>Guy wants to kill himself >You tell him not to >He

>>131637325
Have you even read the messages or are you just baiting?

>>131637325
I read the texts. She didnt talk him out of it at all. Kept asking if he is going to do it today, kept saying it was what he wanted, kept saying she was disappointed he didnt kill himself like he promised her.

Women are absolutely horrible pieces of shit and deserve no sympathy, compassion or leniency. Rape them before they get raped by niggers and arabs and go full purple lipstick green hair sjw.

>>131637325
>b-but muh 1st amendment
>muh free speech
americucks on suicide watch

those who defend that bitch are beta males who would be stuck with a girl only because she's cute despite being evil


then she tells them to kill themselves and they do it

OP is one of those

>>131637518
>t. angry virgin

>>131637325
Learn to read. Then read the texts. Until then sage.

>>131637325
>relevant to politics

>>131637325
Americans kill each other, just like spiders and sand niggers.

>>131637518
Thats a little over the top lil' guy .
Theres plenty of good chicks out there, or even semi normal ones. Not batshit insane teen bitches like that one.
Dont project your anger at people, use it for training ( martial arts in any form, lifting, cardio etc)
Youll feel alot better.

>>131637325
>jail for 20 years
Source? Oh yeah, that's right, you're a larping virgin who posts this misinformation like clockwork. You'll pay up soon enough, and it'll be great.

>>131637325
>i trol u

sage

>>131637600

two pyschopaths on SSRI's

Context, motherfucker. OP thinks world is black and white. It isn't as simple as "I want to kill myself." "Ok do it". And by the way OP, you are a retard.

I literally hate women, don't get me wrong, but I just can't blame this chick for the dude's suicide. Just seems like the ultimate bitch move to blame some one else for killing yourself.

>>131637770
Gi suck your dad off bitch. Im no virgin, have a kid Ive only seen 3 times in my life I'm stuck paying for.

>>131638073
How so? Women love to be raped. That is an undeniable fact. What they get upset about is you leaving them, not the rape part at all. There are no good women left. Either married right out of high school or became a gold digging bitch, single women my age likely had kids with a nigger or mexican, are on heeoin or whatever opioids they can get. Only will talk to you if you have a hundred dollars to send them.

>>131637325
W2C that shirt?

>>131637325
Defend this.

>accessory to murder

>>131638864
You sound a lot like you dont interact much outside of your little internet safe spaces like /pol mate.
Im not trying to offend you or anything but you smell of fear.

And I havent met a lot of women who would enjoy an actual rape. I had some chicks who liked to be choked when you fuck em, but they also choked me while riding me etc. Also an orgasm is normal because of physical arousal not mental arousal. you get it?

You should really sort yourself out. listen to some Peterson, read some Marc Aurel, throw in the old testament for good measure.
But first of all, sort yourself out man, you have way too much fear and anger build up inside of you, youre gonna blow one day and do something stupid.

>>131637325
tbqh, if some chick can drive you to suicide over text messages, you didn't deserve to live in the first place...

>>131637325
Damn what a shame this qt has to go to jail because of a pathetic beta cuck

>>131638864
Oh shit i didnt read your response to the other anon.
That true? or are you just LARPing ? I cant tell.
And why would you sperg out on ALL women if ones a giant cunt, for every cunt theres a few good ones.

>>131637325
Fuck both of them, nothing of value was lost.

>>131639345
She doesnt go to jail because of that one poor beta sod. Shes going to jail for what she did, pressuring a young scared boy into suicide when he clearly was just out for attention in the first place.
You people are mental children when it comes to empathy and psychology

>>131638864
You're on the wrong board m8

>>131638864
>kid Ive only seen 3 times in my life I'm stuck paying for.

Father of the year right here

>>131639311
Do you have pretty seashells there?

>>131639517
>(((empathy)))
>(((psychology)))

>>131639517
.t cuck-bot

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>>131639715
sure... guess where I sell them.

>>131639997
By the seashore!?

She's not going to jail because the guy killed himself. She is going to jail because she coerced him into killing himself to get sympathy and praise from other people that her "friend" died. I'm not justifying the verdict, but I'm also not upset that this mentality deranged girl is behind bars.

You could always White Knight her from prison and send her notes and goodies.

>>131639926
Cuck bot in the way that i probably wouldve killed that cunt if i were the father of that boy.
And a man that has 3 gf at the same time cant be a cuck bot. im more of a degenerate with a heart.

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>>131637325
>he gets out of car filled with exhaust.
>she tells him to get back inside it.

Did she get her sentence?

> 1 post by this ID
every fucking time

>>131637325
not what happened

>>131640203
She's going to jail because she ordered him back in the car when he had second thoughts.

>>131637325
She literally dindu nuffin wrong, she's being made an example for the muh feels politics and justice, expect to be sent prison for hurting minorities feefees even with facts and statistics

>>131640386
All right all right, don't get all worked up :)

i would definitely be her prison pen pal

>>131639228
>I had some chicks who liked to be choked when you fuck em

This is way too normal. Why do girls like this?

>>131637325
Veiled MGTOW bait thread. Only a go there own way fag or an ugly woman would condemn her. So what if she is evil you have a right to be evil in America you pussy faggots go back off.

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>>131637325
Private for profit prisons need te be filled in capitalistic (((America)))

>>131640600
Again, I'm not upset she's going to jail. But I just don't know if that is a crime. Imagine is Milo or someone on the right told an SJW to jump off a bridge and they did. Should they go to jail? I know this is a much different story but I'm worried they will use this case to set a bad precedent.

>>131637325
who would kill themselves over that fivehead?

>>131637325

You are required by law to help someone in distress (illegal to pass by a car accident if you're the first on scene).

What she did was very close to direct murder.

>>131638864
This guy is pretty much correct. All women that I've known and interacted with are the most degenerate beings I've seen. These aren't women that are portrayed in media, but rather everyday working class women. Every single one of them are manipulative and if you don't agree then you're just blind to what goes on. It's easy to fall into the trap of being on the female's side when you buy into the jew media that women are all victims.

>>131639599
As for this guy, I've seen parents get completely wrecked in legal cases where they lose complete custody but still must pay until they're of age. A family member of mine is forced to pay thousands in child support when he can't even see his kid, even when the legal document says they must have custody of them for x amount of days. Anon probably just got worked into the system and can't get out, likely because he got fucked by a female.

>>131640253
>You could always White Knight her from prison and send her notes and goodies.
She's send notes back saying kys pls

>>131637325
>1 post by this ID
Nice b8 m8

>>131641109
>tfw no qt qt grill to tell you to kill yourself every single day until you like it and do it

why even live

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What happened

Dead Faggot:
>"I want to kys myself"
>"I want to kys myself"
>"I want to kys myself"
>"my life is so horrible"
>"I want to kys myself"
>kys himself
Homo-knights: "DUDE HE WAS MANIPULATED"

Underaged girl:
>"don't kys yourself"
>"seek help"
>"u have so much to live for"
>"u can always talk to me"
>"ok it sounds like you are absolutely sure that you are better off dead. It sounds like your life is very painful because you have been talking about kys for months on end so it sounds like u thought it out and I support your decision. Rest In Peace, friend"
Homo-knights: "WHAT A LYING MANIPULATIVE BITCH"

>>131639997
RARE
A
R
E

>>131637325
Id like to start by saying this girl is mentally ill and needs to be locked up in a psych ward not a jail cell due to some weird varient of munchausens by proxy. anyways if the conversation happened like that she would not have been indicted in the first place. what she said and did was heinous. The only possible defense for her case is that she was panicking under the psychological effect that occurs when someone you care about threatens suicide. this of course did not hold up because the conversation was over the course of multiple days if not weeks meaning she would have had time to calm down and speak rationally i.e tell him to get help, which of course she never did. on top of this she was using her boyfriends death to garner sympathy.
tl:dr her actions showed she had a plan to improve her social status involving her boyfriends death and she carried it out over an extended period of time. thats 1st degree murder

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>>131637325
Brandenburg V Ohio 1969 states that speech that advocates for lawless actions, including any kind of violence, is protected speech even if it is believed the speech will actually cause lawless action.
tl;dr: Telling someone you think they should kill themselves is protected by the constitution and whichever liberal crybaby handed down that sentence should be lynched.

>>131637518
Lol depressive beta confirmed. Sure what she did was shitty but the guy had serious mental issues especially if he was trusting a sociopatg like her. She should get a slap on tge wrist 1 year of prison. Lets not ruin her life

>>131641680
> i.e tell him to get help

She did tell him to get help, he didn't listen, he just wanted to kill himself.

>>131637325
If you think this bitch does not deserve 20 years in prison you have problems mate.
We don't have to defend nothing, she will pay for what she did.
All of us already suffer this type of abuses from this type of psycho girls.
Fuck her, I hope she rotten in prison.

>>131637761
>those who defend that bitch are beta males

You got that backwards. Those who empathize with the beta suicidal fag who actually listened to a girl are the betas.

>>131638420
>>131637325
She has Munchhausen's by proxy. She's a fucking criminal.

>I want to kill myself
Do it faggot

Is this not the 4chan approved response?

>>131638638
True. I'm on her side. She seemed to think that he hated his life so much he'd be happier if he was dead.

>>131639311
Holy shit RARE

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>>131637325
>if someone says they want to kill themselves, the only option is for you to directly encourage them

Why didn't she just dump this kid and move on with her life

Why did she spend two years actively encouraging him to kill himself

>>131637325
She's a nasty evil cunt.

>>131641840
your right... i didnt know that until i read the transcript just now. never really mentioned she said that in the news. i need more time to think this got a lot more complicated

>>131640979
Agreed. I believe in free speech to the purist degree. Ultimately he made the decision to end his life.

She was a bitch, sure. But if being a bitch was a crime we wouldn't have any women to reproduce and society would end.

>>131641840
>>131642326
it looks like in the month of june she was encouraging him to seek help but in july her tone completely changed. anyone know what happened?

>>131642514
She got fucking sick and god damn tired of listening to her beta clingy bitch boyfriend and figured if he just offed himself she wouldn't have to deal with his whiny ass anymore?

>>131638864
sup mike
if you put her through the wood chipper i will tell the police you're suspect #1
they already know that though considering youve been arrested for saying this shit before.

>>131640979
it depends if he told the person to kill themselves directly and they did then yes he would be held responsible

>>131642514
She finally got tired of him.
>It seems like this month the woman was ok with her husband beating her, but then this next month she decided to leave him, what happened?

>>131641811
yup she is a sociopath as it portrays through her texting. People like her should be locked away for many years. It serves humanity a deed

If all she said was okay fine do it then this would be an outrage...the fag bitched out and she talked him in to doing it.

>>131642647
Kill yourself.

The guy killed himself. Case closed. At the end of the day, the only person who did it was him. He chose to do what he did. He chose to respond to what she said as motivation to kill himself.

The problem this presents, and which is why you should protest or at least write a strongly-written letter rather than sitting down on /pol/ like the cowardly little shit that you are, is that it sets a precedent. Imagine this scenario: You tell someone to kill themselves on /b/. That person is depressed as fuck, having the worst day of his life, and is in a completely different world than you are. He's like "yeah you know what I'm going to fucking do it". His family now has the right to sue you, and you can go to jail for 20+ years for it.

That's the precedent this says. In the future a judge can look at this and say, "Well SHE went to jail! So this person must as well!'

>land of muh freedom
>going to jail for words

She is a bitch but it was ultimately his decision. Jail time is not warranted.

>>131637325
Damn OP let it go. It's old news. Move on man. You are acting all cringy and clingy

>>131637325
Thats not what happened though.

>>131642574
>>131642691
it just gets weird when you throw in the fact that she was trying to get sympathy for it and told people he killed himself before he actually did

>>131642890
you dig too deeply into this anybody who expects to get back at someone this way has to actually die to do so. You'd need to surround yourself with muslims basically.

>>131642915
>That's the precedent this says. In the future a judge can look at this and say, "Well SHE went to jail! So this person must as well!'
not at all. If I talked you into murdering someone even though you were obviously having doubts about it, I would be held liable as well.

Here in Italy, we make the girls kill themselves, never the other way around

>Freedom of Speech
>Can't tell some sorry ass sack of shit to KYS.

lol usa

>>131642257
this, its just like the MSM to portray her as the innocent victim, even if the guy was a beta, suicide's a crime and she helped him commit it.

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>>131637325
As much as I feel it's ridiculous to send a person to jail just for saying words, she went in to coax that little beta cuck into killing himself from the get go. Her stake in this game was attention. She executed it haphazardly and knew paid the price. His family and the mob wanted a skapegoat.

>>131642574
>>131642691
of course theres a possibility she was sick of his whiny ass but she did tolerate him for like 2 years right? Isnt it possible her tone changed because she realized she could benefit from his death? i obviously dont know nearly enough about this case to draw any conclusions

>>131642514
Probably realized all the attention she would get?

>>131643375
and knew she had to pay the price*

>>131642982
Weird or not, it makes no difference to me personally. In my eyes and interpretation of the laws in the United States of America, she did not commit a crime.

She was just a bitch.

>>131642252
>this kid
He was an adult, she was the child.

>Why did she spend two years actively encouraging him to kill himself
She didn't she tried to get him not to. Don't know if they even knew eachother for 2 years.

>>131643338
>suicide's a crime and she helped him commit it
of course a leaf would bend over and not assume any agency over his own actions

she didn't have a gun to his fucking head, he had full control over his actions

Didn't this bitch have shirts printed and whatnot to commemorate his memory after the fact? I remember vaguely that she was trying to jew her classmates.

>>131643338
If suicide is a crime, it shouldn't be.

>>131643524
>she did not commit a crime.

Not according to... the law.

>>131643570
>>131643827
just like two fucking morons to be completely ignorant of the law.

>>131641321
THEY SHOULD PROTEST AND GO KILL THEMSELVES EVERYONE WHO SUPPPORTED THIS STUPID WHATVER COURT OR WHATEVER TH EFUCK IT IS

So she got 20 years, right ? I do hope so.

>>131637796
Can't tell people your saging faggot

>>131641321
pretty much this. The faggot's only way to garner her attention was with a noose around his neck. It was out of sheer frustration that she said anything she did. She didn't take advantage of him, she didn't do anything wrong besides not remaining calm and dealing with the situation.

>>131644140
Why should you not be allowed to end your life if you so wish to?

>>131644140
One look on Wikipedia says suicide is not a crime anywhere in the United States.

LMAO bitch needs to lrn2troll

>>131644147
Thot status: patrolled

>>131641321
>>131637600
HOW THE FUCK
>>131637325
do
YOU GUYS THINK THIS SHITS FUNNY?/ ITS DUMB ITS

Ffuck that court though. faggot homo should be in jail every second hes not and she is they are perverted about this shit whiCH IS WHY
FUCK THIS SHIT >>131644143

is waht i said

>>131643912
(((the law)))

>>131644548
he proably was thinkingwhat the girl could do for (((him)))

>>131644634
>cough if you read
>>131641321
the text's

>>131637325
Sage

All fags saying she deserves jail, nys

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>Leads MGTOW movement
>>131637325

>>131644894
well ever since 2013 2012... BIG MGTOW movoement thing, he was a forum moderator
"oh you know no big deal" of the big mgtow forum i guess
made a forum out of his popularity big

i could find

-all these guys who do agree allcame from this

>>131637518
IDGAF. If you're so weak that some trollop can talk you into offing yourself, good riddance. It's good that he did it before he procreated.

>>131637325
Stop spamming this bullshit all the time. Who fucking cares? A roastie is in jail. Justice served.

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>>131637761

Works almost every time.

>>131642574

Your leaving out how she cried for sympathy after and started a cash fund in his name.

I wonder why. Oh wait. I know. You've got an agenda to push.

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>>131644739
look at this proud white knight. she literally coaxed a guy to kill himself. she didnt text "kill urself xD xD!!11!1!" I am guessing you didn't read the transcripts because you are a male feminist that cant read.

As someone who has had to deal with a whiny beta fuck who threatened suicide every other week for attention, after a long enough time you kinda start to wish theyd just fucking do it. Nothing is gonna help these mentally ill faggots

>>131638218
>sage no longer works
>tells people he saged
Sure is summer around here

>>131645653
>Coaxed him
>With texts
>To kill himself

Do people really have this little sense of personal responsibility, they'll blame someone else for them choosing to kill themselves when all the other person did is send some words.

>>131645876
When did sage stop working?
I don't use it all that much so I didn't notice

>>131645653
What cuck let himself get coaxed to off himself by a chick? The chick didn't do jackshit other than troll some random dumbass to quit breathing.

>>131645964
>>131646104
He had mental issues but it didnt sound like he wanted to do it if you WOULD FUCKIN READ THE TRANSCRIPT you would know it was way more than just a couple texts. she helped him plan it out and would check on him everyday. "you do it yet?" saying go here do this and do that. Why the fuck are people defending this sick cunt is it because they are jealous he got to at least talk to girls but you dont?

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>>131645436
Lol your english, wtf do you know about free thought? Read the text faggot, her ex was a fucking pussy

>>131646682
>He had mental issues
what mental issues did he have?

>it didnt sound like he wanted to do it
yet he still did, under his own free will

>>131646682
>He had mental issues but it didnt sound like he wanted to do it if you WOULD FUCKIN READ THE TRANSCRIPT THROUGH THE EYES OF A BETA KEK LIKE ME

Fixed.

>>131647140
What for real? They just filtered my favorite word in the world? What has /pol/ come to.

>>131646682
He wanted to do it, he'd been talking about it for months and tried to do it before but failed. The only one between them who ever wanted him not to die, was her.

>>131647238
>mfw t_d can't overuse it now
It's a Pyrrhic victory

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>>131637325

the truth is they were both fucked up and flawed human beings to begin with and they both deserved what they got

>>131645653
Fucking weak beta cuck. Do you know what any reasonable person who isn't suicidal would do with some chick who is trying to get him to kill himself? He'd cut contact off with her. Fuck that guy. I'm glad he's dead, and I'm glad he killed himself before he had children.

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>>131637600
shes literally me

>>131647238
>just filtered
hello newfag

>>131637518
This.
If the guy was being a whiny faggot and she was getting sick of it, the sentence would be ridiculous. But she's a cunt so I don't really care that she goes to jail.

>>131647813
>Doesn't care that taxdonkies are paying for her
Yeah, so if you don't care about the faggot, why are you OK with taxpayers supporting her? Prison isn't free.

>>131647436
No the girl was alright to begin with, she told him to get help and all that.

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>>131647475
Being suicidal isnt aids you fucking inbred. He was just really depressed. it has nothing to deal with being a Beta. flip the sexs around and I would think the dude should be punished as well.
All you triggered faggots can complain all you want but she is in jail and there is nothing you can do about it hahahahaha

>>131637325
>20 years

Well lady you wanted equal rights now you get equality in the same system we have.

There's a difference between empty suggestions online like "KYS", and this bitch telling him literally how and when to kill himself while he's giving her a play-by-play of the whole situation.

>>131645436
And still none of that, equates to a crime. No matter what your feelings tell you.

>>131648947
Both of those involve no force, just words that you can easily ignore and get on with your life.

>>131649111

Yes, but when the victim is actually psychologically fucked and mentally challenged, and the defendant establishing a position of authority, the latter transcends the point of being an "empty suggestion"

>>131641689
Killing yourself isn't a lawless action, in the category of lawless action, and definitely isn't violence in itself. Self harm is not classified as violence. Killing yourself alone is not violence, blowing yourself up with a bomb is violence.

Learn the difference.

THE real crime here is having such a fugly girlfriend.

>>131648771
I'm not being edgy. I'm seriously glad that he did it before he had kids. You weak faggots will be the downfall of liberty and civilization.

Hard times create strong men.
Strong men create good times.
Good times create weak men.
Weak men create hard times.

>>131649336
The defendant also, years prior, told the """""victim""""" to seek help and he refused.

So one text makes her a beautiful anglo white savior? And then one other text makes her literally demon semon hitler who deserves prison?

The bitch didn't commit a crime. End of story.

>>131637761
>cute
Where?

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>>131637325
So much for muh free speech tho

>>131649111
Assisted suicide is a crime in a lot of places.

I guess people who chicken out of suicide pacts are murderers then. "You didn't stop him. You encouraged him. So you're a murderer"

>>131648771
>He was just really depressed
I've been really depressed, like to the point of seriously debating whether to commit suicide or not. No one else's opinion of whether I should commit suicide ever played a part in my decision making basis. If you let other people govern your life to the point where you commit suicide for them then you are fucking hopeless.

>All you triggered faggots can complain all you want but she is in jail and there is nothing you can do about it hahahahaha
keep throwing those freedoms away burgeranon, i'm sure you won't need them

>>131649336
>psychologically fucked and mentally challenged
Source, other than muh depression?

>the defendant establishing a position of authority
she had no authority, she is a teen girl. he had full control over his actions.

>>131649336
>position of authority
>some random underaged girl while you're an adult also you don't live with her and nothing about her gives her authority over you

Nope.

>>131637325
She pressured him into doing it. It's clear from the messages he wouldn't have done it had she not kept bringing it up and encouraging him.

>>131650038
>pressured
What pressure? What threat was he under?

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>>131649988
>hiding his flag behind a faggy nazi flag
>thinks anyone will take him seriously

>>131641886
no you

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>>131650292
>doesn't address any of my points

>>131650038
Send me all your money. I'm pressuring you by sending you this message to do it.

>>131649336
That bitch had psychological history too, so probably she was also fucked up in the head.

If there is anything to argue here, is how piece of shit you have to be as a criminal lawyer to loose this case for her? This shit was cake in the bag. Easily you can prove she was not directly involved in his killing and that due to her psychiatric history, she might had not been conscious of the implications of what she was texting.

Then again this happened in Cucklifornia

>>131650038
She also "pressured" him into seeing a therapist, which, he refused. Why did he have self-control ignoring her plights to seek help, but fail to have this same self-control when she "commanded" him to off himself?

The argument against her is inconsistent, relies on feelings, has no laws to back it up, this is /pol/, not fucking reddit. Think logically you turds.

She is a grade A cunt, but she is not a criminal.

>>131637325
>>Guy wants to kill himself
>>You tell him not to
>>He keeps saying he really wants to
>>You say ok fine do it
>>You go to jail for 20 years
>Defend this.
I think she should be rewarded. Yes I'm heartless, but he was a fuckup and the world is better without him. Her only mistake was not cutting all ties with him sooner instead of calling him out on his bullshit.

>>131650791
>>131650287
>>131650585
DESU I shouldn't have expected people to understand who are only hearing about this story recently. Everyone at the time was on the boys side. She CLEARLY did it for attention so she could say "wahhh this guy I really liked killed himself" That was the motive. Everyone who was around at the time knows this. How can you not see from the messages that she clearly wanted him to kill himself? She acts like she's doing it for him but only autism would believe her. You're all fucked or trolling.

>>131647436
Look faggot ill come punch you in your face
thats waht we used to do when we done tahat in school, I punched somene in their face once thinking that shit was funny just coming up to me

YOu faggots act like its funny not knowing about it or something onw on the internet
your dumb.

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>>131651185
>still has YET to say what CRIME she committed other than being a cunt
I'm waiting.

>>131651185
Most of us aren't saying that she isn't a piece of shit, they're saying what she did shouldn't be considered a crime. If you seriously want people to be jailed for words then you need to fuck off back to t_d where you belong.

>>131651185
She did want him to kill himself, but that was only after he kept saying he wanted to for months, at first she told him not to. Anyway there's nothing wrong with wanting someone dead.

>words have now become sticks and stones

How fucked are we lads? Is self responsibility completely gone?

>>131637325
To me if he was already suicidal and she egged him on a sentance of 10 years should do for manslaughter

If she intentionally made him suicidal 20 is good for murder

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Look at all that criminal scum...

>>131651915
No wonder all the hate speech law having euro countries in this thread support her being jailed.

>>131651337
Depends what state you are in but
>If you knowingly advice/suggest methods of attempting suicide, wholly voluntarily with absolute knowledge of the person asking the question, it would be a crime if it is proved in the court of law.

It comes under manslaughter
http://www.patientsrightscouncil.org/site/assisted-suicide-state-laws/

>>131652353
Exactly. It's the same crowd who claim calling someone a nigger or faggot or spic somehow hurts their feelings so much that it should be outlawed. It's called white guilt and that's all

These laws make sense if we are all in middle school, but to charge adults with stuff like this is ludicrous

>>131637325
shes just going to jail cus shes white, if it had been a nigger nothing would of happened

>>131641321
lol, she knew exactly what she was doing. She cornered him between going to a hospital (which she knew he wasn't ready to do) and pushing him to kill himself and whenhe didn't seek help that day, she "proved" to him that it was over, he had no chance of recovery and that he should kill himself. And imagine that this is the only "positive"-sounding (but not really, just another angle of manipulation) message out of the thousands they exchanged. GG ez no re

>>131652150
if you seriously dont understand the difference between "kys xD"
and
>You do it yet?
>When are you going to?
>Today would be good
>You do it yet?
>Just do it today!
>You do it yet?
>yeah go do it there the world would be better
>you do it yet?
Why do you want sick cunts like this to be running around? talk about beta cucks. all because she is a girls she DINDU NUFFIN.

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tfw there are people here legitimately too stupid to understand the difference between saying "lol KYS" and spending months encouraging someone to kill themselves through manipulation at levels only a woman could achieve, topping off the shit sundae you served up with the cherry of a text convincing him to get back in the truck after he tried to back down.

Perfect example of what a woman can be if you don't tame her. She should be gang raped and then executed. White Sharia now.

if someone threatens to kill themself and they do it its on them. if she planted the seed to begin with then fine, its her to blame. but dont jail someone for voicing their opinion or being blunt with someone who told them they want to kill themselves.

>>131653155
She is a chubby white girl with mental problems, if you are going to tame her, make sure she is a second wife or mistress.

This entire case is bullshit.

>>131653086
>Why do you want sick cunts like this to be running around?
Society is broken, but it definitely doesn't get fixed by punishing people for the words they speak.

>>131653134
>encouraging someone to kill themselves through manipulation at levels only a woman could achieve
>being this much of a fag that a fucking girl can convince you to commit suicide

sort yourself out anon. i don't care how fucking long she sat there telling him to kill himself, it was ultimately his decision. she didn't pull the trigger.

>>131641689
>speech that advocates for lawless actions, including any kind of violence, is protected speech even if it is believed the speech will actually cause lawless action.
you're close, but it said that speech that advocates for lawless actions, including any kind of violence, is protected speech unless it is believed the speech will actually cause lawless action.

significant difference

>>131652956
>And imagine that this is the only "positive"-sounding (but not really, just another angle of manipulation) message out of the thousands they exchanged.

What are you talking about, the messages on June 19th, June 23rd, and July 7th all tell him to get help. I imagine they were all positive before that time too.

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>>131637325
slide thread

>>131653237
First, they only met twice. Second, she tried to talk him out of it for over a year. She came to the conclusion that it was what he wanted.
Third, he was beaten by his Dad, which was why he wanted to commit suicide in the first place.

Anon, why was the Dad not charged for causing the suicide?

>>131641976
Severely underrated post

/end
/fucking
/thread

>>131653134
>manipulation

She was the one who was manipulated. He always wanted to kill himself and tried before. She is the one who changed, from wanting him not to kill himself, until eventually agreeing with him that he should die. She was manipulated by him.

>>131637325
I'm not. Guys a whiny faggot and would've ended up killing himself sometime in the near future anyways. Beta cucks on this site might defend this bullshit because they identify with the kid.

>>131653785
His own family had told him to kill himself. If you have ever been around someone this you get the point you have just had enough. Why were family members not charged?

>>131653901
Unfortunately, she was a poor fag, represented by a Pro Bono lawyer. She has limited resources to bring in an expert to argue the point you are making.
The suicide kids family has political connection, that is why this piece of shit case was brought.

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>>131637325
I don't give a FUCK what you tell some suicidal, normie, pussy it's on HIM if he kills HIMSELF. This will end poorly for America.

Only two POV here;

1) She's an evil cunt but committed no crime in telling a weak fgt to off himself, even if she told him with detail how to do it and even if such fgt actually did it.

Or

2) She an evil gril and deserves jail n raep for killing a loving dood that only wanted love <3. World needs more trigger warnings to protect sensible people to not kill themselves. #impeachdrumpf

>>131654531
Anon, you missed the fact the Prosecutor is a cousin

>>131653134
>at levels only a woman could achieve,
this shows you have some general woman hatred, so your opinon on the case cannot be trusted

she is innocent and does not deserve 1 year in jail

she should have at least reported it. 20 years seem a bit much for me, the dude was clearly insufferable i would have told him to fuck off too.

>>131645436
>name
A girl has none

>>131637518
P-Pol will l-love this!

Is the only thing she is guilty of not calling authorities?

But we can understand how hard that would be feeling like she betrayed him.

She also was too 'kind' to simply stop all contact with him.

her biggest crime was trusting him, and believing him, that he was sincere?

That he truly absolutely was certain he wanted his plug pulled. How long could they have gone on about it, and him saying he was certain, but not being so, 5 years 10 years, did you do it yet, today? today?

Are medical mental facilities guilty in this case, for not appearing trust worthy enough to help him?

>>131653470
>it was ultimately his decision
It was, which is why she isn't guilty of murder. As much as edgelords like you want to pretend otherwise, she bares some responsibility for manipulating someone particularly vulnerable.

Words have consequences, especially words that are put into action. You should understand, you wouldn't be here acting like a faggot if your father hadn't spent years calling you one.

>>131655279
one can only hope this is fake news to implement suicide facilities to take the burden off of kids friends

>>131655279
wow that's very naive for someone on this board.

>>131655502
words have consequences? how many times did he say he wanted to kill himself?

>>131654847
Yeah okay. Women can be predatory socially in ways most men can't dream of. Convincing yourself otherwise isn't doing anyone any favors.

>>131655593
And how many times did she encourage him? More importantly, she wasn't found guilty for her encouragement, she was found guilty because she told him to get back in the truck.

>I only said I want to kill the president on Facebook, WHY AM I BE ARRESTED IT WAS JUST WORDS.

>>131655515
explain

The way I see it, he is 'murdering her', a person that over a span of time was certain they wanted to kill themselves, so certain they would not seek help, and brave enough to put all this pressure on their 'friend', to bother them day in and out with this weighty subject, pain pain pain despair death,

she trusted and believed him and thought they had a true bond of friendship. There are some people that are certain they do not want to live any more. saying it 5 or 15 times is something, but discussing it over a however long period is something else, and convincing her he was certain. So at the point, she could not think anything else than she was helping to put him out of his misery

so much so that she could have easily phoned the authorities ("look at these texts, my 'friend' is serious about wanting to kill his self"), but she cared so much about him, and believed when he said it would be worse for him to go through that, that she did not want to go behind his back and turn him in.

Her life does not deserve to be ruined because she attempted to help her friend do what their friend swore over much time they absolutely needed to do

>>131655502
>manipulating someone particularly vulnerable
He was depressed, he wasn't a retard incapable of independent thought. He could have very easily told her to fuck off.

>Words have consequences, especially words that are put into action
Put into action by him not her. She merely said things.

>>131655695
>Women can be predatory socially in ways most men can't dream of
t. cuck who lets women have power over him.

>>131652635
I agree to some point but don't you think there should be consequences if lets say a black man, stood right in front of you and called you a fat crackwhore kid 500 times?

>>131655902
I want to kill you =/= I want you to kill yourself

>>131655695
>Women can be predatory socially in ways most men can't dream of. Convincing yourself otherwise isn't doing anyone any favors.
"Women have more power and do more bad stuff, socially, than men". um, ok, I guess shes guilty

>>131655902
Newfag, the 17 year old was found guilty because she was poor. You do know her Pro Bono lawyer refused to do a trial by Jury.

>>131656205
Just illustrating that words carry weight. You can't spend months manipulating a vulnerable person into committing a crime without consequences.

>>131656199
>don't you think there should be consequences if lets say a black man, stood right in front of you and called you a fat crackwhore kid 500 times?
>sweden
If you weren't such a submissive bitch you could maybe call him a nigger back rather than calling the police because someone said nasty things to you.

>>131656199
There is consequence. That nigger will probably be unable to walk for a few weeks, and the law will probably not cover him because he was provoking.

Is not the same with a fucking text where you can just block someone.

>>131656332
Yeah okay, if you inferred that from the post you're a retard and we're done.

she. should. have. gotten. life.

>>131656416
Pls post a picture of yourself with at timestamp. I want to see this testament to willpower you are.

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>>131637325
>Defend this.
Or how about we refuse to give 2/10 bait 300 replies?

>>131656398
if you are weak enough to contemplate suicide and not face the world head on,you don't have the right to life

>>131656650
Post a picture. I need to see what a faggot who writes edgelord shit like this looks like. Just crop out your face.

>>131656398
"Manipulating" is not done here. In order for me to manipulate you I would have to use arguments or coercion to obtain my results. Just telling you to neck yourself and giving you the instructions on how to do it, and telling you to do it every time you reach to me is not manipulation.

>>131637325

She will probably get a light sentence but that is irrelevant because she didn't do anything wrong.

>>131637325
>texts are illegal

>>131637325
Yeah man, have you read the text message exchanges before he gassed himself - she encouraged him to kill himself, even at the end when he was having second thoughts, she kept coaching him to do.

She is guilty.

>>131656398
she didnt spend months manipulating him. She, her truest highest self, at some point, likely would have wanted nothing more than to stop talking to him at all, to wish she never met him, to wish he never existed. He made himself a burden onto her.

He told her he wanted to kill himself, multiple times. He said he did not want to seek help. Did he have the power to seek help? Was he only faking it to get her attention? Is she guilty for believing a liar?

How easily could she have contacted authorities? Very easily, very very easily? Is she wicked for not doing so? Was she right in thinking if she did so her friend would have been very mad? Was she right to avoid the essence of that bad vibes of ratting your friend out?

>>131656487
So there is barely any punish if you are provoked? Then it sounds kind of good

>>131656580
>I want to see this testament to willpower you are.
I want to understand what the fuck this sentence means and why posting a pic of myself on 4chan would mean anything.

>>131656755
> Just telling you to neck yourself and giving you the instructions on how to do it, and telling you to do it every time you reach to me is not manipulation.

You haven't read the text messages, have you?

>>131647813
this comment with your flag..

>>131637517

Funny how the prosecution doesn't talk about how for 2 years she tried to get him help. How would you react if someone bitched at you for years that they want to die?

>>131656755
Agree with the text thing and teens crying on the web for being "bullied"

>>131656907
>why posting a pic of myself on 4chan would mean anything.
Post a body shot with at time stamp, don't worry about the rest.

>>131637325
Judges like this need to be drawn and quartered in the public square

>>131656971
shouldn't it be the defense that brings that up? why would a prosecutor do the job of his opponent? are you a retard?

>>131637325
It's wrong. The fact that the guy was severely depressed and suicidal gives me a 'little' more sympathy for the ruling, but not much.

I mean if it was a child that she convinced to kill itself I would be a more convinced, but this was a grown man for god's sake (or close enough).

If suicide is illegal, I think you could get her on aiding and abetting (and even that should only happen if not reporting a crime is illegal in that state). That's about it.

>>131656914
Yeah I did. Tell me exactly on which text she "manipulate" him into offing himself.

>>131637761

Those of us defending her are the ones who don't won't to get arrested for shit posting online. That's what will happen next once trials like hers continue to happen.

>>131656794
Nope, not possible. She will get the same sentence as a Armed Robber.

>>131637517
contents of the messages are irrelevant

what is the crime here?

you want to open that legal can of worms

kys (just kidding!)

>>131637325
The only shame here is that he didn't kill her before he offed himself.

>>131637325
>1 post by this ID
>300+ replies

STOP BUMPING THIS SHIT

>>131656548
I am certain I want to kill myself, I am too weak and scared to turn myself in to get help, I contact my friend over a period of time and ask them to help me kill myself. I convince them I am absolutely serious multiple times. I convince them multiple times many multiple times I am absolutely serious and cannot live anymore. I essentially beg them to be a good friend the best friend they can be and help me kill myself. I tell them not to try to seek help for me. Be a good true friend and trust me, do not seek help for me, I do not want it, help me kill myself. they help me. I kill myself. I get exactly what I wanted. My good friend gets their life ruined, practically I committed their suicide for them too. I am completely in the wrong for putting that kind of pressure on a very young adult. I am guilty for not turning myself in and making it seem as if they should feel extremely guilty for turning me in. Case closed. She is innocent. Let her learn her lesson, and live her deserved life. NOW.

>>131657045
I still fail to see what this would achieve anon. I think you're just trying to make this about me rather than the issue at hand.

>>131657156
>I think your parents know you're in a really bad place. Im not saying they want you to do it, but I honestly feel like they can accept it. They know there's nothing they can do, they've tried helping, everyone's tried. But there's a point that comes where there isn't anything anyone can do to save you, not even yourself, and you've hit that point and I think your parents know you've hit that point. You said you're mom saw a suicide thing on your computer and she didn't say anything. I think she knows it's on your mind and she's prepared for it
>encouraging
>reassuring

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_manipulation

>>131640688
>harassing someone for multiple years to kill themselves

or you could just you know, stop? go away and do something else other than emotionally abusing someone who believes you really love them? JUST A THOUGHT

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>>131657322
>This

>>131657176

20 years is the max she can get but the judge can literally give what he wants, (just not over the max). A jury can say you deserve X amount but the judge can change it at his discretion.

>>131657463
so should every verbally abusive spouse should be charged with a crime?

if not what is your fucking point?

>>131657156
Lol she told him "not to back out of this like he does everything in his life". She went above and beyond to see he actually went through with it. No sympathy for either of these dead ends.

>>131656837
Nope, it was a conditioned response. We she told him not to Kill himself she got negative feedback. When you told him to kill himself she got positive reward.

She was a mentally ill 17 year old and this was the best she could do for a boyfriend.

If the prosecutor was not a member of the family this would never have been brought. Judge stacked it by giving her a shit lawyer who did not know how to try a case in front of a jury.

Her words did not make the kid suicidal, most likely it was the beating and possible rape by his father.

>>131657398
>I still fail to see what this would achieve anon.
It would reconfirm that edgelords like you look as expected. There is no more argument coming from you. It's all just absurdities and the response the average teen would give. If you're not going to do it then fuck off and stop responding, retard.

>>131657107

The defense did bring it up. What I meant (and should have said) is that the wannabe prosecutors that are attacking her fail to mention all of the evidence.

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>>131657165
>shitposting anonymously is the same as telling a suicidal person to kill themselves

>>131650541

>he has no concept of masculinity

It's time to get off 4chins, faggot.

>>131657322
Ask me if I'm upset that someone this susceptible to propaganda and emotional manipulation lost their right to vote for liberal, socialist policy. If you are on the outside of this case, you can't lose.

>>131657667
Verbally abusive =/= months of manipulation to commit a crime, knowledge said crime is being committed and failing to response appropriately, and actively encouraging said crime.

>>131657542
Anon, you could be right. But the Liberal judges in this state or so bad I think they have to follow sentencing guidelines.

>>131637325
and your thought your hairline was bad!

>>131639997
holy balls rare, and nearly quints. Wtf is this wizardry.

>>131657667
>so should every verbally abusive spouse should be charged with a crime?
Yeah, its like telling a retarded child there is a piece of candy in the middle of a busy intersection. Stop being an edgy white knight she knew exactly what she was doing.

>>131657877

Nice bait, Nigger.

Half the people you shitpost to are edgy emo faggots who probably want to die so at some point you probably have told a suicidal person to kill themselves. (Don't pretend you haven't)

>>131658138
Let me add
>yeah, if they kill themselves

>>131638864
lol you seem like a bigger piece of shit than the women you're complaining about

>>131657759
>It's all just absurdities and the response the average teen would give
Please feel free to counter my absurdities. Tell me why someone should go to jail for manslaughter for simply saying things. Tell me why she should be responsible for his decisions. Do you not like having agency over your own actions?

>>131658138
>retarded child
>same thing as an adult capable of independent thought
moron

>>131658158
>Half the people you shitpost to are edgy emo faggots who probably want to die so at some point you probably have told a suicidal person to kill themselves. (Don't pretend you haven't)
Nice projection, are you going to have an argument any time soon?

>>131641321
>siding with a hole instead of a fellow man
Wtf is wrong with you?

>>131657919
Justice is the foundation. Upholding justice is more important than 1 vote. You are unjust, emotional, and manipulative if you think a person losing 20 years of their life (and not even caring about the true debates thereof) is worth 1 out of hundreds of millions of votes.

>>131641811
Nah, that's exactly the type of person who needs their life ruined. Lock the evil bitch up and throw away the key.

>>131658417

You are deflecting.

>>131658417
>>131658521

It's clear you have nothing.

>>131657463
As a defense lawyer I could pass that as a rationalization by her part brought due to her past psychiatric history. It's still not convincingly coercive.

>>131637325
That's a very limited understanding of what happened.

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>>131656941
>>131647813
The fag is right you know.
>>131657463
>>131657672
How is doing that a bad thing?
1. Nothing of value was lost.
2. She actually did him a favor and helped him end his miserable existence. He is the one that profitted the most.

>>131658521
No Im not. Explain to me how spamming a guy's phone saying he should do it isn't grounds for her taking some responsibility?

She didn't kill him. Simple as that. She should be sued by the parents for lots of money but dindu nuffin rong

>>131642574
>implying she can't just walk
I didn't realize the bitch was chained to this guy and couldn't just leave

>>131658716

I was about to say that she didn't kill him nor make him die but this guy said it first.

>>131658734

>>131658574
a this point she just didnt want to deal with him bother her anymore. At these points what do you suggest she should have done: show the texts to his parents and a mental institution?

She did not do that, because he suggested that would be worse than death. It is attempting to be claimed that she is guilty of believing him, she is guilty of trusting him.

If she could go back, what should she have done?

>>131637325
if she did this to a black guy she would go free

>>131658585
The Prosecutor could not find a psychiatric expert in the entire country that was willing to testify that she caused the suicide.

The only expert to testify said she was delusion and did not cause the suicide.

The Judge ignored the evidence and did want was trendy. How is that justice?

>>131639345
If you support a woman just because she's le qt XD then you're a beta cuck yourself. Also, get a better taste in women, faggot.

>>131658462
If you were trying to side with the man in this case, then you should support her not going to jail. He wanted to kill himself, he wouldn't want her going to jail for him killing himself.

>>131640979

If you read the case, you will see that the law agreed with the defense in the case of free speech.

However, the reason she was found guilty was for instructing him back into the car when he was becoming delirious. They determined that at that point she was giving instructions to someone who wasn't of sound consciousness.

All the shit leading up to the event was considered free speech. The act of coaxing him back into the car when he was already fucked up was considered a crime.

>>131658900
If she did it to a black guy then antifa and BLM would have chimped out and burnt things until she got life.

>>131658792
>I didn't realize the bitch was chained to this guy and couldn't just leave
she was guilty of being too kind, too good of a friend? What are the odds if she dropped all contact with him he would have killed himself right then and there? that one of his closest friends in his most needed time just dropped all contact?

>>131637325
This is bait I can't believe this thread is on its way to 300

>>131658821
You obviously have zero perspective on someone who is suffering from depression or some other disorder. They are some of the most vulnerable people alove, and she obviously knew it. If she said it in one text fine, but what she did is harassment and that is a crime.

>>131658734
If the parents sue they would have alot of questions to answer. Numerous public information on how many times the Police were called to the home. The Dad liked to talk with his fist.

>>131638864
>Gi suck your dad off bitch. Im no virgin, have a kid Ive only seen 3 times in my life I'm stuck paying for.
Nigger confirmed

>>131637325
>Hate Drumpf
>Seriously considering suicide ever since he's been elected
GONAD DUMPF IS GOING DOWN. If there are any sane people left here on /pol/, let's kill ourselves; Drumpf has pretty much forced our hand.
Who's with me?
tl;dr:
>We kill ourselves because Trump
>Trump is impeached because he forced people to commit suicide
>Hillary wins in 2020, so our sacrifice isn't in vain

>>131637325
>solid 7 goes to prison
OP is only mad because he's thirsty.

>>131658466
>Justice is the foundation
Stop being an armchair philosopher and go learn something about how theory is applied in the real world.

t. doesn't know the location of my county courthouse

>>131658878
It's not what she could have done. She didn't had any legal responsability to do jackshit. Morally or ethically? Maybe, but the again what about his parents? Shouldn't they also be guilty of not paying his suicidal son more attention? Why are they not going to jail?

>>131637325
Yeah seriously
> I don't deny that the girl is a psychopath
> I don't deny that women are evil
> I don't deny that women get a "pussy pass" in the court system

But saying WORDS, no matter what, is never coercion. Nobody should be punished for words -- unconditionally!

>>131658574
>As a defense lawyer I could pass that as a rationalization
That's great, her defense attorney lost. More importantly she was convicted because she told him to get back in the truck, and rightfully so.

>>131659308
>Shouldn't they also be guilty of not paying his suicidal son more attention? Why are they not going to jail?
Did they tell him to get back in the truck?

>>131659106

I can't wear short sleeve shirts because I slashed both arms because I thought someone was after me and dying was the only way to escape.

Funny part about my story though is that it was literally just my dog scratching on my door that caused it. Good times.

>>131637600
Sounds like she was wanting it.

>>131659308
>Why are they not going to jail?
Because they don't have evidence of them giving him instructions to kill himself?

>>131659027
>However, the reason she was found guilty was for instructing him back into the car when he was becoming delirious. They determined that at that point she was giving instructions to someone who wasn't of sound consciousness.
This changes my opinion on this I think. I don't know if it's worth manslaughter but it is a crime.

>>131659361
>>131659503
>because she told him to get back in the truck
Suddenly you now have a valid point to argue rather than muh manipulation.

>>131659136
Isn't this how transpeople obtain rights in the first place?

>let's kill ourselves in mass because nobody wants to call me a chick even tho I have a dick.
>Instant rights.

>>131659516
>>131659106

She thought that after years of him bitching that he couldn't be helped so she decided to help him with what he wanted.

>>131659516
Were you on drugs at the time. I was sitting in a mcdonalds one day and this drugged out guy started talking to me about how he was seeing demons.

>>131659104
its an interesting topic, what threads are you mad are not being clicked?

>>131659100
This is some next level bad logic right here
>she told him to kill himself for weeks until he finally did it but only because he would have killed himself if she left him

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>>131641321
lol this reminds me of some /b/ suicide threads
>just do it faggot

Honestly we don't know the full story. Maybe this cunt spend a whole year trying to cope with this faggot and telling him to get help, then just finally gave up with his whiny shit.

Then again I can never think like a woman, who knows.

>>131658995
Fuck that this cunt used her manipulative bitch abilities to help him kill himself. Watch the damn case you lazy idiot

>>131659704

The only drugs I take are my Paxil and Xanax that they put me on after the incident. I wasn't on anything at the time.

>>131659220
t.not a supplier of arguments

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>>131659136
>tfw I can see some variation of that shit actually happening in your braindead countries.

>>131659704
>>131659822

I thought that the people after me was using my dog to lure me out.

>>131659777
He always wanted to kill himself.

>>131659537
Well they have evidence of them being negligent on not noticing the cues that their son was depressed.

>>131659503
So the manipulation case drops and everything goes to shit. The real reason she's guilty, is because she admitted that she told him in a call to get back to the carbon monoxide full truck that he knew was gonna kill him. She shouldn't be arrested, she should be the fucking Major General of the Army.

>>131657667
Sorry anon but he pretty much got you with his last argument.

>>131659746
>she told him to kill himself for weeks until he finally did it but only because he would have killed himself if she left him

*he told her for years he wanted to kill himself, who knows in his own head what he really wanted or how serious he was, she says for years, are you sure you want to kill yourself, you should get help, you should get help, you should get help.. no I want to kill myself I want to kill myself I want to kill myself... ok, I trust you, you seem serious and persistent

>>131659892
Your fortune cookie dictum isn't an argument, nor has it ever manifested itself in our world.

>>131637325
>kys faggot
is she, dare I say, /our/ girl?

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>>131659777
Good. fucking. riddance.

If the worthless faggot was prone to her persuasion whatever the fuck that persuation was he should have indeed killed himself and the girl did the right thing.

it's actually the end result itself - he killing himself in the end that absolves her entirely.

>I want to kill my kms my self
>hurrrrrrrr

>>131659027
this makes sense. I know that people have gotten themselves into trouble by making mentally retarded people do things.

>>131637770
t. white knight virgin

>>131659746
No right on point. Most normal people blow off a high school friend who keeps going on and on about committing suicide.

She tried for 2 years to convince him to get help and then finally, after years of bitching, she decided to help him.

I wish I had a qt gf that tried to help me and convince me that I needed help back before I tried to off myself.

>>131660136
>The real reason she's guilty, is because she admitted that she told him in a call to get back to the carbon monoxide full truck that he knew was gonna kill him.

In his texts, how many times did he say he wanted to kill himself, and that nothing will help?

he initiated the event, when he actually got in the car to prepared to do it to begin with

When he got out of the car is it known how much time he was in there? Imagine if he stayed in the car 30 seconds longer would have killed him, but he got out to text her, and say 'now I dont know, I think I want to live my whole life now without bothering you anymore to be suicidal', is it known after he got out to text her, how much time passed after he got back in until he died. Imagine her losing 20 years of her life over what could have been a span of 30 seconds.

>>131660262
Back to my original point, nothing was keeping her there she could have left at any time. If he killed himself over that she wouldn't have been liable.

>>131637325
she didn't actually get sentenced yet

kill yourself you trolling piece of shit

>>131660735
Even if he deserved it she still should go to prison.

>>131659537
No, the evidence points to the beating and possible ass raping by the Dad.

Anon, I know for you that would be pleasurable, but for the rest of us, those living conditions would make us suicidal.

>>131660482
I think she is innocent because he put all the pressure on her. Her life would have been 100000% better if she never met him. He would have been suicidal, according to all evidence, if he never met her.

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>>131659027
So somehow he had the cognitive ability to get out from a carbon monoxide truck, reach to his pocket and dial her number (or touch it on the screen I guess?) But not the cognitive ability to decide not to return to the truck he climb off from?

Yeah, I see something in the family of this kid.