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I was watching this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ztdofPc8Rw

Where an EXPERT on Holocaust denial gives a presentation about why deniers are wrong and she gives literally no facts or refutes anything. All she does is say deniers are liars and Nazis.

Can somebody tell me why deniers are wrong? Even slightly? What is the most convincing evidence that the Holocaust did happen?
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>>131661769
>she
>expert
>TEDx

really?
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>>131662056
They made a fucking movie about this dumb bitch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH7ktvUWaYo
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Deniers are wrong because the holocaust happened. Countless confessions were made by both Nazis and holocaust victims at the Nuremberg trials. The holocaust is well documented faggots on here just deny it to be edgy.
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>>131661769
The one argument of deniers which I looked into more closely convinced me personally that the deniers are lying.
It was the oven bottle-neck argument. They wrongly equated the numbers of a modern crematorium, which is bound by ceremonial standards and government regulations to those used in concentration camps. On top of that there are papers detailing the capacities of the ovens used in concentration camps by the manufacturers.
The deniers deliberately lied about that. It is a good lie, because equating the ovens of a modern crematorium with those of a concentration camp sounds so plausible at first.

P.S: the holocause happened. I'm not saying that they did deserve it, because Maas is watching everyone, but...
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>>131662485
>Countless confessions were made by both Nazis
Yea, this is one thing I've yet to hear deniers explain.

>faggots on here just deny it to be edgy.
I'm sure that's true but there are also a lot of reasons to believe the holcaust didn't happen, especially not to the point where six million jews died and were cremated.
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>>131662573
>It is a good lie, because equating the ovens of a modern crematorium with those of a concentration camp sounds so plausible at first.
I was wondering about that. What about the time frame? It takes 2 hours to cremate a body in a modern crematorium and apparently they could only cremate a few at a time. The argument is that it would have taken much longer to cremate the amount of people they allegedly gassed.
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>>131662485
yeah, Don't get me wrong, the holocaust has been exploited and even at times exxagerated greatly for personal gain by many people, but it happened, alot more than just jews wre killed in it too.
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>>131663754
I think everyone agrees that it happened in some capacity. The argument is that it wasn't as big or as brutal as historians claim. The numbers are hugely exaggerated.
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>>131663166
This is the letter the manufacturer sent to the SS.
The capacity of the 3 small ovens they give is 250 per day, the 5 big ones 900. The letter also mentions that this capacity is not enough for camp and that they need more.
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>>131663166
You realize they didn't just cremate Jews but put them in mass graves among other ways of disposing of the bodies including burning the bodies in puts they dug..
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>>131664104
How do deniers argue against this? What else would they need so many ovens for?

Of course I guess the documents could be fabricated after the fact. Any photographs of the ovens actually at the work sites?
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>>131662485
Don't be fooled there are plenty of true believers. Hitler posting stopped being wholly ironic years ago.
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>>131663754
>>131664021
There were no gas chambers.
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>>131664607
OMG FAGGOT

WHERE ARE THEY!?!?!?!

seriously where are the fucking graves?

I'll wait.
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>>131664607
Evidence of that?
I know people claim that but they also claim they dug up mass graves and burned them afterwards.
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>>131661769
If you're saying the Holocaust didnt happen what youre essentially saying is Hitler was too stupid to fix his own country.
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>>131662744
>admit to the crimes we are charging you with or your family will suffer

Hmmmm
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>say the numbers are overblown
>say that there werent even 6 million jews in all of europe at the time
>say the allies supply line bombing in the latter stages spread disease and famine through the camps
>say that the Jewish elite of the modern era benefit from unending victimhood

YOURE DENYING IT EVER HAPPENED YOU FUCKING NAZI
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>>131665077
there were no mass graves found.
>>131665180
go home libkike. he hoped it wasn't necessary, now we all know it was.
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>>131665180
Didnt they plan on expelling them somewhere remote?
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>>131664815
They say it is fabricated.
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>>131665183
Right, it's a crime to say the Holocaust didn't happen in Germany, so I guess that means they would be committing a crime if they didn't go along with the story.

But there have to be some who made it to America and came clean, right?
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>>131662744
>Yea, this is one thing I've yet to hear deniers explain.

Anyone ever explained Nazis actually gloating about it like Alois Brunner (who was safe from prosecution at that time) and sometimes indifferent like Ohlendorf, Hoess and Wisliceny? They must feel like embarassing relatives with a big mouth.
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>>131664104
Ovens to burn people wouldnt be very efficient or productive and it would have still left considerable evidence outside of a few personal recordings
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>>131665420
>he hoped it wasn't necessary
...they were fucking JEWS. Everyone at the time knew the Jews killed Germany during WW1.
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>>131661769

TEDx presenters pay for the right to make these. They are not approved or pass any kind of inspection.
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>>131665424
That's a good idea, instead of killing the cancer you should just put it somewhere else in the body.
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>>131662056
you know you've been BTFO when a POO can debunk your "argument"
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>>131665866
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The constant drumbeat of Holocaust denial is a product of ShariaBlue trying to paint /pol/ as anti-Semitic racists.

I'm Jewish. It did happen. I knew more than a few older family and neighbors who had the numbers burned into their arms.

But sure, if you think it didn't happen, scream it far and wide.

It happened.
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>>131661769
Only Boomers believe in the Jews lies.
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>>131665863
Remote as in madagascar. Somewhere where they cant have any influence
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>>131665521
This is a fake
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>Nu/pol/ = Hallohoax happened but not quite.

The one day I come back and I see this thread exists, peace out fuckers see you in another month to check on your leftist kike brainwashing progress.
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>>131665924
Good goy
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>>131661769
The kykes faked the numbers and lied about shit. They include gays, gypsies, communist, etc. in the magic 6million number or however many they are saying it is these days. If it did happen, they deserved it anyway.
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>>131665683
"When did you learn about the gassing of Jews?" Honsik asked. Brunner's reply: "After the war, from the newspapers!"

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v10/v10p123_Weber.html
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The CODOH made a response to her talk, it's one hour long but present who she is, how she worked on her books, why it seems shady...etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLXvsct-Ck4
If you can't watch the video in your country, go to http://eachvideo.com/ and cc the URL of the video in the searchbar.
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>>131665990
>Jews
>having no influence

Into the ovens you go. You kill your problems, not ship them off only for the Allies to swoop in and take them all in.
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>>131662485

Confessions were coerced as fuck. Hell one of them said Auschwitz killed 2.5-3 million which we know is impossible from the evidence. As in number of bodies burned and buried. Remember the winners write history and WW@ was probably the biggest incidence of war propaganda we have ever seen.
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>>131665924
>"I'm Jewish"
lol?
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>americunts put japanese people in internment camps
aBsolutely breat :DDDD
>nazi germany puts people to work in concentration camps
nut gud DDDD:
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>>131661769
Tedx is the cancerous version of ted talks, only liberals and the brain dead do tedx talks. holocaust did kinda happen but not to the severity jews say. 11 mil jews getting wiped out is a sad lie.
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>>131665924
>trying to paint /pol/ as anti-Semitic racists.
have an uppoat XDDDD
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>>131662485
>The holocaust is well documented

The story constantly changes whenever some part of it was proven to be shit. In all honesty there were deportations then camps. The plan to exterminate the jews is bullshit. People in those camps died when the supply lines went to shit. Then starvation and disease were rampant.
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>>131665705
I've seen these pics already. I'm very familiar with the arguments why the holocaust didn't happen.

I'm looking for someone to argue why deniers are wrong, with evidence. Nobody ever does that. Nobody ever says "those pictures don't prove what you say it does because..." they just call deniers Nazis.
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>Watching Ted
Stop feeding the Jews your money
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>TEDx
The x means it's extreme?
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>>131666050
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>>131666100


DENIAL =/= SKEPTICISM
>DENIAL =/= SKEPTICISM
DENIAL =/= SKEPTICISM
>DENIAL =/= SKEPTICISM
DENIAL =/= SKEPTICISM
>DENIAL =/= SKEPTICISM
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>>131661769
This cunt is pure evil and I hope she drops dead soon.
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>>131665787
My ex-roomie used to boast about having given a TED talk and get laid as i used to play video games on headphones in the other room. Please tell me you're not joking.

>>131662129
looks really silly
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>>131661769
They cant prove it and never will. It never happened.
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>>131665924
>Having a prison number burned into your arm = holocaust

thanks for the input schlomo gomo
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>>131662485
>Countless confessions were made by Nazis
You mean like the one by Rudolf Hoess, who confessed to a camp that never existed after he was tortured? Impressive confessions you have there.
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>>131666391
>I'm looking for someone to argue why deniers are wrong

well you aren't going to find it here, faggot. kindly pic related if you want to read leftist fiction
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>>131666100
He was organising deportations.
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>>131662744
>>131662744
There were like three testimonies used to verify the Holocaust not "countless." Thousands of Nazis were outright hung no testimony required.
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>>131665896
Have anymore information about these doctored photos? The history of them, the process used, and especially proof that the originals were the ones on the right.
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>>131666410
Extremely fictional.
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>>131666742
>uses a reaction image of a Kike pawn
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>>131666547
ted and tedx are not the same

ted is more fussy as to who it hosts.

tedx doesn't have any standards imo
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>>131666177
The first great cyber war will be called WW@
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>>131666547

TED talk are invited and approved. TEDx is a side deal where TED sold its brand name to anyone who would pay for the appearance of respectability.

People never notice the x though. So in the end people just start to see TED talks as shitty.
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>>131666742
It's absurd that there aren't any arguments. Her argument is literally "deniers are lying and are almost always linked to Nazis"
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>>131662573
>a modern crematorium, which is bound by ceremonial standards and government regulations
to do what? reduce a body into non-evidence. name the EXACT regulation that slows this down
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Assuming that Hitler started gassing Jews since day 1, that makes for 3,153,600 minutes.

6,000,000 Jews killed during 3,153,600 minutes comes out to 1.9 Jews per minute. That means Hitler killed roughly 1 Jew every 30 seconds. (LOL)

In Auschwitz, the most famous and biggest concentration camp, there are 15 crematoriums. According to Auschwitz survivors, Jews would go into the chamber, gassed for 15-20 minutes, then put into the oven.

It takes 1 hour to cremate a body using modern furnaces which operate at much higher temperatures than the traditional ovens at the camp. However, lets say that the ovens were operating at a level that we see today, that means it would take 1 hour, 20 minutes to gas and burn 15 Jews assuming they were all burned simultaneously. (Disregarding the time it would take for the gas to empty the chamber for the bodies to be transported from the chamber to the oven.) The elevators used to transport bodies were very slow and could only take up 7 bodies at a time with their weight capacity. However, for our greatest ally, we're going to assume that bodies were teleported instantly from chamber to oven.

That means 15 Jews were gassed and burned every 1.2 hours. That comes out to exactly 300 Jews every 24 hours (Assuming the gassing and burning of Jews was happening every hour straight for 6 years on an uninterrupted basis) the total number of jews killed would be 657,000 for those 6 years. The official Jewish story is that 4,000,000 Jews were killed at Auschwitz alone.

How can any Jew, Israeli, or Shill ever even argue this story when just simple math is enough to destroy the whole argument? Can any Jews respond to this?
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>>131666423
BELIEVING LIES =/= SMART
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Close to 80 million people died in WW2 why is it so hard believe a few million were jews with mein kampf being written by hitler?
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>>131667350

This we would fucking know if 3 billion people worth of cremation dust/remains. That shit would be easy to find.
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>>131661769
>What is the most convincing evidence that the Holocaust did happen?
The camps which are visible from orbit?
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There was a plan for Jewish extermination, but gas chambers were not used and numbers are wrong.
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>>131661769
she is literally a jew, she attended the hebrew college of jerusalem lol
not exactly an objective source..
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>>131662485
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>>131667448

The camp stories are the part people think is bullshit. If you wanted to argue that 6 million jews died from WW2 when you add up everything could make a strong argument.

If you are saying that Germany purposly gathered 6 million jews and killed them in camps as some grand extermination plan you then have a problem.

The death camp bullshit is what people denied And Im not sure people outside the US know exactly how much of the bullshit is pushed in this country. I was actually listening to a German on youtube trying to back the six million number when I finally figured out that he wasnt talking about the camps and the closest he got to trying to prove death camps was the sheer amount of Zyclon B (which he had to learn was exactly a pest control chemical).
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>>131667370

....

what the fuck
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>>131661769
As a believer, this does annoy me. Argumentum ad populum is not an argument; it doesn't matter how many people believe it happened.
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>>131661769
(((Lipstadt)))

>Oy vey goy, don't question the shoah! It's the only objective truth in human history!
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>>131667491
You mean the ones behind the Iron Curtain.

All but 1-2 camps that the Allies could actually see were labor camps, renamed "concentration camps", even confessed by the Allies because people could actually see them.

EVERY camp behind the iron curtain was supposedly a death camp, that's where all of them were. Where the Allies couldn't investigate them. Yet they were certain 6,000,000 died 20 years before the iron curtain fell.
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>>131667370
You forget that there were three leap years inbetween. So your calculations are wrong. Also, because we know that you can't kill more than one person at the same time on any given place on earth and because the crematoriums of today are the same as those in the camps, we need to take earths rotation into consideration, which your copy pasta clearly doesn't do.
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>>131667491

Camps to hold people during wartime just like we did. You need to defend camps made for the purpose of methodically exterminating jews.
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>>131661769

nizkor.org
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>>131667679
Same book also claims that smoke was different colors so they could see when children were burning. There are so many funny stories in that book, yet it's cited as a CREDIBLE SOURCE.
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>>131664021
Hilter never ordered the mass killing of jews. No gas chamber had been build. 300k or 400k jews may have died by various reasons. Some realy executed by german troops (war criminals) but without orders from the high command. Germany killed less civilians than USA.
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Nobody believes this woman right? This just 15 minutes of laced ad hominem attack. "Revisionists under the surface like Hitler and are anti-Semitic. Therefore, all of their claims are false."
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>>131667370
over 1.1 million jews were killed in mass shootings, so you can subtract that.
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I unironically believed it until I saw the money machine it became, and jews wound up trying to out-ridiculous themselves in memoirs.

So I'm a fool for denying the masturbation machines?
I'm a fool for denying the kike-flinging coaster carts?
I'm a fool for denying the room with blades coming up from the floor to slice and dice kikes, then the floor opened up to drop the remains onto fucking mining carts so they could load up more?

Words cannot describe how fucking stupid you kike suckers are.
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>>131667370
Not to mention that the gas chambers were only up and running for 1.5 years from 1942-43 I believe
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>>131665766
Now (((they))) claim that it's 20 million
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oy vey the six quadrillion
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>>131666423
Oy vey! Believe our lies, goyim! Never dare to question them!
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>>131667679
They should recreate that as a ride at the holocaust museum.
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>>131668075
not a history book, and not cited as such by anyone.
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>>131667370
I've always wanted to see an infographic of just what 6 million dead jews would look like.

If they were a cube, what would its dimensions be?

If they were stacked end to end, how close to the moon would they get?

If they were all given airplane seats, how many Boeing 747s would be required?

If they were all given tickets to see the same showing of Transformers: The Last Knight, what % of theater seats in the entire world would be occupied?

You never see infographics like this because it would become apparent that this number of corpses is just completely illogical.
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>>131668046
Like the ones in Poland?
>>131668027
The Russians were part of the Allies as well, what is the point exactly? According to your own logic, the jews control both the SU and the western allies, so the output of lies should be the same.
Also expain Mauthausen. That one was discovered by Americans.
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>>131661769
>browsing 4chan
>someone posts image made in ms paint featuring grainy photographs and scanned documents
>image is covered in red underlines, arrows and circles
>"The holocaust didn't happen"
or
>it's a quote from some random Jew who literally no one has ever heard of talking about how they control the media or some shit
Anyone else just roll their eyes at this shit?
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>>131662485

>(((Nuremberg trials)))
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>>131669193
It's still fun to participate, don't be so snobbish.
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>>131661769
>this kills the stormcucks

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH
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>>131667942
They originally were told by the establishment 6 million and it has been revised but many did die ,there is no denying WW2 was the precursor to Israel gaining an independent state but there is also no evidence they were not slaughtered in the events leading up to it just like the rest of the major armies of the world at the time.

They were rounded up to be sent abroad at first (havarava agreement, Uganda state plan, Madagascar state plan) but there was a point in the war when hitler and his men decided to exterminate instead of relocate.
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>>131664104
Nowhere in this document does it say "900". It say 15 muffles burn 800 bodies and surprisingly 8 muffles burn also 800 bodies. Just a coincedent I guess...
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>>131667370
Why does every copypasta assume the bodies were being burned in a facility and not burned in an open pit? It sounds way easier to start a bonfire and just keep dumping the bodies on
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>>131662485
>b-but the nazis confessed!
>under duress
>in a kangaroo court
>to (potentially) avoid being hanged
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>>131669307
not being bound by evidence != no verified evidence presented
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>>131669847
because unless the bodies were burned to a crisp in a proper crematorium there would be the remains of 6 million people to be accounted for.
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>>131662744
>>131662485
>admit it happened or well cut ur dick off
there's a reason torture doesnt work
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>>131669847
>Why does every copypasta assume the bodies were being burned in a facility and not burned in an open pit? It sounds way easier to start a bonfire and just keep dumping the bodies on

Because it didn't happen. No recon photos exist of this happening, plus it's even less efficient than a controlled close space.
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>>131666423
People dont get this

I dont write off the holocaust entirely, but I doubt the gas chambers and number killed. And I never get a good answer on how many died from typhus and starvation
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>>131661769
>OY VEY REMEMBER THR SEVEN HUNDRED TRILLION YOU FUCKING GOYIM WHAT AN ABSOLUTELY HOLOCAUST!!!!!!!!!! MUH DEAD KIKES!!! WAWHHHAA
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>>131661769

if the holocaust happened why are there so many holocaust survivors? How SHIT was this holocaust?
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>>131662573
why would 70 years of crematorium innovation result in SLOWER ovens?
no amount of regulation is going to make technology regress
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>>131668690
Lel
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Germans did round up Jews (Gays, Disabled, etc) and send them to forced labour camps. Not millions of any single group, but a signficant number, and not specifically for the purpose of killing them en-masse (they had a labour shortage). Many did die due to harsh conditions and I'm sure plenty were shot by contempt of the Germans. Plenty were also experimented on by the likes of Dr. Mengele. These things are plenty abhorrent on their own, but not particularly exceptional versus the treatment of any other group seen as inferior by the nazis.

Likely 6 million Jews were displaced, escaped, went into hiding. 6 million jews may have been affected by Nazi rule, but nothing even close to that would've been killed. It isn't even feasibly possible, and would be a gigantic waste of resources. Why bother shipping them to camps, letting them live there for any length of time, before gassing them (in shoddily sealed rooms with wooden doors). They may have experimented with waterborne vaporisable poisons in the hot water on a handful of occasions, but it simply can't have been a regular and systematic practice. It wouldn't make sense, and there'd be a ton of evidence of the chemicals, who was supplying them, sealed rooms to protect guards, etc.

Like many things, they've spun the truth into an exaggerated horror narrative to suit their own goals, and in the process made it illegal in many areas to even question the official story. We've seen in recent years how readily the masses will accept a narrative like this at face value (Syrian Sarin chemical weapon strikes against "his own people" anyone?)
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>>131667370

>le 6 million gassed Jews meme

What the fuck do they teach Americans in schools?

>>131667942
>If you wanted to argue that 6 million jews died from WW2 when you add up everything could make a strong argument.

This is literally the official line though. 6 million Jews died. Not 6 millions Jews were put in camps...
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>>131667679
is this the book that discusses the masturbation machines?
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Watch One Third of the Holocaust
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The holocaust happened and it was funny. We should do it again, this timd with added muslims.
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>>131669847
You can't really destroy a body by burning in a pit. Bones really don't want to burn to ash, so you need really high temps. Open areas would let too much heat radiate away.
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>>131665601
Fuck no. You think the alphabet agencies today are bad? Shit, there was no forensic science back then. There has to be millions upon millions of undocumented assassinations and uncounted atrocities by secret organizations through history. No way the nazis would put themselves at risk telling the truth - on our turf no less.
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>>131667370
All of your math is wrong. You're a fucking retard. A least get the numbers right.
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>>131670329
>Likely 6 million Jews were displaced, escaped, went into hiding. 6 million jews may have been affected by Nazi rule, but nothing even close to that would've been killed.

Where'd they all go though? Places like Amsterdam, Warsaw, Antwerp saw very steep declines in Jewish population in the '39-45 period of the previous century..
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I don't deny the holocaust but I just assume that they did kill some jews but the number is inflated. The jews like to exaggerate.
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>>131670744
>Someone is going around killing Jews
>Are you a Jew?
.... "No."
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teds been a joke ever since it got a little popular.
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>>131661769
>Can somebody tell me why deniers are wrong?
You do realize that the standard excuse for the people who did it was either "I was just following orders" or "I didn't actually know what's going on".

Holocaust denial is so fucking stupid that it took decades for to surface so that gullible, poorly informed retards could fall for it.

It mirrors a lot of other historical charlatanism. Cheery pick some specific document or part of it, pull it out of context, ignore the mountain of evidence to the contrary and there you have it. Then you smudge it all over with red herrings and character attacks. It's enough to convince a mindless contrarian moron that usually spouts this type of nonsense.

Of course, the moment you start debunking all their crap they come out with the insults and global jewish conspiracies and whatnot.

The whole thing isn't meant to be a sound argument grounded in history. It's meant to be the first step in your recruitment.
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>>131670901

m8 the war here ended May 1945.. You'd think some of them would have come out of hiding by now, eh?
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>>131661769

From 13:11: "We cannot be beguiled by rational appearances; we've got to look underneath and we will find there the extremism."

>truth isn't relative
>(apparently) rational conclusions are invalid if they serve "extreme" motivations

Really?
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>>131669775
>hitler and his men decided to exterminate instead of relocate.

Iver never sent he proof of this though. I think the camps were typical war camps. I wouldn't be surprised if people were treated like animals and some abused to death. The kind of thing you would expect from a camp of people the country considered a threat during a war. I also think those camps went to shit with starvation and disease when the Germans could no longer supply them.
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>>131671088
Maybe they left to Israel and the US.
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If I ever found out the germans tried to kill 6 gorillion jews by shipping them to camps, then killing them in gas showers and ovens and then shipping the remains somewhere to be buried as a means of genocide. I would rezz Hitler and kill him again for doing such an inefficient job at killing jews.
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>>131671050

So you're saying the holocaust never happened?
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>>131671333
If I got an American education I would probably kill myself as well.
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>>131669847

There are stories of open pits and they dont make sense either. There was that one guy who said he witnessed them using fat women to fuel it. Which doesnt make sense science wise. And those stories about how the gas was diesel engines which makes a terrific black frightening visual image in the mind but again makes no sense. Diesel does not produce the right fumes. And the small non threatening wood burning engines used by civilians because of fuel being saved for war would have been much better for the task. Then they gave that up stopped talking about it and switched to the pest control zyklon B.

The botton line is there is way too many bullshit stories. I just dont believe the camps were meant to kill the jews. I think we ran with the stories of jews being killed that started before the fucking war because they needed war propaganda to keep the country pushing through the war. And then after they had to own it.
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>>131661769
TEDx is infested with SJWs and commie scum.
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>>131671050
>Holocaust denial is so fucking stupid that it took decades for to surface

False. Try not to fuck up next time larper.
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>>131664104
It's talking about ovens as in baking bread please point out anywhere it states 250 corpses or anything about cremation
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>>131671135
If Hitler said it, its wrong!
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>>131671601
>>131671441
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>mfw someone says the Holocaust happened.
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>>131668830
The average human body is ~94 litre's, or .2082 square meters.

So 6 million jews is ~1396201059.84 m^3, ~1.4km^3.

So 6 million dead jews would be like one and a half cubic kilometers.
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>>131661769
>>131662485
Best evidence for the holocaust.

No nazis tried to deny it happened. No one claimed they were innocent. They claimed that they weren't the decision maker, and they talked around what they did, but no one ever said "no, we didn't kill any jews wtf dude". Out of all the testifying nazis. No one claimed innocence.
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>>131662485
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>>131672036
That's because they were tortured you idiot goy.
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>>131661769
Have they ever answered how many Jews died OUTSIDE the Holocaust? How many Jews died from bullets, bombs, accidents, starvation, disease, crime, and just other random stuff that happens during wars?

I've also wondered about the economics of the Holocaust. How much would it cost to kill one prisoner with a bullet vs. gassing? How much did it cost to keep a prisoner fed, clothed, sheltered, and guarded while they worked? How much value did their work provide?
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>>131672190
Some of the holocaust perpetrators lived till they were like 90. Still no one said anything.

go back to /x/ or stormfront. Do jews control the media and economy? Yes. Have jews been responsible for horrible shit like inventing gender reassignment surgery? Yes. Did jews exaggerate the scope of the holocaust? quite possibly.

Did the holocaust happen? Yes

Germany fucked it. Once again. They could've deported them to Madagascar but they had to once again take things another fucking step too far and ruin europe and nationalism for everyone else forever. Name the jew when it's the jew's fault, name the kraut when it's the kraut's.
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>>131671933
>when a leaf makes an intelligent post
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>>131672036

3 people talked for a short time after being coerced in by their wolrd war 2 enemies. And as I said earlier one of them confessed to 2.5-3 million killed by a single camp which is impossible. The confessions are not trustworthy.
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She spends the first two minutes of the talk begging the question.

>For holocaust deniers to be right, who has to be wrong?

Her answer: If holocaust deniers are right that the holocaust did not happen, then the people that are wrong about the holocaust are the people who the holocaust happened to.

Circular af.
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>>131671947
Considering humans are 99% water, that is a severe case of overweight you're describing here.
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>>131669193
why don't you be a good goy somewhere else? huh?
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>>131666391
First deniers need to present some better proof. Twelve hour documentaries from people saying it's fake again and again, random, possibly fake, pictures with no sources and contextless gotchas are so bad it's not even worth arguing against.
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>>131672613
>Some of the holocaust perpetrators lived till they were like 90. Still no one said anything.

You mean hid until 90 because they kept their mouths shut. And as said earlier when someone accused the Nazis who were captured of boasting of it. They are on record saying they did not know about a final solution until reading about it after in the paper.
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>>131665928
REFUGEES WELCOME!
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>>131672728
Humans aren't watermelons jackass
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>>131672666
I'm not asking about who TALKED, I'm asking about who DENIED. Which of the nazis said, "hmm, they accused all of us of en masse executing people in vast quantities, actually, that didn't happen"

If hundreds of people were accused of this, how come 3 of them confessed, and NONE of them said "this never happened"?
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>>131666177
Why is there no conspiracy theory to cover all the fucked up shit the nips did besides their government saying "most shamfur, forgivaness prease"
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Stalin must be sad. He killed so many and yet no one cares. Poor Stalin.
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>>131662056
TED is full of self-righteous, libtard asshats. It's a truly sickening display of a lack of self-awareness.
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>>131672728
99%??? You're a liiiiitttllllee high.
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>>131670211
>no amount of regulation is going to make technology regress
And yet we have the tech for self driving cars TODAY and don't use it because of regulations.

The holocaust didn't happen like people would want you to believe. There was no final solution, but the Nazis DID create an untenable situation for Jews where they couldn't survive, ie hard labor under pitiable circumstances leading to massive deaths. Oh fucking well, the Jews ruined Europe twice over in the span of 30 years.

Everyone says a holocaust shouldn't have happened. They are correct. It should have been genocide. There'd be no half measures on my watch.
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>>131673332

"I first heard about gas chambers after the end of the war," says Alois Brunner, the "most wanted Nazi war criminal" still at large.

Following the Anschluss with Austria in 1938, SS Captain Brunner directed the Central Office for Jewish Emigration in Vienna, through which large numbers of Jews migrated to foreign countries.

The man known as "Eichmann's right hand" later organized deportations of Jews from Berlin, France, Slovakia and Greece to ghettos and camps in eastern Europe.

Since the 1950s he has been living in exile in Damascus, Syria, under the name of "Georg Fischer." Letter bomb attacks in 1961 and 1980 cost him one eye and the fingers of his left hand. Bodyguards constantly protect Brunner, who is now 76 or 77 years old; West Germany, Austria and France have asked for his extradition.

There are denials out there.

Also remember what the Nuremberg trial were for.

>The Tribunal shall not require proof of facts of common knowledge but shall take judicial notice thereof. It shall also take judicial notice of official governmental documents and reports of the United Nations, including the acts and documents of the committees set up in the various allied countries for the investigation of war crimes, and of records and findings of military or other Tribunals of any of the United Nations.

They were a show and the witnesses they allowed out were performing an act or they would not have been shown.
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>>131673488

People do fucked up shit in war. Asians did terrible things not just for culture but because they were basically set lose. The government mostly didnt even feed them they were expected to fend for themselves.

And there is no massive narrative for what they did outside of Pearl Harbor which was real though we in the United States pretend there wasnt a reason to attack us. Even though we were supplying arms and getting ready to get in ourselves. There is nothing to denies.
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>>131662485
Holocaust was made Jews. They wanted to cleanse their own race from shit tier people. Look at majority of the victims. Moreover, Israel won the war because before the war there was no ısrael, then it popped out of nowhere. Open your eyes fools, we, Poles, Germans, Americans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians etc., all died for the Jew so that the Jew could have a fucking home.
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My father died in the baby furnace used to keep SS Officers warm at Auschwitz when he was only 4 years old.

I never met my father because of the unjust percicution of our people and you assholes deny it?
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>>131675009
Tasty bait.
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>>131662056
Poo in loo
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>>131661769
Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alyk2g10AZk
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>>131670744
>Where'd they all go though?

You guys are making the claims of 6 millions deaths. You show the proof.

any mass graves or bodies that were gassed? murder weapon ect ect?
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>>131672728
You have absolutely no idea what youre talking about huh?
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>>131665924
my dad works at nintendo, can confirm
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>>131670744
>Nazis on the hunt for das juden
>change your last name and claim you are a gentile
>oh man, where'd all the jews go?

Jews are canonically the most cowardly race of people on earth. People named Gold or Hersch were named Goldberg and Herschberg 70 years ago. They marry their daughters off to get rid of the Jewish names, then convert the family so you end up with Jews named Smith and Jackson. These are known tactics of the Jew.
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>>131665924
It's ok buddy, I was once from t_d also. Hang around here for a bit and read the information posted in these threads.
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Looks like we are failing to give OP the good arguments here is seeking.

Its sad... if you asked this question on Reddit (a better place to get answers from the opposition) your account would just get banned.

Wonder why.
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>>131664815
Burning disease ridden lice infested bodies maybe
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>>131661769
>Behind the lies of Holocaust
:D
>denial
:(
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>>131662573
>the holocaust happened

which parts?
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>>131674696
But.........muh......6......fucking......GORILLION!
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>>131674154
>>131673241
> Getting this triggered over the density of human bodies
You're not that secure in your science huh.
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