's with foam underneath to grow plants on ocean

you are going to have to worry about storms....

Unless we are talking a HUGE boat, you are going to need to constantly navigate around storms and hurricanes... and that means lots of fuel, and weather services (dopplar radar, etc)

Also, the ocean is salty, some plants don't like that.

>>131977161
Why hasn't a millionaire done it yet? No taxes.

>>131983440
UNCLOS only applies to those who sign it
>>131983700
You wanna bring what you think will go wrong to the table? Cuz we have either covered everything or will cover whatever remains.

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>>131977658
Protip: you can use the same concept to grow shit underwater.

>>131983720
>US Navy attacks civilian boats in international waters for no reason
>not a PR disaster
They would have no reason, no one gives a shit when you bomb your own citizens (as long as the poison gas meme isn't activated), but when you start fucking with things that aren't yours it can be an issue.

>>131982328
TRASHISTAN WHEN??

Just made the discord:
discord gg/SMhjkpu
Let's make this happen boys. The Armada will come to fruition.

penus but

>cyberpunk dystopian floating ancap city
Yes.

>>131983187
it's not like they stop floating. and this is a group, not a single boat.

>>131983928
Harvest oil spills.

>>131984942
A group of boats bashing against each other in waves is a bad idea. You're better of finding a semi shallow spot and building an underwater biodome if we're talking fantasy here.

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I just bought one...no idea how to drive it.

>>131985515
The same as I have.... we'll put it behind mine and ill drive.

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>>131985065
>Harvest oil spills.

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>>131985757
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_way_(shipping)

>>131985757
Let's do it.
>>131987040
I remember that from flight school