China is developing Orwellian surveillance and merit system.

>>131374083
One of the chief architects of the system is Lian Weiliang, deputy head of the National Development and Reform Commission.

Lian says fraud is becoming far too common in society and something needs to be done. Last year, 4.9 million people were stopped from taking flights and 1.65 million banned from trains because they had defaulted on debts.

The scope of the system is immense. In Shenzhen, thousands of unpaid parking tickets have been logged, while the People’s Daily reports that people who abuse the popular new bike-sharing schemes will see their credit rating affected.

So far, so Big Brother. There are parallels to an episode of the British science fiction Black Mirror TV show, where a woman lives in a dystopia in which people rate other’s popularity out of five stars. But while the planned mass surveillance system smacks of George Orwell orchestrated by the Men in Black, the government insists it is less sinister than it appears

>>131374083
>Orwellian surveillance and merit system
Doesn't surprise me that a Pole would view a system designed to measure trustworthiness this way.

>>131374205
“The creditworthy will be granted conveniences in education, employment and opening start-ups, while severe wrongdoing will be made public,” run directives from the State Council.

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>>131374254
good joke and all, but the system is legit scary.
it uses gamification to seem harmless but is basically an exile system.
your score gives you benefits (at first, when the system is in place for long enough and there is no going back benefits will become necessities) for example you will only get premission to leave the country if you have at least average/upper average good-person-points. so dissent wont be so loud.
also if your credit score is affected negatively the credit score of your friends, family and other people you are linked with will also be affected a little. so showing the least bit of dissent will make you a pariah very quickly, because people dont want to be dragged down by a deadbeat conspiracy cook - especially in fucking china

fun fact: the company developing this new good-person-credit game owns leauge of legends

>>131374083
>nuked before it goes live
w/e chinks

>>131374882
Too bad 95% of china is almost as bad as Africa. All chinks are going to do is genocide themselves. Hopefully they take out some niggers and poos with them.

>>131374083
1st the great wall of internet that prevent most chinese to survey other website.
now the good boy system,
pretty sure it will all end up well.

>>131374882

China is not much culturally different than North Korea. USA government will probably use similar systems too but maybe for slighly different reasons.

>>131375020
>Too bad 95% of china is almost as bad as Africa. All chinks are going to do is genocide themselves. Hopefully they take out some niggers and poos with them.

Or flood flood other continents with their
humungous numbers.. Maybe its's good thing that chinks are scared of muslims in west europe.

>>131375059
three letter agencies already do it im sure, but it isnt public knowledge

>>131375059
>them.

The US version will be called the "upstanding patriot" edition and will be shilled hard here

>>131374882
>good-person-points
So it's a little like good-boy-points and tendies?

>>131374083
as long as it doesn-t get exported to us, fuck whatever happens to those idiots.

>>131374083
I would agree to this only if it is completely fair and equal to all. No more politicians/rich making up bullshit to dodge responsibility or no more idiot judges giving muslims/women lighter punishments because "muh culture/patriarchy".

But it won't. When it gets implemented here in the UK, and it will get implemented here in the UK because people are stupid and our government loves Orwell's ideas, it will be used only to punish those who disagree with the government/left and not actually for justice or equality.

>>131375205
Yeah but this is different.

>“The creditworthy will be granted conveniences in education, employment and opening start-ups, while severe wrongdoing will be made public,” run directives from the State Council.

This suggests the unworthy won't have conveniances of education and employment, or at least limited.

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>>131375490
aside fromstuff you post on social media it will monitor what you spend your money on as well.
if you buy stuff related to building a family your score will increase, if you buy stuff for pleasure like vidio games for example, your score will decrease.

china is fucked anyway. read up on organ harvesting of falun gong practitioners.
chinks are fucked in the head man.

>>131374882

We just made Good boy points a reality. I would have thought you guys would be on board with it.

>>131376310
>vidio games
Yellow niggers are literally only good at that and polluting tho.

>>131376310
>aside fromstuff you post on social media it will monitor what you spend your money on as well.if you buy stuff related to building a family your score will increase, if you buy stuff for pleasure like vidio games for example, your score will decrease.

How do you know such details? It's not out yet.


>china is fucked anyway. read up on organ harvesting of falun gong practitioners.
chinks are fucked in the head man.

Basically much bigger North Korea with state worship instead of personality worship.

>>131376518
>video games
>Yellow niggers are literally only good at that and polluting tho.

Only japs not chinks.

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>>131376651
>state worship instead of personality worship

?? ??

>>131376413
> I would have thought you guys would be on board with it.

Oh they will be in 3-5 years when it's re-packaged with liberal flavor. It's only scary to them because the target audience of the scheme is Chinese people, not Europeans. When the European variant of this comes out, you better believe they're going to eat it the fuck up.

>Finally, we can use our police resources on things besides tracking racists!
>We need to get those nazis behind bars. We should discourage nazism on the internet.

>>131374083
I would rather live in a psuedo-commie, nationalistic Orwellion China than the psuedo-commie Orwellion multicultural England desu. We aren't much different to these guys but at least they have a homogeneous community.

>>131376413
>We just made Good boy points a reality. I would have thought you guys would be on board with it.

Living a meme.

>>131374882
Essentially this is good boy points on a national scale?

>>131376413
Yeah, totally, can't wait to collect my good goy points

>>131376821
>homogeneous community.
Yeah only because the filthy Han genocided everyone around them.

>>131376651
its been leaked for over one or two years now.
usually that subject does not get much attenton here tho

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It's ok. There will be a war in the South China Sea soon and the commie government in China will collapse after they get raped.

>>131376765
>implying chinks don't hate that guy these days
>>131376865
Yep, that sucks. I really meant in a racial way rather than specific ethnicities. Hopefully cultures will return to China in time.

>>131376849
Yes

>>131376906
No they won't be China and USA annouced military cooperation like two days ago.

>>131374083
Gee. yeah. Great idea. Let's put more restrictions on 1.6 billion people.

The more you try to contain something, the bigger it will burst. China is a ticking time bomb.

Can't wait until China collapses and 800 million chinks kill and eat each other.

>>131376860
Underrated

This is just going to drive the black market deeper
And its going to make rooting out corruption harder.

Why do they need such an orwellian system?
>Car insurence premiums become lower if you are a safe driver
>Lower insurence premiums if you stay healthy and dont use it that much.
>Business promotions and dividndends when business is in high demand, or you get success at work
>Medals for doing heroic deeds for your country
>Decent benefits for military service
>Credit rating still deoendant on how you pay back loans
>Felons cant own guns, or vote

Why does this need to be orewellian,
And how will this "social currency" do anything different than what we are doing now?

>>131377139
Yea and hundreds of milions of dog-eaters will flood europe then.

>>131374254
You are charged with level 2 racist wrongthink. Three ration units deducted

>>131374083
Femdom is the birth ground of feminism the more you know.

>>131377246
>>131377246
You aren't going to get your tendies if the state says so.

>>131374083

Psycho Pass is becoming reality?

>>131377442
huh?

>>131374083
>Communist country behaves like Communists
Surprise, surprise

>>131377443
Is that any different to the way things are now?

Doesnt the usda subsidize shit?

>>131377246
Because the libshit governments we have will be in charge of it and their race replacement agenda will go into overdrive and "demonetize"/destroy any of those ebyll right wingers that are preventing their utopia

>>131374083
>developing Orwellian surveillance
>vladtheimplier.jpeg
Are you aware of this country we call China,or do you think it's an island off the coast of Chile?

>>131377538
pretty much except the potential criminals and wrongthinkers wont be employed by the state to catch worse psychos, they will just be left by family and friends because they dont want to be dragged down. and then they´ll wither away in a 1room 5m2 apartment/ an hero/ get their organs harvested

>>131374342
Actually, it's interesting what will come of this attempt to scale a prehistoric reciprocity-based trust enforcement to billion counts using modern technology. One thing missing though is killing off the bottom 10% sociopaths.

>>131377722
You're just replacing currency with policy

I fail to see a difference between what china is proposing and soft drink taxes, affirmative action, and social security.

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Can I exchange my good boy points for the credit?

>>131374083

Do they bonus points when they mow people down?

>>131377853
see >>131374882
there is definitely plenty in place to kill off the bottom 10%

>>131377442
>Femdom is the birth ground of feminism the more you know.

Explain.

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>tfw the mark of the beast finally reveals itself

>>131378244
BDSM is the normalfags first steps into degeneracy.

>>131378656
Why?

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>>131374083

>The Chinese government has introduced a data-driven social credit system to force its citizens to be honest and trustworthy, ranking them by good or bad behaviour, with performance-related rewards and punishment.

>>131378673
because you are mentally ill if you want women to rule over you? It goes against everything natural.

>>131378829
I agree with this but not with
>>131378656
this
most bdsm couples have a Mf dynamic, not mF

>>131378829
>It goes against everything natural.
Why?

>>131377246
>he didn't read the instruction manual
after a certain large amount of repressiveness/ surveillance/ control, increasing it more decreases corruption

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>>131376781
>When the European variant of this comes out, you better believe they're going to eat it the fuck up
well i had a conversation with fellow germans that where ok with limiting and controlling speech because they feared "the moon landing is a hoax" conspiracys.
no fringe and extreme shit like holocaust denial.
fucking moonlanding and ayy lmao conspiracys.

the german generation that is now about 50 years old is the worst regarding liberal gutmensch brainwashing.
german politics can only turn in another direction when this generation dies off. ironically, when this generation dies off germany will hardly be german anymore, because they are the average german.

we´re beyond fucked

>>131378947
I know but it shows they a missing something wholesome that they need to do that tho. They are addicted to the chemicals in their brain and trying to get a bigger kick out of them. It is a stretch but they are no different than druggies.

>>131378829

What if you like to torture women instead?

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So that's why they made policies that shipped all of American manufacturering to china. They weaken the US while strengthing their their massive Chinese slave race.

>>131376781
In Germany we already have a similiar system, consisting of two parts, the Führungszeugnis, which contains every "crime" (including small things like being drunk inpublic) and the Schuldfähigkeitsausweis (Schufa) which includes information on every loan you've ever taken (such as wether you baid them back in time, how big they were etc.).

While most people don't even notice how often those documents are checked, they can damage your life quite a bit.

For example, a friend of mine was once caught with brass knuckles (which he claims to have found just shortly earlier), and even now ten years later he has still trouble getting a good job because his Führungszeugnis contains a line stating that he was convicted for illegal possesion of forbiden weapons.
There are also cases where people had their drivers licenses revoked because they had once been in contact with organized criminals and "could be expected to use their vehicles to commit crimes".

>>131379687
>So that's why they made policies that shipped all of American manufacturering to china. They weaken the US while strengthing their their massive Chinese slave race.

Who kikes?

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>>131377369
Kek

>>131379997
Yes. The elites/bankers/illuminati/reptile whatever the hell they are.

>>131379734
Well this system doesn't apply to refugees as they can commit as many crimes as they want in Germany and nobody i doing anybthing to them.

>>131376880
I wonder why that is, (((Germany)))...

>>131377139
this

china will consume itself

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>>131379108
>when this generation dies off germany will hardly be german anymore
This day just can't come soon enough

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>>131380204
what are you implying
i´m 100% kraut. i eat bratwurst and all that i swear

>>131374083
Sounds awesome

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>>131377369
lel

I seriously don't think they will implement it fully though. This shit is scary as fuck and it will serve as an example for our own societies. They day of the walls are coming, and we are going to be outside the walled cities.

>>131374083
A rewarding system > punishing system

Seems fine. China since old time had an social elevator system rewarding education, culture, skill regardless of origin. You can exclude yourself from this system, but you`ll lose out.

Want to be successful at life? Study harder than the rest and excel at exams, have good social behaviour, persuit a linear upwards progression with clear goals and achivements.

For gigantically huge society with limited resoures and perspectives - the best deserve the best, and a clear path and requirements to become best motivate others to try harder - both in study, work and social aspect.

EU and UK eventually will do the same going full 1984

>Sorry goy! It's the law. We must shut you down for hate speech

EU is enforcing new antisemitic laws. (1st june 2017)

>Calls on the Member States to encourage the media to promote respect for all faiths and appreciation of diversity, as well as training for journalists concerning all forms of anti-Semitism, in order to address possible bias;


>Calls on those Member States where there has as yet been no invocation of motives based on race, national or ethnic origin or religion or belief as constituting an aggravating factor in a criminal offence to remedy this as quickly as possible, and to act to have the Council Framework Decision on combating certain forms and expressions of racism and xenophobia by means of criminal law fully and properly implemented and enforced, so as to ensure that anti-Semitic acts are prosecuted by the Member States’ authorities in the online as well as in the offline environment;
___________
http://archive.is/s4GF8

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>>131380886
B-b-b-ut we live in modern democracy, we will vote right people in and they will make sure that we are on the right side of the wall, r-r-right?

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>Calls on the Member States, regarding the Code of Conduct agreed between the Commission and leading IT companies, to urge online intermediaries and social media platforms to take expeditious action to prevent and combat anti-Semitic hate speech online;

>Highlights that schools offer a unique opportunity to transmit the values of tolerance and respect, since they reach out to all children from an early age;

>Encourages the Member States to promote the teaching of the Holocaust (the Shoah) in schools and to ensure that teachers are adequately trained for this task and equipped to address diversity in the classroom; also encourages the Member States to consider reviewing school textbooks to ensure that Jewish history and contemporary Jewish life are presented in a comprehensive and balanced way and that all forms of anti-Semitism are avoided;

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>>131381209
It will be pretty dystopic but at least the air will be clear, you will know who is who and who you're dealing with, there'll be no more excuses. Bet it'll be comfy for psycho-autismo fucks like us.

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>Calls on the Commission to closely liaise with international actors such as UNESCO, the OSCE and the Council of Europe, as well as other international partners, in order to combat anti-Semitism at international level;

> Insists on the need to provide enforcement authorities with targeted training on combating hate crime and discrimination, and on the need to set up dedicated anti-hate crime units in police forces where such units do not yet already exist, and calls on EU agencies and international organisations to assist Member States in providing such training;
>anti-hate crime units in police forces
>anti-hate crime units
>anti-hate crime units

>>131381110
>A rewarding system > punishing system
It's both rewarding and punishing in this case.

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>>131374083
>ywn smash that

>>131381346
Do you have more Happy Merchant+Wojak or Happy Merchant+Pepe memes?

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>>131381599
its not like crime spiked and we would need a police trained to combat and prevent terrorist attacks.
i mean look at this wageslave who never was able to leave the country for vacation venting his anger and frustration on facebook. hes really dangerous and probably a reichsbürger as well

>>131382101
>reichsbürger
What's that.

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>>131380611
I'm implying that implementing a Chinese Orwellian Good Goy Social Tracking System is Mutti's wet dream.

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>>131382068

Is this jealousy /pol/ is having that they don't have such a system to fix their countries

>>131382413
people that believe germany is not a sovereign nation because the BRD was a substitute implantet by the allies until germany would be ready to stand on its own feet and institute its own set of laws again.
they usually think they can avoid taxes because of that.

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>>131382068

that's all i got

Facebook knock off. Cuckenberg must be furious.

>>131374205
>who abuse the popular new bike-sharing schemes will see their credit rating affected.
???

This is already sort of a reality. If you're employed in the PRC and your employer leaves a bad "review" of you on the government database then you're pretty much fucked trying to find another job.

>>131383049
>they usually think they can avoid taxes because of that.
How?

>>131374083
I give it about 5 minutes after launch before the first person bribes himself into a better score.

>>131374882
lel, not gonna work.
I know the chinese, they are corrupt as fuck.

They'll prob code bots that praise the government for good boy points and they'll build fake reputation trade networks

>>131374083
Is China turning the world into an MMO ?

Why is this a bad thing, people are just unhappy all the time because of the invisible jews over them, this credit system at least give a meaning to their lives so they can spend all their days collecting good boy points.
This also lowers crime rate and makes the government immortal

>>131374083
At least it is not a skynet.

>>131379734

The Chinese one sounds far more reaching. Looking at your spending habits and shit in order to discern if you're a good citizen. Who knows what else they might look at.

>>131383480
because they think the BRD is a scam and the reich is still intact
its a subject that gets overblown by the media tho. reichsbürger are the typical "look its a conspiracy nutjob" boo-man

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Black Mirror covered this already

This is legit scary

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>>131383532
>5 minutes
You germans always work by certain patterns, don't you

>>131374083
sauce?

>>131374083
>Citizen ranking system
And NSA is in uproar since they have all the patents regarding spying on your own citizens.

It was bad when China were stealing jobs in electronics and car manufacture, but it's really bad when they're stealing Secret-Deep-State principles.

>>131374083
Nuke the gook

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Just like in my Falllout New Vegas Karma Ranking

>>131374083
So fucking what?

Germany is worse, because China at least doesn't pretend.

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>>131374083
>>131375059
>>131375461

>upstanding patriot

More like "diverse feminist"

"upstanding patriot" implies love for a country and a will to serve it. Last I heard on the global media, the USA was a Misogynistic, Homophobic, Islamophobic, White Privileged racist nation...

If a system like the one in china is to be implemented on the US, it'll be the SJWs that will control it.

Get ready to become "Vilified" as soon as your in it, once they spot you browsing on 4chan.

>>131379108
why do you spread this pasta? What is the joke behind it?

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>>131383532
this

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>>131384884
kek

>>131382101
The political system in Germany failed. It gives incentives to politicians to fuck over the people without any lashback.
Fuck we can even only vote for halve our legislative body and then still we cannot decide who is actually on their lists
We cannot vote for any executive or judical person.
Our democracy is a scam and politicians have to start dying, so they start respecting the people again.

>>131376860
it is called money

>>131387318
not saying everything is honkydory and reichsbürger have legitimate grounds to stand on. however the media picks up the nuttiest of them, if not actors, to point them out.
also everything that could somewhat be related to conspracys is associated with le ebin reichsbürger meme

>>131374083
It's actually not a bad idea. The government legit fears the people. Revolution is a real possibility in China. So the government can't do too much stuff to piss of the majority of the people. If they implement a game like system which can be controlled, they can fuck over only some people and keep the majority happy and therefore prevent an uprising.
But it has the typical shortfalls of forced communism systems:
Will you have only happy people when you kill those who are unhappy?

>>131387069

Hear the new Nickelback?

>>131377246
>"social currency" do anything different than what we are doing now?
it centralizes it.
If you shit on my table I will not invite you again is a free market principle.
The state controllign the shitters and deciding which amount of shitting gets you banned from places is a state system.

But i actually beliece that they introduce it to try to reduce corruption, because that's a real problem there and the other way to combat it would risk the power of teh one party so it's not an option

How does this work? Is it a chip they plant on you, that they can scan and update at any moment when you pass thru detector? Or how?

>>131378244
>>131377541
Bolan seems to be interested in the naughty stuff

>>131376310

Falung Gong are the muslims of buddhism. Who carer if those sub humans get butchered

>>131382624
I wouldn't even be surprised anymore.
They stopped giving a shit. AFD and LINKE and 5% rule suck up all possibility for a change

>>131388032
chinks have a hational id system, which is present in almost all forms of services, like education, health care, transportation through train or airplane, you name it.
This is basically getting the whole country actinng like a big bank and start credit rating everyone.

>>131374083
Can I exchange them for tendies ?

>>131374083
>http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/asia-pacific/china-builds-glorious-trustworthiness-with-new-social-credit-system-1.3133028


I really don't give a shit as long as it doesn't come into America.

We might have to liberalize Chinese Insectoids in 30 years Afghan Style.

>>131388262
Only a German 9/11 could possibly shift these winds. What do you think, Hans?

>>131388571
so, time to contact the jews again?

>>131388665
Won't be difficult to get in touch with some Jews in (((Germany))). Get Schultz on the job.

>>131388571
Politicians have to start dying or protests which fuck up the economy. Voting won't change anything.

Only halve people have to be present in parliament for it to decide on stuff.
If there are therefore more opposition than government partie members for a controversial vote in Bundestag, guess what happens?
Fucking opposition leaves the room so their rest can vote against it but have the law still pass. They are just fucking actors the lot of them.

>>131383576
chink here, actual true af.
Just hop on a wow server and boom the mining business never ends

>>131388849
>888
You know what to do.

But I do feel like you're right that fucking up the economy would do it, another 2008-esque crash will change everything.

>>131383324
They steal the bikes

>>131380886
They don't plan on doing this overnight though, they will start slowly, easing the population into this and if this gets positive results, why would the west not try to make their own versions?

>>131380886
>This shit is scary as fuck and it will serve as an example for our own societies.
ABSOLUTLY TRUE
The government saw the surveillance the CIA/NSA are doing illegally and thought
>we also want that, but legally

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>>131374083
Why the fuck does my country keep doing this shit? Things are supposed to get better, not worse, but it seems that making things worse is all that the economic development is good for.

>>131390475
>Why the fuck does my country keep doing this shit? Things are supposed to get better, not worse, but it seems that making things worse is all that the economic development is good for.
Welcome to our world

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>>131374083
>Hurr durr Chinese are souless automatons with zero trustworthiness *post that stale, old copypasta about the fag buying steel to the shadiest merchants possible and predictably getting ripped off*
>Goverment does something to fix that
>Hurr durr Orwellian
Well then

>>131390856
I get your point, but why would you use that flag while posting it?

>>131390475
Considering the """West"" has been on a downward path for freedom for a while
I won't bet on China going the other way anytime soon
>eventually you'll hear "at least we're not at londonistan levels of censorship" as an argument

>>131378716
>He doesn't know how to use the three shells

>>131383836

>when a government introduces an online system and all that can be said is "well...at least it's not Skynet"

I don't have a DoomPaul.jpg, but considering the direction the world seems to be moving in, I should have a 10gb folder

>>131390975
Sometimes I like to play devil's advocate. What gets me is the hypocrisy, not so much my personal opinion on the subject.

>>131383702
Lol based senpai

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this sesame credit shit will be coming to america a lot sooner than you think, and with it will come the thousand year reign of technofascism

all the money will be managed by ai, and all the people will be managed by their phones, it will be a perfect world where human error is all but eliminated

ty chinks

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>>131374083
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBYBSX-lNsI

China.... Orwells Nightmare....

>>131392231
>where human error is eliminated
Then we cease to be human.

>>131374882
>good-person-points
>not good-boy-points

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>>131386577
In the US google or some other private company will do it and they'll be able to do an end-run around the constitution that way. Then if you complain about it every idiot on the internet will dipshitsplain to you about how it's doesn't technically violate the first amendment because the government isn't doing it and blah blah blah blah that_one_insufferable_xkcd_comic.jpg

>>131374083
psychopathic ant-people need this desu