How old were you when you became an ancap and when did you grow

yeah about the same for me

I can't think back on my days believing in the ancap/libertarian nonsense without cringing


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb8cErokGFs

In my defense it was pretty much the only acceptable "non leftist" ideology to have in the 90s/00s. You were never even supposed to mention race until like 2012

>>131320346
I'm not fully ancap, that's retarded.
but i am fully capitalist in a minarchy.
the state isn't allowed to intervene, it's there to enforce contracts

>>131320346
>realize stefan never figured out how the roads would work

A small government could easily pay contractors to build roads on less than 10% of peoples incomes.

There, now you know how libertarians build roads.

>>131321085
>A small government
Do you even know what anarcho capitalism means

I think anarcho capitalism is the overall over head system but its rules wouldn't be implemented in every aspect, such as roads... who's going to build a road and charge people for it? people are just going to come together a create it cause its in their all common interests if needed, just general infrastructural improvement. I'm still hesitant claiming a title but whats wrong with anarcho capitalism? free market, and freedom, who couldn't love that?

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>>131321085
Molly doesn't(didn't?) believe in ANY government, I can guarantee you about that.


>>131321002
ancaps think minarchists are idiots

>the state isn't allowed to intervene, it's there to enforce contracts

You realize enforcing contracts and deciding laws is a form of intervention right?

As long as there is a state there will be intervention. That's why minarchism is pointless

But ancapism is even more pointless as it just replaces a real government with warlordism/feudalism

>>131321181
Yeah, it's what stupid people call libertarians so they can strawman them.

>>131321285
Ancapism is foundationally nonsensical

How do you enforce property rights without a geographical monopoly on the use of force. You can't, it's impossible. The second you make a claim on property rights you have essentially named yourself king of a certain geographical area.

>>131321591
libertarians argue from an ancap position that "all government is bad"

If you conceded that some government can be good, it's hard to remain a libertarians.

>>131320346

I'm only a moderate ancap.

I just like the flag.

>>131320346
become ancap early 2015 (age 26), influenced by Molyeux. prior to this i was a self identified libertarian (not anarchist) for several years.

i still consider myself an an-cap or minarchism. these ideologies still seem to make more sense than others.

>>131321932
You're moderately autistic

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>>131322128

Show me a libertarian that isn't.

Autastic Mustard Race

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>2009 or 2010
>in highschool
>into libertarianism, mostly youtube libertarians
>have severe depression and anxiety issues
>look up "self psychology" stuff on youtube and other places
>come across a molyneux video on psychology and self-knowledge and start listening to multiple podcasts daily
>discover confederal socialist/fringe elements on youtube and become an ancap

>2012
>though redpilled on race years prior thanks to fringe elements, I began to realize its true significance on society
>realize that race mattered more than economics because bad economic policy can be reversed in time while separating from a low IQ brown population is extremely difficult
>and white socialist countries would be vastly superior to an ancap society full of blacks or mexicans
>become disillusioned with stef because he didn't comment much on race and his videos on psychology seemed less grounded the more I understood the heritability of psychological traits
>eschew ancap-ism and now hold quasi-libertarian beliefs on overall regulation while supporting some protectionist policies and immigration control

>2013 or 2014
>notice Stef started making videos on race
>over the months and years his opinions become more "extreme"

>2017
>stef fully acknowledges the importance of race and has explicitly stated multiple times that a free society he envisions is only possible with whites, in part because of their philosophical history and in part because of genetics

Love Stefan. I'm glad he saw the evidence on racial differences and changed his mind.

>>131320346
You can just tell by looking at his eyes that he has a serious mental illness.

Anarachy-capitalism / libertarianism are both idealism, like communism. It makes sense and it has good points, but it will never work in the real world.

>>131323478
Yeah, it all starts and ends with race and no political system can be materialized without whites because whites are the only race capable of organizing on a level enough to build a system.

Became ancap in 2012.

In 2015, realized ancapitalism will work best in ethnically homogeneous regions with private borders and defense sectors where necessary.

>>131325030

How about all Chinese civilizations (>>>Europe for most of history), Indian civilizations, any of the great African empires, like the Mali Empire with the wealthiest guy ever, Mansa Musa?

>>131323478
>stef fully acknowledges the importance of race and has explicitly stated multiple times that a free society he envisions is only possible with whites
When and where? I think you're projecting

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>became AnCap in 2014
>enjoyed Larken Rose and those types of guys
>became pretty good at debating, didn't really go on /pol/ much though
>2016
>friend sends me a white nationalist pamphlet as a joke
>really shitty sources, but I felt like there was more to it
>did research and actually became a white nationalist
>slowly became more authoritarian once I realized race mattered and the Holocaust didn't happen
>here I am, a NatSoc

Glad the AnCap and Libertarian ideologies from the early 2010s have evolved into what we consider the Alt-Lite, because that's just a gateway drug to farther right ideologies

>>131327297
On his channel but I don't remember the videos. I think you're projecting.

>>131327538
>I think you're projecting.
I used to. Then i saw the way he mildly attached himself to gamergate and then trump, and realized he plays this tightrope game, latching onto things that will increase his audience, without tacitly endorsing them from first principles.

He's a shill. Even if you love everything he says, it's pretty transparent he lost some integrity since the first wave of attacks came his way for being a defoo-promoting cultist.

>>131328122
Oh sure I don't care about any pointless irrelevant shit like that.

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>>131320346
Pre migrant crisis Stefan is hilarious to look at. Just look how naive he looks. Life comes at you fast.

>>131320346

If you ever let Molymeme influence your anarchy, you're a total douche.

His arguments are shit tier. You should have paid attention in school and learned how to do proper research.

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>>131327298

JIDF pls go

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>>131320346
ONE
SOMETHING'S GOTTA GIVE

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>>131328498
I FUCKED IT UP ALREADY

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REDOOO

ONE
NOTHING WRONG WITH ME

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>>131328613
TWO
NOTHING WRONG WITH ME

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>>131328671
THREE
NOTHING WRONG WITH ME

>>131328555
LET THE ARGUMENTS HIT THE FOOOR

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>>131328739
FOUR
NOTHING WRONG WITH ME

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>>131328764
ONE
SOMETHING'S GOTTA GIVE

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>>131328809
TWO
SOMETHING'S GOTTA GIVE

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>>131328850
THREE
SOMETHING'S GOTTA GIVE

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>>131328906
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

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>>131328937
LET THE BODIES HIT THE FLOOR

>>131328480
Kys kike shill, /pol/ was always a natsoc board. All you fucking meme flags are kikes trying to subvert the board.

>>131320346

I wonder how we'll build cars without government? oh wait, free market does that.

I wonder how we'll grow and distribute food without government? oh wait, free market does that.

But roads?!? HOW WILL WE EVER DO THAT WITHOUT GOVERNMENT!

Op is fucking retarded.

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>>131328972
LET THE BODIES HIT THE FLOOR

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>>131329036
I too love systems of some downs

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>>131329036
LET THE BODIES HIT THE FLOOR

>>131328498
>>131328555
>>131328613
>>131328671
>>131328739
>>131328764
>>131328809
>>131328850
>>131328906
>>131328937
>>131328972
>>131329036
He's back

The (You)'s (You) deserve

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>>131329110
LET THE BODIES HIT THE.................

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>>131329157
FLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

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>>131329036
holy autism

>>131321932
>moderate ancap

>>131329218
>>131329157
>>131329110
>>131329036
>>131328972
>>131328937
>>131328906
>>131328850
>>131328809
>>131328764
>>131328739
>>131328671
>>131328613
kek

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>>131328976
>kike shill,

accurate meme is accurate

>/pol/ was always a natsoc board

Cool historical revisionism, bro.

>>131320346
why cant a company build roads with toll booths?

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>>131320346
>When your view of reality and method of being is based on a bald man and roads

>>131320346
Hey, this is Stefan Molyneux with Free Domain Radio. Ask me anything :)

>>131326916

You're not trying to imply zipperheads and niggers have ever formed a society where the common man benefits, right?

>>131332495
How do the roads work?

>>131332495
Was it worth selling out to the alt-right to maintain a living after your attempt to build a libertarian cult failed? Are you happy with that decision?

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>>131333114
he's an ancap of course selling out was the right move
6d chess

>>131333114
>alt right
the who?

>>131333245
>36924577537ddc08b96bde9ca(...).jpg (
>255x232
lol

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>>131333357
>he doesn't know what cripplechan is
cute

>>131333549
le eightgag gang
roffle ecks

>>131331219
They fag up the road with slow downs. they tend to only work on bridges and bottle necks too.

It is pretty simple. You JUST pay for roads and the necessary items. Maybe even so that anything that isn't a main artery is not included.

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>>131333699
g-g-good one, anon :DD

>>131321002
LOL! Who funds the court system and police that are required to enforce "contracts"? How do you fund them without taxation?

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Freaking fags

>>131320346
>High school
>why can't people just take care of themselves lol
>graduate
>go to college
>immediately have a breakdown because of all sorts of shit I'd repressed and ignored as long as possible
>end up on government aid for a few years while I got it sorted out and right again

turns out needing to use the safety net helps you tend to realize it's... useful?

>be me in 2009-2012
>browse several imageboards like the late /new/ of ____chon and /int/ of KC
libertarian but we shared space with nazi's

>be me 2013
>just browse 4chan
now im pro-whatever gives a better future for white people everywhere

>>131320346
ancap on 4chan is the mirror image of college commies on reddit. they are almost identical when you draw them out of their little caves

>>131323478

>white socialist countries would be vastly superior to an ancap society full of blacks or mexicans

What? The intelligence required to understand austrian economics would preclude the vast majority of blacks from creating an ancap society in the first place. If such a society existed, it would be as of a result of a congregation of high IQ blacks.

So saying a white socialist society would be better than a black ancap society makes no sense. A white socialist society would be a nightmarish shithole like any other socialist society.

>>131336810
>What? Blacks are so stupid that your hypothetical couldn't exist
OK.

>>131336963

Well no that's not true. It could exist, not likely, but not entirely improbable either.

If there were some sort anarchist movement, you'd likely see a mix of things. Initially you'd see a bunch of ethnocentric city states with a few cosmopolitan trade hub city states, and over time some truly anarchist regions made up of polycentric legal systems would show up.

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>>131320346
>be teenager
>abusive dad
>become a loner
>watch molymeme
>tell my dad hes violating the NAP when he beats me
>kicks me out of the house
>"Doesn't matter, the free market will want my skills!"
>turns out no ones hiring a mediocre photoshop editor
>go on welfare
>section 8 housing
>shitposting on cuckpol one night
>find Hitler speeches
>get inspired
>get a job moving boxes, better than nothing
>get enough money for a gym member ship
>I get a raise + promotion to inventory manager
>eventually get my own apt

Here I am now, fuck my dad and fuck Ancaps

>>131339200
>It could exist, not likely, but not entirely improbable either.
Oh, so blacks are capable of forming an ancap society, and an ancap society doesn't have to subscribe to your arbitrary rules about the NAP or whatever bullshit you want to pull out of your ass.

So then I would still prefer a socialist white shit hole to a black shithole without a government.

>>131320346
I always knew ancap was bullshit because it was the state of things that led to the feudal era.

>>131341371

What you say doesn't follow what I've said coherently. Every reply you've made so far is a non-sequitur. You bore me.

>>131342554
yes, please continue your pointless responses that are entirely irrelevant to my original point that smart whites create better societies than stupid niggers.

>>131339636
>Tell my Dad hes violating the NAP when he beats me
How could one be so naive?

>>131342937

Your original post you said you think a white socialist nation would be worse than a black ancap society.

This is patently absurd, as morality flows downhill from IQ . You were just trying to dog whistle to your fellow bootlickers.

>>131343753

*better

>>131339636
Lol, that has nothing to do with Anarcho-Capitalism. You're just an innept fag. Get a real job faggot.

>>131329218
kek I love this shit

thank you anon

>>131343753
>as morality flows downhill from IQ
Not just IQ. There are other factors as well such as the big 5 personality traits. I'd sooner expect a typically envisioned ancap society from anglos than I would the chinese despite the chinese having a higher average IQ.

Your initial response was basically just semantics by rigidly defining "ancap" in a way that most wouldn't (in the spirit of "B-but Russia wasn't REALLY communist" - OK, but that's not really the point), but then you only strengthen my point by claiming blacks are too stupid to get rid of their government and respect "muh property rights". I'd sacrifice muh liberty for more government and more white people any day. And if most people thought about it they would too.
Blacks are too stupid to understand Rothbard? Wow, such insight!

>You were just trying to dog whistle to your fellow bootlickers.
Yes, a bootlicker after those years I disliked him for stressing his UPB nonsense while ignoring the most important issue - race.

My god I have to remember to stop responding to ancap nonsense. White nationalism is much more likely to come about than their stateless utopia.

>>131320346
I still am one if I'm being idealist. Need a massive culling to make it work though. Freedom of association and natural law is certainly superior to bullshit appeal to popularity and thus tyranny of the majority that are on the strings of those who control them.

>>131320346
ancap is the only reality in the economy of our contemporary world.

>>131345360

> Your initial response was basically just semantics by rigidly defining "ancap"

The whole point of austrian economics is to prove that there is an explicit and rigid definition of what constitutes a free society.

> in the spirit of "B-but Russia wasn't REALLY communist

The reason commies are guilty of the "no true scotsman" fallacy and ancaps aren't is because communism is founded on the arbitrary distinction of "private property vs. personal property". This distinction is not argued from any kind of first principles like ancaps derive their ideas from the first principle of self ownership.

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>>131320346
stop with these threads