So whats the total number gonna be /pol/? Heard it got wacky

>>131677022
at least 400

Bad luck Mohammad just wanted to have some roasted goat got roasted instead.

>>131677230
Why wont they just give the total now? I doubt they are still pulling bodies out.

>>131678266
Casue they don't want people rioting they want them to wait until the news has moved onto something else.

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>>131677022
I'm too fucking erect.

>>131677022
>building is on fire
>go to top of building

>>131677022
word is the engineer they brought in to tell them tower is safe has stalled and that was fired.

This is the biggest call an engineer can make and in my experience the right call is to condemn.

They are looking for an engineer to deem the building safe so that when it does collapse the story will be his negligence .

This building will collapse before Christmas mostly likely a tilt over Westward into Lancaster Green. They will be using this time to plan the demolition. Prevailing uk winds are South Westerly so the will pull it to coincide with stormy weather.


adn the remains of the 800 to 900 ppl in there will be lost.

>>131679635
No escape, and the choice is jump out of a window or try and escape the flames for a few more minutes in the hope some miracle would happen. What would you do?

>>131677022
79 or 80 sounds reasonable considering that it wasn't THAT big of a building. Only around 120 residential units, not all of which were occupied.

But the government probably won't release an "official" total until next year, when all of this is long-forgotten.

>>131680289
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15JCb6P60Vw or die trying

>>131680697
It's over that consider the building was illegal sublet to people. You imagine those 120 residents, about 60 of the minimum have around 4-8 people living illegally living there. Yeah.. Count is up high, they are trying to bury this because they know a chimp out is imminent.

>>131677022
THIS BUILDING IS LIT SENPAI

>>131680697
Fire started in the middle of the night and pretty much everyone from the 4 floor up couldn't get out. I will say its a fucking reminder how much fire can fuck shit up.

>>131677022

You would think one of them would make a rope ladder out of sheets, but then again, dumb niggers couldnt make a wheel without whitey.

>>131681527
Some did but they didnt have the strength and just ended up falling as i said it was some wacky shit.

>>131680119
>800-900 people

Bullshit

>>131677022
What is the libertarian counter argument to the assertion that this disaster occurred due to a lack of fire safety regulations? Surely in a libertarian or ancap society, tragedies like this would be commonplace due to the lack of government oversight in planning and construction. I'm far from a statist but if there was ever an argument for the need for government regulation, this is it.

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>>131681636

Just add fire hose.

>>131680868
With dragonforce all things are possible

>>131681527
One person did but the fire spread outside of the building and they were too high up to reach the ground without falling and breaking bones or something.

>>131681895
Not that high but certainly the 100 number.

>>131682005
There would be demand for an independent regulatory body that is paid for by the residents. Of course nothing will stop said independent body from scamming the people. Which opens up the door for another regulatory body/safety body.

And so on. Good thing most people aren't LOLbertarians.

>>131677022
Around 120 I think. I base this off of nothing.

>>131678266
Because a lot of the bodies are dust.
The heat near the top of the building would have been far more than any crematorium.

They're just telling us the amount of bodies they've found, they won't find any more

>>131682005
Doesn't matter, thankfully lolbertarians aren't common outside of North America

>>131677022
Literally told people to stay in their flats instead of trying to evacuate. Shit's a god damn travesty.

>>131681527
The side of the building was on fire senpai

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>>131682771
You think they could pull remains off the melted sofas/burnt wood?

>>131682992
Standard advice that works, they didn't realise the cladding would cause the fire to spread so quickly. They didn't really do anything wrong, commie blocks are designed to contain fires to one room/floor, there's been fires in tower blocks before and they haven't ended like this. There's talk of manslaughter charges being brought in.

Also one of the victims looks like the guy in the middle.

I said this b4 and I'll say it again. The skull is the last thing that burns to dust. So far they're at +200 skulls. They're not releasing the true figures to avoid social unrest. To avoid riots.

>>131681527
>just make a 400 foot sheet rope
this fucking guy

>>131677022
good thing those dumb niggers turned off the smoke alarms so they could barbeque indoors

or are we still pretending this is THE WHITE MAN and his FUCKING REFRIGERATORS fault?

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>>131683294
They all look very similar.

>>131683296
Why contain it? Let it spill over into the schools and churches, let the bodies pile up in the streets.

In the end they'll be begging the government to save them

>>131682051
is this image part of a series

>>131679635
>Bong Education

>>131683724
yes

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>>131683647

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>>131682074
>gee that's a long fall and I might get hurt
>guess I'll burn to death

>>131683823
>Thinking the fire could be put out and controlled
>Way down is blocked by fire
>Go up to get air
>Crisp up instead
That's not bong education, that's enrichment education.

>>131681527
how many sheets do you have in your house? 10 stories up and you are fucked.

>>131683941
Shitty fucking choice.

>>131683941
One person did use sheets and climbed down and then fell and survived..

Also how many of the people in those flats do you think had enough sheets to get down 20 stories you fucking retard.

God damn America...

>>131683296
>the skull is the last thing that burns to dust

What?

That's not how this works, that's not how any of this works

Am I the only one happy that London has 200 less mudslime?

>>131684029
Three deep breaths of fire smoke and you're unconscious. Not to mention when the cladding burned it let off Hydrogen Cyanide gas.

>>131683941
One of those takes proactive action to accomplish.

>>131683979
They were actually informed by the fire brigade to travel to the top.
This is because they didn't know the whole outside of the building was flammable

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>>131682051
>>131683724
>>131683900

okay found the series

>>131677022
Why would u go up?

>>131683941
>>131681527
>how to tell when someone's entire scope of reality is based on cartoons and movies

Since you probably aren't pretending to be this retarded, those people would have to collect dozens of sheets, tie them into ropes, tie that around something stable then be able to climb down 12+ stories (with their kids and/or elderly as most of those units weren't single occupancy) while almost the entire exterior facade is on fire and smokey/windy and they would have to pull all this off before the smoke overwhelmed them inside their apartment unit. Unlike your Chinese cartoons and fantasy video games that's a little harder to accomplish in real life.

>>131684136
My associate in forensics said this not me. It's how they make the count in a major burn. They count skulls. The skull is the last to burn cos it's a solid bone surrounding a wet mass - namely the brain and so far they're up to over 200 skulls. They had far more in each flat than what they were allowed.

>>131684355
Yah but you still have the excruciating pain of inhaling hot gas literally burning you from the inside out. Compared to a pretty quick splat.

>>131683979
>That's not bong education, that's enrichment education.
What's the difference?

>>131684420
Why do we have no fire rescue helicopters? The police can put out helicopters constantly to find someone saying something hurtful on twitter, with said helicopters buzzing around constantly in the middle of the night but not one rescue copter for an incident like this?

Sort it out rescue services, you get enough money. Invent teleportation if all else fails.

>>131684647
Yeah it's a shitty situation whichever way you look at it, but from some of the floors it's not a "quick splat".

>>131684684
There are no Bongs in London anymore, it fell. It has fallen.

6 gorillion

>>131680927
and whats funnier is that the official tenants are living outside london somewhere pretending to have died.

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>>131678266
They have to confirm each and every case. When your tenant only has family in Syria or Somalia it gets hard to verify if they're dead or not since their remains might be impossible to see. Firefighters at the scene reckon around 150 at least with 50 children but this is a conservative figure -it is often the case that they cram into these flats illegally numerous family members. There were some photos leaked on liveleak where one of the tenants had fused with his plastic bath.

>>131684791
>Rescue helicopters
Anything that could carry a significant amount of people would have to be able to land on the roof

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>>131685231
>There were some photos leaked on liveleak where one of the tenants had fused with his plastic bath.

>>131684791
They don't get enough money, they barely get enough money to buy uniforms.

>>131685381
Us rope ladders like at the end of Batman where Joker gets on said rope ladder and then falls.

Do that, not hard! Or invent teleportation as I said. Chop chop science, you've had enough money! Time to start showing results.

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Why didn't they use one of those fire planes they use for wildfire?
>Sure some might die of the blast but thats just part and parcel

>>131685547
>just part and parcel
Not with Sadiq, sadly most of his friends perished.

>>131685646
no tears from sadiq, to him its all part and parcel.

>>131677022

Was walking around the area last week, a lot of posters up saying the local estimate is 150-200 at least, there's also a google document spreadsheet online put up by one of the activist groups trying to estimate exactly how many people are still unaccounted for that's interesting, if you look on the r/london subreddit you'll find it (dont crucify me I just look on there for transport updates, free food deals etc in London, its pretty handy for it)

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*wacky at the top*
LMJEJEJEJO
"...Who's on first..."

>>131685845
I can't stand that cunt, he's such a fucking wank stain and his wife looks exactly like him. He's that narcissistic that he'd marry his doppleganger.

But you love me don't you? Me and you? We'll be together forever. We'll fight all this and be special and love.

>>131685965
And you shall love me too, oh yes you will my special friend.

>>131681307
>Tfw you didn't buy stocks in fire safety companies

Fuck I should have known this would happen.

>>131677022
6 gorillion ofc

(there will be no total number)

>>131685231
Nasty.

>>131684791
Ever tried to fly helicopter above fucking big torch?

>>131681527
>Just make a rope out of bedsheets hundreds of feet long and climb down a flaming building lmao like just climb out nigga :DDDDDDD

>>131684791
The heat drafts would mean that no choppers could even get close to the building they where fucked also the door to the roof was locked i think.

>>131681527
they could have used their burkas, but after they escaped they would have been stoned to death.

>>131682005
In a libertarian society, nobody would be able to pool enough resources to build a tower so this wouldn't have happened

>>131686937
Who cares , import third world humans, get third world problems.

I just got here someone tell me what's going on

>>131677022
Did this building have no fire escapes built in?

>>131687298
Bunch of goatfuckers burned up real good and there was no chance for any type of escape. Aperantly it's like a horror show in the building.

>>131687307
no, there was one staircase

>>131687136
I don't care, I don't live in London and I have no control over what the government does at all.

>>131682005
It's the personal responsibility of the residents to ensure the building is safe enough for them to risk living there. If you don't like the buildings fire safety measures, don't live there.

>>131680289
>jump from window and hope for best
>burn

yeah ill 9/11 the shit out of that jump

>>131687307
Nope no sprinklers or alarms either half of them probably died in their sleep before they knew what was even happening

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>>131681527
>haha dumb niggers can't even make a makeshift 400ft rope and climb out even though the exterior was on fire and they would have burned anyway
idiot

>>131688147
>It's the personal responsibility of the residents
Are you seriously thinking that residents (niggers and shitskins in this case, just to make things worse) are able to grasp 27-story building fire safety and building material fire safety.
Anon, please.

>>131688778
If they are unable to grasp the concept of fire safety they shouldn't be allowed to vote for representatives that set fire safety rules because they are unable to make an informed decision on which representative would be capable of putting in good fire safety regulations. In the situation you describe the liberation society is superior because they only endanger themselves, rather than endangering everyone by making uninformed votes for people who set up poor safety regulations.

In a liberation society their deaths would be the fault of their own personal responsibility rather than the fault of societies responsibilities for them.

>>131684557
ok so they just chose to burn alive instead of even trying

>>131689859
I dont think you understand how hot that fire was at that temperture all you can rationally think about is how to get away from that amount of heat when its all said and done they will probably find a mass of body's in some corner of a room with scratch marks on the walls as every cell in their bodies screamed at them to try and escape. Not a fun way to go desu.

>>131689343
In liberation society they were all shot at the border because they were invaders.

>>131689859
Some tried all failed some bitch threw her kid 10 stories. That's fucking hardcore.

>grab a chair
>jump out the window
>as soon as the chair's about to hit the ground, jump from the chair
>chair takes the fall
>land safely
Why did no one do this?

>>131691864
They didn't have any chairs otherwise they'd have done this

>Luxembourgish education

>>131691864
>sit in chair
>use massive arm strength to lift chair
>fly away to safety
don't skip arm day, it may save your life

>>131677022
Not enough live like a roach die like a roach.

>>131685231
>There were some photos leaked on liveleak where one of the tenants had fused with his plastic bath.

link?

>>131680289
Uh, I'd get a blanket, splash it with water, cover myself with it and run out?

But you know, I'm white.

>>131680119
>This is the biggest call an engineer can make and in my experience the right call is to condemn.

Hear this story:
>In Italy we had geologists called to express themselves on the safety of buildings in case of earthquake.
>Geologists and architects lied to cover up the shitty building industry.
>Later they were tried
>A bunch of leftists all over the world started chimping out: "much duh in Italian they jail scientists for not being able to predict earthquakes"

>>131691864
This has been dis proven as a viable technique. But I used to think it for the longest time too.

>>131680289
Flames over jump.
Unless I had a fucking 60 metres climbing rope

>>131683294
>pic
They look better than those who destroyed my country.
I'll give them a pass

t. Garibaldi

>>131691864
You would still be moving at freefall speed minus the slight change in velocity aka splattered

>>131692904
Water conducts heat faster than you'd think. The temperature would turn the water to scalding hot in moments and you wouldn't be able to get the blanket off.

>>131680119
>800 to 900 ppl

I heard it was 2000.

>>131677022

6 gazillion

>>131693786
>missing the point this hard

>>131693786
Being this retarded.

>>131684557
I have like 3 sheet a bed, those are like 2-3 bedrooms, so that's also 10 sheet there, they can get another 10 from a neighbor, that's enough.

>>131677022

I would have paid money to see someone try to parachute down from the top floor

>>131693792
I've set myself on fire after covering myself with water and I was absolutely fine afterwards.

The fire burned off the water and my skin was fine after, although all the hair on my arms fell off which was funny.

>>131696068
I've thought about carrying a parachute to work or if I lived in a flat since 9/11, it seems like a good idea to me.

>>131696068
Where are all the videos I'm sure people recorded some crazy shit.

>>131677022
Can someone give me a rundown on what the guy who started the fire actually did after it had started? Shortly after it happened I read on here that be basically did nothing to put it out, threw some of his belongings in a sack and left after telling one of his neighbors that there was a fire

>>131696276
problem solved. all tower blocks should supply parachutes on the roof.

>>131696475
Electrical fires can start quick and get out of control quick he might not have even noticed it till half his room was in flames and just bolted. Those buildings are also supposed to be designed in a way to stop the fire from spreading instead it caught onto the cladding and the rest is history.