List jobs that are not worth paying someone 15 dollars an

>>131645513
Not up to you to decide

>>131645513
Shilling

>>131645513
I only pay skilled craftsmen more than $10 an hour. Anything that doesn't require a license or special tools I'll just do myself. For that price.

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>>131645675
>>131645755

> anyone that doesn't support 15/hr wants the poor to die

>>131645513

Typing numbers into a spreadsheet.

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>>131645513

Well if you think about it a big part of pay is how much responsibility you have if the job isn't done correctly.

Medical professionals must be competent or people will be injured or dead - and lawsuits will flow. They are well paid.

Engineers must design structures correctly or buildings and bridges will collapse leading to injuries or deaths. Well paid.

Pilots must competently operate an aircraft or it will crash and people will die. Well paid.

Tyrell down at Taco Bell must assemble the Burrito correctly or a customer will be mildly inconvenienced.

Spot the difference.

$15/hr who gives a shit the real problem is with bullshit Keynesian economics and runaway inflation.

>>131646658

>Pilots must competently operate an aircraft or it will crash and people will die. Well paid.

Pilots aren't paid well at all, actually.

It's actually a gigantic meme job. If you aren't a retired military pilot, it's a seriously meme job.

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>>131645513
niggercatcher

>>131645513
President

>>131646951
I'm a pilot and I approve this message

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I always like telling lefties we should have the same minimum wage Sweden & Norway have.

>>131645513
Congress

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>>131646951

Well in Canada anyway once you get some seniority with an airline its pretty good. 100-150k +. Plus the union is fantastic with a good pension and full benefits.

You are correct though, becoming a hirable pilot through civilian training alone is a meme. Insanely expensive, terrible job prospects for time building, no guarantee of hire... no pay and huge debt. Then the airlines wonder why they are facing a crisis level pilot shortage in the next decade or so.

>>131645513
Waiter/Waitress. If customers conplain about how long their food took, they better say that shit to the chef. Waiter/Waitresses are just buffer zones to help ease tension.

>>131646930

This.

>>131647241
>$0.00
lol that's perfect

>>131647519
>>131647241

ok fuck off actually

There is no general minimum wage, instead the companies sign agreements with the unions and these agreements set the minimum level depending on the employee's age and experience.

For example, these are the current (February 2016) minimum levels for employees in hotels or restaurants:

Age 17: 84,50 sek per hour ($9,94)
Age 18: 88,60 sek per hour ($10,42)
Age 19: 96,80 sek per hour ($11,39)
Age 20 and above, with no experience and no education required: 116,90 sek per hour ($13,75)
Age 20 and above, with 6 years' experience and no education required: 124,90 sek per hour ($14,69)

>>131645513
Any manual labor that doesn't pose a significant risk of bodily injury.
Any job that requires less than 2 weeks of training to be able to perform,

And that's being generous

>>131645513
High school girls in skimpy clothes offering car washes to raise funds for some school program or other.

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>>131645513

Any job where the offer isn't at least 15 bucks an hour.

Was this a trick question?

>>131645513
Anything in retail, unless it's a high end retail store where customer service is a must to sell 10k$ watches, or dresses, suits, jewelry. But they should still not get $15, but commission instead. Any fast food job. Any food service job.

>>131647337
I'm not sure if being a commercial pilot would be awesome or incredibly boring. Seeing the horizon as you travel towards it would be great, but having to spend hours confined with another dude and make small talk just seems to take the fun out of it, while being a bit uncomfortable.

>>131647590
So there isn't really a minimum wage is what you're trying to say. The wage is negotiated. It isn't universally enforced by law.

>>131645513
Any job that can be done by a slave.

>>131645513

Social workers make that, after earning a Masters degree.

>>131645513
any job you can find people willing to do for less.

>>131647424
This. Fuck tipping culture

>>131648248
and literally every person I know who did this couldn't handle it. They changed careers in a year because of how horrible the people where and I was just listening but really wanted to scream NO FUCKING SHIT

>>131646602
But anon, nepotism is the foundation of all economic systems- how dare you deny the Good Old Boy his pencil pushing wage!

People aren't paid enough for most jobs as it is. They need a living wage for people who are willing to work and should eliminate EBT to force lazy able bodied fucks to go out and do something productive.
As it stands right now it's more beneficial for single moms to be on welfare than to get a burger flipping job. Fucking bullshit, this nanny state thing needs to stop and it should start with incentives to work, no matter what the level. Most burger flipping jobs are going to be replaced with robots anyway, so it'd encourage people to learn a trade.

>>131647952
Hope you like drinking, engaging in sexual harassment, doing nothing, and fidget spinners

>>131647241
>>131648118

you're not going to find anyplace in Norweay where you don't get paid at least 12$/hour for anyone over 16. At 18 most places have to boost that by about 20% and again at 20 years of age. At 16 I worked at a grocery store for 13.6$/hour, at an elderly home for 17$/hour and at as a dental assistant for 21$/hour before I started college. I don't know the specifics of how they do it but no business in Norway is able to take advantage of the minimum wage unless of course you're undocumented.

>>131648468

This any job helping the "less fortunate".

Police officers think they are going to help out the community and save victims, but all they do is corral the same idiotic shit rats over and over, and respond to the same domestic disputes where its the same dumbass woman who won't leave her drunk abusive man.

Everyone I know that gets into any kind of social work quickly realizes that shit rats will always be shit rats not because society opresses them but because they are fucking stupid and make bad decisions, and don't have the intellectual capacity to learn from their mistakes or understand the consequences of their actions.

>>131647241
We have a pretty good welfare, I got about 38€/day when I was unemployed for almost a year so the minimum wage has to be better than that. Also almost every company pays what the unions have decided. This way no matter where you go you wont get paid more if its the same industry but you wont be paid less either. For example i get about 14€/hour + extras for evening hours and nighttime about 17€/hour and so does everyone I work with, also the longer you have worked in the industry you get better pay and its not per company.

it depends on the productivity of the employee, there could be burger flippers that are so productive that they're worth $20 an hour, and others aren't even worth $5 an hour.

>>131649075
I have a cousin who does that shit for a living and I don't know how she manages to still be a caring person. I assume it's because she has a husband and a family and stuff like that to keep her from going crazy.

>>131645513

Anything that someone else is willing to do for less than 15/hr.

Gg.

Welcome to how reality functions.

>>131648118

Yeah, in Finland we have a risk of strike in many every few years or so when they start re-negotiating the wages because fuck getting lower pay and if you don't go to work during the strikes the union pays what you lost in wages.

> It isn't universally enforced by law.

Good luck finding employees if you don't.

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>>131648441
Your logic is completely flawed because it is the fact that restauranteurs are allowed to charge far below minimim wage that facilitates them pushing tip culture, often winding up in pay much larger than if they were paid the same as kitchen workers, without any real incentive to work harder because of the indoctrinated tip culture

Really makes you think

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>>131645513

"news anchor"

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>>131646412
Giving the poor money directly doesn't work, it's like pouring water into a thirsty man's hand. Likely they will just go out and buy a nice TV, or some other frivolity like a negro.

>>131649456
> What are incentives.

>>131647890
>any food service job

Do you only eat at TGI Friday's? Cooking for hundreds is serious business if you're not getting your shit out of a bag and heating it up

>>131646658
Most engineers are shmucks who work in residential or commercial doing retrofits to existing structures. They visit the site maybe once, make up a bunch of crap that may or may not make sense, and hope it slips past the inspector.

The biggest joke is when building engineers try to plan out the fire alarm system on the prints too. Lot of wtf moments to be had then.

>>131645513
Rapper

>>131649770
A good salary

>>131646015
Good luck growing your business

>>131645513
Border patrol.

>>131646412
$15 is about what I earn for doing a much more difficult job than retail or fast food
lazy niggers

Any type of fast food, cashier job,

>>131645513
Shareblue sock puppets.

>>131650341
Hey, we tried to have a voluntary border patrol, but the libs bitched about that too.

There's no pleasing some people.

>>131649075
pretty much this leaf they are nothing but a bunch of progressives that believe that our institutions are what keeps people down not that they are literally as you said a bunch of fucking rats

>>131650909
Exactly. I'm an apprentice electrician, and good at it. Should some dumb burger ape with a nasty attitude make as much as me?

I'm gonna take my classes this year though.

Someone post the photo of the burger with the cheese placed half off the burger. That shit gets me every time.

>>131647424
>>131648441
>>131649513

Aye boys, I'm a server and i make $2.13 an hour, but with tips i average $10 an hour. However, if at the end of a work week I average say $6.25 an hour because of slow days or poor serving, my company makes up the difference up to $7.25.

Of course servers that constantly require said assistance don't last very long. Personally I enjoy the meritocracy and on-the-spot cash. Some nights I walk out with $100 for only a 6-hour shift, and seeing as I only work during summer/ break months, my money all comes back to me anyway.

However I don't want a $15 an hour wage because I guarantee you most servers are far too retarded for their work to be worth that much. Wages based around your own ability (at least in this context) are better imo.

>>131652109
If only it felt as morally rewarding to undertip a shit server as it does to overtip one that managed to make it worth not getting take out and eating it at home.

>>131652364

I always try to be a pleasant server. Being well-groomed, well-dressed, with a clear face, shit-eating grin and friendly disposition can net you a lot of tips.

Of course I hate serving niggers. My sister works with me and we oftentimes pick up same shifts for carpooling. The other day a table of like 6 niggers came in at like 11:00am when we close at 12:00pm, ordered $75 worth of food, and didn't tip anything.

So on the one hand, you're oftentimes relying on the generosity of subhuman baboons, but there are always days when rich, white old people come in, you get to talking about going to church/ whatever, and they leave a $10 tip on an $18 check.

>>131652922
11:00pm ***

>>131652964
And I meant 12am, too. Maybe i'm the baboon here.

I own a business in a really upscale mall with a tesla store. You better believe the tesla salesmen are fucking huge chadboy shit heads. And they walk around like the own the place. So I got talking to one of the managers there and found out they all make like $11/h. Teslas sell themselves no need for a salesman lmao

>>131645513
you are literally arguing for everyone to get paid less and to qualify for gov't assistance.

>>131653181
Minimum wage is literally government assistance. The argument is about how the government should or should not most usefully intervene into what we would hope to be a reasonably free market.

>>131653570

If you assign an arbitrary minimum value to people who are objectively worth nothing, you are only lowering the value of those slightly better than the zero-value individuals.

Minimum wage being 15/hr will only negatively impact the people who are actually worth 12-25/hr, as they will not magically go up, and everyone will become equally poor as the market adjusts, automation is implemented to eliminate former "Minimum wage jobs" (See: McDonalds, Wal-Mart, etc). They're already talking about doing it in the quarterly reports.

Watch min. wage go to 15$ and suddenly no jobs are available at 15$ and minimum wage jobs are simply culled from the labor market because its' cheaper to have a machine do monkey-tier labor and pay one engineer to manage 50+ machines at a salary and with reasonable employment expectations.

Problem is the people working min. wage are largely shit-tier employees with no fucking dignity, work ethic or scruples. You can't invest in garbage.

shilling

>>131654163
I agree. I'd rather see an experiment in letting the minimum wage just get inflated out of relevance until we just do away with it altogether to simplify things. If there's some kind of exploitation or wrongdoing going on in a corporation, we have other means of redress -- corporations only exist in the first place at the pleasure of the government.

Sadly, it seems the automators are dead set on working out how to keep everybody on the reservation and in the bread lines until it's time for mass depopulation.

>>131647235
Fuck off volleyball faggot the pussy is compensation

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>>131645675
fpbp. The market decides the worth of a person's job.

>>131646412
Notice how you lack an argument, you just try to morally shame people for disagreeing. In reality, you lack any economic knowledge to come to a real conclusion.
Leftism is dying and fighting back sporadically, like a cornered, bleeding animal. Until you slow down and try to reason out your position with others (instead of accusations), you will fade.

>>131645513
mess with supply and demand see what happens

>>131654870
>mistaking OP in a screengrab

if he or she is doing something for 40 hours a week then they deserve a living wage. working half the time deserves the same hourly
rate.

>>131645513
If it was tied to inflation it would be 10$ an hour not even 15$ which my state was smart enough to do.

But I will roll with you. Cashiers easiest job in the world.

>>131649770
not dying because of a shit wage

>>131645513
oil change monkey

>>131645513
cnn reporter
hollywood screen writer
democrat congressman

>>131654688
Pussy doesn't put food on the table.

>>131645513
Quite literally everything that is not already paying 15 an hour

>>131647519
>>131647590
Dont try to inpersonify me you cuck if you call yourself slav and use a german Proxy you cant pretend that youre me i still have the tripcode REEEE

>>131645513
code monkeys

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>>131645513

As a employer , an engine shop, $15 doesn't make sense for new hires with little or no experience. For every 15 or 20 kids we hire at entry level about one will still be employed after 24 months. After 48 months thew would be earning $20-30/hr because of training.

It amazes me how many are knuckleheads or suffer from substance abuse, usually booze. Can't work if you are drunk. Too dangerous.

I can't afford to pay some kid $15/hr to sweep the floors. It doesn't work like that.

>>131655555
Checked

>>131647337
>>131647952
>>131648916
Go be a pilot in the wild jungles and mountains of Indonesia. I doubt it ever gets boring.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fLTIagVznQ

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>>131657059

Yeah, if you want to live in the wild jungles and mountains of Indonesia.

Great im sure if you don't have kids, a wife, a family, own property, want to live in not a third world shithole, etc..

>>131649899
>The biggest joke is when building engineers try to plan out the fire alarm system on the prints too. Lot of wtf moments to be had then.

I literally had to run 1/2" EMT across an elevator shaft to show a building engineer how retarded they were being. Their plans showed it and it was what was approved, they didn't want to resubmit, 2 hours later I had the pipe running down the middle of the elevator shaft and called them over to show them. It still took convincing.

>>131645513
- truck driver
- welder
- most construction jobs

Working in a startup or small business, which you should have stake in instead.

For big, efficient companies who need bodies on a floor to achieve a task, that task is flipping thousands of dollars per day, sometimes per hour. if the person has enough of a role to play that they are hired for permanent employment, they are worth 15 bucks an hour... maybe a little less.

of course this may cause employers to take other avenues to cut costs involving reducing the number of jobs to keep their margins large, which would have a worse net effect than having employees underpaid.

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>>131658082


Who the fuck wants that? What a boring life, Jesus christ.

Being a youtuber.

>>131645513
I make $120 an hour no joke, enough to pay two guys at $30 to do my job. Or a couple of guys in india at $10

>>131645513
McDonald's

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>all of them

>>131656086
It does when the pussy is on the table

>>131647133
The current US President accepts $0.00 per hour.

>>131646658
It's purely a matter of supply and demand.
Supply for fast food workers is high, if one worker is fired the manager can find a replacement within days.
Now look at, say, Alaskan crab fishermen, where the skill requirements and personal safety risks drive supply down.
Now compare the wages of the two jobs.

>>131645513
Blowjobs.

>>131664806
pssh

You can get those in exchange for kerosene behind the grocery store during cold weather.

>>131646951
Not in Canada my mom told me they make 100k a year. She works for the airline

SURVEY THREAD
you are fools, don't provide market relevant data on anonymous imageboards

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>>131663351
if only there was a way to make fast food work more skilled n dangerous.

>>131650909
That's cool. I make $19/hr as a sales specialist in the appliance department at Lowe's.

>>131649730

> economy stimulation

>>131647590

based on age is an excellent idea actually, that way you can reserve lower wages for the high school kids who are just saving for college or party money - and reserve higher wages for actual adults trying to keep their house afloat

>>131657059
>>131658082
>>131659464

Pay $100 for a couple thai/singapore hookers and have them the whole damn week.

> last I heard was 20 would buy a whole week with a hooker there

>>131658257

> Truck Driver

Mandatory 12-16 hour shifts and being required to be gone for days at a time demands a higher price. Not only long hours but the difficulty of the work, staying awake and having to prep to live on the road.

Its also risky since you can be hijacked, and they just removed the ability for truck drivers to carry weapons (which increases risk, and demands an even Higher wage to compensate).

> also a risk because, yknow if you've got a girlfriend or wife... thats a long time you're leaving her alone at the house.

It also requires training, which can sometimes cost more than $5000 out of pocket before you even get your CDL.

If you piss on the truck drivers you'll have less applicants, you'll have a drain on available drivers, and you'll have to raise the wages to get more people interested in taking the training.

> Welders
welders face too much risk for their job, and it requires too much concentration, and some lead time on training for them to be paid so little. They create something which is permanent too.

also the employment isnt consistent for welders

they get paid $40 per hour to make it worth their while

Any job that creates something permanent, non-consumable, demands a high price.

> Construction
If its not enough to pay for a house/rent as well as all lifestyle expenses then whats the point of contributing.

The only way you'll get construction workers to stick around long enough to get the skills they need (to make something good) is to pay them well. Though construction often pays as low as 10 or 12 per hour.

Construction creates something permanent (*well until some douche decides to tear it down). Jobs that produce something permanent, non-consumable, demand a high price.

>>131645513
4chan mod

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>>131646951

Neither are the controllers anymore. Used to be. But thanks to Obama, the rate of pay for ATC has gone to shit unless you've been around for a while.

>>131645513
You are paying for their time, not just their labor, so every job deserves it

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>>131664806

>Implying Shaniqua on hwy 441 is worth $15 for a cock suck.

Haha..haha..I make 8 bucks a day.

>>131645513
You clearly don't understand the value of $15, just like everyone else calling for 15minwage. You just haven't faced financial hardship.